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Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the Quick Has Regularague podcast. This
Speaker 1: is the pod that tools are like. It is season three,
Speaker 1: episode twenty five. That's one hundred and fifteen episodes. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: Artie ten. How are you guys?
Speaker 3: Good, good afternoon, good evening everybody. How was your week?
Speaker 3: What weekend of football?
Speaker 1: It was great? It was great. How are you ten?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Really good, really good. You know I had to,
Speaker 4: I know, talking about it before you jumped on. But
Speaker 4: I've really been getting back into football because I'm going
Speaker 4: to finish scene.
Speaker 1: So that's it for AFL. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It's been a pretty good week. The weekend of footy.
Speaker 4: I felt like I laughed, like waited so long to
Speaker 4: watch games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be the same this weekend too. Unfortunately, no
Speaker 1: George tonight because he's not feeling well. So that's the
Speaker 1: three of us carrying it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's looking he's already depressed. Mat he hasn't finished it, George.
Speaker 3: I've still got another two more weeks.
Speaker 1: Man, Do you reckon? That's it? Do you reckon? It's
Speaker 1: because the dogs lost? I doubt it, doubt I'm really kidding.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so week two of the finals is down
Speaker 1: and we're down to the nuts and bolts. Ardie, I
Speaker 1: can't ask George, where's Finals Week two? So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you.
Speaker 3: It's in the can.
Speaker 1: In the can, it's in the can. Can. Have you
Speaker 1: got the good thing of the week for us? You
Speaker 1: know what?
Speaker 3: My good thing of the week was Ala now one performance.
Speaker 3: I'm wanted it the dogs. His first year he wins
Speaker 3: the Grand Four, and his second year he knocks his
Speaker 3: team out that didn't want him. So yeah, and with
Speaker 3: in style, with three tries. But he just looks like
Speaker 3: a really happy man and a good footballer. He's a
Speaker 3: really good player.
Speaker 1: And some sessions of the media were criticizing him for
Speaker 1: carrying on and it's like the guys just had a
Speaker 1: killer performance against the club that didn't want him exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got every right to do that, exactly.
Speaker 4: He's brilliant.
Speaker 1: He was amazing, he was amazing. He's so good.
Speaker 4: I think that that's the great good good thing at
Speaker 4: the week.
Speaker 3: And the other good thing of the week just the
Speaker 3: daytime forty just saving all the people. I love daytime footy.
Speaker 3: Every final series would be just Daytime.
Speaker 1: I missed the three o'clock Grand Final. I miss it.
Speaker 1: The year two thousand, we haven't had.
Speaker 3: It It just looks so good, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing like that, that sunny afternoon grand final thing.
Speaker 1: You know, the night games is a less different. It is,
Speaker 1: it is, and that's a good thing. But what's in
Speaker 1: Niko has been this week. Well, your good thing leads
Speaker 1: into my bad things. So my bid thing is Cameron Surrealdo.
Speaker 1: I feel good, geez. I mean, what a car crash
Speaker 1: that was from they. This is the team that halfway
Speaker 1: through the season was coming first out of the best
Speaker 1: defense in the league. They can send forty two tackles
Speaker 1: in the first half, sorry, forty two missed tackles in
Speaker 1: the first half. And and the reason, the reason that
Speaker 1: it might bin is because apparently they're the only arms
Speaker 1: that don't realize it. You know, talking about how good
Speaker 1: Ala money was you had And I brought this up
Speaker 1: last week. Bat Burton playing in the centers for the
Speaker 1: first time this year. A new halves combination, A brand
Speaker 1: new halves combination. It's never been tested before in a
Speaker 1: sudden death match. But when Phil Good was asked about it,
Speaker 1: this is his response, verbatim. It suits the media narrative
Speaker 1: to describe it the way you did. Just then, None,
Speaker 1: none of that was in our four walls. None of
Speaker 1: it was anywhere from our players or coaches. This is,
Speaker 1: by the way Paul Gallan asking him about about this,
Speaker 1: you know, collapse. We're delighted to have Gavin on our books.
Speaker 1: We didn't know it was going to happen at the time,
Speaker 1: but we made a decision that we wanted him in
Speaker 1: the club. Now it's led to this media barrage, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it has been childish and extremely unfair.
Speaker 1: But as I say to the boys, welcome to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: We get that stuff all the time. That's part of
Speaker 1: being in our jersey, playing the victim again, right, This
Speaker 1: boy was outstanding yesterday in a badly beaten side. I
Speaker 1: thought he really shared his class and he's a real
Speaker 1: player of the future. He set up and scored one try.
Speaker 1: I didn't see much else. He was heavily targeted in defense.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I don't know. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll get into when we cover the game anyway. But
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that when we cover the game.
Speaker 1: But in terms of controversy corner, there's not that much
Speaker 1: to talk about. The roosters. You know whose name I
Speaker 1: can't pronounce, Mark apparently has informed the club that after
Speaker 1: next season he's going back to rugby union. So that's
Speaker 1: a loss for the game.
Speaker 3: That's a huge loss. After the season he's had, oh
Speaker 3: coeol gutted with the Roosters, you know, like they've brought
Speaker 3: this guy on, he's had an outstanding year. They can
Speaker 3: build a team around him, like he's part of their future,
Speaker 3: and then a year later he's going to go.
Speaker 1: I'd go little bit further. I'm a little angry at
Speaker 1: lenders in the NRL who've probably made him feel I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, true, they've had they've.
Speaker 4: Had a bit of disruption, I guess with their oh
Speaker 4: and I guess controversy corner. You can talk about how
Speaker 4: what's his name the guy that's got done for texting
Speaker 4: Brandon Smith about yeah, like he because everyone's blowing up
Speaker 4: about it that he got, you know, fine, and then
Speaker 4: he's gotten he's suspended for ten games. And because people
Speaker 4: don't read be on the headline. Obviously the NRL suspended ma'am.
Speaker 4: His club has suspended him. But I feel like the
Speaker 4: Roosters might be a little bit disturbed next year, like
Speaker 4: the first part of the season, because if he's out
Speaker 4: for ten games Mirkey muck Stain next year obviously, but
Speaker 4: they've got a few kind of different different movements in
Speaker 4: that team. Something that we talked about more probably earlier Lush,
Speaker 4: which we can talk about next time. But the signings
Speaker 4: and how the clubs of you know, who's coming to
Speaker 4: which club? I think last year it was pretty while
Speaker 4: because you had so many people leaving Penrith as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we can do that any of our season
Speaker 1: wrap in the last yeah for sure. I mean some
Speaker 1: of them, yes, some of them turned out really good,
Speaker 1: some of them not so good.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? What happened to Radley?
Speaker 1: They're just idiots, you know. I mean, like George says,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do in your spare time, do it.
Speaker 1: You know, as a professional first grader, I wouldn't risk
Speaker 1: being drug tested randomly, you know. I wouldn't risk I
Speaker 1: wouldn't risk doing it certainly during the season. And there's
Speaker 1: nothing to well, they say, there's nothing to suggest that
Speaker 1: it was even for him. But I've been around long
Speaker 1: enough to know what it looks like when someone orders
Speaker 1: an eight ball. I can tell you that, So say
Speaker 1: cut the bullshit, seriously, you know when when when Brandon Smith,
Speaker 1: he's a repeat offender. You know, he did this back
Speaker 1: at Melbourne when when he was caught with Cameron Munster
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys in the hotel room, and
Speaker 1: the NRL's point of view at that point was we
Speaker 1: can't test them because it's the off season now, because
Speaker 1: it happened like two days after they got eliminated or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, just it just proves not so much
Speaker 1: Victor Rady, but Brandon Smith is an absolute moron and
Speaker 1: these guys, honestly, I mean, I wouldn't sign them. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have him. And Wayne Bennett took him and
Speaker 1: then this blew up in his lap so he's forced
Speaker 1: to defend him. But I'm sure, I'm sure he's having
Speaker 1: second thoughts about it, but there's not much he can
Speaker 1: do now. Last year, Yeah, they're just but I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing any of them for doing it. Just
Speaker 1: be smarter. It's like when people get filmed doing something
Speaker 1: like they're idiots. You know, if you're going to do something,
Speaker 1: you know, phones in the bedroom, if you're in a
Speaker 1: hotel or whatever, like they're just they're just idiots.
Speaker 4: So I find it funny that people hold people to
Speaker 4: such a high step, like, you know, obviously they're players,
Speaker 4: are professional players. Like even Corey was like, look, obviously
Speaker 4: at the professional level and you know the players that
Speaker 4: they really need to set this example. But if you
Speaker 4: go to any stadium where my kids are sitting, the
Speaker 4: fans are feral, and I know they're not on them,
Speaker 4: but it's kind of like, don't sit there and be.
Speaker 1: My take on that is I don't necessarily agree that
Speaker 1: players need to be like role models in they do
Speaker 1: when they're on stage, but what they do in their
Speaker 1: spare time is no one's business, and like this is
Speaker 1: no one's business. It's become public news. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: is the guy's an idiot because he's been caught out
Speaker 1: before and he's and he's dumb enough to use a
Speaker 1: work issued device to do drug deals. It's just stupidity.
Speaker 4: Is there anything around where Radily will go because.
Speaker 1: Apparently his manager I'd take him, Yeah, well.
Speaker 4: Like the phoners ringing off the hook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd take him. I'd take him, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, see there, there, there you go again.
Speaker 1: So it's this goes back to you guys may remember
Speaker 1: Canberra a few years back, ten years or whatever. I
Speaker 1: had some had some awesome players on their books, like
Speaker 1: Blake Ferguson and Odd Carney, and there's one or two
Speaker 1: others that actually can't remember Josh Dugan if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: all of these guys wanted out of their contract. Now
Speaker 1: I know this is not the same, but all you
Speaker 1: had to do was go out and do something stupid,
Speaker 1: you'd get you'd get fired, and another club would sign you.
Speaker 1: So this is out of victor around his hands because
Speaker 1: he didn't instigate this or whatever. But if the club,
Speaker 1: if the club moves to terminate him because they feel
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do, they're just gifting another club.
Speaker 1: He's just getting it. So it's not it's not a
Speaker 1: situation with the NRL. You know, terminates the con for
Speaker 1: a two year period or whatever. He's going to be
Speaker 1: free to go somewhere else. So do do everyone else
Speaker 1: a favorite sack him? You're just strengthen someone else.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What obsessed me about this whole thing is I feel
Speaker 3: it's been he's been unfairly treated. This only came out
Speaker 3: because Brandon Smith went to court and they released his
Speaker 3: text messages. He really didn't do anything. He was only
Speaker 3: part of a text message. Just anything that he's guilty of.
Speaker 3: You know, we've had guys like Ryce Walsh got caught
Speaker 3: with a bay, we had the Monster. We had Brandon
Speaker 3: Ages ago.
Speaker 1: He asked he asked Brandon Smith to get him at April.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he did, but that text message came out.
Speaker 3: But all these other guys, we had Braidon Trindle, Braiden
Speaker 3: Trindle last year got caught with cocaine and alcohol in
Speaker 3: his system. We had what's his name, the other guy
Speaker 3: that you guys car Yeah, they got one or two weeks.
Speaker 1: See, it's the same situation that I just described. Canterbury's
Speaker 1: hand was forced. Yeah, they had to sack him. Some
Speaker 1: people in some sessions of the media saying he's had
Speaker 1: his best season ever this year. Yeah, so they they
Speaker 1: weakened themselves, they strengthened out. I'll tell you what. They
Speaker 1: could have used him on Sunday.
Speaker 3: They could have the Bulldogs, but those Soky was still
Speaker 3: get to get rid of him anyway. They needed to
Speaker 3: through the money so they can buy others. So it
Speaker 3: was sort of worked in their favor. They get rid
Speaker 3: of it because it was not like eight seven hundred
Speaker 3: or eight hundred or something. It was on good money.
Speaker 1: So they did it work out in their favor. Well,
Speaker 1: they brought in some play on it.
Speaker 3: They brought in Galvin Theger, but.
Speaker 1: They had that workout. But yeah, just yea, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's something that none of us
Speaker 1: should know about to be fair and and and if
Speaker 1: this stuff is released in court, then it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: released publicly.
Speaker 3: Exactly, did it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 1: My only my only point is that Brandon Smith is
Speaker 1: an absolutely more on Yeah, and yeah I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go anywhere near him, but that's just me and
Speaker 1: his performances are unwarranted anyway. So yeah, it's just looked
Speaker 1: that good.
Speaker 3: And they said, Nick Polatus, you know he's not going hard,
Speaker 3: but well were interested why he wanted to get rid
Speaker 3: of Brandon Smith like he was a big signing for
Speaker 3: Snick Polite. It's like they were chasing him harder that
Speaker 3: only got him and to get rid of him after
Speaker 3: he thinks something's going funny around.
Speaker 1: He performed and was injury ridden as well, but there
Speaker 1: must have.
