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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you and I are really anyone pictures a star dying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in a supernova, we're usually imagining just the

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<v Speaker 2>most extreme catastrophic event.

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<v Speaker 3>Possible, ultimate cosmic destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, a massive, completely chaotic mess. It's this expanding

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<v Speaker 2>cloud of superheated debris. And I love the term astrophysicists use.

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<v Speaker 2>They say it has a texture like a giant turbulent cauliflower.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great visual and it's accurate. That's the standard

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<v Speaker 3>picture of stellar violence we expect to see.

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<v Speaker 2>But the sources you've shared with us today, they focus

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<v Speaker 2>on this one astronomical object that just it throws that

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<v Speaker 2>entire visual model right out the window completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called pop thirty. And this thing, this remnant, is

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect visual opposite of chaos. It looks like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like an explosion that was frozen right in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the burst.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect description.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not defined by swirling clouds at all, but by

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<v Speaker 2>these incredibly long, straight, almost almost geometrically precise filaments, all

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<v Speaker 2>radiating outward from one single point.

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<v Speaker 3>And this exploration it's really a perfect example of connecting

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<v Speaker 3>centuries old observations from the sky with the most cutting

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<v Speaker 3>edge computational physics we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have today, a real bridge between the old and new.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, our whole mission here is to figure out this paradox.

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<v Speaker 3>How can a stellar explosion, one of the most energetic

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<v Speaker 3>events in the entire universe, end up creating something with

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<v Speaker 3>such incredible structural order, right, So we need to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out not just what happened to the star that created,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a white dwarf, but why the debris cloud

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<v Speaker 3>it left behind looks so radically different from pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>every other remnant we study.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a deep dive into stellar failure.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and how that failure, weirdly enough became the

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<v Speaker 3>necessary first step for creating this spectacular geometry.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where it gets for me, just genuinely fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about physics on this immense cosmic scale, with

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<v Speaker 2>material moving faster than any rocket ship we've ever dreamed of.

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<v Speaker 3>Building on believable speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>But the key mechanism, the thing that explains Path thirty's

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<v Speaker 2>unique precise shape, is the exact same principle of fluid

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<v Speaker 2>dynamics that creates the classic iconic shape of a mushroom

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<v Speaker 2>cloud right here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same physics, just on a scale that's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to even comprehend.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into it. Let's explore the really complex

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<v Speaker 2>astrophysics that turned what should have been this violent explosion

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<v Speaker 2>into a geometrically structured whimper, a very beautiful whimper. We

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<v Speaker 2>really have to start with that visual contra because it

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<v Speaker 2>is so so striking. It puzzled astronomers for decades, for

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<v Speaker 2>a long long time. If you pull up images of

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<v Speaker 2>remnants from what we call typical type ees supernovae, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of where the star is completely obliterated, you

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<v Speaker 2>see exactly what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>The cauliflower.

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<v Speaker 2>The cauliflower, Yeah, thick, churning, chaotic clouds of ejecta. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect image of massive cosmic turbulence and mixing gas.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's supposed to happen when a star completely

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<v Speaker 2>and violently tears itself apart.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to appreciate the energy involved there. A

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<v Speaker 3>standard type E S supernova, I mean, it releases an

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<v Speaker 3>amount of energy and milliseconds that's equivalent to what our

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<v Speaker 3>Sun will put out over its entire multi billion year lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just an insane amount of power.

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<v Speaker 3>It's incredible. And that sheer instantaneous energy churns up all

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<v Speaker 3>the ejected material so intensely that any little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>structure it might have had at the beginning is just

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<v Speaker 3>it's ripped apart. It's thoroughly mixed, and that's what leads

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<v Speaker 3>to that characteristic chaotic mess.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the explosions we rely on right as

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<v Speaker 2>cosmic yardsticks we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We call them standard candles because their brightness is so predictable,

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<v Speaker 3>which lets us measure distances across the universe. But the

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<v Speaker 3>debris fields they leave behind are anything but standard in

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<v Speaker 3>their structure. They are, you know, textbook models of total

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic chaos with Then you turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Your telescope to path thirty and it is just so

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<v Speaker 2>distinctively lacking any of those chaotic signatures. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>cauliflower at all, not even close. Instead, you get these

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly long, sustained straight filaments. They just they radiate outward

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<v Speaker 2>from a central point. The researchers described it perfectly. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they said, it's like the trails from a sparkler

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<v Speaker 2>that have been frozen midburst.

