Speaker 1: Justin worship as host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, do you think you know how we have cold wars?
Speaker 2: Is this going to be like a tariff war? Is
Speaker 2: that a Is that going to be a favor?
Speaker 3: We call them trade wars?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 3: So I was, I was, I was saying this yesterday.
Speaker 5: In my lifetime, I can't remember there being this much
Speaker 5: cursufful around a trade war. I'm sure they existed, but
Speaker 5: we weren't paying attention. And now I just feel like
Speaker 5: we have to pay attention. Speaking of the high cost medicine,
Speaker 5: a center from a study from baby Center shows that
Speaker 5: raising a baby can be pretty expensive. That in the
Speaker 5: first year alone, you're talking about twenty grand got.
Speaker 6: Four dollars on average. Which is what did they say?
Speaker 4: They said, it's fifteen percent of moms baby let expenses
Speaker 4: eat up half of what they bring in, half of
Speaker 4: your income for your baby's first year. And they're talking
Speaker 4: like we've been hearing about this decline and birth rate
Speaker 4: and this is the first kind of I don't even
Speaker 4: think that they're well, they do make the connection here,
Speaker 4: but this is the first time I'm seeing this connection.
Speaker 4: Is that I thought it was just like generationally that
Speaker 4: people like millennials were less interested.
Speaker 2: In having families.
Speaker 4: They were more career oriented and they wanted to live
Speaker 4: a more nomadic lifestyle and have freedom.
Speaker 2: So therefore kids weren't a part of it.
Speaker 4: But now what we're trying to what we're starting to
Speaker 4: see is that it's possible that there's more economic influence
Speaker 4: because the birth rate in the US is declining, stem
Speaker 4: like people are having less kids. There's more dual income
Speaker 4: no kid type families than there were in the past.
Speaker 4: I don't think they out like rank like or outnumber
Speaker 4: the parents yet, but it's still it's rising, and I
Speaker 4: think a lot of it has.
Speaker 6: To do with the costs well.
Speaker 5: And I know that they make one point in here
Speaker 5: that there's no national paid leave, there's no federal law
Speaker 5: that requires paid leave for parents. But I've never worked
Speaker 5: in a place where it wasn't offered. Yeah where, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's just a matter of whether it's local law or
Speaker 5: just a company policy.
Speaker 4: And when you look at like we always love to
Speaker 4: make fun of the Netherlands, right because there it's where
Speaker 4: everybody is happy and they have the largest, the longest
Speaker 4: paid national leap.
Speaker 1: I think who makes fun of people from the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: I do you do like you like we would make
Speaker 1: fun of Canadians, you make fun of the people from
Speaker 1: the Netherlands.
Speaker 6: Wait, there's a different.
Speaker 1: Wooden shoes.
Speaker 6: She listens.
Speaker 4: I told you, she listens. I think is what it's
Speaker 4: called the gigs out my pseudon.
Speaker 1: You broadcast from solving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm spending defective American who I'm fun.
Speaker 1: Always make fun of the.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe I'm talking to me in the Royal League
Speaker 4: because I think it's just so funny that they are
Speaker 4: always so happy and nobody seems to understand why. And
Speaker 4: then the minute I bring up and say like things
Speaker 4: even amongst friends, not just here, but when I say
Speaker 4: amongst my friends, it's like, oh, well, they have more
Speaker 4: paid apparently if I think they're like I thought it
Speaker 4: was closer to nine oh maybe, and they have that.
Speaker 4: I think it's nine months for a mom and six
Speaker 4: months for a dad is what they get in the Netherlands.
Speaker 2: I'll look that up before when we go in the
Speaker 2: next break or whatever.
Speaker 4: But that the happier nations seem to have longer paid leave.
Speaker 4: That is a federal thing, like I don't know in
Speaker 4: what instances it's actually paid by the federal government. I'm
Speaker 4: sure that it has to be subsidized in some way,
Speaker 4: shape or form. It's like a disability for lack of
Speaker 4: a better way putting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also a great tax coat in in Amsterdam.
Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: Thirty percent of your gross salary can be paid out
Speaker 1: tax free as non taxable allowance?
