WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:08.800 My billy coming in the Great America. 2 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:11.560 Welcome This Tuesday afternoon in the Tri State Reds Baseball 3 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:14.800 kicks off about five forty. Keep hope alive. You gotta 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.079 have faith with the Reds. All you have is hope, 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:19.000 and I keep hope alive. They won four in a 6 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.160 row soon five, six, and seven, marching for glory. Every 7 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.879 team in front of them yesterday lost. So is there 8 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:26.320 a Pennant race underway? 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:27.839 Is that real? 10 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:31.120 We'll find out later today and tomorrow Business Special. Plus 11 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.759 later on we have a scheduled Senator John Houston of 12 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.039 the Great State of Ohio to talk about the riots 13 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:38.679 in la and so much more. Plus later on we've 14 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:42.000 scheduled Richard K. Jones, the sheriff who has three to 15 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.359 five hundred protesters out in front of the Butler County 16 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:45.759 Jail quite unhappy. 17 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:46.719 But until then. 18 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:48.600 In one of the stories that has just dominated the 19 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.079 Tri State, a deep sadness, as Patrick Herringer was butchered 20 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.479 in his own home. I'll say his name one time. 21 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.600 Mordecai Black, who should not have been out and his 22 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.599 wife Sarah posted online at just a heart rendering recitation 23 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.959 of the failures of the city to provide law and 24 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.280 order and one of the great state reps in northern Kentucky. 25 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.560 I think it's the half of Campbell County is Representative 26 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.560 Mike Kleins, and he contacted us to talk about his 27 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.680 friend Patrick, who was butchered in his own home by 28 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.400 someone who should not have been out whatsoever? Joining us 29 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.879 now is that same state representative Mike Cleins And Mike welcome, 30 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.040 I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. 31 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:32.879 And can you tell the American people your relationship with 32 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.159 Patrick and indirectly Sarah his lovely wife or shall I 33 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:36.799 say the widow? 34 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.599 What was your relationship with Patrick? 35 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.200 All Right, I thank you, mister Cunningham. I'm a certainly 36 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.000 a long time listener and as you said, the first 37 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.319 time on the show, and maybe I could come back 38 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.359 sometime with a much lighter topic. So Patrick's my second cousin. 39 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.959 We spent over ten year Christmas Eves together. He was 40 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.920 like a little brother where he would hope for things 41 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.319 that I've received in the past. We grew up on 42 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:01.840 the same road his mom and dad's wedding and his 43 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.239 dad was in my mom AND's dad's wedding, So I 44 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:08.159 really enjoyed watching Patrick grow older and watched him and 45 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:14.280 developed into the man he became, and the beautiful relationship 46 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:15.319 he had with his wife's. 47 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.479 There as far as his history, he's the kind of 48 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:21.680 guy I like to have known during the living years 49 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:28.560 army volunteerism Iraq, Afghanistan. Tough guy but with a big heart, 50 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:32.080 met his wife. I think in Colorado came back, was 51 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.960 like an urban pioneer. Wanted to go in and around 52 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.520 Findlay Market, which as you know, is a great facility 53 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.400 most of the time, except in the evening hours might 54 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:41.199 get a little bit rough. 55 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:42.639 But can you. 56 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:44.840 Give us more of the social history of Patrick as 57 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.439 far as his contributions to the nation and what kind 58 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:48.199 of person he was. 59 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.439 Well, I appreciate you allowing me to do that because 60 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:53.719 I think before we get into the politics, you know, 61 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.199 I would certainly like to talk about Patrick the person, 62 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.319 because I think in some ways he's been dehumanized in 63 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.680 the fact that no one was really talking about about 64 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.520 him more so than just what happened. So he certainly 65 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.879 was compassionate about his fellow man and helping others. He 66 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.479 you know, obviously by his accomplishment, he was a great leader, 67 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.960 but also a great listener. He certainly loved his wife Sarah, 68 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.439 and they completed each other. You know, he was he 69 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.479 