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<v Speaker 3>And that appearance right away it signals a huge anomaly.

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<v Speaker 3>For years, astronomers really struggle to explain the structure precisely

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<v Speaker 3>because it defied all the standard high energy supernova models.

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<v Speaker 2>The question must have been, why is there any structure at.

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<v Speaker 3>All, exactly and how did it stay so straight, so

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<v Speaker 3>linear across these vast distances and over so much time.

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<v Speaker 3>What's so fascinating here is that we can trace PAW

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<v Speaker 3>thirty's timeline way back in history. We now know that

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<v Speaker 3>the event itself corresponds to something that Chinese and Japanese

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<v Speaker 3>astronomers observed way back in the year eleven eighty one.

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<v Speaker 3>They called it a guest star.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about almost nine hundred and fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>of observation here, starting with ancient records and leading all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up to the Hi Ris images. We have today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, okay, So if the event was observed back then,

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<v Speaker 2>do those historical records tell us anything about what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of explosion it was. Did it look like a normal

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<v Speaker 2>supernova to them?

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a crucial piece of the puzzle. The

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<v Speaker 3>historical records actually support the idea that this was an

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<v Speaker 3>unusual event even back then. The brightness records from eleven

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one. They indicate that this guest star, which we

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<v Speaker 3>now link to PAW thirty with very high confidence, it

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<v Speaker 3>was visible for many months. But this is the critical part.

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<v Speaker 3>It never got as bright as a standard fully detonating

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<v Speaker 2>Supernova ah so is dimmer.

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<v Speaker 3>It was notably dimmer. This suggests it had a lower

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<v Speaker 3>total energy release, or what we'd call a lower peak luminosity.

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<v Speaker 3>This observational fact is one of the key clues. The

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<v Speaker 3>explosion was powerful enough to be seen from Earth, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was not powerful enough to be one of these

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<v Speaker 3>full scale star obliterating events.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ancient astronomers gave us our first clue, a dimmer,

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<v Speaker 2>longer lasting blast, and modern astronomersy the aftermath a strangely

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<v Speaker 2>geometric remnant.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly that ninth century gap between the observation and the

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<v Speaker 3>final explanation really highlights how complex this problem was.

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<v Speaker 2>But the recent research, the work spearheaded by Eric Coughlin

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<v Speaker 2>and his team at Syracuse University, that's what finally provides

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<v Speaker 2>the unifying concept. It does, and the core finding is

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<v Speaker 2>just it's so simple and profound. The star tried to explode,

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't fully succeed.

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<v Speaker 3>That that is the critical transformative insight. The star did

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<v Speaker 3>not follow the textbook. It was an incomplete blast. This

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just a misfire. It's a specific, recognized class of

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<v Speaker 3>stellar death that creates the perfect conditions for this very unique,

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<v Speaker 3>very precise geometry.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that the explosion was a partial event,

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<v Speaker 2>a failure if you want to call it that.

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<v Speaker 3>A failure is a good word for it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what ultimately dictated the fluid physics of the remnant

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<v Speaker 2>we see today. If it had been a full scale

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<v Speaker 2>Type IAD detonation, there would be no Poth thirty, there would.

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<v Speaker 3>Just be another chaotic cauliflower cloud and the star itself

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<v Speaker 3>would be gone forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So the visual signature, this beautiful geometric order, is a

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<v Speaker 2>direct consequence of a failure in nuclear physics. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation that explains this whole nine hundred year old mystery.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and to really appreciate the details of that failure,

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<v Speaker 3>we should probably quickly walk through the standard type IA

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<v Speaker 3>process first, and then we can see exactly where POTH

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<v Speaker 3>thirty went off the rails.

