Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news video. Well,
Speaker 1: good evening, how are we doing. I'm cold. I'm sick
Speaker 1: and tired of the cold. Now I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be old. I just made a poem. That's gross.
Speaker 1: Gary Tanguay, Here tonight, folks in for Dan Ray. Really
Speaker 1: I am. I put salt out on the walk, chopped
Speaker 1: up the ice. There was a time where I thought
Speaker 1: Winner was wonderful around here. It's over, It's done. I
Speaker 1: understand when people get to a certain age they just
Speaker 1: hate it. They just do period. End of story. So
Speaker 1: having said that, that's right, I guess that's kind of
Speaker 1: all I got to bitch about. Well, you can always
Speaker 1: find a lot to bitch about if you really thought
Speaker 1: about it. But this is where I am with politics now,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we're going to talk to John Kellery's schedule
Speaker 1: to join us here. And before I give you the
Speaker 1: rundown of the show, prior to the last few days,
Speaker 1: my opinion on politics was I'm sticking my head in
Speaker 1: the sand or current events period. I'm just sticking my
Speaker 1: head in the sand. I don't want to know. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stay inside my house I'm gonna watch The Diplomat.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch some movies. I'm gonna read some books.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang out with my family. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a little teaching. I'll talk to Bob Bryan on a
Speaker 1: podcast twice a week. But I'm not gonna pay attention
Speaker 1: to anything in the real world. I'm not gonna do
Speaker 1: it because it's too scary and it's too depressing. I mean,
Speaker 1: my god, those poor people in Washington with the Blackhawk
Speaker 1: helicopter in the airline crash. I mean, it just breaks
Speaker 1: your freaking heart. I can't. I don't know what happens.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you get a little you're sensitive when
Speaker 1: you're younger, and you're more sensitive when you're older. In between,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, eh, I can handle it. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's because you're busy, you know, you're thirty or forty, Ah,
Speaker 1: you blow it off. You get in the fifties, maybe
Speaker 1: you become a little more sensitive. But I can't watch
Speaker 1: the coverage anymore. I mean, for the families from Boston,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the skaters, and it just brings tears
Speaker 1: to your eyes. You know, I need to think you
Speaker 1: need a therapist after watching the six thirty news. You
Speaker 1: really do. It's so damn depressing. And then I started,
Speaker 1: I knew this show was coming up, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, Gar you gotta you gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1: buck up a little bit here. You really do, stop
Speaker 1: being such a whimp. Now that doesn't mean I have
Speaker 1: to watch CNN or MSNBC or Fox News and twenty
Speaker 1: four hour news coverage. I mean that could really drive
Speaker 1: you crazy. But I got to pay attention. Not because
Speaker 1: I'm doing a talk show with Dan Ray. And believe me,
Speaker 1: I would never try to say I'm as knowledgeable as
Speaker 1: Dan Ray. But I think it's my duty as a citizen.
Speaker 1: I need to pay attention. I need to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on things a little bit. We all have to
Speaker 1: because it seems like everything's going to hell. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Musk who's shutting down stuff. He wants to
Speaker 1: shut down usaid and he doesn't even we didn't elect him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Trump's buddy and he's going around shutting
Speaker 1: down things. But is he wrong? Maybe he's right to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. This guy's made trillions of dollars.
Speaker 1: He's not stupid. Is he just shutting something down to
Speaker 1: be a dink or is he shutting it down because
Speaker 1: it's not working. Stay tuned on that. Now. When Trump
Speaker 1: came out with these tariffs, you know a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially a business, thought he was crazy and so forth,
Speaker 1: and he just says it. He just said that's the
Speaker 1: way it's going to be. He got to hand it
Speaker 1: to him. Look, I didn't vote for the guy I thought. Look,
Speaker 1: as far as the presidential election was concerned, I wasn't
Speaker 1: thrilled with either choice. But now Mexico is saying they're
Speaker 1: going to send ten thousand troops to the border to
Speaker 1: stop the drug trade or help stop the drug trade.
Speaker 1: Canada is now coming to the table and it's going
Speaker 1: to have discussions with Trump on how we can stop
Speaker 1: drugs coming in from Canada. Now, from what I understand,
Speaker 1: the majority of it comes from Mexico. And I also
Speaker 1: sometimes I get confused with illegal immigration, with people crossing
Speaker 1: the border. I think almost ninety nine percent of it
Speaker 1: come from the South and one percent comes from the North.
