Speaker 1: You're List Saints KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles
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Speaker 2: It is the Bill Handles Show. He'll be back from
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Speaker 2: Elect Trump is asking the Supreme Court to block a
Speaker 2: law that would require TikTok to either sell itself or
Speaker 2: shut down. He wants as president when he becomes president
Speaker 2: on January twenty, he wants to negotiate a resolution to
Speaker 2: the TikTok problem that he can save TikTok while also
Speaker 2: addressing the national security concerns that we have about TikTok.
Speaker 2: So he's asking them to block the law and then
Speaker 2: he'll handle it and we'll see what they say about that.
Speaker 2: Lapt Lieutenant Mark Garza has filed a legal claim against
Speaker 2: the city. Now, the legal claim is the precursor to
Speaker 2: a lawsuit. That's typically what happens. You can't in most cases.
Speaker 3: Just sue.
Speaker 2: In most situations, first you file a claim, you say, hey,
Speaker 2: I think you did this wrong and I want whatever
Speaker 2: I want from you, and it gives an opportunity for
Speaker 2: the thing to be settled without involving the courts. But
Speaker 2: typically claims are denied in almost every avenue of life.
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing there will come a lawsuit after this.
Speaker 2: But here's what he's saying. So he was in charge
Speaker 2: of the Mission Division Gang Unit. He's in charge of
Speaker 2: that unit and the officers, some of them in that
Speaker 2: unit were under investigation last year because of allegations that
Speaker 2: they were illegally stopping people, illegally searching vehicles, and in
Speaker 2: some allegations, stealing.
Speaker 3: From the people that they pulled over.
Speaker 2: So Lieutenant Garza says in this claim that he went
Speaker 2: to the authorities back in June of last year and said,
Speaker 2: I think some of my guys are doing what they
Speaker 2: call ghost stops. That means you're pulling somebody over, you're
Speaker 2: not documenting it, you're not turning on your body camera
Speaker 2: or your dash camera, you're not telling dispatch where you
Speaker 2: were totally off the books with no record of it
Speaker 2: pulling people over. So you know, the LAPD has refined
Speaker 2: their body camera footage policies now. Back when this was
Speaker 2: going on, the requirement on Lieutenant Garza was to only
Speaker 2: look at body camera footage or sports footage if there
Speaker 2: was a complaint or there was a use of force
Speaker 2: or there was a pursuit, So if in fact officers
Speaker 2: are performing ghost stops, there's no way that anybody would
Speaker 2: ever see anything anyway. And he was saying, look, we
Speaker 2: can't just limit our review of this stuff, because then
Speaker 2: the way if people are misbehaving, it makes it easier
Speaker 2: for them to keep getting away with it. So he
Speaker 2: started to look into it, and that's when he says
Speaker 2: he learned that there were videos of officers breaking rules,
Speaker 2: but that they had been excluded from any audits of
Speaker 2: LAPD video footage. And what that would mean is every
Speaker 2: time there was an audit, they would get a perfect
Speaker 2: score because somewhere the auditors had been ordered to take
Speaker 2: out any incomplete body camera videos. If i'm gonna check
Speaker 2: on you, I'm only gonna check full encounters. If any
Speaker 2: part of that encounter is missing, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: look at it. So all an officer would have to
Speaker 2: do is to delay turning on their dash cam or
Speaker 2: their bodycam because they knew if they did that, it
Speaker 2: would be a partial video of the encounter and they
Speaker 2: wouldn't audit it. And also, the claim is that the
Speaker 2: people checking the videos for misconduct were told specifically if
Speaker 2: you see a gang officer doing something they're not supposed
Speaker 2: to do, just don't do it, don't say it, don't
Speaker 2: report it. So he went to the authorities and he said,
Speaker 2: I think some of these guys. This is in June
Speaker 2: of last of Yes, twenty twenty three int he had already,
Speaker 2: according to him, reported his suspicions. Now in August, two
Speaker 2: months later, it came out in an LA Times report
Speaker 2: that internal affairs at LAPD got a search warrant for
Speaker 2: the officers' lockers at the Mission Division station. That is,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's never happened before. That's
Speaker 2: very rare for an internal affairs investigation to result in
Speaker 2: a search warrant for everybody's lockers. So now you have
Speaker 2: these officers are under investigation. They're accused of breaking the law,
Speaker 2: they're accused of trying to cover it up. There's a
Speaker 2: search warrant being served. They take Garza off duty. He's
Speaker 2: facing discipline, he's got a Board of Rights hearing coming up.
Speaker 3: He could be fired.
