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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. You've been hearing on the news breaks the

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<v Speaker 2>excitement about my Alba mater Cu going to the Alamo Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about ready to weigh into a topic which I

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<v Speaker 2>have very little knowledge.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exciting to see the Buffs in a bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see them ranked. It's been fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something about new college football I really don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's that these players are now multi millionaires. It

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a kid would go to college and

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<v Speaker 2>if he got a scholarship, that helped him. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this? Get an education? I know it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It would help that kid get an education he could afford,

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<v Speaker 2>so he'd play on a team. In exchange, he'd he'd

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<v Speaker 2>get a free education or discounted education. That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And then money perverts it. You've got superstars who are

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<v Speaker 2>now selling what are is it called image, likeness and

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<v Speaker 2>name something like that. That they they have control of

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<v Speaker 2>their own image, they have control of their likeness, they

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<v Speaker 2>have the control of their name, and if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to sell those things for endorsement purposes, well shouldn't they

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<v Speaker 2>be able to? I mean, come on, Caldera, you like

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<v Speaker 2>all this liberty stuff and free market stuff. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>really what we're talking about? Like, yeah, I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I particularly see that for some sports. Think of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, gymnastics, gymnastics where by the time you hit eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you're over the hill. It's not like some gymnast who's

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<v Speaker 2>out out of school is going to graduate and then

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<v Speaker 2>have the peak of her career afterwards where she can

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<v Speaker 2>then trade in and get those endorsements and get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna be She's going to be top of her

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<v Speaker 2>game when she's sixteen, sometimes fourteen, So if she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>cash in, then she might not be able to cash

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<v Speaker 2>in on her celebrity. I get that, really, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that. And so why not let this person

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<v Speaker 2>cash in while they're hot? Even though college had these

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<v Speaker 2>rules that you couldn't you couldn't do that, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you made money, you couldn't be in the Olympics, And

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<v Speaker 2>so you had a lot of people who skipped college

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<v Speaker 2>or deferred college so that they could go off and

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<v Speaker 2>do their sport and do some advertisements and make some money,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe use that money to go to college. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I see it, I really do. I get it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can see that point. But there's something that just rubs

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<v Speaker 2>me the wrong way. Of football players driving around in

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<v Speaker 2>their maseratis being multi millionaires while they're students. So you've

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<v Speaker 2>got you've got a very good quarterback at CU, You've

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<v Speaker 2>got a Heisman Trophy winner at CU. These guys are

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<v Speaker 2>cashing in money and they haven't even gone to the

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<v Speaker 2>big leagues yet. They're not they're not professionals yet, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting paid to play ball, they're getting paid to

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<v Speaker 2>do advertisements. And I just think the purpose of college

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<v Speaker 2>sports is college more than it is sport. Help me

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<v Speaker 2>wade through this one three h three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>If you could, would you go back to the way

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make more money and you're in college, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta wait until you're a pro, particularly in football, football

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<v Speaker 2>and basketball, the big big ones. I really miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>It has taken away the oh, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to put it. It's taken away the magic of the

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<v Speaker 2>game of it being about a college. So you've got

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<v Speaker 2>all these kids in a stadium and they're no longer

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<v Speaker 2>in the same boat it used to be. That. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys who are the cheerleaders throwing girls up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air. Maybe they're getting a scholarship for being on

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<v Speaker 2>the cheer team. Maybe some of the folks on the

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<v Speaker 2>marching band also get a scholarship. I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're all the same, They're all in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 2>They all go and live on the same campus for

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<v Speaker 2>the first year or so, they're all taking the same classes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all going to the same student union. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>having a shared experience. And then you know, some kids

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<v Speaker 2>get a job on campus. I had a job on campus,

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<v Speaker 2>and you make a few bucks an hour working at

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<v Speaker 2>the student center, or I used to work security at

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<v Speaker 2>some of the ballgames or things like that. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's a way to make a little extra money.