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<v Speaker 2>Good idea. So where does this start?

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<v Speaker 3>It starts with a white dwarf. Pal thirty came from

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<v Speaker 3>a white dwarf, which is the super dense, extremely compact

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<v Speaker 3>core leftover after a star like our sun, runs out

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<v Speaker 3>of its nuclear fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the classic story of white dwarf is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be retired, right It just sits there quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>supported by something called electron degeneracy pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless unless it has a friend, a companion star. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's in a binary system, it can start pulling material

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<v Speaker 3>like hydrogen and helium from that companion.

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<v Speaker 2>It starts a creating mass exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it gathers enough mass, it creeps closer and

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<v Speaker 3>closer to this critical threshold called the chondraceccar limit that's

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<v Speaker 3>about one point four times the mass of our side.

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<v Speaker 2>And once it hits that limit, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Core can't resist gravity anymore. The pressure in the heat

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<v Speaker 3>becomes so immense that it triggers runaway carbon fusion deep

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<v Speaker 3>inside the star, and in.

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<v Speaker 2>A normal type event, that first little spark of ignition

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly turns into what's called a supersonic detonation wave.

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<v Speaker 3>Supersonic is the keyword there. It's a wave traveling faster

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<v Speaker 3>than the speed of sound through the star's material, like

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<v Speaker 3>a shock wave of fire a perfect analogy. That detonation

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<v Speaker 3>wave just sweeps through the entire star in a matter

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<v Speaker 3>of seconds, converting carbon and oxygen into heavier elements, mostly

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<v Speaker 3>nickel fifty six. This process concerns the whole white dwarf,

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<v Speaker 3>completely obliterating it and scattering all that newly forged material

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<v Speaker 3>across space.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what creates those chaotic debris clouds we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>The star is just gone bitterly destroyed. But Path thirty

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<v Speaker 2>star took a different path. This is what classifies it

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<v Speaker 2>as the distinct type IAX supernova. So what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>that detonation wave.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in the case of Path thirty and other Type

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<v Speaker 3>IX events, the initial nuclear burning did begin. It started

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<v Speaker 3>near the star surface in a process we call a deflagration.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of it like a fast moving flame front, not

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<v Speaker 3>a shock wave.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's burning, but it's subsonic, yes, slower than the.

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<v Speaker 3>Speed of sound exactly. And this is the crucial failure point.

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<v Speaker 3>That subsonic burning front, for whatever reason, failed to transition

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<v Speaker 3>into a full supersonic detonation wave that would have propagated

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<v Speaker 3>through the rest of the star.

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<v Speaker 2>It lit the fuse, but the bomb didn't go off properly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. The burning front stalled, or maybe it was

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<v Speaker 3>just too slow and inefficient, so instead of a complete

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<v Speaker 3>stellar detonation, you get this partial subsurface explosion. The source

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<v Speaker 3>material calls it a fizzle, which you know, is still

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<v Speaker 3>a tremendously powerful event by our standards, but on a

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic scale, it's a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>And the incredible immediate result of this fizzle is the

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<v Speaker 2>real key to path thirties geometry. The star itself wasn't destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the most important physical outcome. The star survived a

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<v Speaker 3>hypermassive white dwarf, profoundly shaken, partially burned, certainly changed by

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<v Speaker 3>and it is still sitting there intact at the very

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<v Speaker 3>center of the remnant today. Wow and this phenomenon, the

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<v Speaker 3>lower brightness of the explosion and the survival of the

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<v Speaker 3>IX supernovae. They're rare, you know. They only account for

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<v Speaker 3>a small fraction of all the white dwarf explosions we've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>It's a spectacular failure and it gives us this incredibly rare,

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<v Speaker 2>just a fizzle, where did all the energy come from

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<v Speaker 2>to launch this sustained outflow of material moving at fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kilometers per second. That speed is just immense This

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<v Speaker 2>vastly faster than the Earth orbits the Sun. A failed

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<v Speaker 2>over a long time, should it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a brilliant question, and it gets to the

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<v Speaker 3>after the failed blast. The energy source is a combination

