1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're on break and hope you're enjoying the 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,639 holidays too. But just in case you're missing your daily 3 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:06,679 dose of the Chicks, we have something special for you. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,679 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy this replay of one of our 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,960 favorite interviews and make sure to tune in this year 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,199 from some exciting new ones that we have coming up. 7 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:16,600 Welcome to another deep dive edition of The Chicks on 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,359 the Right podcast. Very very excited because we have a 9 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:20,719 wonderful guest with us today. 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to refer to. 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: You as doctor Sidney Watson, which I also want the 12 00:00:25,559 --> 00:00:29,199 story about that too. But Sidney, you have been a 13 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,439 long time follow of ours on Twitter. We have watched 14 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:36,159 your work with a lot of admiration for a long time. 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,359 But it was a recent appearance that you made on 16 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:44,880 a Vice panel about feminism that really caught our attention 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,159 and the attention of so many other folks on Twitter. 18 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:51,679 We want to know how that panel came to be 19 00:00:51,679 --> 00:00:55,600 because you and Pearl were like rock stars of that panel. 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,759 We want to hear all the dirt about some of 21 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:00,359 the other guests, how that panel came to be and 22 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:02,719 what the reaction has been since. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,359 Speaker 4: Well, firstly, thank you for having me. This is really 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,959 exciting because I've actually read your blog for a little while, 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,079 so there is oh nice, I'm yeah, I know, it's 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,040 like mutual mutual love happening. So the Vice panel kind 27 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:17,519 of came to fruition, I suppose, because they just reached 28 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:20,439 out and they said, would you like to participate on 29 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,760 this feminism panel? And I was like, I'm actually leaving 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,359 to go back home to Australia in like, you know, 31 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,040 a week after. They were going to have it a 32 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:28,719 couple of days after, so I was like, yeah, we're 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,319 cutting it fine, but let's do it. That sounds like 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,120 a good idea. So we went through the whole process 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,680 of them calling me and in a sense, I guess 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,000 interviewing me, asking me all these questions about my opinions. 37 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,599 And I thought, maybe I'm going to be like the 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,120 most right wing person on the panel, and I'm not 39 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:44,239 sure that that actually turned out to be the case, 40 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:46,959 which kind of makes me laugh a little bit. But 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,879 they flew me out to New York and I you know, 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,040 stayed in I guess, you know the weird part of Brooklyn. 43 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Have you guys been to New York recently? 44 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,599 Speaker 3: Every not recently, did I not recently, but yes, we've been. 45 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:00,920 I hate it. 46 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:03,799 Speaker 5: Everyone's ap what is that it smells? 47 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: It's it smells like urine and everyone I don't know, 48 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:08,240 they all wear beanies in summertime. 49 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,439 Speaker 3: It's like did I, Yeah, I absolutely love I love 50 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:13,000 New York. 51 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm probably like one of the few people that I 52 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,879 hate when people say, like our RPR guy will be like, hey, 53 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:19,599 you guys need to go to New York, and I'm like, 54 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,919 I will do anything. I'd rather stab myself in the 55 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,400 face with with forks than go to me. 56 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: I just hate it. I hate that place. But people 57 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,840 will fight me on it. 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: They're like, it's cultural, it's great, the people are great, 59 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:31,719 and the restaurants and blah. 60 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: No, it's dirty and the people look dirty too. 62 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,319 Speaker 5: I mean I was. 63 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: I was on a phone call with my boyfriend walking 64 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,240 to actually get some food because the place that I 65 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,280 was staying and didn't have like really any you know, 66 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,599 restaurants or anything. You know how most hotels kind of 67 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,680 have like in built places you can go. Yeah, yes, 68 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:49,960 none of that. So I was like, all right, cool, 69 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,400 and I'm walking up the street to go and get 70 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:55,400 some food that i'd ordered, which, mind you, significantly overpriced, 71 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:57,879 like New Yorker's your food's not that good. I'm gonna 72 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:01,639 need down just a little bit. Cool you jets, and 73 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,199 I jump in an elevator. My phone goes dead, and 74 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,960 then you know, I obviously the col drops of my boyfriend, 75 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,960 and then I get these this barrash of messages afterwards, 76 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,039 going are you okay. I'm like, no, I've been murdered 77 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:17,960 by a thespian in the street. Oh now that was 78 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,960 not a funny joke. He was very upset, but you know, 79 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,479 that's how it feels. You feel like you're gonna get shipped, 80 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:23,719 and you're like, I'm not even in prison. 81 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: What's happening? Yeah, exactly. 82 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 5: It's not a good time anyway. 83 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,599 Speaker 4: Sorry, I digress. Anyway, It's so true, which was fine. 84 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:32,319 You know, New York is whatever. I don't know why 85 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,439 people live there, but that's fine. What was so humorous 86 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:37,120 to me is that in order to get into the 87 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:42,199 studio you actually had to have a vaccine requirement, vaccine 88 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:45,719 card whatever. And for me, because I'm not vaccinated, and 89 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:48,199 this is something that I found very amusing doing a 90 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,759 lot of studio work, recently with some of these you know, 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,680 bigger studio spaces. Like when I went to LA. That 92 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:56,520 was a really interesting experience because the same thing that 93 00:03:56,599 --> 00:03:58,039 had a requirement, so I had to jump through a 94 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,759 bunch of hoops to get you know, a test done 95 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:02,599 to show I had antibodies and the whole thing. So 96 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:04,439 I go and get a blood test. It was really fun. 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: Did they shame you? Did they like completely shame you? 98 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,919 Speaker 5: And you're no advice? Was lovely. Even in the LA 99 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,639 experience that I had that no one shamed me. 100 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: They were just like, this is the protocol, please just 101 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:16,920 do this basically. 102 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: So what was so interesting? 103 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:20,519 Speaker 4: And I and at first I didn't want to say 104 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:24,040 this about the Vice thing because they have they have 105 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,000 so much footage now and I think if I make 106 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:28,160 them cross, am I gonna get some like edit this 107 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,439 together thing where I'm saying I am I eat babies 108 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:33,720 because they've en it that way, Like is that gonna 109 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,439 like who's to say? I don't know so, but you 110 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,480 know what they did me dirty with this whole thing. 