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<v Speaker 1>Look up with come all the things on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, is you You're my favorite view?

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<v Speaker 2>But there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are back, Welcome back Bumble.

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<v Speaker 4>Today, we are doing something that we have not done

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<v Speaker 4>in a very long time. Uh and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>we've only done two or three times total since we

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<v Speaker 4>started the podcast, and we are doing a zoom call

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<v Speaker 4>with a couple who is going to treat this almost

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<v Speaker 4>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That we do couples retreats.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to tell us what's going on in their

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<v Speaker 4>lives and we're going to try to troubleshoot and help them.

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<v Speaker 4>And the couple that we have on the call's name

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<v Speaker 4>is Addie and Hobby. Anything you want to add before

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<v Speaker 4>we just jump right in because this is definitely not

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<v Speaker 4>a housekeeping moment. Okay, you guys might see us eating

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<v Speaker 4>because we're it's dinner time and I'm not ashamed to

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<v Speaker 4>eat on cameras, so you may see me eat. She's

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<v Speaker 4>looking at like maybe not yeah cause the chewing. Yeah yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>no problem.

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<v Speaker 5>We just say jack in the box.

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<v Speaker 2>So all good, nice, nice, All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you guys got going on in your

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<v Speaker 4>lives that you wanted to do the zoom call.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying it's mainly me. My husband is a

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<v Speaker 5>very hard working man who does not spend much time

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<v Speaker 5>on the internet. However, I consume your guys is content

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<v Speaker 5>like a good book repeatedly. You guys play in my

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<v Speaker 5>house on repeat most of the time. I just find

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<v Speaker 5>that I feel we struggle with not only some boundaries

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<v Speaker 5>with his parents. I feel like maybe he doesn't he

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't always stick up for me to his mother when

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<v Speaker 5>I feel he should, and not that his mother isn't great.

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<v Speaker 5>She she always goes out of her way to help us,

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<v Speaker 5>but she also tends to talk smack to us about

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<v Speaker 5>my health when I'm not doing what I'm doing, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of coming trying to come into our marriage where I

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<v Speaker 5>feel she doesn't be long. And then I also feel

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<v Speaker 5>like when I'm upset, he can't necessarily communicate how he's

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<v Speaker 5>feeling or why he's feeling that way, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>quite get the closures that I need all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you want to start with the un laws, baby,

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to hear why.

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<v Speaker 6>Husband, you agreed to the zoom call before we start

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<v Speaker 6>breaking down.

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<v Speaker 7>So basically agreed to this because one she she had

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<v Speaker 7>me do this because, yeah, I have bad communication skills

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<v Speaker 7>most of the time, especially with my emotions.

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<v Speaker 8>It's one of the reasons she wanted us to do this.

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<v Speaker 5>She asked why you agreed to do it?

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<v Speaker 8>Because I agreed for you and because I had that communication.

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<v Speaker 4>So just because of the weird cutout, he said that

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted to do this because he's not good with

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<v Speaker 4>communication and because she asked him too, and he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be there for her. It's a great answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Okay, I'm hung up on this. I can't move pastes.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not laughing because of the situation. I'm laughing

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<v Speaker 6>because of how my brain works. Hobby started answering, and

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<v Speaker 6>when we came back, you said specifically she had me

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<v Speaker 6>do this the call whatever it was going to lead into.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you followed up with you agree that you

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<v Speaker 6>have poor communication and the emotional aspect of things. And

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<v Speaker 6>then Addie jumped in and you corrected the way that

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<v Speaker 6>he was answering by re asking my question in a

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<v Speaker 6>slightly aggressive tone. I'm not saying that you did that

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<v Speaker 6>on purpose. I also, I don't know you, so that

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<v Speaker 6>could have just been you as a person, and ask

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<v Speaker 6>how I'm reading it with our first interaction, But I

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<v Speaker 6>am going to ask did it not sit right with you?

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<v Speaker 6>The way that your husband was answering that question, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Just felt like maybe he didn't maybe because me and

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<v Speaker 5>him are both like very adhd. I'm also autistic, just

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<v Speaker 5>for a little bit of background, but we tend to

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<v Speaker 5>like our short term memory is terrible. So I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe he didn't remember the exact question, So like, let

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<v Speaker 5>me make sure that he knows, because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess in my brain you can't. You can agree

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<v Speaker 5>to do something for somebody else, but the way that

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<v Speaker 5>Chris asked the question, that's not the way I interpreted it,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. So I was like, let me make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that he knows like he remembered the question.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, okay, there was no right or wrong answer

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<v Speaker 6>to that. Just wanted to see where you were at

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<v Speaker 6>in that. So now let me ask, Hobby, is that

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<v Speaker 6>how that felt came across to you? Because in your response,

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<v Speaker 6>it felt like you doubled down a little bit on.

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<v Speaker 3>On what you said.

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<v Speaker 6>So did you feel a little bit defensive, did you

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<v Speaker 6>feel like you're being corrected or was there an understanding

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<v Speaker 6>of that was what was coming across.

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<v Speaker 8>No, technically, that's just her voice. It seems suggressive sometimes, but.

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes she doesn't let me finish completely completing my sentence.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's why she interrupted by exiting.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I want to revisit that, but I want to

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<v Speaker 6>continue into the conversations of what Addie had brought up

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<v Speaker 6>and see if see if this is a pattern or

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<v Speaker 6>because you said that she can interrupt, not saying that

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<v Speaker 6>that's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my mind is just very short circuited. So especially

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<v Speaker 5>like when we're having a conversation, I would say and

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<v Speaker 5>like she said something that sparked something in me, and

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<v Speaker 5>then my ADHD kind of goes off on a rabbit

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<v Speaker 5>hole trail for a minute, so he has to bring

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<v Speaker 5>me back to what we were talking about. Or sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>he'll forget to you know, that kind of thing. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's not meant like in either like a disrespect or

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he knows what he's talking about. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just something sparks in my brain that if I don't

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<v Speaker 5>tell you, I'm gonna lose it. And it happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll lose what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you waiting on me to speak?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I feel like you got something to said.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean I have a lot to say. My

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<v Speaker 4>two big things though, is that the cutting somebody off,

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<v Speaker 4>even if it's not a malicious way, You're training your

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<v Speaker 4>person to stop speaking when you start talking, and they

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<v Speaker 4>will get to a point where they're going to find

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<v Speaker 4>the inability to speak to you because every time they're

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to say something, they get cut off. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>a psychologic or a subconscious training. It's something that you're

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<v Speaker 4>aware that you do, which means you need to work

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<v Speaker 4>on it. And the other thing was the the correction.

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<v Speaker 4>The Yattman Institute says that correcting your partner on small things,

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<v Speaker 4>on anything, really doing the correction. If somebody's telling a

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<v Speaker 4>story and like twelve years ago and you're like it's thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>like that shit does not help the story at all.

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<v Speaker 4>That minute detail doesn't matter, But you correcting your person

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<v Speaker 4>like that becomes an embarrassing thing to them. And the

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<v Speaker 4>Gotman Institute says that that's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 4>is a marker when they are looking for couples to

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're going to make it or not. So like

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<v Speaker 4>correcting your person is a huge no, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in like public settings. If you need to have a

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<v Speaker 4>discussion afterwards about things, you can do that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure if we've talked about that a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>on the podcast. So I wanted to excuse me. I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to put that out there so that it

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<v Speaker 4>was known. All right, those are my two big things.

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<v Speaker 4>I figured you got a shit ton of notes already, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh no, this is just for me keeping track.

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<v Speaker 6>I retain better not only when I hear it, when

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<v Speaker 6>when I write it down. That's how I process the

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<v Speaker 6>important facts to me, and I filter. I agree with

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<v Speaker 6>those both points. Both of those points I don't want.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want anybody to feel bad about that, right

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<v Speaker 6>Addie for you interrupting, like, don't feel like you are

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<v Speaker 6>a bad person or fill in the blank with the

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<v Speaker 6>negative thing. These are the small, minute things I get

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<v Speaker 6>overlooked often in a relationship, and these are the small

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<v Speaker 6>things that will lead people to I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 6>this became a big fight, right right, because it's those small,

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<v Speaker 6>subconscious frustrations that chip away at the foundation. Gentle perspective,

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<v Speaker 6>gentle correction.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there's a whole lot of things that have to

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<v Speaker 4>happen in doing these things. It's like the karate kid,

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<v Speaker 4>the wax on wax off thing where he's sand index

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<v Speaker 4>and painting houses and all that shit is to teach

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<v Speaker 4>you how to end the moment, react or respond accordingly

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<v Speaker 4>to situations. So when we give you these minor corrections

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<v Speaker 4>of the way that you talk to each other, this

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<v Speaker 4>is so that when you have big things, the work

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<v Speaker 4>has already been done and it makes it very easy

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<v Speaker 4>to do the thing. I just heard it click, the yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it builds the foundation. I heard a click. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>we lost everything again. They're still there though.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so let's jump into so you said mainly me, Addie.

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<v Speaker 6>When we asked what why are we here? What's the

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<v Speaker 6>purpose of the call? You said mainly me? And then

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<v Speaker 6>you went into struggles with the boundaries and then how

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<v Speaker 6>he does not how you feel? Right, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 6>to say that he doesn't what it's not a fact

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<v Speaker 6>you feel that he does not stand up for you

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<v Speaker 6>in regards the mom who oversteps boundaries? Why do you

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<v Speaker 6>feel like that's a you thing? First, let's start there.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have been together a little over four years.

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<v Speaker 5>We got married two years ago. Now, in that whole

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<v Speaker 5>span of our relationship. His side of the family has

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of Type too diabetics, whereas I am a

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<v Speaker 5>genetic Type one diabetic, meaning I don't produce any insulin

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<v Speaker 5>at all. Whereas Type twos, it's normally based on their lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 5>They can take a pill to you know, activate more

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<v Speaker 5>insulin production, things like that, But the way that you

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<v Speaker 5>care for these two diseases are very, very different, and

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<v Speaker 5>in my case, my diabetes is intertwined with all of

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<v Speaker 5>my other health issues. So since I've been with him,

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<v Speaker 5>since we've been together, she always makes these sni sidemark

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<v Speaker 5>comments about how about what I should be eating, how

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<v Speaker 5>my body looks, what I'm wearing, how I'm acting, what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing, I'm not doing enough in our household. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not being a good wife she's given me. She's

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<v Speaker 5>about our financial things, all all just little things that

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<v Speaker 5>you would think a wife needs to take care of.

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<v Speaker 5>Those things are what she specifically attacks on top of

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<v Speaker 5>my health, which she does not see behind closed doors,

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<v Speaker 5>and those comments. Growing up in the trouble home that

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<v Speaker 5>I did, my mom made those comments my whole life,

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<v Speaker 5>even though she was there from the day I was

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<v Speaker 5>diagnosed and heard from the doctors. There was nothing we

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<v Speaker 5>could have done to prevent this disease because my older

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<v Speaker 5>brother has it as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we have to pause because there's so much going

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<v Speaker 4>on here that needs to be addressed, and if we

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<v Speaker 4>don't work as we go, we're gonna get in misship.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready? Yepkay? Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So I first want to touch on Hovey.

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<v Speaker 6>What is your perspective? Let's just start with the mom

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<v Speaker 6>saying Snyder about your wife's chronic illnesses. Do do you

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<v Speaker 6>have the same perspective that she makes snydermarks and she

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<v Speaker 6>oversteps and verbally attacks your wife's existence.

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<v Speaker 7>So she does, and you know I do tell her

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<v Speaker 7>when my wife's not around because I don't want her

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she does back down a bit once in a while,

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<v Speaker 7>but she tends to she's just like her mother, which

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<v Speaker 7>well my grandmother, which they tend to bring it up again,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's a pet peeve that she has, and I

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean a pet peeve?

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<v Speaker 7>Like my mother and my grandma When they start something,

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<v Speaker 7>if you tell them to, they'll stop from that time,

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<v Speaker 7>but like after a while they'll bring it up again,

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<v Speaker 7>like if they didn't have the conversation. It's one of

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<v Speaker 8>And mainly most of the family when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I want to pause there because this is very

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<v Speaker 6>pet peeve is diminishing the way that they are disrespecting

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<v Speaker 6>the relationship. And there's a relationship just being beyond blood relatives.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a level of respect in handling things. If you

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<v Speaker 6>and this is not okay, and they stop it for

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<v Speaker 6>a week or two, and then they pick it back up.

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<v Speaker 6>They heard what you said, and they don't care that

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<v Speaker 6>it bothers you because they reverted back to that behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't don't call that a pet peeve, because, like I said.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe that that's diminishing the irrosive behavior of what

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<v Speaker 6>they're doing. I think it's grander than a pet peeve.

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<v Speaker 4>So she said a couple of things that really stood

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<v Speaker 4>out to me. One, there's a whole lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>you have me to take that off you so you

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<v Speaker 4>need Oh yeah, there's a whole lot of things in

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<v Speaker 4>that line of statements that should not be a thing

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<v Speaker 4>to begin with. There's no reason that your in law

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<v Speaker 4>should know what's going on in your financial situation. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no reason that they should know the intimate details of

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<v Speaker 4>your marriage. There's a whole lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Things. There's a been meshment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a whole lot of things that you need

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<v Speaker 4>to maintain as like sacred in your marriage. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you even said something along the lines of the finances

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<v Speaker 4>are something that the woman is supposed to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually disagree with that across the board. I think

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<v Speaker 4>finances are a man's job. Statistics show that we spend

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<v Speaker 4>money differently when we are in charge of the finances.

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<v Speaker 4>We are less likely to spend on ourselves and more

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<v Speaker 4>likely to spend on our women. And there's a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot of quality of life things that change because we

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<v Speaker 4>get better raises. We tend to look for better paying

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<v Speaker 4>jobs because we know where the money is. And as

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<v Speaker 4>like traditional marriage, it's very important that a man is

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<v Speaker 4>very hands on with the finances. Back to the other things, though,

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<v Speaker 4>the intimate details of your relationship should be your relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>If there are problems happening in your household, and Hobby

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<v Speaker 4>runs to mom or grandma and goes and explains what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening to them, and he's trying to get feedback, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's got good intention there. They now have something to

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<v Speaker 4>gossip about between the two of them when he's not

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<v Speaker 4>on the phone, and aunts and cousins and everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>gets to know about what's going on in y'all's marriage,

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<v Speaker 4>and what is a sacred space in your home is

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<v Speaker 4>now a discussion piece for everybody else's gossip. It then

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<v Speaker 4>gets thrown back in face later and it changes the

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<v Speaker 4>way that people look at you, and it creates what

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<v Speaker 4>we call a negativity bias from the people that are

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<v Speaker 4>in your lives looking into your marriage, and that should

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<v Speaker 4>never be the case. If you guys are having issues,

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<v Speaker 4>there are better ways to get information, and it needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be from somebody that doesn't have any skin in

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<v Speaker 4>the game whatsoever when it comes to your life. So

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<v Speaker 4>that was my big takeaways from what was said there.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to touch on one more thing that

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<v Speaker 3>Hobby said.

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<v Speaker 6>You said that you will correct your mom when your

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<v Speaker 6>woman's not present, So there is a level and I

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<v Speaker 6>totally get it that you don't want your woman to

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<v Speaker 6>see you like that. But there is a level that

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<v Speaker 6>she has to see that my man's willing to step

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<v Speaker 6>up for me no matter what. So you doing this

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<v Speaker 6>behind closed doors?

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<v Speaker 3>Real shit.

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<v Speaker 6>If I were in these shoes of your woman and

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<v Speaker 6>you're telling me that you're having conversations with your mom

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<v Speaker 6>and then her behavior is not changing, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Lying to me, That's how I would view that too,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not saying that you're lying, but that's how

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<v Speaker 6>it would feel. Because I'm not present, I can only

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<v Speaker 6>do based off of what you're telling me, and there's

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<v Speaker 6>no change in action.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's also a whole lot of primal shit that

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<v Speaker 4>happens when you defend your woman against people, regardless of

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<v Speaker 4>who they are, and so like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>like they fucking got me, especially when there's loved ones involved,

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<v Speaker 4>and like it shows that you are putting the marriage

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<v Speaker 4>above everything else. So in that situation, if you were

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<v Speaker 4>to correct the behavior in the moment, like, Hey, that's

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<v Speaker 4>my wife, You're not going to do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate you talking to her like that. If it continues.

