Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're on break and hope you're enjoying the
holidays too. But just in case you're missing your daily
dose of the Chicks, we have something special for you.
Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy this replay of one of our
favorite interviews and make sure to tune in this year
from some exciting new ones that we have coming up.
Welcome to another deep dive edition of The Chicks on
the Right podcast. Very very excited because we have a
wonderful guest with us today.
Speaker 3: I'm going to refer to.
Speaker 2: You as doctor Sidney Watson, which I also want the
story about that too. But Sidney, you have been a
long time follow of ours on Twitter. We have watched
your work with a lot of admiration for a long time.
But it was a recent appearance that you made on
a Vice panel about feminism that really caught our attention
and the attention of so many other folks on Twitter.
We want to know how that panel came to be
because you and Pearl were like rock stars of that panel.
We want to hear all the dirt about some of
the other guests, how that panel came to be and
what the reaction has been since.
Speaker 4: Well, firstly, thank you for having me. This is really
exciting because I've actually read your blog for a little while,
so there is oh nice, I'm yeah, I know, it's
like mutual mutual love happening. So the Vice panel kind
of came to fruition, I suppose, because they just reached
out and they said, would you like to participate on
this feminism panel? And I was like, I'm actually leaving
to go back home to Australia in like, you know,
a week after. They were going to have it a
couple of days after, so I was like, yeah, we're
cutting it fine, but let's do it. That sounds like
a good idea. So we went through the whole process
of them calling me and in a sense, I guess
interviewing me, asking me all these questions about my opinions.
And I thought, maybe I'm going to be like the
most right wing person on the panel, and I'm not
sure that that actually turned out to be the case,
which kind of makes me laugh a little bit. But
they flew me out to New York and I you know,
stayed in I guess, you know the weird part of Brooklyn.
Have you guys been to New York recently?
Speaker 3: Every not recently, did I not recently, but yes, we've been.
I hate it.
Speaker 5: Everyone's ap what is that it smells?
Speaker 4: It's it smells like urine and everyone I don't know,
they all wear beanies in summertime.
Speaker 3: It's like did I, Yeah, I absolutely love I love
New York.
Speaker 1: I'm probably like one of the few people that I
hate when people say, like our RPR guy will be like, hey,
you guys need to go to New York, and I'm like,
I will do anything. I'd rather stab myself in the
face with with forks than go to me.
Speaker 3: I just hate it. I hate that place. But people
will fight me on it.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's cultural, it's great, the people are great,
and the restaurants and blah.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: No, it's dirty and the people look dirty too.
Speaker 5: I mean I was.
Speaker 4: I was on a phone call with my boyfriend walking
to actually get some food because the place that I
was staying and didn't have like really any you know,
restaurants or anything. You know how most hotels kind of
have like in built places you can go. Yeah, yes,
none of that. So I was like, all right, cool,
and I'm walking up the street to go and get
some food that i'd ordered, which, mind you, significantly overpriced,
like New Yorker's your food's not that good. I'm gonna
need down just a little bit. Cool you jets, and
I jump in an elevator. My phone goes dead, and
then you know, I obviously the col drops of my boyfriend,
and then I get these this barrash of messages afterwards,
going are you okay. I'm like, no, I've been murdered
by a thespian in the street. Oh now that was
not a funny joke. He was very upset, but you know,
that's how it feels. You feel like you're gonna get shipped,
and you're like, I'm not even in prison.
Speaker 3: What's happening? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: It's not a good time anyway.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I digress. Anyway, It's so true, which was fine.
You know, New York is whatever. I don't know why
people live there, but that's fine. What was so humorous
to me is that in order to get into the
studio you actually had to have a vaccine requirement, vaccine
card whatever. And for me, because I'm not vaccinated, and
this is something that I found very amusing doing a
lot of studio work, recently with some of these you know,
bigger studio spaces. Like when I went to LA. That
was a really interesting experience because the same thing that
had a requirement, so I had to jump through a
bunch of hoops to get you know, a test done
to show I had antibodies and the whole thing. So
I go and get a blood test. It was really fun.
Speaker 3: Did they shame you? Did they like completely shame you?
Speaker 5: And you're no advice? Was lovely. Even in the LA
experience that I had that no one shamed me.
Speaker 4: They were just like, this is the protocol, please just
do this basically.
Speaker 5: So what was so interesting?
