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Speaker 3: Now here's Jacob.
Speaker 1: Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Welcome in to Off the Bench. Guys.
Speaker 3: That's how it feels right now, bad news cycle yesterday.
If you're listening to this show, you already know. If
you don't know, I'm shocked.
Speaker 2: You're listening to this show. Uh.
Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood, the number one player in the entire country,
flips from LSU.
Speaker 2: To Michigan.
Speaker 3: The worst fears here's coming true from any ELA's two fans.
There's a ton to get into here. How did it happened?
Speaker 2: What does it mean?
Speaker 3: What do you do next? What happens to the rest
of this class. We'll get into all of it on
today's show. But yeah, yeah, yeah. When it rains, it pours.
There's a reason why that's saying exists, right, and we
are Greece and it is poor Jake.
Speaker 2: What's up, brother? How are you doing today?
Speaker 4: I have to go back and rethink the the we
are Grease thing because I remember listening to it and
I think I get what you were saying there.
Speaker 3: So Greece at its peak, when it's when things are
going well, can produce world inspiring art, world changing art. Right,
the highs are incredibly high, but in between there's time
of complete and utter economic collapse or mismanagement or civil
war infighting, getting taken over by your neighbors.
Speaker 2: Right, So so it's it's it's it's that.
Speaker 3: It is never going to be a consistent uh just
Roman Empire level of dominance here. Okay, you're, you're, you're.
There's there's vagaries too, There's ups and there's downs. And again,
like I said, I mean, you can't appreciate the light
without the darkness. Unfortunately, it appears that we sold our
Grecian souls for the light of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: But it was but it was worth, still worth, still worth.
Speaker 3: But I'll be damned if, if, if we aren't still
trying to climb out of the current pit tier, the
current downswing. I blame I told Matt this last night
on Scon and Team, so I'm not just saying this
not to his face. I blame Jeff Landry and his
stupid TMU Tiger, and I blame matt Sconna and Bama's burning.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, that's got to take some
blame in that blame. I blame both of them.
Speaker 3: Uh, the the the, the gods are coming after us here.
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean again, there's a lot of stuff to get
into how we feel now today, Jake.
Speaker 2: I am glad it's Friday. Hell yeah, dude, me too.
I am very glad it's Friday.
Speaker 4: You know, needed a weekend here coming up, even though
I gotta work on Saturday. Still, you know, I don't
really consider that work and so needed the weekend.
Speaker 3: I just need a win. I'm out of jokes for
Whiskey one. I don't I don't know what to do.
I was already out of jokes last week. If we
lose again, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Uh, Taylor, write me some jokes, Okay, write me some
jokes in case we lose.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can go to some AI you know
app and just say, hey, I need some jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just become deeply, deeply unfunny by letting these stupid roebits
that just steal all of our human knowledge and imitated
it poorly.
Speaker 2: Uh write my jokes.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, you know what, at this point, I'm down.
I got nothing left. Uh, tay tay, what's up, dude,
not a whole lot.
Speaker 5: We got some news to talk about on the show today,
So that's good. Guys. It's Vest season two. As you
can see, the colony broken out for the first time
miss year. So we're excited about that.
Speaker 4: Even the core only the core, and the core only warm,
so you don't get too hot.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, dude.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I gotta be honest. I got uh
a Southern marsh best uh as a gift, and I
wore for tennis the other night and it was fantastic,
Absolutely fantastic. I felt like an adult. I felt like
I had finally achieved adulthood. Now that I have a
vest in my in my closet.
Speaker 5: Dude, you can add that. You can you can like
start a collection. I have seven, I have something entirely
too many vests. You're out of control.
Speaker 3: I guess you could say you have a vested interest,
but still you need to divest yourself of that many vests.
Speaker 2: Too many complete too me.
Speaker 5: Buying them was quite the investment.
Speaker 3: Hah but no, I mean, I'll say, dude it again.
It feels like when I wear my golf clothes like
I'm dressed up like a wizard. It didn't feel natural,
but it did feel good keeping that core Worm especially
played tennis arms free.
Speaker 2: You kidd me, it's that bad. It's not bad, dude. Uh.
Speaker 3: And here we have the glorious return of our girl Magalandra.
Speaker 2: Landra. What's up? How is the CMA seeing Milandra?