Speaker 3: Been he must have knew about that as well, so
Speaker 3: maybe let's get rid of this guy. He's a bad influence.
Speaker 3: Obviously he was exactly That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like he's like he likes to play himself up as
Speaker 1: Alaric and he's not Alarican. He's an idiot. Yeah, big difference,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Funny like if you even if you are on the
Speaker 4: outskirts of footy players, whether they're footy players, plays or
Speaker 4: players whatever, for all of them to just be completely shocked,
Speaker 4: like every again it's not about business. But also don't
Speaker 4: sit there in your laurels.
Speaker 1: And pretend you know that you know how many rugby
Speaker 1: league players are doing it exactly right usually with the
Speaker 1: randing testing that they're informed on the day, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they just they'll be sent to the weight room or something.
Speaker 1: They won't they won't be in the change room around
Speaker 1: on the paddic when this is all handled internally by
Speaker 1: every club by the way, right, So so a player
Speaker 1: at training will say, you know what, today you're doing
Speaker 1: gym work or something. They won't be there on site
Speaker 1: when the test is. It's more common than you think.
Speaker 1: And it all started with Andrew Johns as well. It's true, right,
Speaker 1: It's true because he was never because when he came
Speaker 1: out and publicly admitted that he was he was doing
Speaker 1: recreational drugs throughout his whole career, then the league was
Speaker 1: made to look foolish. You do random testing, How was
Speaker 1: this never picked up? You know, it's because he was
Speaker 1: always informed when someone was coming. It's funny and sorry no,
Speaker 1: it's also one of my arguments against why he's an immortal.
Speaker 1: Not because he was doing drugs. I don't hold that
Speaker 1: against him, but because the guy admitted to taking a
Speaker 1: value on game day to came his nerves. Well, if
Speaker 1: you have to do that, maybe you're not as good
Speaker 1: as you think, because the best players then they had
Speaker 1: to handle the pressure without taking tablets. You know. So
Speaker 1: just my take on it.
Speaker 4: Funny years ago, and I don't know if you know,
Speaker 4: Da r in a field mining service business with my
Speaker 4: ex and we had it for like seven years. So
Speaker 4: it's basically although like his's diesel fitters, supervisors in utes
Speaker 4: working for the mines. So they had our utes. We
Speaker 4: bought fleet and stuff, and we do random like drug
Speaker 4: testing of course, and we were pretty strict to our guys,
Speaker 4: but the guys actually worked for the client. Like the
Speaker 4: stories that you heard like they you know, would buy
Speaker 4: fake penises, fake because they watched them. So you've got
Speaker 4: to watch them as they do it, and then like
Speaker 4: fake we.
Speaker 1: As well, or like yeah, you've got to go into
Speaker 1: you've got to go to a toilet cubicle. And so
Speaker 1: they were just like have this. You know, it used
Speaker 1: to work. So me and Andy when we used to
Speaker 1: do form work, we did it for a couple of
Speaker 1: our colleagues on site who were testing. Once we'd go
Speaker 1: and pissing into a jar for them into into a
Speaker 1: bottle and they'd hand it in and be clean because
Speaker 1: they weren't clean while they're on But this is our
Speaker 1: construction sites, right while we're on probation and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: they have weekly Back then in the nineties, they would
Speaker 1: have to just bring the bottle to the to the
Speaker 1: probation to the probation officer, whereas nowadays, if you get
Speaker 1: drug tested for a job, someone literally stands outside the cubicle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's ways of you know, it gets measured by
Speaker 1: its warmth and all that to make sure it's yea.
Speaker 4: And so they would have these bladders and then there's
Speaker 4: a bladder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can actually you can actually get someone to
Speaker 1: do it for you, and five minutes later into a bladder,
Speaker 1: and five minutes later, just carry that bladder in your
Speaker 1: pocket into the cubicle and then and then pull that
Speaker 1: into the bottle. There's a million ways.
Speaker 4: These guys are not operating eight million dollar machinery that
Speaker 4: can potentially kill people in the mindset. But also just
Speaker 4: wait until like the end of the season or when
Speaker 4: you don't meet Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't hold it
Speaker 1: against them. I just think you'd have to be done
Speaker 1: to get caught in this day and age, with everything
Speaker 1: everything so under the microscope, you'd have to be an
Speaker 1: idiot to get caught more than once. And obviously Brandon
Speaker 1: Smith has any is you know, I keep going back
Speaker 1: to it, but it's it's never going to leave. It's
Speaker 1: part of it. You know, Well, what's real?
Speaker 3: Are they going to suspend Brandon Smith? Really like that?
Speaker 3: What's the story there?
Speaker 1: Are they just waiting for the court case to go
Speaker 1: They're waiting for the court they said, they said that
Speaker 1: they're waiting for the court case to conclude before they
Speaker 1: before they decide whether or they'll take any action. At
Speaker 1: the moment, there's nothing they can really suspend him for like,
Speaker 1: no one's been at the end of the day, no
Speaker 1: one's been tested for anything. It's it comes down to
Speaker 1: a joking text. Really everyone knows what it was, but
Speaker 1: there's no physical evidence to prove that anything actually happened exactly,
Speaker 1: So it just smeths his name. Other than that, I
Speaker 1: don't think anything will come of it. You know, the
Speaker 1: actions of Victor Radley. You know, it's like, if I
Speaker 1: was Victor Radley, I'd actually hire a lawyer and go
Speaker 1: against my club and say, where is the evidence that
Speaker 1: I've done anything wrong? Why am I being fined fifty
Speaker 1: zerosand dollars or whatever? It is, suspended for ten matches
Speaker 1: based on what have I done wrong? What can you
Speaker 1: prove it I've done wrong? In a court of law,
Speaker 1: you can't prove shit. So rather than you suspending me,
Speaker 1: I'm finding a lawsuit against you. That's how I rote. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'd end up leaving them, not the other way around.
Speaker 1: Yeah though, even though we all know what he did,
Speaker 1: but you know it was like twelve months ago.
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's just I didn't realize Brandon Smith was
Speaker 4: at the Southport So Nicko, it's like literally, I think
Speaker 4: we took you near there. It's like twenty minutes from
Speaker 4: my place to Southport. I don't realize who right. Apparently
Speaker 4: all these rap fans were outside the court.
Speaker 3: The last I heard about with Victor Radley is that
Speaker 3: he's going to state the Roosters. He's going to serve
Speaker 3: out the ten works and continue any other option will
Speaker 3: have his super League. I don't think he wants to
Speaker 3: play against the Roosters.
Speaker 1: I read yesterday that I read yesterday the club has
Speaker 1: informed his management his freedom negotiate with.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're not pushing him out, but no they're not. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they've told him that, but yeah, he doesn't want to leave.
Speaker 3: He prefer to stay there if not super League.
Speaker 4: So silly, he's like twenty seven.
Speaker 1: The only other thing is and tenuously laugh when I
Speaker 1: say this, and we'll go through the games obviously. Next
Speaker 1: Ricky Stewart's press conference one minute forty four seconds. One
Speaker 1: minute forty four seconds. Yeah, you know, it's part of
Speaker 1: the gig. You know, you're a professional. Do it, do
Speaker 1: it right, go out the right way. But I can
Speaker 1: understand he was understandably hurting. But I don't know. Let's
Speaker 1: come into the games. What do you guys, reckon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just one other bit of interesting news. I just
Speaker 3: remember that came out last week. Jack Debillin, you know
Speaker 3: the guy that the police officer that I put in
Speaker 3: the fake claim the fake evidence wasn't he wasn't he charged.
Speaker 3: He's been charged. He got probation, he didn't get prison sentence,
Speaker 3: but he's on community service. Yeah, he got he got charged,
Speaker 3: So he.
Speaker 1: Got the villain lost lost two years of his prime
Speaker 1: and representative money and all the rest of it. He's
Speaker 1: got a police officer that lied, understands.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and he's only going to get a twelve months
Speaker 3: community service or something like that.
Speaker 1: How how Like I understand the fact that he's a
Speaker 1: police officer, but I can't think of an nomino expert.
Speaker 1: I can't think of a time in history where a
Speaker 1: perjury charged didn't result in something more serious than community
Speaker 1: service exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how he explained that he should have saved ja
Speaker 3: jail time for sure.
Speaker 1: Anyway, the ethical benchmark is higher for a police officer, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it is for civilians.
Speaker 3: So well, maybe Jack de Billin can file case defamation
Speaker 3: cases now or whatever. He's done because he's ruined his career,
Speaker 3: like he's pretty dragged his name through the mud, what
Speaker 3: he put him through. I'm sure he can swing him
Speaker 3: for substantial amount of money.
Speaker 1: Malicious prosecution is a good place to start there, you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, that's the It's ridiculous, isn't it. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's let's move into the the finals, the games. So
Speaker 1: the Raiders after that heartbreaking loss at home again, they
Speaker 1: just looked flat, looked they lost Ethan. He's just strange,
Speaker 1: smiling too much. Nick, Nah, Yeah what I laugh at
Speaker 1: Ricky Stewart. That's where it starts and ends. I don't
Speaker 1: dislike Canberra. In fact, I have always loved the camera
Speaker 1: team in the late eighties and early nineties and he
Speaker 1: was part of that. You know, as a player, I
Speaker 1: loved him as a coach. He drives me nuts.
Speaker 4: You know that Ethan strange thing because I think you
Speaker 4: and I were chatting Nick on Saturday. It just I
Speaker 4: think first I thought it was men for and then apparently.
Speaker 1: He was really sect he was really sick.
Speaker 4: But god, that's so unlucky.
Speaker 1: It's huge. Like I thought, I thought to myself, imagine
Speaker 1: if Paramatta was playing today and I wake up to
Speaker 1: read that Moses is out like it's huge, huge loss.
Speaker 1: You can you can't really underestimate it, and it's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but they just overall looked flat. I mean it's understandable
Speaker 1: why against Brisbane they thought they had the game one
Speaker 1: a couple of times. To lose the way they did
Speaker 1: it was just heartbreaking. So they're a young side, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have the experience. He's done an amazing job
Speaker 1: with him this year. Yeah, I reckon he should be
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. If not, if not for Ivan
Speaker 1: Cleary that we can chat about later, but I just
Speaker 1: think what he's done yeah uh, I mean, we'll just
Speaker 1: touch on it on it now quickly. This guy took
Speaker 1: a team that was a dead last halfway through the
Speaker 1: season to lift them up and bring them back where
Speaker 1: they are now is a huge thing. I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't give them a chance in hell back then. But yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean for the for the Raiders, it was always
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, even though it was at home. And
Speaker 1: the Sharks look good. The Sharks look really good. They
Speaker 1: should they should back off on all the you know
Speaker 1: everyone's against us mentality. I mean, it's the first time
Speaker 1: you guys have won two finals games in a rown
Speaker 1: in ten years, so they get too excited, you know,
Speaker 1: but they they they all played really well. They and
Speaker 1: and Cambra started stronger. That's the thing. Can we're on
Speaker 1: the back foot and behind early, and Cambra started stronger.
Speaker 1: But it was a bit like the first Mister T
Speaker 1: fight and Rocky one three Rocky three. Rocky came out
Speaker 1: firing and then you were builded. That's that's what happened.
Speaker 4: Camera and Dogs are dissimilar, like their players are quite
Speaker 4: predictable though, and you're so right neck like in the
Speaker 4: before this game, I was like, the Raiders a younger team,
Speaker 4: you know, with the ships. They've got more history I am,
Speaker 4: and like I think that they played, like I really
Speaker 4: like Ronaldo Multado, Like I think he's a really good player.
Speaker 4: I was like reading up afterwards and I was watching
Speaker 4: like the interviews and stuff, and he he actually said
Speaker 4: something that that was quite good.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know.
Speaker 4: When you kind of go out there, he's talking about sledging,
Speaker 4: and he's like, I have a lot of words that
Speaker 4: I want to say all the time with sledging and
Speaker 4: things like that, but he's like, you shouldn't play if
Speaker 4: you can't handle what said to you out there, and
Speaker 4: I thought that was good like, and that obviously comes
Speaker 4: with maturity to like. I wouldn't say that Sharks are
Speaker 4: one of my favorite teams, but they were. They were
Speaker 4: really good like they're probably the best of really good,
Speaker 4: very conditioned from what I've seen. I actually messaged a
Speaker 4: message Greg Bird because he loves the Raiders but obviously
Speaker 4: played for the Sharks, and I was like, do you
Speaker 4: feel torn, queen?
Speaker 1: Who to go for?
Speaker 4: And he was like yes, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: they so, but but I think, you know, like I
Speaker 4: never liked the Sharks because of Gallant back the day,
Speaker 4: but having you know, looking at.
Speaker 1: How are you on the sledging, I've never been a fan.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a fan of it, mate, But in
Speaker 3: terms of the game, I think the eighth and strange
Speaker 3: loss was huge for Camber because a lot goes through him.
