WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.319 And welcome to Sydney. Stumpo chop his nails on WBZ 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.360 And we have a very interesting person in the studio 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.800 right now, as far as I'm concerned, a very unique, loving, 4 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:13.000 caring human being. I don't think there's many of you 5 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:16.079 out there anymore, like people don't care anymore. But I 6 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.839 need to introduce you. So what is your name? 7 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:21.760 My name is Victor, also known as Victor the Good Boss. 8 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.600 Okay, speaking to go closer, because I don't want people 9 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.280 to miss anything to say. Okay, so you have Vic 10 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.239 the Good Boss. Yes, why are you Vic the Good Boss? 11 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.920 I guess the name says it all. I take care 12 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:34.640 of my employees. 13 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.079 And okay, well let's go back because the listeners don't 14 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:37.640 know what do you do? 15 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.159 So I do landscaping, masonry, a little bit of construction. 16 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:44.560 Right up my avenue. 17 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:46.920 Yeah, maybe I can do some work for you. You 18 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:48.200 show you how good my crew is. 19 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:53.159 Yeah. We always need new guys, right, yeah, thirties because 20 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:55.359 I can't handle the guys anymore. They have in their fifties, 21 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:56.840 but they I'm responsible. 22 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.000 Yeah, getting tired, Yeah, I getting tired. 23 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.240 Yeah, We're all getting tired. The average GC is fifty. 24 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:04.799 Yeah, I would say the. 25 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.959 Average plumbers in their forties late forties and the average 26 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.560 electricians in their early forties across America right now. Yeah, 27 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.519 so we got we've got a problem. It's nice to 28 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:15.319 see a nice, good looking guy. 29 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:16.239 By the way, thank you. 30 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:21.879 Same he's married, yeah, I mean he's engaged this pump 31 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:26.400 okay please, okay, I'll be the Italian mother. You can't 32 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:29.200 date him anyways, he's getting I can be both come 33 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.239 half and half. Okay. So you're a good boss because 34 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.280 you take care of you help, you treat them kindly, 35 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.519 You treat them like human beings, right, that's right. So 36 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:39.920 you believe that loyalty factor. 37 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.239 Yeah, if you're loyal to you, guys, they're gonna be 38 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:45.760 loyal to you. They're gonna stay. You know, they're gonna 39 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:46.200 stick around. 40 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:48.799 Well, Sea Stumple has been around for thirty seven years 41 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.879 because of that philosophy and never has had a lawsuit 42 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.519 on anything not by an end user, a vendor, or subcontractor. 43 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.640 I don't think we've ever had a workman's complaim. 44 00:01:57.959 --> 00:01:58.359 That's good. 45 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.359 Knock on wood please. With that, With all that being said, 46 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.840 most of the time you teach people loyalty by showing 47 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.639 that's right, and you're always going to get that one 48 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:12.560 idiot that has zero. 49 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.599 Loyalty, right, and they're always going to be there. 50 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.439 They're always going to be there. But the majority have 51 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.479 found out. They've all watched her grow up. Some of 52 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:21.879 these guys are still with me from day one. 53 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:22.960 That's loyalty. 54 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.879 And I'm not thirty five years old anymore, right, So 55 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.599 a lot of those guys have died that I started 56 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.080 with at twenty three years old and retired. Oh wait, 57 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.240 was a big loss those years eight nine to ten. 58 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.879 A lot of guys went in became inspectors and salesmen 59 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.319 or whatever. But I've seen it all out here. But 60 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.319 what I can tell you the I'm seeing, and you're 61 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.599 young enough to you'll be able to feel this, is 62 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.039 that the next generation coming up, these sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, 63 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:51.120 twenty year old kids, they know what they want, they 64 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.360 know what they want, and the ones that want to 65 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.840 go to vocational school going and they want to learn 66 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.520 the trades, and the ones that want to become doctors, lawyers, 67 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.319 and everything in between. It's like, if we don't have, 68 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.319 if we don't need a college education, we're going into 69 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:07.479 the trades, that's right. Yeah, and I'm going to say it. 70 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.199 I've been saying for fourteen years. Your next million years 71 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:14.199 are plumbers, hvac's, electricians. Now they're talking about it, but 72 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.560 we can go back to my TV show fourteen years. 73 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.639 I don't even know how long ago, how long two 74 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.439 thousand and what, nine, ten, nine ten, that we talked 75 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.759 about it radio. I've been talking about it for nine 76 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:27.800 years and you name it. I've been on it, pushing 77 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.840 the trades. Yeah, so it's now, but we've lost fifteen 78 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:35.360 years of getting good guys out there, right, So I 79 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.879 don't know, but you guys will, you'll feel for a while. 