was a beacon for others, Willie. He would tell you 70 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.719 what you needed to hear, maybe not wanted to hear, 71 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.199 but it was honest and came from a place concerned 72 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:26.599 and love. 73 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:27.360 You know. 74 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:29.639 At the gym he had over a three hundred clients, 75 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.400 so he obviously made people feel safe inside of themselves 76 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.199 and inside of the gym, and just to be a 77 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:40.039 better version of themselves, you know, Sis said. You know, 78 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.879 he survived towards in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even though 79 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:47.280 some of his buddies didn't, but he couldn't survive Cincinnati. 80 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.360 You know, he was the best of humanity and he 81 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:50.560 met the worst of humanity. 82 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:51.639 Uh. 83 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.159 And the more we find out about this, this bloodthirsty murderer, 84 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.319 the more angry one becomes about how the system failed. 85 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.680 I think today Brian comes pointed out earlier, there's some 86 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.599 sort of public safety a meeting in the city of Cincinnati, 87 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:07.800 but this is not on the docket. They're going to 88 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.000 talk about soccer. They're going to talk about the maybe 89 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.199 the World Cup. They're going to talk about certain other issues, 90 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:16.040 but public safety will not talk about what happened to 91 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:20.720 Patrick and as as a Cincinnati And although I have 92 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.439 not lived in the city of Cincinnati, almost my entire 93 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.680 life has been in and around it, whether it's Covington 94 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:29.199 or Erlang or Ellesmere and deer Park and Kenwood, I 95 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.680 haven't But this is there a reason. Do you think 96 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.639 this has struck the heart of individuals who say, this 97 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.879 is the moment in which we can't continue to have 98 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.519 a city that is so unsafe? Is that that critical 99 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:41.240 moment do you think? 100 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.920 You know it is, Willie, and you know the city 101 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.600 leaders should be outraged. You know they should be coming 102 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.680 out with a warning to criminals, Hey, we're not going 103 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.079 to take this in our city. You know the city 104 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.399 leaders are quiet now, which they are, then I would 105 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.360 let that be a warning to the residents and business 106 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.920 since now that you're not safe on the streets of Cincinnati. 107 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:06.000 You know, people want to talk about everything that's changing, 108 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.079 everything is changing, Well, no one really wants to talk 109 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:13.439 about what's not changing. And if you're a politician, you 110 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.839 could run and one of the things that's not changing 111 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.240 is safety needs. You could have run on a two 112 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:20.959 hundred years ago or you can run on a two 113 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.040 hundred years from now. So you have this meeting and 114 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.079 they want to talk about everything that's changing, Well how 115 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.839 about we talk about things that aren't changing. And if 116 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:32.079 you look at me as those hierarchy of needs, I 117 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.680 think safety needs is probably number two on the pyramid. 118 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:36.000 Charge. 119 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.959 Yeah, yet it can't make that. It can't make the 120 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.439 dock at tonight when you know an American hero has 121 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.079 been butchered on the second floor of his own home. 122 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:46.199 You know what you said. 123 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:50.199 He survived to Rock, but it couldn't survive OTR, couldn't 124 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.040 survive Cincinnati. I had on I think the other day 125 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:55.759 that Scott Sloan had on Ken Kober, the head of 126 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.199 the FOP. And we've done this topic for years, if 127 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.199 not decades, and any particular point, there might be one 128 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:06.480 Cincinnati police officer between the Ohio River and the UC campus, 129 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.839 between the north end of OTR and all the way 130 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:14.720 through downtown Cincinnati, there's one cop online who's actually policing, 131 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.199 and the rest of it is left on guarded. In fact, 132 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.319 when I had on Dan Hills, the sergeant who was 133 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.600 head of the FLP for years, he said there were 134 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.519 parts of District four and five that had no police officers, 135 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.399 they had none available, and the city's down about one 136 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:33.680 hundred and fifty cops. How is it possible that Mordecai 137 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.199 Black can walk around OTR I would assume parts of 138 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:41.040 downtown Cincinnati also with a butcher knife in his hands, 139 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.040 and no one asked him, what in the hell are 140 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.279 you doing. If they'd done that, they would have known. 