Speaker 1: I've seen your name, I've seen your video reels, I've
Speaker 1: seen you've been skating all around town. What have you
Speaker 1: been up to? How did you get on those wheels?
Speaker 1: And it's just something you've always done? Is it something
Speaker 1: that you've just kind of like a hobby. Is it
Speaker 1: like introducing like that whole inner child back where it's
Speaker 1: like having fun a little bit of everything right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that, Yeah, that inner child.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And just wanted to do
Speaker 2: this shit forever, you know what I mean. That's like,
Speaker 2: what's what I'm wanting.
Speaker 1: So take us back to you said you want to
Speaker 1: do this shit forever? Like where did that dream? The
Speaker 1: aspirations of just doing what truly you identify with and
Speaker 1: makes you happy.
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 2: When I first started skating, my homie told me that. Well,
Speaker 2: when I first started skating, we was watching this video
Speaker 2: like skate videos and shit, right, and they were skating
Speaker 2: in London and I'm like, oh shit in London, like
Speaker 2: and my man was like, yeah, you could become a
Speaker 2: professional skateboarder and travel around the world and get paid.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh shit, Like I'm ten years old.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, were you like, oh, is that something
Speaker 1: that you didn't think that it was like obtainable? What
Speaker 1: do you think that like? Or like do you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're full of shit? Like because nowadays it's like so
Speaker 1: many different ways to make money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm ten years old. There's no social media, there's.
Speaker 1: No like what is it thrasher of the magazines.
Speaker 2: Where this is a VHS tape in my house with
Speaker 2: my friends.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I'm not really into skating, but I like the
Speaker 2: way it looks, you know what I mean, I can
Speaker 2: skateboard look cool. Like. So when he told me that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, shit, how do you get sponsored? You know,
Speaker 2: because if you can get paid to ride a skateboard
Speaker 2: because the shit looked fun, and then you could travel
Speaker 2: the world, then why not you know. In my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he said, basically, you just got to learn all
Speaker 2: the tricks and then you get scouted.
Speaker 4: Okay, then you can get sponsored. This is me you know,
Speaker 4: at ten, at ten Okay, So.
Speaker 2: In my mind it was game on, like, you know,
Speaker 2: so by twelve I got sponsored.
Speaker 1: You know, it was your first sponsor.
Speaker 2: It was this company called Underworld Element.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and it was how is that feeling the
Speaker 1: first time of knowing that at ten you watched this
Speaker 1: VH video VHS video and then you actually put into
Speaker 1: action what you set out to do.
Speaker 2: You said, how it feel? Yeah, that shit felt amazing.
Speaker 2: I felt. I felt. I felt like if I could
Speaker 2: travel the world riding a skateboard and getting paid, there.
Speaker 3: Was nothing else.
Speaker 1: You made it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean not even well, yeah, I made it.
Speaker 2: I made it. You know, I made myself happy. All right.
Speaker 2: That's a goal inside the skateboard and turning pro. But
Speaker 2: the experience is traveling around the world, the friend and
Speaker 2: the networking different languages, like you know, I learned so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah that that Yeah, this hobby. You know that everybody thought,
Speaker 2: you know, skateboarding ain't gonna take you nowhere anyway.
Speaker 1: Nobody will think for your parents like uh no, go
Speaker 1: do something else like they were in theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody back then, you talking about like nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: ninety three. You know what I'm saying, like black motherfucker
Speaker 2: on skateboard going places in life like this shit don't
Speaker 2: even make no sense. But I felt like I had
Speaker 2: the ability in the in the skateboarding skills to just
Speaker 2: travel around the world and skate once.
Speaker 3: You know, like the circuit or whatever.
Speaker 2: So you know, that became my purpose, okay, you know,
Speaker 2: and then being pro I think, like my obligation became
Speaker 2: like to to show showcase like what inner city kids
Speaker 2: are capable of doing if they follow the right path
Speaker 2: type shit.
Speaker 1: Right, I love that, Like, so you're being a role
Speaker 1: model not even knowing and.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my dad because he told me that
Speaker 2: it was my obligation at a time that I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't really aware of knowing what that meant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy I'm making money, Like, but.
Speaker 1: It's a whole other thing. I feel like it's important
Speaker 1: to like to touch on those things as like the
Speaker 1: happiness of like because it's like people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you should always do what you love, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Some people don't always do that and always
Speaker 1: stick with it because of the trials and tribulations of
Speaker 1: like the hard work. And sometimes people see other people
Speaker 1: have and be like, oh, that's easy, Oh that's whatever.
Speaker 1: But at ten years old, it's like you just all
Speaker 1: you wanted to do was have fun. If skating, wanted to.
Speaker 1: It made you feel free, made you feel you know,
Speaker 1: all these things that you could have, you know, and
Speaker 1: the money, the traveling and like what that could do
Speaker 1: for your family, for you and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a game changer, you know. And then staying
Speaker 1: with that and the happiness, would you say you're still
Speaker 1: currently happy and what you with what you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So going back to the first question, the reason
Speaker 2: why it's more like a kid feeling for me now
Speaker 2: is because like I can super identify my purpose and
Speaker 2: and and live that. Okay, because because initially when I
Speaker 2: had the thought of, like I wanted to do this forever,
Speaker 2: like now I can actually do it forever.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I've been through all of the trials and
Speaker 2: shit like that. Yeah, that's hard in itself, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But coming out of that and then
Speaker 2: being able to like understand like what the purpose is,
Speaker 2: your purpose is, and then live in that and then
Speaker 2: being true in that, that's that's pretty late.
Speaker 1: Like that that is I mean, for sure, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things I feel like not enough people reach
Speaker 1: that earlier on. I feel like some people get it
Speaker 1: to a point where it's like, maybe not too late,
Speaker 1: because it's always you know, it's your own destination of
Speaker 1: what we go through in our own journey and the
Speaker 1: timeframe of how things go, you know, kind of play out.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's it's really cool to capture
Speaker 1: them those things at an early moment, because then you
Speaker 1: enjoy it more. You like see things in a different
Speaker 1: light where it's like, you know, even with myself, I
Speaker 1: was in the adult entertainment business for now it's like
Speaker 1: fifteen years. But in that time, I not that I
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing what was around me, but I didn't enjoy
Speaker 1: it as much that I have the last ten years,
Speaker 1: five to seven years, you know what I mean, where
Speaker 1: I was just like, wait, you know, time flies, you know,
Speaker 1: I've traveled everywhere. You meet people, and then you realize
Speaker 1: it just the consecutive years just keep going and you're like, well, damn,
Speaker 1: I've been in here for fifteen years, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it because I'm still having fun in different aspects.
Speaker 2: Were you involved in the culture now, it's not even about.
Speaker 1: Like and it encompasses everything, like you said, once you
Speaker 1: know the game and once you know the people and
Speaker 1: the networking. It's very easy to do, and your body
Speaker 1: of work kind of still be relevant in what today's
Speaker 1: terms in that world is because you have the knowledge,
Speaker 1: you have the name, you have the brand recognition, you
Speaker 1: have all of those things that you put in the
Speaker 1: work to do that. Even at ten years old you
Speaker 1: may not have known, but it was building and putting
Speaker 1: all those tools in your belt. Like, Okay, now I
Speaker 1: got this. You know, I traveled, I got my first sponsorship.
Speaker 1: Now what's next? Like, how do you you know?
Speaker 2: It's been a long road, fun road, the journey experiencing
Speaker 2: all of that type of shit.
Speaker 1: But how long have you been skating?
Speaker 3: I've been skating for thirty two years.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you took a
Speaker 1: break because something happened or you just needed to reset
Speaker 1: to like brought you back to it?
Speaker 2: Always always been in and out of skating, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like skating is is is a
Speaker 2: mental thing, right, and it's also physical and then it's
Speaker 2: also like like a passion is ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can see that.
Speaker 2: So sometimes you lose passion. Sometimes you you have more
Speaker 2: passion than you had before.
Speaker 3: Like it's finding that balance.
Speaker 2: Well, for me, it's finding a balance when I'm comfortable
Speaker 2: enough to actually like you know, want to do it
Speaker 2: and falling.
Speaker 3: Back in love with it.
Speaker 2: And and like that's where I'm at now, Like, so
Speaker 2: me understanding my purpose, me falling back in love with skateboardings,
Speaker 2: falling back in love with the actual culture and seeing
Speaker 2: like my imprint that I made on the culture. And
Speaker 2: then how these generations after me like look to me
Speaker 2: as as as somewhat of like an influencer to to
Speaker 2: help them, you know, navigate through.
Speaker 3: That their adversity.
Speaker 2: And it's not the influencer like the social media influencer,
Speaker 2: but it's more like the role model influencer.
Speaker 1: Obligation within skateboarding and with your brand and.
Speaker 3: Culture just the culture period.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying, Like outside of the business,
Speaker 2: outside of the money, outside of the fame and all
Speaker 2: that shit, it's more so about like what can you
Speaker 2: actually do on the skateboard and how far can you
Speaker 2: take it right? And initially that's how people will kids
Speaker 2: get into skateboarding, and then it'll suck twenty thirty years
Speaker 2: of your life up.
Speaker 3: You do know what I'm saying, because you it's all
Speaker 3: natural intention.
Speaker 2: It's more progression too, you know, and manifesting these things
Speaker 2: that you want to learn. But then sometimes the results
Speaker 2: or the payout don't add up for all of the
Speaker 2: years that.
Speaker 3: You put in.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can see that.
Speaker 2: So you can lose passion, you know, you can lose
Speaker 2: passion when the finances ain't adding up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So everybody don't become a Stevie Williams. Everybody don't become
Speaker 2: a Tony Hawk. Everybody don't become a Nigi Houston and
Speaker 2: so forth, and all of that type of shit. But
Speaker 2: that's in every industry, that's in every culture. You do
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So, how do you find yourself in
Speaker 2: something that you're so passionate about, that you love so much,
Speaker 2: that you're really good at, but it doesn't financially satisfy
Speaker 2: you as you get older?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: So do you have what are some tools that you
Speaker 1: kind of use to kind of keep yourself in check,
Speaker 1: keep yourself in line with what you know, what you
Speaker 1: were had your purpose being. Is there some techniques that
Speaker 1: you can give maybe some people out there to give
Speaker 1: advice to kind of kick you still grounded?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could give you some of my advice, but
Speaker 2: of course shit might not work, you feel me, because
Speaker 2: I lived a different life.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna and include you on a piece of
Speaker 3: my journey.
