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Speaker 1: This is Chris. Do what I and my family do.

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Pile into the family truckster and listen to d and

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Jason discuss classic eighties and nineties movies and music on

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the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast. All right, Jason,

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ready to do the podcast? I guess so, Jason Son

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but podcasting, Lacarode but podcasting, Yes, okay, podcasting no, okay,

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podcasting guests so sooner or later, squished.

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Speaker 2: Like grape man, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirly You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are here.

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Speaker 1: Today to compare nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty five

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La to New York, Karate to Karate, both with Italian leads.

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Yeah won Italian American and one Italian African American, and

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it is all eighties gold.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so much fun to talk about these

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movies because it is the glow and sweep, the leg

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and wax on, wax off and stuff that we have

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had running around our brain for forty years.

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Speaker 1: Now. I've literally got the glow right now. Ladies and gentlemen,

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If you're listening to this podcast for the first time

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or the one hundredth time or whatever. You are one

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of those folks that wants to escape your everyday life

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and go back to the days when you thought you

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could cure somebody's muscle illness by slapping your hands together

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and coming together, or that if you tried hard enough,

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you could catch a bullet in your teeth. I wish

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you could see my face, if you could glow. Then

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we are the podcast for you. Just to tell you, guys,

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we are an independent podcast. It's me and Jason and

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Speaker 2: Check us out on Patreon. Before you say one Hit Wonder,

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I think we need to change into like lightning at

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a bottle.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you got some hate on that facebooks.

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Speaker 2: Give me a break.

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Speaker 1: There is some There are some die hard Beach Boys fans.

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They're about to draw and quarter you for suggesting they

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might be a one hit wonder. Yes, it's not all

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one hit wonders. We do have some people that we

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would just say these are songs outside of their realm

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or special in some way.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've even covered carry unfortunately, but but you

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should still check out that episode because there's still some

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gold there. There is no dolphin noises at all. Okay,

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so we got to jump in now. People have come

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to listen to the Karate Kid versus the Last Dragon,

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which is what we're here to talk about today. Have

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the Sun versus.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Leroy Blues.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm gonna take you back though, I'm not

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going back to eighty five. I'm not going back to

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eighty four, going back to ninety three. No, not nineteen

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ninety three, No, not eighteen ninety three. I'm going back

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to seventeen ninety three on the birth of Ryu Ryuko,

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who is the guy who invented the choreographed pattern of

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kung fu, a repeated pattern wax on wax off that

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teaches you the moves. Okay, teach me the moves the

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all right, So in about eighteen seventy, several years later,

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a guy named Higa. She say this right, A guy

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named Higa shi Ona Kanrio went from Okinawa to China.

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He did not get drunk and fall asleep in a

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fishing boat, okay. But he did travel to China on

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the pretext of becoming a translator, and he ended up

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being the servant of Ryu Ryuko for years. He begged

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Rayu Ryuko to teach him, but Ryu Ryoko said no,

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I'm not teaching anybody. And then there was a flood

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and Canrio saved Ryu Ryuko's dotter from drownding, and Ryu

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Raiko said, okay, I will teach you my kung fu.

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The name of that kung fu is the white Crane method.

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Speaker 1: That's number one? All right? So he works with him

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for many years, and then he takes this Chinese form

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of martial arts and brings it back to Okinawa, where

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he's from, and he becomes a sinse and he calls

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this martial art Naha te name of the region plus tay,

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which means hand right. Learn that from mister Miyagi. Right, yeah,

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he means hand right right, okay. So he teaches there

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and he gets a fourteen year old that comes in

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who is the son of a wealthy shop owner, and

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next fifteen years until Canrio's death okay, And then in

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honor of his master's death, this shopowner's son goes to

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China to visit his master's grave. But while he's there,

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he he learns this new type of martial art called

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roki shoe, and it's a hand exercise which emphasizes the

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rotation of the wrist. He uses that in combination with

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the nahat that he'd been learning for fifteen years now,

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teaching it himself, this shopowner's son, and he calls it

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ok nawan goju Riyu is a hard soft style. One

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of his students then brings this hard soft style to

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New York City. Yeah, a seventeen year old kid shows

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doesn't really speak very good English. But the seventeen year

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old kid says, listen, I got beat up by a

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bunch of bullies. This is nineteen sixty four. Got beat

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up by a bunch of bullies. I went to this

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other karate school, and all the guy wanted to teach

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me was how to be mean and how to get revenge.