Speaker 6: They were good, the best. I really just went to
the show because I knew they were going to do
a George Straight tribute and I left after the tribute
sounds amazing, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 6: My eyes are very swollen and heavy today and I'm
going to sleep all weekend. But yes, yeah, yeah, but
yeah good.
Speaker 2: Everything soon as a lot of cool pictures with famous
country singers.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 2: I sent to Okay.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I just did it because Jordan Dave Well.
I told Jordan Davis like, oh, I worked with Jake,
and he was like, I love Jake, and so I
was like, we got to take a pick and.
Speaker 2: Send it to him.
Speaker 6: Also, two dozen Roses is our jam so and so
last year Shanondoah was there, but I had to like
run back to the hotel because I love something there
and I wanted to meet him so bad and I
was so upset last year. And then I told him
this year that that happened, and he was like, well,
you're not going to miss me this year. Come on
and I'll tell you I love you. She was so sweet. Yeah,
it's good.
Speaker 2: So and then you also met Diego Pavia.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I met Diego. When was it Wednesday night?
Speaker 2: Oh? Is Diego distracted? Wednesday night?
Speaker 6: He was up the same after we were at I
was like, look, I'm gonna need you to like chill
out on Saturday.
Speaker 2: He was like, no.
Speaker 6: Da and I was like, come on man. He was
like yeah. He was like, are you going to be
at the game on Saturday? And I was like yeah,
but I'm hashtag forever l s U, so don't even
try me.
Speaker 2: Don't even try me.
Speaker 6: I was like, I know we're both Mexican, but no, no.
Speaker 2: Get the hell out of here. Very short short king, Yeah,
short king.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I did have.
Speaker 6: Have heels on, so I don't know how short, but
he's pretty short. I was taller than him in my heels.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, go Diego.
Speaker 6: Also, I don't remember their names, but like one of
the titands and alignment was there too.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he likes the tight ends really good.
Speaker 5: Let's hope. Let's say, let's hope it was Eli Stout
came together from New Mexican.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 6: I think I think he said their name was his
name was Elijah, Uh yeah him?
Speaker 3: Well good, hopefully they they partied way too much. There
was super distracted. Yeah, and now they don't play well.
Speaker 6: Yeah on Saturday, I tried.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and get the thing started.
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Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So obviously the main news of today is Bryce Underwood,
the number one player in the country, has officially flipped
to Michigan ahead.
Speaker 2: Of signing day.
Speaker 3: This is its been a thought that this was potentially
going to happen for a long time now. Underwood, at
least publicly on social media, had maintained his commitment to LSU.
The bidding war continued to get driven up and up
and up. The report broke last week the Michigan was
up to ten and a half million dollars, LSU apparently
got up to six and even Underwood, you know again,
instagrammed out a picture of him and LSU.
Speaker 2: Oh you know.
Speaker 3: Now it is funny because the picture that he put
out on Instagram said Underwood likely to decline Michigan's offer.
At the time, I was going Likely's interesting, Well that
likely was doing some heavy lifting because apparently, you know,
it didn't say is going to It's a likely and
well what's likely doesn't always happen. So Michigan eventually gets
up to twelve million dollars. And at a certain point,
we all know what talks, and we all know what walked.
It's been around forever in human history, and you know
it's hard to you can't blame the kid, And I
want to be very clear by this front, I have
no problem President with whatsoever who cares that You should
never care about what a kid chooses to do for
his school and his college or his money. Like absolutely,
Now I want to have a conversations about what he
means for relshu and all that. But I you know,
I don't think it's hard to understand what most of
us would do if we were offered twelve million dollars
versus six million dollars.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's the.
Speaker 3: Godfather offer the offer he couldn't refuse, so that news
breaks that he flips. Then this is not necessarily that
much of a surprise according to people, But it seems
as the Derek Meadows become official yet.
Speaker 5: Not like officially official, but.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean Steve will Fong of on three
Saint Derek Meadows going to fit who originally flipped from
Michigan to LSU, probably going to flip back to Michigan
and then, in what was a flourish of a troll job,
Jaquem Stewart tweeting last night about hour after the news
broke grateful to be re offered by Michigan as Michigan's
moving in here late on on everyone.
Speaker 2: So there's a ton to get down to.