Speaker 2: So at fifteen years old, I ran away from Philadelphia
Speaker 2: and hitchhike to San Francisco to become a professional skateboarder
Speaker 2: because in Philadelphia that just probably wasn't going to be
Speaker 2: possible for a little black kid like me.
Speaker 3: So I took it upon myself to go.
Speaker 1: Nationwide and buy yourself so well, no.
Speaker 2: Not solo, but I left Philly by myself, linked up
Speaker 2: with my man Jimmy, and then me and him hitch
Speaker 2: rides and we found a guy.
Speaker 1: And how was that experience?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Were you scared? Were you thrilled? Were you just because
Speaker 1: of the excitement.
Speaker 2: Because she's crazy what she was at that time. But
Speaker 2: I knew that something that I was doing.
Speaker 1: Was just so just you were supposed to do it.
Speaker 2: Left, Yeah, that I knew I had to do this
Speaker 2: to become who ultimately knew I was destined to become.
Speaker 2: Not knowing that, you know, there was a possibility that
Speaker 2: I couldn't become that, But in my mind, like I
Speaker 2: want to be this person. Yeah, so nothing can stop me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. So along the way, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I enjoyed some things. I've learnt
Speaker 2: a lot of things.
Speaker 1: What are some of those things you enjoyed, Stevie.
Speaker 3: I'm fifteen years old. Was skateboarding because.
Speaker 1: It's it's different, because it's like it's one of those
Speaker 1: things is like, what's fascinates me about that? Starting to
Speaker 1: her to interrupt you like your moment, But it was
Speaker 1: one of those things like at fifteen as a male
Speaker 1: and even as a female would be total two totally
Speaker 1: different experiences because of just a lot of reasons. So
Speaker 1: it's like, and I think that it's cool to see
Speaker 1: the also thing of like the non fear of because
Speaker 1: fear is what puts it gets our in our own way.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what I mean. So if
Speaker 1: you already had the intentions to set out, you are
Speaker 1: always going to make it to San Francisco. It didn't
Speaker 1: matter how connection is going to.
Speaker 3: Take you regardless.
Speaker 2: For sure, if you if you have the right intentions,
Speaker 2: you believe in the higher power other than yourself, and
Speaker 2: you have a goal that you want to set yourself
Speaker 2: out for that you know in your soul that you
Speaker 2: can achieve. There should be nothing that could stop you.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I don't really give a fuck what
Speaker 2: it is. I left school, I left my family, I
Speaker 2: left all my friends, I left my city. But my
Speaker 2: soul was telling me, like, yo, you need to do this.
Speaker 2: So I did it. You know I had the heart
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: That, right.
Speaker 2: So so going back to the question is like, if
Speaker 2: you haven't really experienced these really in depth trials and
Speaker 2: tribulations and learning how to maneuver through this shit and
Speaker 2: have a great outcome, because it's all about the choices
Speaker 2: you make, and and and sometimes people make fucked up
Speaker 2: choices and that them choices can take you back.
Speaker 1: You feel me, I've made made some.
Speaker 2: Bad choices and nobody's perfect, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: But I knew that at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like I wanted to be somebody. I wanted to be
Speaker 2: somebody that was respected. I wanted to be somebody that
Speaker 2: was that that somebody could look up to, because because
Speaker 2: at that time, I was definitely nobody that you could
Speaker 2: look up to. I'm a young street motherfucker doing doing
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to survive. You do know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm on the street, I'm homeless. There was no house
Speaker 2: I could stay at when I got to San Francisco.
Speaker 3: There was no family.
Speaker 2: There was just a bunch of niggas that I met
Speaker 2: when I got there that I knew from watching on
Speaker 2: video and my skate board in my town and in
Speaker 2: my heart. So that right there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: that could take you. That could take you places for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people get conditioned with
Speaker 2: the circumstances around them that that don't allow their passion
Speaker 2: to like flurry. Because you got people saying this, you
Speaker 2: got well.
Speaker 1: It takes strength to do anything by yourself because everybody
Speaker 1: wants you know, and in the community is important. Community
Speaker 1: having people and surrounding yourself with those people is important.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is also too sometimes we just
Speaker 1: don't have that, you know what I mean. We don't
Speaker 1: have the cheerleader. We don't you know. Sometimes our parents
Speaker 1: aren't evolved. If it's because they aren't there, it's because
Speaker 1: they're working or whatever. Everybody's story is a little bit different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what's cool about the heart and the desire and the
Speaker 1: wanting to keep going and not really knowing what was
Speaker 1: going to happen in San Francisco, but knowing that if
Speaker 1: you didn't try, you would be hurting yourself more in
Speaker 1: Philly then at least trying.
Speaker 2: Too though, because I got in trouble, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and you know, to fast forward through like
Speaker 2: the story or whatever, Like my mom had to come
Speaker 2: and get me from San Francisco, you know, and.
Speaker 1: How mad was your mom?
Speaker 3: She wasn't really that mad.
Speaker 2: It's more like my mom always been supportive after like
Speaker 2: she knew that she couldn't even stop me, So shout
Speaker 2: out to her too, because she's a strong woman. She
Speaker 2: raised a crazy little dude, but she uh. When we
Speaker 2: got home back to Philadelphia, I couldn't swallow the fact that,
Speaker 2: like I was stuck in Philly because I knew that
Speaker 2: my opportunity. Not saying that I didn't love my city
Speaker 2: because I love, but just.
Speaker 1: What you were doing wasn't gonna just wasn't flourish there.
Speaker 2: Philadelphia wasn't the place for skateboarding at that time, just
Speaker 2: at just at that particular time nineteen ninety three, ninety.
Speaker 1: Four ninety five until you made a name for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but my mom felt the effects of how it
Speaker 2: made me feel, and she let me go back out there.
Speaker 3: She told me.
Speaker 4: Write choices though, Yeah, like I don't want, I don't
Speaker 4: need no shit, I don't I locked.
Speaker 2: The fuck up because you're trying to ride this fucking
Speaker 2: dumb ass skateboard.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 2: So those type of things always set in my mind
Speaker 2: of like, all right, well, not that I have to
Speaker 2: make it and MINDI it really wasn't even about being
Speaker 2: rich and famous.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be a pro.
Speaker 1: Skater doing something you're passionate about.
Speaker 2: The respect from the industry is enough when people can
Speaker 2: can can label you a pro right, you feel.
Speaker 3: Me like, that's just that's just what it is. It's dope.
Speaker 3: It's a great feeling.
Speaker 2: But to take it to the level where I'm at now,
Speaker 2: or the level that I've took it along my career
Speaker 2: where I'm at now, I'm more I'm more so like damn,
Speaker 2: reflecting on the things that I've done, the choices that
Speaker 2: I've made, the people that I helped careers as well
Speaker 2: after me like personally and ship like that under under
Speaker 2: my brand DGK and then the success of DGK as
Speaker 2: well from you know, people doubting that too. It's just
Speaker 2: it's just a lot for me to soak in and
Speaker 2: be like, damn, I want I want to keep skating.
Speaker 2: Like now, it's not even about anything else other than
Speaker 2: like can I do this whatever type shit?
Speaker 3: Feel me?
Speaker 1: Because because it is.
Speaker 3: It's a great feeling.
Speaker 1: You you know, you've in you know, encumbered everything that
Speaker 1: it is, you know what I mean. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's really fascinating to see somebody knowing that you
Speaker 1: had this passion, knowing where it was, you know, not
Speaker 1: knowing where it was going to go, but knowing that
Speaker 1: you were always going to do it at some point
Speaker 1: if it was successful because you were just riding along whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know again, that goes back to the
Speaker 1: inner child of like just making you feel free. But
Speaker 1: now you've made it a business. You've made it where
Speaker 1: you're helping people, You've made it where you've opened doors
Speaker 1: for other people, you know what I mean, And that
Speaker 1: I think is really success. That's what it's success. And
Speaker 1: the definition for myself was because you don't just take
Speaker 1: it for yourself and selfishly you're spreading your knowledge your
Speaker 1: wealth in other ways of like making it easier of
Speaker 1: a road maybe that you've had, and because you saw
Speaker 1: what that was for other kids, other you know, skateboarders
Speaker 1: and things like that, to kind of help them along
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and and and to go back to some type
Speaker 2: of advice for what I've learned now, it's more like
Speaker 2: it's just like I was just telling my mom this
Speaker 2: the other day, like whatever you're doing, like like wherever
Speaker 2: you're at, be happy with that, right, and then fall in.
Speaker 3: Love with that because that's that's where it's at.
Speaker 1: Though telling it, and it shows that's where it's at.
Speaker 1: And it shows.
Speaker 2: Because the chase is vicious and when you cross the
Speaker 2: finish line, Nigga's over. So the journey, the experience, it's
Speaker 2: dope stop.
Speaker 1: And smell of roses. It's always funny because like when
Speaker 1: you get older, it's one of those things like you
Speaker 1: hear all these cliche things and you're like, but damn it,
Speaker 1: it's true. It's what it's like because it's like you know,
Speaker 1: things like patched by like myself, Like I was thinking
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, damn, I've traveled
Speaker 1: to so many places sometimes I was over indulging in alcohol.
Speaker 1: I didn't really see it, or I didn't leave my
Speaker 1: hotel room or things like that. So the older I got,
Speaker 1: the more I was like, oh, well, let me spend
Speaker 1: an extra day because I'm already here, or let me
Speaker 1: just not drink this much so I can be aware
Speaker 1: and present. And you know what I mean, So you
Speaker 1: think of things differently. Yeah, you know, you know you're
Speaker 1: a limit. Are not your limit? You know your your
Speaker 1: balance when you're when you get older of the But
Speaker 1: but that was just things like that. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's cool to see like it in different RUMs, like
Speaker 1: in like skateboarding too. It's like it's a lucrative business.