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<v Speaker 4>We're leaving. When you guys get in the car, the

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<v Speaker 4>ride home is going to be incredible. Yes, right, there's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a whole lot of new connection established

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<v Speaker 4>because you just did the fucking thing. As the man

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<v Speaker 4>of the relationship, there's a lot of protect, provide, and

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<v Speaker 4>lead in those moments.

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<v Speaker 6>So and confrontation or correction doesn't have to be aggressive.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't have to be this thing where I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want my woman to see me like that. That tells

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<v Speaker 6>me that there's heightened emotion. It could be anger, it

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<v Speaker 6>could be frustration, it could be yelling, it could be fear, fear, name.

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<v Speaker 3>Calling, whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 6>This conversation with your mom is a very calm and

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<v Speaker 6>simple one. You're not going to talk about or speak

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<v Speaker 6>to my woman like this. And this is one of

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<v Speaker 6>those situations where you are going to be presented with

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<v Speaker 6>very hard decisions because you can't make your mom or

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<v Speaker 6>your grandmother.

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<v Speaker 3>Do anything, do anything.

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<v Speaker 6>So if they continue to chip away at your marriage

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<v Speaker 6>and continue to chip away at your wife, going to

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<v Speaker 6>have to decide what am I willing to do to

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<v Speaker 6>protect my wife and my marriage. And that may look

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<v Speaker 6>like distancing or limiting. And like I said, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>have to be crazy aggressive. I'm done with this And

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<v Speaker 6>unless you decide that you want to treat my wife

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<v Speaker 6>with respect, we don't have to have communication for six

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<v Speaker 6>months or three months or whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The that looks like, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Am going to turn our video off on Zoom guys,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm getting notifications from YouTube saying that they're it's

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<v Speaker 4>killing our band with having lives running on two different things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so the video is off cast still going you guys

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<v Speaker 4>just can't see us now. So now we're on the

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<v Speaker 4>phone together. Would you got anything else on that?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, got it? That means I got to join your YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's behind so you just watch it

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<v Speaker 4>without the audio so that you can see our facial

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<v Speaker 4>expressions or whatever. I understand from a family to new

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<v Speaker 4>family perspective, not wanting to create waves and like real shit.

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<v Speaker 4>If he has a good relationship Pavi, if you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a good relationship with your grandparents and your mind, the

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<v Speaker 4>last thing that you want to do is to create

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<v Speaker 4>any type of real waves and be nasty to them

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<v Speaker 4>because you love your family members. So again, like Peter said,

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't a matter of being aggressive and being like

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<v Speaker 4>fuck you, blah blah blah. This is a matter of

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<v Speaker 4>being like, hey, we exchanged vowels. This is my wife

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<v Speaker 4>now and I plan on spending the rest of my

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<v Speaker 4>life with her, and I wouldn't allow anyone else to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to her like this. And I love you Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>I love you Grandma, But like you, guys can't can't

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<v Speaker 4>talk to her like that. And if this is going

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<v Speaker 4>to continue, it's going to disrupt the relationship that all

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<v Speaker 4>of us have and I don't want that. I need

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<v Speaker 4>you guys to respect my marriage, respect my wife, and

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<v Speaker 4>doing so, you're respecting me, and do its in it

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<v Speaker 4>as a diplomatic way as possible so that it's not

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<v Speaker 4>coming across aggressive. But you also have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 4>for them to take that in a negative way, because

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<v Speaker 4>nobody wants to be told that they're doing something wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything else, I am ready to continue.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ready to continue. We said a whole lot, So

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<v Speaker 6>you guys feel free to get into anything next that

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<v Speaker 6>you would like to get into.

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<v Speaker 8>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>In terms of like our like who works with our finances,

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<v Speaker 5>it's because my right now, my physical capacity is very

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<v Speaker 5>low with my health issues, and my husband, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be honest, money is not his thing. All the logins

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<v Speaker 5>we have for our bills. That's just that's not his

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<v Speaker 5>deal now. He makes all of it. He provides for

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<v Speaker 5>us completely, and thankfully I can take the time away

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<v Speaker 5>from working if I choose to, but I really lately

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I struggle with feeling like I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>showing my appreciation enough because I can't physically clean up

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<v Speaker 5>a mess or do the dishes right now, and I

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<v Speaker 5>just I'm not sure how else to show my appreciation.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know, as our provider and protector and everything

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<v Speaker 5>and the lead in our relationship, that it's his job

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<v Speaker 5>to provide and protect and everything, and he always wants

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<v Speaker 5>to treat me better than himself. But it makes me

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I'm not doing my part because I physically

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I pausive again because there's two different aspects

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<v Speaker 4>to this, the first one being the finance, is the

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<v Speaker 4>second one being the change in health and the way

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<v Speaker 4>that things are being taken care of. If you're better

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<v Speaker 4>at taking care of the finances, there are people in

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<v Speaker 4>relationships that don't want to deal with the money at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't change what I said about the way that

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<v Speaker 4>money is spent. So if you were dealing with the finances.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to be doing check ins two to four

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<v Speaker 4>times a week about where things are financially. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>paid this bill, there's x amount in the account. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I just put this into our saving Now there's this

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<v Speaker 4>amount in the account. And the check ins don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be very long. Your credit card has one thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars available on it, it's at forty percent charge. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>use it until I pay another payment. There needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be a constant communication happening with finances, real shit. I

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<v Speaker 4>truly believe that every single relationship that ends up in

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<v Speaker 4>divorce has finances within the top three, if not the

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<v Speaker 4>number one spot, every single time, even if there's infidelity.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that the stress starts with finances and it

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<v Speaker 4>makes everything else fucked up. So there's no reason that

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<v Speaker 4>that finances aren't a daily or every other day conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk about it multiple times a day, every time

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<v Speaker 4>something comes up, anytime there's money going out, if a

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<v Speaker 4>credit card gets paid, I don't just take care of

425
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<v Speaker 4>the money. She knows that the shit's taken care of,

426
00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.279
<v Speaker 4>but I tell her what's going on, what's coming in,

427
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.240
<v Speaker 4>what's going out, so that she's in the know of everything.

428
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<v Speaker 4>She has nothing to do with our finances. She's like, hey,

429
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<v Speaker 4>I want to buy this thing is their money, And

430
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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, go do your thing, babe, because that's I

431
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<v Speaker 4>don't even know. That's what I do with the finance.

432
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that you even listen to me most

433
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<v Speaker 4>of the time, but I do. Well, I'm to a

434
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<v Speaker 4>degree that if you did, you wouldn't have to ask me.

435
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<v Speaker 3>Most of the time. I don't. Yeah, if it's over

436
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:00.599
<v Speaker 3>three hundred bucks, but.

437
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<v Speaker 2>That's good, that's fair. I appreciate that.

438
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know what, I realized, it's three hundred

439
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 3>bucks in one blow.

440
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<v Speaker 6>Like I'm cool with spending fifteen bucks here and there,

441
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:11.640
<v Speaker 6>and then adds up to three hundred bucks and I

442
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<v Speaker 6>don't say anything.

443
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what were you saying, Hobby? Well, oh, okay, I

444
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.000
<v Speaker 4>thought you were cutting out or you were cutting out.

445
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<v Speaker 4>I thought you were saying something.

446
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<v Speaker 8>No, it's because uh.

447
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.759
<v Speaker 5>I was in the first YouTube one where like the

448
00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.720
<v Speaker 5>call got jacked up and you had to redo the thingy,

449
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 5>so I wasn't in the correct one. And he's looking

450
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 5>at my screen frozen, like, hey, m I want to

451
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 5>check the discord because that's not the right video.

452
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotcha? Okay.

453
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<v Speaker 4>So the other thing was do you have anything on

454
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the first part of that, on the finances, I do not, Okay.

455
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.759
<v Speaker 4>The other thing was the health and the feeling like

456
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you're not doing enough and him taking care of you

457
00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 4>more than himself. That's what I was talking about with

458
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 4>the finances. When we know what's going on, we're more

459
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.799
<v Speaker 4>likely to send you to retreats. You're more likely to

460
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 4>get your hair done, your nails done, the new thing

461
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.519
<v Speaker 4>that you want, getting your car detailed, whatever, whatever, whatever,

462
00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:01.079
<v Speaker 4>because we want to make sure that you have a

463
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.759
<v Speaker 4>life of abundance. That also makes us work harder, It

464
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 4>makes us earn more over the cost of the course

465
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:11.359
<v Speaker 4>of a life, and it inspires us to continue to

466
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 4>find better pain jobs. You can go on the other

467
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:17.799
<v Speaker 4>aspects of that with the the thing.

468
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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So I wanted to touch on you said that

469
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<v Speaker 6>you are struggling because you can't do the dishes or

470
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<v Speaker 6>you can't clamp a pile of a mess, and that

471
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 6>is what you ac create a credit, a credit your

472
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:36.680
<v Speaker 6>appreciation to being shown as so if I am hearing

473
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 6>you properly and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

474
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 6>it sounds like your love language to show that you

475
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.119
<v Speaker 6>love him as acts of service.

476
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>And girl, you got to listen to your body.

477
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:51.839
<v Speaker 5>Or gifts as well. And I feel like he doesn't

478
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 5>receive gifts well because he keeps telling me no, he

479
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 5>doesn't want anything and to just get what I need.

480
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:02.960
<v Speaker 5>And I feel very frustrated with that. But I'm still

481
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:08.400
<v Speaker 5>learning about love languages and like giving and receiving of

482
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:12.599
<v Speaker 5>love languages. I'm still new to that and it's something

483
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 5>I severely struggle with because of my autism. I have

484
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 5>to start. I'm still learning to recognize what they are

485
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 5>and how to do that.

486
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<v Speaker 4>Your autism has nothing to do with you learning the

487
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 4>love languages. There's five of them, and they're super easy

488
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:29.880
<v Speaker 4>to understand. You guys can sit down do the love

489
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 4>language quiz in fifteen minutes and understand all of that

490
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 4>very very easy. That's a super super simple thing. It's

491
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 4>just dedicating the fifteen to thirty minutes to do it.

492
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 4>You can't expect somebody to live your love language. You're

493
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 4>giving gifts in the ways that you do love languages,

494
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 4>and the way that you show love may not be

495
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 4>how they receive it. Like if peaches, I give gifts

496
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm a gift giver, but I don't want to receive it.

497
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't want anything like that. It makes me uncomfortable

498
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 4>when people give me things. So if she owns tried

499
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 4>to shower me with gifts, I would feel neglected in

500
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 4>the other aspects of my life that I need to

501
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 4>fill my cup. So you guys do need to do

502
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 4>the love languages. I used to think that shit was

503
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 4>pop psychology. It's fucking real. Yeah, you know, we all

504
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 4>need specific things in our life to make sure that

505
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.160
<v Speaker 4>we are seen and heard and validated and important. And

506
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 4>a lot of men don't have gift giving or receiving

507
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.000
<v Speaker 4>as a love language. It's low on the total poll

508
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 4>for us. It's words of affirmation and physical touch almost

509
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 4>across the board.

510
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<v Speaker 6>So I just wanted to present a different perspective to

511
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.960
<v Speaker 6>that this is just a possibility, right, So there's a

512
00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 6>shadow to everything in life once the light hits it.

513
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 6>And is it possible that the shadow of you showing

514
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 6>your appreciation through acts of service is that you have

515
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 6>your self worth tied to the labor that you can provide,

516
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 6>versus trying to show him appreciation through being able to

517
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 6>maintain the household or fill in the blank of that.

518
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<v Speaker 6>And you don't have to answer that right now. If

519
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 6>you would like, that could be like a journal question

520
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 6>for yourself later.

521
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's definitely a journal problemamb.

522
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, it already kind of hit me.

523
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I feel like my situation that hit me.

524
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 5>My work has always been connected to what I can

525
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 5>provide other people due to the way that I was raised.

526
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 5>It is, and it's something I'm still trying to relearn

527
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 5>that that's not always curate.

528
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Did you cut out? Are you done with your sentence?

529
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 8>No?

530
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 5>That was the my said sentence is that it's not

531
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 5>always accurate, Like just because you can't do hard labor

532
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 5>or do a service of some sort shouldn't necessarily determine

533
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 5>your worth. And that's something I'm still having to reteach reself.

534
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 3>All right, So let me help you with that reteaching.

535
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<v Speaker 6>You said that you have always been this way with

536
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 6>your chronic illnesses, and I will put I don't know.

537
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 6>I don't have bricks of gold, but if I did,

538
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 6>I would put my bricks of gold on the fact

539
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 6>that Hobby did not marry you because you have been

540
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 6>an athlete, marathon, house taker, care over or fill in

541
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 6>the blink, right you. You provide happiness and joy for

542
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 6>him in other ways. That is not the quote unquote

543
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 6>common womanly duties of maintaining the household or cooking every

544
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 6>single day. Or I don't think you guys have children.

545
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 6>I feel like you would have said that by now.

546
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 6>But if you did, like running the appointments and making

547
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 6>phone calls.

548
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 5>We've been struggling with fertility for a little over two

549
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 5>years now, but it's definitely something we are trying for.

550
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 5>But no, we have not had children yet. We just

551
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 5>have three for.

552
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Carrently, Okay, I want to ask you, since you you

553
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 4>have chronic illness, what are you doing in the downtime

554
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 4>when you are struggling? Are you sleeping? Are you laying

555
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 4>down and not doing anything? Are you doom scrolling? Are

556
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 4>you watching TV? As somebody like? Because I blew out

557
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 4>two of the discs in my back and fucked myself

558
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 4>up pretty bad a couple years ago, and I still

559
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 4>managed to do a whole lot of life stuff instead

560
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 4>of allowing it to knock me completely out of the game.

561
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>I've had other medical issues that has has fucked me

562
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 4>up pretty bad, but I'm not chronically ill or terminally ill.

563
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 4>There's a difference in those things. But I use my

564
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 4>downtime in ways that's going to benefit my life. And

565
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>if you know that these things are an issue for

566
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>you and you're not trying to find ways to improve,

567
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 4>and you're just accepting that this is what is, you're

568
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 4>choosing that life. And I'm not saying you're choosing the

569
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 4>chronic illness. I have to be very clear about that.

570
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying that you're choosing to doom scroll instead of

571
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.839
<v Speaker 4>doing things that's going to make your mind better or

572
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 4>find ways to understand love languages. Right, if you spent

573
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 4>six hours doom scrolling because you were sick, you could

574
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 4>have read a thirty minute article on the love languages

575
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 4>and taking the quiz or taking a personality test or

576
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 4>started learning, you know, how to make money online doing

577
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 4>very little work or whatever whatever, whatever, Like, there's always

578
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>time in your day that you can be utilizing differently

579
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 4>to increase your overall standing in life.

580
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Just something to ponder.

581
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I yeah, in my like when i'm I call

582
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 5>them flare ups, but I have especially currently it. So

583
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 5>we're in Texas and of course summer is a very hot.

584
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 5>This whole week has been over one hundred and ten

585
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 5>degrees like the full week, and it's been causing seizures

586
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 5>for the last almost month now. In my downtime in

587
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 5>between seizures, when I'm actually you know, out of it,

588
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 5>I tend to focus on doing things that help me

589
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 5>bring back my motor skills a little faster, because my

590
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 5>seizures really affect that. I've been reading books on like

591
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.039
<v Speaker 5>any like certain sort of things I can do to

592
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 5>help lesson seizures, natural medications, things like that. I've read

593
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 5>a few articles on love languages, but I just I

594
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 5>still don't understand them, Like I just don't. I'm so

595
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to explain it, but they just

596
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 5>don't quite make that much sense to me.

597
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 4>We we have an entire playlist. We broke those down

598
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 4>really well, so you can just watch them. It'll make

599
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 4>it easier. If it's one hundred and ten degrees outside,

600
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 4>why in the fuck are you going outside?

601
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Ever?

