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Speaker 1: All start to you to presents. Off the Bench with

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Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Bob aber.

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Speaker 2: I got to come off the bitch.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Jacob.

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Speaker 1: Hester and T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to Off the Bench. Guys.

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Speaker 3: That's how it feels right now, bad news cycle yesterday.

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If you're listening to this show, you already know. If

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you don't know, I'm shocked.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to this show. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood, the number one player in the entire country,

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flips from LSU.

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Speaker 2: To Michigan.

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Speaker 3: The worst fears here's coming true from any ELA's two fans.

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There's a ton to get into here. How did it happened?

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Speaker 2: What does it mean?

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Speaker 3: What do you do next? What happens to the rest

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of this class. We'll get into all of it on

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today's show. But yeah, yeah, yeah. When it rains, it pours.

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There's a reason why that's saying exists, right, and we

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are Greece and it is poor Jake.

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Speaker 2: What's up, brother? How are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: I have to go back and rethink the the we

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are Grease thing because I remember listening to it and

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I think I get what you were saying there.

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Speaker 3: So Greece at its peak, when it's when things are

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going well, can produce world inspiring art, world changing art. Right,

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the highs are incredibly high, but in between there's time

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of complete and utter economic collapse or mismanagement or civil

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war infighting, getting taken over by your neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Right, So so it's it's it's it's that.

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Speaker 3: It is never going to be a consistent uh just

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Roman Empire level of dominance here. Okay, you're, you're, you're.

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There's there's vagaries too, There's ups and there's downs. And again,

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like I said, I mean, you can't appreciate the light

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without the darkness. Unfortunately, it appears that we sold our

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Grecian souls for the light of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: But it was but it was worth, still worth, still worth.

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Speaker 3: But I'll be damned if, if, if we aren't still

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trying to climb out of the current pit tier, the

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current downswing. I blame I told Matt this last night

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on Scon and Team, so I'm not just saying this

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not to his face. I blame Jeff Landry and his

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stupid TMU Tiger, and I blame matt Sconna and Bama's burning.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, that's got to take some

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blame in that blame. I blame both of them.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the the the, the gods are coming after us here.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, there's a lot of stuff to get

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into how we feel now today, Jake.

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Speaker 2: I am glad it's Friday. Hell yeah, dude, me too.

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I am very glad it's Friday.

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Speaker 4: You know, needed a weekend here coming up, even though

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I gotta work on Saturday. Still, you know, I don't

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really consider that work and so needed the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I just need a win. I'm out of jokes for

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Whiskey one. I don't I don't know what to do.

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I was already out of jokes last week. If we

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lose again, I mean, I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Taylor, write me some jokes, Okay, write me some

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jokes in case we lose.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you can go to some AI you know

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app and just say, hey, I need some jokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just become deeply, deeply unfunny by letting these stupid roebits

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that just steal all of our human knowledge and imitated

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it poorly.

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Speaker 2: Uh write my jokes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, you know what, at this point, I'm down.

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I got nothing left. Uh, tay tay, what's up, dude,

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not a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: We got some news to talk about on the show today,

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So that's good. Guys. It's Vest season two. As you

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can see, the colony broken out for the first time

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miss year. So we're excited about that.

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Speaker 4: Even the core only the core, and the core only warm,

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so you don't get too hot.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, dude.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I gotta be honest. I got uh

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a Southern marsh best uh as a gift, and I

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wore for tennis the other night and it was fantastic,

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Absolutely fantastic. I felt like an adult. I felt like

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I had finally achieved adulthood. Now that I have a

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vest in my in my closet.

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Speaker 5: Dude, you can add that. You can you can like

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start a collection. I have seven, I have something entirely

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too many vests. You're out of control.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could say you have a vested interest,

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but still you need to divest yourself of that many vests.

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Speaker 2: Too many complete too me.

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Speaker 5: Buying them was quite the investment.

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Speaker 3: Hah but no, I mean, I'll say, dude it again.

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It feels like when I wear my golf clothes like

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I'm dressed up like a wizard. It didn't feel natural,

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but it did feel good keeping that core Worm especially

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played tennis arms free.

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Speaker 2: You kidd me, it's that bad. It's not bad, dude. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And here we have the glorious return of our girl Magalandra.

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Speaker 2: Landra. What's up? How is the CMA seeing Milandra?

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Speaker 6: They were good, the best. I really just went to

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the show because I knew they were going to do

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a George Straight tribute and I left after the tribute

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sounds amazing, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 6: My eyes are very swollen and heavy today and I'm

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going to sleep all weekend. But yes, yeah, yeah, but

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yeah good.

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Speaker 2: Everything soon as a lot of cool pictures with famous

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country singers.

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Speaker 7: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I sent to Okay.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I just did it because Jordan Dave Well.

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I told Jordan Davis like, oh, I worked with Jake,

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and he was like, I love Jake, and so I

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was like, we got to take a pick and.

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Speaker 2: Send it to him.