Speaker 1: I believe that's what the situation is. So maybe I'm
Speaker 1: confusing that with the drugs a little bit. Trump is crazy.
Speaker 1: He just says stuff. He just says stuff.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: He's got Canada and Mexico talking. So when Trump first
Speaker 1: came out and said I'm putting these terrorists in because
Speaker 1: of the drug trade, I have to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I am just such a pessimist. I just believe drugs
Speaker 1: will be in our society forever because they always have been.
Speaker 1: People don't want to look at the situation realistically. People
Speaker 1: have been using narcotics to numb themselves, to self medicate
Speaker 1: since the beginning of humankind, whether it's chewing on a root,
Speaker 1: or whether it's smoking a leaf, or whether it's drinking
Speaker 1: some sort of kind of concoction from a still, this
Speaker 1: society has never been drug free. I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think we can handle it. I
Speaker 1: don't think humankind can exist without some sort of medication.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying, oh, let's make cocaine, you know, legal,
Speaker 1: and let's just go jump into a pile of the
Speaker 1: white stuff, but without either some anxiety medicine from your doctor,
Speaker 1: without the three high balls after you get home from work,
Speaker 1: or with the glass of wine from dinner, or with
Speaker 1: the joint you go out and you smoke on the
Speaker 1: back patio. I don't think we can as a society.
Speaker 1: We cannot get through life unmedicated. It can't be done.
Speaker 1: We've never done it. We've never done it. Period. So
Speaker 1: now they're gonna send ten thousand troops to the border
Speaker 1: to stop the drugs, Well, well they're at it, they
Speaker 1: might as well help with the legal immigration as well.
Speaker 1: And maybe that is the case. Maybe I've missed that.
Speaker 1: But if that's a lot of people, But does it
Speaker 1: really matter whether it's one, two, three, four or five thousand,
Speaker 1: ten thousand Mexican show soldiers at the border. If the
Speaker 1: cartels run the country. The cartels basically run the country.
Speaker 1: They have all the money, they have all the power.
Speaker 1: They do I mean, they just do. They run the
Speaker 1: country in Mexico. So are there ten thousand soldiers going
Speaker 1: to stop that? Do they know where the tunnels are?
Speaker 1: Because the way I see it, when it comes to
Speaker 1: drugs infiltrating the country, it's not like the cartel sands
Speaker 1: a battalion across the border. They said it through tunnels.
Speaker 1: They pay people off. They have a way to do
Speaker 1: it that no one knows. So you might have ten
Speaker 1: thousand guys above ground, who knows. Maybe they're going through
Speaker 1: tunnels underneath. I don't know, but we could call Trump
Speaker 1: crazy with the terriffs, but he's got people coming to
Speaker 1: the table, and he's made his point clear. I'm not
Speaker 1: optimistic when it comes to stopping the drug trade. I'm
Speaker 1: just not. People need to drink, people need to smoke,
Speaker 1: people need to get high. It sucks, It sucks, but
Speaker 1: we are a chemically dependent society. But when Trump first
Speaker 1: put this out to twenty five twenty five, I thought
Speaker 1: he was nuts. What do I know? He got these
Speaker 1: guys to the table six one seven six one seven
Speaker 1: two five four ten thirty. Yes, I did forget the
Speaker 1: number for a minute. Excuse me? Could you do better?
Speaker 1: You probably could. Gotta take some calls on this and
Speaker 1: uh run down the rest of the show coming up next.
Speaker 1: I'm Gary tag Away for Dan Ray. This is Night's Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. Gary tag Away
Speaker 1: for Dan Ray tonight six thirty. I didn't realize I
Speaker 1: was gonna be so pessimistic tonight. I got an I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you when I open up the show.
Speaker 1: I I don't know what I'm gonna say I stopped
Speaker 1: planning a long time ago. I just when I plan,
Speaker 1: I get nervous. A lot of people get nervous when
Speaker 1: they don't plan. When I plan, I get nervous, I
Speaker 1: get anxious. I don't like it. I want to go
Speaker 1: on blind, Flying Blind, And I started out talking about
Speaker 1: the fact that Trump obviously, ay, he's got Canada and
Speaker 1: Mexico talking to him, but I still don't think ten
Speaker 1: thousand Mexican soldiers are going to stop the drugs. We
Speaker 1: have been a society addicted to some sort of chemical
Speaker 1: forever and it's never going to change, all right. Maybe
Speaker 1: Gary and Woolburn will talk me off the ledge about that.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can get this computer work. Gary,
Speaker 1: you're up on wbz's Nightside.