602
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 5>We're I'm currently in the pasmetology school. But yeah, with

603
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 5>that heat during the highest points of the day, which

604
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 5>is like almost ten hours here, I'm pretty much can't

605
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 5>do anything. Can't drive, can't really walk too far. I

606
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 5>have to like lean against our wall and Thankfully, my

607
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 5>husband works night shifts so he's not out in the

608
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.079
<v Speaker 5>very heat of the day for the most part, but that,

609
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 5>along with my diabetes, has been causing a lot of

610
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:17.279
<v Speaker 5>issues health wise, so it's been the balancing act there

611
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 5>has been really hard, especially with when I was having

612
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 5>back to back seizures. I was losing time because they

613
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 5>were so close together. But thankfully, my husband's always been

614
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 5>great with my health issues, so he keeps me very grounded.

615
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 5>But it's definitely something I'm still working on and I

616
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 5>try to be better, but it's it's a little hard

617
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 5>to manage trying to do something productive in those moments

618
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 5>depending on what's going on.

619
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to ask the first thing that comes

620
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 6>to my mind, and that is, do you feel like

621
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 6>you have unreal, unreal, realistic expectations of you.

622
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>And and the body that you live in?

623
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 6>Right? And I ask that because I don't. I have

624
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 6>my own issues right, not to the extent that you do.

625
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 6>And I know that I put too much on me

626
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 6>and I have to take a step back and be like, Okay,

627
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 6>it's okay that I can't do this. My body is limited,

628
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 6>and I have to accept that I'm gonna leave it

629
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 6>at that. Now, I'm gonna let you answer.

630
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 5>Chris, did you want to say something before I answered her?

631
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 5>Or do you want me to answer first?

632
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 4>No, because I think the things that I'm gonna say

633
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 4>is gonna it's not gonna go over well with the internet.

634
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna wait until you answer, and then if

635
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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I need to say it I want

636
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<v Speaker 4>to say, I'll say it. Otherwise I'm just gonna stay silent.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I always appreciate your honesty and your podcast, so

638
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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna start with that. But I definitely need to

639
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<v Speaker 5>hold myself to higher expectations. I feel like, mainly because

640
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 5>between his mother and my mother, they have put these

641
00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 5>crazy expectations on me that I should be doing all

642
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.279
<v Speaker 5>these things that I currently cannot do. And I'm in

643
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 5>the process of like rewiring my brain to remember that

644
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 5>their words do not have to be the way that

645
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 5>I hold myself. I don't have to have to live

646
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 5>up to that expectation because it's not accurate anymore because

647
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm not necessarily with his mom, but my mom, I've

648
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 5>grown and changed so much since I was living in

649
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 5>her house at sixteen.

650
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 4>How old are you guys? You've been together for four years.

651
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 4>You were living at sixteen. I'm guessing you guys are

652
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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty.

653
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<v Speaker 5>One, A little off. I'm twenty eight and he is thirty.

654
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<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute.

655
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 4>You were living at his parents when you were sixteen

656
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 4>years old, and you guys have only been together for

657
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<v Speaker 4>four I.

658
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Was living with my mom at sixteen.

659
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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I miss I missed a lot since I

660
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 4>lived with gotcha, Okay, I misunderstood. I thought it was

661
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 4>his mom. I was like, wait a minute, how on

662
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<v Speaker 4>the fuck?

663
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sorry, that was kind of my bad.

664
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I am gonna say what I was gonna say.

665
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<v Speaker 4>This is not an insult to people.

666
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 8>Guys.

667
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 4>You have to learn to adapt and overcome. I know

668
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 4>people who are paraplegics nothing from the neck down, like

669
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 4>they got to blow into a straw to get around,

670
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 4>and they found ways to still enjoy their life. I

671
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 4>understand that you've got medical conditions and all of those things.

672
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.440
<v Speaker 4>You have to learn to like adapt your life to

673
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 4>your situation and not try to live to the expectations

674
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 4>of others. It would be very unrealistic for me to

675
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 4>contact my boy Rob and be like, bro, I know

676
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 4>you're in a wheelchair, but I expect you to run

677
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>a marathon.

678
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's go right, it's not even that's not even a thing.

679
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 4>But I also don't expect him to sit around and

680
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 4>feel sorry for himself either. So, like if I reached

681
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 4>out to him and I'm like, how are you doing

682
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 4>today and he's like, oh, you know, I'm fucking depressed,

683
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:47.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be like, well, what have you done to

684
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 4>do something about that? I'm not going to just accept

685
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 4>that you're feeling sorry for yourself. And I'm not saying

686
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 4>that that's what's going on with you. I'm just using

687
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 4>that as a very broad example. If you've got something

688
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>going on in your life that creates problems, no body's

689
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 4>coming to save you. You are on your own to learn

690
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 4>to work around and make these things work. And you know,

691
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 4>I still stand by what I said earlier with the

692
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 4>doing things in your downtime to increase the standing of

693
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 4>your life. If you're going to cosmetic school and you're

694
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 4>or a cosmetology I don't know if you're going for

695
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 4>hair and makeup or nails or d All of the

696
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 4>above is okay, but how how realistic is this going

697
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 4>to be for a career for you? If you are

698
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 4>having a hard time doing dishes. Data entry would be

699
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 4>a much better job. Like, there's other options out there

700
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 4>for you. It's just the point that I was trying

701
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 4>to make is that you know, you have to be

702
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 4>realistic with your life and you have to be trying

703
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 4>to make things work with what you've got going on

704
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.039
<v Speaker 4>versus you know, getting a pointless degree or and I'm

705
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 4>not saying it's just pointless. Real shit, you can get

706
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 4>that degree in open fucking business and have people working

707
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 4>for you and make money. But I just don't want

708
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 4>you to.

709
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Time is short and wasting. It doesn't

710
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 2>make sense to me.

711
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 4>You have to, like I said, you have to build

712
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 4>the life around what you're capable of doing. And there's

713
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 4>a whole lot of learning new aspects to be able

714
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>to do that.

715
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, I get you. I have a business plan.

716
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 5>That's the whole reason I entered cosmatology school is so

717
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 5>that I can help other disabled people who can't go

718
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 5>to like standard salons. That was the whole plan behind it.

719
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 5>But we'll see if I'm still at that place in

720
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 5>a year.

721
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay, have you this is I'm not going to get

722
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 4>into business with you I'm literally just going to ask

723
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 4>you this and then I want to move away completely

724
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 4>from business. Have you looked at the demographic of people

725
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 4>in your area that that would actually cater to, Because

726
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.400
<v Speaker 4>if you have a business model that only reaches zero

727
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 4>point two five percent of the population of your town,

728
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 4>that's not a business model, it's charity. You will never

729
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 4>make a living or even be able to provide for yourself,

730
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 4>let alone even by your supplies with such a small

731
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 4>demographic of people. And it's just something to think about.

732
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 4>You don't need to answer the question. This is just

733
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 4>for anybody that's trying to start a business plan. If

734
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 4>you have not looked into the key demographics of your

735
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:03.840
<v Speaker 4>business and what you're trying to do for your area,

736
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 4>you are already starting at a negative and and and

737
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 4>you were likely to fail because of it. So you

738
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>need to look into your key demographics so your customers

739
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 4>customers are going to be and then try to figure

740
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 4>out how you're going to make that work if you

741
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 4>go that route. If you want to talk business shit,

742
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 4>you can tag me in the discord anytime and I'll

743
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 4>answer the questions.

744
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>This is not what this is for.

745
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I just I appreciate it.

746
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Going back to the.

747
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 6>Conversation about mother grandmother boundaries them over bleeding into your

748
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 6>guys's life. Right, So we've talked about it's an issue

749
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 6>to have other people in your relationship that are not

750
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 6>in your relationship. Addie, what what are your wants or

751
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:46.840
<v Speaker 6>your expectations with how your husband conducts himself or sets

752
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 6>boundaries going forward?

753
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 5>Right?

754
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 3>What what is going to put this to rest inside

755
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 3>of you?

756
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 2>You mean with his family, right?

757
00:38:53.360 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, with the family that he stops letting them disrespect

758
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 5>me when they speak about the way my the way

759
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 5>I am, I choose to express myself as well as

760
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 5>my health issues.

761
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, wait, I'm sorry this is now we're having a

762
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 4>different conversation than what we had a minute ago. You

763
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 4>expressing yourself and your health issues are two different things.

764
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>What was so?

765
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean expressing myself? I mean by like the way

766
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 5>I dress, because they're always commenting about how I look,

767
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 5>the way my body is things I can't well, I

768
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 5>can control the way I look, obviously, but not like

769
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 5>I can't control the way my body was built. Okay,

770
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 5>kind of seeing as well as my health, those are

771
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:45.840
<v Speaker 5>my main two things that those are topics that are

772
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 5>not their business, and I don't feel they should speak

773
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 5>disrespectfully me to me about those things in any case.

774
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you for clarifying. That just didn't make sense

775
00:39:59.119 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>to me.

776
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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to take this a step further, and

777
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 6>now I'm going to ask what does that look like?

778
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Does that look like him having a conversation with you

779
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 6>in the room to them? Is this going to be

780
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 6>setting up a list of boundaries and seeing if they

781
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 6>adhere to that?

782
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 5>What does.

783
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 3>What does that look like? I'm repeating myself at this one.

784
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I think it would probably I've never experienced it before.

785
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 5>This is like my real, first healthy relationship, honestly, but

786
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 5>I think it looks like Kim is having that conversation

787
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 5>in front of me so that it is clear and

788
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 5>everyone is present in that moment, so no one can say, oh, yeah,

789
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 5>well he said this and I did this. You know,

790
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't want any where they can twist it any

791
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of way to try to get in between us

792
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 5>at some point in the future, because I felt like

793
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 5>that was a real possibility and having those close those

794
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 5>conversations behind closed doors have not changed anything in four years.

795
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 5>And then following that, if they keep doing it, setting

796
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 5>boundaries and if they can ithre to that limiting contact.

797
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's unrealistic, don't.

798
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't either.

799
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I am curious have you stood up for yourself in

800
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>any of this or do you, like, are you waiting

801
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 4>on him to do the thing?

802
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 5>I have spoken up to his mother quite a few

803
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 5>times and she always tries to spin it off like

804
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 5>it was a joke. Disgusting, But a joke that is

805
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 5>disrespectful isn't a joke. It's just a compliment sandwich, if

806
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 5>you will, in a sense, but with a fake joke instead.

807
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 3>It's degrading. That's what that is. Yes, that that is

808
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 3>malicious intent.

809
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 6>That is intentionally going out of your way to bring

810
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 6>somebody else down, to feed into a superiority or an ego.

811
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<v Speaker 3>There.

812
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<v Speaker 6>I want to say this before we continue on those

813
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 6>moments where she says something in the moment and you

814
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 6>guys are in a room together.

815
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>She needs to be corrected immediately.

816
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 6>This isn't something that we talk about six hours later

817
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 6>once we've all dispersed. Families have a really big problem

818
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 6>enabling and perpetuating toxic behaviors because they don't want to

819
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 6>handle the fallout or the meltdown or whatever. They tiptoe

820
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 6>around the most toxic person and it bleeds out because

821
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 6>everybody else is miserable because nobody can say something to

822
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 6>that person, Right, Hovey, I do view that you are

823
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 6>enabling some type of abuse towards your wife and allowing

824
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 6>your mother and grandmother to degrade her. This way, there

825
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 6>is a level of defense and protection no matter who

826
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 6>it's coming from, that that has to happen.

827
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<v Speaker 3>Do you have anything to say them?

828
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 5>So?

829
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I have two things.

830
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<v Speaker 4>The people in the chat keep saying that they think

831
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 4>this is a culture thing because Hobby's probably got Latin parents.

832
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I think I understand that that's the thing, But that's

833
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 4>a bullshit excuse. That is justifying behavior based on tradition,

834
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 4>and that's accepting generational bullshit.

835
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that.

836
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to get into with this is that you

837
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 4>don't have really okay, how do I word this and

838
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 4>make it make sense them? When people say something to

839
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 4>you and you feel disrespected, it doesn't always mean that

840
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 4>they're being disrespectful. It means that you feel disrespected. Then

841
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 4>there's a difference there, And if you feel disrespected, it's

842
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 4>okay to acknowledge that, Hey, what you just said came

843
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 4>across as and I now feel disrespected and I would

844
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 4>appreciate it if you don't do that again. And if

845
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 4>they go, well, I was just joking, you can say, well,

846
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 4>I understand that's your humor, and I'm telling you that

847
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 4>that's not okay with the way that I expect people

848
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 4>to treat me. And if you do not, you know,

849
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 4>respect the way that I want to be treated, I'm

850
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 4>not going to be here. That's the boundary that you set.

851
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 4>And if that joke comes across, or they play it

852
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 4>off or they try to downplay what's going on, you

853
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.239
<v Speaker 4>get up and you fucking leave. And if you're riding

854
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 4>passenger princess and can't leave, you go sit in the

855
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 4>car until he leaves, and then you guys can have

856
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.639
<v Speaker 4>a conversation about why it took so fucking long for

857
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 4>him to follow suit. Yeah, there's a whole lot of

858
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 4>you treat people how to treat or you train people

859
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 4>how to treat you, and when you allow things to

860
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 4>continue long term, you everybody knows how far they can

861
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 4>push your buttons, yes, and when you allow those buttons

862
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 4>to continuously get pushed that you have to have a

863
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 4>very extreme reaction before they stop because they know that

864
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 4>they can get away with shit.

865
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>You can.

866
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>You can be disrespected by something that someone said or

867
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 4>did that was not disrespectful at all, and it is

868
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 4>totally okay to feel that way. You should figure out

869
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 4>why you feel that way. That's things that you journal about,

870
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 4>meditate and pray about whatever it is that you need

871
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 4>to do to figure that shit out on your own.

872
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 4>But you don't have to tolerate it. And that's one

873
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 4>of the biggest lessons that people need to learn. When

874
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 4>you learn to love yourself and you have like an

875
00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 4>adherent self worth, there's a very different mindset from allowing

876
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 4>somebody to be disrespectful and tolerating somebody being disrespectful. And

877
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying you needed to hoot and holler and

878
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 4>jump and puff fucking chest out and smack tables over

879
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 4>and be that. There's no reason for any of that shit.

880
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 4>There's so much more power in being like, well, I've

881
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 4>overstayed my welcome. You guys have a good day, and

882
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 4>you fucking walk out the room. You don't even have

883
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 4>to wait for a goodbye. Real shit in business, there

884
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 4>have been multiple times where I have said what I've

885
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 4>needed to said say, and I have gotten up and

886
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I have left.

887
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 3>It's so hot.

888
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Every time I have done that, I've gotten a phone

889
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 4>call within forty five minutes from the people that I

890
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 4>walked out on and being like, hey, did we offend you?

891
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 5>You know?

892
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Are you okay? You left in a hurry? Is everything

893
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>all right? And I'm like, no, I made my fucking point.

894
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 4>You guys need to figure out what you're going to

895
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 4>do now, and that's the end of the discussion. It's

896
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 4>almost manipulative, but it's letting people know where I am

897
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 4>at and the power that I hold in my life.

898
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be a doormat for fucking anyone.

899
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 4>So this is as much as it's on him to

900
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 4>conduct himself with his family members, and you guys work

901
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 4>together as a unit, you know, one flesh in your

902
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 4>marriage to make sure that the marriage is sacred.

903
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you see what she just did? Okay?

904
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 4>It's also on you to make sure that you love

905
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 4>yourself and that the people around you know that you

906
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 4>love yourself and you're not going to accept less than

907
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 4>from anyone.

908
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 5>Do you balance that in not overstepping my baland is

909
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 5>his wife to his family but I have already personally

910
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 5>had these conversations with my family because one person made

911
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 5>one disrespectful comment. I was like, look that happens again,

912
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 5>and we won't ever come back. That's that's my man,

913
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.360
<v Speaker 5>that's my husband. I we're one soul now, and I

914
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 5>just how do I find the balance between those two things.

915
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Ain't no balance. There's no balance there. I don't know

916
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>what your vowels look like. Marriage is a very sacred

917
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 4>thing between two people, and not everybody does the typical

918
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Bible valves. I don't know what they look like. But

919
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 4>when you say I do, when you make a covenant

920
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 4>between the two of you, and if you've got guide involved,

921
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 4>there's a three way agreement that's there, that we are

922
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 4>one flesh now and that this family supersedes everything else.

923
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.639
<v Speaker 4>Your marriage is the most important family aspect that you have,

924
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 4>and everything around your marriage is secondary, tritiary, like it

925
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 4>just continues.

