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Speaker 1: All Right, everybody, welcome to the Shirley You Can't Be

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Serious Podcast. We are here today to discuss two great

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albums from the nineties. These are former seventies rock stars

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who are regaining their crown as being the godfathers of

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hard rock. But before we do, do you have got

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a question for you?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What does Garth Brooks, ace Ventura, Wayne and Garth and

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Batgirl have in common?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get in it today when we talk about

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Aerosmith get a Grip album.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I'm ready to see you tie all of

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those crazy random things together.

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Speaker 1: Hang with me on this because it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 3: This episode, these two episodes that we've got are going

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to be fantastic because, as you mentioned, these two groups

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guys were icons in the seventies drugs and life events,

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and they fell apart in the eighties and then they

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revvd back up and here we are talking about the

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albums of the nineteen nineties that blew our doors off.

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Speaker 1: Drugs and bats and spilled milk. The stories are going

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to be amazing with these guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's jump into it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So we begin in New York in nineteen

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forty eight, where a young Stephen Victor Tallarico was born.

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Speaker 3: So he started life living under piano. His dad was

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a classical, classically trained musician, played with big bands, just

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like the Van Halen brothers. Dad John played with big bands.

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So he grew up his first years of life being

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surrounded by the sounds of the piano. And as he

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grew up, as you can imagine from the way he looks,

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he got made fun of a lot when he was

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a kid.

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Speaker 1: Kind of skinny, big lips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so as a way to combat that, he

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decided to start playing the drums. And he realized, hey,

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when I get on the stage in the cafeteria, the

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girls that were running away from me are now walking

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my way. But yes, thank you, thank you very much.

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I'll be here all night. Tip your waitress. So he

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gets this band together, and the band's name is Chain Reaction,

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Chain Reaction, and Chain Reaction actually does pretty well. They

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record some albums. They've got some songs on the jukebox, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, like legitimate records on the jukebox.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And a couple of guys that are interested in

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this band are Anthony Joseph Peare I don't know how

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to pronounce that last name. I'm glad he went with Perry. Yes,

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and Tom Hamilton Yeah, when they became interested. They were

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at that point too young to get in the clubs

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that Steven was playing in. So Joe and Tom decide, Hey,

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we're gonna put our own band together. They call their

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band the jam Band.

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Speaker 1: The jam band.

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Speaker 3: Because they're not the creative members of this quintet.

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Speaker 1: That is as boring as Joe Perry is.

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Speaker 3: Uh Joe Perry. Now, Joe Perry strikes me as the

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guy that when you're like, hey, how's it going, that

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he's like yeah, and he starts to tell you how

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it's actually going, and it's not interesting, and you're like,

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I was really just making small talk. I don't really

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care about your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a very serious looking guy. He does look

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like a rockstar though, I mean he's oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's got the abs. I mean he's a

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mad Yes. Yes, Jed Adams at forty eight. In nineteen

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sixty nine, Steven's band had broken up and he was

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back at home mowing his grass. Joe Perry is the

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guy who pulls up in the MG and says, hey,

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how you doing. Steven says, I haven't seen you in

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a while. Joe says, hey me, some of the boys

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are play at the barn tonight. What are you doing.

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Steven says nothing, Maybe I'll come see you, And as

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Joe is about to drive off, Stephen says, hey, maybe

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we'll play together sometime.

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Speaker 1: Pretty important sentence in the history of rock and roll

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right there, right.

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Speaker 3: So he goes to the show that night and he

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listens to them play and he thinks they're awful, and

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so he is about to get up and leave, and

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then they start playing a song that starts out well.

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Speaker 2: If you want to rock, and it's slow and it's sexy,

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and Stephen is transfix He is amazed at the dynamics

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of this song.

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Speaker 3: He's thinking to himself, Oh my gosh, the classical music

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of my dad and my lyrics and this type of

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sexy song. We could actually make something out of this. Yeah, yeah,

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you know a song as they were playing, what is it? Okay?

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So it's a song that we talked about in the

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skid Row episode, kind of song that we talked about

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in the Motley Crue episode. Because they both have songs

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on their albums that have the same name, but it's

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not a Motley Crue song, and it's not a skid

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Row song. It's a Fleetwood Max song. You call it

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Rattlesnake Shake nice.

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Speaker 1: I did not know.

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Speaker 3: That's why I am here, man. I am here to

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give you information that will blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: You're blowing my mind.