Speaker 4: And I and at first I didn't want to say
this about the Vice thing because they have they have
so much footage now and I think if I make
them cross, am I gonna get some like edit this
together thing where I'm saying I am I eat babies
because they've en it that way, Like is that gonna
like who's to say? I don't know so, but you
know what they did me dirty with this whole thing.
They tried to copyright claim the video that I made
about my Vice experience.
Speaker 5: Oh god, what's happened? They've just been butt. They've been butts,
so I don't feel bad saying this.
Speaker 4: Anyway, They had this requirement, you must be vaccinated to
get into the studio, so be it. So what I
did was I filled out one of their exemptions, and
so they had a medical exemption and a religious exemption.
I'm a fairly well known human of the atheistic description.
I don't believe and I don't follow a religion. So
I'm thinking, what possibly could I fill out that relates
to me being an atheist.
Speaker 5: That means that I, you know, to fill out this exemption.
Speaker 4: So I told them that I believe in, you know,
some Chinese doctrine about you know, way Wu because I
can't put things in my body because I.
Speaker 5: Have to be the way of water. Like I just
filled this thing out.
Speaker 4: They approve it immediately, and then they say, that's great,
you use this to get into the building.
Speaker 5: So fast forward. Now I'm back in Thespian, New York.
I'm trying to get into the building.
Speaker 4: And security won't let me in because they're like, you're
not vaxed, and I'm like, no, I have an exemption
and they're like, no, we can't take this, and I'm
like you've you approved that, you filled this out.
Speaker 5: I'm showing you a form.
Speaker 4: That has your writing on it.
Speaker 5: I didn't do this. You think I just carry around
exemptions with me. I just walk into buildings of exempt
This is fine. No, this is your exemption.
Speaker 4: It's got your writing on it. So they were just
not cool about that. Eventually they were like no, no, no,
oh my god, this is fine.
Speaker 5: You can come in.
Speaker 4: And then we had to do all the mask wearing
and stuff, which I just didn't do.
Speaker 1: When you get when you get into the studio and
you're with all of these do they put you in
a room before you get on the panel, Because I've
always wondered about that. Are you shoved in a room
like Big Brother with all of these girls? Yeah, I'm
sorry all of these individuals. I don't want to say girls.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I shouldn't say girls because people will get
mad at me for saying girls.
Speaker 1: When you are so you're like shoved in a room
with all of these individuals, like and you're forced to
talk to one another and it's super awkward and.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's almost like so weird. I've been I've
been in somewhere, They've they've separated you into individual sort
of pods, if you will, Yeah, way to describe it,
then pods, but they do separate you sometimes. But this
is one where they popped us all into the same
room together. And now some of us knew who each
other was. So, for example, I know who Eli Orlick
was and I already had some opinions about that. And
there was another girl there who's a big gun advocate
called Antonia, I believe, but I was very familiar with
her as well, And so you sort of know each other,
but you don't. You're not at the point where you're
prepared to say anything, especially if you don't like somebody.
Speaker 5: And it was interesting because.
Speaker 4: Beforehand we were all sort of talking and I was
saying and this is actually something that I found very
interesting about this panel is that I have historically always
been sort of in the men's right space, where I've
talked a lot about, you know, the issues with fatherlessness
and you know, the ways that parenthood perhaps is being
sort of undermined and whatnot. I've talked a lot about
these issues because I really care about these things, because
I always felt like the female side of things was
more or less kind of covered you know, the feminists
were doing an okay ish job, I suppose in some
capacity with the least of things that I agree with.
So this was the first time I was going into
something thinking, oh, no, I significantly care about the female
issues that we're about to discuss. And also I was
feeling a little bit warmer towards feminists because of some
experiences that I had in twenty twenty two that sort
of made me see things a little bit more from
their advantage point, when previously I just simply hadn't. So
we were all sort of lamenting, talking about different things,
but and pieces, and then they situate us on the
set and that's when all hell brew close.
Speaker 5: So that's what you all came to watch.
Speaker 1: And did you have time? Did you have time with
them before they started recording or did they just immediately
start recording you guys, Well.
Speaker 5: They tend to put you in place.
Speaker 4: So they moved us around a bunch, and I suppose
that was the tallest of us in the back and
the shorter ones in the front. Yeah, so they moved
us around a whole heap, and then they do I'm
pretty sure actually at the end they filmed all the
shots of us coming in. They always do this, all
these like little glamour shots where you were standing there
looking sort of stowing off into the distance, like you're wistful,
have something useful to say, but no, they they sort
of We mucked around maybe for an hour or so,
just trying to get all the positioning and micd up
and everything, and then we really filmed. I think we
filmed probably for about four or five maybe even six hours.