Speaker 3: Well, I definitely am a big Trump fan, and I'm
Speaker 3: not going to argue with you and so forth. But
Speaker 3: I want to say one thing.
Speaker 4: You just said.
Speaker 3: Something was so interesting. Basically you had an expression wing
Speaker 3: it wig wing it, and I got to give you
Speaker 3: credit for that. You're just going on your own merit
Speaker 3: of what's on your mind right now to give the credit. Now,
Speaker 3: couple things, Were you a Biden fan?
Speaker 1: No, I haven't been a fan of anybody, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, No, I'm not a Biden fan. I'm
Speaker 1: not a Trump fan just because of his behavior. Just
Speaker 1: there's gotta be some decorum with the presidency. So I'm
Speaker 1: just not I wasn't a fan of either one, quite honestly.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let me give you three things in a
Speaker 3: defensive you and myself. What I don't like about Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: Three.
Speaker 3: Well, the combination of the arrogance and bad behavior is
Speaker 3: that it all rolls into one number two. I still
Speaker 3: to this day it irritates the heck guy of me.
Speaker 3: I'm sixty one years of age, that he made fun
Speaker 3: of John McKeen when he was dead to say he
Speaker 3: wasn't a national hero.
Speaker 1: Gary, Absolutely, I mean, there's no doubt in what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's just it's appalling, it's disgusting. But yet he won
Speaker 1: the presidential election handily. He wanted handly. I mean he
Speaker 1: wanted going on. I mean, I don't know about going away,
Speaker 1: but listen, he won both votes. All right, Gary, thanks
Speaker 1: for the phone call. I appreciate it. All right. John
Speaker 1: Keller's going to join us right now from CBS Boston.
Speaker 1: John how you doing tonight.
Speaker 4: I'm good Gary. My apologies for being late.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 1: You never have to apologize to me. I just open
Speaker 1: up the mic at like eight oh seven and start talking.
Speaker 1: I really don't care at this point in time. I
Speaker 1: don't plan for anything. I just said, yeah, I just can't.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm saying makes sense. But I
Speaker 1: don't know about you. But people used to say to me,
Speaker 1: do you plan? I go. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1: If I plan, I get nervous. I do I get nervous.
Speaker 4: That's the way to go.
Speaker 5: Let it rip.
Speaker 1: All right, So John, thanks for coming on. We're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna talk about the mayoral race here
Speaker 1: in Boston. But the whole thing now, I just want
Speaker 1: to kicking things off with Trump. You know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: thrilled with either candidate, and just the way you know,
Speaker 1: President Trump behaves, he just strives me nuts. But man,
Speaker 1: he's got him coming to the table. Twenty five percent
Speaker 1: for Canada, twenty five percent for Mexico, and now they're talking.
Speaker 1: And now Mexico says they're going to send ten thousand
Speaker 1: troops to the border to stop the drug trade. I
Speaker 1: think stopping the drug trade is impossible. But I'm a
Speaker 1: pestimate pessimist when it comes to that. What do you
Speaker 1: think about Trump's negotiating so far?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I want to see the end result
Speaker 4: of the negotiation.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I think most voters are not, you know, kind of
Speaker 4: hanging on the daily news cycle about this or anything else.
Speaker 4: They want to see how this is going to affect
Speaker 4: them and their cause of living and their quality of life,
Speaker 4: and what we get is it as a country. I mean,
Speaker 4: I certainly Trump supporters above maybe all other voters are
Speaker 4: attuned to the idea of politicians not exactly telling the
Speaker 4: truth about what's going on or engaging in performance art.
Speaker 4: Is that what's going on right now with Mexico and
Speaker 4: Canada is some sort of elaborate performance art where Trump
Speaker 4: saber rattles and they rattle their sabers back, and oh,
Speaker 4: they're moving troops to the border. Well what does that
Speaker 4: really mean? So I think it's wait and see.
Speaker 1: I'm just pessimistic when it comes to the drug war.
Speaker 1: I believe the cartels are in Mexico. When I take
Speaker 1: a look at drugs, I take a look at everything.