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<v Speaker 2>But then that guy over there, because people love what

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<v Speaker 2>he does, is getting paid millions millions, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>now now you've got a hierarchy in college that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist before. I don't know how it doesn't mess up

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<v Speaker 2>college educations, that it doesn't put the emphasis on the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong thing, which is making money rather than learning and

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<v Speaker 2>going to school. And also just I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>just feels so ugly. Help me with this one three

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to Mike. Good, Good afternoon, Mike. You're with

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<v Speaker 2>John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 1>John, nice to talk to you. Thank you, long time listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I was kind of weigh in on what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about here with the college athletes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I received the Division one scholarship to play basketball in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineties, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>You got what school?

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<v Speaker 1>Three school? I'm at the Boise State.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, the mighty mighty Boise.

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<v Speaker 1>State, good old Broncos. With the blue field. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>that thing. I used to run up and down that

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<v Speaker 2>That is so weird, isn't it. It's just yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I like the concept of a different colored field.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna have fake grass, why not do something

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<v Speaker 2>something crazy? Maybe maybe zebra stripes, well, something something that

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<v Speaker 2>really weird. Did you get a full ride?

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<v Speaker 1>I got a full ride and you played and I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wasn't the best player up there. I

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<v Speaker 1>played here and there, you know, had some injuries and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They sold my jersey number, not my name, because we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have our names on our jersey but they sold

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<v Speaker 1>my jersey. I think they sold maybe one and then

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<v Speaker 1>had one return good.

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<v Speaker 2>So your mom bought it and then returned it.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom bought it and it was too small, so

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<v Speaker 1>you returned it. But yeah, I mean that was the

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<v Speaker 1>big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a lot of money coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we weren't rich college. Yeah, that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I took advantage of it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my degree up there and and uh but yeah, now

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<v Speaker 1>these this portal situation and all these kids you know

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<v Speaker 1>making money off there, like me, like me, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You say the portal situation, Educate me a bit on that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I college football still confuses me. The whole playoff

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<v Speaker 2>system confuses me. The conferences confused me. The rankings confuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>So why I like the NFL. I can understand the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you one hundred percent. I'm with you one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent on that. I like NFL football and I

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<v Speaker 1>like college basketball. I'll me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say the portal.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know too much about the portal system, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like every year there's a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>kids who can go to as many as can you

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<v Speaker 1>go to four different schools and four years do that system.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it works very well. But I

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<v Speaker 1>remember back when I if I wanted to transfer, if

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<v Speaker 1>if my head coach didn't get fired, or I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to transfer. So if if you lost a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you could transfer without losing a year because you went

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<v Speaker 1>to that school to play for that man or woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it seems like you can just pop around. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this guy, or I don't like my

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<v Speaker 2>So it's almost like they're free agents. Now. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of be true to your school doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you hear that last part?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I was just saying that the old Beach

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<v Speaker 2>Boys song be true to your school, No, doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't happen anymore because you're thinking about money. You're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about you know how I can make more money

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<v Speaker 2>right now? And I get some of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're one injury away from from losing your livelihood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but isn't payment for your livelihood to make you

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level of free education? How much does

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<v Speaker 1>school cost these days? You said you went to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>I sadly went to see you. Let me, let me,

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<v Speaker 2>let me put myself in the group of what a

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<v Speaker 2>waste of money from that communist factory. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an engineer, great, maybe their business school, but

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<v Speaker 2>their liberal arts program is just there to perpetuate socialism.