141 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.519 This is the guy that has warns out for his arrest. 142 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.240 He was released in January having served about nine and 143 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.160 a half years. In February, within a few weeks of 144 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.560 getting out of prison Ross Correctional Institution, he cuts off 145 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:02.920 the ankle bracelet and at that point the the message 146 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.759 goes out that this guy is a fleeing felon. We 147 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:09.079 got to find him. Between February and June, there was 148 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:13.639 no effort, zero efforts to find Mordecai Black, who was 149 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:18.279 a vicious murderer. He was a rapist, he was a burglar, 150 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.079 he was a drug dealer. He kicked the crap out 151 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.199 of people on Fountain Square, and that finally got him 152 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.319 ten years in jail. The rest of the time, he 153 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.240 was a career criminal who, by the way, committed a 154 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.279 burglary sometime in May, for which that they believe he 155 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.120 was the one that did it, but didn't look for him. 156 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.399 What as I say about law enforcement when convicted criminals 157 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.519 and murderers walk the streets with a butcher knife in 158 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:42.319 their hands and no cops are available, no cop hasn't 159 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.319 on the radar. And when I talked cops on the 160 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:49.040 front line state representative of my clients, they tell me 161 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.439 they're not incentivized to go chasing people. They don't want 162 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.920 to have a situation they have to confront someone. We 163 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.680 have speed bumps in Cincinnati instead of traffic control. And 164 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.879 your comment, you're in politics now. You spent most of 165 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.639 your life in the public edge and private education as 166 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:10.199 a Catholic. But this should be okay, f Ted Pirival 167 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.839 and the chief of police should hold held a news 168 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.639 conference a few days ago and said this is what happened, 169 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.199 and this is what's going to change. But guess what, 170 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.879 nothing's going to change unless it is forced to be changed, 171 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.279 and I doubt that's going to happen. What you're feeling 172 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.759 as a Northern Kentuckian about walking around the streets of 173 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:28.800 downtown Cincinnati or OTR. 174 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.039 After this, well a couple of things, Willy. First of all, 175 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.399 I think we all know that you put your money 176 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.519 into what's important to you. In the city of Cincinnati, 177 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.840 if they're not putting their money into the safety needs 178 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:43.519 of its residents, then it's not important to the leaders 179 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.679 of Cincinnati. You know, if it takes a state representative 180 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:51.240 from Kentucky to advocate for Patrick and the elect officials 181 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:54.639 are going to put Sarah Herringer up against the system. 182 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.200 You know, it's like the five stages of grief, Willy. 183 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.480 And you know the system, once hurt it, just accept 184 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.320 it and go away. And to your point about visiting 185 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.919 the city, you know, my wife and my brother and 186 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.000 my sister in law went to the game on Saturday. 187 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.480 You know, we got there at three o'clock. We parked 188 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.000 in downtown, paid twenty five dollars, happy to support the city. 189 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:16.919 And you know, my brother gets out of the car. 190 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.200 We start walking and he says, you know, after what 191 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.279 happened to Patrick, I don't know if I feel comfortable 192 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.240 walking to the reside game. So you know, you can 193 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.080 have all these rankings you want, which I just heard 194 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:29.559 about Cincinnati's number one ranking today, But let's get underneath 195 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.840 the surface and see, you know, how we're going to 196 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.559 protect our residents and how we're going to protect our 197 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.279 visitors and a great I ain't know. And Frankfurt, I'm 198 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.200 down there telling him what a great place in northern 199 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.120 Kentucky is. You know, we have three major league sports 200 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.200 teams right across the river. I mean, who has that? 201 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.639 You know, my my, my friends and Frankfurt are rooting 202 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:54.039 for the Tennessee Titans because that's the closest team to them. 203 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:59.320 So you know it's great, you know, to be able 204 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.080 to like the mayor, I guess you know the half style, 205 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:03.360 half fashion. 