111 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,639 They tried to copyright claim the video that I made 112 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:41,959 about my Vice experience. 113 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 5: Oh god, what's happened? They've just been butt. They've been butts, 114 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:47,839 so I don't feel bad saying this. 115 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: Anyway, They had this requirement, you must be vaccinated to 116 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,759 get into the studio, so be it. So what I 117 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,560 did was I filled out one of their exemptions, and 118 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,920 so they had a medical exemption and a religious exemption. 119 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,439 I'm a fairly well known human of the atheistic description. 120 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,920 I don't believe and I don't follow a religion. So 121 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:08,920 I'm thinking, what possibly could I fill out that relates 122 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,000 to me being an atheist. 123 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: That means that I, you know, to fill out this exemption. 124 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:15,199 Speaker 4: So I told them that I believe in, you know, 125 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:21,240 some Chinese doctrine about you know, way Wu because I 126 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,759 can't put things in my body because I. 127 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:24,439 Speaker 5: Have to be the way of water. Like I just 128 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:25,360 filled this thing out. 129 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: They approve it immediately, and then they say, that's great, 130 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:31,639 you use this to get into the building. 131 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 5: So fast forward. Now I'm back in Thespian, New York. 132 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:36,560 I'm trying to get into the building. 133 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: And security won't let me in because they're like, you're 134 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,480 not vaxed, and I'm like, no, I have an exemption 135 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:42,399 and they're like, no, we can't take this, and I'm 136 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:45,480 like you've you approved that, you filled this out. 137 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 5: I'm showing you a form. 138 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: That has your writing on it. 139 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,959 Speaker 5: I didn't do this. You think I just carry around 140 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,720 exemptions with me. I just walk into buildings of exempt 141 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,879 This is fine. No, this is your exemption. 142 00:05:56,959 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: It's got your writing on it. So they were just 143 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,040 not cool about that. Eventually they were like no, no, no, 144 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:04,079 oh my god, this is fine. 145 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,759 Speaker 5: You can come in. 146 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: And then we had to do all the mask wearing 147 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:08,079 and stuff, which I just didn't do. 148 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:11,959 Speaker 1: When you get when you get into the studio and 149 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,079 you're with all of these do they put you in 150 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:16,439 a room before you get on the panel, Because I've 151 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,399 always wondered about that. Are you shoved in a room 152 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:22,959 like Big Brother with all of these girls? Yeah, I'm 153 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:25,240 sorry all of these individuals. I don't want to say girls. 154 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,079 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I shouldn't say girls because people will get 155 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:27,959 mad at me for saying girls. 156 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: When you are so you're like shoved in a room 157 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,199 with all of these individuals, like and you're forced to 158 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,800 talk to one another and it's super awkward and. 159 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,639 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's almost like so weird. I've been I've 160 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,680 been in somewhere, They've they've separated you into individual sort 161 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,079 of pods, if you will, Yeah, way to describe it, 162 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,800 then pods, but they do separate you sometimes. But this 163 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,480 is one where they popped us all into the same 164 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,240 room together. And now some of us knew who each 165 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,639 other was. So, for example, I know who Eli Orlick 166 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,839 was and I already had some opinions about that. And 167 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,399 there was another girl there who's a big gun advocate 168 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,399 called Antonia, I believe, but I was very familiar with 169 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:09,639 her as well, And so you sort of know each other, 170 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,439 but you don't. You're not at the point where you're 171 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,240 prepared to say anything, especially if you don't like somebody. 172 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: And it was interesting because. 173 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: Beforehand we were all sort of talking and I was 174 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,240 saying and this is actually something that I found very 175 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,000 interesting about this panel is that I have historically always 176 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,959 been sort of in the men's right space, where I've 177 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,120 talked a lot about, you know, the issues with fatherlessness 178 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,600 and you know, the ways that parenthood perhaps is being 179 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:36,439 sort of undermined and whatnot. I've talked a lot about 180 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:38,480 these issues because I really care about these things, because 181 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,680 I always felt like the female side of things was 182 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 more or less kind of covered you know, the feminists 183 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,360 were doing an okay ish job, I suppose in some 184 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,240 capacity with the least of things that I agree with. 185 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,879 So this was the first time I was going into 186 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,639 something thinking, oh, no, I significantly care about the female 187 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:55,639 issues that we're about to discuss. And also I was 188 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:58,079 feeling a little bit warmer towards feminists because of some 189 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,879 experiences that I had in twenty twenty two that sort 190 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,720 of made me see things a little bit more from 191 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 their advantage point, when previously I just simply hadn't. So 192 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:08,120 we were all sort of lamenting, talking about different things, 193 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,720 but and pieces, and then they situate us on the 194 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:12,480 set and that's when all hell brew close. 195 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,319 Speaker 5: So that's what you all came to watch. 196 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: And did you have time? Did you have time with 197 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:21,959 them before they started recording or did they just immediately 198 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,439 start recording you guys, Well. 199 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 5: They tend to put you in place. 200 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,759 Speaker 4: So they moved us around a bunch, and I suppose 201 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:29,639 that was the tallest of us in the back and 202 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,559 the shorter ones in the front. Yeah, so they moved 203 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,600 us around a whole heap, and then they do I'm 204 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,440 pretty sure actually at the end they filmed all the 205 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,279 shots of us coming in. They always do this, all 206 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,200 these like little glamour shots where you were standing there 207 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,679 looking sort of stowing off into the distance, like you're wistful, 208 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,679 have something useful to say, but no, they they sort 209 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,960 of We mucked around maybe for an hour or so, 210 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:52,240 just trying to get all the positioning and micd up 211 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,279 and everything, and then we really filmed. I think we 212 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,799 filmed probably for about four or five maybe even six hours. 213 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: We were like, oh, yeah, so what's one of the 214 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,600 things that, like you said that you were glad that 215 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,320 you said that maybe got cut? Like, what's some of 216 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,559 the stuff that didn't make the final version. 