Speaker 2: We were like, oh, yeah, so what's one of the
things that, like you said that you were glad that
you said that maybe got cut? Like, what's some of
the stuff that didn't make the final version.
Speaker 4: So we had a conversation about transgender children, which I
feel quite strongly about, and that's something that I talk
about a lot on my channel. Even we talked quite
a lot about biological men in women's spaces, which once
again we had two biological men on the panel, one
of whom was very nice. So it's it's it's sad
because I don't agree with that, with the way that
things are going at all, but I can at least
respect Jordan, who was sitting next to me, And I
feel bad for Jordan. I feel bad for you know,
it must be very very awful to be in a
body that you don't think is your own like that,
that has to be a very challenging thing. But it
doesn't mean I have to necessarily agree with all the
things that these people had to say and to be
honest with you, and I think that this kind of
is where I diverge from a lot of other people,
particularly feminists as well, is that I just simply don't
think that biological should be on a female panel talking
about women's rights. I just don't because how that's not
out there?
Speaker 2: You would think that that's like not a crazy point
of view, and yet kind of what you're made to feel.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I mean it's it's kind of strange because
in a way people won't reconcile the fact that a
biological man really doesn't have any significant meaningful experiences or
thoughts to offer to a conversation pertaining, like I said,
exclusively to female experiences. I mean, they can talk about
feminism overall, like they can, they can talk about how
feminism affects.
Speaker 5: Society, fine, fair call.
Speaker 4: But because that's that's something that you don't need to
have a singular female experience. You have an opinion upon
but these other things, I just think, well, you just
don't know, because you just don't know, you just simply
will never know. So I think one actually, one very
funny part that they did cut from the footage was
Eli Erleck had turned to one of the young ladies
who was sitting in the front, whose name is Leila,
who's also a conservative, and she didn't get a lot
of the airtime, which I thought was quite sad because
Leila is a very clever girl, and I agreed with
a lot of what she had to say. But Eli,
at one point, and like I said, as a biological man,
turns to Leila and says, tell me, I'm a man.
Speaker 5: And I just all of us.
Speaker 4: When we were talking about it afterwards just wish that
one of us had just said, you are, sir.
Speaker 3: Who was the one with the maniacal laughter that.
Speaker 1: Like, I think you called her lovingly with my favorite
jingle Jangles because of all the crap on her shirt.
I know there was, you remember all the crap on
her shirt?
Speaker 5: Is like how she, you know, pays for the removal
of barriers.
Speaker 3: I don't know, right it was it was, I know,
I know what a loon.
Speaker 4: She she lost She went off chops like off chops
on Instagram because so I I have a general rule,
because I have a decently sized audience, I do not
tag people if if they're like kind of a layman
in a sense, because I don't think it's right to
instigate pylons. I've been on the receiving end of pylons.
I can handle it, because you know, I feel like
my feelings shriveled up and died being in space. So
it's just like, Okay, this is just another one. But
you know a lot of people simply can't handle that.
And I just simply don't want to be a human
being who is instructing ellegion and the people to go
after somebody, so I don't I don't tag these people.
So I made a point of not tagging these individuals
in my commentary about the issue because I knew that
what they'd done hadn't sensed one of people, and I
knew that it wouldn't end well for them. So she
was Jingle Jangles was losing her ever loving mind on
Instagram and tagging me and these like just unhemen, Oh
my gosh, she experienced violence.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I knew that, but she said
that she did not say that. Really, yes she did.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So for anyone who's you know, not not
seen it, which the clip is everywhere now, which humorously
I said to Pearl. Actually after the whole thing, she
phoned me and she was like, oh my god, it's
outlaw and I said, yeah, nothing in this is super
viral though, which makes me. You know, if you're going
to do something like this, you do in a way,
always want to have viral movements. If it really has
gone to absolute shiit like this had. You know, if
it was a meaningful conversation, then fine, you don't need
anything viral. But this had obviously devolved, and it's like,
well you kind of want to get your money's worth, right, Yeah,
So that cup ended up going viral. And it's just
this unhinged lady just shouting at me. Why do I
just get shouted at? Actually this is sath that. This
is like my life got shouted up by Jack Murphy
and you are here and I get shot up by
Jingle Jangles.