Speaker 3: Let's start here, Jake, what was your initial reaction when
you saw the Underwood report.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting close to the finish line and you
feel like, maybe, just maybe you can get there. The
ten and a half million wasn't the thing to put
them over the top. And you know, we've talked about
how competitive you were, and you know, you were putting
out a pretty good offer there if you're LSU, and
it seemed like he you know, wanted to be at LSU,
and maybe it was going to win out. Now, you
never fully gave yourself over to it, because no, you
never should. It's recruiting one and then two. You just
you knew Michigan was going to have one final offer. Now,
did we think that it get up to twelve million dollars?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Probably not. But it is high school recruiting. And if
you've been in this game long enough, you know they
are not here until they're here. Yeah, you believe that
they're here when they have on purple and gold and
they're practicing with your team and look, I mean even
last week, like people around Elis she was like, Oh, yeah,
he's gonna be here, He's going to practice with us
for the ball preparation. He'll be able to go out
there and do that. And so they.
Speaker 3: Thought, I mean yeah, apparently they were. Apparently LSU staff
learned about this on Twitter. Yeah, like everybody else did.
They were going back and forth with his team, I mean,
getting down to the granuar level of like, you know
a number of posts he needs to do and whatnot
to fill his contracts, and then this news came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: So yeah, to your point, Jake, they were. They were
side sweat.
Speaker 4: So and the thing on a recruit like this is
sure you lose that talent, but also what you've put
into this player you weren't putting into other players since
January of last year. And even though he's been committed
because of who he is, what position he plays, you've
still recruited him like he was uncommitted. I mean, you
put those two time, those resources into this player, and
it's like when you do that, other players obviously aren't
going to be recruited by you like they normally would
be because of the time and effort you put into
this player, the resources you put into this player, and
then when you get left like this, like I always say,
lonely on the dance floor, it's like, Okay, you've got.
Speaker 2: Less than two weeks. What now?
Speaker 4: Because you don't really have t a backup plan at
that position. And it's a position that I think we
both agree, no matter what, you got to get at
least one every single year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I think too, Like maybe
the economics professors can help me out here, but I
believe what you're describing in terms of you know that
all the time you spent there, now you're not another
I think that's the additional opportunity cost that happens when
you lose a major recruit like this. I mean, at
this point, Jake, look, I mean you you now, you look,
the plan was always for us to come back next year.
Speaker 2: Now you really have to try to make that happen.
Uh I.
Speaker 3: There is a name out there that's interesting. Taylor put
it here in the document, Carter Smith. It's a top
one hundred player quarterback. He was committed to Michigan d
committed a few weeks ago. So you know, a little
little home and home will trade here. Maybe bad value
for us, but still maybe you maybe you pursue that.
Uh he's from Florida. I'm thought to be going to Wisconsin.
So like to Taylor's point, I think you can you
can maybe do some speed recruiting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil long ago got fired.
Speaker 4: They don't have an identity offensively Wisconsin struggling.
Speaker 3: I just also, uh, I mean, but but again, I
think I think it's just kind of a I think
you could almost just go a body, right like the
plan for now you add to the room because you
need a player in that position out of a room.
So if you if you have a guy that you
feel like maybe has potential, Like, I don't think that
you have to be married to getting some huge name
in this class. I think I think you bring I
think you try everything you can to bring us back,
and then the next year, uh, you really explore the
transfer market. You got Elijah Haven on the horizon, all
that all those resources now start to get transferred into
trying to keep the hometown kid.
Speaker 2: Home instead of proaching somebody else's hometown kid.
Speaker 3: It's I I will say this to your point about
high school recruit I mean, we just talked about it.
Like I think a couple of days ago where I
was like, look, you know, with recruiting, you want to
always expect the worst and really shield yourself in pessimism.
But I'd be lying if I finally didn't start to
accept that he was actually gonna come here after the
ten and a half million saga. And so yesterday's news
definitely pierced even my most callous of pessimistic defenses.
Speaker 2: And it sucked.
Speaker 3: And now and now and now you just have to
do everything that you can to keep the rest of
the class together. You gotta get uh, you gotta get JACKEM.
Speaker 2: Stewart.