217 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,879 Speaker 4: So we had a conversation about transgender children, which I 218 00:09:14,879 --> 00:09:16,799 feel quite strongly about, and that's something that I talk 219 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 about a lot on my channel. Even we talked quite 220 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,399 a lot about biological men in women's spaces, which once 221 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,759 again we had two biological men on the panel, one 222 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:29,799 of whom was very nice. So it's it's it's sad 223 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,840 because I don't agree with that, with the way that 224 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:36,320 things are going at all, but I can at least 225 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,440 respect Jordan, who was sitting next to me, And I 226 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,559 feel bad for Jordan. I feel bad for you know, 227 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,720 it must be very very awful to be in a 228 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,360 body that you don't think is your own like that, 229 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,200 that has to be a very challenging thing. But it 230 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,080 doesn't mean I have to necessarily agree with all the 231 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,879 things that these people had to say and to be 232 00:09:51,919 --> 00:09:53,440 honest with you, and I think that this kind of 233 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:56,159 is where I diverge from a lot of other people, 234 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:58,960 particularly feminists as well, is that I just simply don't 235 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,440 think that biological should be on a female panel talking 236 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,639 about women's rights. I just don't because how that's not 237 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:05,559 out there? 238 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: You would think that that's like not a crazy point 239 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,360 of view, and yet kind of what you're made to feel. 240 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:12,519 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I mean it's it's kind of strange because 241 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,919 in a way people won't reconcile the fact that a 242 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:22,480 biological man really doesn't have any significant meaningful experiences or 243 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:25,480 thoughts to offer to a conversation pertaining, like I said, 244 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,320 exclusively to female experiences. I mean, they can talk about 245 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,600 feminism overall, like they can, they can talk about how 246 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,159 feminism affects. 247 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 5: Society, fine, fair call. 248 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: But because that's that's something that you don't need to 249 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:38,279 have a singular female experience. You have an opinion upon 250 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,360 but these other things, I just think, well, you just 251 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:43,679 don't know, because you just don't know, you just simply 252 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,039 will never know. So I think one actually, one very 253 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,320 funny part that they did cut from the footage was 254 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:53,000 Eli Erleck had turned to one of the young ladies 255 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,480 who was sitting in the front, whose name is Leila, 256 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,519 who's also a conservative, and she didn't get a lot 257 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,440 of the airtime, which I thought was quite sad because 258 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,919 Leila is a very clever girl, and I agreed with 259 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,320 a lot of what she had to say. But Eli, 260 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,679 at one point, and like I said, as a biological man, 261 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,519 turns to Leila and says, tell me, I'm a man. 262 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: And I just all of us. 263 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: When we were talking about it afterwards just wish that 264 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:15,120 one of us had just said, you are, sir. 265 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: Who was the one with the maniacal laughter that. 266 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: Like, I think you called her lovingly with my favorite 267 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,440 jingle Jangles because of all the crap on her shirt. 268 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,120 I know there was, you remember all the crap on 269 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:29,600 her shirt? 270 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:32,759 Speaker 5: Is like how she, you know, pays for the removal 271 00:11:32,799 --> 00:11:33,240 of barriers. 272 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, right it was it was, I know, 273 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:37,399 I know what a loon. 274 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: She she lost She went off chops like off chops 275 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,399 on Instagram because so I I have a general rule, 276 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:47,360 because I have a decently sized audience, I do not 277 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,320 tag people if if they're like kind of a layman 278 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,799 in a sense, because I don't think it's right to 279 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,440 instigate pylons. I've been on the receiving end of pylons. 280 00:11:56,519 --> 00:11:58,320 I can handle it, because you know, I feel like 281 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,679 my feelings shriveled up and died being in space. So 282 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:04,480 it's just like, Okay, this is just another one. But 283 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 you know a lot of people simply can't handle that. 284 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,440 And I just simply don't want to be a human 285 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,320 being who is instructing ellegion and the people to go 286 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,519 after somebody, so I don't I don't tag these people. 287 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,600 So I made a point of not tagging these individuals 288 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,399 in my commentary about the issue because I knew that 289 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:22,559 what they'd done hadn't sensed one of people, and I 290 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:24,799 knew that it wouldn't end well for them. So she 291 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,919 was Jingle Jangles was losing her ever loving mind on 292 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Instagram and tagging me and these like just unhemen, Oh 293 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:34,919 my gosh, she experienced violence. 294 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if I knew that, but she said 295 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,519 that she did not say that. Really, yes she did. 296 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So for anyone who's you know, not not 297 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,519 seen it, which the clip is everywhere now, which humorously 298 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,639 I said to Pearl. Actually after the whole thing, she 299 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,720 phoned me and she was like, oh my god, it's 300 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:55,039 outlaw and I said, yeah, nothing in this is super 301 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,399 viral though, which makes me. You know, if you're going 302 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,840 to do something like this, you do in a way, 303 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,759 always want to have viral movements. If it really has 304 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,399 gone to absolute shiit like this had. You know, if 305 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:07,559 it was a meaningful conversation, then fine, you don't need 306 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,919 anything viral. But this had obviously devolved, and it's like, 307 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,840 well you kind of want to get your money's worth, right, Yeah, 308 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,240 So that cup ended up going viral. And it's just 309 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:18,960 this unhinged lady just shouting at me. Why do I 310 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,480 just get shouted at? Actually this is sath that. This 311 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:25,360 is like my life got shouted up by Jack Murphy 312 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,159 and you are here and I get shot up by 313 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:28,039 Jingle Jangles. 314 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: It's like, it's just my life. 315 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 316 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: As you know, I am a chronic insomniac. I have 317 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:38,000 trouble sleeping a lot, and that's partly because of who 318 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,399 I am, partly because of menopause. But this stuff, this 319 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,759 Healthy Cell stuff them sleep Bomb you guys. I love 320 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:48,440 it and it actually works because you know other stuff 321 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,120 that are taken in the past, it's like a pill 322 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:52,480 or whatever. It takes a long time to digest this stuff. 323 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:55,039 It gets right into your bloodstream. It absorbs one hundred 324 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,720 and sixty seven percent faster than pills, and it's just awesome. 325 00:13:58,759 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: It works. 