Speaker 3: He's massive, and the replacement I was very surprised with sisagive.
Speaker 3: This guy a first time I've seen him playing the half,
Speaker 3: so that was a massive.
Speaker 1: Risk for Stuart.
Speaker 3: And I've been Fitzy's biggest critic, but ever since that
Speaker 3: Bulldog's game, they've been They weren't tipped to win last
Speaker 3: week against the Roosters, everyone thoughts were doing. Everyone tipped
Speaker 3: Cambra to beat them. So FITZI has done at an
Speaker 3: amazing job. The Sharks played perfect that day, that second half.
Speaker 3: They don't make many errors. They just played go through
Speaker 3: the motions. The defense has been in a strange The
Speaker 3: defense has been amazing and they just wait for the
Speaker 3: right opportunities to attack. Heines is playing fantastic, sweeping their
Speaker 3: left and right. Brandon Trindle he chips in every now
Speaker 3: and then, but they're just playing. They've just hit their
Speaker 3: straps really well and they have gone. Like Nicora's sitting
Speaker 3: on the bench. He brought him in the second half,
Speaker 3: like Fitz is using his bench more effectively. He's got
Speaker 3: the Teleaquoi to argue whatever is Teleo. I think his
Speaker 3: name coming on as well. He's using his bench more effectively.
Speaker 3: He's just he's really matured as a coach and he's
Speaker 3: a big chance of making the Grand Final. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised I beat Melbourne. That's how good he's got
Speaker 3: him playing. That's the right word, because I think they've
Speaker 3: matured as a team. They have especially this season. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: and that's.
Speaker 4: Bitsy it is, and obviously he's more in the centers.
Speaker 4: But I hadn't seen him for quite some time. But
Speaker 4: the games, like he's what done I think seven or
Speaker 4: eight tries is here, Like he's on a bad player,
Speaker 4: but I think it was. I probably would have shuffled
Speaker 4: around Ricky probably didn't have the time as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, be the same day, Yeah, massive loss, like
Speaker 1: he had.
Speaker 3: He had the paramatic guy Ethan Sands Sanders or whatever
Speaker 3: his name is parent Matta.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if he wasn't on the team sheet,
Speaker 1: he couldn't be selected.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, because he's used him through the year.
Speaker 1: It was the same day, so it would have been
Speaker 1: the nineteen or eighteen or whatever it was that he
Speaker 1: had on the extent. I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: an extended bench or not. I mean he put him
Speaker 1: in a real spot, you know, you know, same day,
Speaker 1: same day, crucial.
Speaker 3: Position, very crucial position. Jamunt Fogget is copping a little
Speaker 3: bit the same thing, you know, like he sort of
Speaker 3: let them down with it, but he tried.
Speaker 1: Probably let them down the week before the week.
Speaker 3: Before he did. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know the
Speaker 3: Sharks just played the perfect game.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 3: They just did. You've got to give credit that the
Speaker 3: Sharks are amazing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and to be and to be fair to
Speaker 1: Mickey Stewart as well. In the in the minute and
Speaker 1: a half that he did his press conference, he was
Speaker 1: asked about and about you know that sty and he goes, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to blame that he goes by a
Speaker 1: better team, you know. And yeah, I sent I sent
Speaker 1: Tendor a short clip. I can't not lie. I just
Speaker 1: love watching Micky Stuart when he's angry. I can'tnot laugh.
Speaker 1: I can't think.
Speaker 4: I think if a team, I think we're talked about
Speaker 4: this last week or the week before, but if a
Speaker 4: team can't adapt, you know what I mean. Like you've
Speaker 4: seen the Eels, You've seen Broncos, you've seen Pantas. All
Speaker 4: these teams have heard that. Like our captain's been out
Speaker 4: like more weeks, and when he is in, he's like
Speaker 4: so strapped up that I kind of wonder if he's
Speaker 4: going to fall part way he's out there, But you
Speaker 4: have to be able to adap. It can't all hinge
Speaker 4: on one player.
Speaker 1: We're to learn that, Like without Moses, we're a different team.
Speaker 1: But in the last couple of weeks before his return,
Speaker 1: the team started to straighten up with wats his name
Speaker 1: from sales that we got so Hawkins, Yeah, Dean Hawkins.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I mean, no one can afford
Speaker 1: to lose their market players. Obviously I did it.
Speaker 4: I did so last week that I thought the might
Speaker 4: win only because I was still really annoyed it raiders,
Speaker 4: because I was like, anything can happen in this time
Speaker 4: of the year, but I realized it would be Ethan
Speaker 4: Strange sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but look over all, they had a wonderful season.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, and most people listening to this
Speaker 1: problem probably won't understand it, But to me, the Minor
Speaker 1: Premiership is the best team of the season because in
Speaker 1: every other competition around the world, most most especially in Europe,
Speaker 1: that's how champions are determined. Yeah, because that's the best team.
Speaker 1: I love the Grand Final format because exciting Camp Camp
Speaker 1: by far and away with the best team this season,
Speaker 1: and they're just going to get better because they're so young. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the only thing is with that, Nick, you can't
Speaker 3: not everyone plays each other twice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'd rather everyone play each other twice and have no
Speaker 3: final series than have a final series and play a rubbish.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, whoever's on the top
Speaker 1: of the end of the regular season. That's right, You're right.
Speaker 1: Some of the way the draw is done. Crazy.
Speaker 4: We were researching this on the weekend because Corey is like,
Speaker 4: I don't understand how your teams get picked, and I
Speaker 4: was like, well, we never play the same team twice,
Speaker 4: and obviously even prior to it being seventeen teams last
Speaker 4: year or like sorry both before the Dolphins, it was
Speaker 4: still selected and we were reading about it and I
Speaker 4: was like, well, basically it's driven by the NRL, the media,
Speaker 4: the time slade.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a computer generated computer which for some reason
Speaker 1: over the last ten years, over the last few years
Speaker 1: have given excuse me, Carna the softest draw. Not this
Speaker 1: season and the Broncos playing every Friday, but for the
Speaker 1: last ten years gives them a nice systemic preparation week in,
Speaker 1: week out, and team gets.
Speaker 3: That's scheduling. That's scheduling, that's the draw.
Speaker 1: That's the draw.
Speaker 4: When you have Broncos is a publicly listed company, which
Speaker 4: means that you can access documents that are from meetings
Speaker 4: and things like that, and obviously clubs too, when they
Speaker 4: do their agms or whatever. You can access information like that.
Speaker 4: It's not hard to look. Buts like that's nuts, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, and I said, it sucks though, because
Speaker 4: you know, if you had more you know, plays happening
Speaker 4: at the Shark Stadium, which you know obviously isn't great,
Speaker 4: but they would have more reason and more money to
Speaker 4: actually drop the stadium and make it. And then I
Speaker 4: didn't realize, which is probably why that Broncos get so
Speaker 4: much hate. But our first nine games are at home
Speaker 4: or were at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is what this is what does my
Speaker 1: head in, right, because the NRL's defense when it comes
Speaker 1: to things like the draw is it's it's computer generated.
Speaker 1: It's totally and I get no, no, that's that's all fine, right,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Now. What I don't understand
Speaker 1: is it. In any good organization, you run through that process,
Speaker 1: you come out with it this and you look at
Speaker 1: it and it's always analyzed and reported on pre season.
Speaker 1: You know, which team has the shortest most turnarounds, which
Speaker 1: team has the whatever, which team has you know, the
Speaker 1: most away games, whatever, which team is playing the most
Speaker 1: teams from the top eight or whatever. That's the point
Speaker 1: where you sit down and you review it, and then
Speaker 1: as a group around around a table in the boardroom,
Speaker 1: you reformat it to balance it out. You don't just
Speaker 1: sit on what something's spat out and go, well, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. None of the business as big
Speaker 1: as this, you know what I mean. You get the
Speaker 1: powers that be to sit down, review it, analyze it
Speaker 1: as people and balance it out and change things around,
Speaker 1: move things around and make it as even as possible.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be too hard to do.
Speaker 4: I barely saw Dolphins playing at home their home and
Speaker 4: some call. But it's like I remember when I worked,
Speaker 4: when I did the voluntary stuff for the community NRL
Speaker 4: club up here, and they were saying that what you
Speaker 4: do the minute the draw comes out, every single president
Speaker 4: is on the phone fighting to have their guys play
Speaker 4: on a Saturday and change the draw around. And the
Speaker 4: reasons they use were like, we say that half our
Speaker 4: team players are Mormon and they can't play on a Sunday.
Speaker 4: Like it was wild, and I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would go to that extent, but
Speaker 4: I you know, for people like you know, the media
Speaker 4: and stuff to have a lot of influence, like you know,
Speaker 4: Friday night's a really big night for sun Corp. Like
Speaker 4: they had. It's very obvious.
Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't be hard to balance it. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone's religious beliefs means they can't play on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: then as would be unlucky. That's a you problem.
Speaker 4: There was no there were not many religious people. They
Speaker 4: were just saying that.
Speaker 1: So they already started that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the computer generates who plays food, but the
Speaker 3: actual days they play, that's stumbley. The NRL and the
Speaker 3: media and the broadcast rights. I think the broadcast is
Speaker 3: because they used to do it in the past where
Speaker 3: every seven game that it's the schedule, they'd had the
Speaker 3: draw in front of them, but every seven weeks they
Speaker 3: change it. In case a team's combat, they would put
Speaker 3: them on Friday night.
Speaker 1: The thing is already it's done based off and this
Speaker 1: year had a lot of Sunday games. Historically we have
Speaker 1: a lot of Saturday night games, Saturday games. It's it's
Speaker 1: based it's based on TV ratings. It is. But here's
Speaker 1: my here's my thing. If every if every year, you
Speaker 1: make decisions based on TV ratings. Then the teams who
Speaker 1: are missing out on these time slots because they don't
Speaker 1: have good ratings aren't getting a chance to get those
Speaker 1: ratings because they're never playing on Saturday night.
Speaker 3: Or sponsorships and the sponsorships too. That's what the third
Speaker 3: parties were with the other big tim Broncos have got
Speaker 3: all the third parties because they got all the Friday
Speaker 3: night games, one time locations, time slots and everyone doesn't.
Speaker 1: It raises questions like why do the referees get a
Speaker 1: tip sheet before a game? Because you know, if you
Speaker 1: point out something about someone, then someone's gonna be more
Speaker 1: inclined to look at that. They're supposed to be impartial.
Speaker 1: They don't need a tip sheet. They're supposed to officiate
Speaker 1: what happens in front of them on the field, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a shame and you know, and
Speaker 4: I'm saying very obviously for Champions League, you can't have
Speaker 4: Liverpool traveling from there, and then then he's like, well,
Speaker 4: of course, like they make appropriate changes, like you're not going.
Speaker 1: To because no, Napoli had to go play man City
Speaker 1: in England, but they don't have to come to Naples
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot harder for us
Speaker 1: it is for them. You know.
Speaker 4: I feel like NRL is a bit more. It's very obviously,
Speaker 4: you know, skewed. It's very obvious. And because I have
Speaker 4: seen it from the other side too, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: and I just you know, I guess that's why I
Speaker 4: probably for clubs like the Dolphins or the Dragons or
Speaker 4: the Knights, like it's you can see the disparity like
Speaker 4: between the popular clubs.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, none of that
Speaker 1: affected this game. No, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Crenella or just.
Speaker 3: Too they were to them, it was and they deserve
Speaker 3: to be where they are and they've got a very
Speaker 3: good chance of making the Grand Final.
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know. I'm not I'm not, like
Speaker 1: you know, three months ago, Melbourne was my tip. But
Speaker 1: and they've been really unconvincing and they've had a lot
Speaker 1: of injury and stuff. I don't know if he is
Speaker 1: playing or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been named, he's been today.
Speaker 1: Pappenhausen's Back's back at them. Solomon. It won't be so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I mean, it won't be
Speaker 1: easy going down to Melbourne, but it wasn't easy going
Speaker 1: down to Camber either. Yeah, and it wasn't and it
Speaker 1: wasn't easy going to the Rooster's Hand ground either.
Speaker 3: So it was that Shark Park where they won. The
Speaker 3: first one was Apolo. Remember it was blowing up because
Speaker 3: it was only.