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Speaker 3: Steve and Joe and Tom move out to Boston in

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nineteen seventy just to try to put something together. They

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come across this drummer named Joey Kramer, and they think, man,

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if we could get this guy, we're gonna be set.

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They come across another guy who's a really good guitarist

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named Brad Whitford.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brad is one of those guys. I mean, he

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looks like Santa Claus right right, He's like a long

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white beard, and he looks so disinterested in all those videos.

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Speaker 3: I don't you look at that group and you're like,

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how did this guy sneak into the band? It's like,

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did they get is one of the guys sick?

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Speaker 1: Did they get a lady?

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Speaker 3: Did they get a roadie to come in here and

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play guitar?

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Speaker 1: We bring in more hot girls. Brad's not smiling yet.

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Speaker 3: He's got dry, krusty, banged hair. But he's a good guitarist.

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He's a great guitarist and one of the members of

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the greatest rock and roll band of all time.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So Joey Kramer came up with the name of the band. Hey,

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what do you think about Aerosmith. Yeah, So they start playing.

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They start rocking out Boston so hard that some music

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managers named Steven Lever and David Krebs notice them and

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they're like, we got to put on a show for

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these guys. So they do this showcase show for them

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in October of nineteen seventy one. If you're paying attention,

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that's fifty years ago. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Incredible.

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Speaker 3: Wow. They bring in the president of Columbia Records, mister

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Clive Davis, who instantly fell in love. As a matter

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of fact, he came down and said, I'm gonna make

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you a star that every rock's.

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Speaker 1: Singer wants to hear in the star.

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Speaker 3: Could you bring out the standard rich and famous contract?

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do them movie?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we need to Okay. So the first

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success that they have is a song off their debut album,

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also called Aerosmith. It came from a melody that Steven

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Tyler had written back when he was only seventeen years old,

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and the name of the song is dream On. Oh

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my gosh, when I went to the pizza inn as

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a young kid, and I mean the pizza parlor that

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had the video good the pizza parlor that had the

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little TVs, the little black and white TVs that you

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could put a quarter in and watch TV while you

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ate your pizza.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But on the jukebox, you were going to have another

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one Bites the Dust or We Will Rock You. You

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were going to have another Brick in the Wall or money,

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and you were going to have dream On.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most iconic rock songs of all

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time and probably the grandfather of every Power ballad that's ever.

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Speaker 3: Been made, arguably. And then I would get done with

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my one piece of pizza and say, can I go

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play Miss pac Man.

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Speaker 1: That's a good night right there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dream On and Miss pac Man Little Tabletop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to take just a brief moment and

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mention there is a version of dream On that is

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on the Last Action Hero soundtrack that came out in

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ninety three. It's a live version that's actually conducted by

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Michael Kahman, the same guy who did the music for

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Leith the Weapon and Die Harden, Highlander, Highlander, countless movies.

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And it is an amazing version of dream.

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Speaker 3: On, one of their most iconic songs. However, it's not

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a big success.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: The album barely sold over one hundred thousand. How does

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that happen? I don't know, but with a showing that poor,

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the record label said, your next album better be a

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major success or you're going to be done. And so

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they went back in the recording studio with producer Jack

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Douglas and a copious amount of cocaine, and they produced

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their second album called Get Your Wings Nice nineteen seventy four.

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Get Your Wings went gold. But at this point the

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animosity starts to begin and build between the key members

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of the band, the Toxic Twins Joe and Steve Yes.

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Because of his intrusive and strong willed girlfriend and ultimately wife,

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Joe Perry started spending less and less time with the

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band and more and more time with Alyssa. Stephn Tyler

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said he didn't really down to write a song about her,

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but you're going to recognize a lyric that he said

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is unquestionably referring to her.

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Speaker 1: Talking about things that nobody cares.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that lyric was inspired by Alyssa Perry. The

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next album that they recorded was Toys in the Attic.

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It's the same story that we've told multiple times. Now

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we're almost done with the album.

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Speaker 1: It's the same old song and dance.

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Speaker 3: Way to go. They're almost done. They don't quite have

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a hit song on the album yet. Joe Perry is

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fiddling around on the guitar and comes up with this

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little thing that goes and then Steven Tyler drummer, yes,

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sits down and it's like and suddenly they can tell

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this song is a hit. All they need are lyrics.

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Where are the lyrics? We can't think of the lay're

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pulling their hair out.