80 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.759 You're going to find that. You know, good subs are 81 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.319 hard to get, but you're going to train your guys 82 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:44.840 up for what you do. You know, as long as. 83 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.000 You keep your guys, you know, if you're happy with them, 84 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:48.639 you're loyal, they're going to stay. 85 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.280 But you also have to learn masonry. Macery is not 86 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.159 oh my god, yeah, I mean no, it's not. I 87 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.280 mean people don't understand. They think, okay, yeah you can. 88 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:57.719 You can slap it together for sure. 89 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:59.560 Yeah, it's going to fall apart in three years. 90 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.360 What I by it I'll know that you threw it. 91 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.240 I'm like, oh boy, okay, right, So but to teach them, 92 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.120 you know, teach them and show them. And but it 93 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:08.800 is a form. 94 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:09.919 Of art, Yeah, it definitely is. 95 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.759 But what makes you other besides a good boss and 96 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.959 loyal you bring something very special to what you do 97 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.160 for the public out here in Boston, and I want 98 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:22.319 my listeners to know what you do. 99 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:23.439 Yeah. 100 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.920 I like to take homeless people off the streets if 101 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.399 they're struggling with addiction. I like to do random acts 102 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.720 of kindness and make the world a better place. That's 103 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:35.759 my main things. 104 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.360 So what you're taking a lot for granted here I 105 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.079 watch you on Instagram. Yeah, you can be putting yourself 106 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.839 into very dangerous situations out there, extremely dangerous and you're 107 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.519 by yourself in that truck. 108 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:48.040 Yeah. 109 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.600 Sometimes my friends with me, but most of the time 110 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.079 I'm by myself and. 111 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.560 You're just stopping and you're you're paying for this out 112 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:56.240 of your pocket. 113 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.240 Yeah for the most part. 114 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.240 You know, you get married, right, Yeah, you're just gonna 115 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.920 tell you, like, hey, buddy Weened that we're gonna have 116 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:06.560 a child soon, like you need to, like. 117 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.240 I have two kids, Oh, you have two kids? 118 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.720 Oh yeah, all right, So and you do this because 119 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.160 why you just want to sincerely help people. 120 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.199 Yeah, because I know there's some people that are on 121 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.319 the streets are you know, struggling with addiction that they 122 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:21.480 didn't choose that life. 123 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.000 It just happened. 124 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:25.680 You can get into an accident and then go to 125 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.399 the hospital, get prescribed a pill or whatever. He addicted, 126 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.879 and then you're addicted. You know, not everyone chooses it. Yeah, 127 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:33.519 I mean when I was young, I was stupid. I 128 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.439 chose drugs because I wanted to. But I cleaned my 129 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.519 act up and I ended up going to prison and 130 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.439 I came a long way, you know, I really. 131 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.560 So you've been on both sides. There go that now, 132 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.560 so you've lived in that lifestyle and now you're living 133 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:51.360 this lifestyle. 134 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:51.720 Yeah. 135 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.560 And obviously at what age did you switch? What age 136 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:57.720 were you when you got arrested. 137 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.959 I was arrested, so I went to prison in twenty twelve. 138 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.639 I got out at the end of twenty and thirteen. 139 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.399 So when I when I was in prison, that's when 140 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.959 I changed. I've always been a good person, you know, 141 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.360 I was like always a good person. I just I 142 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.360 made the wrong decisions and it led me. You know, 143 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.000 into the wrong crowd and bring it. I grew up 144 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:21.439 in Saugus. 145 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.480 Okay, you no a truck kid. Yeah, I'm an a 146 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:25.040 truck kid. 147 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:28.480 I dropped out of high school. School just wasn't for me. 148 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.560 And like I said, I've always been a good kid. 149 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:34.160 It's just I made the wrong decisions. 150 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:38.879 So you would never Okay, you're you were partying, You're 151 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:40.800 doing all the wrong things. But you were an addicted 152 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.120 that the addiction bugg didn't get you. 153 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:44.240 Well it did. 154 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:50.160 I was physically addicted, so you yeah, yeah, And then 155 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.800 I was selling them to support my habit. And then 156 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:55.199 when I went to prison, that allowed me to get clean. 157 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:56.519 I had to get clean in prison. 158 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.560 I didn't know there's more drugs in prison the result. 