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hardsoft style. Okay, but the guy who teaches him doesn't

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speak English very well. Right, But what he does get

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from him is the name of his teacher, the name

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of the shopowner's son. Okay, the name of the shopowner's

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son is Kojin Miagi. Now that seventeen year old kid

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goes on to get his degree and he writes a

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story marshally based on his experience. The seventeen year old kid.

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writes is called The Karate Kid.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so good, well done, well done.

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Speaker 1: I'm done for the day. I'm gonna sit back and

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let you do the rest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, okay. So here's what I know about

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Robert Mark Cayman. Okay, so you're right. He writes The

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Karate Kid based on his own life experiences where he

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four and he was just this scruddy little kid yeah,

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but he goes on. He writes Taps, he writes the Transporter,

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he writes the Bandida's movie with Bruce Willis, I think

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is in it. He writes the Taken Movies and one

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of my least favorite movies of the nineties.

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Speaker 1: So let's hoping it would come up.

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Speaker 2: He writes the fifth Elements.

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Speaker 1: I know, right, we had just talked about that when

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we did our IMDb MVP. I was an episode just

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a month or two ago. Go check that one out.

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But yes, one of the movies that I really liked

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from the nineties that you really hate.

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Speaker 2: Gary Oldman, you should have lost right there, you know

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what happened there? And then so he presents the script

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The Karate Kid, Yeah, to the director of Rocky.

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Speaker 1: I know, right. So that guy's name is John g. Avelson, Right,

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he was the guy they picked to direct Rocky. Now,

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keep in mind, Rocky was never supposed to be a hit, right.

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It was an unknown writer, unknown star. And if you

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look at John g Avilson's IMDb record, it's a lot

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of misses, right, and about half a dozen super fantastic

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the here you go, So.

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Speaker 2: I've got a list here for you. So Rocky the

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Best Picture nineteen seventy six, Sylvester Stallone and all of

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a sudden is on the map as a scriptwriter and

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an actor. He does the movie Neighbors in nineteen eighty

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one with John Belushi and Dan Ackright.

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Speaker 1: Not their best movie, Okay, so that's what we're going

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to call that a miss. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then he does of course Karate Kid Credit Kid two,

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KARTI Kid three awesome, pretty good and okay some people

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He does the Molly Ringwold movie for Keeps in like

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eighty eight, remember that one. Sure he's pregnant. Yeah, he

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does Lean on Me with Morgan Freeman. That's a fantastic

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that's a great movie. Right, And then actually kind of

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an underappreciated movie in the eighties, I think eight Seconds

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with Luke Perry.

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Speaker 1: Luke Perry, that's right, Yeah he was. I mean, Sylvester

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did some really great things, and then John G. Efflson

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that is in the miss category.

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Speaker 2: Listen before I jump on my shobbox, Deft Dave loves

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that movie is terrible. Yeah, it's got

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one Oklahoma's own, isn't it right? Tommy Moorrison, Yeah, yeah.

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basketball game in his high school the other day. Yeah,

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and I sent you a picture of the bust. I'm like, hey, guys,

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look where I am. And everyone's like, who's that?

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Speaker 1: What was that? Guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Tommy Moorison.

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Speaker 1: So the way that Robert Mark came in gets his

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script to John g Avilson is the producer a guy

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named Jerry Wintraup. Have you heard of him?

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Speaker 2: Briefly?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I, for some unknown reason have read his biography.