926
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>To go on and on and on.

927
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 4>I understand that there's blood ties there, and there's a

928
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 4>whole lot of well, they raised me and we're all

929
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 4>of these things. I am a very firm believer that

930
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 4>your marriage, your spouse is the number one priority above

931
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 4>all things in your life, including you, and when you

932
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 4>treat each other like they are the most important thing

933
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 4>above everything else, and the marriage is the most important thing,

934
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 4>everything else falls into place because you're not living from

935
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 4>a place of selfishness and you're not worried about other

936
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 4>people's feelings. In that aspect, this is not a matter

937
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 4>of I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. This is

938
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 4>a matter of my marriage. It matters more than your

939
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 4>fucking feelings does real shit, Mom, Grandma, You're gonna die

940
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 4>one day and I love you, and I hate that

941
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 4>I just said that, but that's the truth of it,

942
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 4>and so are we. But I have a longer time

943
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 4>with my wife, God willing, then you guys got left

944
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 4>on this earth.

945
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Your wife is gonna get so much more than you

946
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 3>than your mother ever did.

947
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.119
<v Speaker 4>Right, I'm trying to to enjoy every moment with this

948
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 4>person that I have committed myself to for the rest

949
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 4>of my life. There's I don't think that people view

950
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 4>marriage as such a sacred thing anymore. It's just the

951
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 4>next part of the evolution of a relationship. And like

952
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask them where they put their

953
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 4>marriage and like how that's prioritized but I mean it

954
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 4>sounds like you got it down under control. Have you

955
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 4>gone back to that relative's house since you laid that out?

956
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 5>So when I laid it, it was my my grandmother

957
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 5>on my mom's side, and she has not made any

958
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 5>derogatory comments about my husband. She's she's done everything I requested, thankfully.

959
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 5>So it's been a pretty I guess, smooth transition in

960
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 5>a sense that one comment happened and nothing has happened since.

961
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Good good.

962
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

963
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 6>That that is the that's the proof that you stand

964
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 6>up for yourself and people will fall in line if

965
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 6>they actually want to be in your life.

966
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

967
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I also it makes me curious about what her marriage

968
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 4>look like like. Did she have a long, healthy marriage,

969
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 4>because if so, she understood that you stand on business

970
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 4>right right, there's a whole lot of you don't want

971
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 4>to ever try to make me choose between you and

972
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 4>my woman. I don't give a fuck who you are,

973
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 4>real shit, I understand the whole concept of God in source,

974
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.840
<v Speaker 4>but like I have, I made a vow. Yeah, and

975
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 4>like there's not going to be anything that's going to

976
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 4>come between that because this is this is us.

977
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 3>So I have a question, do.

978
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 6>Mom and Grandma hobbies side only act this way towards you,

979
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 6>or is this a prominent pattern with them towards everybody

980
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 6>within the family unit.

981
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I'm very singled out. But there are

982
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 5>like cousin cousins, right, that's what ari right, Okay, cousins

983
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 5>that kind of like his cousins and like his mom,

984
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 5>don't quite get along. And then like some of the

985
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 5>the his theas don't quite like his siblings, like those

986
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 5>types of like they all talk a little bit of

987
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 5>shit about each other, But I don't ever really see

988
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 5>personal attacks like I feel.

989
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Happened to me was because it's personal to you and

990
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 4>and the other way around.

991
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not.

992
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.519
<v Speaker 6>So Now I have a question, Hovey, are you an

993
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 6>only child or are you the only son?

994
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 8>I'm actually the third child out of four.

995
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 5>And he's got two other brothers.

996
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so now have another question for you. You you

997
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.679
<v Speaker 6>have dealt with your mom the longest she's your mother.

998
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 6>Has she always had these tendencies? Do you feel like

999
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 6>this has been a thing and maybe past relationships and

1000
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 6>maybe y yeah, maybe like high school relationships when you

1001
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 6>started dating that she would be aggressive towards your women,

1002
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 6>or is it just with your wife.

1003
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 7>Uh actually only well, no, what the first girlfriend? It

1004
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 7>was it because she I'm not trying to be like

1005
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 7>very you know, I'm want.

1006
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 3>To say there's no worry of anything.

1007
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna be straightforward. When oh, my first one, she.

1008
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 7>Was very like aggressive and suicidal to the point where, yeah,

1009
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 7>she was trying to be manipulive that I can't speak.

1010
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:41.039
<v Speaker 5>She was trying to be manipulive. She would use suicide

1011
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 5>to make him stay or to make it do certain

1012
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 5>things that she wanted him to do.

1013
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Adie, you just did it again.

1014
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 5>No, he he couldn't pronounce the word and he asked

1015
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 5>me to explain it because he wasn't getting.

1016
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Okay, I have a I have a major and

1017
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 8>speech impediment.

1018
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 7>What was born with so like most of the time

1019
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 7>she'll speak for me on what I need to say,

1020
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 7>so I can't pronounce certain things correctly, okay, and I

1021
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 7>bring decides to mumble it.

1022
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm gonna for what it's worth, We're able to

1023
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 4>catch the Bible what you're trying to say. And while

1024
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 4>we're speaking to you, at least I would rather hear

1025
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:23.960
<v Speaker 4>from you than have her talk over you.

1026
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm a plan to see that. I think that's

1027
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 6>actually a detriment. If you look at not just your wife,

1028
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.320
<v Speaker 6>anybody to speak for you, you are never going to

1029
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.360
<v Speaker 6>gain confidence or or develop beyond where you're at now.

1030
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but yeah, she was very aggressive, tarred me to

1031
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 7>the point where I had let her know one day

1032
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 7>that I was taking a nap and like I was

1033
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 7>very tired, I was already up for twenty four hours,

1034
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 7>and she decided to send me a message saying that

1035
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 7>I wasn't paying enough attention to her.

1036
00:52:57.559 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 8>So that was the point.

1037
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.519
<v Speaker 7>My mom had saw it and told me, told me

1038
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.320
<v Speaker 7>straight up that she's not wanting and she doesn't want

1039
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 7>to see this on my hands because it was about

1040
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 7>her ending her own life. So I decided to tell

1041
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 7>the first girlfriend that we were done because of that,

1042
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:28.159
<v Speaker 7>And it was something that I did. I had suggested

1043
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 7>I'm doing myself because after seeing.

1044
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 9>The way my mom looked at me, You're good, all right,

1045
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 9>The way that my mother had looked at me, and

1046
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 9>then the way the message had written, now I knew

1047
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 9>that she was just trying to get more attention than

1048
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 9>she needed just for her own uh fun out of it?

1049
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you got anything on that because I do.

1050
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 6>No that answer I think like maybe ten percent of

1051
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 6>my question. So if you have something pertained to what

1052
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 6>was just said, you can do that.

1053
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll be real quick.

1054
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Then Okay, this is so good that you were able

1055
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 4>to see the manipulation happening.

1056
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a very good thing.

1057
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 4>But it also gave your mom a power that she

1058
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't have otherwise because she told you to end it

1059
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 4>and you did. The whole situation that's going on every

1060
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 4>everything that just transpired, with the manipulation and the talking

1061
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 4>over and the conversations that we just had, it sounds

1062
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 4>like there's a lot of giving up your power to

1063
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 4>other people and it's bleeding into your marriage and a

1064
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.639
<v Speaker 4>negative polarity because of it. And we can get into

1065
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 4>that more iph we need to, but I just wanted

1066
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 4>to point that out, like moms get very possessive over

1067
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.000
<v Speaker 4>their sons, especially when they have the power to do

1068
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.320
<v Speaker 4>so there's a very whole I brought you into this world,

1069
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 4>I can take you out of it kind of thing,

1070
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 4>and that's it's a very ugly situation for a lot

1071
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:54.719
<v Speaker 4>of people.

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00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.480
<v Speaker 6>But go ahead, So with that, right, the first girlfriend

1073
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 6>is when like she wasn't super overbearing, but she did

1074
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 6>give a direction you followed it. So past that, have

1075
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 6>had you noticed any other tendencies? Like does she overstep

1076
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 6>into your personal life? Is this something that you've only

1077
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 6>noticed with your wife? Is this something that has only

1078
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 6>happened with your wife? Beyond that that first instance with

1079
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 6>the manic girlfriend, we can say.

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00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 7>I would say yes, because she has stepped in and

1081
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 7>she's tried to like tell me how things are supposed

1082
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 7>to be done.

1083
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:35.679
<v Speaker 8>But like I've never actually.

1084
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 7>Like accepted what she says because it's my marriage.

1085
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.480
<v Speaker 8>Like yeah, she's my.

1086
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.559
<v Speaker 7>Mother's, but when she gets suppressed to her about what

1087
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 7>she needs to be done, I really don't.

1088
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 8>I let it be her opinion, not her her voice

1089
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 8>in it.

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00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 6>Can you elaborate on that? What do you mean by

1091
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 6>her opinion versus her voice?

1092
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 7>Like she could make her own statement on how she

1093
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 7>wants us to uh, how she wants us to live

1094
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 7>and everything. But all in all, it's like it we're

1095
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:20.679
<v Speaker 7>living our own life. You still have your marriage and

1096
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:25.239
<v Speaker 7>like like I told her multiple times, Like like I said,

1097
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 7>I told her behind when it's just me and her,

1098
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 7>like it it's our life, Like I'll take her I'll

1099
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.239
<v Speaker 7>listen to her opinion, but I won't actually like fully

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00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 7>take it unless it's needed.

1101
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 8>So when we're taking it with a grain of salt.

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00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.599
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that makes sense. So what I'm taking away from

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00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 6>what you're saying is that your mom is just kind

1104
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 6>of like talking a bunch of hot air and it

1105
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 6>doesn't really bother you. It's in one year out the other,

1106
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 6>not a big, big disruption to your life.

1107
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 10>Okay, unless it's unless it's it's something that's really needed,

1108
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 10>I will take it as advice, but other than that,

1109
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.559
<v Speaker 10>it would just be opinions.

1110
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 3>So now let me ask you this.

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00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.679
<v Speaker 6>Do you do you feel like I just don't want

1112
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 6>to deal with my mom like she's just talking shit.

1113
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm a letter talk shit and then continue off my life.

1114
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 8>Pretty much because as she was saying, as aDNA was saying,

1115
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 8>she h, my family.

1116
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 7>Has a bunch of problems between cousins, siblings, stuff like that,

1117
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 7>because I listen to what she tells me and like

1118
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:40.599
<v Speaker 7>she does back us up compared to my other cousins.

1119
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:44.840
<v Speaker 7>But she won't say it to a Dina because I

1120
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 7>guess she has a boundary between her and my wife.

1121
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 6>So why do you think that is why do you

1122
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 6>think your mom is acting this way towards your wife?

1123
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:55.360
<v Speaker 8>To be honest, I'm not too sure.

1124
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 7>She likes to keep herself like at a certain standing

1125
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 7>point where she she doesn't want to be too appreciated,

1126
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 7>but she doesn't want to be too like like controlling.

1127
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.440
<v Speaker 10>I would see, Okay, I don't know the work to

1128
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 10>put for it.

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00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 6>I have one more question, and then a husband, if

1130
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.679
<v Speaker 6>you want to jump in you can. What are the

1131
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 6>things that you have said to your mom behind the

1132
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 6>closed door to try and let her know that what

1133
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 6>she's doing is not okay.

1134
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 7>I've told her that a lot of the stuff that

1135
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 7>when it comes to like the medical stuff, that yeah,

1136
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 7>a lot of places aren't trying to help her out,

1137
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 7>and we're trying different not areas, but like insurances try

1138
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 7>to work with her because a lot of places apparently

1139
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 7>she doesn't meet the credentials or the criteria that need

1140
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.880
<v Speaker 7>it for their support for their insurance.

1141
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 8>And I've told her plenty of times that we're still

1142
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:06.639
<v Speaker 8>working on this.

1143
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.320
<v Speaker 7>If I when I move up, we're going to try

1144
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:14.440
<v Speaker 7>to go to like a better insurance policy or health

1145
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 7>policy that way they could help her with the benefits

1146
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 7>that she needs.

1147
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I see you over there writing.

1148
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was trying to think of how to word

1149
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 4>this on paper, and I think I've got enough written

1150
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 4>down that I'm not gonna forget it, so it doesn't matter.

1151
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 3>You can go.

1152
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 4>So I'm curious, does your mom and grandmother help you

1153
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.159
<v Speaker 4>guys financially because of ADDIE's illnesses? Or is this a

1154
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:41.719
<v Speaker 4>like how does that look for you guys?

1155
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 8>I forgot to mention this before my grandma had passed

1156
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:48.760
<v Speaker 8>away years back.

1157
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, so she's not obviously not an issue anymore then, No,

1158
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 4>So then why did that?

1159
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:58.840
<v Speaker 11>It's more like, since since I didn't know my grandma,

1160
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 11>my wife didn't know her, I know how she acts

1161
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:09.360
<v Speaker 11>and how she is, uh like in the way of

1162
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 11>seeing how my grandma was.

1163
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that makes sense why she was brought up and

1164
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't figure out where there was a correlation. Okay,

1165
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 4>So does is your mom helping you guys out financially?

1166
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Is there any type of transactional things going on in

1167
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 4>between the two of you?

1168
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 8>So before it was when I was.

1169
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 7>The previous job I had, it was barely covering all

1170
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 7>her our bills and a lot of the stuff that

1171
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:37.880
<v Speaker 7>we needed was mainly.

1172
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 8>For like gas, so that way I could get to

1173
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:41.280
<v Speaker 8>work and get.

1174
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 7>Back And that was mainly the biggest thing, was helping

1175
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Speaker 7>us with gas money.

1176
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 7>Before that, before I got the job, it was I

1178
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 7>was laid off of.

1179
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 8>Work because oh, I mean, I'll get to that.

1180
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 7>Before I had, I had lost my job when I

1181
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:08.880
<v Speaker 7>was working with Walmart, one of the bigger companies. I

1182
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.559
<v Speaker 7>was asking around with my families if they could help

1183
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:14.920
<v Speaker 7>me out, you know, and I'll do stuff in exchange.

1184
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 7>A lot of that stuff was just you know, yard

1185
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 7>work or small uh. Aaron runs with them and they

1186
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 7>would help us out that way. And that was before

1187
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 7>I had. Like I said, I had lost my job

1188
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 7>when she was working, but she still wasn't getting enough money,

1189
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 7>so it was only enough to get us through.

1190
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 8>Some of my bills.

1191
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So is that the biggest Is that still happening?

1192
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.440
<v Speaker 4>And have you paid that debt off? Or was the

1193
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 4>transactions forgiven as work completed paid?

1194
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.679
<v Speaker 7>So I'm still working off some of the uh the

1195
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 7>amount that we borrowed from her.

1196
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 8>A lot of the.

1197
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:03.639
<v Speaker 7>Transactions is only me helping out with yard work on

1198
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 7>my days off or if she needs she needs someone

1199
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 7>to go with her to pick up my nephew or

1200
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 7>my brother from my nephew from school, or my younger

1201
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 7>brother from work if she doesn't have the time to

1202
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 7>go get them, or if she's not in the the area.

1203
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.840
<v Speaker 7>Because she still takes care of my grandpa and because

1204
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 7>she's the only one doing it, so she'll ask me

1205
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:37.599
<v Speaker 7>in return, and in that return, it's paying off some

1206
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 7>of the debt that we owe her.

1207
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, So it's important to not owe people things.

1208
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.360
<v Speaker 4>So I'm glad that you're actually working to do that.

1209
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 4>If there's also an honor in being able to be

1210
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:50.960
<v Speaker 4>there for your elders, like real shit, there's a lot

1211
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:52.519
<v Speaker 4>of respect in that for me, So good on you

1212
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 4>on that. You also have to understand that you doing

1213
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:57.679
<v Speaker 4>the things that you're doing for your elders and being

1214
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 4>a part of your family the way that you are

1215
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.679
<v Speaker 4>is it makes you an asset to your family, and

1216
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people don't realize that it does give

1217
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.880
<v Speaker 4>you a little bit of leverage that you otherwise may

1218
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.880
<v Speaker 4>not have had earlier. When you were talking, you said

1219
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.320
<v Speaker 4>that that your mom talks about your cousins to you,

1220
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 4>and she kind of defends you. Guys, to a degree.