Speaker 2: And his former boss, the captain at the time, James
Speaker 2: Townsend and Argent and several former officers from this gang.
Speaker 2: There's also one officer who's facing criminal charges already for
Speaker 2: allegedly stealing a knife and some brass knuckles from two
Speaker 2: different people that he had pulled over. And he's pled
Speaker 2: not guilty. He's got a preliminary hearing coming. So here's
Speaker 2: the thing. He thought maybe these officers were doing something wrong.
Speaker 2: It turns out maybe he was right. But he's being
Speaker 2: swept up in the whole thing. And I guess it's
Speaker 2: whether you think it's fair that somebody who tried to
Speaker 2: bring it to the attention of the department is going
Speaker 2: to be punished the same way that the officers who did.
Speaker 3: The bad things can be punished. All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think that people who love to read books
Speaker 2: could be every bit as hostile and annoying as sports fans.
Speaker 2: You would think of people who love to read books
Speaker 2: as being quiet, intelligent, wearing a cozy sweater, not making waves.
Speaker 2: But in fact, there is a battle royale going on
Speaker 2: between people who say listening to an audio book is
Speaker 2: the same as reading a book and other people who say,
Speaker 2: my name.
Speaker 3: Is Michelle Cube, and I will not stand for this.
Speaker 3: It is not the same. Not. May I interview you,
Speaker 3: yes about this issue? Yes? You may. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to ask you some questions because I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to elicit the origin of your anger
Speaker 2: about the idea that somebody would listen to an ebook
Speaker 2: and then say that they read the book or counted
Speaker 2: as having read a book. So my first question for
Speaker 2: you is, are you currently in any kind of book club?
Speaker 3: I am not in a book club? No, okay?
Speaker 2: Are you currently do you peruse or engage in good
Speaker 2: Reads the website good Reads? I do not?
Speaker 3: Okay, So hold on, just sit tight for me for
Speaker 3: a second. Okay, okay, because I'm going.
Speaker 2: To talk about why most of the people who are
Speaker 2: arguing about this are arguing about it. And then since
Speaker 2: this I don't think would apply, well, lo, let me
Speaker 2: one more question. Are you or have you ever been
Speaker 2: involved in any kind of reading challenge?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, there it is. Then it's just wasn't It was.
Speaker 2: Not a good Reads no reading challenge, but you have
Speaker 2: involved in a reading challenge. Okay, So here we go,
Speaker 2: so for you, see, ladies and gentlemen, For some people,
Speaker 2: the reading of books has become a competition sport, and
Speaker 2: good Reads allows users to issue reading challenges. But reading
Speaker 2: challenges can come from almost anywhere, and they are very
Speaker 2: often in the form of read this number of books
Speaker 2: in this amount of time. So this is where it
Speaker 2: becomes an issue. There are people who say you should
Speaker 2: not if you're in a reading challenge.
Speaker 3: This means you're in a competition.
Speaker 2: And you listen to a book on tape, you should
Speaker 2: not be allowed to count it towards the goal of
Speaker 2: the reading challenge.
Speaker 3: You have to actually look at it with your eyes.
Speaker 2: Words on a page or maybe a kindle is allowed,
Speaker 2: but not listening to it. Yes, and now the reading challenge,
Speaker 2: where are they coming from if they're not coming from
Speaker 2: good Reads and you're not in a book club.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is going to sound weird, but it's something
Speaker 4: I've done all my life. It's a challenge I do myself.
Speaker 4: And it started when I was in elementary school and
Speaker 4: during the summer, my mom sent me to the local library,
Speaker 4: you know, for like you go to library for a
Speaker 4: few hours and some peace and quiet probably, but they
Speaker 4: at the time gave us a challenge. You know, you
Speaker 4: had to read like ten books for the summer. And
Speaker 4: ever since that time, I do this every year where
Speaker 4: I challenge myself to read x amount of books every year.
Speaker 3: That's where it came from for me. All right.
Speaker 2: So you don't like the idea of people who have
Speaker 2: said I did the ten books and they were all ebooks.
Speaker 2: You hate that. You think that's cheating. This is the
Speaker 2: This is the equivalent of doping the kindle.
Speaker 4: The kindle is fine. I prefer actual books. Oh you whaw,
Speaker 4: but the kindle is fine. Like I'm okay with the kindle.
Speaker 4: I'm not okay with the audio books.
Speaker 2: Okay, not fair. Now let's talk about why. Maybe you
Speaker 2: have a point. The idea here is that if you
Speaker 2: are listening to a book, you can do other things
Speaker 2: at the same time. You can put on an ebook
Speaker 2: and you can listen to it while you're making dinner.