Speaker 1: You know, you're successful. You you know, you have these
Speaker 1: brand deals, you're traveling, like you said, like not a
Speaker 1: lot of kids a get to do that, and it's
Speaker 1: not it It does seem obtained, unobtainable you know to
Speaker 1: certain people. But it's like that, you know, the pres
Speaker 1: perseverance and like, you know, the determination is really what
Speaker 1: plays out if you are going to be in that
Speaker 1: field or not.
Speaker 2: The ambition to you know what I'm saying, it take
Speaker 2: it takes a lot. I mean on some real ship.
Speaker 2: It's like some I love the basketball and I love
Speaker 2: how the athletes in the in the traditional sports are
Speaker 2: prepped for the game.
Speaker 1: The mental, well physically Okay. They have you know, people
Speaker 1: that strength and conditioning coaches, they have all yea.
Speaker 3: And they get a huge bag is it? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Similar to skateboarding.
Speaker 2: Okay, so skateboarding is, but you are they.
Speaker 1: Okay skateboarding do it all yourself, do.
Speaker 2: It all yourself, okay, making the right choices.
Speaker 1: So let's speak on that. Because you are really big
Speaker 1: into working out and fitness and as well. Is that
Speaker 1: something that you implemented throughout your career in the beginning
Speaker 1: or is it something you just recently kind of got
Speaker 1: more into just.
Speaker 2: Recently, just because right before the pandemic actually, like my
Speaker 2: homies was getting into it, and then I would look
Speaker 2: at them in the beginning and you know, just kind
Speaker 2: of like h like you know, and then me and
Speaker 2: my homie was shout out to my homie Boo Johnson
Speaker 2: because he's definitely like one of my big inspirations and
Speaker 2: in my homie Nin Williams two okay.
Speaker 3: Because we all used to travel the world together.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, so we bunch of countries
Speaker 2: wilding out shirts off whatever, right, and then lots of
Speaker 2: girls just you know, girls just life, right, I would say.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And then one time we was in Barcelona and we
Speaker 2: was at the beach and I was with my partner
Speaker 2: and then Boo and the other homies was over like
Speaker 2: playing frisbee or something like just having fun or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't find them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, where they at? I can't fucking see him.
Speaker 2: Usually I could spot like Boo and like few other homies,
Speaker 2: and like my homie was like, that's them right there.
Speaker 2: And I looked and I seen Boo and I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, like, yo, you, I didn't even know that
Speaker 2: was you, Like you look like something. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I've been working out and.
Speaker 1: And I was like wow, Like he's all chiseled up.
Speaker 2: Chiseled like just looking just looking dope, like as an athlete,
Speaker 2: looking really athletical. Right, Yeah, skaters, you know, we do
Speaker 2: lower body in like mid section core, but nothing like
Speaker 2: above that, right, So as you get older, you don't
Speaker 2: want to have you know, well, me, I didn't want
Speaker 2: to have the like the nephew body, that's what we
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 1: I doesn't say Dad, Okay.
Speaker 2: No, the nephew, like the little boy nephew body. You
Speaker 2: know you're skating, You're not going to really get too big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just to like nephew body.
Speaker 2: I started asking him for tips him and my homie Nan,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then kind of right
Speaker 2: before the pandemic hit, I started taking some boot camp
Speaker 2: classes for core workouts. And my uncle he has a gym.
Speaker 2: He's big on like martial arts and working, and everybody
Speaker 2: tried to get me in.
Speaker 1: The gym, but you got to go your own, your
Speaker 1: own time, because I feel like once it's forced upon you,
Speaker 1: you're just like you have to like fall in love
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: And you need the education too. You can go to
Speaker 2: the gym and not know what the you're doing and
Speaker 2: and and you ain't.
Speaker 1: Gonna get no results for sure, especially with like your body,
Speaker 1: like what your your goals are, like if it's for skating,
Speaker 1: if it's your core and whatever, you know, your boy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say bottom heavy, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like you know, you wouldn't know, like given myself,
Speaker 1: like when I I was athletic my whole life and
Speaker 1: played basketball and all those things, and so I was
Speaker 1: always athletic. But when I got out of not being
Speaker 1: trained for so long, it's like I got a trainer
Speaker 1: because I don't know how to do certain things. And
Speaker 1: I mean like I can go in the gym and
Speaker 1: do just stuff, but it doesn't know if you're not
Speaker 1: doing it on a certain routine and a certain day,
Speaker 1: like where you're not going to see results, and people
Speaker 1: get discouraged and then it's like why are we here?
Speaker 1: So it's really like when I when.
Speaker 2: I was looking at my homies that skate and kind
Speaker 2: to seeing them work out, I'm not following their transformation.
Speaker 2: I'm not following their journey. I'm not involved in their
Speaker 2: life that much where I'm like, what's your routine?
Speaker 3: Like what are you eating? Whatever?
Speaker 2: But I started paying attention because now I'm now I'm
Speaker 2: going to the gym. I got a whole new set
Speaker 2: of people that I'm around that I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I'm like nervous, to be honest with you, but it's
Speaker 2: that athletic shit that kicking to be like, you know what,
Speaker 2: fuck this shit, I'm about to knock this shit out.
Speaker 2: Though first class was hard as shit, and then after
Speaker 2: that it was just like, all right, well this is it.
Speaker 1: You just keep showing.
Speaker 2: That was three years ago, right, So within that process
Speaker 2: I came up, I went down. I was uneducated. Nutrition,
Speaker 2: you know, spring my back like all types of shit.
Speaker 2: You feel me to have it like, all right, well
Speaker 2: what do I need to do to be who I
Speaker 2: need to be? You feel question? That's that's that's the
Speaker 2: type of ship I asked myself. And then you have
Speaker 2: to talk to yourself like you your own you're you're
Speaker 2: in your own head. So what am I asking myself
Speaker 2: so I can perform better, so I could look better,
Speaker 2: so I could be educated more on like what I
Speaker 2: need to do to be who I want to be?
Speaker 3: I want to be?
Speaker 2: The answer was nutrition, It was routine, it was discipline,
Speaker 2: It was knocking out bad habits. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and overall just knowing, like having a set goal for
Speaker 2: like what I want to look like, how I want
Speaker 2: to perform, and what I want to do with with
Speaker 2: the results that I that I do.
Speaker 1: You feel like you've reached that peak.
Speaker 3: I just had actually no doubt.
Speaker 1: Okay, congratulations, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Week last week?
Speaker 1: Now was there a goal?
Speaker 3: Though it's not like I reached my goal and.
Speaker 2: Then I'm here for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything changes. How I how I thought last
Speaker 1: week wasn't the same, how I think this week.
Speaker 2: If it's well tonight m hm, and I'm like fuck it,
Speaker 2: give me the fucking cheeseburger whatever, and I'm eating the
Speaker 2: fries or yeah.
Speaker 1: We start, So you're still living life. It's just with
Speaker 1: this it's like you know, And that's I think it's
Speaker 1: important too, is why people stay consistent or more consistent,
Speaker 1: because I don't feel like when you're so strict and
Speaker 1: you have no room to budge, it's easy to just
Speaker 1: be like that.
Speaker 2: That's a part of the journey understanding that part too,
Speaker 2: of like fuck, like I can't eat this, but it's like,
Speaker 2: yeah you can. It's like, but what are you doing?
Speaker 2: That's the question that you can always Well, I feel
Speaker 2: like that's the question. You can always ask yourself, like
Speaker 2: what is the purpose of.
Speaker 3: Me doing this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, and then you could make the choice. True you
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying. I feel like for me, I
Speaker 2: might not do that, but me I'm nerdy.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like it's like mind well, as they say,
Speaker 1: it's like being mindful eating or mindful whatever, like I mean,
Speaker 1: and so it's like you have to really be conscious.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm setting true intentions, like what is
Speaker 1: the purpose of this and why am I doing? Am
Speaker 1: I doing it? Because a lot of food stuff comes
Speaker 1: from like not to go back to childhood stuff whatever,
Speaker 1: but like the triggers and trauma releases, like some certain
Speaker 1: people like sweets for certain emotional reasons. Some people like
Speaker 1: salty because they're sad whatever things. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: about the program programming yourself to getting better habits.
Speaker 3: Reconditioning yourself. Yes, and then also.
Speaker 2: The environment that you that you go to in the
Speaker 2: gym to make.
Speaker 1: It comfortable, back to community, community, and.
Speaker 2: How comfortable you feel with the people that you're working
Speaker 2: out around. Because mind you, I still do classes every day.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Shout out to my gym
Speaker 2: class because those are my dogs. But it's something that
Speaker 2: I implemented into my life and it's something that that
Speaker 2: I'm proud of.
Speaker 1: It's a lifestyle now, yeah, and I think it's important to.
Speaker 2: See it's like good, Like.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't want to have to run a
Speaker 1: thirty more minutes because I gotta do or I gotta
Speaker 1: do this, like.
Speaker 2: If I know, like, all right, last night I went
Speaker 2: out and I got lit, and then I went into
Speaker 2: the gym this morning and I'm like, bro, I'm fucking hungover, yo,
Speaker 2: Like I.
Speaker 1: Ain't even gonna go dehydrated, like I always out a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of like you know, just but the effort goes a
Speaker 2: long way. You do what I'm saying, and you still
Speaker 2: will get the results if you put the work in
Speaker 2: because your intention is to stay My intention is to
Speaker 2: stay on the routine.
Speaker 1: And you still showed up for yourself. You're not. It's
Speaker 1: not like, oh I had a bad night, I can't
Speaker 1: show up.
Speaker 2: Integrity is about I had to learn that too. Integrity
Speaker 2: is about completion, It's about being whold. It's about understanding,
Speaker 2: like the choice that you made living with that.
Speaker 1: Ship, and a lot of people don't know what integrity
Speaker 1: is or know how to live by it. I feel like,
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, it's it's it's easy to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but I think it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a choice. It's something that you live you.
Speaker 3: Know for sure. And part of.
Speaker 2: Seminars and shit, I used to go to a bunch
Speaker 2: of seminars and shit.
Speaker 1: So who were some of your people skaters that you
Speaker 1: kind of looked up to that kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: back of y'all ten ten years old watching the VHS.