Speaker 1: I just feel as a society, not just the United States,
Speaker 1: but the world since Caven could chew roots. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's been some sort of form of chemical pendency and
Speaker 1: some there's self medication, and I just you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's prevention, it's it's I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: a fire will never be able to put out, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if even ten thousand soldiers at the
Speaker 1: border will stop it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the drug war, what it's been going
Speaker 4: on for decades. The failure of the immigration system and
Speaker 4: the failures of the border I've been going on for decades,
Speaker 4: right right, So you know, these are tough situations. And
Speaker 4: I guarantee you neither Donald Trump nor anyone else is
Speaker 4: waving any magic wand solving any of these problems.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no doubt. But you know something, John,
Speaker 1: I wonder both of them are massive problems. We understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Trump just acts like he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: in one fell swoop everything. Which it's unbelievable that he
Speaker 1: got elected because he talked about building a wall to
Speaker 1: I mean, he talks about doing things all the time
Speaker 1: and they never come true. But we still elected him,
Speaker 1: which I blame. I mean, I'm a registered Democrat. I
Speaker 1: did not vote for him, but I you know, I
Speaker 1: blame the Democrats because if you couldn't beat this guy,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4: Well? I would say this again. You know, people in
Speaker 4: the end want to see results. That was a big
Speaker 4: problem for Joe Biden, no doubt when it came to
Speaker 4: getting inflation under control and food prices. And now it's
Speaker 4: Trump's problem. We'll see how it works out for him.
Speaker 4: But you know, give Trump credit as a shrewd campaigner
Speaker 4: and political figure, and he identifies the biggest areas of
Speaker 4: discontent and then promises to take action on them in
Speaker 4: a way that drastically different from the way it's being
Speaker 4: tried now. So people think that status quo under Biden
Speaker 4: is a failure, you bet they're going to be open
Speaker 4: to something dramatically different. So, you know, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of the reason why Biden beat Trump in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: and by the way he did beat him. Okay, let's
Speaker 4: yeah that yeah, we agree on that, is that people
Speaker 4: felt that Trump hadn't delivered on a lot of his promises.
Speaker 4: You mentioned one, you know, dealing with the border. Remember
Speaker 4: how COVID was going to be over by Eastern. So
Speaker 4: broken promises are poison for a political figure. And I
Speaker 4: don't think in the end, don't Trumps any exception to that.
Speaker 4: But it's what is it week three? So the jury's out?
Speaker 1: What do you think of Musk? I'm just opening that
Speaker 1: question up. I'm just gonna let you.
Speaker 4: I you know, I have a bad attitude about them.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
Speaker 4: Why starting with and I know the obviously judging from
Speaker 4: the sales figures over the years, although they're not doing
Speaker 4: that great lately. People love the Tesla. Tesla certainly revolutionized
Speaker 4: the auto industry extent. But every time I see one
Speaker 4: of those things, what is it called the new Tesla's
Speaker 4: that look like little mini tanks?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I hate them.
Speaker 4: What do they call them?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's a name for it.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't worry about it, John, it's not important.
Speaker 1: We all know what they look like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean, they look so dumb, and apparently you can't
Speaker 4: get them clean for some reason. They come out of
Speaker 4: the factory and the finish is all rough on them.
Speaker 4: You can't get them all.
Speaker 1: Oh, they look gross. It looks like something out of
Speaker 1: a junk yard. Oh no, yeah, I know it's the
Speaker 1: uh lucium. Oh the god, I can't even read it.
Speaker 1: They have the what the heck it look like? No,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. And the way they
Speaker 1: have it written on the website here, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out it's the they have it in some fan
Speaker 1: the range extender. What it's called something like that, the
Speaker 1: range extend Yeah, I I don't. I don't know why
Speaker 1: anybody would drive one. I really don't. It's not it can,
Speaker 1: but it cannot be. It cannot be a magnet of
Speaker 1: the opposite sex or of the sex you are attempting
Speaker 1: to attract.
Speaker 4: Oh well, now now we're starting to get into like
Speaker 4: a scene from one of your novels. Get you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a grandfather here. Please don't drag me into this.
Speaker 1: Thank you, first of all, thank you for reading it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But but so this whole thing today,
Speaker 1: like with USA, must comes in and he shuts this
Speaker 1: down or says he's going to shut it down. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy's just running rampant. What do you how long
Speaker 1: is he going to last? Will Trump get tired? Of
Speaker 1: him like he does all his friends.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's that's a fair question. And uh,
Speaker 4: I think the fact that he's moving so fast it
Speaker 4: maybe kicks you off as to what must himself thinks
Speaker 4: his shelf life is going to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, trying.