Speaker 2: You can listen to it while you're out on your walk,
Speaker 2: you can listen to it while you're pretending to pay
Speaker 2: attention to your kids when they think you're playing with them,
Speaker 2: or even when you're driving around and you can't really
Speaker 2: read a book while you're driving. You can't really read
Speaker 2: a book while you're working out. And so the idea
Speaker 2: is that it gives audiobook listeners an unfair advantage because
Speaker 2: they are multitasking and someone reading a paper book or
Speaker 2: a kindle book. Can't do that. That's the argument. That's
Speaker 2: the basis for the argument. So, first of all, it
Speaker 2: would be irrelevant except that y'all are making the reading
Speaker 2: of books now a competition. That's the first thing, And
Speaker 2: the second thing is depending on the person. How do
Speaker 2: you know if I'm making dinner and listening to an ebook,
Speaker 2: how do you know that it's not my comprehension of
Speaker 2: the book that's suffering from the multitasking rather than the cooking. Now,
Speaker 2: I suppose that the point here is, well, what you
Speaker 2: can do is you can just put on an ebook
Speaker 2: and not even pay attention to it, but just you
Speaker 2: hear it like you hear that it's on, and then
Speaker 2: you count it as having read a book, as opposed
Speaker 2: to putting it on and sitting intently listening to it
Speaker 2: and counting it as reading a book.
Speaker 3: But can't. Here's where you come in.
Speaker 2: I'm going to challenge you, can't the same thing really
Speaker 2: happen with reading a paper book where you can kind
Speaker 2: of just scan it and not really be.
Speaker 3: Engaged, I'm sure, and still say I read it.
Speaker 2: And then somebody goes, oh, well, what about this scene
Speaker 2: in this scene and you're like, I don't really want
Speaker 2: to remember all of that because I did read it.
Speaker 2: Technically my eyes scanned each line on each page, but
Speaker 2: my I didn't internalize any of it. If you do
Speaker 2: a book that way and you don't really remember that
Speaker 2: much about it, have you read it? No, So what's
Speaker 2: the point of this challenge? It's like, who can perfunctorily
Speaker 2: scan a book or have a book on in the background.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just listen.
Speaker 4: I just think if you're going to say you're reading
Speaker 4: a book and you're listening to it on tape, it's
Speaker 4: not the same. It's not the same thing. It's not
Speaker 4: the same experience. It's not the same because in a book,
Speaker 4: you're supposed to lose yourself in a book, you're supposed
Speaker 4: to take it to the beach and sit there and
Speaker 4: you know, read and just you know, have that imagination.
Speaker 4: If you're doing too many other things, you're not really
Speaker 4: enjoying story.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think people I think people have
Speaker 2: a good idea of where you're coming from, where I'm
Speaker 2: coming from, and I just do want to say this.
Speaker 2: I think that the that the good news here is
Speaker 2: that you that you have enough space that you're holding
Speaker 2: enough Did you hold space for wicket by the way,
Speaker 2: I did? Okay, so you had you had space for wicket.
Speaker 2: You have space for this ebook controversy thing, which means
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that means your life isn't as bad as.
Speaker 3: It could be. No, it's not as bad as it.
Speaker 2: So let's so we're gonna I'm gonna say, let's focus
Speaker 2: on the fact that our lives could be worse and
Speaker 2: we would literally not have one synaps available in our
Speaker 2: brain to even think about whether listening to an ebook
Speaker 2: should entitle you to market as having read a book
Speaker 2: for the purpose of a challenge.
Speaker 4: And that's good. It is good. And by the way,
Speaker 4: I'm reading the Wicked Book books again. There's four of them.
Speaker 3: Oh dear lord, you people, then you know what I thought.
Speaker 3: The first one was great and the other ones get
Speaker 3: a little wonky, Yes they do.
Speaker 4: But I'm enjoying, you know, reading them again just for
Speaker 4: the fun of it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's probably good for Hollywood that everybody is so
Speaker 2: obsessed with all things Wicked, because otherwise, uh, Hollywood is
Speaker 2: struggling somewhat.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When there is a strike at some point there's always
Speaker 2: a settlement, and those settlements almost always, I think, always
Speaker 2: make production more expensive. So when there's a strike and
Speaker 2: work stops, studio executives take a look at, Hey, how
Speaker 2: much does it cost us to make a movie anyway?
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't need to make make it here. We
Speaker 2: can't save money by stiffing the writers anymore or the
Speaker 2: actors anymore, because you know, they went on strike and
Speaker 2: we had to settle and we had to give them
Speaker 2: something meaningful, So we can't really find cost savings there.