Speaker 1: Like there waste that's right, Yeah, but yeah, exactly right
Speaker 1: now I've seen more people at Edwards Park.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right. They went to a shark camera
Speaker 3: the other week, so Melbourne's just another ground. Like what
Speaker 3: Patrick grass? What did you say, Jack Gibson. It's just
Speaker 3: a patch of grass, That's it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, good on them, and like the Raiders,
Speaker 1: they've they've got nothing to be ashamed about that they
Speaker 1: so well. My mate cost Con, he's a he's a
Speaker 1: camera fanatic and and you know, speaking to him, he's
Speaker 1: he's obviously with the loss, but he's he's ecstatic with
Speaker 1: how this season went, so should be. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I mean I tipped him to finished bottom four at
Speaker 1: the start of the year. I did not see I
Speaker 1: did not see this coming the way. You know. It's
Speaker 1: it's a shame that they went out on straight sets,
Speaker 1: But when you can when you compare them to Canterbury, Uh,
Speaker 1: just look at the personnel. I mean, I mean for
Speaker 1: Canterbury's a failure. For Camera, it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're a young team Camera and they're
Speaker 3: just going to get better. I think next year they're
Speaker 3: going to be even better. But the last team that
Speaker 3: came first and got out in two sets with Saint
Speaker 3: George in two thousand and nine, but the following year
Speaker 3: ended up winning the Grand Final. So hopefully Cameron, what're
Speaker 3: they from it? And they come back next year bigger
Speaker 3: and stronger and and have a barnstorming semi final series.
Speaker 3: I think Saintany considered four tries in the whole final series,
Speaker 3: So happen to Camera can do the same. And and
Speaker 3: when the comp next year gathered.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that well. I was there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine exactly, and it.
Speaker 3: Is the week before and then he's better in the semi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then I was at the Grand
Speaker 1: Final too when we got beaten by a team that
Speaker 1: got stripped to the title. But let's not go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not go there. So the next game Bulldogs, Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: forty six to twenty six does not tell the story. Big,
Speaker 1: big crowd at home Bush technically a Bulldog's home game, But.
Speaker 3: What do you mean doesn't tell the story? In what way?
Speaker 3: Do you think? It was a bit too I.
Speaker 1: First thought it made the Dogs look too good. Should
Speaker 1: have been forty six six again Bulldogs home ground. But
Speaker 1: let's not forget Panthers have won four Grand finals there
Speaker 1: in the last four years, so I'm sure they're feeling
Speaker 1: very comfortable there as well. Yeah, the Dogs were horrendous,
Speaker 1: Pani were awesome. Let's not ye, I mean, where do
Speaker 1: we start.
Speaker 3: I mean, they lost Crichton, right, that's a big glass,
Speaker 3: but they replaced him with Burton and Cherry. It's as
Speaker 3: if they had week centers. They had Cherry and Burton
Speaker 3: were pretty good centers.
Speaker 4: He hasn't done much for the last you know, I
Speaker 4: just this, This was an absolute spanking though there was
Speaker 4: almost two hot tricks.
Speaker 1: Just allowed like that. They just Yeah, it's one thing
Speaker 1: to say they had Burton, but he hasn't played there
Speaker 1: all exactly, you know, like changing making all the changes
Speaker 1: that Sialde did. You gotta think about how impacts of
Speaker 1: the defense and not just attack. I understand he's trying
Speaker 1: to improve the attack because that wasn't great, but he
Speaker 1: did it at the price of weakening their defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, right the way that the
Speaker 1: way that the Bulldogs shit the bed and had the
Speaker 1: colossal collapse from being the best team halfway through the
Speaker 1: comp It's the biggest midseason choke I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: the worst part is that everyone from the fans, to
Speaker 1: the media to to us, everyone called it while it
Speaker 1: was happening. The only ones who didn't see the car
Speaker 1: crash coming were Phil Golden, Cameron Currad. I mean, every everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone called it. You know, of all the mistakes that
Speaker 1: that this guy made from from the minute they signed Galvin,
Speaker 1: everything went south. They told and we said it at
Speaker 1: the time on this podcast. They they told their half
Speaker 1: back he wasn't good enough. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: the team that's sitting first in first place. I told
Speaker 1: the half back, you're not good enough and by the way,
Speaker 1: we don't want you next year. And this is a
Speaker 1: guy who the new signing, an eighteen year old kid,
Speaker 1: came onto the field and told the half back, how
Speaker 1: you're going to hooker, who then went to the went
Speaker 1: to the incumbent hooker and said, how you're going to
Speaker 1: the bench right then they told then they told the
Speaker 1: hooker who's been there for the last three years, Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, you're going to we don't want you
Speaker 1: next year. They made all these changes that never worked
Speaker 1: and don't play on the wed and then and then,
Speaker 1: and then for feel Good to come out and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know Galvin's never played half back before, Well, then
Speaker 1: why the fuck would you put him in? Now, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like seriously, I mean, let's talk
Speaker 1: about feel Good for a second, because we don't have
Speaker 1: good years. But there's an interesting stat about No, no,
Speaker 1: he is right, but you know, but there's an interesting
Speaker 1: stat about him. As good as he is at building
Speaker 1: up clubs, a club has not won a premiership that
Speaker 1: he's been at since two thousand and two with Ricky
Speaker 1: Stewart and that was his Stewart's first year as a coach.
Speaker 1: So I think that says something, does you know.
Speaker 3: He builds clubs with corporate sponsorships and systems and stuff.
Speaker 3: He does that well. But yeah, he shouldn't get involved
Speaker 3: in the coaches, you know, just let the coaches.
Speaker 4: Do what they do and should get involved in what
Speaker 4: the coaches are doing and also just pick a career,
Speaker 4: like do you want to be in media?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think I think the ball and
Speaker 1: the best party's cameras are though in the press conference
Speaker 1: saying I wouldn't change a thing. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: team that they lost six out of their last seven
Speaker 1: or seven out of their last eight, something like that,
Speaker 1: and the only win was against the penwith reserve grade
Speaker 1: team who rested sixteen players that day.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy about that too.
Speaker 1: So what I mean, I've not seen a choke like
Speaker 1: this ever before.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Look, Nick, if you look at the
Speaker 3: I think Brett red even brought it up to if
Speaker 3: you look at the Bulldogs for sixteen rounds, they didn't
Speaker 3: play any top eight. They didn't. They played one or
Speaker 3: two hard games. All the rest was they played Titans twice,
Speaker 3: South twice and George twice.
Speaker 1: Like it was pretty They had a couple of floggings
Speaker 1: in that period too. Yeah, yeah, Broncos is one. But
Speaker 1: you can only play who's in front of.
Speaker 3: You exactly exactly, So, mambe, it was a false pretense
Speaker 3: seeing them at the top of the ladder, even though
Speaker 3: they didn't really put anyone strong, but once they started
Speaker 3: playing the strong teams they got found out.
Speaker 1: But it also coincided with the new changes. It did.
Speaker 1: It did because you have to and look, we've played
Speaker 1: team sports, yeah, even though we played at hacker level. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If if someone in the team is popular and they're asked,
Speaker 1: it pisses off the rest of the group mostly so
Speaker 1: it does have a knock on effect exactly that when
Speaker 1: when when you got popular players in the team being
Speaker 1: told see it later, Yeah, it can't have a knock
Speaker 1: on and it did in this is for sure.
Speaker 3: It's done because it looks like he had the system
Speaker 3: in place that was working so well, and just when
Speaker 3: they got to the hard games, he changed it.
Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon, they'll be fine next year. I reckon,
Speaker 1: I'll be top four. I have a set Yeah, I reckon,
Speaker 1: I have a settled side. I reckon Gavin will be
Speaker 1: at six, and I reckon Burn's on the other. I
Speaker 1: don't think, I don't think. I don't think he would be.
Speaker 1: He went there to play six and he was pushed
Speaker 1: out to the centers by a nineteen year old kid.
Speaker 1: Pretty similar thing happened at the Tigers. Jerome lull I
Speaker 1: went there to play seven, ended up being pushed out
Speaker 1: by a rookie and moved moved back to number six
Speaker 1: to accommodate a rookie number seven. It's what's happened here
Speaker 1: at the Bulldogs. And in both cases it flopped. And
Speaker 1: the fans, you know, I live ten years, been here,
Speaker 1: you know where I live.
Speaker 4: And he was talking about them.
Speaker 1: Last night, sorry, not last night, Sunday and Sunday night
Speaker 1: we were standing outside and watching all the Bulldogs fans
Speaker 1: walking crossing the road from the stadium back to the station,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you now they were not happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're mentioning Luckie with it, like roughly. Was
Speaker 3: there a lot of that going on where they're blaming
Speaker 3: the changes or was it just.
Speaker 1: I mean I only spoke to a few of them. Chance,
Speaker 1: I was standing out there with it with a Scotch
Speaker 1: on the rocks.
Speaker 4: From behind them.
Speaker 1: I wasn't heckling anyone. I was just yeah, I have
Speaker 1: my Oels jacket on, you know, And so a couple
Speaker 1: of them were just we're just chanting. I mean, I
Speaker 1: literally live across the road from the station next to
Speaker 1: the stadium. So but the ones that I spoke to
Speaker 1: I mean, and if you asked George. I haven't spoken
Speaker 1: to George since last week, but if you asked George,
Speaker 1: I think he'll hear this. I reckon he'll tell you
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just if it ain't broke, don't
Speaker 1: fix it. And and that Cameron Serreldo made a huge
Speaker 1: mistake this season, huge and he'd better learned from it
Speaker 1: or he's gonna he's gonna go Dwan Hill fast.
Speaker 3: Who's going to get the blame?
Speaker 1: Nick?
Speaker 3: Do you think Gold or Sireldo?
Speaker 1: I think I think I think Saldo will wear it
Speaker 1: because Gus will hide behind the curtain because when when
Speaker 1: it suits Gus, he comes out and takes ownership when
Speaker 1: things go well, When things get stupid, he tends to hide.
Speaker 1: He's tried to propect serraldda boat by saying what he
Speaker 1: did on Monday Night. They really didn't have a choice
Speaker 1: because he was on live television. It's actually not life,
Speaker 1: but he was on he was on TV, so he
Speaker 1: had to answer for it. I get, I kind of
Speaker 1: get the feeling Sireldo is better than what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that he's making all the final decisions.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Gus heavily weighs in. I mean
Speaker 1: every time you see a third or I feel good,
Speaker 1: Patty like you you're a general manager team.
Speaker 4: You look at Benji as well, like all that crap.
Speaker 4: You look at des like if I feel like people
Speaker 4: in management should stay in management. If Gus gets sponsors
Speaker 4: and everything, that's your job. If you want to come
Speaker 4: and coach, you apply.
Speaker 1: For the coaching everything. The rookie mistakes that that we
Speaker 1: have to say Surroundo because he's the head coach. Everything
Speaker 1: that I said before. And this game a sudden death
Speaker 1: finals match, your debuting and your halves combination for the
Speaker 1: first time, and you have put and and they were
Speaker 1: targeted defensively. Galvin was targeted right there. Example talks about
Speaker 1: how much of a great game he had why because
Speaker 1: he put on one try. He was targeted defense heavily.
Speaker 1: And Matt Burton's kicking game was non existent because he
Speaker 1: was out in the centers.
Speaker 3: You know, so exactly the weak one part to accommodate
Speaker 3: Lachland Galvin. Did you see Lockland Galvin's kicks? There's no
Speaker 3: kicking that There's one Passworady through it and went out rookie.
Speaker 1: Rookie mistakes, Like, I mean, Cameron surrounded, he was coming first,
Speaker 1: he was behind the wheel, coming first, and then he
Speaker 1: got two flat tires. Like it's just it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: If you look, sorry, no, if.
Speaker 4: You look at the teams that have that are relatively
Speaker 4: strong on that up, their coaches don't take ship, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like like their old school coaches,
Speaker 4: Like I think there's could have been that better.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Just a great, great example is Jason Rowles,
Speaker 1: a paramotter, Like, yeah, halfway through the season, I was
Speaker 1: I was nervous. At the end of the season, I'm
Speaker 1: really happy he took the job on the provisor that
Speaker 1: I'm in charge, I've got the reins and do it
Speaker 1: my way. The first thing he did was get rid
Speaker 1: of the captain. It was super popular, right, and everyone
Speaker 1: at the start of the season was saying, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's good for the Dragons. Everyone at the start of
Speaker 1: the season was saying, Oh, that's bad, that's bad. Look
Speaker 1: how it turned out. Young he's gonna be a superstar.
Speaker 1: But he cleaned out the rust that was ten or
Speaker 1: twelve players throughout the season because he had he had
Speaker 1: the power to do that. He didn't have a feel
Speaker 1: good saying yes or no whatever. You know, he goes,
Speaker 1: I'll live and die by my choices, my decisions, and
Speaker 1: and this is what I want to do. And as
Speaker 1: a coach, I think that's that's that's the rain that
Speaker 1: you need.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I think if you well, okay, if you think about
Speaker 4: this way, match makes this all makes all his decisions
Speaker 4: bell me. You know Ivan Cleary, how like I couldn't
Speaker 4: tell you any of the other gems besides Frank Pinisi
Speaker 4: for the storm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we all know who gusses, so don't forget
Speaker 1: gets Gus is the same man who fired Ivan Cleary
Speaker 1: from pen right and then tried to block his return.
Speaker 1: Then clear he came back and won four comps in
Speaker 1: a row.