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Speaker 1: So I'm always curious about people's backgrounds because I have
a I have our middle kid is your age, and
so I have two older kids and I have a
one that's been getting ready to turn thirteen, and so
we have a thirty three year old and twenty eight
year old. And then I think you're about twenty eight,
aren't you. You're like, well, no, you're closing it on thirty.
You're closing it on thirty, aren't you? Something like that?
Speaker 3: I think because you're a nineteen ninety three baby. I'm sorry,
is that right? Nineteen ninety three baby?
Speaker 4: That should be an Internet secret. I don't know how
people have found this out.
Speaker 3: Yes, anyways, I like you up this year.
Speaker 1: I'm like Wikipedia people, and it may not be accurate,
because lord knows, the things on Wikipedia said about us
a long time ago probably.
Speaker 3: Weren't all wave true.
Speaker 1: But you're probably around the same age as like our
middle kid. And so I'm just fascinated by the fact
that you have escaped the mentality that a lot of
I say younger people because we're old so I can
say that, but a lot of younger people have fallen
into and that is like this woke you know, like,
oh my god, I'm a victim because the patriarchy, all
the stuff that like the women nowadays, you know, fall
into you, because we've seen it. I mean, I'm fifty
one and so we've seen women over the past several
decades sort of I don't want to say degrade, but
just the ideology of feminism, Like we just think feminism
is a complete and utter joke now because now it's
like free the nipple and don't look at my booze,
but look at my boos but don't but do and
it's like there's We've we've had many discussions on our
podcast about feminism and just what it's turned into. And
I'm just fascinated when I see women like you, because
I'm like, God, how did she like, where do you
come from? And how do you how do you not
how are you not like all these other girls like that?
Because you're an anomaly. Right, you're the exception to what
everybody else is and how how did that happen?
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 3: And then also explain when you became a doctor?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Well, in answer to the first question, like,
un ironically, I really like my dad.
Speaker 5: I don't know, he and I just get on really well.
Speaker 4: And I think that I've had really really awesome, strong
parental role models. So Okay, my parents are it's kind
of funny. They're very traditional, but not traditional. So the
way that they have I guess structured their household has
given me a really good example of what it looks
like when you have people who can simultaneously fit into
that sort of traditional structure of a family unit but
also both be business owning, very driven, go orientated human beings.
And my mom is like, I probably can't swear on
your show.
Speaker 3: But no, you swear. We swear all the time.
Speaker 4: She's a badass, Like she's just she's just so cool.
And I think that that's probably the person that I
have had to look up to my whole life. So
it was child I mean really in my house, there
was absolutely no way that I was going to get
away with being like a raging wooster, because I think
my family would have just mocked me until I decided
to stop. I mean, I think that it's just in part, yeah,
like I said, due to good parenting, having strong figures
around me, But also I think that I don't like
the tribalism that comes along with a lot of this
type of stuff. I think that where I diverge, once
again from a lot of other people who are my
age and a lot of other women, is the fact
that I look at things from sort of like this
top down perspective, that where I say, how does how
would society function if we had this utopian feminist society?
And I don't think it would function too well. I
don't want to see the boogeyman behind every corner. I
don't want to view every man through the lens of oh,
he's you know, going to potentially be somebody who's harmful, YadA, YadA.
And I think that you got to take experiences as
they come. So, like I said, in twenty twenty two,
that was a fundamentally.
Speaker 5: Distressing year for me, a pivotal year.
Speaker 4: A lot of my opinions change, or a lot of
my opinions were sort of they become a lot more nuanced,
and so now, like I said, I do see some
things from the feminist vantage point when I hadn't previously.
But it doesn't mean that I throw out the entire
you know, the baby with the bathwater type of thing.
I'm not going to throw everything away because now I
kind of get why they're right in some respects.
Speaker 5: So I think, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just I guess I just try to be a
human being that's like nice to other people. And if
that means that I'm not a crazy wok feminist, then
so be it.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have a good answer for
that because I've always just sort of not done.
Speaker 1: What other No, that's I think that was a great answer,
I think, And you can tell like your parents probably
held you accountable for things and if you have right,
I think that's a huge part of it from a
from a parental perspective. Just hearing that answer that it
was a great ant. No, it's that answers a lot
from me. I think it really does. And just having
a strong both male and female role model in your life,
that's your parents, for Christ's sake, it.