Speaker 3: You know, all that money that was going underwhere you
can now put into into Stewart. You've got six phillips
just spread around, yeah, into you know, if the donors
are still with your market for these other guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know how look, if you're a donor at
that level, you've also you know, got a strong ego,
which is not a bad thing at all. Like I've
always said this, like NFL players, we all have egos. Yeah,
that ego will probably take over like okay, well we're
going to go put the best team possible we can together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it goes away because it was for
this player, and this player's like now it's like, okay,
we'll bet. Like now we got to go make sure
that we put together a good roster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, look, you get you get, you
get Phillips and Picket. Those are two five star corners.
You got aid and in the number one corner in
the state committed to you now Jaqem Stewart just you know,
the the giant five star d line that was number
one player in the country for next year the reclass.
But if you get those guys and the rest of
it's all good, you can still hold this thing together.
But again, I'm gonna be personally shielding myself and pessimism
and expecting all those guys to leave and and then
just be pleasantly surprised if they end up staying.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think I think.
Speaker 3: Also, let's there's a few things I want to touch
on here. What is like Dave Portnoy's role in all this,
Is there anything that we gained or learned from that? Also,
what does this mean for kind of LSU in the
NIL era, Because it does call up maybe some larger
insecurities that we kind of had entering this era of
college football.
Speaker 2: So let's art to explore these topics.
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk maybe off the bench.
Speaker 2: What's happening y'all? Welcome back to o TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah today, definitely, Uh, sports talk, big big voice, lady.
Speaker 2: But hmm, what where?
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a million different angles, uh that we could
go to. Where should we go next?
Speaker 2: I do okay? I want to talk about the Dave
Portnoy bit in all of this.
Speaker 3: I am going to be fascinated to see how much
money Portnoy gave or was allowed to give, if he
was allowed to give it all.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm a bit confused about here.
Speaker 3: Uh, barstools very tight into the DraftKings, right, Yeah, like
they don't they don't, They don't have a sports book anymore,
but that they that is their main sponsor of all
of their content. I don't know that Portnoy is allowed
to give money here. I don't know, Like I could
see a world where he maybe isn't actually a part
of the twelve million, but he kind of rallied the
Michigan Boosters, uh with the promise of look, we need
you know what whatever. Being convincing we need this came
blah blah blah. But also like, I will use all
of our resources at barstool to make him a star.
And so if you pay him for nil, you'll see,
on top of being really good at the football field
and everything, you'll see increased investment or increased return on
your investment if you advertise with him, because we're gonna
make him extremely big.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be fascinating to see if we ever
do get the details of exactly what went down. But
like I imagine he probably pitched this idea to the family,
potentially to the Boosters.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I brought maybe the family. Yeah yeah,
maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Maybe he did give a ton of money because he
was talking about pledging a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: I put a video in the doc, the one that
he posted last night.
Speaker 2: He does not okay, okay, okay, perfect, okay.
Speaker 6: Then I literally watched it like three times to make sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's uh, let's play a video that he would
not do that.
Speaker 3: How about Chef even got so fired up during uh
during munchies yesterday he slipped up.
Speaker 2: Was it was it the devil eggs that got him
on the devil de eggs?
Speaker 3: I mean it got me, it got me geez, all right.
I saw Memphis in his Pioneer garb after school. Looked
very funny. All right, let's hear is Portnoy celebrating his
underwood flip.
Speaker 7: You be number one, number one in the town, not
in the district, not in the state, QB number one
in the country, recruit number one in the country.
Speaker 2: We don't do four stars at Michigan.
Speaker 7: We do three number one recruits in the country. We
do national champions.
Speaker 2: I told you we did it.
Speaker 7: Now everyone's like, Dave.
Speaker 2: How much were we involved? Listen, there's a lot of
other factors.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna spout from my mouth and say this that.
Speaker 2: The other day. Was I involved in a call with
the family have the lovely people? Did we pitch a plan?
Of course we did.
Speaker 7: Did I know when fat boy.
Speaker 2: From Ohio State Big.
Speaker 7: Ed was making fun of us this morning that he'd
be eating his words by dawn.
Speaker 2: Of course I did, because that's what we do in Michigan.
QB number one, right, the be king that's you know,
short Kings.