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<v Speaker 3>star that's left over. Okay, so when that subsurface nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>burn happened. It created this massive, superheated, dense shell of

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<v Speaker 3>heavy elements, mostly near the stars surface. But because the

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<v Speaker 3>full detonation wave never happened, that heavy shell didn't just

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<v Speaker 3>fly off into space cleanly. Some of it fell back,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it expanded violently, and then, yes, a

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<v Speaker 3>a rebound effect exactly. The failed blast creates this massive

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<v Speaker 3>pressure wave that travels inward, bounces off the surviving still

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<v Speaker 3>intact core, and then rebounds as a hyper fast, outward

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<v Speaker 2>Like a cosmic pogo stick in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this intense shockwave, which is driven by the post

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<v Speaker 3>explosion thermal pressure and these fallback dynamics, it acts like

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<v Speaker 3>a cosmic cannon. It immediately starts launching an extraordinarily fast,

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<v Speaker 3>dense wind of that partially burned material out into space.

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<v Speaker 3>And this sustained stellar wind moving its speeds up to

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen thousand kilometers per second. That is the true engine

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<v Speaker 2>And we also know the composition, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>It was enriched with heavy elements.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely, the material being launched at these hypervelocities was

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a tremendously fast, heavy, and crucially a

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<v Speaker 2>dense stream of material being continuously shot outward from the

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<v Speaker 3>That's the perfect combination hypervelocity, high density, and sustained duration.

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<v Speaker 3>That sets the stage perfectly for the unique geometry, which

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<v Speaker 2>It really transforms the surviving white dwarf. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>a remnant anymore. It's become a perpetual high speed fluid injector.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's make that transition. Then we go from a

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<v Speaker 2>failure in nuclear physics to a success in fluid dynamics.

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<v Speaker 2>We have this surviving white dwarf. It's launching a wind

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen thousand kilometers per second. It's dense, it's rich

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<v Speaker 2>and heavy elements. When this dense, fast wind slams outward

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<v Speaker 2>into the lighter much much sparser gas that's just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>around in that area the interstellar medium. That surface where

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<v Speaker 2>they meet becomes a physics laboratory.

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<v Speaker 3>It does. That interface is where all the action happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where the characteristic Sparkler structure of Paul thirty is born.

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<v Speaker 3>From this point on, fluid dynamics dictates everything about the

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<v Speaker 2>And that meeting point where the dense fast stuff hits

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<v Speaker 2>the sparse slow stuff. It's not stable, is it not

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<v Speaker 2>at all?

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<v Speaker 3>It's highly unstable, and that inherent instability is the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about that first critical instability, the one

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<v Speaker 2>that connects this cosmic event to something we can actually

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<v Speaker 2>visualize here on Earth. The Raleigh Tailor instability or RT.

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<v Speaker 3>The Raley tailor instability is a really fundamental phenomenon in

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<v Speaker 3>fluid dynamics. It describes what happens when you have two

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<v Speaker 3>that's directed from the dense fluid toward the light fluid.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds technical, but the idea is simple.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, if a dense fluid pushes into a lighter fluid,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you have some acceleration force acting across that boundary,

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<v Speaker 3>the interface between them becomes unstable and the two fluids

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<v Speaker 2>And the classic macroscopic example that everyone knows, even they

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<v Speaker 2>of a mushroom cloud from a nuclear explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct that iconic mushroom shape is driven almost entirely by

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<v Speaker 3>RT instability. The intense heat of the initial blast creates

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<v Speaker 3>this massive bubble of hot, low density gas inside.

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<v Speaker 2>The fireball, and hot air rises.

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<v Speaker 3>Right it rises rapidly through the cooler, much denser surrounding air.