159 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.120 There are, but I chose not to do it. So well, 160 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.480 so you get to prison one time I did it, 161 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:04.600 but after that was it. 162 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:06.839 Well that's the one time doesn't count. You just block 163 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.720 that one off. But you're in prison and you're there 164 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:12.600 for a year obviously, so you didn't get a big set. 165 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.319 It almost so terrible. What did you do? 166 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.240 So I was selling drugs, got selling drugs, possession with 167 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:23.439 intent and I was looking at you know, five to 168 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:27.439 seven years in the beginning, but they dragged, they dragged 169 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:28.319 it out so long. 170 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:29.879 It was three years I was out. 171 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.839 On bail, and then I was showing good, you know, 172 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:34.560 started a business, doing the right thing. 173 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.920 But then after see that's the. 174 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.639 Pot I don't like. So you had three years behind 175 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.199 you doing the right thing, opened up a company, started business, 176 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.199 and let's put your backwards, which could have set you backwards, 177 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.879 which I don't like that pot. Yeah right, and now 178 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.120 you see people get a jail that do horrific things 179 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.040 and doing even get sentenced and you're going. 180 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.879 Why huh, I know it's crazy. 181 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.480 So the judge sees you going in a good direction, 182 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.399 it just doesn't give you. Okay, you gotta wear an 183 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:09.319 ankle bracelet for a year. Yeah, amazing, how things have changed. Huh. 184 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:10.120 Yeah, it is crazy. 185 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:15.079 World is in less than a decade. In eight years. Yeah, 186 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.319 do you guys break into one of my client's houses 187 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.439 home arm invasion? Yeah, let them out on an ankle bracelet. 188 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.439 That's crazy and one thousand dollars bail. Think they're here? 189 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:27.160 This is crazy. 190 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:28.959 Yeah. The systems messed up. 191 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:30.720 So messed up, and you hear you out doing the 192 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:34.320 right thing three years opened up Starge of landscaping company. 193 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.159 I would assume, right, yeah, and it could have set 194 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.600 you back tenfolds, but you didn't allow it to. 195 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.360 No, I definitely didn't. I have a great family. You know, 196 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:44.720 my family. 197 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:46.480 When did you realize you had that great family when 198 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:47.240 you came out of jail? 199 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:51.120 No, I've known it my whole life, you did, yeah, okay, Yeah, 200 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.159 they've always supported me, even when I was in jail 201 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:53.759 all that. 202 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:55.440 I thought, we gotta go to break Yep, I'm Sinning 203 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.919 Stump and you listen Toughest Nails on WBZ, and we'll 204 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.559 be right back and welcome back to Tough Nails on WBS. 205 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.639 And I'm Cindy Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha and. 206 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:05.679 The Good Boss, the Good Boss. 207 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.440 We're gonna just keep calling the Good Boss. Okay. I 208 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.559 like them. So you knew you had a good family. 209 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:10.919 Yeah, definitely. 210 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.440 I think most kids they got a good family. 211 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:15.720 No, no, no, do. 212 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.440 You think most kids have good families? No? 213 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.159 No, I think there's a lot of kids that come 214 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.519 from I guess they call them broken houses, or you 215 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:24.799 can have. 216 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.639 A broken house. What does that doesn't mean if you 217 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:31.639 have a crappy mom and dad, whether together or not. Yeah, 218 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:33.720 then you got a crappy mom and dad. That's it. 219 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:36.840 That's it right, right, Well, you get one, but then 220 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.080 one holds the family together, you know what I mean. 221 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.679 But I feel like there's such a stereotype or broken house. 222 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.279 Yeah, it is a stereotype. I mean, look at you know, 223 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:49.600 your dad and I separated when you were already seventeen, sixteen, seventeen, Yeah, 224 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.840 so you would already I liked it. Through you liked it. 225 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.399 Everyone wild stop helicoptering me. 226 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.240 It was great, But already you're at that age. But 227 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.440 I never saw a household where you fought. So like when. 228 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.519 People tell me that, like their parents got divorced, and 229 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:03.879 all I did was see my parents fight, I go, 230 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:04.360 I don't know. 231 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:04.679 What that is. 232 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.440 So that was kind of my household. So my parents 233 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.200 did split. I ended up living with my mother. You know, 234 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.039 they fought. There's a lot of just yelling and screaming, 235 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.360 breaking things from my father's side. And I don't know, 236 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.559 maybe me seeing that as a kid really just changed 237 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:23.440 the way that you think. 238 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:28.559 More fathers of the mothers. I think it's fifty fifty. 