Speaker 3: Reality does kind of continue to ben to Dave Portnoy's well,
but I think I think we're gonna learn over time
that there's more to what he's saying there than we
realize initially. Like I think, I don't Again, I don't
know if he was able to give a ton of
money or not, but I think it was ultimately the
plan that he pitched to the Boosters and to the
family that ended up convincing Underwood to go there.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you can say, well, Portnoy can't
give money up front, sure, but if you know, if
there's a certain business that he has certain financial interest
in that his name may not necessarily be on that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying yes, I agree, I agree, right, But
we do also have to remember Michigan has what probably
like the richest alumni base in the country potentially.
Speaker 2: Oh, I actually had no idea they would have to be.
They would have to be near like top five.
Speaker 3: Michigan academic prestige, the business school, it's all you know,
a hyph falutin rich and alumni. You win the Natty,
you go through this down year if you can rally
the troops. Well, you can see what what happens.
Speaker 5: So saying like that's what we do at Michigan just
kind of made me chockle Well, I give lifetime.
Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't engage if you engage.
Speaker 3: In Amber's it's a bad faith argument. You can't engage
with them because obviously Michigan doesn't do five stars. The
entire point of the Hardball era which that they took
three and four stars and made them really good. Right,
he's just flexing, he celebrated as any. So what does
this mean for LSU going forward? Because I'd be lying
if it say didn't call in a lot of my
original insecurities about the nil era, where I thought that,
you know, are we at an extreme disadvantage because of
the state economy, and now we have a roster that
we put significantly less money in than most of our peers,
which is a bit by choice, right, And they've learned
their lesson there and that's going to change. But still
if it like when you swim in these five star waters, Jake,
that is when I do get concerned about your ability
to win these bidding wards because like and even then,
do you even want to engage in the bidding wars
because let's say you have a set number to pull
from and for you to up the offer, you have
to take from somewhere else. What if the other school
can just go back to the guy that's that has
their belief there's like.
Speaker 2: We just need more.
Speaker 3: So they're not taking from their pool, They're just adding
to it as the offer goes up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've talked about this for a long time and
not being able to keep up. Maybe in this space
you can be competitive, but can you at the end
of the day do what you're talking about. Hey, we're
tapped out, but we need you, Like, do you have
a we need you, you know, person waiting in the wings?
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm not sure that you do right now.
Speaker 4: Look for me, Like, high school recruiting is very very important,
There's there's no question about it. But you also, like
this roster next year, regardless of if Bryce Underwood signed
with you or not, you have.
Speaker 2: To do better in the portal. Yeah, you have to
first portal window here, especially you you did really well
the first year.
Speaker 4: The first year, I mean you went out and you
got some players that helped you get to an SEC
Championship game. It has not been that year, two, year three.
I'm trying to to currently think of an impactful player
that came out of the portal this year. Now you've
had some like Swinson developed, and so you know, from
when he first got here to right now, you know,
Kyan Lacy technically is a player out of the portal,
but he's been here for a long time now. Aaron
Anderson has gotten better, but he was two years ago.
Speaker 5: I can only I can only think of one.
Speaker 2: CJ. Daniels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but that's it.
Speaker 4: And even even CJ as much as like if you're
watching tape, you understand how good he's been because in
the run game he's a mauler.
Speaker 2: He comes up with big catches. He doesn't have a
ton of parts.
Speaker 3: But if you had, but if you had that equivalent
level player at other positions, you'd be way more solid
across the board, all right, Yeah, Like like I mean,
you still do want to go get a superstar or
whatever if you can, but like, yeah, if you had
like a CJ. Daniels level player at safety, you'd be yeah, there,
Jin Jinks, you owed me a safety.
Speaker 2: Uh, you'd be you'd be I put five on it. Yeah. Yeah,
well I'm not that that.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking like. I'm not talking y'all. I
hope y'all know this about me. I'm not talking about
you go get the former five star because he has
five stars. You've tried that as well, Denver Harris, that
has not worked out for you. I'm talking about going
to get it, like impactful players out of the portal,
like you're talking about Diego Pavia earlier and that's who
you're playing this weekend. I'm talking about like going to
find a player that fits what you're trying to get
done and use those resources that you were going to
use on some of these high school players.
Speaker 2: Maybe you miss out, but you have to do better
in the portal. Yeah, and they will. They will.
Speaker 3: They're significantly upping their investment. They kind of thought they
could go bargain bin shopping a bit, and I mean.