Speaker 1: Who were people that you kind of looked up to
Speaker 1: or you liked their tricks? Try to find you know,
Speaker 1: their whole thing. Is there any any one person? Is
Speaker 1: there multiple people?
Speaker 3: There's a few people.
Speaker 2: Two people got Mariano Henry Sanchez, and I felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: Peppi Martinez, rest in peace, that's my homie. I felt
Speaker 2: like there was no black them, So in my mind,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be the black Henry Sanchez, the black
Speaker 2: Peppy Martinez.
Speaker 3: You feel me. And it's not even about race and
Speaker 3: shit like that.
Speaker 2: It's just when you're a kid, you got these things
Speaker 2: in your mind that you just want to, like, feel like,
Speaker 2: how like, how can I express myself in the same
Speaker 2: manner that I look up to these dudes without being
Speaker 2: like them.
Speaker 1: I just want myself.
Speaker 2: I'm going to always be myself, but I want the
Speaker 2: skill set. How do I get this skill set?
Speaker 3: You feel me?
Speaker 2: Because this skill set I see everybody drooling over and
Speaker 2: that's the motherfuckers. I want to be, and I became them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying for my culture, like inner
Speaker 2: city skaters that probably would get overlooked for being too
Speaker 2: thugged out, you know what I'm saying, trouble makers just
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: But that's amazing to be in a field and be
Speaker 1: a pioneer in those things. It's because there shouldn't be
Speaker 1: reason why it shouldn't be that way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And someone identifying being yourself of like not
Speaker 1: having ever being around like who knows who who brought
Speaker 1: the skateboard into your life for the very first time.
Speaker 3: Rest in peace, my cousin Kevin.
Speaker 1: Because some of the given those things, like some people
Speaker 1: aren't even around skateboarder or even know that that's a sport,
Speaker 1: or even because my.
Speaker 2: Cousin Kevin he gave me, he got me a skateboard
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. But it wasn't like on.
Speaker 3: The like pro shit.
Speaker 1: It was just like for sure, I mean at that
Speaker 1: time you know what I mean too, It's like like
Speaker 1: you said.
Speaker 2: But when I started actually really skating. And this is
Speaker 2: a funny story because I told my homies.
Speaker 3: About this the other day.
Speaker 2: Because I always give him his props and his flowers
Speaker 2: because he didn't get a chance to see me rock
Speaker 2: like how I'm doing it, especially at this level. But
Speaker 2: it's because of him that I rocked so hard at
Speaker 2: this level because in Philadelphia and how I was, me
Speaker 2: and my homies was dressing back in the day as skaters,
Speaker 2: you could kind of say we would be considered like
Speaker 2: hipsters or where those right, it's acceptable now, but like
Speaker 2: we talking about back then, right, and and where I'm
Speaker 2: from in the hood, that ship is unacceptable. Right to
Speaker 2: be aware though, to fucking look embarrassing your family by
Speaker 2: looking like a fucking clown and then riding my fucking skateboard,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just it's hard, right. So he basically
Speaker 2: approached me one day and was like, Brah, like fuck
Speaker 2: do you have on this ship? And I'm like, no, me,
Speaker 2: I used to have dreads and ship And I'm like,
Speaker 2: if you don't like my style, and it's whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm super defensive because I'm already dealing with just the
Speaker 2: backlash of riding the skateboard or whatever. And he like, no,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We love you, I love you,
Speaker 2: just you know, switch it up, go back to like
Speaker 2: go back to how we taught you how to dress.
Speaker 2: That's you know what I mean, Like, ain't knowing what
Speaker 2: you running the skateboard. I watch you skate all day, Like.
Speaker 1: You did you think that two couldn't happen?
Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 2: Because when you're when you're a inner city kid, especially
Speaker 2: at this time, riding skateboard, you will be considered like
Speaker 2: an outcaster, a white kid, a suburban motherfucker, like.
Speaker 3: A cornball, right, But.
Speaker 2: The neighborhood has no choice but to like outcast you
Speaker 2: and shit right, And then the switch is more like okay,
Speaker 2: when you're too street and you're too neighborhood ish, or
Speaker 2: you too black or hispanic or whatever, they don't really
Speaker 2: fuck with you like that, so you have to switch.
Speaker 2: And that's why you see a lot of kids, well
Speaker 2: back then and probably now too, at that age of ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 2: you're trying to find your identity. So you're like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I know I come from this, but like, no, it's
Speaker 2: not that I like this. It's that if I want
Speaker 2: to get sponsored by these companies, I have to switch.
Speaker 2: So these guys might not understand what I'm doing, but
Speaker 2: I need to adapt to this new thing that I'm about,
Speaker 2: which is skateboarding. Right, And at that time, that wasn't
Speaker 2: too many styles.
Speaker 3: He was like pop, punk, rock, rock and roll.
Speaker 2: A little bit of hip hop, and just one hip hop,
Speaker 2: like underground hip hop, dope shit, and that's it, right.
Speaker 2: So what I was able to do, and what my
Speaker 2: cousin was able to do, was tell me, get back
Speaker 2: to your roots, keep skateboarding, but don't forget how to dress.
Speaker 2: Don't forget just be h y'all, be black, nigga. That's
Speaker 2: basically what he's saying. And I'm like, you know, but
Speaker 2: then it hit me. You know, I cut my dreads
Speaker 2: at the time, I stole some of my mom clothed
Speaker 2: my mom boyfriend closed you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: had my mom take the rest of my hair and
Speaker 2: corn roll it, and my whole style changed over. I
Speaker 2: went from like this backpack rapper kind of skaters slash
Speaker 2: where the old hipster dude, to like.
Speaker 3: Now looking like a regular person per se.
Speaker 2: Right, But what that does, what that did was it
Speaker 2: showed my industry at that time, and I wasn't even
Speaker 2: a top skater but it identified me like, well.
Speaker 1: I'm just still gonna be yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Right, it just did.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even know the power of it until
Speaker 2: it actually until I was actually sponsored by a major
Speaker 2: brand and they put me in their video, and then
Speaker 2: all of the kids around the world was able to
Speaker 2: look at me and say, I don't have to wear
Speaker 2: this corny shit because he makes it look good. And
Speaker 2: he's on chocolate skateboards. So if he can make it
Speaker 2: on chocolate skateboards by still looking like he from the street,
Speaker 2: then fuck it, that's what we're doing. And then and
Speaker 2: then the whole game change, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, your cousin definitely seemed like he was ahead
Speaker 1: ahead of his time, because it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that it's it's crazy now you know, we're you know, older,
Speaker 1: obviously it's time has changed, but you live that because
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're a kid and you went through
Speaker 1: those phases of you know, I feel like we as society,
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes like we pigeonhole people who are
Speaker 1: talented because everyone needs to be in a box. It's
Speaker 1: too much this, too much, that, too much whatever, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because if you just allowed people to be themselves.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're like the their creative selves and
Speaker 1: like their inner child like artists would explore it like
Speaker 1: flourish more because you didn't know any different other than
Speaker 1: seeing what was supposed to be how skateboarders were. But
Speaker 1: you love it and you are who you are. You
Speaker 1: dress like you wanted to dress, and why should that
Speaker 1: be an issue because that doesn't affect your talent. It doesn't, well,
Speaker 1: well clearly, but I'm just saying it's a differ and
Speaker 1: time of whatever is that, but you kind of created
Speaker 1: and molded something that was different, that was I don't
Speaker 1: have to be anyone other than myself, because why should
Speaker 1: clothes identify me any different than my skill? Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, I'm I'm deep as far
Speaker 1: as now as like the older either that we are
Speaker 1: and like when you you know myself, I was always
Speaker 1: told you're too much, you're this, you're too whatever, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, well damn you when you hear that
Speaker 1: too much? You don't want to be sticking out because
Speaker 1: you want to be And that's I mean, I'm an
Speaker 1: equivalency of I fucked, Like you know, I'm unapologetically myself
Speaker 1: and for me it's like people may not identify with
Speaker 1: that sometimes, but it's my own path. It was your
Speaker 1: own path, and you were meant to be on that
Speaker 1: path because look at you've been successful for over thirty
Speaker 1: plus years and you know in the industry that you
Speaker 1: loved as a child, and I feel like it should
Speaker 1: be yeah and that and that's very unique and really
Speaker 1: cool to like be a trend setter and like to
Speaker 1: really break down those you know, cliche like stereotypical, like
Speaker 1: it has to be this way, like why like you know,
Speaker 1: if someone wants to do whatever, that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: powerful and I think it's really it speaks volumes of
Speaker 1: who you are as a person and the integrity and
Speaker 1: you know, the respect that you have in your community
Speaker 1: that they still want to be a part of what
Speaker 1: you have. And I think that's really cool to see
Speaker 1: how that all plays out to.
Speaker 2: Like my skate team, my partner, the operations of d GK.
Speaker 2: For sure, it's like it's a lot that goes into
Speaker 2: a legacy.
Speaker 1: It's an enterprise for sure.
Speaker 3: For sure, and then to.
Speaker 2: Live live it, it's pretty dope. And that goes back
Speaker 2: to the first question, right of like me skating, what
Speaker 2: am I doing it for? And then what do I
Speaker 2: tell myself every day is shit? I wanta do this
Speaker 2: shit forever, yo, So now I got to invest into
Speaker 2: like doing it because the nigga old and and and.
Speaker 3: I still have the same passion.
Speaker 2: But I can't really perform at a level that I
Speaker 2: want to unless I invest back into what's what's what's right? Right,
Speaker 2: you gotta invest back into sour. You gotta gotta order
Speaker 2: the plant for sure. So that's what I do now,
Speaker 2: like I ordered a plant.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm a father of three, so.
Speaker 2: That's like my huge responsibility, like moral responsibility that I
Speaker 2: don't avoid. So I make sure that that's their top priority.
Speaker 1: Do any of them skateboard?
Speaker 2: My youngest one he skates, he's dope. He around all
Speaker 2: of the homies. He wanted the homies. My oldest son
Speaker 2: he plays ball. And my daughter she just went to college.