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<v Speaker 2>And I you know, so I love it when they

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<v Speaker 2>call me for money from the alumni association and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you kidding? Let me tell you why I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you money. And then afterwards I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like us to take us take you off

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<v Speaker 2>our solicitation list? Like no, I love having this yearly

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<v Speaker 2>conversation to complain about what you teach at to see

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<v Speaker 2>you anyway, But if you had to do it over again,

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<v Speaker 2>would you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think so? Why not? You know, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have done you know, obviously few things different, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's from a young age. That was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a family where you know, sisters were

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<v Speaker 1>getting volleyball scholarships to you know, Nebraska and Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 1>and basketball scholarships to Arkansas for my brothers and some football.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like it came from a jock family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got a jock family, and you got a

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<v Speaker 2>college education paid for. Your parents must have loved that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you look at the professional athletes in

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<v Speaker 1>the as a whole. They're broken five years after they're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's why they get paid so much money

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<v Speaker 1>three years last. And it just it doesn't work that way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Whereas with my degree, I got it for free.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was a midrage player, got to go

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got a great career, I've got a great family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not a multi millionaire by any means. But

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<v Speaker 1>but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also you also must have had a great memory of

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<v Speaker 2>being on a college basketball team. Would would be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of living the classic American dream of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It was so great. It was so great, state of

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<v Speaker 1>Boise was just switching over. Their football program was just

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<v Speaker 1>in so how first class flying you know, per deems

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<v Speaker 1>during the day. And that's another thing too which I

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<v Speaker 1>dollars during the summer, you weren't allowed. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't want boosters giving you money to do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And so now boosters can give money by

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<v Speaker 2>by renting out your likeness. There's just it just feels

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<v Speaker 2>so very wrong. And I understand the logic behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that somebody's somebody's making money off you, So

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<v Speaker 2>why can't I make money off of myself? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I get that, but I think it just spoils, spoils

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<v Speaker 2>the college education, and it spoils college sports. Hey, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the call. Let's chat with Bill. Bill, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>you with John Kelder. Glad to have you Bill.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I'm in Western Nebraska, so I'm a Husker fan.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll forgive if your thing goes, say, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing goes. Are these guys that are getting engineering

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<v Speaker 3>degrees and paying for their credits. Are these football players

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<v Speaker 3>and athletes are they going to pay for the credits

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<v Speaker 3>that the college is teaching them.

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<v Speaker 2>A career well, their career.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they going to be charged? Yeah, Well they get

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<v Speaker 3>out and they go to the pros, and they're making

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<v Speaker 3>all this money. Just like an engineer would if he

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<v Speaker 3>paid for his credits and went out and got a job.

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<v Speaker 3>These athletes need to start coughing up and paying for

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<v Speaker 3>the training that the college has given them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting thought. Let me see if I'm understanding you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go to school and you get a degree

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<v Speaker 2>in engineering. You've got a bunch of engineering professors who

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<v Speaker 2>get paid and you are paying them, and they teach

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<v Speaker 2>you stuff. You then take that knowledge and get a

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<v Speaker 2>career out of it. Here the college player, the multi

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<v Speaker 2>millionaire is getting a free ride scholarship. Yet the other kids,

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<v Speaker 2>the other tuition givers or boosters or somehow else people

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<v Speaker 2>are getting paid to train you how to play football.

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<v Speaker 2>That is your stock in trade, not engineering, and you

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<v Speaker 2>take that knowledge with you when you leave and go

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<v Speaker 2>become a pro.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or even the coach somewhere they're learning their trade

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<v Speaker 3>of from the athletic side of the college, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>not paying. I don't know what you call it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a the tuition part of it that the normal guy

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<v Speaker 3>that has an engineering is going for engineering is paying.

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<v Speaker 3>They're getting a free ride from the taxpayers and the

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<v Speaker 3>supporters and stuff, and not putting back into the for

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<v Speaker 3>what they were getting trained for.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's there's something that perverts education. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to talk about education because we love

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<v Speaker 2>college football so much, but there's just something that treats

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<v Speaker 2>one kid differently than the other kid. And there's just

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<v Speaker 2>something weird about I'm I'm going to class with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and next to me is this guy and he's making

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars a year in school and I got

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<v Speaker 2>a part time job, you know, for fifteen bucks. Life life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just doesn't. We no longer have a

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<v Speaker 2>shared experience as colleagues in school.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. I mean, if you're getting if