Speaker 4: Wow, but you still got to be in the like
Speaker 4: fifty percent of taxes. There's no way that they're You're
Speaker 4: also just getting a third of their inner.
Speaker 1: Beautiful there too, nice waterways.
Speaker 2: The Shannon's planning a move and offend it by me
Speaker 2: saying making fun.
Speaker 1: You read it from the work for the.
Speaker 3: Commerce or something.
Speaker 6: He's doing another trip you gonna go?
Speaker 5: I stopped there on the way to a don't yeahcakes.
Speaker 6: That's like almost a ten year old fit.
Speaker 1: Now, this.
Speaker 6: A long time ago.
Speaker 4: Gary Shadow were filling it on the Morning show when
Speaker 4: I worked there. Just mentioned about going to Europe, and
Speaker 4: Gary evidently gets very upset whenever she talks about her
Speaker 4: travels because he feels like his children are sandbags and
Speaker 4: weigh him down from being.
Speaker 3: Able to experience it. It's rooted in my deep jealous.
Speaker 6: And as a person who walks with children. I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 6: I think it is fair that it's the shouldn't she
Speaker 6: should be burdened with at.
Speaker 4: Least a bag of flour or some eggs that she
Speaker 4: has to care for, like it's a junior year.
Speaker 6: In high school again.
Speaker 5: And listen, you and I may both be older than Shannon,
Speaker 5: but because of the benefit of having squeezed.
Speaker 3: Out a couple of kids, we're smarter. We are smarter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 5: Science will prove it, Gary Channon will so much belief
Speaker 5: in your eye.
Speaker 1: Being a parent keeps the brain young, so says science.
Speaker 1: Justin Worsham, host of The Dad podcast, is with us.
Speaker 1: His hips don't lie. I've been worked on.
Speaker 6: A physical therapist did some It's a.
Speaker 1: Whole thing strong hips. So what's what's the deal with this?
Speaker 1: Is it just because your brain has to stay active
Speaker 1: when you've got kids, especially multiple at just the multitasker,
Speaker 1: the entire your whole life.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They did multiple brain studies in Britain and they showed
Speaker 4: that when they looked at the not only there was
Speaker 4: a direct correlation between people who didn't have kids and
Speaker 4: people who had kids, but also even more to support
Speaker 4: their evidence, was the more kids you had, the longer
Speaker 4: your brain stayed active, and it was because of use.
Speaker 4: Like to me, there was a my r pediatrician gave
Speaker 4: the kids this kind of speech when we went in
Speaker 4: there and saying, you got to watch how many how
Speaker 4: much time you spend playing video games, and she said
Speaker 4: the reason is is because if you spend most of
Speaker 4: your time playing video games, then the neurons in your
Speaker 4: brain that are used for playing video games become very
Speaker 4: strong and very open and can fire fast.
Speaker 2: But you're neglecting the other parts of your brain like
Speaker 2: your hips.
Speaker 4: Your hips, you need to get out there and do
Speaker 4: some pilates boys, uh, and so so you have to
Speaker 4: do these other things so that you're well rounded in
Speaker 4: that area, and so with parents, because so much of
Speaker 4: your life is about social connection with kids, and the
Speaker 4: more kids you have, so those parts of your brain.
Speaker 4: But the thing that blew my brain, my brain, was
Speaker 4: that it's also your motor function is more like grip
Speaker 4: strength is something that they actually use to assess your
Speaker 4: motor ability because you're that part of the frontal cortex
Speaker 4: of your brain controls how hard you.
Speaker 2: Can squeeze your hand.
Speaker 3: Well, you've you've tried to hold kids down, haven't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's but.
Speaker 6: I guess I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Not to be a wet blanket on your humor, but
Speaker 4: I'm what I'm saying is that I never would have
Speaker 4: thought that you having a stronger frontal stronger frontal cortex.
Speaker 2: Not my verbal cortex obviously, but.
Speaker 4: For motor skills because of kids, would make my grip
Speaker 4: strength stronger later on in life. Like that, that's fascinating
Speaker 4: to me, Am I done?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think you're right. Because there's no gen
Speaker 5: there's no brain, you should not have children.