Speaker 3: Makes such a difference.
Speaker 2: It makes such a huge difference, but I still need
to know where you got the doctor timele.
Speaker 4: So, because I do a lot of coverage of child
safeguarding and child safety measures, it's led me to meet
some really really interesting people who also function much more
heavily in the space in that space, and there is
one professor in particular who I mentioned. I covered some
of his work in one of the videos that I
made about I believe it was. There's an organization called
Prostasia and they sort of they style themselves as a
child safeguarding organization, but really they're kind of a front
for pedophilia, which is really sad, and they it's.
Speaker 5: So gross actually, because a lot.
Speaker 4: Of people look to them sort of the organization to
emulate when it comes to all of this, like, oh,
look at these people. These are the virtuous pedophiles that
don't offend, when in reality, I'm pretty sure their manager
is like an unapologetic yes, I'm attracted to kids, Yes
I'm going to always be attracted to kids, and basically,
you know, suck it type of god. One of the
guys who is covering this, one of this, this professor
who I don't know if he would like me naming him,
so I.
Speaker 5: Guess I won't, but he's awesome. He does really great work.
Speaker 4: He reached out to me and he was like, oh,
you know, hey, we ended up connecting and he's super funny.
I believe he studied actually at the same university as
me and Melbourne.
Speaker 5: So that's really cool.
Speaker 4: And he said, you know, it's my life go to
see you become a doctor. And I was like, oh, yeah,
why is that And he's like, I don't know. Someone
has to call you doctor Watson. So he was actually
the one who submitted me for an honorary doctorate with
the work that I do in regards to child safeguarding
and whatnot. And yes, it's.
Speaker 3: So you're doctor Sidney Watson.
Speaker 5: It's kind of meme.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind I mean it's funny because when people
try to discredit it, they can't because it's technically correct,
and for me, it's just hilarious. You know, I just
get some to force people to call me that, and
then it's funny because once again, after this Vice panel,
you do have the backing and forth thing with the
people that were on the panel, especially Eli, who you know,
to Eli's credit, as much as I don't like Eli
and Eli pedals drugs and what have you. Eli can
handle it at least, like when you're backing and forth
thing on the internet, which I respect that and tried
to be like, oh, this is this person is pretending
to be a doctor.
Speaker 5: Vice. Do you know this person is pretending to be
a doctor. I'm like, does Vice know what you're pretending
to be? Eli?
Speaker 4: So curiosity perfect, but you know it's yeah, it definitelyly.
Speaker 5: It ruffles feathers.
Speaker 4: It's very funny whenever people write articles about me when
I do things that are inflammatory and they say doctor Watson,
then I.
Speaker 3: Say, yes, I love that. I think it's like that.
Speaker 4: It's a very unexciting story behind the doctor thing story.
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta tell us about the whole airplane fiasco
because this also got your law attention. This was last year, right,
sometime last year?
Speaker 5: Yes, this was October.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So give people the background for those folks
who haven't heard about your miserable flight experience and why
it became such a huge story given the background.
Speaker 5: So, actually that was the flight coming home from New York.
Speaker 4: Uh, and I had to be on this specific flight
because I needed to get back because like I said,
I was flying back to Australia in like two days,
so I really didn't have any sort of wiggle room
on the issue. So anyway, so I jump on my
flight and I'm troddling on down to the back of
the plane and I see these two very large humans
and I'm in the middle seat and.
Speaker 5: I thought, no, this is I refuse. I just I
don't want to so some I just thought I'll be
put light.
Speaker 4: So I sat down and the thing killed me was
that behind me in the final row were these like
group of like kind of cute, like foreign, like I
don't know, Eastern Europeans sounding boys, And I was like,
you have to be kidding me, Like this is not
happening to me right now, I'm gonna sit between two
behemoth humans and just wished while these cute boys behind
me are like ha ha, probably watching this, just thinking
this is what you get, lady. So I'm screaming internally
as soon as I sit down. And the trouble was
that it was a full flight. So a lot of
people have said to me, why didn't you get an alec,
Why didn't you do this, Why didn't you do that? Well,
I had to be on the flight. There was no
other seats available because then basically what happened was, you know,
I'm sitting on the plane for three and a half
four hours, because that's how long it takes to get
back to Texas.
Speaker 5: And the air hostesses or were the air host is
that what the male ones are called.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The flight attendance.