326 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: And when you're trying to sleep, you don't want to wait. 327 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,879 You just want to go to sleep, you know what 328 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:07,120 I mean, and stay asleep right. And this stuff has 329 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,840 all the stuff in it. This is what healthy Cell 330 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,279 is so wonderful at doing, is they combine all the 331 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,639 things that you right into. 332 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:17,759 Speaker 3: This is how many pills are in that. 333 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:20,639 Speaker 1: Packet packet of goo, which is yummy, yummy goo. I 334 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:23,000 swear I could eat more than one, but I don't. 335 00:14:23,039 --> 00:14:25,360 I try to refrain. But anyways, it's great stuff. 336 00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: It actually works. 337 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,519 Speaker 1: They have a line of other stuff that they got, 338 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:30,639 hair stuff, They've got you know, regular vitamins, but this 339 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:32,879 stuff for sleep specifically is fantastic. 340 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: So encourage everybody, and it's cherry flavored. Cherry flavored. 341 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,639 Speaker 2: All you need to do is go to healthy sell 342 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 dot com slash chicks and when you use code chicks, 343 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,320 you get twenty percent off your first order. Try it, 344 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,000 try or try one of their other products. 345 00:14:46,039 --> 00:14:47,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all amazing, all of them. 346 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: So I'm always curious about people's backgrounds because I have 347 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:58,399 a I have our middle kid is your age, and 348 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,480 so I have two older kids and I have a 349 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,080 one that's been getting ready to turn thirteen, and so 350 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,039 we have a thirty three year old and twenty eight 351 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,639 year old. And then I think you're about twenty eight, 352 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:11,279 aren't you. You're like, well, no, you're closing it on thirty. 353 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:13,480 You're closing it on thirty, aren't you? Something like that? 354 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:15,679 Speaker 3: I think because you're a nineteen ninety three baby. I'm sorry, 355 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,000 is that right? Nineteen ninety three baby? 356 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,919 Speaker 4: That should be an Internet secret. I don't know how 357 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,759 people have found this out. 358 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes, anyways, I like you up this year. 359 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm like Wikipedia people, and it may not be accurate, 360 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 because lord knows, the things on Wikipedia said about us 361 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,159 a long time ago probably. 362 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:30,799 Speaker 3: Weren't all wave true. 363 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,799 Speaker 1: But you're probably around the same age as like our 364 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,720 middle kid. And so I'm just fascinated by the fact 365 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,159 that you have escaped the mentality that a lot of 366 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,600 I say younger people because we're old so I can 367 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:45,480 say that, but a lot of younger people have fallen 368 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,360 into and that is like this woke you know, like, 369 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:52,919 oh my god, I'm a victim because the patriarchy, all 370 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,919 the stuff that like the women nowadays, you know, fall 371 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,879 into you, because we've seen it. I mean, I'm fifty 372 00:15:57,919 --> 00:16:01,799 one and so we've seen women over the past several 373 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,919 decades sort of I don't want to say degrade, but 374 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,679 just the ideology of feminism, Like we just think feminism 375 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,639 is a complete and utter joke now because now it's 376 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:14,320 like free the nipple and don't look at my booze, 377 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,679 but look at my boos but don't but do and 378 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,399 it's like there's We've we've had many discussions on our 379 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,080 podcast about feminism and just what it's turned into. And 380 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,480 I'm just fascinated when I see women like you, because 381 00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:27,120 I'm like, God, how did she like, where do you 382 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,879 come from? And how do you how do you not 383 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,639 how are you not like all these other girls like that? 384 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:37,360 Because you're an anomaly. Right, you're the exception to what 385 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:40,159 everybody else is and how how did that happen? 386 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,919 Speaker 3: How did that happen? 387 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,559 Speaker 1: Like that? 388 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: And then also explain when you became a doctor? 389 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Well, in answer to the first question, like, 390 00:16:50,679 --> 00:16:52,159 un ironically, I really like my dad. 391 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, he and I just get on really well. 392 00:16:54,039 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: And I think that I've had really really awesome, strong 393 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:59,919 parental role models. So Okay, my parents are it's kind 394 00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:03,039 of funny. They're very traditional, but not traditional. So the 395 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,680 way that they have I guess structured their household has 396 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,279 given me a really good example of what it looks 397 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:11,279 like when you have people who can simultaneously fit into 398 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,400 that sort of traditional structure of a family unit but 399 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,440 also both be business owning, very driven, go orientated human beings. 400 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,720 And my mom is like, I probably can't swear on 401 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:22,359 your show. 402 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: But no, you swear. We swear all the time. 403 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: She's a badass, Like she's just she's just so cool. 404 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:31,279 And I think that that's probably the person that I 405 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:32,960 have had to look up to my whole life. So 406 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,680 it was child I mean really in my house, there 407 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:37,640 was absolutely no way that I was going to get 408 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,200 away with being like a raging wooster, because I think 409 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,039 my family would have just mocked me until I decided 410 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,440 to stop. I mean, I think that it's just in part, yeah, 411 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,680 like I said, due to good parenting, having strong figures 412 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,680 around me, But also I think that I don't like 413 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,880 the tribalism that comes along with a lot of this 414 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,599 type of stuff. I think that where I diverge, once 415 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,480 again from a lot of other people who are my 416 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:03,359 age and a lot of other women, is the fact 417 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,160 that I look at things from sort of like this 418 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,279 top down perspective, that where I say, how does how 419 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:13,599 would society function if we had this utopian feminist society? 420 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:15,359 And I don't think it would function too well. I 421 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,599 don't want to see the boogeyman behind every corner. I 422 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,440 don't want to view every man through the lens of oh, 423 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:25,079 he's you know, going to potentially be somebody who's harmful, YadA, YadA. 424 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,160 And I think that you got to take experiences as 425 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,839 they come. So, like I said, in twenty twenty two, 426 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,400 that was a fundamentally. 427 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: Distressing year for me, a pivotal year. 428 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,839 Speaker 4: A lot of my opinions change, or a lot of 429 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,279 my opinions were sort of they become a lot more nuanced, 430 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,880 and so now, like I said, I do see some 431 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:43,920 things from the feminist vantage point when I hadn't previously. 432 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,960 But it doesn't mean that I throw out the entire 433 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,519 you know, the baby with the bathwater type of thing. 