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<v Speaker 3>the college is teaching you to become something in athletics,

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<v Speaker 3>like I say, a coach, a player, anything like that

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<v Speaker 3>that you learned by by playing the game, you should

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<v Speaker 3>pay the tuition for it, not just have the taxpayers

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<v Speaker 3>pay for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting It's like, all right, Sanders, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>making millions of dollars off your likeness. You're only making

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<v Speaker 2>that millions of dollars because you're playing football, which for

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<v Speaker 2>our for our team. So how about you pay your

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<v Speaker 2>own tuition? At least I could get behind that there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The idea of tuition was to help people

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<v Speaker 2>who couldn't pay. The Sanders family can pay their tuition

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<v Speaker 2>and their room and board. They could sell one of

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<v Speaker 2>their cars and do that. That's an interesting point. The

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<v Speaker 2>other the other thing that's kind of weird for me

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<v Speaker 2>is when I went to college, they had the college uniforms.

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<v Speaker 2>I even remember those powder puff blue and gold uniforms,

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<v Speaker 2>see you had, and they were awful. They were just awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Black and gold is much better. But they played the

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<v Speaker 2>same uniform the whole year. My god, these guys seem

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<v Speaker 2>to have a different uniform every game. Who pays for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, five different styles of uniforms and helmets that

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<v Speaker 2>seems to get switched up every game. It just it's

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<v Speaker 2>mixing school football with professional football, and I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that mix. All right, Hey, thanks for the call.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. What am I getting wrong on this one? What? What?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I thinking wrong? Would you go back to

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<v Speaker 2>to the way where you could not sell your likeness?

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<v Speaker 2>And if so, who are you to tell somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>what they can do with their face? Three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight five eighty five. I'm John Caldera

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<v Speaker 2>in for Mandy. You're on KOWA thirty four minutes after

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<v Speaker 2>Good Afternoon. I'm John Caldera in for Mandy. Please be

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<v Speaker 2>part of the conversation at three three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>eight five eighty five. I'm trying to make sense of

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<v Speaker 2>this relatively new system where college football players can become

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<v Speaker 2>millionaires while they're still playing college ball. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>really taints the game. I think it really perverts education.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also struggling with it this way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, I run a not for profit that pushes

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<v Speaker 2>freedom and free markets, free people in free markets. And

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<v Speaker 2>if a guy wants to sell his services as a

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<v Speaker 2>spokesman for Kentucky Fried Chicken, who am I to say

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't? Can I just say I don't like it?

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<v Speaker 2>Help me understand this one. Let's go down to a

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<v Speaker 2>fountain and talk to Bob Bob, Welcome. You're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 4>John, it's just one more step in the march that

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<v Speaker 4>we are doing towards commercializing everything. I got a free

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<v Speaker 4>ride for college education back in the sixties from the church.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to serve the church a certain number of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had to like be pope for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the wrong church, but that's the right idea. But

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing is that back when I was a

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<v Speaker 4>kid and young man.

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<v Speaker 5>Growing up, there was a loyalty to my school that

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<v Speaker 5>I could not participate in a portal if that even

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<v Speaker 5>existed back then, because what's.

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<v Speaker 4>Upon a time. I was good enough in high school

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<v Speaker 4>to play varsity ball, but I wasn't good enough at college.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Yeah, the idea of I guess there's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different factors going on.

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<v Speaker 4>On a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of them is is you know, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of a portal if if you're really kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent in college, you don't have to make a

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<v Speaker 2>lasting decision. I don't like it in this school, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to the next school. It'll be good for my career.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can do that if you're going to business school,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to business school at you know, Idahost

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<v Speaker 2>State or something, and you go, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>just got offered a scholarship to be at University of

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<v Speaker 2>Denver's Leeds or Daniel's Business School. I'll think I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 2>No one would blame you for giving up your old

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<v Speaker 2>school to get a better education at a higher rated,

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<v Speaker 2>better school that's going to help you. So why would

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<v Speaker 2>it be different If I'm a football player and my

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<v Speaker 2>career I plan on is professional football, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>an ability to go pay a play for a better

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<v Speaker 2>team that will highlight me more, that will increase my marketability.