Speaker 4: This flight attendant is walking every so often, cleaning, Yes,
do you need anything?
Speaker 5: Whiskey?
Speaker 4: I don't know, got the white flag waving. So anyway,
he was very kind. He kept leaning over and saying
do you need me help? And I'm I'm sitting here
like people need to understand, like I'm wedged between this
very obese person on the window seat and the very
obese person in the aisle seat.
Speaker 3: Were they together?
Speaker 4: Yes, there were siblings because at one stage, because people
kept saying afterwards after the story blew up, they said, Sidney,
why didn't you ask to swap?
Speaker 5: And I did.
Speaker 4: I turned to the to the man and because I
believe his sister had headphones in, and so I turned
to him and I said, do you want.
Speaker 5: To swap seats? And he goes, no, that's my sister.
Speaker 4: I sit next to her all the time, and I
was like, yes, but I don't I don't particularly want to,
so so he wouldn't swap suits with me, which kind
of sucked. And then I started raide sweeting just because
I was like, for God's sake, because these things, these things,
it's so funny. I fly a lot, and these things
do happen, right you do you sit next to the
smelly person or the person who's encroaching upon your space
because their legs keep drifting over into your space? Fine,
you know, I think that that sort of you sign
us contract in a way when you go out into public,
and you can expect these things to happen. And most people,
most people are very kind about it, and they'll be like,
oh my god, they're horrified to know that they're doing
these things, whereas these people just didn't seem to care.
And so I thought, well, if you don't care, then
I don't care. So I'm rage tweeting and my followers
are just loving it. They are having the greatest time.
They're like, sitting, this is the funniest thing I've ever read.
And I'm trying to take photos, not because I wanted
to shame anybody, like jokes aside. I really didn't want
to shame anybody, but I wanted to demonstrate what was happening,
because everyone on Twitter goes.
Speaker 5: They didn't halpen. I don't believe you. Well, I have
picture evidence.
Speaker 4: I have pictorials of what was going on, and you
didn't someone to.
Speaker 3: You didn't take pictures of their faces.
Speaker 5: It wasn't their faces.
Speaker 1: It was just like our arms and like I know,
like the kind of the rolls on their ead.
Speaker 4: To show the arm rolls that were sort of you know,
moving over into into.
Speaker 3: My script, but see armors down.
Speaker 5: My legs were crushed together.
Speaker 4: And again people didn't realize this, but I had hip
surgery years ago because as I'd torn a ligament in
some cartilage, and so if my I have like really
limited mobility on the right side of my body, and
so if my hips are being squished like this, you
know my legs are being pressed in. The pain that
causes me is actually quite significant. And so I'm sitting
there for three and a half hours, like wedged, leaning
over because if I was sitting back, my body was
crushed and if I sat for then I got a
bit of space. Like I said, I'm just rage tweeting
the whole time and that went viral. And then as
I'm flying out to go to Australia, I'm getting all
these like I'm sitting at the airport getting request request
requests for interview and I'm like, oh my god, now I'm.
Speaker 3: About to get onto sixteen hour and people and some
people were mad about this.
Speaker 1: Some people were maud, oh, yeah, because it's because it's
fat phobic, right, you can't say that about fat people,
because we've like glorified the We've glorified obesity in this
contry because thirty percent of us, what a third of
us are obese now and you can't and we got
to glorify that because you know, it's cool to be
fat now.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, the fat acceptance movement I think has
a lot to answer for because as a general rule,
I don't disagree with feeling good in your own body.
So in fact, I was just having a conversation with
a girlfriend of mine last night who is beautiful. She's beautiful,
and she's extremely fit. She works out all the time,
and she was saying to me that one of her
biggest concerns is that she doesn't have cleavage. She has
basically she doesn't have a flat chest. I wouldn't say
that at all, but she thinks that she has a
flat chest and she's very self conscious. And I was like, dude,
you got two options because you're not gonna ever get implants,
are you. She's like, no, they're so bad for you.
I don't want that, and I say great, So your
other option besides implants, then is just learning to like yourself.
And if you can achieve that, I don't have to
tell you. So, I mean, this is the thing, is like,
I've got.
Speaker 5: No problem, no problem whatsoever with going Oh am I too?
Am I short? And I don't like it? But I'm
going to accept it?
Speaker 4: Fine?
Speaker 5: Am I tall? And I don't like it whatever? Like
accept things about.