Speaker 4: To just sort of you know, break as much furniture
Speaker 4: and glassware as he can. And there's short a period
Speaker 4: of time. And look, uh you know that was.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm not endorsing anything that's going on now. I don't
Speaker 4: think by saying, you know, this is what they promised
Speaker 4: to do, this is what Trump promised, So I don't
Speaker 4: understand why anyone would be surprised. You know, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of handwringing about the site of a completely I
Speaker 4: don't like a guy who's not even a sworn civil servant, right,
Speaker 4: he's sort of this he has some kind of weird
Speaker 4: status that's not the normal. He's not a normal government employee.
Speaker 4: Let's look at that, not at all. And he has
Speaker 4: no restraints on him apparently, and that's a little bit scary.
Speaker 4: I don't think in their sober moments, people want anyone
Speaker 4: to have that kind of power over us.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, Can you hang on for one more segment. Sure, okay,
Speaker 1: John Keller's with us from CBS Boston. I do want
Speaker 1: to get into the mayor race here in Boston as well.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little more Trump, and we still have
Speaker 1: calls to get to. We will do that guys, towards
Speaker 1: the top of the hour right here on the Dan
Speaker 1: Ray Show on Night Side. I'm Gary Tangley. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back night with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1: Right Gary Tank for Dan Ray. John Keller's with CBS Boston. John,
Speaker 1: thanks again for joining us getting back to this. Did
Speaker 1: you see the movie of The Apprentice?
Speaker 4: Uh, the recent one, the dramatization. No, I haven't seen
Speaker 4: it yet. Is it good?
Speaker 1: You have to watch dude, it's I don't It's entertainment.
Speaker 1: You have to watch it. Okay. Look, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you should be Harvard should not use this like for
Speaker 1: any for anything in your class. But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: I think it does explain Trump, and I think the
Speaker 1: acting is great in it, which I love. But as
Speaker 1: you see Trump mature in the movie, he's been lying
Speaker 1: his whole life, that's it. He's been like what he's
Speaker 1: doing now. He's been doing for forty years. But he
Speaker 1: just did it in business, So why stop now, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing, Like, this isn't new to him.
Speaker 1: This is how he's done it. This has been his
Speaker 1: playbook from day one. That's what I think.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing it. And by the way,
Speaker 4: you know, just because it's Harvard doesn't mean it isn't trashy.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, but he Donald Trump, whatever else you might want
Speaker 4: to say about him, is one of, if not the
Speaker 4: most brilliant self marketer of his generation. But he's I
Speaker 4: think that's point. After what he just pulled off, you
Speaker 4: have to say he has, if not the best, one
Speaker 4: of the best understandings of American politics, how it interacts
Speaker 4: with the culture, and how to exploit and manipulate it.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's unreasonable or unfair to call him
Speaker 4: a genius at that. And you know, the proof is
Speaker 4: right there, you know, in the election results. So that
Speaker 4: may be a dismaying or demoralizing fact, but I think
Speaker 4: it's a fact. So yes, you're right. I mean, it's funny, Gary,
Speaker 4: I got interested in Trump way back in the eighties
Speaker 4: when he was just getting up ahead of steam in
Speaker 4: Manhattan real estate. I used to read Spy Magazine, Remember
Speaker 4: Spy Magazine and Trump. It was this snarky magazine that
Speaker 4: sort of closely followed the cummings and goings of New
Speaker 4: York celebrities, and Trump certainly set the bill. They after
Speaker 4: a while settled on a stock phrase. Every time his
Speaker 4: name would be mentioned in the magazine, it would be
Speaker 4: preceded by the words short fingered, vulgarian Donald Trump, and
Speaker 4: that every reference, month after month, year after year. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I got interested in Trump, and I read pretty much
Speaker 4: every biography about him that I could get my hands on,
Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, everything his critics say about him
Speaker 4: is true, and everything that is fans admire about him,
Speaker 4: or at least what makes him an effective paul is
Speaker 4: also true and is brilliant in its own way. Call
Speaker 4: it diapa if you want, but I think we've got
Speaker 4: to recognize from that standpoint what's going on here. It's
Speaker 4: a phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Well, have a glass of wine, your favorite beverage, however
Speaker 1: you choose to medicate or maybe you don't, and watch
Speaker 1: the movie and just realize it's a movie. But the
Speaker 1: acting's great. I mean, it's it's great switching gears here.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the May race. Full disclosure. I worked
Speaker 1: with the Crafts. I like the Crafts. I've had coffee
Speaker 1: with Josh Kraft. I like them. I have not met
Speaker 1: Michelle Wou. I do not live in Boston, so I'm
Speaker 1: not voting here. I find this very interesting that and
Speaker 1: it's been documented. I mean, Josh had donated to Wo's
Speaker 1: campaign in the past, and I don't believe she's committed
Speaker 1: yet to run, but maybe that's just a technicality. Are
Speaker 1: you surprised that these two will oppose each other.
