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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>App Reminder Friday, we're going to be live at Bravery

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<v Speaker 2>Brewing up in Lancaster for our latest news and Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, our first one of twenty twenty five. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can believe that they are going to be introducing

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<v Speaker 2>Kfipa this year's edition of it. That's a great beer

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<v Speaker 2>that they have brewed for us that I had a

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<v Speaker 2>little hand in helping create. The Bravery Pizza Kitchen will

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<v Speaker 2>be open and they'll be serving some great pizzas there

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<v Speaker 2>that are award winning. We have some stuff that we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be giving away. Bravery has some stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be giving away. And then after the

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<v Speaker 2>show at one o'clock, we're going to actually record this

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<v Speaker 2>week's edition of the Gas Weekend Fix, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>segment that does not appear on the air for good

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<v Speaker 2>reason because some of the things that Shannon says. But

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<v Speaker 2>we will be recording it in front of the live audience.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be out there, so we would love

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<v Speaker 2>it if you come on out. A great way to

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<v Speaker 2>start off the Memorial Day weekend. Not only that it

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<v Speaker 2>is a great way to to spend a Friday, the

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<v Speaker 2>weather is going to be absolutely gorgeous. I just finished

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<v Speaker 2>up that Terror in the Sky segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Gary, I was just listening to you tell the

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<v Speaker 3>story about the love in the air, and my father

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<v Speaker 3>and mother actually met that way.

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<v Speaker 4>My father was chartering a flight and.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a flight attendant.

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<v Speaker 5>He saw her on that first flight, and then he

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<v Speaker 5>told his friend he ran the airline, please put that

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<v Speaker 5>Greek lady on the next flight that I charter.

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<v Speaker 6>And he said there's two, and he said, put them

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<v Speaker 6>both on.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was happily ever after.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, three more kids. That's a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Next segment, by the way, we're going to talk more

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<v Speaker 2>about the study that came out that said the teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>of any age thirteen nineteen whatever it is, teenagers of

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<v Speaker 2>any age who drink alcohol with their parents' permission do

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<v Speaker 2>drink more as young adults. Not an entirely groundbreaking study,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was curious about what experience you had, did

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<v Speaker 2>you drink with parents' permission and what impact did it have,

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<v Speaker 2>if any, on your attitude towards alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>That's coming up in just a couple of minutes. What

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<v Speaker 4>else is going on? Time for what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the larger stories nationwide is that President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is telling House Republicans on Capitol Field, Capitol Hill that is,

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<v Speaker 2>to drop their fight over his next big tax cuts bill.

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<v Speaker 2>He spoke privately to members of the House Republican caucus

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<v Speaker 2>today to try to get them to vote in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of his multi trillion dollar package. There are some people

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<v Speaker 2>who are arguing about the state and local tax deductions.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to raise that limit. Others are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>cuts to Medicare. So it's not a guarantee that this

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<v Speaker 2>I think this thing passes, and that's why he was

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<v Speaker 2>there today. Heat wave is coming to southern California. Expectation

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<v Speaker 2>today as we could see highs closer to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>degrees one hundred and three possibly Wednesday and Thursday. But

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<v Speaker 2>as of right now, much of the Sanford Nando Valley,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got the west end of the Santa Monica,

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<v Speaker 2>Western Santa Monica Mountains wreck Area, the eastern Santa Monica

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<v Speaker 2>Mountains wreck Area, Calabasas, Goura Hills under the heat warning,

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<v Speaker 2>now the heat advisory, and that'll be up through Thursday evening.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of other places are going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>heat advisory starting tomorrow because, like I said, that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>when it is going to get the hottest. More tornadoes

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<v Speaker 2>ripped through the central part of the country yesterday, ripped

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<v Speaker 2>apart buildings, knocked out power to people from Texas all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to Kentucky. At least four tornadoes confirmed in

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and Nebraska last night, according to a report from

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<v Speaker 2>the National Weather Service, Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Your water may smell funny, but LA Department of Water

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<v Speaker 2>and Power says it's not harmful if you're in the valley.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a puple people, a handful of people that

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<v Speaker 2>were complaining that the smell of their water changed. That

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<v Speaker 2>it is an earthy odor and they, according to the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Water and Power or the customers regarding the

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<v Speaker 2>smell were commenting on the smell. Sorry, and they began testing.