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Speaker 6: Also, two dozen Roses is our jam so and so

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last year Shanondoah was there, but I had to like

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run back to the hotel because I love something there

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and I wanted to meet him so bad and I

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was so upset last year. And then I told him

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this year that that happened, and he was like, well,

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you're not going to miss me this year. Come on

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and I'll tell you I love you. She was so sweet. Yeah,

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it's good.

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Speaker 2: So and then you also met Diego Pavia.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I met Diego. When was it Wednesday night?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Is Diego distracted? Wednesday night?

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Speaker 6: He was up the same after we were at I

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was like, look, I'm gonna need you to like chill

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out on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: He was like, no.

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Speaker 6: Da and I was like, come on man. He was

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like yeah. He was like, are you going to be

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at the game on Saturday? And I was like yeah,

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but I'm hashtag forever l s U, so don't even

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try me.

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Speaker 2: Don't even try me.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I know we're both Mexican, but no, no.

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Speaker 2: Get the hell out of here. Very short short king, Yeah,

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short king.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I did have.

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Speaker 6: Have heels on, so I don't know how short, but

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he's pretty short. I was taller than him in my heels.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, go Diego.

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Speaker 6: Also, I don't remember their names, but like one of

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the titands and alignment was there too.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he likes the tight ends really good.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope. Let's say, let's hope it was Eli Stout

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came together from New Mexican.

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Speaker 2: I think it was.

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Speaker 6: I think I think he said their name was his

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name was Elijah, Uh yeah him?

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Speaker 3: Well good, hopefully they they partied way too much. There

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was super distracted. Yeah, and now they don't play well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah on Saturday, I tried.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and get the thing started.

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Speaker 1: It's time to get to work. Courtesy of Tiger Labor

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and Staffing where they can help take care of screening, training,

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payroll and more. Now for starters.

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If you're dealing with no calls or no shows this morning,

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your short staff, give him a call today, let Tiger

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Llams have him meet your workforce needs. Remember we're not

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just fording resumes to you. We're interviewing and dispatching in

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person every single morning at five am.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So obviously the main news of today is Bryce Underwood,

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the number one player in the country, has officially flipped

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to Michigan ahead.

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Speaker 2: Of signing day.

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Speaker 3: This is its been a thought that this was potentially

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going to happen for a long time now. Underwood, at

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least publicly on social media, had maintained his commitment to LSU.

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The bidding war continued to get driven up and up

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and up. The report broke last week the Michigan was

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up to ten and a half million dollars, LSU apparently

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got up to six and even Underwood, you know again,

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Speaker 2: Oh you know.

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Speaker 3: Now it is funny because the picture that he put

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out on Instagram said Underwood likely to decline Michigan's offer.

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At the time, I was going Likely's interesting, Well that

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likely was doing some heavy lifting because apparently, you know,

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it didn't say is going to It's a likely and

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well what's likely doesn't always happen. So Michigan eventually gets

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up to twelve million dollars. And at a certain point,

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we all know what talks, and we all know what walked.

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It's been around forever in human history, and you know

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it's hard to you can't blame the kid, And I

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want to be very clear by this front, I have

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no problem President with whatsoever who cares that You should

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never care about what a kid chooses to do for

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his school and his college or his money. Like absolutely,

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means for relshu and all that. But I you know,

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I don't think it's hard to understand what most of

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us would do if we were offered twelve million dollars

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versus six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's the.

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Speaker 3: Godfather offer the offer he couldn't refuse, so that news

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breaks that he flips. Then this is not necessarily that

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much of a surprise according to people, But it seems

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as the Derek Meadows become official yet.

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Speaker 5: Not like officially official, but.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean Steve will Fong of on three

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Saint Derek Meadows going to fit who originally flipped from

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Michigan to LSU, probably going to flip back to Michigan

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and then, in what was a flourish of a troll job,

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Jaquem Stewart tweeting last night about hour after the news

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broke grateful to be re offered by Michigan as Michigan's

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moving in here late on on everyone.

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Speaker 2: So there's a ton to get down to.

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Speaker 3: Let's start here, Jake, what was your initial reaction when

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you saw the Underwood report.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting close to the finish line and you

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feel like, maybe, just maybe you can get there. The

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ten and a half million wasn't the thing to put

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them over the top. And you know, we've talked about

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how competitive you were, and you know, you were putting

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out a pretty good offer there if you're LSU, and

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it seemed like he you know, wanted to be at LSU,

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and maybe it was going to win out. Now, you

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never fully gave yourself over to it, because no, you

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never should. It's recruiting one and then two. You just

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you knew Michigan was going to have one final offer. Now,

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did we think that it get up to twelve million dollars?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Probably not. But it is high school recruiting. And if

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you've been in this game long enough, you know they

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are not here until they're here. Yeah, you believe that

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they're here when they have on purple and gold and

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they're practicing with your team and look, I mean even

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last week, like people around Elis she was like, Oh, yeah,

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he's gonna be here, He's going to practice with us

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for the ball preparation. He'll be able to go out

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there and do that. And so they.