Speaker 3: How do you how that Good left?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Good got moved on and they won four. This is
Speaker 3: their fifth Grand Final.
Speaker 1: In a row.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be their six.
Speaker 1: They've already been in five, but this.
Speaker 3: Position they're playing now for playing for the Grand Final
Speaker 3: is a sixth time or.
Speaker 4: It's our first win.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, man Seraldo. Maybe once Gus if
Speaker 3: he can run into the team the way he wants.
Speaker 3: We might see a different Solder, but at the moment
Speaker 3: you can see the gusses in his ear and.
Speaker 1: You can make an argument for the Bulldogs. But after
Speaker 1: coming out and getting absolutely blown away.
Speaker 3: And they can't take an argument. They extended him to
Speaker 3: until twenty thirty one, both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean, I mean, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you can there's no way to justify all of that,
Speaker 1: any of that. Yeah, yeah, it's just and that's you know,
Speaker 1: and we should be talking more about the game. But
Speaker 1: the reality is that the game him.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just one way traffic.
Speaker 1: It turned out the way it did. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: Penrith were amazing, clearly was amazing to large was they
Speaker 1: were all fantastic, But Canterbury made it so easy for them,
Speaker 1: you know, because the defensive reads. You've got players, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a quarter of the team defending positions they haven't played
Speaker 1: in this year. Yeah again, say my favorite line, how
Speaker 1: did that work out for you? You know, it's just ridiculous,
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Or to accommodate Galvin, all this happened. To
Speaker 1: accommodate Galvin and and the hooker who you know, they
Speaker 1: told Red Money to leave, even though halfway through the season,
Speaker 1: Bill Goil denied that on his own podcast, and then
Speaker 1: a few weeks later Money was gone, which personally I
Speaker 1: take great satisfaction from because I was. I was so
Speaker 1: pissed off when he left the Eels. So it's great
Speaker 1: to see move on and fail happy about that. But
Speaker 1: all of this, you know, Batty Haywood, he missed fifteen
Speaker 1: tackles last week, So just it's just a compilation of
Speaker 1: rookie errors by the coach. And I want to say
Speaker 1: feel good, but we can't prove that. But it's just
Speaker 1: a car it's a car crash from one of the
Speaker 1: feel good stories of the season. Yeah, if I was
Speaker 1: a Bulldogs fan, I'd really be pissed off.
Speaker 3: And if you look at if you look at the
Speaker 3: Warriors last week, sorry sorry, If you look at the
Speaker 3: Warriors last week, they gave Panthers a much of suffer
Speaker 3: run like that had to wait till the seventieth minutes
Speaker 3: or something to sort of get over. But the Danny
Speaker 3: concern with Penrithies have had Saint George, then Warriors, then
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs haven't really had really strong opposition. So the
Speaker 3: Broncos is going to be a real.
Speaker 1: Big but it will be. But let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: of all the all the flat that he copped at
Speaker 1: the time, what a master stroke from Ivan Cleary to
Speaker 1: rest sixteen players? You did? It was because they've looked
Speaker 1: fresh ever since, you know, and all these idiots in
Speaker 1: the media, you know, criticize it always. If you're in
Speaker 1: a position to do it, do it. They actually have
Speaker 1: looked refreshed since since that week off.
Speaker 4: Clever too, because those boys are played well while the
Speaker 4: guys are resting. It gives them a taste. So they're
Speaker 4: going next year with a bit more of a taste.
Speaker 1: Of it, like it also gave the Bulldogs there are
Speaker 1: only winning in the last two months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in this team, like what you said before, Ali,
Speaker 4: but I love McLean My god, he is such a
Speaker 4: good player for Penrith. And I really like Papaali, Like I.
Speaker 3: Think he's yeah, he's been good.
Speaker 4: He's just a workhorse, Like he's.
Speaker 1: Just Liken't he's another one like for me, like how
Speaker 1: do you how do you play in a Grand final
Speaker 1: and then leave to go join the Wooden Spooners. What
Speaker 1: was in that guy's head? He was getting paid. It
Speaker 1: was offered the same to stay. So yeah, it just.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think, you know, and it was nice
Speaker 4: to see because it was obviously he's been injured and stuff,
Speaker 4: but he had his typical you know, he did gay
Speaker 4: you know, one bat kind of game like that was him.
Speaker 4: That That's literally what I saw last year like this
Speaker 4: the beginning.
Speaker 1: Of this year, like it was just they went there.
Speaker 1: They went there to ambush the Dogs. They really did
Speaker 1: did they really did? Yeah, and they did it. They
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope you're really tired though for this.
Speaker 1: Week it was it was it was a great performance
Speaker 1: from all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, someone planted a little seed. I think
Speaker 3: it was on an R three sixty. Someone asked about
Speaker 3: you know there's is there a rivalry between Penrith and
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs and the guy goes, yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 3: Kenniby did take some of their players, you know, they
Speaker 3: did did the dirty guys and Penrith have got receipts
Speaker 3: so they're still pretty dirty. And it looked like one
Speaker 3: of those performances we're going to smash. It's going everything
Speaker 3: that's play the Dogs, you could sell they lift that
Speaker 3: little bit extra just.
Speaker 1: There's there's a few players. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 3: Few Salmon Kickout Burton Crichton. Yeah, there's quite a few.
Speaker 3: In there's a few of the Tigers as well. There's
Speaker 3: three or four five.
Speaker 1: When you look at the players Peneth have lost, Yeah,
Speaker 1: final winning players, you know, it's it's nuts. It's almost
Speaker 1: the whole team.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know the internal competition, like in terms
Speaker 4: of like which New South Wales teams don't like each.
Speaker 1: Other, don't forget who, don't forget who was in the
Speaker 1: box on Sunday you had you had former Penrith employees, Yeah,
Speaker 1: playing against Penrith in surrounder and feel good. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a bit of personal stuff there there is.
Speaker 1: I'd be I would be guarded if I was a
Speaker 1: Dogs fan because if I'm talking, if I put my
Speaker 1: Bulldogs hat on, that's not how our season was supposed
Speaker 1: to go. It shouldn't have gone like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this kid that we signed, he should have been
Speaker 1: put in New south Well's Cup for a month and
Speaker 1: then and then bled into the team if he's part
Speaker 1: of this year's plans at all. There was no need
Speaker 1: to rush him in. It was just it was one
Speaker 1: fuck up after another French and it ended up going
Speaker 1: out in straight sets. And I reckon, they'll be a
Speaker 1: very different team next year. I reckon they'll be a
Speaker 1: lot more settled and a lot better. They'll he'll just
Speaker 1: sign on his halves combo now and they'll train like
Speaker 1: that all preseason. So yeah, and that was never in doubt.
Speaker 1: But he just didn't at the expensive this year.
Speaker 4: You know that they might put Crawdon into fullback. I
Speaker 4: don't know if I read that wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, because they have to find the spot. If Galvin
Speaker 1: plays six, then they need to find a spot for Burden,
Speaker 1: which means they needed to move Pray.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place. But Nik, you said they'll
Speaker 3: be more settled next year. They were settled this year
Speaker 3: up until they were resettled coming it was.
Speaker 1: It was a situation only where you had to take
Speaker 1: a team that was doing really well. A young, a
Speaker 1: young prospect, potential superstar became available and they got the
Speaker 1: chance to sign him, and they did, but then they
Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle that right. The way they
Speaker 1: should have handled it, And again we said it at
Speaker 1: the time was put the kid in reserve grade, give
Speaker 1: him a few weeks. Let him. Let the dust settle
Speaker 1: because there was so much media noise around it. You
Speaker 1: know that you just didn't need to put that pressure
Speaker 1: on yourself. But feel good. He's a master of shooting
Speaker 1: himself in the foot. Put the kid in reserve grade,
Speaker 1: let the noise die down, and we'll bleed him in
Speaker 1: the first grade and we'll figure out. You know, we
Speaker 1: know that six is his best position, but he's only
Speaker 1: a kid, so we'll figure out how he's going to
Speaker 1: fit into this. But before he fits he fits into
Speaker 1: it on the field. He needs to fit into the
Speaker 1: system off the field, right. The team needs to buy
Speaker 1: in and they need to accept him. You know, he
Speaker 1: came there and not through the fall of his own right,
Speaker 1: but he came there and immediately his selection meant that
Speaker 1: other players in the team start to ask themselves, I
Speaker 1: don't like this freaking out that has come in. I
Speaker 1: might lose my job. And that's exactly what happened, you know.
Speaker 1: So the first thing to do is you bring in
Speaker 1: someone like that, You blend him in off the field,
Speaker 1: no threat to anyone. You let him, you know, immerse
Speaker 1: him within the group. You do that part. You don't
Speaker 1: rush it, and they rushed it. They rushed it. He
Speaker 1: may have not even played first grade this year, you know,
Speaker 1: but they It was a colossal fuck up, and it
Speaker 1: seriously was from start to finish. They absolutely shit the
Speaker 1: bed on every level there is and that's the reason
Speaker 1: they went out in straight sets. That's the reason the
Speaker 1: last two months were terrible. Yes, they had a harder draw,
Speaker 1: but they should have been better than what they were.
Speaker 1: Six or seven wins out of seven or eight games.
Speaker 1: That are losses. Sorry, that's just that's not top four standard.
Speaker 3: No, that's not so like choices. Maybe they need more forwards.
Speaker 1: They definitely need more middles and forwards. We all need
Speaker 1: more middles, right, yeah, yeah, but that's that's not why
Speaker 1: they lost. That's not why they got you know, Ivank
Speaker 1: clearly he had a game plan. He looked at the
Speaker 1: lineup and he knew exactly where to put the targets,
Speaker 1: exactly where to put the targets, right, Yeah, he knew
Speaker 1: in those Matt Burton better than Surroundo does. Right, he's
Speaker 1: a great centerp but he hasn't played there all year.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played there for two and a half years. Right,
Speaker 1: Galvin's back at six, but it's his first time in
Speaker 1: a big game, we're going to run out of big
Speaker 1: guys at him, you know, and on the edges they
Speaker 1: tore them the shreds as well. And if surround they
Speaker 1: couldn't foresee that, then maybe he's not the cache that
Speaker 1: will think years exactly, or maybe it's a case of
Speaker 1: feel good pulling the strings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: We don't know totally. He's totally under the thumb, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be good. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a great position to be in to have a
Speaker 1: feel good as as like in a mentoring role or whatever.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget he hasn't coached in over twenty years.
Speaker 1: You know, the game's changed the lot he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the for me, he's the best footy brain I've seen,
Speaker 1: and you know, but but that doesn't necessarily translate to
Speaker 1: coaching anymore. He just hasn't done it for that long.
Speaker 4: He's like every single client that i'll you know, that
Speaker 4: I meet with, and you know, they've got a really
Speaker 4: old school mentality and they dislike they've got He's inflexible
Speaker 4: in the way that he thinks, right, but he's super
Speaker 4: transactional or very much outcome focused. There's probably better coaches
Speaker 4: out there to learn from, like and and those clients.
Speaker 4: I tend to not recruit for if because it shows
Speaker 4: me that they can't grow like their mindset like.
Speaker 1: For me, it's not even coaching, it's management. So let's
Speaker 1: take the football out of it for a second. Right,
Speaker 1: let's take the footy out of it for a You're
Speaker 1: you're a master recruiter. You know this better than any
Speaker 1: of us. You taught me this right when you're bringing
Speaker 1: someone in to your group. I remember I said to
Speaker 1: you when I whenever I hire someone, I always look
Speaker 1: for someone who's going to fit into the team culture
Speaker 1: that we have, because we have a good one. And
Speaker 1: you taught me how about looking for someone who's going
Speaker 1: to add to the culture. Yeah, Well in this case
Speaker 1: they didn't either. Yeah right, And it's not the kid's fault.
Speaker 1: It came with so much media noise that just that
Speaker 1: fact alone suggests to me I need to make the
Speaker 1: noise go away. So we've brought him in. I'm going
Speaker 1: to say to the coach, listen, stick in reserve grade,
Speaker 1: Let the dust settle, let the noise go, Let all
Speaker 1: the hoopla bullshit disappear. No, what do we do. Let's
Speaker 1: throw him under the spotlight, shake the whole team up,
Speaker 1: pisce everyone off and create more headlines, more pressure. Right,
Speaker 1: all the pressures on him at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and all of it backfired.
Speaker 4: All of it well, And I think too, like one,
Speaker 4: you know, like I would never recruit for someone like us,
Speaker 4: Like that's just the opposite to what And even if
Speaker 4: Seraldo was great, I always tend to look at the
Speaker 4: next level up as well. But if I had to
Speaker 4: recruit for that type of club, like if and I
Speaker 4: Teken Closer as the player manager here, perhaps, but I
Speaker 4: would be coaching, you know, I'd be like, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: do your interviews with you know, Serroudo and Gus, but
Speaker 4: I probably have more Serroualdo in the interviews. You organize
Speaker 4: like you know, team catch up for the guys to
Speaker 4: get along, and you can still obviously the way it
Speaker 4: was done, it's that's quite bad in the way it
Speaker 4: was very reactive. But there's always a way to pull
Speaker 4: it back to because it's all around like connection and asking.
