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<v Speaker 1>Justin worship as host of the Dad podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, do you think you know how we have cold wars?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this going to be like a tariff war? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that a Is that going to be a favor?

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<v Speaker 3>We call them trade wars?

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<v Speaker 4>Ye?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was, I was, I was saying this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>In my lifetime, I can't remember there being this much

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<v Speaker 5>cursufful around a trade war. I'm sure they existed, but

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<v Speaker 5>we weren't paying attention. And now I just feel like

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<v Speaker 5>we have to pay attention. Speaking of the high cost medicine,

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<v Speaker 5>a center from a study from baby Center shows that

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<v Speaker 5>raising a baby can be pretty expensive. That in the

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<v Speaker 5>first year alone, you're talking about twenty grand got.

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<v Speaker 6>Four dollars on average. Which is what did they say?

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<v Speaker 4>They said, it's fifteen percent of moms baby let expenses

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<v Speaker 4>eat up half of what they bring in, half of

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<v Speaker 4>your income for your baby's first year. And they're talking

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<v Speaker 4>like we've been hearing about this decline and birth rate

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<v Speaker 4>and this is the first kind of I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>think that they're well, they do make the connection here,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is the first time I'm seeing this connection.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that I thought it was just like generationally that

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<v Speaker 4>people like millennials were less interested.

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<v Speaker 2>In having families.

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<v Speaker 4>They were more career oriented and they wanted to live

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<v Speaker 4>a more nomadic lifestyle and have freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>So therefore kids weren't a part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But now what we're trying to what we're starting to

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<v Speaker 4>see is that it's possible that there's more economic influence

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<v Speaker 4>because the birth rate in the US is declining, stem

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<v Speaker 4>like people are having less kids. There's more dual income

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<v Speaker 4>no kid type families than there were in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they out like rank like or outnumber

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<v Speaker 4>the parents yet, but it's still it's rising, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of it has.

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<v Speaker 6>To do with the costs well.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know that they make one point in here

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<v Speaker 5>that there's no national paid leave, there's no federal law

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<v Speaker 5>that requires paid leave for parents. But I've never worked

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<v Speaker 5>in a place where it wasn't offered. Yeah where, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>that's just a matter of whether it's local law or

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<v Speaker 5>just a company policy.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you look at like we always love to

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<v Speaker 4>make fun of the Netherlands, right because there it's where

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<v Speaker 4>everybody is happy and they have the largest, the longest

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<v Speaker 4>paid national leap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think who makes fun of people from the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 1>I do you do like you like we would make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of Canadians, you make fun of the people from

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, there's a different.

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<v Speaker 1>Wooden shoes.

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<v Speaker 6>She listens.

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<v Speaker 4>I told you, she listens. I think is what it's

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<v Speaker 4>called the gigs out my pseudon.

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<v Speaker 1>You broadcast from solving.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm spending defective American who I'm fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Always make fun of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, maybe I'm talking to me in the Royal League

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<v Speaker 4>because I think it's just so funny that they are

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<v Speaker 4>always so happy and nobody seems to understand why. And

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<v Speaker 4>then the minute I bring up and say like things

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<v Speaker 4>even amongst friends, not just here, but when I say

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<v Speaker 4>amongst my friends, it's like, oh, well, they have more

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<v Speaker 4>paid apparently if I think they're like I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was closer to nine oh maybe, and they have that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's nine months for a mom and six

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<v Speaker 4>months for a dad is what they get in the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look that up before when we go in the

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<v Speaker 2>next break or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But that the happier nations seem to have longer paid leave.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a federal thing, like I don't know in

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<v Speaker 4>what instances it's actually paid by the federal government. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure that it has to be subsidized in some way,

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<v Speaker 4>shape or form. It's like a disability for lack of

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<v Speaker 4>a better way putting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also a great tax coat in in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty percent of your gross salary can be paid out

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<v Speaker 1>tax free as non taxable allowance?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, but you still got to be in the like

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<v Speaker 4>fifty percent of taxes. There's no way that they're You're

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<v Speaker 4>also just getting a third of their inner.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful there too, nice waterways.

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<v Speaker 2>The Shannon's planning a move and offend it by me

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<v Speaker 2>saying making fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You read it from the work for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Commerce or something.

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<v Speaker 6>He's doing another trip you gonna go?

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<v Speaker 5>I stopped there on the way to a don't yeahcakes.

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<v Speaker 6>That's like almost a ten year old fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this.

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<v Speaker 6>A long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Shadow were filling it on the Morning show when

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<v Speaker 4>I worked there. Just mentioned about going to Europe, and

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<v Speaker 4>Gary evidently gets very upset whenever she talks about her

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<v Speaker 4>travels because he feels like his children are sandbags and

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<v Speaker 4>weigh him down from being.

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<v Speaker 3>Able to experience it. It's rooted in my deep jealous.

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<v Speaker 6>And as a person who walks with children. I agree wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it is fair that it's the shouldn't she

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<v Speaker 6>should be burdened with at.

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<v Speaker 4>Least a bag of flour or some eggs that she

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<v Speaker 4>has to care for, like it's a junior year.

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<v Speaker 6>In high school again.

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<v Speaker 5>And listen, you and I may both be older than Shannon,

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<v Speaker 5>but because of the benefit of having squeezed.

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<v Speaker 3>Out a couple of kids, we're smarter. We are smarter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 5>Science will prove it, Gary Channon will so much belief

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<v Speaker 5>in your eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a parent keeps the brain young, so says science.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Worsham, host of The Dad podcast, is with us.

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<v Speaker 1>His hips don't lie. I've been worked on.