1221
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 4>If somebody gossips to you, they'll gossip about you, and

1222
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 4>that's important to remember as well. There's a whole lot

1223
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 4>of everything that's gone on in is call, like there's

1224
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.239
<v Speaker 4>been a lot of good back and forth and information given,

1225
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 4>I believe, But I also think that the biggest lesson

1226
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:30.559
<v Speaker 4>that the two of you need to have here is

1227
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.039
<v Speaker 4>a united front about how you're going to conduct yourselves

1228
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:38.280
<v Speaker 4>marriage wise. Your mom being somebody that is just a boisterous,

1229
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 4>hot air breather, and you've experienced that your entire life.

1230
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 4>That's just who she is, and you have accepted her

1231
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:48.719
<v Speaker 4>for that. Your wife has not. So there's got to

1232
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 4>be a level of when she's giving unwarranted opinions, where

1233
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 4>she's saying things that your wife may view as disrespectful,

1234
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 4>even if she's not there, you have to correct that

1235
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 4>behavior in the moment. Mom, I'm not going to allow

1236
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you to talk to my wife or about my wife

1237
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 4>that way. I would appreciate it if you stopped. It's polite.

1238
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 4>It will start to correct that behavior, and it'll carry

1239
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 4>you over into the interactions that your wife has real shit.

1240
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Beyond that, there's not a whole lot of advice that

1241
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 4>we can give you guys in terms of what's going

1242
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 4>on in this relationship thing other than you both need

1243
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.599
<v Speaker 4>to have a united front about the marriage to everyone

1244
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.559
<v Speaker 4>that's got an opinion, a disrespect, or anything else that

1245
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.119
<v Speaker 4>goes on. It needs to be the two of you

1246
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:30.599
<v Speaker 4>versus the world Robanni and Clyde shit like that's I

1247
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:32.239
<v Speaker 4>gotta be honest. At this point, I feel like we've

1248
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 4>exhausted the parent thing quite a bit and I don't

1249
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 4>want to keep harping on it. We've been an hour,

1250
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 4>and if there's other things I want to get into,

1251
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 4>get into them. I know that you were making notes though,

1252
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:41.079
<v Speaker 4>so if you've got things to run through, let's run

1253
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 4>through that and then let's move to the next topic.

1254
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 6>The last thing that I want to say to that

1255
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 6>is correcting your mom doesn't, like we said in the beginning,

1256
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 6>doesn't have to be this volcano eruption, destructive, life ending conversation.

1257
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 6>It is a gentle correction of mom, don't talk about

1258
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.639
<v Speaker 6>my wife that way, and then continuing onward if she

1259
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 6>tries to pick a fight, Mom, I'm not mad at you,

1260
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm not yelling at you. I'm just gently letting you

1261
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 6>know that we've talked about this, and I don't want

1262
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 6>you talk about my wife like that.

1263
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I love you.

1264
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:14.199
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go finish doing the yard stuff, and if

1265
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 6>you're frustrated, we can talk about it when you're.

1266
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Not frustrated anymore.

1267
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.239
<v Speaker 2>There it is, and.

1268
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 3>Then go do your thing.

1269
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:24.599
<v Speaker 6>People who gossip and shit talk and nitpick and pull

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01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 6>people apart are not okay people. There is some deep

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01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:36.760
<v Speaker 6>rooted darkness that that stems from. And your corrections of

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01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 6>your mom might be the light that needs to be

1273
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 6>shine on these things for her to recognize that she

1274
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:43.599
<v Speaker 6>is being a detriment to her family as a matriarch.

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01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 4>There you go, well said, and the matriarch word good

1276
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:51.800
<v Speaker 4>timing for that. I normally don't like those terms. Yeah yeah,

1277
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.079
<v Speaker 4>good on that, baby. What else do you guys got?

1278
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 4>You guys have other things that you want to try

1279
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:57.159
<v Speaker 4>to get through.

1280
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:05.519
<v Speaker 5>My other bakes and it's just really communication on how

1281
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 5>he's feeling, and like him talking to me about those

1282
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 5>emotions so I can understand because he I feel he

1283
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:21.239
<v Speaker 5>really struggles to tell me, hey, I'm mad because you

1284
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.880
<v Speaker 5>did this, or I'm I'm he lets them like he

1285
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 5>just pushes everything down until he's he explodes at some

1286
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 5>point in some way, whether that's having a panic attack

1287
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 5>or having a nightmare or whatever the case, and I

1288
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 5>just worry about his mental health because of it. And

1289
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how else I can help, because I'm

1290
01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:48.599
<v Speaker 5>not a man, and I know that that's a different

1291
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Speaker 5>experience than what I've been through.

1292
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 3>So real shit.

1293
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.360
<v Speaker 6>After an hour and a half talking about his mom,

1294
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 6>I can see why he's like that.

1295
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Yep, a whole lot of training.

1296
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's not just his mom.

1297
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 4>It's the way that you guys interact with each other.

1298
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Earlier when I was like, I want to hear you speak,

1299
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:07.280
<v Speaker 4>regardless of you mumbling or or not having the words, Like,

1300
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:10.599
<v Speaker 4>there's a power in your voice. When you guys give

1301
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 4>your power away and let other people speak for you,

1302
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 4>you become recluse. Like you know that, you catch the vibe,

1303
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 4>you get what I'm saying, and you just kind of

1304
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 4>quit talking.

1305
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's it's not the same thing.

1306
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 3>You're shutting yourself down.

1307
01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:22.079
<v Speaker 7>Right.

1308
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 4>We have conversations on the podcast all the time about

1309
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 4>couples not having honest conversations. You guys will have a

1310
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.920
<v Speaker 4>conversation and you will beat around the bush and you

1311
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 4>will put so much sugar on the thing that it's

1312
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 4>just sweet now, and it's not the fucking bitterness that

1313
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:36.800
<v Speaker 4>needs to be had. And I'm not saying you need

1314
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.440
<v Speaker 4>to fight, but you need to be fucking honest with

1315
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:40.679
<v Speaker 4>each other. And if you're not okay with the way

1316
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 4>things were said, or you don't feel good when somebody

1317
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 4>goes to bed without the other person or whatever whatever whatever,

1318
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 4>it needs to be like, Hey, I don't like that. Yeah,

1319
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:51.719
<v Speaker 4>what do you mean? You don't like that? This happened.

1320
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:53.800
<v Speaker 4>This is how I feel, and I don't like the

1321
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:57.239
<v Speaker 4>way I feel right now. Most people aren't told that

1322
01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.320
<v Speaker 4>that's okay. We're told to suck at the fuck up,

1323
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 4>shut ups down, pick yourself up by the bootstraps, get

1324
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:02.639
<v Speaker 4>to work.

1325
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Men, don't cry. We don't want to hear it.

1326
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Nobody's got time for your nonsense. Boohoo, you fucking sissy.

1327
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's that's the life of man. Whereas women are

1328
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 4>told to express themselves and to communicate and have effective

1329
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 4>communication because you know, you, guys are allowed to cry

1330
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 4>and that's that's a weapon, and that's a tool, and

1331
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 4>it's all these other things and we're not allowed doing

1332
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.479
<v Speaker 4>of that. Shit, and if we get upset, now we're

1333
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 4>an asshole or a narcissist or an aggressor, so like

1334
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.319
<v Speaker 4>we have to tiptoe around things. It's very different for

1335
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 4>a man's emotional state, mental state than it is for

1336
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 4>a woman because of the way that we're raised. There's

1337
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 4>a whole lot of you train your person on how

1338
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 4>to deal with you. And the first time I was

1339
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 4>emotional with my wife, or I cried, or you know whatever,

1340
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the first time she saw me in pain, whatever, whatever, whatever,

1341
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Every single one of those firsts are an opportunity. Were

1342
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:53.439
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity for her to show me how I am

1343
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 4>able to be with her. If I was vulnerable, I

1344
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.479
<v Speaker 4>hate that term, it's not the right term. But if

1345
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.399
<v Speaker 4>I was in a moment of weakness and she got

1346
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:04.159
<v Speaker 4>exposed to that, her reaction to that thing tells me

1347
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.359
<v Speaker 4>exactly how I am. If I feel like I'm being

1348
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.600
<v Speaker 4>looked down on, if it feels like she sees me

1349
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 4>as less than you're not getting a side of me anymore,

1350
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll fucking break my femur bone and I'm gonna walk

1351
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 4>that shit off and go cry in the car away

1352
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.000
<v Speaker 4>from everyone, because you show me that you're gonna look

1353
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.079
<v Speaker 4>down on me or think less of me because of

1354
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 4>these things, every one of those instances. It only takes

1355
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:28.039
<v Speaker 4>once for that to change the way that you conduct

1356
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.840
<v Speaker 4>yourself in your marriage or around other people, especially with men.

1357
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 4>So you have to train him to be And training

1358
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.319
<v Speaker 4>is such a bad word. It's like we're dogs. But

1359
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:40.079
<v Speaker 4>the truth of the matter is everything in life is training.

1360
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.039
<v Speaker 4>We're animals, right. Learning to speak is training.

1361
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Body training.

1362
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So when things come up and he is not

1363
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.880
<v Speaker 4>having a good day, you saying, hey, I can tell

1364
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.439
<v Speaker 4>you're mad. Well, what if he's not and you just

1365
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.800
<v Speaker 4>think that because you're feeling insecure in the moment. Now

1366
01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:59.800
<v Speaker 4>you've assumed some shit. You've told him how he's felt,

1367
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 4>because he's not used to speaking for himself. I'm assuming

1368
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 4>obviously this is hypothetical. He doesn't correct it. He's just like, no,

1369
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm okay, And that's the end of the conversation. I'm

1370
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:10.600
<v Speaker 4>not mad, I promise I'm that mad. Well, what about

1371
01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:12.800
<v Speaker 4>the depression or the sadness, or the fucked up conversation

1372
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 4>you have with the boss or maybe the mom and

1373
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 4>him got into an argument earlier, Like there's a whole

1374
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.279
<v Speaker 4>lot of you need to probe and not assume. Hey,

1375
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:21.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like the energy in the house is

1376
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:23.720
<v Speaker 4>right right now, what's going on? Talk to me, you know,

1377
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:28.600
<v Speaker 4>be available and shut the fuck up, ask the question

1378
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 4>and sit there for forty five minutes and complete silence

1379
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:33.119
<v Speaker 4>if you have to, and if it doesn't get answered,

1380
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:35.199
<v Speaker 4>and be like, hey, I know you've been pondering it.

1381
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:37.600
<v Speaker 4>You talk about it, yeah, And if he says no,

1382
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.000
<v Speaker 4>then you just got to leave it alone. But you

1383
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 4>have to be able to give the opportunity for that

1384
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 4>habitual pattern of life to be broken. And it started

1385
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.239
<v Speaker 4>with mom and it's continued so like, And this isn't

1386
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 4>a fuck you to either one of you, guys. I'm

1387
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 4>not being nasty. This is just simple behavioral modifications that's

1388
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 4>going to improve your life.

1389
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1390
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.479
<v Speaker 6>I have a question for Hovey. Are you well versed

1391
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:06.640
<v Speaker 6>in your emotions? Can you identify that bothered me? I

1392
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.359
<v Speaker 6>don't like the way that that felt fill in the

1393
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:12.520
<v Speaker 6>blank or do you like, oh, I don't like that.

1394
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:14.119
<v Speaker 6>And then just kind of like shoven under a rugger

1395
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:19.680
<v Speaker 6>into a bottle kind of folds are your emotions and

1396
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:26.119
<v Speaker 6>inconvenience to you, very your emotions will never go away

1397
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 6>and until you learn how to interpret right, because our

1398
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.880
<v Speaker 6>emotions are not just something that we feel that is

1399
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.680
<v Speaker 6>a signal from our body telling our minds that something

1400
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:39.720
<v Speaker 6>is not okay. A boundary was crossed. You let yourself

1401
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 6>dip below your standard or expectations for yourself fill in

1402
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 6>the blank for whatever causes the negative emotion. You continuing

1403
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.840
<v Speaker 6>to ignore your emotions inside of you because you don't

1404
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 6>have the time to deal with them, or you have

1405
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:52.439
<v Speaker 6>life shit going on, or you have to take care

1406
01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:54.520
<v Speaker 6>of your woman and I can't handle this right now.

1407
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.279
<v Speaker 6>You are neglecting yourself and you're training your nervous system

1408
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:01.119
<v Speaker 6>that you cannot be trust with you, and in turn,

1409
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.560
<v Speaker 6>you're becoming your own abuser. You got to sit with

1410
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.199
<v Speaker 6>your emotions, man. You have to identify the things that

1411
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.520
<v Speaker 6>don't sit right with your soul, the things that bother you,

1412
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 6>and you need to communicate it.

1413
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:12.439
<v Speaker 3>And if your.

1414
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:16.119
<v Speaker 6>Wife takes it poorly, or your coworker takes it poorly,

1415
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 6>or whomever this this is coming up with, their reaction

1416
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 6>is not your problem.

1417
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And your delivery is Yes.

1418
01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:27.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1419
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 6>One of the best things about being married to somebody

1420
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.720
<v Speaker 6>is that they actually give a fuck about you and

1421
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 6>you have a woman here who is looking at you

1422
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 6>and saying, I want to help you heal all of

1423
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 6>the shit that's broken inside of you because you deserve

1424
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 6>so much more out of life. And by ignoring that,

1425
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:46.600
<v Speaker 6>not only are you suppressing something for her yourself, you

1426
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:50.319
<v Speaker 6>are denying her the opportunity to spread love and joy.

1427
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 6>And if you guys have faith or religion, that that's

1428
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 6>the whole fucking point. We're here to be loving like

1429
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:02.279
<v Speaker 6>Christ was, to share and serve and be of service. Now,

1430
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:04.079
<v Speaker 6>let me ask you this. Do you feel like you're

1431
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 6>a burden to your wife if you are emotional?

1432
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:09.880
<v Speaker 8>Sometimes? Yeah?

1433
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.199
<v Speaker 6>Is that because of the way that she responds to you?

1434
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:14.520
<v Speaker 6>Or is that just the way you've you've been taught

1435
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.840
<v Speaker 6>that men are to women if they're emotional.

1436
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Be honest, Yeah, be honest, Yeah, honestly, more of that's

1437
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 4>how we're taught.

1438
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 8>Less like slight amount of the way she is.

1439
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 6>Okay, So just that slight amount we can say it's

1440
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.199
<v Speaker 6>point zero zero two percent means they're still work to

1441
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:40.640
<v Speaker 6>be done right. So what does that look like when

1442
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 6>you try to bring something right? And this is not

1443
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:44.920
<v Speaker 6>an attack on your woman, Addie, This is not putting

1444
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:48.640
<v Speaker 6>you in a bad light. This is the feedback to

1445
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:52.159
<v Speaker 6>get what you want out of your man. So that

1446
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 6>point zero zero two percent, what does that feel like

1447
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 6>for you when that does happen?

1448
01:13:57.880 --> 01:13:59.159
<v Speaker 3>And what is it that she does?

1449
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Speaker 12>So a lot of times it's well, as you guys

1450
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 12>can see as the interrupting, it's when I can't like

1451
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.479
<v Speaker 12>really want to express myself.

1452
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 8>So when she.

1453
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 7>When she like talks over me, it just makes me

1454
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 7>shut down even more than.

1455
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:42.079
<v Speaker 8>What I was taught Addie.

1456
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 4>This isn't a feel bad moment. This is data collection.

1457
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.800
<v Speaker 4>These are the honest conversations when we do check ins

1458
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.600
<v Speaker 4>that we want real shit. The fact that he just

1459
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.479
<v Speaker 4>said that in front of you, live, in front of

1460
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 4>the people that we're on and this is going to

1461
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.079
<v Speaker 4>be on a podcast. This shows that he trusts you

1462
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 4>and this is an opportunity for you to grow in love.

1463
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.239
<v Speaker 4>You're fucking man like this. These are the conversations that

1464
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.239
<v Speaker 4>you have at bedtime where you think the person for

1465
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.520
<v Speaker 4>being honest with you, even though it's suck to hear.

1466
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:10.560
<v Speaker 4>This is how we fucking improve guys.