Speaker 2: A little bit?
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, I don't know very much
Speaker 4: yet about Josh Crap. I've never met him. I'm actually
Speaker 4: gonna sit down and do an interview with him later
Speaker 4: on this week.
Speaker 1: Something you'll enjoy it. I mean, look, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: just looking. I'm gonna tell him you will enjoy the conversation.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably the smartest of them all. I
Speaker 1: mean they're all very bright. Robert was very big, Robert
Speaker 1: and Meyer are very big on education. He's probably the
Speaker 1: smartest of all those sons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so you know, I'm glad that there's gonna
Speaker 4: be a race. It's depressing when an important job like
Speaker 4: mayor of Boston goes uncontested, no matter no matter how
Speaker 4: good the incumbent is. So that's a good thing. Like
Speaker 4: I say, I don't really know him. I have followed
Speaker 4: Michelle Who's career, and I would say two things about
Speaker 4: this race right A, is it as it gets going,
Speaker 4: if in fact it's gonna go, And that is that
Speaker 4: she's not invulnerable. There are some weaknesses there, and judging
Speaker 4: from the announcement video that Josh Craft released, he understands
Speaker 4: what they are and is going to talk about them.
Speaker 4: And the other thing to know about this race is
Speaker 4: that it's going to be a real uphill battle for
Speaker 4: Josh Craft or anyone else because Michelle Wu is a
Speaker 4: really really good retail politician with a strong, well cultivated
Speaker 4: base of support and political machine within the city. And they're,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever the ups and downs of the Wu years,
Speaker 4: and there have been plenty of them, they're not going
Speaker 4: to roll over and watch her get swept out. And
Speaker 4: I'm not sure yet if there's enough anti Humban's sentiment, unhappiness,
Speaker 4: anxiety within the Boston electorate to sweep her out. I
Speaker 4: think that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: Well, that's fine. That's why I found it interesting that
Speaker 1: Josh ran I think that this is just my read
Speaker 1: on the situation because I've covered the Patriots forever and
Speaker 1: I know that look what he's done for the Boys
Speaker 1: and Girls Club, it's well documented. I've talked to people
Speaker 1: that have worked with him, and I'm not campaigning for
Speaker 1: either one. Look, she's obviously people like her. She seems
Speaker 1: to be a very nice lady. The thing about like
Speaker 1: Josh is he's like a billionaire that does all this
Speaker 1: charity work. And I don't know if people can wrap
Speaker 1: their heads around that, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's his mother's son. So like the fact that he
Speaker 1: is a billion I mean, he comes from a billionaire family.
Speaker 1: Even though he's very charitable and he's very civic minded,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the money background.
Speaker 4: Hurts well, you know, listen, the fact that you're wealthy
Speaker 4: doesn't always compromise your chances in Massachusetts politics. That seems
Speaker 4: to recall Mitt Romney, You're nowhere and did very well
Speaker 4: for himself. Bill Weld didn't have to worry about where
Speaker 4: his next meal was coming from and so forth. So
Speaker 4: and you know, if you go back far enough, you
Speaker 4: know Roosevelt and the Salton stalls and on and on.