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Speaker 3: Thought, I mean yeah, apparently they were. Apparently LSU staff

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learned about this on Twitter. Yeah, like everybody else did.

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They were going back and forth with his team, I mean,

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getting down to the granuar level of like, you know

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a number of posts he needs to do and whatnot

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to fill his contracts, and then this news came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, to your point, Jake, they were. They were

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side sweat.

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Speaker 4: So and the thing on a recruit like this is

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sure you lose that talent, but also what you've put

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into this player you weren't putting into other players since

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January of last year. And even though he's been committed

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because of who he is, what position he plays, you've

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still recruited him like he was uncommitted. I mean, you

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put those two time, those resources into this player, and

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it's like when you do that, other players obviously aren't

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going to be recruited by you like they normally would

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be because of the time and effort you put into

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this player, the resources you put into this player, and

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then when you get left like this, like I always say,

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lonely on the dance floor, it's like, Okay, you've got.

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Speaker 2: Less than two weeks. What now?

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Speaker 4: Because you don't really have t a backup plan at

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that position. And it's a position that I think we

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both agree, no matter what, you got to get at

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least one every single year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I think too, Like maybe

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the economics professors can help me out here, but I

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believe what you're describing in terms of you know that

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all the time you spent there, now you're not another

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I think that's the additional opportunity cost that happens when

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you lose a major recruit like this. I mean, at

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this point, Jake, look, I mean you you now, you look,

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the plan was always for us to come back next year.

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Speaker 2: Now you really have to try to make that happen.

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Speaker 3: There is a name out there that's interesting. Taylor put

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it here in the document, Carter Smith. It's a top

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one hundred player quarterback. He was committed to Michigan d

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committed a few weeks ago. So you know, a little

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little home and home will trade here. Maybe bad value

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for us, but still maybe you maybe you pursue that.

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Uh he's from Florida. I'm thought to be going to Wisconsin.

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So like to Taylor's point, I think you can you

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can maybe do some speed recruiting there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil long ago got fired.

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Speaker 4: They don't have an identity offensively Wisconsin struggling.

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Speaker 3: I just also, uh, I mean, but but again, I

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think I think it's just kind of a I think

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you could almost just go a body, right like the

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plan for now you add to the room because you

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need a player in that position out of a room.

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So if you if you have a guy that you

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feel like maybe has potential, Like, I don't think that

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you have to be married to getting some huge name

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in this class. I think I think you bring I

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think you try everything you can to bring us back,

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and then the next year, uh, you really explore the

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transfer market. You got Elijah Haven on the horizon, all

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that all those resources now start to get transferred into

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trying to keep the hometown kid.

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Speaker 2: Home instead of proaching somebody else's hometown kid.

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Speaker 3: It's I I will say this to your point about

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high school recruit I mean, we just talked about it.

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Like I think a couple of days ago where I

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was like, look, you know, with recruiting, you want to

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always expect the worst and really shield yourself in pessimism.

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But I'd be lying if I finally didn't start to

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accept that he was actually gonna come here after the

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ten and a half million saga. And so yesterday's news

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definitely pierced even my most callous of pessimistic defenses.

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Speaker 2: And it sucked.

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Speaker 3: And now and now and now you just have to

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do everything that you can to keep the rest of

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the class together. You gotta get uh, you gotta get JACKEM.

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Speaker 2: Stewart.

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Speaker 3: You know, all that money that was going underwhere you

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can now put into into Stewart. You've got six phillips

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just spread around, yeah, into you know, if the donors

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are still with your market for these other guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know how look, if you're a donor at

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that level, you've also you know, got a strong ego,

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which is not a bad thing at all. Like I've

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always said this, like NFL players, we all have egos. Yeah,

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that ego will probably take over like okay, well we're

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going to go put the best team possible we can together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it goes away because it was for

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this player, and this player's like now it's like, okay,

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we'll bet. Like now we got to go make sure

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that we put together a good roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, look, you get you get, you

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get Phillips and Picket. Those are two five star corners.

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You got aid and in the number one corner in

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the state committed to you now Jaqem Stewart just you know,

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the the giant five star d line that was number

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one player in the country for next year the reclass.

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But if you get those guys and the rest of

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it's all good, you can still hold this thing together.

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But again, I'm gonna be personally shielding myself and pessimism

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and expecting all those guys to leave and and then

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just be pleasantly surprised if they end up staying.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I think I think.

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Speaker 3: Also, let's there's a few things I want to touch

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on here. What is like Dave Portnoy's role in all this,

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Is there anything that we gained or learned from that? Also,

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what does this mean for kind of LSU in the

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NIL era, Because it does call up maybe some larger

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insecurities that we kind of had entering this era of

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college football.

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Speaker 2: So let's art to explore these topics.

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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk maybe off the bench.

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Speaker 2: What's happening y'all? Welcome back to o TV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah today, definitely, Uh, sports talk, big big voice, lady.

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Speaker 2: But hmm, what where?