Speaker 2: So you know, keeping keeping these type of things in
Speaker 2: line for for a legacy with my branch.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: That don't have anything to do with business or skateboarding
Speaker 2: or any of that stuff. It's more like my experience
Speaker 2: is what I learned being able to share these things right,
Speaker 2: and then also sit back and look at them and
Speaker 2: be like, damn, I'm glad I made certain choices because
Speaker 2: it ain't hard. I mean, it's not easy, and it's
Speaker 2: very hard to have a full blown career and also
Speaker 2: be like a father, like full time father. That shit
Speaker 2: is impossible. So that's a lot of the time I want.
Speaker 2: I can't get back from having a career and chasing
Speaker 2: my goals. So now that they're all accomplished, like pretty much,
Speaker 2: setting new goals would be like being more of a
Speaker 2: like adope dad, like being like a outstanding influencer skater, like.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if we spoke to your kids, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they would say, you're a dope dad. I think that
Speaker 1: it's always great to have you know, new goals, new
Speaker 1: and you know, you said certain things and then like
Speaker 1: you kind of see them through your your kids and
Speaker 1: then you know, you see that you know and all
Speaker 1: the things that it maybe you could have done a
Speaker 1: little different for yourself and guide them to where you
Speaker 1: give them a better path to have those things that
Speaker 1: are meant for them as well life than I did.
Speaker 3: For sure. I mean, these kids today is fucking crazy. Shit.
Speaker 3: I ain't even gonna lie.
Speaker 2: But it goes back to like why I do things
Speaker 2: and while I wake up in the morning and like
Speaker 2: what I'm doing for because this is what I chose
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, So it's a lot of responsibilities that
Speaker 2: come with being an entrepreneur. There's a lot of responsibilities
Speaker 2: that come with being a professional skater, being a dad,
Speaker 2: being a friend, and and trying to find other people's
Speaker 2: intentions on their friendship. Like it's a lot, but what
Speaker 2: it can all go back to is like, well, what
Speaker 2: is my purpose?
Speaker 3: What am I doing here?
Speaker 2: You feel me if it's not right, if it's not
Speaker 2: for like what I think I want to do, and
Speaker 2: I don't need to fuck that's like my mentality.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been anything that as just as big
Speaker 1: as skateboarding been something that you find is your purpose
Speaker 1: besides being a dad?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, what is that?
Speaker 3: Web three?
Speaker 1: Web three? Okay? Have you been in Web three very long?
Speaker 1: Because I know it is very It's something that's been
Speaker 1: around obviously for a little bit. But like I mean,
Speaker 1: I've hears started hearing like two years ago. Every time
Speaker 1: every conversation, I feel like I get a little bit
Speaker 1: more knowledge, a little bit more, you know, because it
Speaker 1: is a new or a thing for people you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it's kind of sometimes unobtainable to
Speaker 1: people because it seems like a non existent world.
Speaker 2: Well it's only obtainable to people because motherfuckers don't read.
Speaker 1: They rather go off of like which somebody posted in
Speaker 1: some of these like just houses.
Speaker 2: Hearsay and then not really fully like diving in on everything,
Speaker 2: and then, like I said, finding the actual purpose of
Speaker 2: your direction of what you want to do like that
Speaker 2: shit ain't easy.
Speaker 1: So what are you planning to do with web three
Speaker 1: and what is your purpose within web?
Speaker 3: Well? My purpose is to.
Speaker 2: Is to duplicate my career, you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: but in a digital way, because like everybody now is
Speaker 2: so content driven, right, We've been skating. I've been skating
Speaker 2: for over thirty years. We've been making content. That's how
Speaker 2: you get put on before social media.
Speaker 1: Before with your VHS records on the shoulder, everybody was
Speaker 1: a caravan from.
Speaker 2: VHS to High eight to whatever to where we're at now.
Speaker 2: So now they're trying to go back to you know,
Speaker 2: vs V whatever, you know, whatever it is, VHEX.
Speaker 1: It sounds so ancient now, it's like what were you
Speaker 1: said that was like the only way to watch now.
Speaker 2: It's like with the death ends and the whole none,
Speaker 2: it's dope though, right the journey, right, yeah, the journey,
Speaker 2: but everything that that that's that's being pretty much how
Speaker 2: can I say without confusing. You can duplicate anything and
Speaker 2: everything if you understand how web three works with the economics,
Speaker 2: the digital assets, the Web three platforms and all of
Speaker 2: this type of stuff. But it's hard to find a direction.
Speaker 2: So my goal is to create a path for people
Speaker 2: like myself that's into lifestyle and culture and and identify
Speaker 2: the services that they need so they could actually like
Speaker 2: onboard easier than just like it being too complicated. It's
Speaker 2: very complicated. The onboarding process is fucking complicated.
Speaker 1: It's new. I feel like exactly what I feel like,
Speaker 1: the more that you speak about it, the more that
Speaker 1: people could be educated on it. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like it is a little bit
Speaker 1: where it's like it is going back to school. It
Speaker 1: is something new. So it's like we all we have
Speaker 1: to be educated on the term.
Speaker 2: You need the time for the process and then you
Speaker 2: need to find a direction. Right, And it's not a
Speaker 2: get rich quick scheme. It's it's an investment it's an investment.
Speaker 3: Of time, money, and education, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I spent the last three and a half
Speaker 2: years studying figuring out like what I wanted to do,
Speaker 2: how I want to do shit, what I wanted to
Speaker 2: invest in, how much money I don't want to lose
Speaker 2: type shit. I'm not really I'm not a gambler like
Speaker 2: that gamble and shit like. So I'm more like, you know,
Speaker 2: calculated bets type shit. Feel me or where I'm at now? Development? Okay,
Speaker 2: So if I could have the foresight to develop things
Speaker 2: for all of us to enjoy, then that's like what
Speaker 2: I'm into. So I have an NFT marketplace that I've
Speaker 2: been working on with my partner, and that also led
Speaker 2: me to understand that I may want to.
Speaker 3: Create a network.
Speaker 2: You do know what I'm saying on on on some
Speaker 2: crazy cool shit like my own network and developing things
Speaker 2: for people to to utilize moving forward, you know, as
Speaker 2: as people understand how to on board, because I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be a teacher for sure, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to help you on board, Like I'm not even really
Speaker 2: on that type of ship. Yeah, like find your fucking books.
Speaker 1: Holler at me when you yeah, when you get to
Speaker 1: a certain level level once you know the basis of
Speaker 1: what it is and you want to enter this program.
Speaker 2: And let me know, yeah, I don't have the time to.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, I started hear about two
Speaker 1: years ago. I myself have my own things that I've
Speaker 1: worked on an NFT market an NFT marketplace myself and
Speaker 1: doing your own network where it comes with a lot
Speaker 1: of talking to people that are you know, more educated
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like literally I would have I would have
Speaker 1: a Zoom meeting like once a week with people from Europe,
Speaker 1: from like all over the world, Australia and like coming
Speaker 1: together and like really building like what this platform and
Speaker 1: things that we wanted to do is. But it definitely is.
Speaker 1: It's something that it takes a little bit more than
Speaker 1: just a conversation to be educated on something like that
Speaker 1: because it is what is next. And I think that.
Speaker 2: Your passion in this because if you believe that this
Speaker 2: will be the future, then they will. I believe that
Speaker 2: I was going to be a pro skater. I knew
Speaker 2: I was going to travel the world. I didn't know
Speaker 2: how I was going to do that shit, but I
Speaker 2: knew that what I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be a dad too, and that's where
Speaker 3: I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, then what you said when I'm into yeah, like,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what I'm into. Web three. Understanding everything my.
Speaker 1: Direction that's amazing and.
Speaker 2: Being able to pioneer this as authentic as possible from
Speaker 2: my own intentions for my culture, lifestyle and culture. I
Speaker 2: feel like there's nobody in a way right now to
Speaker 2: tell me I can't do what I want to do
Speaker 2: like there was back in the day. Yeah, fucking duplicate
Speaker 2: that shit, rearrange some shit, add some homies, find the
Speaker 2: right path and just knock shit out.
Speaker 3: It's all about developing.
Speaker 1: Well, you've seem passionate about it. I think you know
Speaker 1: it'll be successful. It's you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: think that it's just all that what your own intention
Speaker 1: is behind it. And then it seems like you're on
Speaker 1: the right path of you know, recreating and you already
Speaker 1: know what you're going to be doing. So I look
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what that is once it all comes
Speaker 1: into fruition. But good luck to team with that. I
Speaker 1: think that that's that's really cool to like, it's a
Speaker 1: new whole new avenue. We should do something, for sure,
Speaker 1: I would be totally done. So what would you say
Speaker 1: is unique about you? We've talked about the skateboarding with
Speaker 1: the dad, We've talked about what your passions are now
Speaker 1: overall within who Stevie Williams is, what is unique about you?
Speaker 3: Damn? I don't know. I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go we can think about that one. If
Speaker 1: you could change jobs, would you? And what would you
Speaker 1: do instead?
Speaker 2: If I can change jobs? Would I know?
Speaker 1: No, so you would?
Speaker 2: But I do dream about other things that I will
Speaker 2: possibly be doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, can we who I am? What would that be?
Speaker 1: What have you dreams about? A rapper? Do you do
Speaker 1: you wrap in private with your friends? Do you have
Speaker 1: you have you? Can? You? Can you do it a freestyle?
Speaker 1: Can you give us You're not gonna give us an exclusive?
Speaker 1: You can't just rap about Miss Texas right now? Off
Speaker 1: the head like no, nothing, No, I that all right?
Speaker 2: But hey, usually it's usually.
Speaker 3: Bottles deep.
Speaker 1: There's not enough costs of egos here. It's early, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I know you have you have
Speaker 1: to go with through kids later. So I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: give you.
Speaker 2: Any tequila right now. It's a blank. But when I'm
Speaker 2: drunk and that ship popping. I got a lot to say.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you regret saying no to?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Hell yeah?
Speaker 1: What is what is your top one? If you could
Speaker 1: go back and change that, what would it be? Is
Speaker 1: there maybe a deal, a sponsorship somebody that you you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a tour or.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that everything happens for a reason, right,
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, like if I didn't get this,
Speaker 2: then that would have happened, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But we're going some fantasy ship.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we want to know.