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Speaker 1: Come on words, words, words, words.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, they weren't coming right. And so after several hours

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of I'm about ready to tear my hair out, can

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we do some more cocaine, Jack Douglas is like, guys,

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just take a break, you know, walk across the street,

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watch a movie. It'll be fine. Well, the movie that

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happened to be playing across the street, this movie.

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Speaker 1: Called Young Frankenstein.

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Speaker 3: And so they go in and they laugh their butts off,

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specifically at one line by Marty Feldman, this no this way.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this song was almost called abby Normal.

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Speaker 3: This song was almost called what Knockers? Oh my gosh. Yes,

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So the song walk the Way was born at a

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magical moment from the movie Young.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, that's really cool. What a great story.

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Speaker 3: So another cool story around this time, the band was

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driving to one of their gigs together and they get

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pulled over by a police car and the officer finds

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one seed as seed, not even multiple seeds, but as

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seed of marijuana, and handcuffs everybody and takes them all

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down to the station. And so they're sitting there and

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you're thinking, well, what story about there's a seed? I mean,

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what are you gonna do with a seed? Right? Well,

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the problem is is that Brad Whitford had two bags

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of marijuana inside his pants. What if your drugs were

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on fire?

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Speaker 1: Impossible, sir. They're in Whitford's underwear.

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Speaker 3: So they're sitting there waiting, knowing that the bags of

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marijuana are just in his pants, and Stephen Tyler looks

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and sees that the door next to them is open,

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so he grabs the marijuana bags, throws them into this

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doesn't know what's happened, and they have managed to make

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it to the show in time.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So Walk this Way finds its way into the top ten.

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we just put it out there and we said, what's

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your favorite Aerosmith album of all time? Toys in the

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Attic really was the overwhelming favorite by most people, but

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Rocks kind of finished second.

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music by Nicky six, Slash, James Hetfield, Kurt Cobain, and

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according to one story Eddie Van Halen's that they got

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their big break by touring the LA clubs playing Arismith songs. Now,

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of course that story came from Joe Perry, so you

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don't know how good that story is. But anyway, yes,

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So at this point they're headlining tours and they are

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filling up stadiums now. Also during this time, Stephen Tyler

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starts dating a playboy model named Bebby Buell, and he

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takes her to Germany with them on tour and they

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have a nice little romance for about two and a

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half weeks, and then they're done and she goes back home.

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that she's pregnant and he's not sure if the baby

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is his or not. And she's rekindled her relationship with

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another rock musician named Todd Rundgren, and she doesn't want

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the baby to be Stephen Tyler's, so she and Todd

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raise Live as their own Ye Live, And not surprisingly,

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Steven Tyler doesn't just go try to find his hardest.

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He's not in the best spot in his life to

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go be a dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, cocaine is more of his thing at that moment.

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the first you know, half of her life. Yeah. Is

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not only a musician, he was producer as well. He

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produced Straight Up by Bad Finger, He produced We're an

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American Band by Grand Funk Railroad. He produced New York Dolls,

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by New York Dolls, Bat Out of Hell by Meat Loaf,

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and this Are you ready? Yes, all right? In nineteen

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eighty one, he created the first color graphic tablet software

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for personal computers that was licensed to Apple, called the

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Utopia Graphic Tablet System. So, just to be clear here,

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Todd Runner Live Tyler's step dad, was the guy who

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created what would ultimately become the iPhone and the iPad.

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Speaker 1: That's freaking amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You're blowing my mind.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're blowing my mind. Also, around this time,

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March of nineteen seventy seven, they start recording Draw the Line.

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At this point, their drug use and psychotic behavior had

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become so far gone that they were no longer musicians

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who did drugs. They were drug addicts who occasionally played music.

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to suffer. And it wasn't because they were drugged out

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that the performances were bad. It was when they weren't

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drugged out. They had become such addicts that when they

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weren't on drugs, they dope sick. Yeah, they were dope sick,

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and they couldn't they couldn't put on a good stage show,

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and the animosity between Joe and Stephen like climax at

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this point, and it was largely over drugs, Like Stephen

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would have drug and Joe would be like, can I

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have some drugs? And Steve would be like, no, they're

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my drugs. Right, So that's that's the way you get

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How can you be such a hateful friend not to

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give me some of your death drugs? Okay? So then,

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as bad as it was, things got worse when Steven

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started dating a friend of Alyssa Perry, Joe's wife named

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Sirrenda Fox, right, not Samantha Fox, not Samantha Fox, but

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both Foxes. Yes, And he did start dating her despite

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the fact that she was married at the time to

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another musicians. Okay, she had set her sights on him,

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and I guess forgotten that she had, you know, sworn

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an oath to stay true to somebody else. And she

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started to get more and more attention. And because of

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the attention that she was getting, Alissa was no longer

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her friend. She was her friend of me. Yep, she

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was just her enemy. Actually, they just she started to

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hate her. And this this angry Alyssa made Steven Tyler

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so happy that he married, Sir.