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<v Speaker 2>What revealed the musty odor is attributa attributable to geosman.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen that word before, so your guess as

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<v Speaker 2>good as mine as to how to pronounce it. The

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<v Speaker 2>official said, it's a natural compound that's created from algae,

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<v Speaker 2>an occasional seasonal occurrence caused by changing water temperatures and sunlight.

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<v Speaker 2>The elevated Geosman levels were detected on May thirteenths They

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<v Speaker 2>immediate thirteenth. They immediately adjusted treatment and operations to control

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<v Speaker 4>You can remove the odor at.

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<v Speaker 2>Home by running your water through a carbon filter pitcher

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<v Speaker 2>or a carbon filter in your refrigerator waterline. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is not harmful, according to LA Department of Water and

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<v Speaker 2>Power and the American Chemical Society. It said if it

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<v Speaker 2>is highly concentrated, it could cause serious damage, eye damage,

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<v Speaker 2>your irritation, but for the most part, it is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to hurt you. Handful of sad stories. Number one

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<v Speaker 2>was that cal State Fullerton student ended up dead after

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<v Speaker 2>a fraternity trip to Lake Havasu. Eighteen year old out

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<v Speaker 2>of Panol went under the water and did not resurface.

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<v Speaker 2>On Saturday, search cruise up in Big Bear found the

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<v Speaker 2>body of a twenty two year old student from UC

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Barbara who disappeared over the big over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>In Big Bear Lake. They found him about ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in the water near Pine Not Marina. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the twenty one year old sheriff's deputy off

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<v Speaker 2>duty sheriff's deputy who was killed in a car accident

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<v Speaker 2>just yesterday afternoon up in the Santa Clarita area off

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<v Speaker 2>of San Franciscito Canyon Road. You remember Hana Kobayashi. She

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<v Speaker 2>disappeared after she landed at Lax last fall and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of prompted a whole series of theories about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to this woman. And then as her family went came,

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<v Speaker 2>i should say, came to search for her, was found

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<v Speaker 2>dead in a parking lot after he came to Lax,

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<v Speaker 2>came to La to find her, and had killed himself.

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<v Speaker 2>In an Instagram story she shared over the weekend, she

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<v Speaker 2>explained that she wants to share the details of her

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<v Speaker 2>disappearance soon, saying she wants to stand up against any

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<v Speaker 2>ill will that has been cast against her as a

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<v Speaker 2>result of that, I'm not sure anybody remembers who Hanna

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<v Speaker 2>Kobayashi is or would want an explanation from her. Dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of people detained yesterday after police uncovered what they described

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<v Speaker 2>as an underground casino in the Van Eyes area. It

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<v Speaker 2>started as a response to possible burglary. The discovery about

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<v Speaker 2>three am on Monday morning, an alarm coming from a

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<v Speaker 2>building in the area. They spotted a person they were

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<v Speaker 2>one particular building, they found evidence of a secret gambling ring.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've picked up several people detained in connection and.