434 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:49,680 I'm not going to throw everything away because now I 435 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:52,000 kind of get why they're right in some respects. 436 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 5: So I think, I don't know. 437 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:55,279 Speaker 4: I just I guess I just try to be a 438 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,240 human being that's like nice to other people. And if 439 00:18:57,279 --> 00:18:59,440 that means that I'm not a crazy wok feminist, then 440 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:59,920 so be it. 441 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have a good answer for 442 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,200 that because I've always just sort of not done. 443 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: What other No, that's I think that was a great answer, 444 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,640 I think, And you can tell like your parents probably 445 00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:12,799 held you accountable for things and if you have right, 446 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,680 I think that's a huge part of it from a 447 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,279 from a parental perspective. Just hearing that answer that it 448 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,640 was a great ant. No, it's that answers a lot 449 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,920 from me. I think it really does. And just having 450 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,480 a strong both male and female role model in your life, 451 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:30,599 that's your parents, for Christ's sake, it. 452 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: Makes such a difference. 453 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:34,319 Speaker 2: It makes such a huge difference, but I still need 454 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:35,640 to know where you got the doctor timele. 455 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: So, because I do a lot of coverage of child 456 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:44,519 safeguarding and child safety measures, it's led me to meet 457 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,039 some really really interesting people who also function much more 458 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:51,559 heavily in the space in that space, and there is 459 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,519 one professor in particular who I mentioned. I covered some 460 00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:58,359 of his work in one of the videos that I 461 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,160 made about I believe it was. There's an organization called 462 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,279 Prostasia and they sort of they style themselves as a 463 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,759 child safeguarding organization, but really they're kind of a front 464 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,119 for pedophilia, which is really sad, and they it's. 465 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,559 Speaker 5: So gross actually, because a lot. 466 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: Of people look to them sort of the organization to 467 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:17,000 emulate when it comes to all of this, like, oh, 468 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,079 look at these people. These are the virtuous pedophiles that 469 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,920 don't offend, when in reality, I'm pretty sure their manager 470 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:25,440 is like an unapologetic yes, I'm attracted to kids, Yes 471 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,640 I'm going to always be attracted to kids, and basically, 472 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,440 you know, suck it type of god. One of the 473 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,240 guys who is covering this, one of this, this professor 474 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,240 who I don't know if he would like me naming him, 475 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,440 so I. 476 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: Guess I won't, but he's awesome. He does really great work. 477 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: He reached out to me and he was like, oh, 478 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,160 you know, hey, we ended up connecting and he's super funny. 479 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,640 I believe he studied actually at the same university as 480 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,519 me and Melbourne. 481 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: So that's really cool. 482 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,839 Speaker 4: And he said, you know, it's my life go to 483 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,839 see you become a doctor. And I was like, oh, yeah, 484 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:55,240 why is that And he's like, I don't know. Someone 485 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,039 has to call you doctor Watson. So he was actually 486 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:02,200 the one who submitted me for an honorary doctorate with 487 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,480 the work that I do in regards to child safeguarding 488 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:09,079 and whatnot. And yes, it's. 489 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,839 Speaker 3: So you're doctor Sidney Watson. 490 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: It's kind of meme. 491 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind I mean it's funny because when people 492 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:19,119 try to discredit it, they can't because it's technically correct, 493 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,720 and for me, it's just hilarious. You know, I just 494 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,960 get some to force people to call me that, and 495 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,599 then it's funny because once again, after this Vice panel, 496 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:28,440 you do have the backing and forth thing with the 497 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480 people that were on the panel, especially Eli, who you know, 498 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:32,680 to Eli's credit, as much as I don't like Eli 499 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,240 and Eli pedals drugs and what have you. Eli can 500 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:38,160 handle it at least, like when you're backing and forth 501 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,400 thing on the internet, which I respect that and tried 502 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,559 to be like, oh, this is this person is pretending 503 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,319 to be a doctor. 504 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: Vice. Do you know this person is pretending to be 505 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,400 a doctor. I'm like, does Vice know what you're pretending 506 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,000 to be? Eli? 507 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 4: So curiosity perfect, but you know it's yeah, it definitelyly. 508 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: It ruffles feathers. 509 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: It's very funny whenever people write articles about me when 510 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,440 I do things that are inflammatory and they say doctor Watson, 511 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,759 then I. 512 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: Say, yes, I love that. I think it's like that. 513 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:09,279 Speaker 4: It's a very unexciting story behind the doctor thing story. 514 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:13,039 Speaker 2: Well, you gotta tell us about the whole airplane fiasco 515 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,680 because this also got your law attention. This was last year, right, 516 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:16,680 sometime last year? 517 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 5: Yes, this was October. 518 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:22,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So give people the background for those folks 519 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:25,799 who haven't heard about your miserable flight experience and why 520 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,599 it became such a huge story given the background. 521 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 5: So, actually that was the flight coming home from New York. 522 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: Uh, and I had to be on this specific flight 523 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,039 because I needed to get back because like I said, 524 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,480 I was flying back to Australia in like two days, 525 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:41,039 so I really didn't have any sort of wiggle room 526 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,720 on the issue. So anyway, so I jump on my 527 00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:46,759 flight and I'm troddling on down to the back of 528 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,759 the plane and I see these two very large humans 529 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:51,519 and I'm in the middle seat and. 530 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 5: I thought, no, this is I refuse. I just I 531 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,880 don't want to so some I just thought I'll be 532 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,240 put light. 533 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: So I sat down and the thing killed me was 534 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,400 that behind me in the final row were these like 535 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,279 group of like kind of cute, like foreign, like I 536 00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:10,920 don't know, Eastern Europeans sounding boys, And I was like, 537 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,880 you have to be kidding me, Like this is not 538 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:15,319 happening to me right now, I'm gonna sit between two 539 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,799 behemoth humans and just wished while these cute boys behind 540 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,440 me are like ha ha, probably watching this, just thinking 541 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,839 this is what you get, lady. So I'm screaming internally 542 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,079 as soon as I sit down. And the trouble was 543 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:29,200 that it was a full flight. So a lot of 544 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,359 people have said to me, why didn't you get an alec, 545 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:33,240 Why didn't you do this, Why didn't you do that? Well, 546 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,519 I had to be on the flight. There was no 547 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:39,279 other seats available because then basically what happened was, you know, 548 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:40,960 I'm sitting on the plane for three and a half 549 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,559 four hours, because that's how long it takes to get 550 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,240 back to Texas. 