Speaker 2: Well it's been dollar general results.
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's I mean. Unfortunately, if you look,
I mean, well, I don't think this is unfortunate because
I'm down for players to make as much money as
possible and I just love college football no matter what.
But unfortunatelybe for LSU or for schools that if you're
stressing about money, go look at the rankings. You know,
the results are the results, And it turns out the
teams that spend the most have a much better chance
of winning the most.
Speaker 2: Right, whether it's.
Speaker 3: Oregon and they're fifteen to twenty Ohio State and they're
fifteen to twenty Texas and they're fifteen to twenty Georgia
and they're fifteen old miss right, Like like all these
schools Tennessee, all the schools that put in the most
money or all of the all.
Speaker 2: At the top right now except for Signetti. Come on, Kurt,
we need you.
Speaker 4: But even he had a path his JMU players he
got thirteen of them. Yeah, and even even him not
being up there, he actually had something that was different.
He had thirteen veteran players that knew what it was
like to win well. And all jokes aside there. The
main thing Signetti's doing right now is rallying investors.
Speaker 3: He is putting together a war chest. He even said it.
He was like, they were like, why do you go
to Indiana? And he was like, I saw the big
ten contract money? Duh, Like what do you mean I saw?
I saw we were gonna be able to pay players.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to think of like, and you're right,
and I love how open signette is. I'm trying to
think of teams that have overachieved this year, like we
didn't have expectations for them, and where they're at and
what they've done in the portal, Like Arizona State's not
a team that's going to, you know, get a lot
of headlines here.
Speaker 2: They had as much portal movement as anything.
Speaker 3: About this I read. I read it yesterday. I didn't
realize this so over the past. Out of the twenty
seven potential starters for Saturday's game, twenty three joined Arizona
State in the last twenty two months. Yeah, so the
last two years, so they completely remade the team. Toped
about it.
Speaker 4: I I interviewed Kenny dealing him nice two weeks ago,
I think or week you I don't remember what it was.
And I was asking him about that, and you know, hey, coach,
you know kind of speed dating a little bit. How
are you finding all these players because that's who you're accounting. No,
He's like, it is speed dating. But also I can
turn on the tape and I can tell can this
player play for me. Yeah, He's like, if I'm watching
a running back and on endsign zone he cringes on contact,
can't play for me. If I'm watching the tape and
a linebacker half steps on an ISO, can't play for me,
He's like, and that's how he was.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm looking.
Speaker 4: For a certain like mold of player right now because
we have a certain identity and I can tell him
three plays is that player going to be? Because he's like, look,
if the player's playing in the power for he's starting
out there, he's talented. He's talented enough to play to
Arizona State. He's like, these are the things I'm looking for.
If I see him, let's go get him. If I don't,
we'll move on.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we'll continued to talk what is mean
for Joe Sloan uh and and your comments as well. Again,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.
Speaker 3: Off the Bench, bro we never stood a chance. So
there's a tweet. If this is real, it looks pretty real,
But it looks like a graphic that would send out too.
I'm guessing like the Michigan Collective members are just kind
of a Michigan newsletter type family. But it's from the
Michigan Collective and in it they're thinking Larry tell Us
in for his help in recruiting Bryce Underwood. I had
no idea Larry Elson was a Michigan man Oracle CEO
worth two hundred and thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 2: What we hit? A chance? He's it a chance? What
you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 3: This is even different than the one that we're looking at.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, it basically says the same thing. Larry Ellison's
name in there. We want to thank Jolin and Larry
Elkinson who were instrumental in making this happen by providing
Champion Circle with invaluable guidance and financial reasons.
Speaker 3: Hey Larry, I'm not thinking you, Okay, I'm mad at you,
Larry freaking sure?
Speaker 2: What does this do for Joe Sloane? Now?
Speaker 3: Because Sloan's been going through it, Kelly busted out the
play card, there's Tommy Reese rumors abounding, and Sloan's kind
of lifeline and all of this the Bryce Underwood commitment,
and now that's gone.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what that relationship is.
Speaker 4: Obviously it was very strong a year ago whenever you
made you know, Joe Sloan the play caller and you
moved on from from Mike Denbrock. Yeah, the offense you chose,
you chose to bump up. Now, the offense early in
the season was moving right along. When you went into
halftime in College Station, Gary Nessmyer was the best quarterback
in the SEC.