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's a million different angles, uh that we could

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go to. Where should we go next?

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Speaker 2: I do okay? I want to talk about the Dave

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Portnoy bit in all of this.

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Speaker 3: I am going to be fascinated to see how much

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money Portnoy gave or was allowed to give, if he

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was allowed to give it all.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm a bit confused about here.

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Speaker 3: Uh, barstools very tight into the DraftKings, right, Yeah, like

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they don't they don't, They don't have a sports book anymore,

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but that they that is their main sponsor of all

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of their content. I don't know that Portnoy is allowed

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to give money here. I don't know, Like I could

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see a world where he maybe isn't actually a part

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of the twelve million, but he kind of rallied the

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Michigan Boosters, uh with the promise of look, we need

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you know what whatever. Being convincing we need this came

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blah blah blah. But also like, I will use all

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of our resources at barstool to make him a star.

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And so if you pay him for nil, you'll see,

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on top of being really good at the football field

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and everything, you'll see increased investment or increased return on

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your investment if you advertise with him, because we're gonna

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make him extremely big.

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be fascinating to see if we ever

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do get the details of exactly what went down. But

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like I imagine he probably pitched this idea to the family,

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potentially to the Boosters.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I brought maybe the family. Yeah yeah,

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maybe maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he did give a ton of money because he

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was talking about pledging a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: I put a video in the doc, the one that

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he posted last night.

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Speaker 2: He does not okay, okay, okay, perfect, okay.

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Speaker 6: Then I literally watched it like three times to make sure.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's uh, let's play a video that he would

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not do that.

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Speaker 3: How about Chef even got so fired up during uh

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during munchies yesterday he slipped up.

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Speaker 2: Was it was it the devil eggs that got him

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on the devil de eggs?

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Speaker 3: I mean it got me, it got me geez, all right.

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I saw Memphis in his Pioneer garb after school. Looked

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very funny. All right, let's hear is Portnoy celebrating his

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underwood flip.

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Speaker 7: You be number one, number one in the town, not

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in the district, not in the state, QB number one

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in the country, recruit number one in the country.

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Speaker 2: We don't do four stars at Michigan.

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Speaker 7: We do three number one recruits in the country. We

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do national champions.

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Speaker 2: I told you we did it.

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Speaker 7: Now everyone's like, Dave.

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Speaker 2: How much were we involved? Listen, there's a lot of

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other factors.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna spout from my mouth and say this that.

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Speaker 2: The other day. Was I involved in a call with

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the family have the lovely people? Did we pitch a plan?

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Of course we did.

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Speaker 7: Did I know when fat boy.

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Speaker 2: From Ohio State Big.

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Speaker 7: Ed was making fun of us this morning that he'd

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be eating his words by dawn.

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Speaker 2: Of course I did, because that's what we do in Michigan.

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QB number one, right, the be king that's you know,

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short Kings.

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Speaker 3: Reality does kind of continue to ben to Dave Portnoy's well,

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but I think I think we're gonna learn over time

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that there's more to what he's saying there than we

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realize initially. Like I think, I don't Again, I don't

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know if he was able to give a ton of

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money or not, but I think it was ultimately the

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plan that he pitched to the Boosters and to the

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family that ended up convincing Underwood to go there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you can say, well, Portnoy can't

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give money up front, sure, but if you know, if

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there's a certain business that he has certain financial interest

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in that his name may not necessarily be on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying yes, I agree, I agree, right, But

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we do also have to remember Michigan has what probably

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like the richest alumni base in the country potentially.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I actually had no idea they would have to be.

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They would have to be near like top five.

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Speaker 3: Michigan academic prestige, the business school, it's all you know,

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a hyph falutin rich and alumni. You win the Natty,

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you go through this down year if you can rally

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the troops. Well, you can see what what happens.

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Speaker 5: So saying like that's what we do at Michigan just

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kind of made me chockle Well, I give lifetime.

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Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't engage if you engage.

474
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: In Amber's it's a bad faith argument. You can't engage

475
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680
with them because obviously Michigan doesn't do five stars. The

476
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:31,680
entire point of the Hardball era which that they took

477
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:34,000
three and four stars and made them really good. Right,

478
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:41,440
he's just flexing, he celebrated as any. So what does

479
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,640
this mean for LSU going forward? Because I'd be lying

480
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,319
if it say didn't call in a lot of my

481
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,200
original insecurities about the nil era, where I thought that,

482
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,680
you know, are we at an extreme disadvantage because of

483
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240
the state economy, and now we have a roster that

484
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,000
we put significantly less money in than most of our peers,

485
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,640
which is a bit by choice, right, And they've learned

486
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,079
their lesson there and that's going to change. But still

487
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,960
if it like when you swim in these five star waters, Jake,

488
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:13,440
that is when I do get concerned about your ability

489
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,160
to win these bidding wards because like and even then,

490
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,200
do you even want to engage in the bidding wars

491
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,519
because let's say you have a set number to pull

492
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,880
from and for you to up the offer, you have

493
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,400
to take from somewhere else. What if the other school

494
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,799
can just go back to the guy that's that has

495
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:30,680
their belief there's like.