551 00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 5: And the air hostesses or were the air host is 552 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,839 that what the male ones are called. 553 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 4: I don't know. 554 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 5: The flight attendance. 555 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: This flight attendant is walking every so often, cleaning, Yes, 556 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,720 do you need anything? 557 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: Whiskey? 558 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,319 Speaker 4: I don't know, got the white flag waving. So anyway, 559 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960 he was very kind. He kept leaning over and saying 560 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,480 do you need me help? And I'm I'm sitting here 561 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:09,599 like people need to understand, like I'm wedged between this 562 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,200 very obese person on the window seat and the very 563 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:13,759 obese person in the aisle seat. 564 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: Were they together? 565 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: Yes, there were siblings because at one stage, because people 566 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,759 kept saying afterwards after the story blew up, they said, Sidney, 567 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,559 why didn't you ask to swap? 568 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:23,039 Speaker 5: And I did. 569 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: I turned to the to the man and because I 570 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200 believe his sister had headphones in, and so I turned 571 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,359 to him and I said, do you want. 572 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 5: To swap seats? And he goes, no, that's my sister. 573 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: I sit next to her all the time, and I 574 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:38,359 was like, yes, but I don't I don't particularly want to, 575 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,200 so so he wouldn't swap suits with me, which kind 576 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,720 of sucked. And then I started raide sweeting just because 577 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,640 I was like, for God's sake, because these things, these things, 578 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:50,960 it's so funny. I fly a lot, and these things 579 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960 do happen, right you do you sit next to the 580 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,759 smelly person or the person who's encroaching upon your space 581 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,400 because their legs keep drifting over into your space? Fine, 582 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,759 you know, I think that that sort of you sign 583 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,119 us contract in a way when you go out into public, 584 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,480 and you can expect these things to happen. And most people, 585 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,480 most people are very kind about it, and they'll be like, 586 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:09,400 oh my god, they're horrified to know that they're doing 587 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,519 these things, whereas these people just didn't seem to care. 588 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:13,000 And so I thought, well, if you don't care, then 589 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,839 I don't care. So I'm rage tweeting and my followers 590 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,319 are just loving it. They are having the greatest time. 591 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,759 They're like, sitting, this is the funniest thing I've ever read. 592 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:23,599 And I'm trying to take photos, not because I wanted 593 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,880 to shame anybody, like jokes aside. I really didn't want 594 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,599 to shame anybody, but I wanted to demonstrate what was happening, 595 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,119 because everyone on Twitter goes. 596 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 5: They didn't halpen. I don't believe you. Well, I have 597 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:34,880 picture evidence. 598 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: I have pictorials of what was going on, and you 599 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,720 didn't someone to. 600 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: You didn't take pictures of their faces. 601 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 5: It wasn't their faces. 602 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: It was just like our arms and like I know, 603 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,599 like the kind of the rolls on their ead. 604 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:48,599 Speaker 4: To show the arm rolls that were sort of you know, 605 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:51,240 moving over into into. 606 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: My script, but see armors down. 607 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: My legs were crushed together. 608 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: And again people didn't realize this, but I had hip 609 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,079 surgery years ago because as I'd torn a ligament in 610 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,920 some cartilage, and so if my I have like really 611 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,640 limited mobility on the right side of my body, and 612 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,519 so if my hips are being squished like this, you 613 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,480 know my legs are being pressed in. The pain that 614 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,440 causes me is actually quite significant. And so I'm sitting 615 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,759 there for three and a half hours, like wedged, leaning 616 00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,599 over because if I was sitting back, my body was 617 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,319 crushed and if I sat for then I got a 618 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440 bit of space. Like I said, I'm just rage tweeting 619 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,359 the whole time and that went viral. And then as 620 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,359 I'm flying out to go to Australia, I'm getting all 621 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,680 these like I'm sitting at the airport getting request request 622 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:36,799 requests for interview and I'm like, oh my god, now I'm. 623 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: About to get onto sixteen hour and people and some 624 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:42,039 people were mad about this. 625 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,599 Speaker 1: Some people were maud, oh, yeah, because it's because it's 626 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,119 fat phobic, right, you can't say that about fat people, 627 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,839 because we've like glorified the We've glorified obesity in this 628 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,720 contry because thirty percent of us, what a third of 629 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,319 us are obese now and you can't and we got 630 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,359 to glorify that because you know, it's cool to be 631 00:26:59,519 --> 00:26:59,920 fat now. 632 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,279 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, the fat acceptance movement I think has 633 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,640 a lot to answer for because as a general rule, 634 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:09,599 I don't disagree with feeling good in your own body. 635 00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,519 So in fact, I was just having a conversation with 636 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,839 a girlfriend of mine last night who is beautiful. She's beautiful, 637 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,119 and she's extremely fit. She works out all the time, 638 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:18,920 and she was saying to me that one of her 639 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,319 biggest concerns is that she doesn't have cleavage. She has 640 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200 basically she doesn't have a flat chest. I wouldn't say 641 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,599 that at all, but she thinks that she has a 642 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359 flat chest and she's very self conscious. And I was like, dude, 643 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,319 you got two options because you're not gonna ever get implants, 644 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:34,960 are you. She's like, no, they're so bad for you. 645 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:36,480 I don't want that, and I say great, So your 646 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,880 other option besides implants, then is just learning to like yourself. 647 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,599 And if you can achieve that, I don't have to 648 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,559 tell you. So, I mean, this is the thing, is like, 649 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:44,039 I've got. 650 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 5: No problem, no problem whatsoever with going Oh am I too? 651 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:49,400 Am I short? And I don't like it? But I'm 652 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,079 going to accept it? 653 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: Fine? 654 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: Am I tall? And I don't like it whatever? Like 655 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,319 accept things about. 