1467
01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so with you, I agree with that. I didn't

1468
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.199
<v Speaker 5>realize you were already speaking. It's there's a little bit

1469
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:25.319
<v Speaker 5>of lag. My bad, uh, Peaches, But I am sorry

1470
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.600
<v Speaker 5>if I ever made you feel like you could not

1471
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.279
<v Speaker 5>tell me any hard truth. It's just like when we

1472
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:38.399
<v Speaker 5>were having issues a year and a half ago. I

1473
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:42.720
<v Speaker 5>need to know the whole truth. I need all of

1474
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:46.640
<v Speaker 5>the information so that I can help to the fullest

1475
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 5>of my ability, because if something is left out, even

1476
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.520
<v Speaker 5>if it hurts my feelings and I have to sit

1477
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:56.560
<v Speaker 5>there for a minute and think about my actions, that's

1478
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 5>something I have to do because it's gonna help our marriage,

1479
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:04.680
<v Speaker 5>and it's gonna help you. And that's my job as

1480
01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 5>your wife and helping you to identify those emotions. And

1481
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.279
<v Speaker 5>even when it's hard to tell me, I need you

1482
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:19.359
<v Speaker 5>to tell me anyways, and realize that no matter what

1483
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:22.239
<v Speaker 5>you tell me, at the end of the day, you're

1484
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:26.119
<v Speaker 5>still my person. It's not gonna change.

1485
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 6>So with all of that being said, I'm assuming that

1486
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.840
<v Speaker 6>something that's been said before because of the conviction that's

1487
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.000
<v Speaker 6>been said with I'm gonna read this first because I

1488
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000
<v Speaker 6>wrote down something so Addie, as a woman, you need

1489
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:42.079
<v Speaker 6>to understand what he needs from you emotionally. So him

1490
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:46.239
<v Speaker 6>saying now that the interruptions are a problem. He just

1491
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.239
<v Speaker 6>voiced what he needs from you emotionally in order to

1492
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:51.199
<v Speaker 6>step into what you want him to be or how

1493
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:52.840
<v Speaker 6>open you want him to be as a husband.

1494
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I love everything that you just said.

1495
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.760
<v Speaker 6>I agree with everything you just said as a wife

1496
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.039
<v Speaker 6>at the end of the day, all of it. But

1497
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.319
<v Speaker 6>that also goes hand in hand with when he does

1498
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:04.960
<v Speaker 6>bring it up in the moment, you have to monitor

1499
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:09.039
<v Speaker 6>your reaction versus your response. So if you're saying that

1500
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.479
<v Speaker 6>he needs to bring these things to you and fill

1501
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:15.439
<v Speaker 6>in the blank, you also have to accept it in

1502
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.079
<v Speaker 6>the moment and not try to be defensive or try

1503
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:23.159
<v Speaker 6>to backtrack or over explain to control the narrative. I'm

1504
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 6>not saying that you do do that, but to plant

1505
01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:27.760
<v Speaker 6>the seed of you and anybody who may be listening

1506
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:31.840
<v Speaker 6>to that hovey with everything that Addie just said, do

1507
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 6>you believe that to be true? Because right now we're calm.

1508
01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:37.239
<v Speaker 6>This is a calm conversation. Emotions are nice in a

1509
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:42.960
<v Speaker 6>homeostasis when there are elevated emotions and our IQ drops.

1510
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.079
<v Speaker 6>This is scientifically proven. When we are not in our

1511
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.560
<v Speaker 6>emotional homeostasis and we start getting elevated, our URQ begins

1512
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:48.880
<v Speaker 6>to drop.

1513
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Because our energy is allocated elsewhere.

1514
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.319
<v Speaker 6>Do you feel like that is an accurate statement and

1515
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:56.600
<v Speaker 6>that you can voice in the moment, like, hey, you've

1516
01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.279
<v Speaker 6>spoken over me. Can I finish my sentence? Whatever the

1517
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:00.840
<v Speaker 6>case may be.

1518
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:07.399
<v Speaker 7>Pretty much, yeah, Because no matter what, even if we'll

1519
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.600
<v Speaker 7>get into an argument, I'm never gonna tell her that

1520
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:13.800
<v Speaker 7>I don't love her. It maybe be a time when

1521
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.600
<v Speaker 7>she's out of it that I'll still say I love you,

1522
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:21.520
<v Speaker 7>Or there'll be a time when before I go to

1523
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:25.880
<v Speaker 7>work that if she's still mad at me and we're

1524
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:29.119
<v Speaker 7>not talking much, I will still say I love you.

1525
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Good good.

1526
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:31.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1527
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to rephrase my question a little bit. No,

1528
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:35.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to rephrase my question. I'm gonna ask

1529
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.239
<v Speaker 6>a different question than the husband. You can take the

1530
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 6>floor in moments where you are trying to express how

1531
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:45.000
<v Speaker 6>you're feeling and she interrupts or she we can say

1532
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 6>bulldozer or whatever the case may be, or starts to

1533
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 6>speak for you. Have you ever said, yeah, you just

1534
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.039
<v Speaker 6>interrupted me, let me finish my sentence. That's not my thought,

1535
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:00.279
<v Speaker 6>whatever the case may be, I have Okay, And how

1536
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:01.680
<v Speaker 6>does that usually play out?

1537
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:07.199
<v Speaker 7>Usually it turns out turns into one of us being

1538
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:08.840
<v Speaker 7>angry over one another.

1539
01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.600
<v Speaker 6>So everything that Addie just said about you need to

1540
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 6>come to me and tell me the truth and all

1541
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 6>those kinds of things and heightened emotions that still may

1542
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:22.520
<v Speaker 6>be true, but that's not what's happening. It sounds like

1543
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:25.680
<v Speaker 6>there is a punishment for the honesty because it's taken personally,

1544
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 6>and that's something that has to be resolved or the

1545
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.119
<v Speaker 6>things that you just said are not true. There is

1546
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:32.680
<v Speaker 6>no action follow up behind it.

1547
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Y'all. When we are in.

1548
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 6>Conversations and we were like, hey, I don't like that.

1549
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 6>You need to take a step back and not take

1550
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.239
<v Speaker 6>it personally and recognize that your person is trying to

1551
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.000
<v Speaker 6>fix the relationship. Because if this is not something that's addressed,

1552
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:45.399
<v Speaker 6>resentment's gonna build.

1553
01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:47.880
<v Speaker 3>You need you don't need.

1554
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:48.119
<v Speaker 5>Well.

1555
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:52.520
<v Speaker 6>I would highly recommend a safe word for conversations. So

1556
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:58.479
<v Speaker 6>low quat, Zucchini, Teddy Bear, I just you just interrupted me.

1557
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.359
<v Speaker 6>Addie can say, I like I'm not being heard. I

1558
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 6>feel like you're shutting down emotionally, whatever the case.

1559
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:03.479
<v Speaker 3>Movie.

1560
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.520
<v Speaker 6>Once Zucchini has said, it is understood that there was

1561
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 6>a boundary crossed within the relationship and we are now

1562
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 6>going to take a forty five minute break to calm

1563
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:13.039
<v Speaker 6>back down before we come back and revisit and try

1564
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:16.880
<v Speaker 6>to solve what's going on. Resolution will not be found

1565
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:18.039
<v Speaker 6>in conflict.

1566
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I've heard you say that before, and I really agree

1567
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 5>with it. But I think something that I need to

1568
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 5>mention and that maybe my husband isn't realizing, is that

1569
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 5>if he thinks back to less than six months ago,

1570
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:45.720
<v Speaker 5>I was when we were, not that we've had many arguments.

1571
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:49.239
<v Speaker 5>As of recently, the last few I would say three

1572
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:53.399
<v Speaker 5>ish months, maybe maybe a little longer. We haven't had

1573
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 5>really many any disagreements. The only time I would interrub

1574
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 5>would be at by accident and then immediately apologize. But like, hey,

1575
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.399
<v Speaker 5>I have this thought in the middle of a conversation.

1576
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.720
<v Speaker 5>So I've really been working on interrupting and listening to

1577
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 5>what many times that I would say that is not

1578
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.439
<v Speaker 5>accurate is if he immediate, if he if something he

1579
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:24.720
<v Speaker 5>says triggers my trauma, trauma from paths where it kind

1580
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:27.680
<v Speaker 5>of like takes me out for a minute and I

1581
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:31.399
<v Speaker 5>just kind of zone out. That's the only time sometimes

1582
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:35.640
<v Speaker 5>where I still struggle and I interrupt or like I

1583
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:38.039
<v Speaker 5>freak out a little bit. It just takes me a

1584
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 5>minute to kind of come back and be like, hey, no,

1585
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.600
<v Speaker 5>we're healthy, we're good, this is my husband, we're safe,

1586
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:47.920
<v Speaker 5>we're cool, you know, whatever the case. But just in

1587
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.039
<v Speaker 5>the last I would say, you know, ninety days, interrupting

1588
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:57.119
<v Speaker 5>has been it's been so much less than it was

1589
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:03.600
<v Speaker 5>been before I've been actively working on this, and I

1590
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:10.119
<v Speaker 5>feel like he's using the interruption as a crutch to

1591
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:15.560
<v Speaker 5>say that he can't express his emotions. But I've had

1592
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 5>him at night where he had a nightmare or he's

1593
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:25.119
<v Speaker 5>just in he's crying in in sleep, shaking, having a

1594
01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 5>panic attack, and I'm sitting there with him until he

1595
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:31.760
<v Speaker 5>comes out of it, just like he does to me.

1596
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.039
<v Speaker 5>And now these attacks have not happened, thankfully, in a while.

1597
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:40.760
<v Speaker 5>But I find that those happen the most when he's

1598
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:45.560
<v Speaker 5>hiding his emotions and I try to probe and I

1599
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:50.039
<v Speaker 5>just find he shuts down more and I can't I

1600
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:54.000
<v Speaker 5>can't find a way over that wall. And that's where

1601
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:58.600
<v Speaker 5>my struggle has been because I've been using these tips

1602
01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:02.600
<v Speaker 5>from your previous podcast and stuff in terms of communication skills,

1603
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:06.760
<v Speaker 5>and I'm just I'm not sure what I should do

1604
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:12.000
<v Speaker 5>next because those probing questions not automatically assuming his emotion.

1605
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:17.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't assume he's angry, mad, happy, sad anything. I'm specific,

1606
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:21.439
<v Speaker 5>try to be as specific as possible, ask how he's

1607
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:26.000
<v Speaker 5>feeling things like that, and I still find he won't

1608
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:31.159
<v Speaker 5>communicate with me in less about his emotions unless he's

1609
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 5>he's bubbling over already, and I want that part to

1610
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.039
<v Speaker 5>stop happening and to heal that.

1611
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:39.600
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1612
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:43.000
<v Speaker 4>You want to go or you want me to. Okay,

1613
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.199
<v Speaker 4>I have a whole lot to touch on before we

1614
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.720
<v Speaker 4>go any further. You said a whole lot of things

1615
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 4>that I had wrote down, and I love that we're

1616
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:51.680
<v Speaker 4>on the same page of a lot of shit. Yeah,

1617
01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:52.920
<v Speaker 4>you covered a whole lot of things that I don't

1618
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:54.439
<v Speaker 4>have to cover, but I still want to cover some things.

1619
01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:55.960
<v Speaker 4>The other thing that I want to get into is

1620
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to remind you guys again that this is

1621
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:02.840
<v Speaker 4>very healthy communication right now, Like you're learning and you're evolving,

1622
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 4>and I know I can hear it in your voice

1623
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:06.880
<v Speaker 4>that there is a little bit of tension happening right now.

1624
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:08.479
<v Speaker 4>You need to take a breath and let that shit go,

1625
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 4>because this is healthy growth. This is how we learn

1626
01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 4>to communicate effectively. You said that you probe, and you

1627
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:16.720
<v Speaker 4>do the tips that we do, but what you're failing

1628
01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 4>to do is properly communicate. Negated everything that he said,

1629
01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:26.960
<v Speaker 4>you then removed his reality. If we were standing in

1630
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.159
<v Speaker 4>a field together and you were convinced that a flower

1631
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.319
<v Speaker 4>there was pink, and I was like, nope, it's a

1632
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:35.760
<v Speaker 4>yellow magenta. It's not even real color, just making it up,

1633
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.239
<v Speaker 4>and you're like, nope, it's pink, and I tried to

1634
01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:41.920
<v Speaker 4>convince you otherwise. Your reality is that that fucking flower

1635
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.520
<v Speaker 4>is pink, and if I see it as yellow magenta,

1636
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.239
<v Speaker 4>it's yellow magenta. It doesn't mean that you're right. It

1637
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean that I'm right. It means that we are

1638
01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 4>viewing the world differently. He told you how he feels

1639
01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:58.199
<v Speaker 4>you took the last four years condensed into what's happening

1640
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.399
<v Speaker 4>in the past ninety days, as if that negates the

1641
01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:04.680
<v Speaker 4>other three years and seven months of your life, three

1642
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:08.960
<v Speaker 4>years and nine months of your life, and that things

1643
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.600
<v Speaker 4>are just better now, regardless of real shit. I'm glad

1644
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:14.199
<v Speaker 4>that you've been making efforts. I'm glad that you two

1645
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:17.479
<v Speaker 4>are communicated and trying. But just because things are different

1646
01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:22.079
<v Speaker 4>now doesn't mean that the expressions the feelings, the built

1647
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:26.039
<v Speaker 4>up resentment, the insecurities, the training that has been there

1648
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:28.560
<v Speaker 4>is going to go away. Ivy was trained by a

1649
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 4>dog trainer three or four years ago, and she still

1650
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 4>does all of the commands that she was given, even

1651
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:35.359
<v Speaker 4>though she doesn't have to live that life anymore, because

1652
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:38.199
<v Speaker 4>that's been instilled in her. I have a whole lot

1653
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:40.000
<v Speaker 4>of notes, so I'm gonna just run through them real quick.

1654
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.439
<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask her to repeat back what

1655
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:45.760
<v Speaker 4>he said, and then you did it like four times,

1656
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.079
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, there goes that one. So

1657
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:50.159
<v Speaker 4>I want you guys to start repeating back to each

1658
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:52.439
<v Speaker 4>other what was said. The next thing is is you

1659
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.880
<v Speaker 4>have to fucking let him talk. Yes, there needs to

1660
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.640
<v Speaker 4>be a safe word is coming, So we're gonna just

1661
01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:00.720
<v Speaker 4>jump into that as well. Like you said, there needs

1662
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>to be a safe word. There needs to be an

1663
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:05.880
<v Speaker 4>indicator of I'm done. There needs to be a pause

1664
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 4>if she starts talking and you're not finished yet, or

1665
01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:11.079
<v Speaker 4>you still have thoughts and she's going you can raise

1666
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>your hand. Something needs to be indicated that you're not

1667
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.640
<v Speaker 4>finished yet, so that she can write things down what

1668
01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:21.920
<v Speaker 4>she needs to address and then actively listen to what's

1669
01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:24.359
<v Speaker 4>going on, repeat things back, make sure that you understand

1670
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:28.520
<v Speaker 4>what's going on, and fucking hear each other. Your perception

1671
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 4>is your reality. His perception is his reality. The way

1672
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:37.880
<v Speaker 4>that you view the world is not going to be identical. Ever,

1673
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:42.680
<v Speaker 4>your live life experiences, your past traumas and triggers, past relationships,

1674
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:45.119
<v Speaker 4>live life experiences are going to dictate the way that

1675
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 4>you view things. Stop saying but when you were thank

1676
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:52.479
<v Speaker 4>you for telling me this is going to make a

1677
01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:56.720
<v Speaker 4>relationship better, blah blah blah blah blah. But everything that

1678
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.319
<v Speaker 4>you said before that butt was negated because you had

1679
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:01.079
<v Speaker 4>something else that had nothing to do with anything.

1680
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>So you you.

1681
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:07.439
<v Speaker 4>Wrote your repair. It was very very very nicely written

1682
01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:10.119
<v Speaker 4>on the board. It was underlined, exclamation points, grammar, and

1683
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:11.880
<v Speaker 4>shit was perfect and you said button. You just wipe

1684
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 4>that shit right the fuck off. So it didn't even

1685
01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:16.000
<v Speaker 4>have time to sit before you started going on with

1686
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:18.479
<v Speaker 4>the other things. If somebody comes to you and says, hey,

1687
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:19.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't like the way this makes me feel, or

1688
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:23.079
<v Speaker 4>this is what I'm going through, there's a lot of

1689
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:25.039
<v Speaker 4>people who have the urge to go well, that's not

1690
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:28.039
<v Speaker 4>what I meant, or I was only intending this or

1691
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:29.560
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to do that. Blah blah blah blah blah.