Speaker 3: This is a cool one. I wish. I don't wish, but.
Speaker 2: There was a point where I was supposed to sign
Speaker 2: to Ice cring with for real and I didn't and
Speaker 2: I didn't And even though I don't live with that
Speaker 2: regret anymore.
Speaker 1: But if you went back and had a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people lived with that regret when I said no,
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: The choice of words is very powerful.
Speaker 2: Yes, So it wasn't my regret at the time. I'm
Speaker 2: the motherfucker that said no. But but the way it
Speaker 2: hit it hit different where everybody was like, damn, you
Speaker 2: didn't do that, you didn't do that.
Speaker 3: But and then that that set me back. Actually, they
Speaker 3: sent me.
Speaker 1: Back personally or within work, like what said you by.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen personally until I've seen the effects of
Speaker 2: how it set me back in my career for what,
Speaker 2: For what my true intention and goal was for what
Speaker 2: Stevie wanted to do, and at that time it was
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a lot and I and I
Speaker 2: was blind. I was very blind. I can admit that
Speaker 2: I was very blind.
Speaker 1: But we say everything happens for a reason. And you
Speaker 1: know what, You're sitting here at the private Todd couch
Speaker 1: with Missus Texas. You've got three beautiful kids, You've got
Speaker 1: your Web three coming out, You've got your own I don't.
Speaker 3: Look at it like that, though.
Speaker 1: How do you like?
Speaker 3: I'm not like.
Speaker 2: And it's not to say that what you said is spiteful.
Speaker 2: I'm not a spiteful person. So my get back is
Speaker 2: definitely success. I ninety five percent of my life I
Speaker 2: stropped to make the right choice. So my results should
Speaker 2: reflect everything you said, right, I'm confident in that what
Speaker 2: it was for me personally, it was the fact that
Speaker 2: the way people treated me in the way that my
Speaker 2: career shifted so fast off of that one choice that
Speaker 2: I should have thought about and I didn't. It affected
Speaker 2: me and my self esteem. It did big time, big time,
Speaker 2: because I had to watch Pharrell signed somebody else and
Speaker 2: everybody knew that.
Speaker 3: Was my spot.
Speaker 1: And that was based off solely because of outside validation.
Speaker 2: That was basically off of a nigga like me that said.
Speaker 1: No, I'm good, but you were here. You were seeing
Speaker 1: the negative parts of what people were saying because they
Speaker 1: saw whatever. So it's it's the still we seek validation
Speaker 1: from others and peers, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, things like that validation from my friends. I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't give a fun.
Speaker 1: But at that moment in time, could you say that
Speaker 1: safe sentence my friends? So your friends were the ones
Speaker 1: saying that. Okay, So it wasn't even okay okay, that
Speaker 1: hits a little deeper talk about it.
Speaker 2: And they asked me why. Some of my homies already
Speaker 2: knew why, because how I rock. And then also the
Speaker 2: opportunity that came with why, I said no, okay, right,
Speaker 2: But fast forward on some some g ship. I've seen
Speaker 2: phar Real, probably a couple like a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago or whatever, and.
Speaker 3: I spoke to him about it, and uh, And I.
Speaker 2: Apologized and I thanked him right because the way I
Speaker 2: acted was out of insecurity and and and hurt. I
Speaker 2: can wholeheartly admit that ship right, It's all good. But
Speaker 2: then second was the fact that I didn't I was
Speaker 2: so blind that I didn't acknowledge how impactful what he
Speaker 2: was trying to do was was?
Speaker 3: Was was that impactful for the culture?
Speaker 1: Did you receive? Did he receive? How did he receive that?
Speaker 3: Dope? We had a great conversations.
Speaker 1: Because that's a very that's a very manly adult thing
Speaker 1: to own up to something if it was a certain
Speaker 1: time in your life, is because you were a younger
Speaker 1: knowledge but whatever the case may be, that we sometimes
Speaker 1: have a hard time admitting our faults and actually having
Speaker 1: a grown man conversation about what that really was. Because
Speaker 1: it wasn't slight him, it wasn't doing whatever it was,
Speaker 1: but for you, it was you were in a different
Speaker 1: place and you know what I mean. And so that's
Speaker 1: that's cool, cool to kind of have the full circle.
Speaker 2: I felt like I owed him that right, and then
Speaker 2: I also felt like I owed.
Speaker 3: Myself that closure.
Speaker 2: That's deep because I talked to myself a lot and
Speaker 2: I like to walk myself through incidents and choices that
Speaker 2: I made that we talk about regrets and on some
Speaker 2: fantasy shit. You know, I've been in that fantasy world,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, well, what would my life be
Speaker 2: like if I did sign to him? Oh yeah, it
Speaker 2: would have been popping. It would have been that, but
Speaker 2: it could have been short lived.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I probably would have got instant gratification, but I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have got any longevity.
Speaker 1: Right for sure.
Speaker 2: So it goes back to everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 2: And then how I could actually tell phar real thank
Speaker 2: you because I appreciate you helping me push the culture
Speaker 2: that much more forward because a nigga like me ain't
Speaker 2: gonna never give up. So at that time, it was
Speaker 2: it was great. You know what I'm saying. He respected it,
Speaker 2: I respect him, and I don't want anything. I don't
Speaker 2: want a deal. I don't really want to even be famous.
Speaker 1: That's the most beautiful thing is when you don't want it.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything because we don't want you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't want to need anything.
Speaker 1: I just want to bet that's happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: So nothing phazes me like that like, I'm not don't
Speaker 2: chase money, Like I'm not really into that shit. So
Speaker 2: when I see somebody that was a reflection of a
Speaker 2: choice that I should have made, I can honestly say
Speaker 2: thank you dog for helping me because since I didn't stop.
Speaker 2: DGK is authentic. Yes, that's a part of my story.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like he was there to
Speaker 2: help everybody that didn't know about skateboarding. He put it
Speaker 2: in such a she put it on a big screen
Speaker 2: with Snoop and Pharrell was skating and it was dope.
Speaker 2: And then you got other people that came after him
Speaker 2: that may or may not have helped push the culture forward.
Speaker 2: But where I stand at is, you can't push me out.
Speaker 1: Of the culture though you are in the culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm happy with that though me and my homies,
Speaker 2: though it's not just me. I got a bunch of
Speaker 2: people that didn't make it as big as me behind me.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like, you know, I wrap all
Speaker 2: of us. So sometimes I'm like, let me keep them
Speaker 2: off shut you feel me sure, I'm not gonna set
Speaker 2: us back if it ain't necessarily like worth it, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll I'll fuck around So.
Speaker 1: With Thabbing said our last question before truth with Texas,
Speaker 1: who you seem very You're very wise, You're very knowledgeable
Speaker 1: in a lot of things. Who do you go to
Speaker 1: advice for.
Speaker 3: My dad, my mom?
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy as it sounds my fucking friends too, But
Speaker 4: that's not crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean again, if you have a community that you
Speaker 1: said you're very you sound very sound, you're very good,
Speaker 1: you know with all those things and internalizing even you
Speaker 1: know who you are, you know, you go through things
Speaker 1: and like if you replay them yourself whatever, So keeping
Speaker 1: a close community around you that you trust, then you
Speaker 1: know that doesn't mean that's a bad thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I mean my trust. I don't trust a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and I don't really trust people with my feelings. So
Speaker 2: the people that I do have feelings for, whether they
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, fuck them. Niggas ain't been through
Speaker 2: half of the shit I've been through, but they know
Speaker 2: that I still value their advice, like over somebody that
Speaker 2: have degrees and all of this.
Speaker 3: So whild shit because not a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people have been through what I've been through,
Speaker 2: So like, what type of advice could you really give
Speaker 2: a nigga like me? Not even on know, like arrogant shit,
Speaker 2: because I'm always open for advisors for my direction, but
Speaker 2: when it comes to like being institutionalized and conditioned, like
Speaker 2: I'm not really I'm not.
Speaker 3: Really there for that type of advice.
Speaker 2: So my homies, you know, when they know my career,
Speaker 2: the moves I made, things like that, It's like, then,
Speaker 2: what like what should I do?
Speaker 3: Like things?
Speaker 1: They know it would be your best interest because they
Speaker 1: know how you moved. I get that. Well, now you
Speaker 1: have doctor Texas. I'm not a doctor, but I am
Speaker 1: a Texas doctor and all things that are not.
Speaker 3: Low key. I've definitely been a fan tho.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Coming on right, I appreciate you. Well, now we're getting
Speaker 1: to the fun part. We're playing Truth with Texas. The
Speaker 1: Truth with Texas. We're going to have four cards. Each
Speaker 1: card is an ace. Each suit is a different type
Speaker 1: of question. I'll ask you a couple of questions within
Speaker 1: each one, and then you can ask me a question
Speaker 1: at the end. Would you like to hit this joint?
Speaker 5: Yes, you can move your mic all right, So first card,
Speaker 5: here we go.
Speaker 1: Pick one. Let us know what it is, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: Ace of diamonds. I'm a lot of things, but I
Speaker 1: can't read minds. But ace of diamonds. Let's see is
Speaker 1: a spicy question. What is let's see, let's start you
Speaker 1: off with something. Have you ever fallen asleep during sex?
Speaker 3: Damn? Technically yes?
Speaker 1: What is technically?
Speaker 2: Us?
Speaker 1: But don't be bullshitting us here at private talk, we
Speaker 1: want the truth.
Speaker 3: I didn't even get to the sex, So.
Speaker 1: You fell asleep eating her pussy or she was eating
Speaker 1: or she was sucking your dick.
Speaker 2: I didn't even get to that. I fell asleep.
Speaker 1: Kissing the titties and you just fell asleep.
Speaker 2: This fucked up?
Speaker 3: Is that? I woke up still.
Speaker 1: On the titties. You just kept going.
Speaker 2: Have you left me? Like? You just left me there?
Speaker 2: It looks so cute.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, but.
Speaker 1: That's like, what's the longest you've gone without sex?
Speaker 2: I like two months?