Speaker 2: That wasn't just us saying that. I was.
Speaker 4: I was getting texts during that game during halftime. Uh,
everyone that works at Techsaggs, including our boy Billy Luci,
They're like, yep, y'all got the best quarterback in the SEC.
Since then, obviously we know what's happened last ten quarters.
I think what three touchdowns? It hasn't all been bad,
but the red zone issues have been there all season long.
So they're like, there's things that we could point to
within the offense that haven't been there all season. But
I do I do prepas that with saying like there
was a time not that long ago when people thought
you had the best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, look, I I I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I think I think sone has been uh average
to slightly above average, maybe even good. But I do
think that I'm a bit more uh forgiving. I think
I think I'm maybe not judging with as a strict
of a line as many are, and maybe even judge,
you know, a bit more forgiving than Brian Kelly himself.
I mean, him busting out the play sheet is it's
a tough look. It's a tough look for your boy
because we've never seen him before. You know, all of
a sudden there's talking about you know, I'm the head coach.
I want to be involved. Things aren't going well, like
I want to do this, So I I don't. I
don't know what happens to coach sone. This is my
least favorite part of the job. But that is that
is crazy too, to think that it could be a
you know, a d commitment. You could be the straw
that broke. I mean, that's a brutal part about college coach.
You know, theyre highly paid. That's awesome, right, but you know,
by going outhouse to the pen or penthouse to the
outhouse like that, Like you said, a couple of weeks
ago offense rolling. So it's awesome. He's gonna be the
ECU head coach. Everything's all good. But I said, like whatever,
and who knows where you stand now from like a
do I have a job standpoint? Which is wild because
an eighteen year old, Because because the founder of one
of the largest tech companies in the entire world paid
an eighteen year old twelve million dollars to go play
football at Michigan and now you're out of the job.
Speaker 2: What what? What is this world? I do love Shapa's comment.
Speaker 3: He says billionaires are ruined in this country the same
way they did in the late nineteenth century with Morgan, Rockefeller,
et cetera.
Speaker 2: I agree for I agree, uh, you know, I love
that this is what you know.
Speaker 3: But this, I this is this like a lot of
the other stuff, but this is, yes, this is the
straw that where people are finally gonna wake up to
what billionaires are doing to this this beautiful country of ours.
Speaker 4: I mean, college athletics is it's comical at times because
and me, Taylor and the lines we're talking about this
right before we came on today, because you know, they
do the Brian Kelly Show and I was like, did
they like talk about that, like, and I know, you
got to be vague. I was like, did they talk
about it at all? They're like no, no, you know,
because you can't mention recruits Like yeah, I know, you
can't mention them by name. And I started thinking about this.
I was like, we can give a recruit twelve million dollars,
but we can't say his name when a coach a show.
Speaker 2: True, so stupid, so stupid.
Speaker 5: He already decommitted. What are they really gonna do if
Brian Kelly goes up there and be like, y'all want
to know what happened to Price Underwood? Here's my tail all, Like,
what are they actually gonna.
Speaker 2: Do in the end today? I will even try to
do something like.
Speaker 5: What's the matter?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I do remind me on the other side
of this break, I do want to talk about one
last angle here, which is what does the settlement mean
for NIL going forward?
Speaker 2: Real quick? So he said, but like dim Brock didn't
even get fired. He just said no. He just left
said Noah, do it? I'm out?
Speaker 3: I mean yes, But also like I I'm pretty you know,
I think they went to din broadcast and to be
coc and he's kind of like, wait a second, like
hold up, Like I just put together number one off
as the country and now you want to make a
co See it's kind of the same thing you did
to be a notre name.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm out.
Speaker 3: So it was it wasn't I mean, he was not fired, certainly,
but he wasn't shown the love, uh that that you
would expect after a year like the one that he had.
Speaker 2: All Right, let's close out. I don't want to be.
Speaker 3: Off the bench.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.
Speaker 2: Off the bench, we did mean, welcome back to OTB.
It's it'll be weird to be Todd Graves.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine having thousands upon thousands of strangers yelling
at you on how to spend your money?
Speaker 2: That's crazy when you spend a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're already you're already like, wait a second,
I'm spending more, I'm spending the most.