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<v Speaker 3>In that case, gravity provides the acceleration, effectively pulling the

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<v Speaker 3>denser air down and around the lighter rising fluid, and

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<v Speaker 3>that density difference, coupled with the acceleration, causes the boundary

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<v Speaker 3>to become unstable and form those characteristic swirling shapes and

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<v Speaker 3>the big fingers or plumes that make up the mushroom cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if P thirty is basically a colossal cosmic

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<v Speaker 2>version of that, we have to address one key difference

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<v Speaker 2>in space. On this scale, gravity is pretty much irrelevant

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<v Speaker 2>compared to the kinetic forces. At play. So what force

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<v Speaker 2>is replacing gravity to define that density interface and drive

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<v Speaker 2>the instability.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the essential insight you need when you apply

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<v Speaker 3>terrestrial fluid physics to astrophysics. In Better thirty, the acceleration

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<v Speaker 3>isn't provided by a universal force like gravity. It's provided

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<v Speaker 3>by the relentless, sustained kinetic pressure of that outgoing stellar wind.

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<v Speaker 2>So the wind itself is the force.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the dense high speed wind acts like a piston.

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<v Speaker 3>It's forcefully accelerating the lighter interstellar material out of its way.

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<v Speaker 3>The rapid deceleration of that heavy wind as it smacks

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<v Speaker 3>into the lighter gas that creates the necessary conditions for

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<v Speaker 3>RT instability to kick off. Right at that boundary. The

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<v Speaker 3>inertia of the dense, fast moving wind is so immense

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<v Speaker 3>that it acts as the primary driving force pushing into

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<v Speaker 2>So the energy injection itself is the accelerating force. The

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<v Speaker 2>what causes those initial fingers to sprout.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, the conditions at the boundary between the dense fast

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<v Speaker 3>stellar wind and the surrounding interstellar gas were just perfect

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<v Speaker 3>for RT instability. You have a dense, heavier wind pushing

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<v Speaker 3>forward fully and continuously into a lighter surrounding material. This

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<v Speaker 3>interaction causes prumes or fingers to develop at the interface,

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<v Speaker 3>and they stretch out into the material ahead of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And in Paul thirty, those are the plumes that grew

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<v Speaker 2>into the long, straight filaments we see today.

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<v Speaker 3>They are the very same structures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but that immediately brings us right back to the

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<v Speaker 2>central puzzle of Path thirty. If our key instability creates

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<v Speaker 2>these fingers, why are they long, straight and sustained In

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<v Speaker 2>most supernova remnants we look at those RT fingers might

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<v Speaker 2>appear for a split second, but then they're immediately ripped

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<v Speaker 2>apart and mixed into total chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. They're incredibly transient.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you just look at the physics of a

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<v Speaker 3>And that is the fundamental difference that makes path thirty

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<v Speaker 3>so important for us to study. We are witnessing a

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<v Speaker 3>physical condition that is actively suppressing the subsequent processes that

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<v Speaker 3>normally generate chaos. Path thirty stays orderly because something is

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<v Speaker 3>preventing those fingers from being sheared apart.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the difference between a high energy explosion it just

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<v Speaker 2>immediately collapses into this disorganized turbulence and a continuous, sustained

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<v Speaker 2>process that maintains that structure well for nine centuries in counting.

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<v Speaker 3>And this brings us to the key physical insight that

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<v Speaker 3>the computational modeling uncovered. The preservation mechanism is the extreme

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<v Speaker 3>high density contrast between the two materials, and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>effect that has on a second, usually dominant instability.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you mentioned a second instability, the one that usually

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<v Speaker 2>causes all the chaos. Let's name it and define what

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<v Speaker 2>it normally does in a typical remnant.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to talk about the Kelvin Helmholtz instability or

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<v Speaker 3>k H. It's another fundamental concept where a Ralegh tailor

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<v Speaker 3>happens when fluids accelerate across a density boundary. Kelvin Helmholtz

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<v Speaker 3>happens when fluids of different speeds move parallel to each

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<v Speaker 3>other along a boundary. This creates intense shearing and mixing.

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<v Speaker 2>The classic example is wind blowing across the surface of water. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it creates waves.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect example that share between the fast moving air and

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<v Speaker 3>slower moving water creates waves which eventually break and mix

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<v Speaker 3>the air and water together. It's a mixing instability.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a typical full blown supernova, you get the

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<v Speaker 2>initial RT fingers forming, but the extremely high velocities and

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<v Speaker 2>the turbulent motions at the interface immediately cause cage instability

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<v Speaker 2>to kick.