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<v Speaker 2>Why shouldn't I be able to go and go play

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<v Speaker 4>The way you've explained it, you could all goes persuade me.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing is that I still have but Broncos

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're winning or losing, And here lately they started

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<v Speaker 4>winning and I don't have the tears that I used

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<v Speaker 4>to have. You know, there's at the same time, commit

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<v Speaker 4>but these more than just the ability to change your

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's And I might be thinking this too

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<v Speaker 2>too much here, but there is a growing age of emancipation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about kids during World War Two. I've met

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<v Speaker 2>some older gentlemen who snuck away at fifteen years old

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<v Speaker 2>to try to go join the Navy, only to get

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<v Speaker 2>turned back and sent home to mom and dad. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, my god, kids became adults so early by

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<v Speaker 2>today's standards, and now you can stay on your parents'

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<v Speaker 2>health insurance plan until you're twenty six years old. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really pretty wild. In the same way a high schooler

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<v Speaker 2>would make a decision, I'm going to take the scholarship

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<v Speaker 2>offer from this college, and I'm there for four years now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I can make that decision, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>get out of it if I want to, So the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of making decisions like an adult are less and less.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking about this from the college kid's point

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<v Speaker 2>of view. What is best for the college kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>not just the football player, but all the college kids

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<v Speaker 2>and other than you were able to make more money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a hard time coming out why this is

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<v Speaker 4>The whole thing is I changed my major while I

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<v Speaker 4>degree and I've never used it, never practiced once, never

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<v Speaker 4>completed any of my medical work, But at the same

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<v Speaker 4>point in time I did not enjoy the money that

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<v Speaker 4>would be created as a medical practitioner. I feel that

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<v Speaker 4>we sell too much of ourselves for the price or

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<v Speaker 4>for the income that we get. And I wonder whether

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<v Speaker 4>or not that applies to our college professors as they

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<v Speaker 4>earned more and more. And I also wonder about the

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<v Speaker 4>tuition and the scholarship. If I got a free ride

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<v Speaker 4>as a player, I would play. And if a school

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<v Speaker 2>Although when you get older and you have a job

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<v Speaker 2>and offers you more money, you could take it. So

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<v Speaker 2>are we saying kids shouldn't grow up sooner? If you're

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<v Speaker 2>more of a free agent, isn't that more like being

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<v Speaker 2>an adult? I mean, this whole thing confuses me. All

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<v Speaker 2>I know is I don't like it. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>kids becoming multi millionaires while they're still in a dormitory.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just being some nasty, grumpy old guy and I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't like Jay And that might be the case. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. Thanks for the call. Three all three seven

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<v Speaker 2>to one, three eighty five, eighty five. I'm thrilled see

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to a bowl game. But it just seems

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems like we're missing some of the innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's it, some of the innocence of college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Help me understand it. Three all three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>eight five eighty five. John Calderic, keep it right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on KOA. Got about eleven minutes to the top.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm John Caldera. Thanks for spending some time with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Mandy is having a great time on our

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<v Speaker 2>day off. My job is to scare away her audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing a good job. Give me a call. Three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three seven one three eight five eight five. Big

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<v Speaker 2>big football day tomorrow. Glad I've got a big screen TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be oneful. But as I've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel really queasy about these new new college

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<v Speaker 2>rules that allow kids to cash in while they're college kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm finding myself in that unfamiliar area where my

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<v Speaker 2>logic goes in one direction, but my old man crankiness

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<v Speaker 2>goes in the other direction. I get it, if a

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<v Speaker 2>kid wants to make some money on the side. Who

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<v Speaker 2>am I to say, don't do it. It's his face,