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<v Speaker 6>A physical therapist did some It's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole thing strong hips. So what's what's the deal with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just because your brain has to stay active

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got kids, especially multiple at just the multitasker,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire your whole life.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>They did multiple brain studies in Britain and they showed

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<v Speaker 4>that when they looked at the not only there was

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<v Speaker 4>a direct correlation between people who didn't have kids and

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<v Speaker 4>people who had kids, but also even more to support

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<v Speaker 4>their evidence, was the more kids you had, the longer

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<v Speaker 4>your brain stayed active, and it was because of use.

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<v Speaker 4>Like to me, there was a my r pediatrician gave

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<v Speaker 4>the kids this kind of speech when we went in

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<v Speaker 4>there and saying, you got to watch how many how

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<v Speaker 4>much time you spend playing video games, and she said

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<v Speaker 4>the reason is is because if you spend most of

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<v Speaker 4>your time playing video games, then the neurons in your

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<v Speaker 4>brain that are used for playing video games become very

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<v Speaker 4>strong and very open and can fire fast.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're neglecting the other parts of your brain like

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<v Speaker 2>your hips.

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<v Speaker 4>Your hips, you need to get out there and do

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<v Speaker 4>some pilates boys, uh, and so so you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do these other things so that you're well rounded in

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<v Speaker 4>that area, and so with parents, because so much of

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<v Speaker 4>your life is about social connection with kids, and the

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<v Speaker 4>more kids you have, so those parts of your brain.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing that blew my brain, my brain, was

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<v Speaker 4>that it's also your motor function is more like grip

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<v Speaker 4>strength is something that they actually use to assess your

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<v Speaker 4>motor ability because you're that part of the frontal cortex

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<v Speaker 4>of your brain controls how hard you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can squeeze your hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've you've tried to hold kids down, haven't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course that's but.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess I guess what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to be a wet blanket on your humor, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm what I'm saying is that I never would have

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<v Speaker 4>thought that you having a stronger frontal stronger frontal cortex.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my verbal cortex obviously, but.

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<v Speaker 4>For motor skills because of kids, would make my grip

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<v Speaker 4>strength stronger later on in life. Like that, that's fascinating

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<v Speaker 4>to me, Am I done?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I think you're right. Because there's no gen

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<v Speaker 5>there's no brain, you should not have children.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you understand deal with frustration and anchor.

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<v Speaker 3>They do describe.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, no more puppies for you, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Caregiving is the highly sensory process involving coordinated movements. The

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<v Speaker 5>holding the cradle and defeating the children can engage multiple

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<v Speaker 5>sensory systems, but obviously you're using muscles with that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Just my wife used to have this very specific way

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<v Speaker 5>that she would hold one of the kids on her hip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like they're like making a half moon shape out

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<v Speaker 4>of their back, and I don't understand how that works.

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<v Speaker 5>And she would talk about that, of course, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>that made her that strengthened whatever that side. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>she would switch from side to side, but she would

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<v Speaker 5>talk about that being a very specific feeling of that

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<v Speaker 5>was strengthened. Especially as the kids grow from you know,

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<v Speaker 5>eight pounds up to.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty pounds. I don't know when you stopped crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever they grow to, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how big number one and number two,

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<v Speaker 3>I know which one was.

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<v Speaker 4>Fir impressed me too that my wife could literally carry

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<v Speaker 4>a child like a toddler around all day at like

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<v Speaker 4>a theme park. Right, But when it comes to taking

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<v Speaker 4>four or five bags of groceries, can you get these

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<v Speaker 4>big guys?

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a Ruffles counseling.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not that. Yeah, I'm not even gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>at you for the rest of the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Overdone.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we had some time here.

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<v Speaker 6>Can we unpack what I just said?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I need not a great idea?

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<v Speaker 5>She done enough, She unloaded two kids, and now you

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to unload four or five bags of groceries.

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<v Speaker 4>So many times I defend you with her, and now

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna jump on this bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be safe too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to protect you. You see this, I'm helping you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go next door and start my apology tours

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<v Speaker 4>the world, but especially my wife.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't saying it was bad. I just was like,

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<v Speaker 6>it was interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that she taught the kids, she carried the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and she carried the kids on her hip, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she like grocery shops.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure this doesn't argument. But I told her about

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<v Speaker 6>to breastfeed.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you've taught her to I'm sure she would find

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<v Speaker 5>that interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, let's get her on the horn.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's car also an awful idea, so never want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear I taught my wife how to breastfeed again.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, alright, well I had a good run.

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<v Speaker 5>You can see why that was all I do. Think

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<v Speaker 5>you have a good sitcom pitch. Justin Worsham, the world's

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<v Speaker 5>first male lactation consultant.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see that coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>No w B, everybody's going to use that talkback feature

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<v Speaker 4>right now and you're gonna get blown up on how

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<v Speaker 4>many people, how many guys know how to teach ala?

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<v Speaker 1>I have never done that. I know I just did

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<v Speaker 1>a child, but in my head, I I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything that would be more infuriating than my husband

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<v Speaker 1>telling me how to make that s work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>almost said the real word, like that to me sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst version of calm down I've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is actual weaponized mansplain.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the onion was to write an article about man splaining.

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<v Speaker 4>They would use my life example.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll land on a dateline with Keith Morrison talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why she is my soulmate because she found

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<v Speaker 4>it amusing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's like she doesn't look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you have to.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm never coming back here again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we love you.

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<v Speaker 6>I know. That's why it makes it so infuriating.

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<v Speaker 5>Twelve o'clock hour is coming up next. Gary and Shannon

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<v Speaker 5>will continue right after.

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<v Speaker 1>Use that then