206 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:04.799 Be a good public speaker. 207 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.440 Yes, you know, you know I give him an a 208 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.960 on that, even as Communications department I give him an A. 209 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.039 But you know, when it comes to governance and leadership, 210 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.960 I mean, based upon what I've witnessed as an outsider, 211 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:18.960 you know, it's an F and I gave a lot 212 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.159 of grades as a former English teacher on all different 213 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:22.519 types of projects. 214 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.159 Well, we hit this ought to be that moment, how 215 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.200 to be the Kyle Plush moment in which Kyle Plush 216 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.159 died upside down in a parking lot at Seven Hills 217 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.399 High School Because the nine to one one system was 218 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.639 completely dysfunctional, and this little boy is dying upside down 219 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.080 in the back of a car and the police can't 220 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.639 locate him. The nine to one one system doesn't work nobody. 221 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:45.679 And now all of a sudden that changed. And it's 222 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.399 been almost a week since the Blood Thursday murder of 223 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.960 Patrick Herringer, and at this point there's complete utter silence, 224 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.720 And I know the reason. The reason is they want 225 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.440 to talk about They want to talk about public safety 226 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.360 when it comes to the World Cup, ancillary games are coming. 227 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.919 They want to talk about the fact that the crime 228 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:07.360 rate is down in some areas. 229 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:08.279 I don't believe that either. 230 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.679 By the way State rep my clients, there's a differential 231 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:16.279 between crimes committed and crimes reported. There are so many 232 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.679 hundreds of crimes committed, no tr and the city of 233 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:23.200 Cincinnati downtown that are not reported because the victims say 234 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.480 it is worthless to report crimes. Did you know that 235 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.840 every year there's about twenty thousand shots fired in the 236 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.759 city of Cincinnati every year, and every shot that is 237 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.799 fired is a felony being committed. Twenty thousand shots fired 238 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.600 and fortunately only five hundred people are wounded and only 239 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.120 about seventy to ninety are killed. But there's a sense 240 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.799 in the city that your car is going to be 241 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.360 broken into, your home is going to be burglarized, and 242 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:52.320 there's derelics begging for money with knives in their hands, 243 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.320 and nothing is reported about that because there's no effective 244 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.679 law enforcement, because the cops are told to be passive, 245 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.480 and when your passive and law enforcement, that sends the 246 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:09.000 messages not consequences. Fortunately, in this one case with Mordecai Black, 247 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:12.240 he happened to have a good sentencing judge ten years ago. 248 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.320 Her name is Megan Shanahan, who after committed dozens of 249 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.039 felonies over most of his life, said enough is enough 250 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.639 and she put him in prison for ten years, which 251 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.759 was the maximum she could have given him. Then he 252 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.159 gets out and when he cut off his ankle bracelet, 253 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.960 there should have been a full court press to find 254 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.960 this guy walking around OTR with a butcher knife because 255 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.000 he's going to kill somebody, and that wasn't the circumstance. 256 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.799 And so I can only imagine a Newport is Newport 257 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.240 in your Campbell County district. 258 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.639 It's not in my district. It's certainly in Campbell. 259 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.440 County, oh if Campbell County had thousands of shots fired 260 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:51.840 every year in Newport and there was people walking around 261 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:55.080 that were criminal, mentally ill with a butcher knife, I 262 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.039 would hope somebody in Newport would say, you know that 263 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.080 guy right there, let's see who he is, and then 264 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.120 quickly he would have been a rested and Patrick would 265 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.120 be alive today. And I can't conceive of this not 266 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.240 being that moment. And the politicians in Cincinnati all are 267 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.200 looking forward to move up the ladder. I mean, I 268 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.720 have to have Purival season itself in the White House. 