1692
01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:30.800
<v Speaker 4>The only thing that you need to say. And this

1693
01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.279
<v Speaker 4>is so fucking hard. It was a lot for us.

1694
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:37.159
<v Speaker 4>It's still hard for me because I want to fix everything. Okay,

1695
01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:40.279
<v Speaker 4>this is what I'm hearing. That sounds like it really sucks,

1696
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:41.800
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sorry that I did that to you. I'll

1697
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:44.159
<v Speaker 4>work on it, and then new journal about it, and

1698
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:45.319
<v Speaker 4>you think about what you want to say. In a

1699
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:46.600
<v Speaker 4>couple of days, come back and be like, hey, I've

1700
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:47.880
<v Speaker 4>been really thinking about what you said, and I can

1701
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:49.079
<v Speaker 4>see this in da da da da da, and then

1702
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:50.039
<v Speaker 4>you can have a discussion about it.

1703
01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>But in the moment, they don't need that shit. They

1704
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>need to be heard.

1705
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.199
<v Speaker 4>And if if somebody is coming to you with a

1706
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:56.399
<v Speaker 4>problem and they are not able to get that problem

1707
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:58.079
<v Speaker 4>out and they're not able to be heard, you're showing

1708
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:00.880
<v Speaker 4>them that you're not, for a lack of a better turn,

1709
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.239
<v Speaker 4>you don't care right Like, they're not able to fully

1710
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:06.399
<v Speaker 4>express what's going on, You're not safe. I covered everything else.

1711
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:09.840
<v Speaker 4>I did all of that in one shot. Do you

1712
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:11.520
<v Speaker 4>have anything you write notes too?

1713
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:13.800
<v Speaker 6>I have a bunch of notes, but the one that's

1714
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.119
<v Speaker 6>most important to me is hobby. Do you agree with

1715
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 6>the perspective that over the last ninety days her interrupting

1716
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:19.920
<v Speaker 6>you has gotten better?

1717
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 8>Yes?

1718
01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, do you acknowledge that in the moment, it's like, hey,

1719
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate these things. Words of affirmations are a big deal.

1720
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:29.239
<v Speaker 4>It's like giving a dog a treat.

1721
01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so real quick. Going back to one of the

1722
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:35.199
<v Speaker 8>other topics, the.

1723
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:40.000
<v Speaker 7>Me treating her more than she wants to treat me,

1724
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:47.039
<v Speaker 7>I haven't really been feeling myself as been like I

1725
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.680
<v Speaker 7>want her to get me something nice.

1726
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:51.560
<v Speaker 8>Is more of I want her.

1727
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.600
<v Speaker 7>I want to get her stuff so that way, you know,

1728
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.479
<v Speaker 7>it makes me feel better that I'm giving her what

1729
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:00.479
<v Speaker 7>she needs.

1730
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:02.199
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

1731
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the duty of man.

1732
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:08.039
<v Speaker 6>And right tying that into the love languages, you are

1733
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:10.720
<v Speaker 6>not a gift receiver, You're a gift giver, and that's

1734
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 6>my husband.

1735
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Yep, real shit.

1736
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:15.760
<v Speaker 6>In the beginning, there was a level of I need

1737
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:18.239
<v Speaker 6>to give my husband gifts in return so that he

1738
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:20.840
<v Speaker 6>can see that I appreciate and value him just as

1739
01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:21.760
<v Speaker 6>much as he values me.

1740
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.119
<v Speaker 3>But you hated that shit. I remember once I got

1741
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>you two T shirts.

1742
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 7>I even wrote her a whole letter while I was

1743
01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:31.479
<v Speaker 7>at work because I had nothing to do for about

1744
01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:36.840
<v Speaker 7>six hours on like the whole reason of it, but

1745
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.000
<v Speaker 7>like it, it's mainly of just seeing her smile that's

1746
01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:41.720
<v Speaker 7>been making me feel better.

1747
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.800
<v Speaker 8>And I tell her that, like I don't need much.

1748
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 7>The only thing I need is like stuff that is

1749
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:53.560
<v Speaker 7>just like a monthly paint, subscription to things, just a soda.

1750
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:58.119
<v Speaker 7>That's literally all my me receiving a gift the nicest

1751
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:03.560
<v Speaker 7>of I go big for her when I can. Other

1752
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:05.720
<v Speaker 7>than that, it's like I don't want to chew to

1753
01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:11.119
<v Speaker 7>go big, just you know, I just need. I just

1754
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:12.239
<v Speaker 7>want this small thing.

1755
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

1756
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>What's this small thing that you want from her?

1757
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:21.000
<v Speaker 7>Uh So I'm a big gamer. So right now, it's

1758
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:27.359
<v Speaker 7>just the subscription for my monthly that that's literally the

1759
01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:28.359
<v Speaker 7>small gift.

1760
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:28.880
<v Speaker 8>That I accept.

1761
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to deviate too far away from the conversations, right,

1762
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:40.840
<v Speaker 6>like the the conversation conversation, but to go into right,

1763
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:44.640
<v Speaker 6>you're not a gift receiving guy, So what are other

1764
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:48.560
<v Speaker 6>ways that you would feel comfortable with your wife showing

1765
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.680
<v Speaker 6>her love and devotion and dedication appreciation towards you. Does

1766
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:55.720
<v Speaker 6>that look like dedicating two hours every Friday and cuddling

1767
01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:56.880
<v Speaker 6>on the couch and watching movies.

1768
01:30:56.920 --> 01:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, quality time?

1769
01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.720
<v Speaker 6>Does that look like putting the phones away for an

1770
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.720
<v Speaker 6>hour every Friday night and sitting down having super philosophical conversations.

1771
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:06.920
<v Speaker 3>What are other ways that she can express her love

1772
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:07.119
<v Speaker 3>to you?

1773
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:11.920
<v Speaker 7>So the way we used to do it was I

1774
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:16.920
<v Speaker 7>would have the weekends off, So Saturdays would usually be

1775
01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 7>the days that I would take my time just to

1776
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:24.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, relax myself from work, and Sundays would be

1777
01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 7>the days that we spend the whole day together. After

1778
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.800
<v Speaker 7>I've done laundry, after I made uspooon, we would sit down.

1779
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.359
<v Speaker 8>We would watch NonStop Enemy.

1780
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:37.520
<v Speaker 6>So you guys just have a bunch of quality time together. Yeah,

1781
01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 6>how has that changed?

1782
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:44.760
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's gonna be different now because it's not gonna

1783
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:46.239
<v Speaker 7>be weekends like we want it.

1784
01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 8>But because I had I got a promotion in my job.

1785
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:55.039
<v Speaker 8>So now it's one week I will have the weekends,

1786
01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:55.920
<v Speaker 8>one week I won't.

1787
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.880
<v Speaker 7>So there's still there's gonna be more quality time with

1788
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.840
<v Speaker 7>her on certain days.

1789
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:06.800
<v Speaker 8>That way, you know, we're more with each other than

1790
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:07.399
<v Speaker 8>we need to be.

1791
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:12.079
<v Speaker 5>I think my issue is is that lately, when we've

1792
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:17.239
<v Speaker 5>been having our quality time. I feel like it's only

1793
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.560
<v Speaker 5>like if you will partial quality time because we're watching

1794
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Naruto the animates to Prudence specifically, we're in the fourth War.

1795
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:31.720
<v Speaker 5>It's magical, but we'll be in that arc and he's

1796
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 5>on his phone while we're watching the show, and it

1797
01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 5>just to me, it doesn't feel as much as quality

1798
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:42.239
<v Speaker 5>time because he's he's not putting his like full effort

1799
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:47.279
<v Speaker 5>I guess into it. Whereas I'm like fully watching the show.

1800
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:51.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm not on my phone. I'm just you know, enjoying it.

1801
01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:55.960
<v Speaker 5>And I feel like that's where I feel like it's

1802
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:59.560
<v Speaker 5>enough because during that time, I feel like he's distracted.

1803
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.880
<v Speaker 6>So this is my husband and I yep, my husband

1804
01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:05.720
<v Speaker 6>could be totally engrossed in a show and he's going

1805
01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:07.520
<v Speaker 6>to have his phone in his hand, playing a game,

1806
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.880
<v Speaker 6>or checking emails or looking at business TikTok, whatever the

1807
01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 6>case may be. My my husband And this is just

1808
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.199
<v Speaker 6>from my perspective. I am not speaking for his existence

1809
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:22.439
<v Speaker 6>as his wife. This is how I right, because as

1810
01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:24.039
<v Speaker 6>humans we fill in the blanks and we fill in

1811
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:26.479
<v Speaker 6>with stories. The way that I view my husband and

1812
01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:28.479
<v Speaker 6>how his brain works, he has lived a life of

1813
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:33.720
<v Speaker 6>distraction and you know, through his childhood into adulthood, there

1814
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:38.960
<v Speaker 6>was a level of security in having multiple things going

1815
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:42.920
<v Speaker 6>on at once. You my husband gets very uncomfortable not

1816
01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:47.560
<v Speaker 6>having his hands doing something, so there is a level of.

1817
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Chaos.

1818
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:52.720
<v Speaker 6>We can say that he has become adapted to in

1819
01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 6>his life that if he is just sitting there with

1820
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:58.399
<v Speaker 6>one type of stimulation, it could increase his anxiety, it

1821
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.399
<v Speaker 6>could induce spiraling all of these other kinds of things.

1822
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:06.760
<v Speaker 6>So I totally get the perspective of he's disengaged right now.

1823
01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:09.560
<v Speaker 6>My husband and I've had multiple conversations of I feel

1824
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:11.840
<v Speaker 6>like you are not spending quality time with me because

1825
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:14.880
<v Speaker 6>you're engaged on your phone versus watching TV. And it's

1826
01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:18.079
<v Speaker 6>taken those multiple conversations and me being open to perspective

1827
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:20.560
<v Speaker 6>and different life experiences to understand that this is just

1828
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.399
<v Speaker 6>how my husband's brain works. Very rarely does he miss

1829
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:28.079
<v Speaker 6>what's going on in the show. There are times where

1830
01:34:28.079 --> 01:34:30.159
<v Speaker 6>he will be on his phone and I am actively

1831
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:31.720
<v Speaker 6>watching because I don't have my phone in my hand,

1832
01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:33.880
<v Speaker 6>and I will still have to ask him what just happened,

1833
01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:36.239
<v Speaker 6>and he can fill me in almost to a tea

1834
01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:39.800
<v Speaker 6>because he is more engaged because of what is going

1835
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 6>on with his hands, he can listen better versus what's

1836
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:43.039
<v Speaker 6>going on in his mind.

1837
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I love you, God, I fucking love you so much.

1838
01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I love you too.

1839
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:50.399
<v Speaker 4>There's a whole lot about everything that you said that

1840
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:51.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not even gonna get into it because a lot

1841
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:55.119
<v Speaker 4>of it it is personal, and that's our thing. You're

1842
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.279
<v Speaker 4>both engaged in something other than each other, and that's

1843
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.800
<v Speaker 4>how I view that. If you're very immersed in the

1844
01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 4>TV show and he's immersed in his phone, and you

1845
01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 4>guys are in the same room, if he's able to

1846
01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>still know what's going on in the show, you are

1847
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:10.359
<v Speaker 4>still doing that thing together. We get so caught up

1848
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:13.079
<v Speaker 4>in wanting people to do what we want them to

1849
01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:14.840
<v Speaker 4>do and live the way we want them to live

1850
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 4>that we fail to realize that there are different enjoyments

1851
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.880
<v Speaker 4>and different things. I could not be doing the same thing.

1852
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:22.760
<v Speaker 4>You could be playing video games, and I could be

1853
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.439
<v Speaker 4>laying on the couch next to you, and I'm having

1854
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 4>the time of my fucking life because we're in the

1855
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:31.279
<v Speaker 4>same room together, being lazy and enjoying ourselves. That matters

1856
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 4>more to me than watching a TV show I'm only

1857
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 4>half interested in. And that's part of being married. You're

1858
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:39.159
<v Speaker 4>not gonna be fully engaged in a show all the time.

1859
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.800
<v Speaker 4>We watch Fire Country, and like, after season one of

1860
01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:46.439
<v Speaker 4>that show, I lost all interest, and like I still

1861
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:50.279
<v Speaker 4>watched it because you enjoyed it, loved the final season

1862
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 4>or the final episode of the last season. I thoroughly

1863
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:56.000
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed that shit, But like, I watched that show because

1864
01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:58.079
<v Speaker 4>you want to watch that show. So if I'm playing

1865
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:01.039
<v Speaker 4>my game in Discord and talking to Jeff about work

1866
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:04.000
<v Speaker 4>while watching that show, my brain can do all of

1867
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.520
<v Speaker 4>that at the same time. I also know that my

1868
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:08.920
<v Speaker 4>brain doesn't operate away the way a lot of people do,

1869
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.000
<v Speaker 4>and like I don't. I don't do well with downtime period.

1870
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>So again, I feel really seen right now. There's been

1871
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:18.760
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times in our relationship where we've looked

1872
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:20.239
<v Speaker 4>at each other and be like, I fucking see you,

1873
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:23.039
<v Speaker 4>and like we always know what that means. That was

1874
01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>a very good moment for me, just knowing I really

1875
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:27.079
<v Speaker 4>appreciate you, I love you, I love you well.

1876
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:31.079
<v Speaker 5>Chris, apparently you're Sime's twin to my husband, because he

1877
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.279
<v Speaker 5>feels the exact same way about Fire Country, and this

1878
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:37.720
<v Speaker 5>whole time he's just been nodding, it says ted rapidly,

1879
01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:38.560
<v Speaker 5>yes at me.

1880
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 6>So, so was that about fire Country or are you

1881
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:46.880
<v Speaker 6>relating to the way that my husband experiences life.

1882
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:46.720
<v Speaker 5>That way.

1883
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:50.920
<v Speaker 7>In both ways because like, well, watching our hotel and

1884
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:52.800
<v Speaker 7>she'll be getting mad at me that I'm on my phone.

1885
01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:54.880
<v Speaker 7>I was like, I'm paying more attention than you because

1886
01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:58.239
<v Speaker 7>you've asked me three questions about this same episode and

1887
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:02.520
<v Speaker 7>we're already on the next episode it and I'm playing

1888
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.800
<v Speaker 7>my game on my phone while still paying attention because

1889
01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:10.199
<v Speaker 7>I've learned to multitask when it comes to.

1890
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:15.039
<v Speaker 8>Playing a game and watching videos at the same time.

1891
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:18.119
<v Speaker 4>There are a lot of people out there that tell

1892
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:19.960
<v Speaker 4>that will tell you that there's no such thing as

1893
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:23.359
<v Speaker 4>multitasking and that if you're multitasking, you're not actually giving

1894
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:27.039
<v Speaker 4>your full attention to something. And there's a truth in that,

1895
01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:29.680
<v Speaker 4>But there's also the truth in understanding that some of

1896
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:32.039
<v Speaker 4>us need to fidget and move and walk and do

1897
01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:35.720
<v Speaker 4>in order to retain what's happening because it's not happening

1898
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>fast enough, Like I have to listen to audiobooks super

1899
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking quick otherwise I can't do it. And real shit,

1900
01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:44.119
<v Speaker 4>like I'm watching tiktoks at two and three times a

1901
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:46.880
<v Speaker 4>speed now because I don't me too with my YouTube video,

1902
01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:49.239
<v Speaker 4>I just can't. So like, I need you to get

1903
01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:52.039
<v Speaker 4>to the fucking point. If I'm watching a YouTube video

1904
01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:53.640
<v Speaker 4>because I need to learn about one thing and it's

1905
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.600
<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes and I'm looking for six seconds of information,

1906
01:37:57.479 --> 01:37:58.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm not watching that.