496
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: We just need more.

497
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: So they're not taking from their pool, They're just adding

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,519
to it as the offer goes up.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've talked about this for a long time and

500
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960
not being able to keep up. Maybe in this space

501
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,559
you can be competitive, but can you at the end

502
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,839
of the day do what you're talking about. Hey, we're

503
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,160
tapped out, but we need you, Like, do you have

504
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,720
a we need you, you know, person waiting in the wings?

505
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,319
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm not sure that you do right now.

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,319
Speaker 4: Look for me, Like, high school recruiting is very very important,

507
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,799
There's there's no question about it. But you also, like

508
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,400
this roster next year, regardless of if Bryce Underwood signed

509
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,160
with you or not, you have.

510
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,279
Speaker 2: To do better in the portal. Yeah, you have to

511
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,920
first portal window here, especially you you did really well

512
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,880
the first year.

513
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: The first year, I mean you went out and you

514
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
got some players that helped you get to an SEC

515
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,680
Championship game. It has not been that year, two, year three.

516
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,759
I'm trying to to currently think of an impactful player

517
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,480
that came out of the portal this year. Now you've

518
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,519
had some like Swinson developed, and so you know, from

519
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:40,200
when he first got here to right now, you know,

520
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,599
Kyan Lacy technically is a player out of the portal,

521
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,720
but he's been here for a long time now. Aaron

522
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,920
Anderson has gotten better, but he was two years ago.

523
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 5: I can only I can only think of one.

524
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,559
Speaker 2: CJ. Daniels.

525
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but that's it.

526
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: And even even CJ as much as like if you're

527
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,440
watching tape, you understand how good he's been because in

528
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,680
the run game he's a mauler.

529
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,559
Speaker 2: He comes up with big catches. He doesn't have a

530
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:04,119
ton of parts.

531
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,319
Speaker 3: But if you had, but if you had that equivalent

532
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,839
level player at other positions, you'd be way more solid

533
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,079
across the board, all right, Yeah, Like like I mean,

534
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,400
you still do want to go get a superstar or

535
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,440
whatever if you can, but like, yeah, if you had

536
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,440
like a CJ. Daniels level player at safety, you'd be yeah, there,

537
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Jin Jinks, you owed me a safety.

538
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,759
Speaker 2: Uh, you'd be you'd be I put five on it. Yeah. Yeah,

539
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:29,880
well I'm not that that.

540
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking like. I'm not talking y'all. I

541
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,559
hope y'all know this about me. I'm not talking about

542
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,519
you go get the former five star because he has

543
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:38,880
five stars. You've tried that as well, Denver Harris, that

544
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119
has not worked out for you. I'm talking about going

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,519
to get it, like impactful players out of the portal,

546
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,960
like you're talking about Diego Pavia earlier and that's who

547
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,519
you're playing this weekend. I'm talking about like going to

548
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,000
find a player that fits what you're trying to get

549
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,559
done and use those resources that you were going to

550
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,400
use on some of these high school players.

551
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,519
Speaker 2: Maybe you miss out, but you have to do better

552
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,039
in the portal. Yeah, and they will. They will.

553
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,599
Speaker 3: They're significantly upping their investment. They kind of thought they

554
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:09,559
could go bargain bin shopping a bit, and I mean.

555
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,319
Speaker 2: Well it's been dollar general results.

556
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's I mean. Unfortunately, if you look,

557
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,839
I mean, well, I don't think this is unfortunate because

558
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,960
I'm down for players to make as much money as

559
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,559
possible and I just love college football no matter what.

560
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,000
But unfortunatelybe for LSU or for schools that if you're

561
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:33,039
stressing about money, go look at the rankings. You know,

562
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,240
the results are the results, And it turns out the

563
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,079
teams that spend the most have a much better chance

564
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:40,000
of winning the most.

565
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 2: Right, whether it's.

566
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,519
Speaker 3: Oregon and they're fifteen to twenty Ohio State and they're

567
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,240
fifteen to twenty Texas and they're fifteen to twenty Georgia

568
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,359
and they're fifteen old miss right, Like like all these

569
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,640
schools Tennessee, all the schools that put in the most

570
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,559
money or all of the all.

571
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: At the top right now except for Signetti. Come on, Kurt,

572
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:02,279
we need you.

573
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:05,759
Speaker 4: But even he had a path his JMU players he

574
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:08,200
got thirteen of them. Yeah, and even even him not

575
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680
being up there, he actually had something that was different.

576
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,119
He had thirteen veteran players that knew what it was

577
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,079
like to win well. And all jokes aside there. The

578
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:19,200
main thing Signetti's doing right now is rallying investors.

579
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,799
Speaker 3: He is putting together a war chest. He even said it.

580
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:23,160
He was like, they were like, why do you go

581
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,599
to Indiana? And he was like, I saw the big

582
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640
ten contract money? Duh, Like what do you mean I saw?