269 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.080 And there are many other on City Council who are 270 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.120 social activists and one to fully fund the iris Rolie 271 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.039 and the collaborative working with the quote community unquote to 272 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.799 lower crime. The crimes committed are way up, and even 273 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.480 in OTR there's six hundred and some crimes committed so 274 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.440 far this year. Can you imagine in your community, my clients, 275 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.320 that there was six hundred and fifty four felonies committed 276 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:37.120 in your community. 277 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:38.399 Would that be like a meltdown? 278 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.720 Well, you know, fortunately in Kentucky in twenty twenty four, 279 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.000 we passed House Bill five, which is the Safer Kentucky Act, 280 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.720 And you know It puts teeth into a lot of 281 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:53.120 different areas when it comes to law enforcement and handling 282 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.279 these criminals. And we had to be too. We had 283 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.480 to override the governor's b too, just to get that passed. 284 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.960 You know, people talk about, you know, care, and you know, 285 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:06.799 when I was a guidance counselor, I'd had to have 286 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.320 students and you know, maybe with struggle in class, and 287 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.320 we would try all these interventions and at the end 288 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.159 we would just come up with how do you make 289 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.480 someone care? And I would say that the census since 290 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:20.039 the city of Cincinnati, Yeah, you can use the word care. 291 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.759 We care, We care, But I'm starting to wonder and like, 292 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.360 how can I make you care? I mean, our family 293 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:29.440 is devastated and people are angry, and we need people 294 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.480 to care. And you know, leadership is about how well 295 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:35.720 you handle the hard things, and inevitably that's how you 296 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.120 earn your reputation. You know, well, these hard things don't 297 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:42.559 go away, These these issues, these these crime issues and 298 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.279 these safeties issues, and Cincinnati aren't going to go away. 299 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.559 You just need to get better at handling the hard, 300 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.879 hard things, you know. And my question to Cincinnati is 301 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.960 the Cincinnati get getting any better at handling the hard issues. 302 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:59.919 I know, because the election's coming up again and it's 303 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.600 going to be a brand new council. I bet you 304 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.200 a dollar to a donut that come November the sixth, 305 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:06.960 the day after the election, the same crew is going 306 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.559 to be in there as before. Because you know, if 307 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.399 someone involved in the high school and the growing up 308 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.600 in high school and educating and teaching, the last thing 309 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:19.440 a disparate youth needs is more midnight basketball or roller 310 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.679 derby or let's open up the bowling lanes. There's three 311 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:27.399 simple rules in life. Graduate from high school work and 312 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.399 number three is don't commit crime, and you don't need 313 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.799 government programs to have Okay, how many of the kids 314 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.440 are roaming the streets of Cincinnati have graduated from high school, 315 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.000 are presently working a forty hour job, and three not 316 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.639 committing crime. And all you got to do to make 317 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:48.360 it in America is graduate from high school work and 318 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.080 don't commit crime. Do you need a government program to 319 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:51.360 do that? 320 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.240 We do not. And we can we can go all 321 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.600 about the prison system. I mean, we could take a 322 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.320 deep dive into this, but crisis equals change, you know, 323 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:03.960 and this is a crisis and there needs to be 324 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.759 a change. I mean, I'm sure. Well, I'm going to 325 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:10.759 guess from my leadership experience, there are private meetings being 326 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.120 held now, you know, maybe between Sarah and some of 327 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.879 the city leaders. You know, I'm not positive, but you know, 328 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.720 are those genuine and sincere? Are those to check the box. 329 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:24.759 So when I get my next speech, I can say, hey, 330 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.720 I met with the victim's wife. And you know, only 331 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:30.600 time is going to tell with something like that. And 332 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.879 you know, we all pray that, you know, our family 333 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.399 members aren't going to become a statistic or this isn't 334 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:38.679 going to happen to our family members, And it is 335 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:40.679 a hope and it is a prayer. And as you know, 336 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.559 sometimes those aren't answered. And in this case, it wasn't 337 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.799 answered for Patrick and Sarah and his mom and dad, 338 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:51.200 Wayne and Karen and his sister carry devastating. 