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<v Speaker 8>Get you'll skip through.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we'll kind of life to live homie, right, Yeah,

1909
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:04.680
<v Speaker 4>there's a whole lot of a whole lot of my

1910
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:08.359
<v Speaker 4>life needs to be tailored to the way that my

1911
01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:10.840
<v Speaker 4>brain works. And unfortunately the rest of the world doesn't

1912
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:12.760
<v Speaker 4>work like my brain, so I have to navigate it

1913
01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:14.199
<v Speaker 4>to make it do what I want it to do.

1914
01:38:14.359 --> 01:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Adapt it.

1915
01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:18.039
<v Speaker 4>But I read, play video games, and listen to music

1916
01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:21.319
<v Speaker 4>or YouTube videos at the same time, So like I'll

1917
01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:24.439
<v Speaker 4>have magic the gathering open while researching a document, reading

1918
01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:26.359
<v Speaker 4>the law of one, and watching YouTube shit at the

1919
01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:29.680
<v Speaker 4>same time. It's it's wild and I can retain all three.

1920
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Of it at the same time. Do you have anything

1921
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:33.159
<v Speaker 2>else you guys want to get into.

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<v Speaker 4>I think at this point we've covered a whole lot,

1923
01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:37.319
<v Speaker 4>and I don't want to overinundate you guys with information

1924
01:38:37.479 --> 01:38:39.479
<v Speaker 4>I feel like this has been a very productive call.

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01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I think, yeah, pretty much everything honestly. Oh, I

1926
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.159
<v Speaker 5>do have one question. Can you give me a few

1927
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:54.239
<v Speaker 5>questions that I can ask to not necessarily hell, but

1928
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:58.079
<v Speaker 5>kind of break the eyes when he's having an emotion

1929
01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:03.439
<v Speaker 5>and I can see something's going on but he's not

1930
01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:08.359
<v Speaker 5>communicating yet. You just said to pro but I just

1931
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't feel like maybe I'm asking the right questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so, first of all, you need to stop doing

1933
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:17.399
<v Speaker 4>this about you, you having this need to figure out

1934
01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 4>what's going on and try to have him communicate with

1935
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:22.199
<v Speaker 4>you as a youth thing. If he's not coming to

1936
01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:23.800
<v Speaker 4>you to talk to you about what's going on, he

1937
01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:25.960
<v Speaker 4>either hasn't processed it yet or he's not ready to

1938
01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:29.640
<v Speaker 4>talk about it. There's a whole lot of times in

1939
01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:32.000
<v Speaker 4>life where Peaches will come to me and ask me

1940
01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:34.319
<v Speaker 4>a question and I'll be like, we'll get there, or

1941
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.199
<v Speaker 4>I'll be like, I'm not ready to have that discussion yet.

1942
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:37.760
<v Speaker 4>Let me finish working it through my head so that

1943
01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:40.680
<v Speaker 4>we can have an intelligent conversation. Or she gets to

1944
01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the exact opposite and I just word vomit all the

1945
01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:44.279
<v Speaker 4>fuck over her and then afterwards, I'm like, did that

1946
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:45.760
<v Speaker 4>even make sense? And she's like yep, And that's the

1947
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:47.840
<v Speaker 4>end of it because I got it out and we're good.

1948
01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:50.439
<v Speaker 4>It would be better for you to if you think

1949
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:53.960
<v Speaker 4>he's not okay, just simply ask him, like, Hey, where's

1950
01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:55.960
<v Speaker 4>your headspace at right now? That's a great question. Where's

1951
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>your headspace? Is there anything that I can do for you?

1952
01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:02.560
<v Speaker 4>What do you need for me? And anything beyond those

1953
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:06.079
<v Speaker 4>basic questions. If you think he's off, love him, love

1954
01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:07.720
<v Speaker 4>on him, lay on him, put your head in his

1955
01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:11.479
<v Speaker 4>fucking lap, Like there's intimate things that you could be doing.

1956
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:13.840
<v Speaker 4>Real shit, you guys, are you remember the tiktoks that

1957
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:16.720
<v Speaker 4>people were making about how the touch of a partner

1958
01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:18.920
<v Speaker 4>can make everything in a head go silent. That's my

1959
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:22.159
<v Speaker 4>fucking reality with you all the time. I made tiktoks

1960
01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:23.600
<v Speaker 4>about it in the beginning, Like that was one of

1961
01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:25.239
<v Speaker 4>the first tiktoks that we made that blew up. My

1962
01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:28.600
<v Speaker 4>head is loud constantly when my face is in your

1963
01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.359
<v Speaker 4>hands and we're making eye contact or we're sharing forehead breath,

1964
01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:33.920
<v Speaker 4>like that shit stops. It's dead silent, and it's the

1965
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:35.880
<v Speaker 4>only time in my life that my mind is silent

1966
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:38.920
<v Speaker 4>other than when I'm unconscious. I need those moments. I

1967
01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.600
<v Speaker 4>need the reprieve for me and you laying on me,

1968
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:43.840
<v Speaker 4>or me laying on you and us having that physical

1969
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:45.960
<v Speaker 4>touch makes that go away. He may not be a

1970
01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:48.119
<v Speaker 4>physical touch person in an aspect, but I'm willing to

1971
01:40:48.119 --> 01:40:51.239
<v Speaker 4>bet that if you ask most men, that's a great

1972
01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:52.760
<v Speaker 4>moment for us. You lay on a couch with our

1973
01:40:52.800 --> 01:40:54.319
<v Speaker 4>head and our lap and just play on your phone

1974
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.000
<v Speaker 4>and let's just existence in time and space for a

1975
01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:01.960
<v Speaker 4>little while. Like that fucking recharges my bad man. You'd

1976
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:05.199
<v Speaker 4>be surprised at what that does for us. But don't

1977
01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:05.840
<v Speaker 4>make it about you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my answer to that is, don't try to label

1979
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.960
<v Speaker 6>what you think he's going through. So instead of approaching

1980
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:16.840
<v Speaker 6>him and saying are you angry or I feel like

1981
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:20.520
<v Speaker 6>you're frustrated, say something along the line of I feel

1982
01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:24.039
<v Speaker 6>like your vibe is off, I feel like your energy

1983
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.079
<v Speaker 6>is not where it usually is, And you can even

1984
01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:30.199
<v Speaker 6>throw in there, you can tell me if I'm wrong.

1985
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.880
<v Speaker 6>My emotional seeking device might need a calibration. There is

1986
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:38.279
<v Speaker 6>a very real projection that happens. There are times where

1987
01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:40.439
<v Speaker 6>my vibe is off and I'm checking in with my husband,

1988
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:42.239
<v Speaker 6>because I know I'm not okay and I need to

1989
01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:46.640
<v Speaker 6>make sure you're okay. So if he says there's nothing

1990
01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:50.199
<v Speaker 6>going on, you need to believe him. But in turn, Hove,

1991
01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:52.640
<v Speaker 6>you need to be honest about that. When you say

1992
01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:54.760
<v Speaker 6>that there's nothing going on, there actually needs to be

1993
01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:57.880
<v Speaker 6>nothing going on. If you do have something going on

1994
01:41:58.000 --> 01:41:59.680
<v Speaker 6>and your woman comes up to you and she was like, hey,

1995
01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:02.319
<v Speaker 6>the vibe is off. Is there anything you want to

1996
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:05.920
<v Speaker 6>talk about? Not yet, but I did think of something

1997
01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:08.119
<v Speaker 6>today that's kind of put me in a dark place. Yeah,

1998
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:11.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be okay. It's not about us. We are fine.

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01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:13.119
<v Speaker 6>I just need to process this before I bring it

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01:42:13.159 --> 01:42:13.640
<v Speaker 6>to the table.

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01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Always hit them with we're good. Yeah, Always hit them

2002
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:18.359
<v Speaker 2>with unless you're not good. Yeah.

2003
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.319
<v Speaker 4>But if you're having relationship problems, it's a different conversation.

2004
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:23.920
<v Speaker 4>But always let your partner know that things are good.

2005
01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:26.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm working through things right now. Let me let me

2006
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.199
<v Speaker 4>get a cohesive thought together and we'll have a discussion.

2007
01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to sound dumb. I don't want to

2008
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:34.079
<v Speaker 4>be overly emotional. I'm not ready to talk about it.

2009
01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:35.960
<v Speaker 4>It's okay to not be ready to discuss some shit.

2010
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:40.119
<v Speaker 4>As long as you're willing to address and process and

2011
01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:43.399
<v Speaker 4>then actually, you know, let that shit out. You guys,

2012
01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:46.760
<v Speaker 4>can't You can't suppress. Yes, you can only put so

2013
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:49.760
<v Speaker 4>much into a bottle before the bottle explodes. That's why

2014
01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:52.039
<v Speaker 4>we do the after reaction reviews. There's times where we

2015
01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:54.000
<v Speaker 4>have arguments and then have well we don't have arguments,

2016
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.279
<v Speaker 4>we have disruptions, but then we have a follow up

2017
01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.359
<v Speaker 4>discussion about it a day or two later. If there

2018
01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:00.359
<v Speaker 4>needs to be ones that we can understand the way

2019
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:02.000
<v Speaker 4>that we behaved or why we did the thing we did,

2020
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:02.680
<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

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01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:03.720
<v Speaker 2>The case may be.

2022
01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Because conflict resolution or resolution doesn't happen in conflict, that

2023
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:09.920
<v Speaker 4>happens after the fact. There's got to be time to process.

2024
01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Emotions have to cool off, like there's a whole lot

2025
01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:12.640
<v Speaker 4>of that that it's a thing.

2026
01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:15.640
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, and there also has to be a level

2027
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:19.960
<v Speaker 6>of acceptance. Addie, Right, if he processes something and all

2028
01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.079
<v Speaker 6>he gives you is I overcame it and I'm a

2029
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:25.960
<v Speaker 6>better person because of it, and that's all he wants

2030
01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:26.319
<v Speaker 6>to say.

2031
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:27.319
<v Speaker 3>That's all you're going to get.

2032
01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 6>The more that you try to probe and gather more

2033
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:37.119
<v Speaker 6>information that may not be yours right, the more of

2034
01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:41.800
<v Speaker 6>a violation that can happen. But also in turn, if

2035
01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:43.840
<v Speaker 6>he does want to talk about it again, that's one

2036
01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:45.079
<v Speaker 6>of those things where you just have to sit there

2037
01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:46.600
<v Speaker 6>and listen to it. Don't try to fix it, don't

2038
01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:50.079
<v Speaker 6>try to problem solve unless he specifically asks. I don't

2039
01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:51.720
<v Speaker 6>know what to do in this situation, and I need

2040
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:54.319
<v Speaker 6>your help. I feel like I said a lot there.

2041
01:43:54.399 --> 01:43:56.840
<v Speaker 4>We yeah, we got, We've covered a lot in this episode.

2042
01:43:57.720 --> 01:44:00.000
<v Speaker 4>This is this has been, I believe, a very productive

2043
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:02.479
<v Speaker 4>thing both of them, and I honestly think if you

2044
01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:04.479
<v Speaker 4>guys sit back and listen to this again and you

2045
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:07.800
<v Speaker 4>approach it from a place of neutrality and you start

2046
01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.079
<v Speaker 4>implementing things that'll change your life, Like you guys will

2047
01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:12.880
<v Speaker 4>find yourself in a very different relationship because of it.

2048
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.880
<v Speaker 4>These these little tweaks is like tuning up an engine.

2049
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Like your car may run good, but if you go

2050
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:19.560
<v Speaker 4>through and you just tighten everything down and make sure

2051
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:22.319
<v Speaker 4>things are lubricated and running properly, you're gonna get a

2052
01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:23.039
<v Speaker 4>lot more out of it.

2053
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.399
<v Speaker 2>So it does it. It doesn't take much to just make.

2054
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:28.119
<v Speaker 4>Sure that things get their their you know, maintenance, And

2055
01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:30.000
<v Speaker 4>that's what communicating is. It's what the check ins are,

2056
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:32.680
<v Speaker 4>it's it's general maintenance of your life.

2057
01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think this is definitely something we needed to do.

2058
01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 5>What about you use your words?

2059
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that?

2060
01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, you guys can't see him not.

2061
01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but but you're not talking he's you were talking

2062
01:44:52.600 --> 01:44:54.800
<v Speaker 4>to him. So if you were able to see him, not,

2063
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:58.439
<v Speaker 4>that's that's enough. There's a whole whole lot of let

2064
01:44:58.439 --> 01:44:59.520
<v Speaker 4>this man live his life.

2065
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:01.039
<v Speaker 11>You know.

2066
01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:04.439
<v Speaker 6>There is a certain level right that and this just

2067
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:06.319
<v Speaker 6>came into my mind. This could totally be left field

2068
01:45:06.319 --> 01:45:08.600
<v Speaker 6>and inaccurate, but for anybody listening who can relate to this,

2069
01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:11.840
<v Speaker 6>it does something for somebody. There is also a level

2070
01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:14.479
<v Speaker 6>of inducing if I have to perform to make someone happy,

2071
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.439
<v Speaker 6>not saying that hobby feels that way, but that is

2072
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:20.560
<v Speaker 6>just to see the plant to think about.

2073
01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:24.279
<v Speaker 4>So how do how do we close this out? I

2074
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:24.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't think that through.

2075
01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:26.079
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think that through either.

2076
01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So then final thoughts. Do you guys have anything

2077
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:31.680
<v Speaker 4>else that you want to get into before we wrap up?

2078
01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:32.159
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

2079
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:32.439
<v Speaker 3>That's good?

2080
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:32.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

2081
01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:36.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I don't have a question, but I don't know

2082
01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:40.640
<v Speaker 5>if I can ask it. And it's not a relationship question.

2083
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:41.560
<v Speaker 5>It's for peaches.

2084
01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Guys, if this is something that you've enjoyed and you

2085
01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:45.680
<v Speaker 4>would like to be on the show, you can send

2086
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 4>an email to Chris at Tobbetter dot com list of

2087
01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:50.159
<v Speaker 4>things of what you want to do and make sure

2088
01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:52.680
<v Speaker 4>that your partner's on board. If you send an email

2089
01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:54.880
<v Speaker 4>and you're like, my partner's not into this, we're not

2090
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:56.520
<v Speaker 4>doing it like this is going to be a two

2091
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:58.880
<v Speaker 4>way street. That needs to be both of you willing

2092
01:45:58.920 --> 01:46:01.840
<v Speaker 4>to try to actively improve your lives. And if that's

2093
01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:03.720
<v Speaker 4>something that appeals to you, please send us an email.

2094
01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:05.880
<v Speaker 4>I will do what I can to try to facilitate

2095
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:09.039
<v Speaker 4>that if it aligns with what we're doing. Anything you

2096
01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:10.399
<v Speaker 4>want to add for final thoughts, hot on this.

2097
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:13.279
<v Speaker 6>To Hovey and Addie. Thank you guys for putting yourselves

2098
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.800
<v Speaker 6>out there like this. I know that this may have

2099
01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:18.079
<v Speaker 6>not been an easy decision. I know it may have

2100
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.880
<v Speaker 6>caused anxiety or you know, like, oh my god, what

2101
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:22.039
<v Speaker 6>are they going to say? Are we going to walk

2102
01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:24.279
<v Speaker 6>away from this better? Is it going to cause tension

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<v Speaker 6>or frustration? I hope that you guys walk away with

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<v Speaker 6>this with some golden nuggets. And I truly hope that

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<v Speaker 6>this conversation with us has brought you, guys or will

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<v Speaker 6>bring you guys closer together with better understanding of each

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<v Speaker 6>other and of yourselves and the relationship. A couple of

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<v Speaker 6>comments from the YouTube channel everybody thanks you guys for

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<v Speaker 6>being willing to do this, so people got a lot

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<v Speaker 6>from this conversation. I think in putting your guys' self

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<v Speaker 6>out here like this, you are going to help a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people. And I think that by proxy a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of marriages and relationships can be saved from the

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<v Speaker 6>conversations that we're had tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and thank you for trusting us.

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<v Speaker 8>And with that being thank you for thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually and helping us. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that just made me a little bit of emotion. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys are very welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>It's an honor to be able to have these conversations

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<v Speaker 6>and try our best to help you guys find the

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<v Speaker 6>joy and love back into the relationship, not that it's

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<v Speaker 6>not there, but to increase it.

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<v Speaker 4>Life of abundance guys. And with that being said, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>remember that you are the author of your own life.

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<v Speaker 4>So grab a pen and we will see you on

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<v Speaker 4>the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, guys.