583
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,480
I saw we were gonna be able to pay players.

584
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,799
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to think of like, and you're right,

585
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,440
and I love how open signette is. I'm trying to

586
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,319
think of teams that have overachieved this year, like we

587
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,960
didn't have expectations for them, and where they're at and

588
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,759
what they've done in the portal, Like Arizona State's not

589
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,759
a team that's going to, you know, get a lot

590
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:49,519
of headlines here.

591
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: They had as much portal movement as anything.

592
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: About this I read. I read it yesterday. I didn't

593
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,359
realize this so over the past. Out of the twenty

594
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,839
seven potential starters for Saturday's game, twenty three joined Arizona

595
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680
State in the last twenty two months. Yeah, so the

596
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,079
last two years, so they completely remade the team. Toped

597
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:06,359
about it.

598
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,119
Speaker 4: I I interviewed Kenny dealing him nice two weeks ago,

599
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:11,799
I think or week you I don't remember what it was.

600
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,319
And I was asking him about that, and you know, hey, coach,

601
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:15,920
you know kind of speed dating a little bit. How

602
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,319
are you finding all these players because that's who you're accounting. No,

603
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720
He's like, it is speed dating. But also I can

604
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480
turn on the tape and I can tell can this

605
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,440
player play for me. Yeah, He's like, if I'm watching

606
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,400
a running back and on endsign zone he cringes on contact,

607
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,920
can't play for me. If I'm watching the tape and

608
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480
a linebacker half steps on an ISO, can't play for me,

609
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:34,440
He's like, and that's how he was.

610
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm looking.

611
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,359
Speaker 4: For a certain like mold of player right now because

612
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,079
we have a certain identity and I can tell him

613
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,640
three plays is that player going to be? Because he's like, look,

614
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,079
if the player's playing in the power for he's starting

615
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,880
out there, he's talented. He's talented enough to play to

616
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Arizona State. He's like, these are the things I'm looking for.

617
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,480
If I see him, let's go get him. If I don't,

618
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:55,400
we'll move on.

619
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we'll continued to talk what is mean

620
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:04,160
for Joe Sloan uh and and your comments as well. Again,

621
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.

646
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:36,039
Speaker 3: Off the Bench, bro we never stood a chance. So

647
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:42,920
there's a tweet. If this is real, it looks pretty real,

648
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:49,559
But it looks like a graphic that would send out too.

649
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,759
I'm guessing like the Michigan Collective members are just kind

650
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,119
of a Michigan newsletter type family. But it's from the

651
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,319
Michigan Collective and in it they're thinking Larry tell Us

652
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400
in for his help in recruiting Bryce Underwood. I had

653
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,440
no idea Larry Elson was a Michigan man Oracle CEO

654
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,880
worth two hundred and thirty billion dollars.

655
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: What we hit? A chance? He's it a chance? What

656
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,200
you talking about? Oh?

657
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,759
Speaker 3: This is even different than the one that we're looking at.

658
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 5: Oh wow, it basically says the same thing. Larry Ellison's

659
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,720
name in there. We want to thank Jolin and Larry

660
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,559
Elkinson who were instrumental in making this happen by providing

661
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,279
Champion Circle with invaluable guidance and financial reasons.

662
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: Hey Larry, I'm not thinking you, Okay, I'm mad at you,

663
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:43,640
Larry freaking sure?

664
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Speaker 2: What does this do for Joe Sloane? Now?

665
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,279
Speaker 3: Because Sloan's been going through it, Kelly busted out the

666
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:57,400
play card, there's Tommy Reese rumors abounding, and Sloan's kind

667
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,160
of lifeline and all of this the Bryce Underwood commitment,

668
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,720
and now that's gone.

669
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what that relationship is.

670
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,559
Speaker 4: Obviously it was very strong a year ago whenever you

671
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,199
made you know, Joe Sloan the play caller and you

672
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,519
moved on from from Mike Denbrock. Yeah, the offense you chose,

673
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,360
you chose to bump up. Now, the offense early in

674
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,719
the season was moving right along. When you went into

675
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,039
halftime in College Station, Gary Nessmyer was the best quarterback

676
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:37,559
in the SEC.

677
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: That wasn't just us saying that. I was.

678
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: I was getting texts during that game during halftime. Uh,

679
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:47,119
everyone that works at Techsaggs, including our boy Billy Luci,

680
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,440
They're like, yep, y'all got the best quarterback in the SEC.

681
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:54,159
Since then, obviously we know what's happened last ten quarters.

682
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,960
I think what three touchdowns? It hasn't all been bad,

683
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,159
but the red zone issues have been there all season long.

684
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,960
So they're like, there's things that we could point to

685
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,360
within the offense that haven't been there all season. But

686
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:11,119
I do I do prepas that with saying like there

687
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,559
was a time not that long ago when people thought

688
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:14,800
you had the best quarterback in the league.

689
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, look, I I I don't know.