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<v Speaker 2>it's his voice. And if Colonel Sanders wants to give

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<v Speaker 2>him money to sling chicken, ain't my business. More power

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<v Speaker 2>to them. But there's just something that feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>taking away the innocence of college sport. I've had this

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<v Speaker 2>fight with my daughter, who is into gymnastics, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, man, and her very best Joe Biden, come on, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Her point is a a college gymnast has a remarkably

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<v Speaker 2>short career. I mean, you're eighteen years old and you're

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<v Speaker 2>over the hill. So if you have to wait until

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<v Speaker 2>after you get out of college to cash in, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing left to cash in. It's like, well, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good point. I don't have any problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know, the guy on the college ping pong

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<v Speaker 2>team wants to endorse his very favorite paddle, great, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like that's big stuff. That's that's small peanuts. This

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<v Speaker 2>track and field guy wants to do a commercial for

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<v Speaker 2>his running all right, fine, It's different when you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter and Sanders making millions and millions of dollars everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>because football is so ridiculously popular. We can keep going

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<v Speaker 2>with this and say does it anger any of the pros?

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean by that is Colonel Sanders needs someone

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<v Speaker 2>to advertise his chicken. Yeah, he could go to bow Nicks,

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<v Speaker 2>but now he can get the quarterback Sanders. Get it,

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel Sanders, Man, I could I could write this ad

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<v Speaker 2>copy right now. Anyway. I wonder if any of the

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<v Speaker 2>pros think I don't want the competition in the endorsement industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I make my money off of endorsements. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>just hate the high cost of everything, particularly sports. We're

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<v Speaker 2>chatting in the previous hour about three hundred dollars plus

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<v Speaker 2>lift tickets for ski resorts now, so regular people can't

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy them. College players, professional players make so much money

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes unheard of, absolutely unheard of. As a complete aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you my thought on equality. So we

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<v Speaker 2>keep hearing things like teachers are underpaid, teachers are underpaid,

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<v Speaker 2>the sun comes up in the morning, teachers are underpaid,

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<v Speaker 2>to which I say, there's actually not really proof of that,

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<v Speaker 2>because we have enough teachers to fill the spots, and

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<v Speaker 2>if not, well, then then we raise the price and

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<v Speaker 2>we get more teachers. Football players make so much more

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<v Speaker 2>than teachers. Why is that because to do what bo

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<v Speaker 2>Nicks does or Peyton Manning did is such a rarefied talent.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much there. There's not a lot of competition.

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<v Speaker 2>They are worth it because they bring in more than

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<v Speaker 2>that in money. The reason these guys make this much

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<v Speaker 2>money is because it is worth it to the owners

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<v Speaker 2>to pay them that much and their operations get more money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an investment. If they are only a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>teachers that could do teaching, they might be in the

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<v Speaker 2>same situation. I also like to think about the diversity issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a couple of minority owners of the Bronco, those

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<v Speaker 2>who are African American, including Condolleza Rice was largely performative.

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<v Speaker 2>It was largely for show. It's not like the Waltons

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<v Speaker 2>really needed that extra investment money to pull the deal together.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed the pr cover And I think, why couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>we do the same thing on the field. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>so the NFL does all this talk about equality and equity,

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<v Speaker 2>Black lives matter, and you see it on the helmets

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<v Speaker 2>and on the sidelines and on the end zones. How

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<v Speaker 2>about this? Would you like the Denver Broncos to have

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<v Speaker 2>the same racial makeup as the nation that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could only have twenty percent African Americans on the team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to have so many of this race on

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<v Speaker 2>the team. Even the most craze socialists will go, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't have that, Like, well, why not? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>saying that racial diversity isn't important? Well, it's important in

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<v Speaker 2>your office, but apparently it's not important on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone explained that to me. All right, let's take a

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<v Speaker 2>quick break for news. I'm John Caldera three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eighty five eighty five. Keep it right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on KOA