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It's been a few years ago. But he was just

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this kind of incredible producer and I can't I mean,

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he's got a ton of stories and they're all great,

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but I will just tell you this. He brought Elvis back.

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Elvis was Elvis in the fifties and then petered out

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in the late sixties and seventies, and Jerry Wintrop is

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the guy responsible for bringing him back, bringing him to Vegas,

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doing all that, And there's a great story that goes

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along with it where he basically calls the colonel and

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says I want to do a headline tour with Elvis

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as the headliner. And the colonel is I mean, he's

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in a game. He's sitting at gambling or something and says,

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bring me a check for a million dollars and we'll talk.

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starts talking to people and literally last second before he

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gets on a plane, says, I find an investor that

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will give me a million dollars. Is able to walk

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up at a craps table and hand a check for

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a million dollars to the colonel to get Elvis back? Wow? Yeah,

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so this idea. This is the producer of the Karate Kid. Right,

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by the way, he was completely against Pat Marida being

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mister Miyagi.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, like what a comedian? No, the guy on

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Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll get into casting here in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to the alternate universe about

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you know, all this.

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Speaker 1: Stuff exactly exactly. So what happens is they get together,

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they decide, Hey, we're going to We're going to make

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this movie. It's not expected to be a big hit,

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right right, And we'll talk casting again here in a minute,

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but I will just tell you that part of that

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process while they were filming the movie is several advocates

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for changing the name of the movie. Top amongst them

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is Ralph Macchio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it does when you sit back and look

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I heard Elizabeth Shoe say she didn't like the title.

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I heard Ralph Machio say he didn't like the title.

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Speaker 1: You petitioned every day, would say to anybody that would listen,

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Let's think of another title. What other title can we

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have for this movie? They literally paid DC Comics to

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have the rights to that name because DC Comics had

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but he really wasn't. He was just a martial artist guy.

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that was a great title.

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Speaker 2: And so here's the story with that. Yeah, I heard this.

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it listed as the Karate Kid Project. Just as a

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placeholder every day. They would be like, Okay, listen, we

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need a title. He's like, well, you know, I'm still

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working on it. It's this karate Kid story. And they

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finally were like, if you don't give us a title

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in the next ten minutes, we are we're out. So

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he's like, okay, the Karate Kid. So that's it, right, Yeah,

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are familiar with the movie and we're familiar with the

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legacy and the story and all that stuff, it does

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sound like a Saturday Morning special. So I do get

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why they didn't like the title. By the way, I

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meant to mention this to you. Another one of the

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movies that Robert mark Kaman wrote is a movie called Gladiator. No,

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not the one with Russell Crowe.

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Speaker 1: The one with cep It getting Junior and the other

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dude from a Few Good.

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Speaker 2: Men Yeah and Brian Denahey, yeah. And it's like a

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it's like a karate boxing type of movie. Brian Denn

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he's like Tommy Boy's dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or you know, or the guy from First Blood whatever,

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you know, the sheriff right right, right. So one of

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the people that I don't think belongs in casting. He

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belongs in the pre production. When they got the cast together,

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none of them knew any martial arts. Ralph Moncio didn't

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know martial arts, williams Avoca didn't know any Crease Martin

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we know that can come and train these guys?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And he had this very specific way of training them

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where he separated some of them off and put some

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of them together. But that guy's the guy who trained

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him was the stunt coordinator. His name was Pat E. Johnson,

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Not Patty, but Pat E Johnson, right, right, right? So

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Pat Johnson would train all of the Cobra Kai guys together,

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and he trained them specifically in that kind of hardcore

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way that they would have been trained by Crease. He

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trained Ralph Mancio and Pat Marita together, and he used

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a softer hand with them, and he basically said they

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would both be in pain and they would commensurate in

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their pain together. And I let that be, okay because

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he I mean, but he was a guy who had

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been doing at this point in martial arts for ten years. Okay, right,

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do you know what movie he got his start in? No.