239 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:32.080 Yeah, really, I feel like the mothers are more more sweet, 240 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:35.200 like my mother, she's sweet, she's you know, she's great 241 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.000 to me. My father's more strict. He's from Portugal, from 242 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.919 the Azors. Yeah, and my mother wasn't as strict. 243 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.000 So I guess I'm my family's the opposite. 244 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:45.559 Yeah. 245 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.120 Yeah, I'm the one that all her friends and guys 246 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:51.320 in the twenties, I'm not. Yeah, I'm gonna keep walking 247 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.639 to Sydney stumble is your mother? Yeah, I don't want 248 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:55.720 to end up with some many shoes on my feet 249 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.799 on the Child's river. So I'm just gonna keep walking. 250 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:04.679 But I think in my generation, the father, you, Dad's 251 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:06.679 coming home, and Mom's like, I'm wait till your father 252 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.000 comes home from work, right, and you know it's just 253 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.840 Mom was just mom and dad was like okay. He 254 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:13.480 gave me that one look with the eyebrow, and I 255 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.440 knew stage left, like I pushed all the buttons. But 256 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.200 I never had parents that put their hands on my brother. Ye, right, 257 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:26.039 So I just think that my generation, I think, and 258 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.799 also being from the North Shore and then moving to Newton, 259 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.519 I didn't even know what stepmother and father was until 260 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:34.240 I moved to Newton. I didn't know. I came home 261 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.200 and said, mom, everybody has stepped this and stepdad. How 262 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.320 come people? And she explained to me, well, how come 263 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.480 it's not like that and people, and she's like, everybody's 264 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:44.799 too poor to get divorced, to just be together. Oh 265 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:46.639 I see, so if you're rich, you can get divorced 266 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:51.000 if you're poor. But okay, so we've established that both 267 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.279 parents either the mom can be real jerk off when 268 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.919 the father can be White people have kids, say I 269 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:59.519 think you owe your kids for the rest of your 270 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.799 life to me. I brought you in this world. I 271 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.519 can take you out and I will take care of 272 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.000 you for the rest of my life. That's the way 273 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.799 I grew up, so and that's how I treat I'll. 274 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.240 Always be there for my girls. I'll never walk out 275 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:15.480 of them. Put it that way. 276 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.600 Okay, So now you come out of jail, you go, 277 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.840 you do your time, You come back to your business. 278 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:23.440 Who's running your business while you're in the kid. 279 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.519 I had had to let it go, so I restarted it. 280 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:29.840 Say that. See that that's where that's the system failed you. 281 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:35.480 As I'm concerned, maybe maybe that system didn't fail you 282 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.159 at the end, because when you came. 283 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:38.399 Out, maybe stronger. 284 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:38.919 Made you strong. 285 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:40.399 Wait, so I want to what age. 286 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:42.559 So when I went into jail. 287 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.759 The second time, first time the first time, but then 288 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:46.799 you have one time. But then you said something happened 289 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:47.799 and he lost his business. 290 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:52.120 That's yeah. I was out on bail. So I went 291 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.240 to jail just for like a night, a couple of nights. 292 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.120 He gets arrested, Sam judge, he makes bail, and now 293 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.240 he goes opens up a company, keeps his ask clean 294 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:02.679 for three years and then they go into court in 295 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.320 front of a jury or judge. Yeah, yeah, sentence. 296 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:05.639 Yeah. 297 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.519 Well I was going to court like every month, now 298 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.320 I did. I did have a little issue, like at 299 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.480 the end of my term, before I knew I was 300 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.559 going away, I started using again. Oh okay, yeah, so 301 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.559 this is at the very end. And then that's when 302 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:20.200 they said, all right, just put him in no more, 303 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:21.480 you know, keeping him out on bail. 304 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.840 So and then you got caught with this issue. 305 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:25.519 Yeah. 306 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.000 I was still looking at jail time, but then I 307 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.200 got caught. It was like three years later. 308 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.600 There's a chance that if you didn't mess up at 309 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.879 that three year point, you might not have got No. 310 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.240 I still would have went no matter what, Yeah, no 311 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.440 matter what. But I had that hanging over my head. 312 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.360 I was so stressed out starting a business knowing that 313 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.080 I'm still going to prison. So I think that just 314 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.240 pushed me back into doing drugs. 315 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.440 We could all make excuses, of. 316 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.559 Course, yeah, but I know what I did was wrong. 317 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.200 And so we know that you've sat on both sides 318 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.039 of the table. Now now you clean from drugs. How long. 319 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.120 Thirteen years and just celebrated thirteen years. 