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<v Speaker 3>In precisely, and cage instability just tears those RT fingers

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<v Speaker 3>to shreds almost instantly. The material flows are so turbulent

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<v Speaker 3>and they shear against each other with such violence that

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<v Speaker 3>any structure is destroyed. That chaotic turbulent mixing is what

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<v Speaker 3>makes standard supernova remnants look messy. That cauliflower shape is

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<v Speaker 3>often a direct result of KH instability tearing up the

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<v Speaker 3>initial RT structures.

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<v Speaker 2>So chaos is the default state for a cosmic explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Means that for Paianati to have this geometry, the cage

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<v Speaker 2>instability must have been somehow suppressed or damped down. So

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<v Speaker 2>how does a high density contrast do that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about inertia. The wind that was launched by

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<v Speaker 3>that surviving white dwarf was so much much heavier, so

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<v Speaker 3>much denser than the surrounding interstellar gas that the mixing instability,

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<v Speaker 3>the KH instability, just never got a chance to dominate, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It couldn't get a grip. Basically, it couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>The source material notes that the density ratio between the

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<v Speaker 3>ejecta from the star and the ambient medium around it

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like trying to shear a very dense, thick

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<v Speaker 2>cold syrup that's being pushed forward with tremendous force against

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<v Speaker 2>extremely light still air. The sheer difference in mass and

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<v Speaker 2>inertia prevents that lighter medium from being able to quickly

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<v Speaker 2>rip apart the heavier one.

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<v Speaker 3>That is an excellent analogy. The dense fluid has far,

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<v Speaker 3>far greater inertia, and that effectively damps down the sheer

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<v Speaker 3>forces that would normally lead to that rapid Kelvin Helmholtz mixing.

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<v Speaker 3>The dense material just keeps plowing forward in a linear.

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<v Speaker 2>Path, and it wasn't a one time push.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the other critical piece. The filaments were being continuously

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<v Speaker 3>fed by that ongoing dense wind being launched from the

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<v Speaker 3>surviving white wharf. This continuous high density injection was the

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<v Speaker 3>preservation mechanism. It kept the fingers stretching outward and actively

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<v Speaker 3>resisted the forces that would normally cause them to shred

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<v Speaker 2>So the high density contrast means the order persists, the

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing injection of material means the structure sustained over time,

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<v Speaker 2>and that combination gives us PAN thirty's visually stunning distinctive

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<v Speaker 2>firework appearance that can last for centuries.

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<v Speaker 3>And the computational work, the work done by Kaughlin's team

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<v Speaker 3>it confirmed this beautifully. They used these very high resolution

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<v Speaker 3>three D hydrodynamical simulations which let them isolate the effect

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<v Speaker 3>of the density ratio on how these instabilities developed.

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<v Speaker 2>So they could turn the knobs. Basically, they could turn.

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<v Speaker 3>The knobs, and their models demonstrated that when you input

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<v Speaker 3>conditions involving extremely high density contrasts where the injected fluid

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<v Speaker 3>is hundreds or even thousands of times denser than the

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<v Speaker 3>ambient medium, you produce exactly these types of long, straight,

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<v Speaker 3>sustained filamentary structures.

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<v Speaker 2>So the geometry isn't just some leftover.

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<v Speaker 3>Axis, not at all. It's an active, continue muously fed

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<v Speaker 3>structure that's governed by very very specific conditions in fluid physics.

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<v Speaker 2>What I find utterly fascinating is that the research drew

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<v Speaker 2>this unexpected parallel to real world, highly constrained experiments that

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<v Speaker 2>were conducted right here on Earth, you know, a long

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<v Speaker 2>way from the core of a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the connection to declassified data from atmospheric nuclear tests

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<v Speaker 3>is probably one of the most compelling plulks of this

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<v Speaker 3>entire study. It links fluid dynamics across these radically different scales,

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<v Speaker 3>from the surface of a star to a test site

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<v Speaker 3>in the Pacific Ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>And they look specifically at photographs from the nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two Kingfish nuclear test. That was an event studied specifically

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<v Speaker 2>for its atmospheric effects, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, for fallout dispersion and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did those Kingfish photos show that was so

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<v Speaker 2>relevant to a star that exploded centuries ago.