Speaker 4: So you know, how he's able to tell his story
Speaker 4: is going to matter. It certainly is an interesting twist
Speaker 4: that in a way he's running to be at least
Speaker 4: in part, the candidate of Bostonians of color. I mean,
Speaker 4: most of his charity work, certainly, not all, but most
Speaker 4: of it has been with the black community in Boston
Speaker 4: as head of the Urban League. All the boys and
Speaker 4: girls clubs, of course serve a diverse clientele. But and
Speaker 4: so here's this, you know, white guy from the suburbs
Speaker 4: who now lives in the city or at least has
Speaker 4: a voting residence there. And you know, it's just kind
Speaker 4: of an interesting twist. It'd be interesting to see how
Speaker 4: it goes over within the black community, which doesn't vote
Speaker 4: as a monolith as we keep seeing in every election,
Speaker 4: you got that, right, and how it plays city wide.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you again, you know, the more I'm
Speaker 4: in this racket, Garry, the more I just kind of
Speaker 4: just believe in what the numbers are trying to tell you,
Speaker 4: the actual hard numbers. On voting day, I mean, Michelle
Speaker 4: Wu ran up vote totals in her life US two
Speaker 4: citywide runs for counselor at large that were amazing. It
Speaker 4: reminded me of the late Dapper O'Neill. The city councilor
Speaker 4: used to brag that they didn't count his votes. They
Speaker 4: weighed them, and they they had to weigh Michelle Who's votes.
Speaker 4: And she didn't do too badly in the mayor race
Speaker 4: four years ago when she was elected either, as I recall,
Speaker 4: she was right around sixty five percent of the vote.
Speaker 4: That's what you call a landslide. So you know that
Speaker 4: that tells you something. And I don't think that she's
Speaker 4: you know, neglected her voters over the last four years.
Speaker 4: Now they may well be among those voters were unhappy
Speaker 4: about certain things.
Speaker 1: Would at that would what would be about.
Speaker 4: The financial condition of the city, the looting of the
Speaker 4: budget at a time of of reduced budgets at the
Speaker 4: state level and at other levels. Her a number of
Speaker 4: things that have angered and upset the business community that
Speaker 4: kind of fattens up the golden goose that feeds the
Speaker 4: social services around here. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 4: people are happy with the city's aggressive pursuit of bike
Speaker 4: lanes everywhere, taking up parking and scrambling the mix of
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods. And also there's reasonablieve that there are significant
Speaker 4: numbers of voters who feel like this city hall takes
Speaker 4: my way or the highway approach and doesn't really listen
Speaker 4: to legitimate criticism, respond to legitimate concerns. And that's something
Speaker 4: as a mayor, you never want to be branded as arrogant.
Speaker 4: So those are issues that I think are real that
Speaker 4: she'll have to deal with. But she starts out as
Speaker 4: a heavy favorite. Gary, Josh Kraft or anyone else.
Speaker 1: John, you're the best. Thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 1: You're doing brilliant work as always CBS boss and political
Speaker 1: analyst and grandpa. And let me tell you, my friend,
Speaker 1: things are not slowing down for you.
Speaker 4: Well, don't you think a really good looking grandpa might
Speaker 4: make a good character for your next novel? Maybe in
Speaker 4: one of those those red hot scenes there, Gary, I
Speaker 4: can John, I can use my name, but everyone will
Speaker 4: know it's me.
Speaker 1: How do you look at a speedo?
Speaker 4: And on that note, please no need for those those
Speaker 4: miracle diet medications. Now everyone has an image to.
Speaker 1: Work with, all right, John Keller, thank you very much, buddy,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time.
Speaker 4: Take care, Gary, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. He's the best. Uh just was starting. He
Speaker 1: was a sports guy for a while. John Keller. I
Speaker 1: like people who are really smart and not arrogant, and
Speaker 1: that's him. We're gonna grab some calls nine o'clock, gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the tariffs and what's going on with Trump.
Speaker 1: David Alcock's gonna join us, and how they're getting people
Speaker 1: to the table. We'll break that that for you. Coming
Speaker 1: up at nine on WBZ, we talk oscars. At ten
Speaker 1: o'clock with Odie Henderson of the Boston Globe. Sam Metler,
Speaker 1: all thanks politics with my moderate friend from the West Coast.
Speaker 1: If you're a moderate from LA that means everybody hates you.
Speaker 1: It's all coming up on Nightside on WBZ. Now back
Speaker 1: to Dan ray Mine from the Window World night Side
Speaker 1: Studios on WBZ News Radio. Hey, welcome back Garyan for
Speaker 1: Dan tonight Day. Coming up a nine o'clock we will
Speaker 1: talk more about the tarrifs, terris terroriffts that Trump has
Speaker 1: been talking about and now it seems to be getting
Speaker 1: people to the negotiating table. So is his ploy working.