Speaker 2: What's here? And they're like, why can't you keep up
with Phil Knight, Larry Els? What what are we talking about? Guys?
I don't know. Man, You spend your money however you want, dude,
spend your money.
Speaker 3: Ever you want the uh so, okay, So let's talk
about this because my greatest insecurity entering the nil era
was the Louisiana state economy, which continues to be a joke,
continues to get and worse. We continue to have people
leave the state at a higher rate than nearly anybody
else in the entire country.
Speaker 2: Lack of opportunity, all that brain drain.
Speaker 3: Right, So in some ways, this you know, losing bidding wars,
finding out that you put five million dollars into this
roster or other schools are putting fifteen to twenty. It
certainly feels if all my fears are coming true. However,
on July first, the NCAA anti trust lawsuit kicks in.
Collectives are gone and every school will be involved in
revenue sharing. Right, let's just deal with round numbers called
twenty million dollars. So every school have twenty million dollars
from which to pay players. So in theory, in theory,
that should be almost like a salary cap, potentially more
even playing field, and should you know, potentially dispel any
of these economic insecurities that I have. But my question
that I still have is what happens when Larry Alison
Todd Gravesvill Knight. Whoever still wants a player, you can't
stop them from advertising with that person, right, And what
stops an agent from representing players and going to local
businesses and being like, hey, you know, here's here's you
know you want to come here you can pay for
So I know the NCAA is going to make going
to try to make collectives illegal. I have questions about
whether they can actually do that. And beyond that, I mean,
look water money like water finds a way, and there
will be a cottage industry. I think at least that
will pop up. So maybe it won't be as extreme
in terms of the haves and the have nots and
whatnot and the disparities in spending with that kind of
twenty million that everybody's going to be coming up with
off the bat. But I don't think it's going to
be completely eaving. And I do still believe that for
the biggest of recruits there's going to be bidding wars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what he's talking about if if you know whatever,
if the Tennessee Booster owns this massive business, then you
know Nico can go beyond that commercial If you know,
whoever go to go to whatever school, whatever their biggest
own or whatever business he has. If they have advertising,
which all of them do, they can put that player
on the advertising and that is a way around it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, A thousand saying yeah, Like you're not going
to collective and giving them money and telling you and
then letting them spend how they want. But like, you know,
I want to stuff to school from telling the local
businessner who really want this guy? And uh wordam the
street is just gonna offer from so and so do advertise.
Speaker 2: Maybe you want if you.
Speaker 4: Were gonna give us four million back in the day
last year for the collective, maybe four million to put
him in a commercial.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, that's in both worlds. You'll do a little
deal with them. Huh yeah, So christll Andrew, you need
the irony. The irony is we need the inblate to
fix and Aile I don't. I don't think I need
the antiblay to fix anything. I know LSU is on
the downcing right now. But like college football is awesome.
It's as competitive and wide open as it's ever been.
There's more parody, it's a ton of good teams. I
think it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I hate that potentially the school that I root for
may be on kind of the losing end of.
Speaker 2: Some of these.
Speaker 3: Market circumstances, But I think it's awesome. I don't want
anything fixed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have more parody than you've ever had, well,
at least in recent memory, as long as I can
remember watching college football.
Speaker 2: I mean since O seven and now it does remain
to be seen. Is this year the exception or the rule? Right?
I think it's the rule though, because of how you
can fill gaps. We'll see. Even last year I was
pretty such yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, last year there was some teams that popped off,
and I mean, look at the last two years. We've
had TCU in Washington and Natties. Yeah, now that didn't
go their way. They got housed in both of them,
but still they made it to that point.
Speaker 3: That's something that I hate though, in this Indiana argument,
been having people people look at you, You look at you,
and I'm like, okay, let okay. They beat Michigan in
the semi final. Yeah, Like were they not supposed to?
They weren't a playoff team, and yet they beat the
Big Ten champions who were undefeated like in the Simmis. Like, no,
they were a playoff team. They just weren't nearly as
good as Georgia.
Speaker 4: It was an awful mattress, freakishly good, and circumstances went
sideways early in that game.
Speaker 2: I mean it was raining inside of an indoor stadium.
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darry World or no? Oh, okay, never mind because they
didn't have the uh.
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then when it did and they were like, oh.
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