Speaker 2: How could we find cost savings?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: Oh, let's make our movies and TV shows in other
Speaker 2: parts of the country where the other costs that we
Speaker 2: can kind of control can be controlled. We can move
Speaker 2: to cheaper places. And that is why you know, there's
Speaker 2: so much filming that goes on in Georgia now, and
Speaker 2: New Mexico is coming in hot as possibly the number
Speaker 2: two out of la place for film and TV production
Speaker 2: because Georgia has put a lot into attracting production for years.
Speaker 2: They have a no capax incentive program.
Speaker 3: Billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Have been given in tax incentives to Hollywood studios.
Speaker 3: With no there's no limit.
Speaker 2: Bring all the production that you possibly can, and you'll
Speaker 2: get tax incentives for all of it. Now, New Mexico
Speaker 2: is coming up because they also have tax incentives. They
Speaker 2: also are closer to California than Georgia, and they are
Speaker 2: allowing massive buildout of production facilities. Netflix since twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: has invested over half a billion with a B dollars
Speaker 2: in productions in New Mexico and they are going to
Speaker 2: build a massive expansion. They have studios in Albuquerque and
Speaker 2: they are massively expanding them. Four new sound stages at least,
Speaker 2: and Georgia and New Mexico are not alone. California now
Speaker 2: and LA in particular are competing with at least thirty
Speaker 2: eight states that have some kind of tax incentive to
Speaker 2: attract film and television production. So yes, there's a ripple effect,
Speaker 2: because it's not just direct film jobs that suffer when
Speaker 2: productions go out of state. Productions typically don't. It's not
Speaker 2: that I have a bunch of experience with making films
Speaker 2: or television or any but if you're going to make
Speaker 2: a big movie, you're not going to necessarily bring every
Speaker 2: single person who's working on a movie from LA. Make
Speaker 2: up people here, people, costume people, production assistants are likely
Speaker 2: to be hired locally, where perhaps you can pay them
Speaker 2: less because the cost of living is less. And so
Speaker 2: if you're, say Deborah Humphries, who is mentioned in this
Speaker 2: La Times article, a makeup artist, you know, it used
Speaker 2: to be you could get work pretty easily, and then
Speaker 2: it got harder. And some of it is because the
Speaker 2: productions aren't happening here. Production down several percentage points in
Speaker 2: just in the third quarter of this year, five percent
Speaker 2: decline year over year third quarter twenty twenty four from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. And the question becomes, what can we
Speaker 2: do to keep that business here? There's a lot being done.
Speaker 2: So for example, Governor Newsom and Mayor Karen Bass, they
Speaker 2: want a double They actually want to more than double
Speaker 2: the amount of money in the tax incentive program.
Speaker 3: They want to more.
Speaker 2: Than double it to seven hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: that would be available every year in tax incentives for
Speaker 2: film production. They got to get it approved by state lawmakers.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know how many people to Sacramento
Speaker 2: want to vote to allocate that much more money to
Speaker 2: something like this, But it could happen. And then Mayor
Speaker 2: Bass put together this Council made up of industry leaders
Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry to find other ways to keep
Speaker 2: more of these productions here. They want to streamline the
Speaker 2: permit process so you can film olive. If you have
Speaker 2: ever tried to go somewhere and run across, you know
Speaker 2: they're filming on a street and it's shut.
Speaker 3: Down, you gotta go around.
Speaker 2: I guess get ready for that to happen more often
Speaker 2: because it'll be easier to shut down streets and film.
Speaker 2: But look, according to the La County Economic develop In Corporation,
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry contributes over one hundred and fifteen billion
Speaker 2: dollars to the economy every year. That there are over
Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty thousand jobs related to this industry.
Speaker 2: That includes the dry cleaners and the delivery drivers, the
Speaker 2: couriers and things like that that are adjacent when.
Speaker 3: You have film production.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I mean, you'd think it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that hard to keep Hollywood in Hollywood until
Speaker 2: you realize that Hollywood, like any other business, is ultimately
Speaker 2: about the money. So if it becomes cheaper to be
Speaker 2: Hollywood in Albuquerque, then Albuquerque will be Hollywood all right here.
Speaker 2: We go. Now you have been warned, and I will
Speaker 2: say it again that this segment is not for children,
Speaker 2: and it is not for the exceptionally squeamish.
Speaker 3: Not so much. I mean this is a medical topic.
Speaker 2: So when I say it's not for children, it's mostly
Speaker 2: so that they don't get any ideas, but it is
Speaker 2: also because it is of a medical nature that perhaps
Speaker 2: you would feel.