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<v Speaker 3>They showed that immediately after the detonation began, these striking

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<v Speaker 3>filamentary patterns formed within the rising fireball. It was clear

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<v Speaker 3>visual proof.

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<v Speaker 2>So it proved unequivocally that RT instability works the same

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<v Speaker 2>way whether your energy source is a stellar core or

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear war hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. The initial physics of density instability is universal. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't care about the scale.

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<v Speaker 2>But the source material highlights the really crucial difference in

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<v Speaker 2>how the two events evolved over time. The Kingfish test

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<v Speaker 2>ended up as a mushroom cloud, while Paw thirty ended

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<v Speaker 2>up as a sparkler. Why did they diverge.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference is timing, duration, and the nature of the

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<v Speaker 3>energy source. The nuclear test is what we call an

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<v Speaker 3>impulsive energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Release, a single instantaneous.

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<v Speaker 3>Burst right, a massive amount of energy in a fraction

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<v Speaker 3>of a second, and then a very rapid drop off

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<v Speaker 3>in the driving pressure. So in the Kingfish test, while

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<v Speaker 3>you saw those initial rt fingers form, the driving force

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<v Speaker 3>quickly vanished and the atmosphere's own turbulence, driven by those

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<v Speaker 3>intense sheer forces, rapidly took over.

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<v Speaker 2>So the kh instability won out.

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<v Speaker 3>In the end, it did. Those initial filamentary patterns quickly

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<v Speaker 3>evolved into the chaotic expected classic qualiflyer shape because the turbulence,

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<v Speaker 3>the cage and stability rapidly dominated the structure once the

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<v Speaker 3>initial push was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But Impal thirty, the star survived exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is everything. The continuous feeding of that dense

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<v Speaker 3>stellar wind from the surviving white dwarf was the preservation mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't an impulsive event. It was a sustained energy

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<v Speaker 3>and mass injection that has been going on for centuries.

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<v Speaker 2>And that sustained pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>That continuous pressure maintained the high density contrast, which allowed

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<v Speaker 3>the RT fingers to just keep growing, keeps stretching linearly,

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<v Speaker 3>and resist the kh driven turbulence that would normally morph

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<v Speaker 3>them into chaos. It's the duration and the density of

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<v Speaker 3>the driving force that allows this beautiful order to persist

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<v Speaker 3>over centuries.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just a staggering realization. The entire reason potharity

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<v Speaker 2>looks the way it does is because the explosion failed

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<v Speaker 2>in this very specific way, which resulted in a sustained

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<v Speaker 2>dense engine, the surviving star that just keeps feeding highly

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<v Speaker 2>structured fluid outward for almost a thousand years.

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<v Speaker 3>In this knowledge, it has implications that go far beyond

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<v Speaker 3>just this one remnant this mechanism where an extremely high

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<v Speaker 3>density contrast preserves RT driven structure by suppressing kge mixing,

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<v Speaker 3>it suggests that we might see similar filamentary structures, either

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<v Speaker 3>transiently or perpetually in other astrophysical phenomena.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime you have very dense materials slamming into a lighter.

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<v Speaker 3>Medium, that's the condition to look for.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about potentially identifying whole new visual signatures

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<v Speaker 2>for other kinds of cosmic violence? Where else might this

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<v Speaker 2>be happening?

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<v Speaker 3>While the researchers point toward events like tidal disruption events

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<v Speaker 3>or TDEs, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going a black hole tears a star apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly when a star gets too close to a supermassive

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<v Speaker 3>black hole, the tidal forces shred it. Some of that

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<v Speaker 3>stellar material gets swallowed, but a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 3>ejected outward at enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>Speeds, and that debris would be extremely.