Speaker 1: David Elcott joins us business strategists to discuss. Thanks to
Speaker 1: my buddy John for coming on. It's always a pleasure
Speaker 1: to talk to him. CBS Bosson political analyst John Keller,
Speaker 1: it's the mayor race is going to be interesting, I
Speaker 1: think because Michelle Wolf seems very likable. As John mentioned,
Speaker 1: with any sitting politician, president, mayor senator, there's going to
Speaker 1: be issues, but she could be a tough out for
Speaker 1: Josh Kraft, who's a brilliant guy. I almost feel like,
Speaker 1: could they be co mayors? Would that work? Because I
Speaker 1: think I shut asked John this. I think they're kind
Speaker 1: of on the same page right with some things politically,
Speaker 1: both Democrats. I know Josh is very liberal, wants to
Speaker 1: help people stay tuned. I think it's I hope they
Speaker 1: have a debate because I think it'll be a great
Speaker 1: rate debate. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 1: Wally and Georgetown is on WBC's Night Side.
Speaker 2: Wally, what's up, Hey, Gary, I'll tell you. I'm I
Speaker 2: just feel terrific about what's happening in American politics now.
Speaker 2: For the first time in my lifetime, I see that
Speaker 2: it's not the fifty thousand watt blow touches. You know
Speaker 2: of radio broadcasting and TV four or five in seven
Speaker 2: forming the political opinions of most people. Now they can
Speaker 2: get it from X or Twitter, or from Joe Rogan
Speaker 2: or from any number.
Speaker 7: You're right, Let me just tell you why. Let me
Speaker 7: tell you why it's important because Elon Musz doesn't have
Speaker 7: any authority. He reports to the cabinet members and he
Speaker 7: reports to the President of the United States. So when
Speaker 7: he's maligned like he's he's doing something.
Speaker 5: Wrong or he's conniving on whatever, it's just not true.
Speaker 5: Just like when when you think about with those millions
Speaker 5: of dollars from the US Aid Agency that where it
Speaker 5: is just stolen from the American taxpayers and we're sick
Speaker 5: of it, and it's stolen, and it's filtered through the
Speaker 5: right people, and so much of that money gets recirculated
Speaker 5: back into the proper people in the DC zip code.
Speaker 5: If you know what I'm talking about, well, well I
Speaker 5: appreciate ul.
Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see on that and know
Speaker 1: how that works out. But let's go to Theodore and marylist.
Speaker 1: I want to get you on the top of down. Hey, Theodore,
Speaker 1: what's up.
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm listening to you. I'd like to make a
Speaker 6: correction in reference to what he was saying. He was saying,
Speaker 6: whether what Eli Musk is doing is right. It's not right.
Speaker 6: He is not he has does not have the authority.
Speaker 6: And I get Social Security, and a lot of millions
Speaker 6: of people up there in Massachusetts get social Security. He
Speaker 6: has my number, he has my address, he has my
Speaker 6: Social Security number, and he has all these millions of people,
Speaker 6: so scricty number. He walked into a government office. That's
Speaker 6: like a dictator, and Donald Trump is letting him. Donald
Speaker 6: Trump is not crazy. Donald Trump is just a man
Speaker 6: who loves money. He doesn't love people. He loves money.
Speaker 6: That's why he lets this guy do this. And it's
Speaker 6: against the law. Only Congress can shut down an agency
Speaker 6: that they created. But yet these people are walking into
Speaker 6: government offices and doing this. And I'm not a prophet.
Speaker 6: I'm not a New Testament or Old Testament prophet. But
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you all these people. We have one
Speaker 6: right wing radio down here laughing at people about to
Speaker 6: get thrown out of jobs. And people like mister Rogan
Speaker 6: and mister Bannon and all those right wing people, they
Speaker 6: got families, they got children, they got wives, and they're
Speaker 6: laughing at other people's discomfort and they're disrespecting people, and
Speaker 6: everybody on the street called it karma. It's going to
Speaker 6: come back around to the theater.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the phone call. I have
Speaker 1: to break for news. I find what Musk is doing
Speaker 1: extremely odd. It's just strange, and I have to believe
Speaker 1: that our government will not let anything happen to us
Speaker 1: that would be that would hurt us. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I want to believe that. Coming up
Speaker 1: next Tariff's tarras Tarrace here on WBZ