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Speaker 1: I know what, I'll really drive it crazy.

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Speaker 3: We'll get married. Yeah. So at this point, all of

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the wives would sit backstage and just despise each other,

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and at some point, a glass of milk is thrown.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Alyssa Perry throws a glass of milk at Brad

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Whitford's wife, and that's when it. The whole thing blows

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up and literally Aerosmith breaks up over a glass of

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spilled milk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Alyssa was the one who threw the glass

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of milk. But Joe is the one who comes to

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the band and says, I've had enough, maybe I should

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just split. Their only response is to nod in agreement. Yeah.

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So Joe went out on his own and did the

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Joe Perry Project, you know, the big famous Joe Perry Project.

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Yeah no, no, I'm not really no, right, So Aerosmith

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replaced him as a guitarist. But Magic's Gone. The album

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that came out after that was Rocking a hard place.

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It took them over two years to put that album together,

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and at that point Brad Whitford had decided I'm tired

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of waiting for it, and he quit the band, and

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he put together his own band, which of course is

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big and famous.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no one.

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Speaker 3: Either, all right, So they replaced him with Rick de Fay,

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and the band that was once filling stadiums could now

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no longer fill like a thousand seat clubs.

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Speaker 1: While they were playing, you could hear people yelling where's Joe.

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I saw another deal where Steven Tyler was dopsic on

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stage and he goes to lean on I think Tom Hamilton,

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Oh yeah, and Tom Hamilton's like, dude, get off me,

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and it gives him kind of a little shove and

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Steven Tyler goes down and can't get up. Literally, he's

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fallen and can't get up. That's just disastrous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And so it's at this point that Rick Defey,

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the replacement guitarist that they had brought on, says the

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obvious thing, you guys need to get Joe back in

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the band, right. Not surprisingly, Joe's band was not doing

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so great at this time either. He needed money to

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despite the fact that he was a world famous musician.

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Since his management took half of the money that the

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band made, he had no more money left, and so

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he sold his nineteen fifty nine Les Paul. That's the

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guitar that had the Dennetteananena riff coming off of it.

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He's like, so done with that band, I don't care.

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I wonder if I can find that guitar. And at

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this point he's got people and so it puts, you know,

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puts the feelers out, and somebody gives him a call

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and says, hey, check out the latest spread and Guitar World.

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He opens it up and it is a guitar collection

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that has his nineteen fifty nine Les Paul right in

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the middle of it. And whose guitar collection is it?

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Speaker 1: Slash of Guns N' Roses.

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Speaker 3: And so he gives Slash a call and he's like

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hey man, and he's like, oh, hey Joe. He's excited.

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I mean, we know, like Joe's the inspiration for him

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getting into music right right, and so he's like, so

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you've got my guitar and Slash is like, oh my gosh,

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please don't ask me what you're going to ask. Please

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do not say what you're going to say. And he's like, man,

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I'd really love to have that. He's like dogs He's like, man,

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I can't. I can't part with this. This is like

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the jewel of my collection. And Joe's like, okay, man,

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just think about it and keeps calling him every once

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in a while to kind of hit him up about it,

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and eventually Slash stops taking Joe Perry's phone.

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Speaker 1: Call your Heroes on the line again, tell him I'm

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not here.

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Speaker 3: So Joe realizes that he's been cut off, and so

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he gets he makes contact with him. He's like, man,

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I don't want to split up our friendship over this.

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I will never say another word to you about my guitar. Okay,

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my that I love my baby.

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Speaker 1: I will not bring up my baby anymore.

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Speaker 3: And so he lets it go. And then a couple

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years later, on his fiftieth birthday, he opens a present

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from Slash and it's his nineteen fifty nine lasts. Yes,

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that is awesome. So both Steven and Joe find new

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stable spouses at this point. Yeah, they both are good

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about helping them get their act back together, and ultimately,

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in March of nineteen eighty four, they get the band

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back together. Yeah, they change management, the change record labels.

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The next album that they had was called Done with mirrors.