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<v Speaker 4>Said it was little kid games.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to Chuck E Cheese or Shakey's Pizza, then

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<v Speaker 2>they have some of these games in there. Melissa Cruz,

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<v Speaker 2>one of those people detained, said she didn't consider it

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<v Speaker 2>gambling and likened the operation as more of a game

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<v Speaker 2>club for adults.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's see where that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>In for a Weenie race, the Wiener mobiles are going

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<v Speaker 2>to compete at the inaugural Weeni five hundred at the

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<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Each regional Wiener mobile will represent one

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<v Speaker 2>of six regional hot dogs. The Chai Dog for Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>Shy Dog representing the Midwest, the New York Dog East Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>the Slaw Dog the Southeast, the Sonoran Dog representing the Southwest,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chili Dog representing the South, and the Seattle Dog

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<v Speaker 2>representing the Northwest. They're all identical wienermobiles, just with different

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and names on them. They said that it will

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<v Speaker 2>be the first race for the entire Wiener mobile fleet

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<v Speaker 2>and the first time that all six of the vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>gather over the last decade. Set for Friday at two

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<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern Time, streamed live on the Fox Sports app.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we're live at our news and Bruise, we

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<v Speaker 2>can have some I guess Wiener Race news when we're there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Up next, a little bit more about this

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<v Speaker 2>study teenagers of any age who drink alcohol with their

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<v Speaker 2>parents' permission and how that changes their attitudes towards.

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<v Speaker 4>Alcohol in the future. We'll hear from you when we

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<v Speaker 4>come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>New study really was driven by questionnaires, but this study

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<v Speaker 2>looked at whether or not drinking before you're legally allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to has an impact on your attitude towards drinking early

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<v Speaker 2>in a adulthood. The journal Addictive Behaviors published this study,

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<v Speaker 2>and the topics include a history of child and parent

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol abuse, beliefs about alcohol, rules about alcohol in your home,

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<v Speaker 2>and The questionnaires ask adolescents if they ever drank alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>with their parents' permission, even just you know, the sip.

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<v Speaker 2>The taste kind of thing, and if yes, at what

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<v Speaker 2>age did they first do so? And then the researchers

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<v Speaker 2>looked at those answers and compared them to the self

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<v Speaker 2>described alcohol practices I guess you could say, when they

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<v Speaker 2>were young adults, and if it came out to impact

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<v Speaker 2>how these people treated alcohol in their early adulthood. And

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<v Speaker 2>what they said was drinking with parental permission began anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>from age five to age seventeen, and just some of

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<v Speaker 2>the talkbacks that we've gotten very similar age range, but

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<v Speaker 2>that right around twelve was probably the most typical. And

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty percent of the people who responded that said

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<v Speaker 2>they had some alcohol with parental permission. It's higher than

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<v Speaker 2>a higher number than in some other studies, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in that range. And they said that adolescents were

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<v Speaker 2>more likely in young adulthood to drink more often and

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<v Speaker 2>in greater amounts if their families allowed the practice, compared

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<v Speaker 2>to those who did not, who are very strict and

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<v Speaker 2>said no alcohol at any cost.

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<v Speaker 4>Until you're twenty one years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to ask what your experience was, how

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<v Speaker 2>did your family handle alcohol when you were a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>or how do you handle it for your team.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Gary, my dad served the four of us alcohol

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<v Speaker 7>from the time we were about five years old on

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<v Speaker 7>whatever if we wanted any never withheld it from us.

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<v Speaker 7>We're now all age sixty six to seventy five and

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<v Speaker 7>none of us have any alcohol problem. We can take

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<v Speaker 7>it or leave it, and we typically have maybe one

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<v Speaker 7>drink a month each. That's that's the Italian way.

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<v Speaker 8>I've got six kids and I've always let them taste

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<v Speaker 8>alcoholic beverages. We've never been big alcohol drinkers in my household,

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<v Speaker 8>they disliked the taste of alcohol, and that's the reason

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<v Speaker 8>I let them try it, so that they don't like it,

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<v Speaker 8>so then as they grew older they don't care for it.

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<v Speaker 8>At least that's been my experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the taste is not the thing I'm concerned about.

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<v Speaker 4>The taste.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can mask the taste of whichever alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>much your brain craves it after you have it that

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Gary Son, Shannon so my father allowed me to

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<v Speaker 3>drink with him when I was young. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>But in all fairness, my father was an alcoholic, and

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<v Speaker 2>probably eight, nine, ten something like that, And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that awful taste of the That was the worst soda

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<v Speaker 5>My parents would have a cocktail when my dad got

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<v Speaker 5>which is a sweet sherry. We always got to taste it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I grew up.