Speaker 4: I don't think you understand deal with frustration and anchor.
Speaker 3: They do describe.
Speaker 6: Also, no more puppies for you, okay.
Speaker 5: Caregiving is the highly sensory process involving coordinated movements. The
Speaker 5: holding the cradle and defeating the children can engage multiple
Speaker 5: sensory systems, but obviously you're using muscles with that as well.
Speaker 5: Just my wife used to have this very specific way
Speaker 5: that she would hold one of the kids on her hip.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it.
Speaker 4: Looks like they're like making a half moon shape out
Speaker 4: of their back, and I don't understand how that works.
Speaker 5: And she would talk about that, of course, I mean
Speaker 5: that made her that strengthened whatever that side. I mean
Speaker 5: she would switch from side to side, but she would
Speaker 5: talk about that being a very specific feeling of that
Speaker 5: was strengthened. Especially as the kids grow from you know,
Speaker 5: eight pounds up to.
Speaker 3: Eighty pounds. I don't know when you stopped crazy.
Speaker 6: Whatever they grow to, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how big number one and number two,
Speaker 3: I know which one was.
Speaker 4: Fir impressed me too that my wife could literally carry
Speaker 4: a child like a toddler around all day at like
Speaker 4: a theme park. Right, But when it comes to taking
Speaker 4: four or five bags of groceries, can you get these
Speaker 4: big guys?
Speaker 3: This is not a Ruffles counseling.
Speaker 1: This is not that. Yeah, I'm not even gonna look
Speaker 1: at you for the rest of the time.
Speaker 6: Overdone.
Speaker 3: I thought we had some time here.
Speaker 6: Can we unpack what I just said?
Speaker 3: Do I need not a great idea?
Speaker 5: She done enough, She unloaded two kids, and now you
Speaker 5: wanted to unload four or five bags of groceries.
Speaker 4: So many times I defend you with her, and now
Speaker 4: you're gonna jump on this bandwagon.
Speaker 1: He wants to be safe too.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to protect you. You see this, I'm helping you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go next door and start my apology tours
Speaker 4: the world, but especially my wife.
Speaker 6: I wasn't saying it was bad. I just was like,
Speaker 6: it was interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Why is that she taught the kids, she carried the kids,
Speaker 1: and she carried the kids on her hip, and then
Speaker 1: she like grocery shops.
Speaker 6: I'm sure this doesn't argument. But I told her about
Speaker 6: to breastfeed.
Speaker 5: Okay, you've taught her to I'm sure she would find
Speaker 5: that interesting.
Speaker 6: Also, let's get her on the horn.
Speaker 1: Let's car also an awful idea, so never want to
Speaker 1: hear I taught my wife how to breastfeed again.
Speaker 2: Ever, alright, well I had a good run.
Speaker 5: You can see why that was all I do. Think
Speaker 5: you have a good sitcom pitch. Justin Worsham, the world's
Speaker 5: first male lactation consultant.
Speaker 3: I could see that coming up.
Speaker 4: No w B, everybody's going to use that talkback feature
Speaker 4: right now and you're gonna get blown up on how
Speaker 4: many people, how many guys know how to teach ala?
Speaker 1: I have never done that. I know I just did
Speaker 1: a child, but in my head, I I can't think
Speaker 1: of anything that would be more infuriating than my husband
Speaker 1: telling me how to make that s work. And I
Speaker 1: almost said the real word, like that to me sounds
Speaker 1: like the worst version of calm down I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: Like you do it.
Speaker 3: That is actual weaponized mansplain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the onion was to write an article about man splaining.
Speaker 4: They would use my life example.
Speaker 1: That'll land on a dateline with Keith Morrison talking about
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 4: This is why she is my soulmate because she found
Speaker 4: it amusing.
Speaker 6: That's like she doesn't look at this.
Speaker 2: It's like you have to.
Speaker 6: I'm never coming back here again.
Speaker 1: You know we love you.
Speaker 6: I know. That's why it makes it so infuriating.
Speaker 5: Twelve o'clock hour is coming up next. Gary and Shannon
Speaker 5: will continue right after.
Speaker 1: Use that then