Speaker 4: Whereas I feel like what I see with the dogs,
Speaker 4: it's very there's no leadership.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, if you sign Andrew Johns, right,
Speaker 1: or if you sign El Laia, I know I'm going
Speaker 1: back in time here, you rush him into your team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you sign an eighteen year old kid, any second year,
Speaker 1: first grade, you know, you know, you don't make him
Speaker 1: the focal point of the entire operation.
Speaker 3: A sixteen year old has seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know the guy who brought bradd Like,
Speaker 1: you have this kid.
Speaker 4: That's come in who probably for whatever reason whatever we
Speaker 4: want to call it, he's left. He's in there by
Speaker 4: the you know, the graces of gust God Gould, right.
Speaker 4: And then you also have guys have lost their jobs
Speaker 4: so they're getting moved out who have actually done the
Speaker 4: time with.
Speaker 1: The doggies and done the job. And then every time.
Speaker 4: Galvin kicks a ball, the media is just flipping out.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing on top of all that. Look
Speaker 1: at the baggage he came with, all of that garbage
Speaker 1: about leaving the Tigers, you know, all of that, all
Speaker 1: of that like you need to make the noise go away,
Speaker 1: Like any good operator in that in that environment knows
Speaker 1: you need to make the noise go away. They opened
Speaker 1: the door and invited it all in.
Speaker 4: But you can tell that with the Dogs players, they're
Speaker 4: being told to say that Lachlan is a good guy,
Speaker 4: that you can see that it's not well.
Speaker 1: I know personally that from from a few insiders that
Speaker 1: a portion of the group was unhappy because they're just
Speaker 1: don't like no one No one likes seeing an untested
Speaker 1: rookie come in and be given that much leeway. They
Speaker 1: just don't.
Speaker 4: The thing is too like you know you have like
Speaker 4: for example, Ship a psychy, got drunks, hungover, came to
Speaker 4: training and regardless of however people view like how Man's treated,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But Madge is like, we probably need
Speaker 4: him this weekend, but you're at and even he Reese
Speaker 4: Falsch said it last week, He's like, god, I hope
Speaker 4: we have a few days off because Madge has been
Speaker 4: riding us. But but he sits a tone.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the GM for the point the standard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it doesn't matter. Ship is psychy. We needed
Speaker 4: him for the game, like there's times you know we
Speaker 4: needed other people, but it's almost like, well, if you
Speaker 4: shop the bed, it's on you. And if I got
Speaker 4: asked by the media, I'm going to be honest, like
Speaker 4: Gus is doing all this cloak and daggers, and it's
Speaker 4: funny because everyone sees.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone says through it, says through it, and
Speaker 1: and now that both of them are still bullshitting, they're
Speaker 1: sitting down saying, you know what, we fucked up. Yay,
Speaker 1: let's let's look at how we're going to plan this
Speaker 1: moving forward. But no, if of the media they come
Speaker 1: out and say we wouldn't change anything, well, you know
Speaker 1: what you've lost for the last two months, So if
Speaker 1: you wouldn't change anything, you're.
Speaker 4: A full Yeah, it's yeah, but we can talk about
Speaker 4: this time.
Speaker 1: I know we're draggon. How about how about we move
Speaker 1: on to this weekend? Anything else on that game you
Speaker 1: guys want to say? Just pens were very good and
Speaker 1: they yeah, there were so no Saturday game to the
Speaker 1: next few, Yeah, exactly. Brown Night Storm Sharks interesting. Interesting
Speaker 1: one here. I'm leaning on the Storm, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got pat back and they've got I.
Speaker 1: Think I think the biggest they've got Bellamy Belly. You
Speaker 1: know he'll come up with something. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Sharks need to be perfect. I think I think if
Speaker 1: they are, they'll win. But I think I need to
Speaker 1: be to win.
Speaker 4: Happenings, to be perfect. Don't forget dream Hees came back
Speaker 4: and then he injured himself in a different area of
Speaker 4: his body.
Speaker 1: You can it's his risk of his hand, right. I
Speaker 1: know this sounds ridiculous, but you you know I'm not
Speaker 1: a footy player. But you can play with a broken
Speaker 1: hand right inbreaks. But I'm serious. Like in boxing, you
Speaker 1: can break your hand during a fight and you need
Speaker 1: you need about two rounds for it to numb up,
Speaker 1: and then you can keep going. You won't feel the
Speaker 1: pain till later that night. Now what are you laughing for?
Speaker 1: I'm serious. You can't. No, you can't. Right, with a
Speaker 1: breaken hand, you can't. But I think they're saying that
Speaker 1: favoring his shoulder, which is not Yeah, that's what caused
Speaker 1: the hand or the wrist. So if the problem is
Speaker 1: his shoulder, save The bottom line is if I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm Craig, if it's given, If Hughes takes the field,
Speaker 1: my game plan is simple, get the biggest, hardest men
Speaker 1: in the team to run straight at Dream Hughes because
Speaker 1: I know his shoulders not right. Yeah, he might be
Speaker 1: able to cover the hand or wrist or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I know his shoulders for I know, well you
Speaker 1: can strap that up. I know his shoulders not right,
Speaker 1: So I'll be sending heavy traffic at him. So and
Speaker 1: Bellamy knows that. So I just know I'm doubtful that
Speaker 1: you'll play.
Speaker 4: To be honest, I just think I'm just thinking the
Speaker 4: Sharks just.
Speaker 1: I don't think Hughes will play.
Speaker 3: He's too much of a named his name seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but I'm just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: question it.
Speaker 3: Don't you think it could be a similar thing to
Speaker 3: Cooper Kronk when he was named for the Roosters in
Speaker 3: the Grand Final, who had a similar injury. It puts
Speaker 3: it makes the Sharks change their focus. Now they're going
Speaker 3: to go, Okay, we're going to run a director. Yeah
Speaker 3: they've been playing well without this thing now, but now
Speaker 3: they've got this thing with change everything.
Speaker 1: There's one one on that I heard Cooper Kronk talking
Speaker 1: about that yesterday. It was a snippet from his podcast
Speaker 1: with Maddie John's where he was talking about that that
Speaker 1: very same comparison, and what he said was, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember the I know he had a shoulder problem.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the date or something like that. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the details. But Kronk said, the difference with
Speaker 1: me was that no one knew what the actual problem
Speaker 1: was because we sold it. We sold a different message. Right,
Speaker 1: He's if they knew the details of my injury, I
Speaker 1: would have been targeted a lot more, Okay, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't and I wouldn't have withstood it. The problem with
Speaker 1: dream here is that everyone knows what it is. So
Speaker 1: if he's on that field, he's targeting.
Speaker 4: Was his recent injury? What was the one that he
Speaker 4: came back from.
Speaker 1: Shoulder?
Speaker 4: It was shoulder.
Speaker 1: I thought it was wrist. No, No, the shoulder was
Speaker 1: the original injury. They're saying that he they're saying that
Speaker 1: he breaks his wrist because he was he was trying
Speaker 1: to compensate for his shoulder. So you know, you know
Speaker 1: he's weak. Right when I saw Pap.
Speaker 4: Play last he was so crap like, and you and
Speaker 4: Pap has been a big like a lot of their
Speaker 4: successes hinged on Pap being on' but.
Speaker 1: You know he will be in the big games, right,
Speaker 1: So you haven't seen him play the final yet this
Speaker 1: year You've.
Speaker 4: Been saying it's like you know. Oh, yeah, this has
Speaker 4: been crazy. I don't know. I just yeah, well.
Speaker 1: My my my instinct tells me Melbourne, but everything else
Speaker 1: tells me the Sharks. Yeah, it's a hard line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in Melbourne as well. That makes it lean
Speaker 3: towards Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to both games. I can't tell you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is going to be one of those grinding games.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be like a fourteen twelve
Speaker 3: full time or something in the automatum, whereas the other
Speaker 3: one could be like thirty six thirty four. That's a
Speaker 3: I'm worried about.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about tenure on Sunday because
Speaker 1: it could be a wine glass against the wall situation.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not. I'd like to see Brisbane win it,
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be funny if Sharks win and Penrith win.
Speaker 3: That's two teams from the bottom half of the eight
Speaker 3: that go in the Grand Final. It's team six and
Speaker 3: seven and they could win for the first time, but
Speaker 3: the first time to win a Grand Final from positions.
Speaker 4: Sharks Broncos just change it up.
Speaker 1: So seeing some more papers of all these teams, I'd
Speaker 1: like the Broncos to win for two reasons. No, I'm serious.
Speaker 1: I felt for him two years ago obviously with what
Speaker 1: because they had it one and I really want to
Speaker 1: see them win it without Wayn Bennett. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I really want to see them win one without Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 1: And I reckon I reckon Madge for the ship that
Speaker 1: he went through at the Tigers. And and this isn't
Speaker 1: about bashing the Tigers, but he had I hit a
Speaker 1: horrible time there, as has every coach for the last
Speaker 1: fifteen years, which says more about the club that does
Speaker 1: about the coach. I would love to see Madge rebound
Speaker 1: his first club job since getting sacked from the Tigers,
Speaker 1: winning the premiership in his first season after winning the
Speaker 1: Origin in one season. I would love to see that
Speaker 1: for match. I really would.
Speaker 4: If I'm fully prepared for everyone to be like it's
Speaker 4: because you had the new South Wales Origin coach, like
Speaker 4: you know, coaching guys, I'll take it. It's fine, you know,
Speaker 4: It's funny. I went I went to buy tickets today
Speaker 4: because they had the release at ten o'clock. They were
Speaker 4: sold out in five minutes, so I think I had
Speaker 4: a thousand people.
Speaker 1: Ahead of me in the I was going to say,
Speaker 1: you're going to come, come with your Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well I couldn't get any there was because they'll do
Speaker 4: they'll do staggered releases. But I sat there because I
Speaker 4: was sitting on for Corey's sister, Like I didn't think
Speaker 4: I was going to take the boys, but she was
Speaker 4: at work and she got one in the end. Anyway,
Speaker 4: but a thousand people in the queue before me went
Speaker 4: down and I literally I hit every single one individual
Speaker 4: seats five minutes have sold out.
Speaker 1: It's like ten yeah something. When I I like fan,
Speaker 1: i'd like to see him. You know, when you look
Speaker 1: at all these you know him and Bellamy are the
Speaker 1: two most emotional coaches, you know on game day and
Speaker 1: in the box. But but you know what, he's never
Speaker 1: liked that away from like in press conferences and all
Speaker 1: that magic. He's a gentleman.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And celebration last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite celebration you had was against Paramatta when
Speaker 1: it was reversed a minute later. That was pretty funny. Sorry,
Speaker 1: But now I really like him and and I've always
Speaker 1: liked the Broncos anyway, So when I look at these
Speaker 1: four teams, I think it's time for a change. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So let's move on to the Bronc.
Speaker 3: For this game here. I was just going to say
Speaker 3: that I've got a good feeling the Sharks might do
Speaker 3: this one because really has been playing out of his
Speaker 3: skin and Harry Grant's a good hooker, but they've got
Speaker 3: that I reckon the hook is match, I think for
Speaker 3: no Blake, if he has one of his barm storming games,
Speaker 3: I think that's what's going to tip him over. Blake
Speaker 3: and and Brayley are are the two keyns. But it
Speaker 3: don't be surprised if she didn't upset him, man, I'll
Speaker 3: be surprised.
Speaker 1: Never never under estimated wounded Melbourne.
Speaker 3: Exactly and they beat pleaded Bulldogs team. Don't forget the
Speaker 3: Bulldogs had all those injuries that happened early in the
Speaker 3: game and they just got through. So the Sharks are
Speaker 3: more impressive in the depleted too. Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: Pappen House and they used no Solomon. You know that
Speaker 1: that was depleted too. Yeah, but the Sharks with you.
Speaker 1: The Sharks look fresh and.
Speaker 3: They got forty points against him in one game in
Speaker 3: one half against the Roosters the storm, so they're starting
Speaker 3: to play a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. My
Speaker 3: laptops running dead. Okay, it's gonna te alright, let's go
Speaker 3: to the next one.