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<v Speaker 5>Alcohol just wasn't a big deal until I started partying

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<v Speaker 2>least from the people who called us, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>drinks were there or available to them, but later on

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<v Speaker 9>Young teenager Will in high school, my father served us

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<v Speaker 9>a high ball after the game, which was on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 9>My uncle would come over with his family, and my

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<v Speaker 9>and I were senior and junior. And when my aunt

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<v Speaker 4>What goes into a high ball? It's a I know

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<v Speaker 4>it's a type of drink, but there's a larger person.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so the seven and seven Scotch and soda, gin

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<v Speaker 2>and tonic a screwdriver. So it's the alcohol based spirit

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<v Speaker 2>and a larger proportion of a non alcoholic mixer. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the general definition. Never knew that specifically I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't see anything wrong with letting your kids drink before

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<v Speaker 4>Just a little something at dinner time on a Sunday

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<v Speaker 4>is okay. My parents did it. I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye Gary, Bye, thank you for the call.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Gary, love you guys. Let's shot too.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I love.

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<v Speaker 6>One of my children drink as a teenager. She grew

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<v Speaker 6>up to be alcoholic. I didn't drink as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 6>My parents didn't allow me, or just allow me. I

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<v Speaker 6>just never drink, which I did not let my kids

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<v Speaker 6>smoke weed till they were eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's good. You didn't let your kids smoke

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<v Speaker 10>My parents were teetotalers, so they never drank around them.

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<v Speaker 10>But my family friends had a hotel where I worked

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<v Speaker 10>as a dishwasher, and they allowed me to drink wine

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<v Speaker 10>out of little paper cups at work and the occasional

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<v Speaker 10>Narragansett beer, and it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Lewis and Port, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to revisit this issue tomorrow because I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>about parenting stuff on Wednesdays. And this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>it is the issue of alcohol when you have teenage kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's of course right in the middle of it

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<v Speaker 2>personal with Justin So we'll do that tomorrow at eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>So stick around up next our True Crime Tuesday. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things. The whole crypto world is something that

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<v Speaker 2>is worthy of its own movies lately, it seems, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's getting pretty violent. Our True Crime Tuesday is

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<v Speaker 2>the rattling of the crypto bros and the crypto elite

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<v Speaker 2>with all of this physical violence that's going back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth between them. We'll talk about that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis and Scott Adams, the creator

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dilbert comic strip, came out yesterday and revealed

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<v Speaker 2>that he has also been diagnosed with prostate cancer, just

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<v Speaker 2>like Joe Biden, but that he says his prognosis is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty dire.

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<v Speaker 4>In a live stream.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday, Scott Adams, at sixty seven, said he had also

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<v Speaker 2>been diagnosed with prostate cancer that has spread to his bone.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, my life expectancy is maybe this summer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I expect to be checking out from this domain sometime

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<v Speaker 2>in the next few months. I do think that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a potential positive that comes out of this story,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the theories about when Biden knew about it,

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<v Speaker 2>whether there was a cover up, if this is an

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive this is one of those This is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those stories that can drive simple public awareness of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went back and checked out my own health

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<v Speaker 2>records for blood tests that I had a few years

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<v Speaker 2>ago regarding PSA numbers, just because I didn't remember, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's nice to have a quick baseline on all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. We will revisit the story tomorrow of teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>of any age who drink alcohol and what kind of

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<v Speaker 11>What's going on, Gary flying fish out here at the airport.

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<v Speaker 11>My father loved that Olympia and me and my little brother.

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<v Speaker 11>He would give us a little taste.

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<v Speaker 4>But Olympia beard alcohol.