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<v Speaker 3>Dense, extremely dense, and it's slamming into the much lighter

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<v Speaker 3>gas that typically surrounds a black hole. So if the

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<v Speaker 3>physics holds true, we might expect to see transient straight

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<v Speaker 3>pan thirty like filaments being formed during TDEs, and that

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<v Speaker 3>could give us brand new observational tools to understand the

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<v Speaker 3>outflow dynamics from black holes.

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<v Speaker 2>So studying this one rare failed stellar death helps us

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<v Speaker 2>map out the entire family of violent cosmic events. It

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<v Speaker 2>transforms the eleven eighty one guest star from a historical

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<v Speaker 2>footnote into a working laboratory for stellar evolution and fundamental

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<v Speaker 2>fluid physics.

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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely does. It forces us to reconsider what chaos

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<v Speaker 3>in space really means. It shows us that sometimes under

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<v Speaker 3>very specific conditions. You can impose this incredible geometric order

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<v Speaker 3>on events that should, by all rights be utterly turbulent.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been an incredibly deep and satisfying dive. We've

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<v Speaker 2>really journeyed from a celestial anomaly, this guest star, documented

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<v Speaker 2>almost nine hundred and fifty years ago by Chinese and

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese astronomers, all the way to the complex world of

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<v Speaker 2>computational fluid dynamics.

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<v Speaker 3>That's huge leap.

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<v Speaker 2>We've established that the bizarre geometry of Path thirty, this

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<v Speaker 2>stellar sparkler, isn't an accident, a direct result of a

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<v Speaker 2>very specific kind of stellar failure, a type I AX supernova.

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<v Speaker 3>And the synthesis is just so powerful when you lay

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<v Speaker 3>it all out. The star failed to achieve a full

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<v Speaker 3>detonation right that left behind a surviving dense core that

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<v Speaker 3>acts as a continuous injector.

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<v Speaker 2>The little engine, the cud it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>This dense hyperfast wind slams into the lighter interstellar medium,

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<v Speaker 3>creating fingers through the Raley Taylor instability, and crucially, that

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<v Speaker 3>extreme density contrast between the dense ejecta and the light

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<v Speaker 3>ambient gas. It suppresses the usual shredding mechanism. The Kelvin

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<v Speaker 3>Helmholtz instability.

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<v Speaker 2>Which allows those fingers to persist straight and orderly for centuries.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And this gives us a crucial detailed data point

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<v Speaker 3>about the universe's complex physics that a typical full chaotic

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<v Speaker 3>explosion would have simply annihilated, wiped clean.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does this all mean for you, our listener

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<v Speaker 2>taking this new knowledge forward?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it means that our understanding of cosmic phenomena

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<v Speaker 3>is always always improving, even for events that happened centuries ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe more profoundly, it means we have to always

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared to look beyond the expected chaos. We just

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<v Speaker 3>assumed that high velocity collisions in space must always result

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<v Speaker 3>in uniform, messy turbulence.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the default assumption, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But if high density contrast is the key to preserving

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<v Speaker 3>these long, straight geometric structures, what other seemingly chaotic cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>events might be hiding underline perfectly straight geometric patterns that

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<v Speaker 3>we just haven't focused on yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean you might not have been looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Them exactly, whether we're observing distant nebulae or the material

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<v Speaker 3>flowing between binary stars, or the outflows from massive black holes.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that patterns there that we just haven't focused our

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<v Speaker 3>computational models or our high resolution telescopes on yet because

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<v Speaker 3>we assume they couldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a truly provocative thought. It suggests that in

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<v Speaker 2>the cosmos, sometimes the whimper of a partial stellar death

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<v Speaker 2>leaves a far clearer, more precise signature than the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>bang of a full obliteration.

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<v Speaker 3>The physics of failure gives us the clear geometry of success.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. It really suggests we should always look very

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<v Speaker 2>closely at the anomalies.

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<v Speaker 3>They often hold the clearest physical explanations.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for joining us for this deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the structured chaos of a failed star. We look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to exploring whatever other mysteries you bring us next time.

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<v Speaker 2>The gas

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<v Speaker 3>La