656 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: Yourself that you just fundamentally can't change, but you can 657 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:58,519 change your body weight. And I don't like the fact 658 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:03,759 that it has become this thing socially where being unhealthy 659 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,799 is the new healthy. 660 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: That's so it's so clown world. 661 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,799 Speaker 4: It's so backwards that I think it's bizarre that we 662 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,119 live in a period of time where if you're dieting 663 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,000 and trying to ameliorate your life, people will be like, 664 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,480 what are. 665 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 5: You fat phobic? Are you racist? 666 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 4: Because racism is grounded in fat phobia, Like, no, this 667 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,279 person wants to actually live to see their kids grow 668 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,519 up potato. 669 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,079 Speaker 5: So it's it's frustrating. And yes, I did get a 670 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,119 lot of hate. I got so much hate. 671 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,759 Speaker 3: Because you're so privileged. You're so privileged, and then. 672 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,079 Speaker 4: Because I'm privileged exactly, and I'm a white What am 673 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,240 I a white Australian that lives in a bubble? 674 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:40,279 Speaker 5: I'm so many things that this. 675 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So at the end of the day, like 676 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,880 do I feel bad for the people on the airplane. 677 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,599 I don't from the vantage point that they should have 678 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400 had to buy an extra seat. This is what made 679 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,920 people so cross, is my I guess thesis was these 680 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,359 people should have to buy an extra seat or they 681 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,240 shouldn't be allowed on the plane. And in fact, every 682 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,920 airline has requirements for what you need to do with 683 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,680 people who are extremely overweight, because in the event of 684 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,759 an emergency, in the event of you say that you're 685 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,920 sitting next to somebody who like me, has you know, issues, 686 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,079 and they need their actual space that you know, they 687 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:16,640 have a hit problem or whatever, and they need to 688 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,240 actually be in their bloody seat I've paid for my seat. 689 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000 I didn't pay for half a seat. So yes, it's 690 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,640 it's sad that the airlines don't enforce these policies. But 691 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200 greater than that, maybe we should be putting some emphasis 692 00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,000 on not letting people be balloon people. 693 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: Just did you get didn't you get like you got 694 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,880 some sort of restitution from the airline? 695 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 5: Did you not? 696 00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: How did that work out? 697 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: So I kept saying online again, joking leagues, I don't 698 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,279 think people understand Australian humors. Sometimes I kept saying, I 699 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:46,240 want reparations. 700 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,039 Speaker 5: Oh my god, you know, and then and then these 701 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,960 articles will pop up. 702 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: Oh doctor Sidney Watson, American comment Australian American commentator, I 703 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:57,680 wants reparations. 704 00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: From American airlines. And I'm going, yeah, fine, let's just 705 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,319 run with this. 706 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: So I'm I want reparations, and even I have like 707 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,799 there's a there's a clip of Tyrus on I can't 708 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,559 remember the show that he does on Fox five. 709 00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: Yes, he's like, give the girl the reparation. She's like 710 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,680 have yeah, oh power Tour. And I'm like, I'm just kidding, okay, yes, 711 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,519 I want reparations anyway, So they end up giving me 712 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,480 one hundred and fifty dollar a flight credit, which I 713 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,400 was like, and then I took that and I tweeted 714 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,759 and I said, I will sincerely like no joke. 715 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: You give this to somebody for a gym membership or. 716 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: For personal training, and then I get more hate articles 717 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880 written about me almost Oh my gosh. I want people 718 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,400 to be healthy, eating seed oils your potatoes good. Great? 719 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, so funny. 720 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: Are kind of absurd though. 721 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: It's so absurd because like you get on a plane 722 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,839 and then they get so mad if you like have 723 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,319 your seat back like that little inch. The stuartss are 724 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,039 like all pissed off and they're like, you gotta get 725 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,000 your seat like back up, and and then you're like 726 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160 drowning in two people. And they don't see a problem 727 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,400 with that. 728 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 729 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: You're like seriously, like what it's absurd? 730 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did like though. I did like that the 731 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,599 fight attendants checked in. That was really kind of them 732 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:13,440 because there was nothing that they could do. They even 733 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,440 said at the end, they were so funny. One of 734 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,400 the men, the man who kept coming past and asking 735 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,839 me if I needed anything. 736 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 5: He said, I tried to find a child to swap 737 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160 with you. I tried to find a child. 738 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,519 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well that's sweet. 739 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very nice. I was like, yeah, you know, 740 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,640 I was singing to myself, what parent would just give 741 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:30,160 you the. 742 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: Give their child that? Yeah, I volunteer this tribute exactly, Like, so. 743 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,839 Speaker 4: What was your traumatic episode in life? Well, it's poor. 744 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,759 Let's just feel bad for these kids, honestly. But they 745 00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:45,400 also said they would have given me free boos. 746 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: I'm sad. 747 00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: I'm not a big drinker, but I think that was 748 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,880 the This the situation where I may have been guzzling, 749 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,640 like the little tiny vodka bottles, just bringing them. 750 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,519 Speaker 3: Let's go boys, When did you turn into an alcoholic? 751 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: It was like, this was the traumatic episode changed my life. 752 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960 I probably would have gotten belligerent though, so then it 753 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 would have been over. 754 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: L for a whole different reason. 755 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: But at least at least this didn't happen on your 756 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,319 sixteen hour flight because miserable. 757 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would have been. 758 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,759 Speaker 4: A very thin couple on my flight to Australia. I 759 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:24,519 think I thinked you know the flying gods that the 760 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,680 people go to the gym exactly? 761 00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, what's next for you? Do you have any other panels? 