Speaker 1: Two months in your whole life? That's you've got only
Speaker 1: gone that long?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: You like to fuck a lot? Got it? I mean
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's I did porn for ten years of
Speaker 1: my life, so it's you. I have no I don't
Speaker 1: judge here at private talk, just asking questions. I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't get to know the
Speaker 1: hard questions sometimes, and I'm sure you would like to
Speaker 1: know a little bit more about you. Have you ever
Speaker 1: broken up with someone because they were bad in bed?
Speaker 3: No? But I have had a dead fish?
Speaker 1: Did you repeat a bend?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: You just never went back.
Speaker 2: I went fishing again.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, you're saying, okay.
Speaker 3: So we weren't technically together, but you.
Speaker 1: Said dad fish. So i' miss singing. She just was
Speaker 1: like thearre laying there. But then he said I never
Speaker 1: went fishing again, So I was like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Smell or just like that? Like I was like, what,
Speaker 1: wait are we because okay, that's yeah boring. What's the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing thing that's happened to sexually.
Speaker 3: Embarrassing?
Speaker 1: I'm sure something has happened.
Speaker 2: I have bus too early, okay, and try to play
Speaker 2: it off.
Speaker 1: How do you mean trying to play it off again?
Speaker 3: It was fun.
Speaker 1: So then she got pissed because she didn't think she didn't.
Speaker 2: Even I think she eventually like figured it out, but
Speaker 2: I just can't make it up ECUs excuses.
Speaker 1: I was young, ash though, Okay, the reverse of that question,
Speaker 1: have you ever fake came?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Why? I really did not know that men do this thing,
Speaker 1: and this.
Speaker 2: Is very It's a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: One Henny Dick, Okay, that's why constantly goes out.
Speaker 2: And sweating and ain't ship coming out, and that ship
Speaker 2: just gets it's just get boring after a while.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're just like, it ain't gonna work. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not okay too.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: He could be like you know, corny, and it's just.
Speaker 1: Like I'm over it, But why don't you just just
Speaker 1: stop and be like, it ain't gonna happen to my
Speaker 1: baby girl? Like you know, like where's the honesty? You
Speaker 1: put your dick inside of her, but you can't tell
Speaker 1: her she ain't gonna let it.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, every bitch ain't no Alexis Texas.
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody is. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: bit freakier than me niggas.
Speaker 2: Going went out Lexis Texas and she wound up not.
Speaker 3: Being that And it's like.
Speaker 1: I don't like but okay, and I understand that. But
Speaker 1: but the problem with this is what I have with
Speaker 1: and I have guilty at on some levels, not mainly
Speaker 1: more in my personal life. But it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the faking part. But as far
Speaker 1: as like, if we are adults and we are consenting
Speaker 1: sexually and doing it an act, why is it batter
Speaker 1: You're gonna hurt my feelings if you're fake gonna do
Speaker 1: something or something you don't like, or like even the
Speaker 1: dead fish situation be like I'm like, I mean at
Speaker 1: that point i'd like to spit on it, like are
Speaker 1: you okay? Like what that's the aggressive But but as
Speaker 1: far as that, it's like why I think that it's
Speaker 1: because like we're more quick because we don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt their feelings because if you don't come, or in general,
Speaker 1: men too, Like I've had guys that are horrible in
Speaker 1: bed that I'm like, oh yeah, it's so great. It
Speaker 1: was fucking horrible. I never went back. But at the time, well,
Speaker 1: you're I'm too to the girl because you're fake coming.
Speaker 1: So that's a lie you didn't finish. It's the whole
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't want you to have my fucking come.
Speaker 1: Why then tell the bitch that? That's my point is
Speaker 1: the communicator. No, you just said you faked it. That's
Speaker 1: not telling. You're deceiving. So that's why I'm saying sexually.
Speaker 1: We're already naked as vulnerable as we can be. We're
Speaker 1: penetrating people. But we can't say you're just not doing
Speaker 1: it for me, because then she thinks what she's doing
Speaker 1: is good, and vice versa to the male as well,
Speaker 1: guilty of it at certain things because it's like, how
Speaker 1: do you really address that? I just think it it
Speaker 1: comes with communication.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's about the moment, the moment, but.
Speaker 1: If that woman's trash, then you're gonna be You're not
Speaker 1: gonna go.
Speaker 3: Maybe the moment ain't right, you know, we need to
Speaker 3: love this.
Speaker 1: Up or maybe not like it just be No, it's
Speaker 1: just you just be like it ain't happening tonight. Why
Speaker 1: is that? I would respect the honesty? I would be
Speaker 1: my ego would be her a little bit.
Speaker 3: Women wanted to talk it out.
Speaker 1: And no one's talking.
Speaker 2: Why are talking?
Speaker 3: It's more like I.
Speaker 1: Just know, but you said that you fake came, so
Speaker 1: there had to be there had to be a gesture,
Speaker 1: a noise. I don't know how you come, sir. So
Speaker 1: so everyone's different. So it's like different. Someone's like something
Speaker 1: like ah, somes like don't say nothing in a moment.
Speaker 3: Too much?
Speaker 1: What do you say, is there emotion? Is there?
Speaker 3: Obviously emotions is coming out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like what is their words coming out of
Speaker 1: your mouth?
Speaker 2: Maybe a some ship your moaning, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe so you moaned extra good to the fake it
Speaker 1: because if you have to put a press and I thought,
Speaker 1: that means you've done it too many times. That means I.
Speaker 2: Think how it is where like sometimes you saved your
Speaker 2: energy but not you just want to feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, but at the end of a session, something.
Speaker 2: Should come out.
Speaker 1: So say, if like me, I could come five to
Speaker 1: six times, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: Sometimes a nigga could smash and then Shorty your bus
Speaker 2: and then she's satisfied and you don't need the bus.
Speaker 1: I am great with all of that. Just don't lie
Speaker 1: about the fake coming. That's the issue. So next time
Speaker 1: when you're fake coming, you're gonna think about me and
Speaker 1: you're be like, damn it, I just have to.
Speaker 2: I feel like, all right, I'm gonna tap off first,
Speaker 2: especially if it's on some honey ship.
Speaker 1: Okay see, and I can respect that.
Speaker 3: Like already.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's.
Speaker 1: Just bored for everybody, like.
Speaker 2: And Shorty not feeling it great.
Speaker 1: Hurry It's like she said, a hurry up, that just
Speaker 1: gotta go.
Speaker 2: I mean I can. It's like fucking sweating and it's
Speaker 2: like I'm over it.
Speaker 1: That just sounds like a porno session to me. But
Speaker 1: definitely you definitely watch it on my films before I
Speaker 1: got I'll be sweating a lot. I mean it should
Speaker 1: be happening.
Speaker 2: I've never been on like a porn set, but I
Speaker 2: have just know that you'll pros, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like to say we're sexual athletes, like because some
Speaker 1: women listen.
Speaker 2: Some women they be fronting like they pros and then
Speaker 2: they ain't pros. They amateurs. Not saying that every dude
Speaker 2: is as a pro, but they like see women and
Speaker 2: it's like, damn, I want you know, I wish that
Speaker 2: she could perform like a Lexus Texas. That's just advertising,
Speaker 2: like it, I'm trying to see she might not be
Speaker 2: Alexis Texas, but I'm gonna try to fuck her like
Speaker 2: she's a Lexus Texas.
Speaker 3: And if she don't, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Corny is kind of like, yeah, I get that narrative
Speaker 1: to a point. It's just the communication part. For me,
Speaker 1: I just think it's back to like, if we don't
Speaker 1: like something, then why shouldn't we equally, say.
Speaker 3: A woman for a long time too.
Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, I was married once
Speaker 1: upon a timeship.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, when I was in a relationship.
Speaker 2: You can't do that in a relationship.
Speaker 1: What you can't fake come, Yeah, that'd be weird. That's
Speaker 1: like something you're single, like you're doing whatever. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: like if I'm in a relationship full, I mean, are
Speaker 1: we really identifying fake coming situations? I like the sudden
Speaker 1: we're talking.
Speaker 2: If you took it that deep less okay.
Speaker 1: I love the spiritual intellectual conversations because I feel like,
Speaker 1: again it's more about like who says it's bad? Like again,
Speaker 1: it's the context. It's not what you say, it's how
Speaker 1: you say it. Now, if you're like, bitch, just get
Speaker 1: off me, I'm gonna be a little upset. But if
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, i've been drinking, it's not gonna happening.
Speaker 2: One nice thing because you know, those type of things happen.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Flings happen whatever.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: I in a relationship, the rules and regulations that boundaries
Speaker 2: that come over a relationship that's a whole different time.
Speaker 2: A woman would I would expect her to ask questions.
Speaker 1: Was she the one who were you fell asleep on
Speaker 1: her titty?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I've been single a couple of times, but I've been
Speaker 2: in long relationships, so it's like I'm like, you know.
Speaker 1: I get it all right, super like that.
Speaker 3: But I understand.
Speaker 1: Next card, that was only the first one.
Speaker 2: Look, oh this is a this is a good one
Speaker 2: as spades.
Speaker 1: Oh that's our favorite here at private talk. It is diamond,
Speaker 1: I mean not diamond, it is naughty. Questions. Handcuffs are blindfolds?
Speaker 2: Right? The blind folk? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay. Where's the craziest place you've had sex.
Speaker 3: Playing?
Speaker 2: Mmm?
Speaker 1: Mile High Club? Nice job, me too? Do you like
Speaker 1: dirty talk?
Speaker 3: Yes? Hell yeah?
Speaker 1: Lube or spit spit sex tape? Have you ever made one?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Have you ever paid for sex?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Have you ever had sex at work? Is that hard?
Speaker 1: Have you have sex on a skateboard?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see. Biggest turn off Biggs, is there's something
Speaker 1: that a girl can just do that's absolutely or just
Speaker 1: not okay with? Like maybe it's I don't know other
Speaker 1: than the dead fish.
Speaker 4: You know, loud being loud, loud and wrong, loud and
Speaker 4: what wrong?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Wrong?
Speaker 3: Is that that is.
Speaker 1: Like you fella arguing and she's wrong about it. Didn't
Speaker 1: like that? Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Just like l like loud and wrong, like you just
Speaker 2: the loudest one in your room and everything he's saying
Speaker 2: is like wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you like? I do?
Speaker 3: I know? You know people like that.