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<v Speaker 11>Didn't really phase us and we never became alcoholics. What

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<v Speaker 11>the trip was it was the gateway to the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>We used to party on the other stuff because the

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<v Speaker 11>alcohol made us feel so good, and of course everything

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<v Speaker 11>was there. But I'm cleaning sober to this very day,

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<v Speaker 11>coming up on four years loving it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Fish, Yeah, good luck to you. That's We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk more about it tomorrow. So if you had

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<v Speaker 2>an experience, we'd love to hear about it. You can

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<v Speaker 2>leave us a talkback message on the iHeart app. Just

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<v Speaker 2>hit that little microphone button and leave us a quick message,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Fish did.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's time for our True Crime Tuesday. The story

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<v Speaker 4>is true? Sound true?

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<v Speaker 10>No, it sounds made up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon present True Crime.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a really weird world that exists that you

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<v Speaker 2>and I probably don't know very much about, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>those people in the very high echelons in the world

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<v Speaker 2>of crypto. And as difficult as it is for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people to just simply understand what crypto trading is,

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<v Speaker 2>how anybody can make money at it, how it has

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<v Speaker 2>survived as long as it has, this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>add a tiny bit of probably fear to that keeping

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<v Speaker 2>people away from crypto. The Wall Street journalish the story

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<v Speaker 2>about the ransom that exists, ransom cases that exist in cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 2>and that there have been greater and greater incursions of safety,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess threats to safety in that very elite crypto world.

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<v Speaker 2>Three men in black masks jump a thirty four year

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<v Speaker 2>old woman in Paris. Her father runs Paymium, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a cryptocurrency exchange based in France. They had canisters, a mace,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a gun. They tried to force this woman

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<v Speaker 2>and her baby into an idling van disguised as a

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<v Speaker 2>delivery truck. Her husband was there was able to throw

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<v Speaker 2>himself between his family and the attackers. A neighbor was

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<v Speaker 2>able to grab the child and get it to safety.

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<v Speaker 2>The other neighbors were closing in. Shopkeeper shows up to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a fire extinguisher. The kidnappers I should say would

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<v Speaker 2>be kidnappers, jump into their van and they speed off.

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<v Speaker 2>The latest in a wave of violent criminal attacks and

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<v Speaker 2>potential abductions around the world, including some here in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, that target these crypto executives and sometimes their families.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Victims have been pistol whipped, some of them have been kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 2>In at least two cases, their fingers have been severed again.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like this is going to be a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is to get millions of dollars in ransom

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<v Speaker 2>in cryptocurrency. These are sometimes called wrench attacks like the

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<v Speaker 2>Tool simply because they rely on very simple tools for

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<v Speaker 2>inflicting pain to coerce their victims. Very old school mafia

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<v Speaker 2>sound to it. Hacking used to be the biggest risk.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's still a big risk for crypto people.

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<v Speaker 2>But to thwart those hackers, cryptocurrency investors take their digital

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<v Speaker 4>It makes some more.

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<v Speaker 2>Making it remote and offline makes it harder for somebody

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<v Speaker 2>crypto crime is what bypasses those safeguards. A bitcoin security

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<v Speaker 2>company called Kasa, the co founder says a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are getting to the hide your gold under the

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<v Speaker 2>mattress level of security. But if you're a high profile person,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you have to worry about the physical attack.

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<v Speaker 2>A cryptocurrency exchange. Just this week, Coinbase disclosed that as

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<v Speaker 2>many as ninety seven thousand people had their personal information stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>including addresses. The company said it was likely stolen by

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<v Speaker 2>bribed contractors or employees that worked in their customer support

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<v Speaker 2>and that it had refused a twenty million dollar ransom demand.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen that with you know, hospitals, municipalities, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody will hack into a system and basically hold it

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<v Speaker 2>pays the ransom to free up that computer system. Cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 2>has also surged over the course of the last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Bitcoin alone. Bitcoin is up fifty four percent in the