762 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,519 Coming up. No, I think I need you're paneled out. 763 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,599 Speaker 4: What I what I really want to put together though, 764 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,039 And he did say this because I make videos about 765 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,319 all these incidences just because my audience then gets an 766 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,160 insight into what actually was happening. And he did say 767 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,039 in the video I made about the Vice thing, I 768 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,119 would love to actually talk to some feminists that are 769 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880 not crazy, because I know that they're not crazy feminists 770 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200 out there, and some a couple of people reached out 771 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,480 said I'd actually happily do a panel, and I thought, cool, 772 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,880 let's actually put something together that's valuable rather than just shrieking. 773 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,720 I don't know, so no, no, no panels coming up 774 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,920 for me. I just really I just need a break 775 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,200 actually from craziness and crazy people. I want to focus 776 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920 this year on some female outreach, so doing some things 777 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,720 that relate to getting women away from that side of 778 00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,240 the island, perhaps towards the center or even the right wing, 779 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,839 because I think I don't know if you ladies agree 780 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,000 with this, but something that does bother me about the 781 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,480 space that we're in is that I feel like a 782 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,039 lot of women get alienated, and it's largely just because yes, 783 00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:32,720 there's a lot of humor that goes on that I 784 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:34,480 think you have to have a really specific bent to 785 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,759 appreciate that come from some of our male commentators. And 786 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,039 that's fine, that's humor, it is what it is. But 787 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,680 there's some like legitimately not great opinions. I think they 788 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,559 get espoused relating to women, and I think women are awesome. 789 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,279 It's and I don't like that they think the way 790 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,720 that they think about society and about being a woman 791 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,000 and all this type of thing, and I'd like them 792 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:56,880 to feel a lot more comfortable maybe seeing things from 793 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,480 our vantage point a little bit. So that's kind of 794 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,400 what I want to do this year. 795 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,759 Speaker 5: But no more. 796 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: I think that's great. 797 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Like we've always said, because we've we've sort of been 798 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:06,599 a I always say that we're the we're kind of 799 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,400 like the island of misfit toys. Yeah, when it comes 800 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,079 to conservatism, we've for fourteen years we've been doing this, 801 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,599 and we've never really felt like we fit in Sydney. 802 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 3: So I hear you on that. 803 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,159 Speaker 1: I think it's perhaps that's because we're women. I don't know, maybe, 804 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,360 like maybe I said, maybe it's not because but that 805 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:24,599 may be one of the reasons. 806 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: And so I get that. 807 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I really do, and so 808 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,880 I think that's brilliant what you're doing. 809 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially if you have some opinions that 810 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,119 don't necessarily fit in with the status quo, because again, 811 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,039 the tribalism is just it's it's annoying. 812 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:41,199 Speaker 5: It's just frankly annoying. 813 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: And once again, this is another interesting thing that again 814 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,800 I'm sure that you find this too, if you take 815 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,559 leave of the say traditional conservative or right wing or 816 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,119 whatever talking points, we always get accused of being a feminist, 817 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,360 and I just think, no, you don't have to be 818 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,320 a feminist and subscribe to third wave feminism to believe that, 819 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,440 you know, women are valuable and awesome and that they 820 00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,840 contribute so much to society. But also in something that 821 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960 I'm realizing, and it's so funny because I think a 822 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,920 lot of my girlfriends and I are having these moments, 823 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,800 like one after the other, we're all kind of like 824 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,400 having these huh moments together where like women operate differently 825 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,280 to men like I'm sorry, and that's okay, yeah. 826 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it is okay yeah, and sometimes be structured 827 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,840 around that. 828 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, right, And sometimes it's it's not 829 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239 even what you say, but the way that you say 830 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,880 it that's off putting to some right wing people and 831 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,639 they don't they're very uncomfortable with that. And so especially 832 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,159 coming from you know, like you're a woman, you're supposed 833 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,440 to act a certain way, or be a certain way, 834 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,079 even have a certain age, You're supposed to be a 835 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:41,519 certain way. 836 00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, we're not that way. Sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, 837 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:47,519 so I hear you, totally hear you on that. 838 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Sidney, tell our audience the best places that 839 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,679 they can find and follow you. 840 00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 5: Well, if you want to be offended perpetually, I'm on 841 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:00,440 that's where. 842 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,119 Speaker 4: That's where I let my bitchiness just come alive and 843 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,599 do its thing. But Sydney out Watson on Twitter. If 844 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:08,480 you want to hear mean takes and if you want 845 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,480 to hear the thought out nice ones, you true about 846 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,239 Sidney Watson. Although I'm trying again, I'm sure you ladies 847 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,840 can relate to this. This year, one of my biggest 848 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,199 things is to basically move into the cultural space a 849 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,960 little bit away from the political space, because I just 850 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,480 feel like covering there's so many other topics and other things, 851 00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,320 so I'm moving into like I've just started a gaming channel. 852 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,239 I don't know if your audience is interested stuff like that, 853 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,920 but talking about like the more cultural things rather than 854 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,480 the political stuff because covers so much doom and gloom 855 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,199 so much. 856 00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, people like. 857 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: The doom and gloom. Then then I'm here for it. 858 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,920 That's where I am. 859 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: That's fantastic. 860 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,159 Speaker 5: Good for you, Good for you. 861 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,039 Speaker 2: Well, it's been great to get the inside scoop about 862 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,039 the panel and about the flight, because that's what we 863 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,039 were really hoping to find out about, and it's been 864 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,039 so fun to hear it straight from the horse's mouth. 865 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,559 We really appreciate you being on the show with us. 866 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 5: Well, thank you. 867 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: Great talking. 868 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. 869 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: Definitely fun. Great to meet you, and we hope to 870 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,480 talk to you very soon in the future. 871 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,559 Speaker 5: Thanks for watching. 872 00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,559 Speaker 2: We'll be back in January sixth, so make sure to 873 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:06,760 tune in and bring a friend 874 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: Follow us and subscribe on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever 875 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,239 you get your podcasts.