Speaker 1: All right, Brost Panthers, Brocast Panthers. Tenure Reynolds is named right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I reckon the Broncos will do it. I don't know
Speaker 1: that Penis can reproduce that performance, and it certainly won't
Speaker 1: be It certainly won't be as weak as defense as
Speaker 1: it was last week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, look, and I try and look at
Speaker 4: it really impassively, but the boys have had an extra
Speaker 4: week's race. You've got Reynolds back, which brings extra just
Speaker 4: an extra vibe like we've got obviously, you know, because
Speaker 4: I was explaining to the boys that Kragan was out
Speaker 4: and Walter's is out, and Many's like, and it's so good,
Speaker 4: you know, money he remembers every game. He's like, how
Speaker 4: come all the other players aren't out that have done
Speaker 4: the same thing. And I was like, it's fine, I totally,
Speaker 4: but but it's not as like I'm really happy that
Speaker 4: Willison's in. Yes, he's wonderful, and I think Manny said,
Speaker 4: the whole lineup looks great. He was like giggling at it,
Speaker 4: but he said the only thing is Ricky against Martin.
Speaker 4: But I was, like, I said, like Jordan Ricky, you
Speaker 4: know he's he just is kind of.
Speaker 1: Like someone that just Liam Martin is carrying some form
Speaker 1: of injury than I know.
Speaker 4: I was trying to figure it out what it was
Speaker 4: that's injury, but he.
Speaker 1: Set himself after the game he was just winded, and
Speaker 1: now I forget who it was. The next player in
Speaker 1: the media said he wasn't just winded because halfway up
Speaker 1: the tunnel he crashed down. You don't do that. You
Speaker 1: don't do that half way up the tunnel when you're winded.
Speaker 1: But you know, Liam Martin is the kind of guy
Speaker 1: who could play injured too well. I like that man is.
Speaker 4: Back and Willison Heatherington, he kind of just ships about
Speaker 4: a bit under pressure. So I would prefer it if
Speaker 4: they sent ma'm and Wilson out first because Wilison's going
Speaker 4: to be fresh, like he is absolutely brilliant. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm so pumped for this game. I like to see
Speaker 4: I know what Arthur's has done to piss match off.
Speaker 4: I know we have lots of talent, but I haven't
Speaker 4: seen nothing to play in quite some time, so I'd
Speaker 4: like to see him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, you know they're succeeding,
Speaker 1: they're winning. Yeah, last week was last week was very
Speaker 1: close and a lot of luck, but a lot of
Speaker 1: perseverance as well. But they did it. You know they
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 3: It's paying Haus one hundred percent because I know he.
Speaker 4: Was a year or not all. Yeah, but he They
Speaker 4: rest him enough and there's enough support when he does.
Speaker 1: Go and rest. Tenure. You'll be too young to remember this,
Speaker 1: but you remember Terry Lamb's last two years he never trained.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: He only played. Yeah, he only played. I think it
Speaker 1: was ninety four ninety five if I'm not right or thereabouts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's an don't think Tenure. You don't remember the
Speaker 1: famous Terry Lamb field goal. Remember that before we had
Speaker 1: digital scoreboards. Tan The Bulldogs were losing twelve to ten
Speaker 1: at Bellmore and Terry in the dying seconds, Terry Lamb
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. They lost twelve eleven. He thought
Speaker 1: it was twelve or oh. Yeah, his last couple of years,
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't train and he didn't need to either. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think, like with Haas, I think it's you know,
Speaker 4: he's he needs to just have a lie down. But
Speaker 4: he's just so, he's just brilliant, and like I said,
Speaker 4: there's enough people around him that if he has a
Speaker 4: bit of a rest, Reynolds is all good. But we
Speaker 4: have people that are there like just in case, like
Speaker 4: we have a very good like reserve team.
Speaker 1: This is the problem for me, and I know, I know,
Speaker 1: like for example, George loves the international game and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, in two weeks time, all these players need
Speaker 1: to rest. The last thing they needed to be getting
Speaker 1: on a plane and going you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: give me the summer off, you know, or at least
Speaker 1: until November.
Speaker 4: Oh guys, what is that absolutely broken?
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of them do. It's only the ones that
Speaker 3: get selected. But yeah, it's going to be interesting game.
Speaker 4: Do you think with this game?
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to be unpopular. I'm going
Speaker 3: to be unpopular here because the Raiders were up twenty
Speaker 3: eight twelve and should have won that game. So if
Speaker 3: the Raiders can put twenty eight points on the Broncos,
Speaker 3: I think Penrith can put more Penrith. If Penrith are
Speaker 3: leading twenty eight twelve, they don't lose that game.
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean, if Penrith reproduced that performance,
Speaker 1: that's it. I think they're unbetable. You don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they can. You know, you won't. I
Speaker 1: expressed it in different terminology yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the sixth year in a row. They're
Speaker 3: in this position, sixth year, and they've won every the
Speaker 3: previous five. So Pendrith got a lot of experience in
Speaker 3: this this team. They're looking fresh. That's one thing that
Speaker 3: impressed me as well about Panthers. They look fresh. Here's
Speaker 3: one thing.
Speaker 1: And tell me if I'm wrong, because this is just
Speaker 1: how I look at it, because everyone's saying what you
Speaker 1: just said. This is the sixth year, This is the
Speaker 1: six year in their position, and they have a lot
Speaker 1: of experience. Right, but it actually but actually don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of the team hasn't been in this position.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of the team, you know,
Speaker 1: most of the last sea years, the team has been
Speaker 1: completely flipped almost. Yeah, there's a good there's a good
Speaker 1: three four five players who haven't been in this situation.
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, But I don't like the Bulldogs. Think they
Speaker 3: haven't changed their spine. They've got they have Edwards and
Speaker 3: the other book what's his name? Kenny Kenny, and Tulagi
Speaker 3: is the only new one in the spine, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, he's taken new white spot. I think
Speaker 3: it's done a great job. It was fantastic last week
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: So And what's the difference between Ivan Clear and Cameron
Speaker 1: Seraldo is that Ivan clearly signed to Lagi last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, And you remember the first month of the COMMP
Speaker 1: the first six weeks. Yeah, he didn't even play exactly.
Speaker 1: He didn't rush him in, right, He got him, He
Speaker 1: got him immersed in the group, brought him in and
Speaker 1: started to slowly bleed him in and look at how he's.
Speaker 3: Turning out exactly, And he said it.
Speaker 1: He got asked, there's a lesson for Serado exactly.
Speaker 3: He got us the first couple of weeks. I think
Speaker 3: we're about to Laggi and he said, he's not ready
Speaker 3: it we just haven't got him ready yet. It was
Speaker 3: still working on him, and he just knew when the
Speaker 3: right time was to bring him in.
Speaker 1: And all of us were saying, what do you mean
Speaker 1: he's not ready exactly, but he knew, but he did think.
Speaker 4: I think Broncos have beaten like three pretty decent teams
Speaker 4: and all right, they have and they've had an extra
Speaker 4: week fresh they're playing at.
Speaker 1: Sun Corp like that's an extra man on the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Reynolds is back and you've got like it's
Speaker 4: going to be this is saying this game.
Speaker 1: But you know Reynolds is back after a decent break
Speaker 1: as well, like he's it's never easy to return in
Speaker 1: a game of this magnitude when you've been off a
Speaker 1: few weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not too worried about Reynolds. I mean, well,
Speaker 4: she did just have his head in the game. That's it.
Speaker 1: That guy, after what he did in your last game.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything to worry about.
Speaker 4: Well, I just can't, you know, have a conversation.
Speaker 3: With I can't understand this the team list actually to
Speaker 3: be honest with the Broncos because what they should have
Speaker 3: done and this is what would have changed me. With Broncos.
Speaker 3: You got what's his name, Ben Hunt, who's one of
Speaker 3: the best hookers in the game. He is not underniably
Speaker 3: top three hooker and you're playing him at six and
Speaker 3: you put Corey pay there when you've got Isram on
Speaker 3: the bench. Isra Mam should have been six. Reynold should
Speaker 3: have been seven gun Harps who have played Grand Final together,
Speaker 3: and then you should have had Ben Hunt, who would
Speaker 3: have just made that halves combination even stronger. But he's
Speaker 3: put isra Man on the bench and he's put Reynolds
Speaker 3: ben Hunt at six. I think that's changed. He's got to.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of the game here.
Speaker 1: I really do, I really do you You got you
Speaker 1: got so on Cobo on the extended bench as well,
Speaker 1: so he's not popular.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Cobbo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that these are that's the team
Speaker 1: that are running on the shield. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think so either, because obviously it's a little
Speaker 4: bit of back and forth player because you know, with
Speaker 4: Ethan strange thing, I was like, that's just another you know,
Speaker 4: Rocky Stuart thing. But I was like, oh no, it's
Speaker 4: actually sick. I think that they'll maybe change it up
Speaker 4: like last minute, which clearly might anticipate.
Speaker 1: That's that's again. I don't know what you it was
Speaker 1: the teamless Tuesday. It started because of all these games
Speaker 1: being played by coaches changing their squads and changing their
Speaker 1: team list on game day. So so then I all said,
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck this. We want the team list
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and that's who you can play with that
Speaker 1: but that's who you're running into the weekend with because
Speaker 1: on game day they make five changes, you know, which
Speaker 1: which I don't have a problem with at the end
Speaker 1: of the day because you put it out who you
Speaker 1: put out, you know. But that's how the team this
Speaker 1: Tuesday things started. I don't know if it was ten,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Still they can still change it, provided what you guys
Speaker 4: were saying before that they're on the list. They can
Speaker 4: just flip it around.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think I think there's exceptions for
Speaker 1: if exceptions you know. Yeah, I mean you saw it.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but you saw it in State
Speaker 1: of Origin last year, when when you've got your squad
Speaker 1: of twenty two or whatever, someone continued and they bring
Speaker 1: in someone else. Yeah, well, you picked the squad of
Speaker 1: twenty two. You should only be allowed to select from
Speaker 1: that group.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think there's an exception here
Speaker 1: for extenuating circumstances. But I don't know that's the team
Speaker 1: that will run out. But anyway, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go on a limit tip the Broncos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but gee, you know, just like Melbourne, I can't underestimate
Speaker 1: pet because I have all years and what Ivan Cleary
Speaker 1: has done with that team this year, I reckon it's
Speaker 1: been the most impressive because because it's the first season
Speaker 1: and you know they haven't won it yet, but it's
Speaker 1: the first season where he had to lift them off
Speaker 1: the canvas. Yeah, halfway through the season. How do you
Speaker 1: do that? How do you build belief enough for them
Speaker 1: to do what they've done to get to this point
Speaker 1: and as convincingly of that as they have. If halfway
Speaker 1: through the season you told me they were going to
Speaker 1: eliminate the Bulldogs, they are laughed in your face. Yeah
Speaker 1: you could. You can put that down to the only
Speaker 1: Penrith with Cameron Seraldo as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at the forward pack of Penrith,
Speaker 3: they've got Liota, Kenny Smith, Sorenson Martin Yo. It's still
Speaker 3: played last year, didn't they And then they got going
Speaker 3: on the bench exactly, so they're all from last year
Speaker 3: except for the fish Fisher Harris has gone and Linday
Speaker 3: Smith's now playing a dominant role. But apart from that,
Speaker 3: the back Roads the same Sorenson Martin.
Speaker 1: So now you're right, You're right.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good side. That's it's very solid. I'm
Speaker 3: worried about pain Huss.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Jenkins was a bit unlucky to
Speaker 1: miss out, but then al did what he did, he did. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: My biggest worries pain Huss. If he's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be all right because he's had a
Speaker 1: week off as well. They'll need him up and if
Speaker 1: they're ahead, if they're ahead, he'll pull him off.
Speaker 4: I think Broncos. I think Broncos all win, but also
Speaker 4: I would not be upset if they don't, purely because
Speaker 4: they have had such an insane season, like we've had
Speaker 4: so much crap going about in the media. We've you know,
Speaker 4: lost Carbo and MAM's comeback. It's people doing, you know,
Speaker 4: like there's been so much and for them to adapt
Speaker 4: to a new coach and to get to this point,
Speaker 4: like I'm so.
Speaker 1: Happy with me, you know, I feel that way about
Speaker 1: my club and we didn't get to it. Yeah you so.
Speaker 1: So as a Broncast fan, absolute.
Speaker 3: Their first year with Madge, they getting used to his methods.
Speaker 3: Now so it's been a great year for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: For sure, is a hard as I like, he's a
Speaker 1: hard ass as.
Speaker 4: Long as we've been in origent. I'm pretty heppy anyway,
Speaker 4: but for them to get I always just want one
Speaker 4: Queensland team to be in tough for.
Speaker 1: Like we all, I mean, did everyone watch surely everyone
Speaker 1: watched Tales from Tigertown. That's why we got to see
Speaker 1: what Magor is like. And like, man, I hate to
Speaker 1: be in that change room. I think I think it
Speaker 1: was renamed Fails from Tigertown.
Speaker 4: But you guys asked me last year, is that what
Speaker 4: they need? Is that what they need? And I was
Speaker 4: like yeah, because Walters is too soft? And then look
Speaker 4: what's happened. They totally needed a.