Speaker 4: Yourself that you just fundamentally can't change, but you can
change your body weight. And I don't like the fact
that it has become this thing socially where being unhealthy
is the new healthy.
Speaker 5: That's so it's so clown world.
Speaker 4: It's so backwards that I think it's bizarre that we
live in a period of time where if you're dieting
and trying to ameliorate your life, people will be like,
what are.
Speaker 5: You fat phobic? Are you racist?
Speaker 4: Because racism is grounded in fat phobia, Like, no, this
person wants to actually live to see their kids grow
up potato.
Speaker 5: So it's it's frustrating. And yes, I did get a
lot of hate. I got so much hate.
Speaker 3: Because you're so privileged. You're so privileged, and then.
Speaker 4: Because I'm privileged exactly, and I'm a white What am
I a white Australian that lives in a bubble?
Speaker 5: I'm so many things that this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So at the end of the day, like
do I feel bad for the people on the airplane.
I don't from the vantage point that they should have
had to buy an extra seat. This is what made
people so cross, is my I guess thesis was these
people should have to buy an extra seat or they
shouldn't be allowed on the plane. And in fact, every
airline has requirements for what you need to do with
people who are extremely overweight, because in the event of
an emergency, in the event of you say that you're
sitting next to somebody who like me, has you know, issues,
and they need their actual space that you know, they
have a hit problem or whatever, and they need to
actually be in their bloody seat I've paid for my seat.
I didn't pay for half a seat. So yes, it's
it's sad that the airlines don't enforce these policies. But
greater than that, maybe we should be putting some emphasis
on not letting people be balloon people.
Speaker 2: Just did you get didn't you get like you got
some sort of restitution from the airline?
Speaker 5: Did you not?
Speaker 3: How did that work out?
Speaker 4: So I kept saying online again, joking leagues, I don't
think people understand Australian humors. Sometimes I kept saying, I
want reparations.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you know, and then and then these
articles will pop up.
Speaker 4: Oh doctor Sidney Watson, American comment Australian American commentator, I
wants reparations.
Speaker 5: From American airlines. And I'm going, yeah, fine, let's just
run with this.
Speaker 6: So I'm I want reparations, and even I have like
there's a there's a clip of Tyrus on I can't
remember the show that he does on Fox five.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's like, give the girl the reparation. She's like
have yeah, oh power Tour. And I'm like, I'm just kidding, okay, yes,
I want reparations anyway, So they end up giving me
one hundred and fifty dollar a flight credit, which I
was like, and then I took that and I tweeted
and I said, I will sincerely like no joke.
Speaker 5: You give this to somebody for a gym membership or.
Speaker 4: For personal training, and then I get more hate articles
written about me almost Oh my gosh. I want people
to be healthy, eating seed oils your potatoes good. Great?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so funny.
Speaker 3: Are kind of absurd though.
Speaker 1: It's so absurd because like you get on a plane
and then they get so mad if you like have
your seat back like that little inch. The stuartss are
like all pissed off and they're like, you gotta get
your seat like back up, and and then you're like
drowning in two people. And they don't see a problem
with that.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You're like seriously, like what it's absurd?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did like though. I did like that the
fight attendants checked in. That was really kind of them
because there was nothing that they could do. They even
said at the end, they were so funny. One of
the men, the man who kept coming past and asking
me if I needed anything.
Speaker 5: He said, I tried to find a child to swap
with you. I tried to find a child.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well that's sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very nice. I was like, yeah, you know,
I was singing to myself, what parent would just give
you the.
Speaker 3: Give their child that? Yeah, I volunteer this tribute exactly, Like, so.
Speaker 4: What was your traumatic episode in life? Well, it's poor.
Let's just feel bad for these kids, honestly. But they
also said they would have given me free boos.
Speaker 5: I'm sad.
Speaker 4: I'm not a big drinker, but I think that was
the This the situation where I may have been guzzling,
like the little tiny vodka bottles, just bringing them.
Speaker 3: Let's go boys, When did you turn into an alcoholic?
Speaker 4: It was like, this was the traumatic episode changed my life.
I probably would have gotten belligerent though, so then it
would have been over.
Speaker 3: L for a whole different reason.
Speaker 2: But at least at least this didn't happen on your
sixteen hour flight because miserable.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would have been.
Speaker 4: A very thin couple on my flight to Australia. I
think I thinked you know the flying gods that the
people go to the gym exactly?