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The drug use was still heavy, the inability to get

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things done was still there, and so they were still

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struggling for a couple of years. Yeah, until a moment

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of magic. In March of nineteen eighty six. They get

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a call from mister Rick. And if you don't know

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who Rick Rubin is, his album production is so voluminous

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that I couldn't even begin to scratch the surface. He

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is an icon and he says, I'd like to re

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record one of your biggest hits with a rap group

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called Run DMC.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge momentous event, not just in Aerosmith history,

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but in rock and roll and hip hop history.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. To say that the mashup of these two bands

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is revolutionary is an understatement. Doctor Dre described it as

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a breakthrough moment because it was the first time hip

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hop was getting played on MTV. It's really cool moment, right.

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It brought them back into my mind. I remember as

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a little kid here in dream On on the radio

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and some of those other songs, but they were absent

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from my developmental years for news. But then in eighty

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six when that video came out, I was like, Oh,

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I know these guys where do I know these guys

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from And that's kind of the way that everybody else reacted. Absolutely,

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So suddenly they have got an appeal for a whole

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brand new audience, and so they've got new management who says,

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this is our moment, this is our moment to grab.

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We can get a new audience from this MTV craze.

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We just have to fix the drug prop yep and

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so that's that's what they do. They force them into

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rehab and it takes five years a lot of hard work,

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but eventually all five members of the band are sobered together.

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And during that time, Steven Tyler finds out that he

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has a nine year old daughter named liv.

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Speaker 1: Imagine we're going to talk about her here in just

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a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good.

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Speaker 1: So Permanent Vacation comes out in eighty seven. Desmond Child

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is brought in as an outside rider to help them

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with some of these songs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Permanent Vacation was their first drug free album, and

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it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great one.

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Speaker 3: It was during that time that they mistook Vince Neil

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as a hot girl in a bar, and then not

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too long after that they their management convinced them to

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bring in a songwriting partner, Desmond Child, we talked about

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in our bon Jovi episode. Desmond Child is you know

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who's Desmond Child at this point, right? The guy just

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a guy. So you wrote a few bon Jovi songs.

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Good for you? Like literally, this is you all happening

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at the same time. And so he asserts himself quite nicely.

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He comes in. They're playing a song and they've got

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this lyric that they're working.

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Speaker 1: With CUsing for the ladies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they say what do you think and

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Desmond Child says, I think that sounds like and they're like, oh,

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thank you, okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, and so he's like, well,

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I got my work cut out for me, and they're like,

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a the who whah who flow. So let us tell

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you what the original lyric was. How about the line

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dude looks like a lady? And Desmond Child goes, now

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you've got.

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Speaker 1: To hit yeah, yeah, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he comes up with the first line.

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Speaker 1: Cruising two a bar on the shore.

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Speaker 3: And Steven Tyler follows it with the second line, her

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picture grates the grime on the door, and suddenly Stephen

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Tyler realized he did not have to do so much

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hard work writing songs.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a great song. Someday we need to do

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permanent vacation.

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Speaker 1: I would love to do permanent vacation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After the dude looks like a lady, they released a

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song called Angel Yes, which is a power ballad, Yeah,

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softer power ballad.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not dream On, it's a it's a much softer,

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slow dance kind of song.

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Speaker 1: It's on the Makeout List of nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: And Tom Hamilton's like, I don't like this. This is

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this is not us. This song is wimpy and mushy,

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and I don't like it. This is we're rockers. I

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don't know what this is happening. And then literally moments later,

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some dudes like in leather jackets with long beards and

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biker tattoos go, oh, man, Angel love the song. You

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guys could play that anytime, and he's like, well, I

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goes my argument. We'll keep writing those kind of songs,

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and that's kind of become their thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're lucky he lost that argument, or we

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would be without some major Arismith.

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Speaker 3: Songs after that, including their number one.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to miss a thing of Armageddon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So after that they released Pump and their videos

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go to next level to say, okay, let's say that

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the videos and the songs might be described as slightly sexual. Yeah.

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Loving an elevator based on a true story and experienced

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by mister Steven Tyler himself. Yes, I'm not shocked when

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I heard thy right, they didn't push the stop button though.

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At some point in the midst of it all the

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doors opened up and people, you know, some family on vacation.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the next week.

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Speaker 3: So then in nineteen ninety three, they released the album

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that we are here to talk about today, Get a Grip.

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Get a Grip, So join us for that. Not next week,

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but just in a couple of days. It will be amazing,

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it will be crazy. We're gonna be living on the edge.

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You'll be laughing, you'll be crying. D get a grip.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you guys in two days.