Speaker 1: Really you know, yeah, I'll take it easy waters to
Speaker 1: still took him to a Grand Final. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: and he got sacked a year later. Let's not let's
Speaker 1: not count the chickens just yet. But he's done a
Speaker 1: great job and like I said, I'd love to see
Speaker 1: him win it. I really would. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and George will hear this, And with all respect
Speaker 1: to George, I completely disagree with him that he actually
Speaker 1: blames Kevin Waters for for Brisbane losing that last thirteen
Speaker 1: minutes or whatever. I don't I don't understand how the
Speaker 1: coaching he need to do that we were ready like that.
Speaker 1: There's just too many on field errors. But that that
Speaker 1: wasn't a coaching thing. Yeah, that was individual errors made
Speaker 1: on the field exactly that you know two.
Speaker 4: Years ago Broncos went ready like I don't know where
Speaker 4: everyone was searching. I didn't think they were going to win.
Speaker 1: There were thirteen minutes away from me. It was in
Speaker 1: the bag, I know.
Speaker 4: But like they under pressure, Like Panthers are used to
Speaker 4: playing under pressure, Broncos now are used to playing under pressure.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like Adam Reynolds was the first one
Speaker 1: to kick started when he when he kicked the line
Speaker 1: drop out on the fall because he was trying to
Speaker 1: find touch.
Speaker 4: The guys just need to not get into fights.
Speaker 1: Oh, that hasn't been a fight in ten years in
Speaker 1: the NRL, So don't worry. It's all handbased at ten paces.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carrigan is a big loss for you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been he's been on and off though.
Speaker 3: Still he's inspirational. It was your captain last week.
Speaker 4: He's been on and off, not that you guys like it,
Speaker 4: but he was great when he didn't have his girlfriend
Speaker 4: and he got back with her and then you know
Speaker 4: behind every day. I'm purely saying that there is a
Speaker 4: noticeable difference because obviously we get more Brisbane stuff here
Speaker 4: and I have been privy to probably more another team
Speaker 4: that I've mentioned before, seeing what the wives are like
Speaker 4: on game day to the players. It does create a
Speaker 4: big impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but yeah, no, be a cracking game, did you?
Speaker 4: I know that you guys aren't really before you do
Speaker 4: Super League idea quickly just talk about girls. I can't
Speaker 4: really watch it. Last week, Wells is the first, Broncos
Speaker 4: a second, Butsas are playing the Sharks on Saturday in
Speaker 4: Gosford and then Broncos are playing just before the Broncos
Speaker 4: Penrith game in Suncourt. So I feel like what we're
Speaker 4: going to see is Roos's Broncos in the final. But
Speaker 4: the girls. It's actually been really good to watch the girls.
Speaker 1: More this year.
Speaker 4: But isn't normal for them to play in Gosford?
Speaker 1: Is it? I don't know that stadium, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a nice stadium, but I have seen them, but
Speaker 3: I think it used.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't get used much, but it is a really
Speaker 3: nice stadium.
Speaker 1: I remember when it was being built. I was I
Speaker 1: was a form worker. We're working on Henry Perry Drive.
Speaker 1: We're building those units, so I was driving past it
Speaker 1: every day while it was being built. It's in such
Speaker 1: a beautiful spot opposite the water across the road. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't it's a it's a it's a great small
Speaker 1: stadium used to Shark's home ground for dead put it
Speaker 1: that way. Not not much difference in size, but it
Speaker 1: just doesn't get used. So it's a real shame, you know.
Speaker 1: If I've always said, if we're going to add a
Speaker 1: lot of team, it should be the Central Coast Bears.
Speaker 1: How they went to Perth, I don't know, but Central Coasts,
Speaker 1: as in New South Wales Central Coast has always been
Speaker 1: a huge breeding ground with youngsters for the NRL.
Speaker 4: And it's our version of where the epswitch are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and it should have been our dolphins,
Speaker 1: I reckon. Yeah, great little ground.
Speaker 4: Though, I feel like, you know, unless because the Knights
Speaker 4: are actually really good, unless say they're not Roncos off
Speaker 4: their perch, but that will be really good. So that's
Speaker 4: it's a Saturday and then it's a Sunday, so it'll
Speaker 4: be good to see how the girls go. And they've
Speaker 4: absolutely killed it this year too, so yeah games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to talk a bit about Host Cup
Speaker 3: Host Plus Cup, which is the Queensline Cup. We've got
Speaker 3: the Grand Final this week. The Burly Bears beat the
Speaker 3: Dolphins eighteen sixteen and the Devils beat the Seagulls eighteen sixteen,
Speaker 3: both from the same score, so they play in the
Speaker 3: Grand Final next week Bears versus the Devils. It's on
Speaker 3: Saturday at four pm on KO if you want to
Speaker 3: watch it. On the other side, we had the Warriors
Speaker 3: beating the Parameter Eels two fourteen to get through and
Speaker 3: the Grand Final for that Knock on Effect Cup will
Speaker 3: be the Dragons and the Warriors. That's on Sunday three fifteen. Colmbank.
Speaker 1: It is exciting. Yeah, good to see. You could get
Speaker 1: some chocolates this year.
Speaker 3: We might mate, we might Lochlan Neelius might win a
Speaker 3: Grand final for us.
Speaker 1: Mate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the future Greek Immortal.
Speaker 1: Apparently you play. Kurtie Ramsey has been told he's not
Speaker 1: wanted and we're one of the clubs that are interested.
Speaker 3: Well, we've we've offered him a train and trial. We're
Speaker 3: not offering him a full contract. The guys still look.
Speaker 3: He's killing it in the reserves, but he's still very
Speaker 3: thin and it's a pretty serious illness what he's got.
Speaker 3: So's he's got that stuff similar to what George's got,
Speaker 3: the gut issue. He's been hospitals. That's a lot of weight.
Speaker 3: He can't put on any weight or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But he seems to be playing well.
Speaker 1: So apparently we are interested in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, roosters apparently to the rooster's thing. But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I hope we keep him because we're stuck buy him
Speaker 3: for the last few years. See how the hands out
Speaker 3: with this cup thing, the host Cup?
Speaker 4: The winners do they ever play? So Dragons win and
Speaker 4: then barely Bears are going to win.
Speaker 3: They playing the Grand Final. They play against each other,
Speaker 3: that's on the Grand final day. It's always a curtain racer.
Speaker 3: It's always before I think it's that game, then the
Speaker 3: women's game, and then it's the Grand Final, so all
Speaker 3: the other way around. But they do play each other. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's it's always the case.
Speaker 4: What do you think do you think might get across?
Speaker 3: I hope So it would be great for Willie Tellow.
Speaker 3: He's our coach. He's he's been fantastic at the Dragons.
Speaker 3: He's I think he took the Jersey Fleet to a
Speaker 3: Grand Final. He's gone in all the grades and he's
Speaker 3: succeeded everywhere. He's gone so good. Or will he tell
Speaker 3: out the Extrara Bulldogs center, they're doing great job.
Speaker 1: Was Goos was part of their premiership team? Wasn't he? Four?
Speaker 3: Was he the Bulldogs team?
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tommy Taller played some only his son he
Speaker 3: played for the.
Speaker 1: Tigers war didn't he? I think? So yeah? Will you
Speaker 1: tell out that Jack Bargain era?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seems like yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 3: It should be interesting to see those couple of grand
Speaker 3: finals on the weekend, which is good bit of extra
Speaker 3: footy for George. George will be happy it's more footy
Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, let's get the Super League. So it
Speaker 3: was the last round for the Super League. We had
Speaker 3: the whole Kingston Rovers twenty eight beating Sam's team the
Speaker 3: Warrington Wolves twenty twenty two. Catalan Dragon's twenty six. Saint
Speaker 3: Helen's which is our team twenty six beat the Castleford
Speaker 3: Tigers twenty four. Cold Field scored two tries in that game.
Speaker 3: They're diving. He didn't dive this time.
Speaker 1: He actually scored that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look they won twenty six to twenty four.
Speaker 3: But you know, Carlsfoot scored two tries in the last
Speaker 3: few minutes between the seventy third and seventy seventh to
Speaker 3: make it close. But it was all Saint Helen's. Lee
Speaker 3: Leopards Augulist Jersey in the World thirty versus the Hardersfield
Speaker 3: Giants sixteen South for Devils sixteen, Wakefield Trinity fifty two
Speaker 3: South of Devils at the bottom of the Bottle Ladder
Speaker 3: terrible team and the Wigan Warriors twenty two. This was
Speaker 3: the big clash. Wigan Warriors twenty two beat Leeds Rhinos
Speaker 3: brad Arthurs team six finished Hulkingston Rovers first on forty four,
Speaker 3: Wigan Warriors second forty two, Auguist Jersey in the World,
Speaker 3: Lee Leopards thirty nine and the Leeds Rhinos thirty six.
Speaker 3: Next week is the finals games. Two final games. We've
Speaker 3: got Lee Leopards which finished third up against Wakefield Trinity
Speaker 3: finished sixth, and then you've got the Leeds Rhinos Brad
Speaker 3: Arthur's team against Saint Helen's cole felt Our team Tenua.
Speaker 3: So that's the Super League rap. Good luck to the
Speaker 3: four teams playing next week. They will then face off
Speaker 3: the teams that came first, which are the two old teams.
Speaker 4: Have you watching? How's Sailor going?
Speaker 1: Tristan?
Speaker 3: He played last week. He's doing a right. I didn't
Speaker 3: see much of the game, but yeah, he's he's up there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he's wasting his time. He's got
Speaker 3: to come back to the n Yeah, I'd love to
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 4: That was probably one of the biggest issues I had
Speaker 4: with Walters, like a massive Wendell Saylor fan, and what
Speaker 4: we saw with Tristan Saylor. Yeah, he's just he's just amazing.
Speaker 3: Maybe Tristan, when you think about it, that Tristan had
Speaker 3: Ben hunt Man Reynolds, he had a few people in
Speaker 3: front of him blocking him, and he's got Riss Walsh,
Speaker 3: so maybe he chose to go as well. You don't know,
Speaker 3: mould have been his choice. Yeah, it's a shame because
Speaker 3: he was played at the Dragons in the juniors and
Speaker 3: he was outstanding. He used to kill it in the
Speaker 3: junior grades, and you could see this guy is going
Speaker 3: to be a special play, you know when you can
Speaker 3: just see it. And then he had that off field drama,
Speaker 3: and then he was off the league for a couple
Speaker 3: of years, and then he came back again. And it's
Speaker 3: good to seem like to his potential. You know.
Speaker 1: You know one of the.
Speaker 4: Guys that I did mention, which we can talk about
Speaker 4: it the wrap up, but you remember me talking about
Speaker 4: the trail Sequeld at the beginning of the year played
Speaker 4: for Broncos in the first couple of games. At the
Speaker 4: beginning he actually signed with Rabbits.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I know American.
Speaker 4: Rabbit is going to go, all right, another Bennett Bennett,
Speaker 4: but it'd be nice to yet sailor back.
Speaker 3: Yeahs anyway, anyway, be great, m And that wraps up
Speaker 3: Super League. Oh you know what I found which is depressing,
Speaker 3: what how does Field have got a play called George Flanagan.
Speaker 3: I'm just worried Georgia going to sign him next year.
Speaker 3: There's a Flannagan bloating out there that we haven't signed anyway,
Speaker 3: that's enough for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I tell you, do you have anything else done?
Speaker 1: I guess that's a wrap for us. I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't see how long we've gone for it didn't take notice.
Speaker 3: Nick, Did you hear the song last week at the
Speaker 3: end of the show, the Teddy Swims?
Speaker 1: Actually, no, you didn't hear it. I didn't make it
Speaker 1: that far.
Speaker 3: In okay, no worries.
Speaker 1: Did you like it? Yeah? It was good.
Speaker 3: It was good. I like Teddy Swims. He's going to
Speaker 3: be great. That's a good Finally, the inn Aulla picked
Speaker 3: up as someone that's actually popular, not popular, but someone
Speaker 3: that's pretty big at the moment. He's currently killing it.
Speaker 4: Well, and it's nice too because everyone's so obsessed with
Speaker 4: country now like so they yes, that's nice for them
Speaker 4: to get someone. Gosh, that grand final, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's going to be nuts. But but you know, all
Speaker 4: from me, I think crush things for the Broncos, even
Speaker 4: if you're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Brocos.
Speaker 1: It'll be good. Well, I'm going to order Mike al
Speaker 1: bab okay for I think I might think I might.
Speaker 1: I haven't had dinner tonight, so I think I might
Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, but that's a wrap for us.
Speaker 1: That's what our third, second, last, third, last show, yeah said,
Speaker 1: last show. That wraps up Episode twenty five, and enjoy
Speaker 1: your footy everyone, and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: So you next week and hopefully we get George back.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, enjoy and good luck, Tan. I hope you're
Speaker 3: taking it through good.
Speaker 1: It'll be good and everyone's there. Bye bye bye