Speaker 3: Well, what's next for you? Do you have any other panels?
Coming up. No, I think I need you're paneled out.
Speaker 4: What I what I really want to put together though,
And he did say this because I make videos about
all these incidences just because my audience then gets an
insight into what actually was happening. And he did say
in the video I made about the Vice thing, I
would love to actually talk to some feminists that are
not crazy, because I know that they're not crazy feminists
out there, and some a couple of people reached out
said I'd actually happily do a panel, and I thought, cool,
let's actually put something together that's valuable rather than just shrieking.
I don't know, so no, no, no panels coming up
for me. I just really I just need a break
actually from craziness and crazy people. I want to focus
this year on some female outreach, so doing some things
that relate to getting women away from that side of
the island, perhaps towards the center or even the right wing,
because I think I don't know if you ladies agree
with this, but something that does bother me about the
space that we're in is that I feel like a
lot of women get alienated, and it's largely just because yes,
there's a lot of humor that goes on that I
think you have to have a really specific bent to
appreciate that come from some of our male commentators. And
that's fine, that's humor, it is what it is. But
there's some like legitimately not great opinions. I think they
get espoused relating to women, and I think women are awesome.
It's and I don't like that they think the way
that they think about society and about being a woman
and all this type of thing, and I'd like them
to feel a lot more comfortable maybe seeing things from
our vantage point a little bit. So that's kind of
what I want to do this year.
Speaker 5: But no more.
Speaker 3: I think that's great.
Speaker 1: Like we've always said, because we've we've sort of been
a I always say that we're the we're kind of
like the island of misfit toys. Yeah, when it comes
to conservatism, we've for fourteen years we've been doing this,
and we've never really felt like we fit in Sydney.
Speaker 3: So I hear you on that.
Speaker 1: I think it's perhaps that's because we're women. I don't know, maybe,
like maybe I said, maybe it's not because but that
may be one of the reasons.
Speaker 3: And so I get that.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I really do, and so
I think that's brilliant what you're doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially if you have some opinions that
don't necessarily fit in with the status quo, because again,
the tribalism is just it's it's annoying.
Speaker 5: It's just frankly annoying.
Speaker 4: And once again, this is another interesting thing that again
I'm sure that you find this too, if you take
leave of the say traditional conservative or right wing or
whatever talking points, we always get accused of being a feminist,
and I just think, no, you don't have to be
a feminist and subscribe to third wave feminism to believe that,
you know, women are valuable and awesome and that they
contribute so much to society. But also in something that
I'm realizing, and it's so funny because I think a
lot of my girlfriends and I are having these moments,
like one after the other, we're all kind of like
having these huh moments together where like women operate differently
to men like I'm sorry, and that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it is okay yeah, and sometimes be structured
around that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, right, And sometimes it's it's not
even what you say, but the way that you say
it that's off putting to some right wing people and
they don't they're very uncomfortable with that. And so especially
coming from you know, like you're a woman, you're supposed
to act a certain way, or be a certain way,
even have a certain age, You're supposed to be a
certain way.
Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, we're not that way. Sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah,
so I hear you, totally hear you on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Sidney, tell our audience the best places that
they can find and follow you.
Speaker 5: Well, if you want to be offended perpetually, I'm on
that's where.
Speaker 4: That's where I let my bitchiness just come alive and
do its thing. But Sydney out Watson on Twitter. If
you want to hear mean takes and if you want
to hear the thought out nice ones, you true about
Sidney Watson. Although I'm trying again, I'm sure you ladies
can relate to this. This year, one of my biggest
things is to basically move into the cultural space a
little bit away from the political space, because I just
feel like covering there's so many other topics and other things,
so I'm moving into like I've just started a gaming channel.
I don't know if your audience is interested stuff like that,
but talking about like the more cultural things rather than
the political stuff because covers so much doom and gloom
so much.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, people like.
Speaker 5: The doom and gloom. Then then I'm here for it.
That's where I am.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
Speaker 5: Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been great to get the inside scoop about
the panel and about the flight, because that's what we
were really hoping to find out about, and it's been
so fun to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
We really appreciate you being on the show with us.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you.
Speaker 3: Great talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Definitely fun. Great to meet you, and we hope to
talk to you very soon in the future.
Speaker 5: Thanks for watching.
Speaker 2: We'll be back in January sixth, so make sure to
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