690
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: I I think I think sone has been uh average

691
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,840
to slightly above average, maybe even good. But I do

692
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,559
think that I'm a bit more uh forgiving. I think

693
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,079
I think I'm maybe not judging with as a strict

694
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,320
of a line as many are, and maybe even judge,

695
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,639
you know, a bit more forgiving than Brian Kelly himself.

696
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,920
I mean, him busting out the play sheet is it's

697
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,280
a tough look. It's a tough look for your boy

698
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,280
because we've never seen him before. You know, all of

699
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,000
a sudden there's talking about you know, I'm the head coach.

700
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,440
I want to be involved. Things aren't going well, like

701
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,599
I want to do this, So I I don't. I

702
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,000
don't know what happens to coach sone. This is my

703
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,559
least favorite part of the job. But that is that

704
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,360
is crazy too, to think that it could be a

705
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400
you know, a d commitment. You could be the straw

706
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that broke. I mean, that's a brutal part about college coach.

707
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,320
You know, theyre highly paid. That's awesome, right, but you know,

708
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,519
by going outhouse to the pen or penthouse to the

709
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,400
outhouse like that, Like you said, a couple of weeks

710
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,480
ago offense rolling. So it's awesome. He's gonna be the

711
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,440
ECU head coach. Everything's all good. But I said, like whatever,

712
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and who knows where you stand now from like a

713
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,840
do I have a job standpoint? Which is wild because

714
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an eighteen year old, Because because the founder of one

715
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920
of the largest tech companies in the entire world paid

716
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,079
an eighteen year old twelve million dollars to go play

717
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,039
football at Michigan and now you're out of the job.

718
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,679
Speaker 2: What what? What is this world? I do love Shapa's comment.

719
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Speaker 3: He says billionaires are ruined in this country the same

720
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way they did in the late nineteenth century with Morgan, Rockefeller,

721
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et cetera.

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Speaker 2: I agree for I agree, uh, you know, I love

723
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that this is what you know.

724
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Speaker 3: But this, I this is this like a lot of

725
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,039
the other stuff, but this is, yes, this is the

726
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,039
straw that where people are finally gonna wake up to

727
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,239
what billionaires are doing to this this beautiful country of ours.

728
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Speaker 4: I mean, college athletics is it's comical at times because

729
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,599
and me, Taylor and the lines we're talking about this

730
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,000
right before we came on today, because you know, they

731
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:25,800
do the Brian Kelly Show and I was like, did

732
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,800
they like talk about that, like, and I know, you

733
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,320
got to be vague. I was like, did they talk

734
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,800
about it at all? They're like no, no, you know,

735
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,719
because you can't mention recruits Like yeah, I know, you

736
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,679
can't mention them by name. And I started thinking about this.

737
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:39,480
I was like, we can give a recruit twelve million dollars,

738
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,639
but we can't say his name when a coach a show.

739
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: True, so stupid, so stupid.

740
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: He already decommitted. What are they really gonna do if

741
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,639
Brian Kelly goes up there and be like, y'all want

742
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,119
to know what happened to Price Underwood? Here's my tail all, Like,

743
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:53,280
what are they actually gonna.

744
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Do in the end today? I will even try to

745
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,840
do something like.

746
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: What's the matter?

747
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So I do remind me on the other side

748
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,920
of this break, I do want to talk about one

749
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,360
last angle here, which is what does the settlement mean

750
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,159
for NIL going forward?

751
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,159
Speaker 2: Real quick? So he said, but like dim Brock didn't

752
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,119
even get fired. He just said no. He just left

753
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,079
said Noah, do it? I'm out?

754
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: I mean yes, But also like I I'm pretty you know,

755
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,639
I think they went to din broadcast and to be

756
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,119
coc and he's kind of like, wait a second, like

757
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,079
hold up, Like I just put together number one off

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as the country and now you want to make a

759
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co See it's kind of the same thing you did

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to be a notre name.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm out.

762
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Speaker 3: So it was it wasn't I mean, he was not fired, certainly,

763
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,599
but he wasn't shown the love, uh that that you

764
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,719
would expect after a year like the one that he had.

765
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: All Right, let's close out. I don't want to be.

766
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: Off the bench.

767
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,639
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.

768
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Speaker 2: Off the bench, we did mean, welcome back to OTB.

769
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,760
It's it'll be weird to be Todd Graves.

770
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine having thousands upon thousands of strangers yelling

771
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
at you on how to spend your money?

772
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: That's crazy when you spend a lot.

773
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're already you're already like, wait a second,

774
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,079
I'm spending more, I'm spending the most.

775
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,639
Speaker 2: What's here? And they're like, why can't you keep up

776
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:40,519
with Phil Knight, Larry Els? What what are we talking about? Guys?

777
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,079
I don't know. Man, You spend your money however you want, dude,

778
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,000
spend your money.

779
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: Ever you want the uh so, okay, So let's talk

780
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,159
about this because my greatest insecurity entering the nil era

781
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,840
was the Louisiana state economy, which continues to be a joke,

782
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,880
continues to get and worse. We continue to have people

783
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,719
leave the state at a higher rate than nearly anybody

784
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,920
else in the entire country.