339 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.759 He survived, you rock, but he couldn't survive downtown Cincinnati. 340 00:16:59.360 --> 00:16:59.960 Shake my head. 341 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:01.080 I just shake my head. 342 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.440 And you know, Patrick's legacy demand's justice, There's no doubt 343 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.920 about it. I hope this person deserves the strongest and 344 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.759 gets the strongest possible pursuit of justice. You know, I 345 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:18.240 think over the Rye safety crisis requires immediate action. I mean, 346 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.680 this isn't but this isn't new, right, Well, this is 347 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.839 nothing new, and Cincinnati needs leadership. I mean, you know, 348 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:32.839 any successful organization, whether it's government, sports, schools, radio stations, 349 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.279 I mean, it all comes down to leadership. And if 350 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.400 you have career politicians or politicians who want to just 351 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.119 get to the next level, when I god forbid, it's 352 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.960 not the Peter principle where people they've already reached their 353 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:49.400 level of incompetence. But when you have that, I mean, 354 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.000 that's Hugh's everything. 355 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:51.279 I have. 356 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.559 Just I feel blessed that I had a career in 357 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.480 education of over thirty years before I got in politics, 358 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.319 because none of that matters to me our position. Like 359 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.359 I said, these elective officials should be mad. They should 360 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.119 be standing up behind Sarah, not letting another stand there 361 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.319 by herself. So you're a great American, Willie, You're you're 362 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.319 part of the solution. Patrick was part of the solution, 363 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.319 and he was eliminated. And they've enabled. What they've done 364 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:19.480 is enabled the problem. 365 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.319 And I hope it's different. 366 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.200 I have profound doubts because you keep electing the same 367 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.079 fools to office. Anticipating a different result, and it hasn't happened. 368 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.759 I doubt they want to hunk her down until this 369 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.640 storm passes and move on to the next, move on 370 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.599 to the next roller Derby. Midnight basketball. We've gotta have 371 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.000 finger painting, got open up, Madison Bowl, gotta have more 372 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:43.000 than midnight bowling. 373 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:43.960 No, we don't. 374 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.680 You need ethics, values and morals well represented my clients. 375 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:50.559 I'd never met Patrick or Sarah. I wanted to meet 376 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.880 Sarah at some point. But let me offer the Tri 377 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.799 States condolences on the passing of your second cousin, Michael, 378 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.839 Patrick Haringer and may he rest in peace. 379 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.359 Thank you, Willie, Thank you Mike. 380 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:08.599 Well let's continue. Well, something change, damn. I hope so, 381 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.519 but I wouldn't bet on it. Bill Cunningham, News Radio 382 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.000 seven hundred WLW. 383 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.519 All right, Bully Cunningham, the Great American. This segment is 384 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.119 brought to you by Frank Zybell, ACR, GUNNYE, Pools and Spas. 385 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.599 Now is the perfect time to call. Get a hold 386 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.960 of ACR, Gunny Pools and Spas. Everyone I refer to them. 387 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:31.519 Frank Cyabella does incredible work. Let's get into the issues. 388 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.519 After one o'clock today, I have a call in to 389 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:38.720 Richard K. Jones, the quiet passive Sheriff of Butler County, 390 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:42.400 to talk about the case of Emerson Colundras, who is 391 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.319 in the Butler County jail. I'm gonn ask him if 392 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.200 he's still there. We'll get into his history a little bit. 393 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:49.119 But I wanted to point out that it appears sometime 394 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:52.880 today or tomorrow that the city fathers and mothers are 395 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.119 going to meet with the widow of Patrick Haringer in 396 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.920 order to respond to her posting on Facebook, which I 397 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.680 I thought was one of the most heartfelt things I've 398 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:07.079 ever seen or heard. It was just heartbreaking to consider. 399 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:10.079 The meltdown of law enforcement in the city of Cincinnati 400 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.440 is something I did not think of what happened during 401 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.640