Speaker 1: I do. That's why I think I'm thinking about a
Speaker 1: particular friend of mine. That's like, that's so I get it.
Speaker 2: Next step is like the bitch is a lush m
Speaker 2: So it's like you know what I mean, It's like sober,
Speaker 2: loud and wrong, bitch is dangerous.
Speaker 3: A lush is like I.
Speaker 1: Just stay drunk in the corner some things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but the sober, loud and wrong chick, that's
Speaker 2: just like that's just like super avoidable for.
Speaker 3: Me for sure.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious role playing. Do you like it? I've never
Speaker 1: done that, really, I've never done that.
Speaker 3: I've never had it done to me.
Speaker 1: So okay, given or received a golden shower never no
Speaker 1: no paing for you, piece.
Speaker 2: Of limits in the shower.
Speaker 1: Like a golden shower, So golden says, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying pink pete. Yeah, I've pet on a lot
Speaker 1: of people in the shower, so I'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: What kind of outfits turn you on? Are you into outfits?
Speaker 1: Do you like lingerie? Do you like just naked? Straight
Speaker 1: to the point?
Speaker 3: I like all of that, ship.
Speaker 1: All of it. Okay, So you like the visuals? Okay,
Speaker 1: you bought some lauingree before. Okay, okay, all right, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it all right. Next, but that's
Speaker 1: like the peeling off. You know, this is.
Speaker 3: Clubs.
Speaker 1: Ace of clubs is a kinky question. Let's see shower
Speaker 1: sex or car secks.
Speaker 2: Damn shower sex.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard though. I feel like head is
Speaker 1: a really like Okay, it's easy to do, but sex
Speaker 1: is a whole on thing, like when I was in
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck it, get out the car and on the car.
Speaker 1: That's different. It doesn't have to be dark, I mean unless.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a real wild boy, so broad daylight,
Speaker 1: you're just busting you said sunset. I said dark, But okay,
Speaker 1: I guess middle of the happy medium. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been in an orgy?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Any fetishes.
Speaker 3: Fetish?
Speaker 1: You have a foot fetish? Okay, okay, all right. What's
Speaker 1: the most number of times you've had sex in a day?
Speaker 1: Are you reminiscing you're trying to think about answer that question?
Speaker 2: I just I can't that question.
Speaker 1: Why can't you answer the question because someone's gonna know
Speaker 1: how many people?
Speaker 3: I just don't I want to get into that.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair ever had let's see. Oh no, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite time of day to have sex? Is its unset nighttime? Morning?
Speaker 3: I'll wait back to the last question.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many sounds like I have sex
Speaker 2: in the day? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, maybe you like ten?
Speaker 1: I respected your boundaries. You went there.
Speaker 3: I heard the question wrong.
Speaker 1: What did you think? I said? Okay, you don't want
Speaker 1: to answer, got it all right? Last question is what
Speaker 1: she said? Okay, that's why I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's bad, but I will go of hearts is
Speaker 1: a romantic question. Would you consider yourself a romantic?
Speaker 3: Hopeless woman?
Speaker 1: Hopeless romantic? So what's the most romantic thing you've done
Speaker 1: for a partner? You said you've been in some long
Speaker 1: term relationships, if you did, what kind of romance?
Speaker 2: Really saying I'm the world man, tight.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've did some cool.
Speaker 3: Things I don't know. I mean, I don't know, helicopter
Speaker 3: rides and shit like that. Nice helicopter ride to a
Speaker 3: spa all day.
Speaker 1: Spa, helicopter back, nice like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that's considered super romantic, but.
Speaker 1: Like I mean it is to some people. Everybody has
Speaker 1: their own, That's what I'm saying. It's like it's everybody's
Speaker 1: romantics level is whatever, you know.
Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, like for me, I guess it's like
Speaker 2: how do I be romantic?
Speaker 1: And like it just has to be real, Yeah, for sure, authentic.
Speaker 2: Authentic, Like I wanna really do this for you, not
Speaker 2: like obligated because you're like it's.
Speaker 1: Like a Valentine's that's a holiday and we're supposed to
Speaker 1: do things. Yeah, I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: This with you because like I think this shit is
Speaker 2: dope and it's fly and like I want to experience
Speaker 2: this with your type shit nice. I like the.
Speaker 1: Four player sucks. If you had to pick one, you
Speaker 1: can only have one. It's four play like had like
Speaker 1: all the like everything butt secks pretty much okay, hmm.
Speaker 1: Last question, don't dun't dunt dunn. Let's see describe your
Speaker 1: sex life with the song title.
Speaker 2: Ship mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It could be your in your past wild days. You
Speaker 1: can any any time in your life, you know, is
Speaker 1: there a song that you maybe like? Is there a
Speaker 1: song you know when you're gonna when you're playing it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be having sex. Do you have like do
Speaker 1: you play music when you're having sex? We'll go there.
Speaker 1: Not all the time.
Speaker 3: I like to. I like to hear her like mom.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're like you like to be present a screamer.
Speaker 1: You want her to talk. You don't want her to
Speaker 1: be streaming noises.
Speaker 3: I want her to be her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't really direct on who she need to be.
Speaker 1: You just watch the porn direct.
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna like fuck with you, I just think
Speaker 2: that I'll fuck with you because I really like you
Speaker 2: and this thing is about you that I like that,
Speaker 2: and I might want to look at you, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? I think girls women are beautiful for sure.
Speaker 2: Do like especially like when you see the right woman
Speaker 2: that you're attracted to and then she's actually attracted to
Speaker 2: you too, that's pretty intimacy.
Speaker 3: That's what it is intimacy.
Speaker 2: Intimacy That's why I think four play is really really dope. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because sex could be whack, but at least, like you know,
Speaker 2: I like shorty.
Speaker 1: For you need like the beginning, middle, and end speak.
Speaker 1: You can't just like go to the right all the time.
Speaker 2: But if you really like somebody and you want to
Speaker 2: enjoy them, right because because you desire.
Speaker 1: Them, I guess yeah, then.
Speaker 3: Why not to enjoy that shit?
Speaker 2: That's all I look at you feel me if she
Speaker 2: looks beautiful and she has a dope body and her
Speaker 2: moone is crazy, like I'm fucking that up like you feel.
Speaker 1: Cleaning it up alive.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, But but.
Speaker 1: It's because it's also an intimate situations, you know, So
Speaker 1: it's like something you can't also recreate. So it's like
Speaker 1: you like, but if that.
Speaker 3: Whole wifey you recreating all types of shit and then.
Speaker 1: She feelings, I mean as far as the bond and
Speaker 1: the energy like exchange, as far as like, So that's
Speaker 1: what turns people on in those intimate moments of like,
Speaker 1: it's because you're really like it's not like a one
Speaker 1: night stand. It's not like it's someone you actually care,
Speaker 1: you have desire, you have the want, you can.
Speaker 2: Have that feeling in a one night stand.
Speaker 3: You think, So.
Speaker 1: I think anything is possible. I mean people get married
Speaker 1: in one day that they've met each other, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it depends in the circumstance. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I think that if people are truly get out of
Speaker 1: their way, authentically themselves and really go on instincts and
Speaker 1: like into it, that people would get a lot further
Speaker 1: and like feel. Like for me, obviously it did sex
Speaker 1: and was in the adult entertainment business, so I identify
Speaker 1: sex differently, but I also it was different stages. I
Speaker 1: started when I was twenty one. I'm thirty seven now,
Speaker 1: so how I view sex and even you know, I
Speaker 1: don't perform anymore. I haven't performed like six years, but
Speaker 1: at the time, like it's just different levels of sex.
Speaker 1: So it's like certain things I craved in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I don't crave as much now because I crave more intimacy,
Speaker 1: intimacy then more. That's why for me, I say I'm demisexual.
Speaker 1: I like, it's like where I have to be my
Speaker 1: Like I'm stimulated by someone's mind first and then I
Speaker 1: want to Like it's like the sexual thing, Like it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily like like before people were like exterior your
Speaker 1: looks or whatever, like the connection, which is good, but
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's about like I need to have substance.
Speaker 1: I can't just have a Hey, what's your name? What's
Speaker 1: favorite call? You know what I mean? Like there's more
Speaker 1: of like an in depthness then for me to get
Speaker 1: even on the level that I'm going to fuck anybody
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 2: We both had though, too, because I mean I definitely
Speaker 2: have some wild times.
Speaker 1: In my life, for sure, but as we all should now.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to enjoy like what I can get
Speaker 2: and fuck with it like like how I how I
Speaker 2: need it and not saying that people are disposable or
Speaker 2: women are disposable, but.
Speaker 3: Like fuck it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you can find somebody beautiful, why
Speaker 2: not enjoy that? Shit?
Speaker 1: You should? You only live once. You gotta do it right. Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank you so much. That is the
Speaker 1: rest of the end of truth with Texas. I hope
Speaker 1: you had fun and I hope it wasn't too invasive.
Speaker 1: I hope we got to know you a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you like to ask miss Texas Man,
Speaker 1: like I just put you on the spot an autograph.
Speaker 1: I can get you an autograph, for sure. I can
Speaker 1: definitely make that happen.
Speaker 2: But Noah, I watch your videos though, I mean, do you.
Speaker 1: Have a favorite. I mean you have to have an
Speaker 1: archive because it's been like since two thousand. I don't
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: He did a scene with my homie Spencer.
Speaker 1: I did, Yes, Damon Dice, Yes, I think I did
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes with him, I believe. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he had put me onto you though.
Speaker 2: He put me onto a lot of.
Speaker 1: That was my before, like my.
Speaker 3: Born know no names.
Speaker 2: I would just be like, oh that's her, Oh that's her.
Speaker 1: That's that girl with that big old body.
Speaker 3: And then like I met him mm hmm, and then.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's Alexis Texas. He like humanized them for you.
Speaker 3: He's a great facility. That's my dog.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Spinning because he's a great human being
Speaker 2: and he is everybody, don't see your soul.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, for sure, I think people connect for different reasons,
Speaker 1: and I think that he definitely has a good neutral
Speaker 1: connection and a neutral connection. But he connects easily with
Speaker 1: a lot of people because he's very open