785
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: Lack of opportunity, all that brain drain.

786
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: Right, So in some ways, this you know, losing bidding wars,

787
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,760
finding out that you put five million dollars into this

788
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,960
roster or other schools are putting fifteen to twenty. It

789
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:24,199
certainly feels if all my fears are coming true. However,

790
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,880
on July first, the NCAA anti trust lawsuit kicks in.

791
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Collectives are gone and every school will be involved in

792
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,079
revenue sharing. Right, let's just deal with round numbers called

793
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,079
twenty million dollars. So every school have twenty million dollars

794
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:45,360
from which to pay players. So in theory, in theory,

795
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,480
that should be almost like a salary cap, potentially more

796
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,800
even playing field, and should you know, potentially dispel any

797
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,639
of these economic insecurities that I have. But my question

798
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:04,239
that I still have is what happens when Larry Alison

799
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,119
Todd Gravesvill Knight. Whoever still wants a player, you can't

800
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:11,960
stop them from advertising with that person, right, And what

801
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,719
stops an agent from representing players and going to local

802
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,000
businesses and being like, hey, you know, here's here's you

803
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:21,960
know you want to come here you can pay for

804
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,000
So I know the NCAA is going to make going

805
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,159
to try to make collectives illegal. I have questions about

806
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:33,280
whether they can actually do that. And beyond that, I mean,

807
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:38,679
look water money like water finds a way, and there

808
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,159
will be a cottage industry. I think at least that

809
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,960
will pop up. So maybe it won't be as extreme

810
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,960
in terms of the haves and the have nots and

811
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,039
whatnot and the disparities in spending with that kind of

812
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,800
twenty million that everybody's going to be coming up with

813
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,039
off the bat. But I don't think it's going to

814
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,599
be completely eaving. And I do still believe that for

815
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:01,039
the biggest of recruits there's going to be bidding wars.

816
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what he's talking about if if you know whatever,

817
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,440
if the Tennessee Booster owns this massive business, then you

818
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,079
know Nico can go beyond that commercial If you know,

819
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
whoever go to go to whatever school, whatever their biggest

820
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,599
own or whatever business he has. If they have advertising,

821
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,960
which all of them do, they can put that player

822
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000
on the advertising and that is a way around it.

823
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what you're saying.

824
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, A thousand saying yeah, Like you're not going

825
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,400
to collective and giving them money and telling you and

826
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,760
then letting them spend how they want. But like, you know,

827
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,920
I want to stuff to school from telling the local

828
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,800
businessner who really want this guy? And uh wordam the

829
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,760
street is just gonna offer from so and so do advertise.

830
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,599
Speaker 2: Maybe you want if you.

831
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: Were gonna give us four million back in the day

832
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,159
last year for the collective, maybe four million to put

833
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:44,880
him in a commercial.

834
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, that's in both worlds. You'll do a little

835
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:53,280
deal with them. Huh yeah, So christll Andrew, you need

836
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,440
the irony. The irony is we need the inblate to

837
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,239
fix and Aile I don't. I don't think I need

838
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,960
the antiblay to fix anything. I know LSU is on

839
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,599
the downcing right now. But like college football is awesome.

840
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,679
It's as competitive and wide open as it's ever been.

841
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,840
There's more parody, it's a ton of good teams. I

842
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,639
think it's awesome.

843
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: I hate that potentially the school that I root for

844
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,960
may be on kind of the losing end of.

845
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Some of these.

846
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:26,079
Speaker 3: Market circumstances, But I think it's awesome. I don't want

847
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:27,079
anything fixed.

848
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have more parody than you've ever had, well,

849
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,320
at least in recent memory, as long as I can

850
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,239
remember watching college football.

851
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean since O seven and now it does remain

852
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,480
to be seen. Is this year the exception or the rule? Right?

853
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,360
I think it's the rule though, because of how you

854
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,920
can fill gaps. We'll see. Even last year I was

855
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,840
pretty such yeah, yeah.

856
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: Right, last year there was some teams that popped off,

857
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,000
and I mean, look at the last two years. We've

858
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,880
had TCU in Washington and Natties. Yeah, now that didn't

859
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,519
go their way. They got housed in both of them,

860
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,039
but still they made it to that point.

861
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,519
Speaker 3: That's something that I hate though, in this Indiana argument,

862
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,480
been having people people look at you, You look at you,

863
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,440
and I'm like, okay, let okay. They beat Michigan in

864
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,079
the semi final. Yeah, Like were they not supposed to?

865
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:11,199
They weren't a playoff team, and yet they beat the

866
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,079
Big Ten champions who were undefeated like in the Simmis. Like, no,

867
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,239
they were a playoff team. They just weren't nearly as

868
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:17,960
good as Georgia.

869
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:21,639
Speaker 4: It was an awful mattress, freakishly good, and circumstances went

870
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sideways early in that game.

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