320 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.159 Is it a fight for you? 321 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:06.519 No? 322 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.279 Not Now it's been so long you don't care. No, 323 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.399 it just doesn't even cross my mind. I just think 324 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:18.080 of my kids. And your drug was opioids, cocaine with alcohol. 325 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:18.840 You liked everything. 326 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 Yeah, I was a party animal. I really was. 327 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:25.960 So now today, thirteen years later, you decide how many 328 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.799 years ago that you're going to drive around the streets 329 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:31.360 of Boston and help people. I've seen you bring food 330 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.279 and take them to get food and say you're ready 331 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.440 to get clean. When you're ready to get clean, here's 332 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:37.639 my car, and I'll get your bed. 333 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:38.039 Yeah. 334 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:41.240 But and you're doing this, and you're self financing all 335 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:41.879 this on your own. 336 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:46.200 So I do gofundmes. I started a nonprofit. Now, every 337 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.080 person that wants to come off the streets. I do, 338 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.960 like I said, a GoFundMe and that's how that gets funded. 339 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.840 The small it's the state money here, buddy. 340 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:55.039 I don't get any state money. 341 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.399 No, no, I know. But isn't it bothering you that you're 342 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:57.840 out there? 343 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:58.639 Definitely? 344 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.000 And we're a rich state, mass Okay, we're called taxa 345 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.720 chuosets for yes, right, so, and I don't I won't 346 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.080 make this political. But now you're out there, single handlely 347 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.879 trying to help people. And then all these micros come 348 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.080 here and they get health care and they got what 349 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.799 they got hotel, phones, medical. 350 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.080 But what about the people that are here, that. 351 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.440 Have been here, that were born and raised in Boston. 352 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.519 It's sad because what I'm doing is actually working. You know, 353 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.679 these people that want to come off the streets, I'm 354 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.600 giving them everything that they need, and I'm doing it 355 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.240 with minimal resources. You know, if I get a scholarship, 356 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:33.919 they take that scholarship, they go to a private, paid 357 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.879 facility where they're going to get better care. I know, 358 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.759 people say you can get clean anywhere as long as 359 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.120 you put your mind to it, But if you go 360 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:45.279 to a private facility versus a state facility, it's going 361 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.080 to be much easier for you to actually do this 362 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:48.840 going private. 363 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.200 Yeah, but private costs money. They don't have health insurance, 364 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.840 and we know it's some money grabbed. Yeah, big time, right, 365 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:56.960 it's a big time money. 366 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.120 There's a lot of facilities that are just in it 367 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.399 for the money. I've partnered in the past with the 368 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.639 ones that I think actually care about people. 369 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.639 But what happens when there's no money to get them 370 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.480 to help? They'll let them go in. First of all, 371 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.080 detoxing off heroin, you're out in three four days, that's 372 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:13.480 correct there. 373 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:17.000 Well, now it's fetanyl, so it's like six seven days 374 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:17.759 for the fetanyl. 375 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.519 Then you have trank. There's a new drug called trank 376 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:24.159 that's eating your flesh. Great, it's it's awful. 377 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.600 It's more in Kensington. I found that out because I 378 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.480 just took a female off the streets almost ninety days ago, 379 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:32.799 and she was living on the streets for three years. 380 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:34.840 And that's a whole nother story we can get into. 381 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.879 We are they living on the streets in Boston, how 382 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.039 in the cold and this was a cold winter that 383 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:40.840 we just had, you know, And they don't go in, 384 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.080 they don't go to shelters. Some of them do, and 385 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.120 Honey is still on just massive. 386 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.799 Just drive by you can see it. 387 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.919 Is definitely more and more clean now you know, they 388 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:52.039 did a good job cleaning it up. 389 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:53.879 But they do push them further down, further down. 390 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.000 I think there's I don't know exactly where they put them, 391 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.639 but there is some housing. But there's still some people 392 00:16:58.720 --> 00:16:59.600 you know on the streets. 393 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.360 But you're you're high. You're high as a kite on 394 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.839 drugs like the cold weather doesn't really you know. 395 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.319 They're walking around talking like on bananas, thinking they're talking 396 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:07.880 on a phone. 397 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:09.160 That's what it looks like. 398 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:10.839 It's very sad. 399 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:12.319 I can't I can't go look at that. 400 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:16.960 It's sad, it really is, and it's scary too, just. 401 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:19.880