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<v Speaker 2>last year, so there are people making millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on all of this. At least five crypto related abductions

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<v Speaker 2>dozens of others around the world in the last year.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, in Australia, a crypto billionaire was almost kidnapped

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<v Speaker 2>whilst vacationing in Estonia. He was able to fight off

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<v Speaker 2>the attackers posing as painters. In March, a crypto influencer

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<v Speaker 2>out of Houston was assaulted before her husband got into

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<v Speaker 2>a shootout with the bad guys who invaded their home

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night demanding her laptop. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the assaults been clumsy, some of them messy. But

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is there are now organized crime rings that

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing this as a major profit potential. And once

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<v Speaker 2>you get a little bit more sophistication behind some of

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<v Speaker 2>these abduction attacks, you're going to see people go away

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and I mean disappear. In September,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a Florida man who was sentenced to forty

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<v Speaker 2>that carried out a string of home invasion across home

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<v Speaker 2>invasion robberies in multiple states in search specifically of crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>In one of the attacks, he held a gun to

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<v Speaker 2>the head of a guy in Durham, North Carolina, threatened

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<v Speaker 2>to cut off his his junk. The victim eventually was

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<v Speaker 2>victims as part of his sentencing. Just last week, the

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<v Speaker 2>Interior Minister in France gathered a bunch of crypto companies

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<v Speaker 2>for a meeting to try to present new security measures

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<v Speaker 2>for that sector. They said the attack that attempted kidnapping

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<v Speaker 2>from last week appeared similar to other recent abductions in France,

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<v Speaker 2>in which they said these ringleaders are recruiting a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of young criminals they never meet, using apps like Telegram

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<v Speaker 2>and signal, and then remotely controlling them to execute their plan. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>the French Interior Ministry says that these are probably linked.

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<v Speaker 2>At least some of these, like I said, have been

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<v Speaker 2>successful in terms of the abductions, and definitely the physical

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<v Speaker 2>assaults have been successful, with some people losing their fingers

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<v Speaker 2>over this whole crypto thing. We'll come back, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Fred and Rose West. Unless you're British, you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard this story yet, but there is a new book

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<v Speaker 2>out about Fred and Rose West. Its subtitle is a

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<v Speaker 2>British horror Story to Mary serial Killers out of Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a very American thing. I'm surprised that it happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Britain. We'll tell you about Fred and Rose when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the midst of True Crime Tuesday and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the craziest true crime stories that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen over the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got to tell you. This is one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>The story behind Fred and Rose West a British horror story.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it was a book. I meant to say

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<v Speaker 2>that it was actually a Netflix documentary that has come

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<v Speaker 2>out and it's a series. And I will say now,

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<v Speaker 2>based on the story, it is not for public consumption,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least not general family watching.

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<v Speaker 4>Shall we say?

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<v Speaker 2>This documentary ends with a judge sentencing Rose West to

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<v Speaker 2>life in prison. She was married to Fred West and

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen sixty nine, Friend was twenty seven years old,

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<v Speaker 2>Rose was only fifteen. The power dynamic in that gives

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<v Speaker 2>you an idea of how this relationship started. He controlled

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<v Speaker 2>every aspect of her life and he pimped her out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not setting a great table for the relationship going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>They had several kids together, at least ten, and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing starts with I mentioned that the documentary ends

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<v Speaker 2>with her being sentenced to life in prison. It starts

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<v Speaker 2>with police discovering the remains of one of their daughters

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<v Speaker 2>in their home. There was this kind of weird and

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable everybody thought it was a joke at the time

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<v Speaker 2>that would go between several of the children, which was

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<v Speaker 2>if you misbehave, you'll end up under the patio like Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>and friends of theirs heard the kids say that joke

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<v Speaker 2>to each other and never thought anything about it because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't know there was a Heather until her body

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<v Speaker 2>was found, like I said, under the patio. She had

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<v Speaker 2>been missing since nineteen eighty seven, and in the years