Speaker 3: Your child is too young to know about.
Speaker 2: And it comes from the database maintained by the US
Speaker 2: Consumer Products Safety Commission. They keep a database of emergency
Speaker 2: room visits because they want to keep track of how
Speaker 2: people are getting hurt or what kinds of problems that
Speaker 2: they have when they come to the emergency room, to
Speaker 2: see if there are any patterns involving products that they
Speaker 2: should take a look at, as maybe these products are
Speaker 2: too dangerous or more dangerous than we thought.
Speaker 3: I can think of one example lawn darts.
Speaker 2: You may remember a lawn darts where these darts with
Speaker 2: metal spikes on the end, and you would throw them
Speaker 2: on your lawn and people started getting hurt and showing
Speaker 2: up in the emergency room, and eventually there was enough
Speaker 2: data to cause the Consumer Product Safety Commission to say,
Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Wand darts anymore.
Speaker 2: And so now please enjoy a reading from the US's
Speaker 2: of things that people put in their bodies and needed
Speaker 2: help getting out.
Speaker 3: Here we go. I will start with the backside.
Speaker 2: These are things that people came to the emergency room with.
Speaker 2: The grammars terrible. I should have thought about how to
Speaker 2: say it dramatically nicely.
Speaker 3: That was terrible too.
Speaker 2: People who showed up the emergency room had these things
Speaker 2: in their backside. Sometimes they'll put a quote from the
Speaker 2: note from the doctor. The music is great, feels feels
Speaker 2: so good, Chuck MANGIONI, that's why you do it all right.
Speaker 2: Patient states that him and his wife got carried away
Speaker 2: and a portion of a plastic screwdriver handle is in
Speaker 2: his rectum. Oh, somebody had to go to the emergency
Speaker 2: room for the removal of a xylophone mallet no cooking spray,
Speaker 2: I assume in in the can. Also speaking of a
Speaker 2: shampoo bottle, a lotion bottle, a can of deodorant, a broomstick,
Speaker 2: three triple A batteries.
Speaker 3: In another case, two double A batteries in another case,
Speaker 3: one D battery.
Speaker 2: Somebody presented with this problem tried to remove poop with
Speaker 2: a pen a few days ago, lost pen in rectum,
Speaker 2: a fifty cent piece, a scrub brush, a wire hangar,
Speaker 2: two plastic bottles, and a shotglass. That was the original
Speaker 2: title of becks to turn tables in a microphone.
Speaker 3: In the same place. Yeah, yes, time.
Speaker 2: Yes, same place, same time, same place, same bat time,
Speaker 2: same bat place, the tail of a toy dinosaur. Patient
Speaker 2: stakes he tripped in the shower and fell backwards and
Speaker 2: landed on a shampoo bottles who baby shark toy? Patient
Speaker 2: took klenazepam dose three times instead of once and has
Speaker 2: a battery in rectum and has nausea. Marbles, darts, a
Speaker 2: plastic lemon, a fake banana, a jello mold.
Speaker 3: Wait, darts like now darts? Move a dart?
Speaker 2: Yeah, now we will move on.
Speaker 3: Now we will move on to the front of men.
Speaker 2: If you understand what I'm saying, the urethra is the
Speaker 2: medical term. These are things that we're in people's urethras
Speaker 2: when they came to the emergency room. Handle of a
Speaker 2: plastic spoon, a plastic fork, a rolled up magazine page,
Speaker 2: the ring from a power aid bottle, a pen cap,
Speaker 2: a pen, a coffee stir a screw, a paper clip,
Speaker 2: a wax straw.
Speaker 3: A domino. How how did the phone is charging?
Speaker 2: I don't know, a phone charging cable, a thermometer, an
Speaker 2: air pod was it an AirPod or an AirPod pro?
Speaker 2: And finally, not to leave out the ladies, here are
Speaker 2: just a few things that people had stuck inside them
Speaker 2: that the ladies had stuck inside them in a place
Speaker 2: only a lady could. A plastic triceratops, a shot glass,
Speaker 2: a toy fire truck, an egg, a spork, a perfume bottle,
Speaker 2: a pencil, in another case, two pencils, and in the
Speaker 2: third case a pencil sideways, Oh my god, a curling iron,
Speaker 2: a dry erase marker, a spoon, a knife, a bag
Speaker 2: of soil. And the final one I will leave you
Speaker 2: with from the doctor's notes was roughhousing with her husband
Speaker 2: who lifted her up and accidentally dropped her on a
Speaker 2: hot dog cooker. Be safe out there, everybody. This is
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