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<v Speaker 2>after she disappeared, the stories about where she ended up changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Parents would tell the different stories. It was February of

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four that her remains were found underneath the patio

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<v Speaker 2>of the rear garden of their home. Fred was arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred admitted that he killed the daughter in interviews with

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<v Speaker 2>police there in Gloucester, but that was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>last murders that he committed. Fred was accused of starting

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<v Speaker 2>way back in nineteen sixty seven, killing at least twelve

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<v Speaker 2>young women. And remember that was about the time that

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<v Speaker 2>he was starting to get this relationship with Rose. He

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<v Speaker 2>was again killing a dozen women. Rose was convicted of

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<v Speaker 2>ten of the murders. The date back to the early seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>The documentary reveals also the story of Alison Chambers, who

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<v Speaker 2>had run away from home. In the series, her sister

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<v Speaker 2>Desra reads a letter from nineteen seventy nine that her

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<v Speaker 2>mother received from Alison saying that she was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be living with this great new couple Fred and Rose

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<v Speaker 2>and looking after their children, acting sort of as a nanny.

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<v Speaker 2>A few months later, she goes missing and her remains

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<v Speaker 2>are found at the house there in Gloucester. The series

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<v Speaker 2>does not actually center on the living kids because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them are not on speaking terms with each

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<v Speaker 2>other today. There's a lot of blame that goes back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth between them. The eldest son, a guy named Steven, says,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't speak to my siblings. There are no large,

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<v Speaker 2>happy family get togethers. Too much has gone on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably too painful for us. Phil Davis, is the husband

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<v Speaker 2>of an older sister, explained every few years the case

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<v Speaker 2>is back in the media, like now with this new documentary,

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<v Speaker 2>the public public gets interested again. But it's the kids

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<v Speaker 2>who live with the pain of what happened on a

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<v Speaker 2>daily basis, and in the series it's the relatives of

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<v Speaker 2>the family. It's that second concentric circle who gets the

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<v Speaker 2>last word. Brelnda Mott, whose sister Juanita remains were found

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<v Speaker 2>in the cellar of the West House, is seen visiting

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<v Speaker 2>the sister's tombstone, and she says, this is why I

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<v Speaker 2>say to my children. Every single time I say good

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<v Speaker 2>night or goodbye, I always say I love you, because

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<v Speaker 2>you never know when it's the last time. Desra said,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about her sister, Allison, the one that was a nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>said it's cathartic. She's gotten so used to compartmentalizing all

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<v Speaker 2>of this, she says, I've never really worked through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a help to her to take part

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<v Speaker 2>in the documentary. And it's filmmaking, so again, just an

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<v Speaker 2>awful true crime story that's going to be this Netflix.

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<v Speaker 4>Fred and Rose West a British horror story.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminder that on Friday, we're going to be live at

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<v Speaker 2>our news and Bruise at Bravery Brewing in Lancaster to

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<v Speaker 2>help kick off Memorial Day weekend. We have some surprises

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<v Speaker 2>out there. We have some stuff that we're going to

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<v Speaker 10>Oh boy, it's flavored with your snarkiness. And Shannon's occasional

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<v Speaker 10>non sequiturs.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, the marketing is still out on that one,

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<v Speaker 2>but thanks for your option.

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<v Speaker 2>firing off pizza, so it's going to be a great

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for you to grab some lunch and we will

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<v Speaker 2>be recording our KFI Weekend the Gas Weekend Fix, right

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<v Speaker 2>after the show ends at one o'clock. We'll be out

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<v Speaker 2>there recording it and we need to do We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to need some audience participation in that, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>out there on Friday. Are our news and bruis at

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<v Speaker 2>Bravery Brewing in Lancaster. John Cobelt Show is up next.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you tomorrow. Stay drive. Everybody you've been listening

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<v Speaker 2>to The Gary and Shannon Show, you can always hear

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