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Ten years earlier. No, No, a little movie that will

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segue right into our next topic called Enter the Dragon. Ooh,

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that's Pat Johnson's very first movie as a stunt coordinator.

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He works with Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon, Kareem

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Abdul Jabbar, Yes, and Chuck Norris. He ends up working

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later on with Brandon Lee. I mean he if you

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look at his IMDb, he is the guy you go

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to for martial arts.

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Speaker 2: And he plays the referee at the end of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Is the mustached referee? Yeah? Call in the fight? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How about that? That's incredible.

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our next story. Enter the Dragon. Yes, Any of the

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Dragon came out in nineteen seventy three. It was widely

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accepted that this was going to be the movie that

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may or broke Bruce Lee. Right surely, It's like, this

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is gonna make him or it's gonna kill him, and

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all of Hong Kong, where Bruce Lee was from, like

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revered this guy as a hero, expected this to be

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the big breakout role changed the way that people from

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China are depicted in movies. That Chinese man becomes the

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hero and so there's a lot of build up for

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this movie Enter the Dragon. Well in July of nineteen

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seventy three, just a few months before the movie is

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to be released, Bruce Lee goes with his business partner

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and his probably girlfriend married at the time, probably had

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this mistress, right, okay, And they're in an apartment and

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they're talking about what will be the sequel to Enter

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the Dragon called Game of Death. This becomes ironic a

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few hours later because Bruce Lee comes down with a headache.

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and lays down. His business partner leaves to go get

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some dinner. A little while later, he calls back to

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the apartment and is talking to the girl friend and

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she'd goes to wake up Bruce Lee, but Bruce Lee

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won't wake up, and so she calls her personal doctor.

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can't get a hold of her personal doctor, so they

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start calling his personal doctor. It ends up I don't

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know why they are not calling the ambulance, but it's

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an hour and fifteen minutes before Bruce Lee is ever

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actually taken to the hospital. He had been looked at

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by a doctor, had no breathing, no heart rate. By

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the time they get him to the hospital, they pronounce

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him dead from what the cause of death listed at

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that time was a reaction to the aspirin in painkiller. Now,

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as it turns out, I mean this was nineteen seventy three.

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in the painkiller that was used that they determined later

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on had some adverse reactions, including brain swelling, and so

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they discontinued the use of that other chemical. Fifty years later,

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when Bruce Lee's brother is hiring a private investigator to

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look at the files and their god going through all this,

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ultimately they determined, because there was a valid concern that

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he was killed, that he was murdered. Sure, what they

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ultimately decide is it was another chemical, not the aspirin,

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but this other chemical in the painkiller that he had

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gotten that caused his brain to swell and that ultimately

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led to his death. Still an accident, just a different cause.

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Wow yeah wow. Pat Johnson said that Bruce Lee said

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something very important to him at one point. He said,

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the usefulness of the cup is in its emptiness. That

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is to say, if you have an empty cup, you

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can use it for what you need it for. You

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can fill it with what you need to quench whatever

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thirst you have. But if the cup is already full,

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then you're stuck with whatever it's already full with. So

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if you're working with someone who's already been trained in

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a certain way, they're already full. Your most useful student

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is the one who is in an empty cup. He's

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used that little saying throughout his career, teaching all of

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his students and actors in all of the movies that

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he's done. He just passed away in November, by the way,

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Pat Johnson just passed away.

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Speaker 2: Oh man.

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Speaker 1: So nineteen seventy three, Enter the Dragon comes out, Bruce Lee,

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even though he's dead, becomes a international, worldwide superstar, and

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Enter the Dragon is his most famous movie. Fast forward

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ten years later. Okay, it's nineteen eighty three. An actor,

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and I say an actor. He's been in one movie.

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the movie Fame. Okay, his name is Lewis Venosta. Yes.

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He goes to a tenth anniversary screening of Entered the

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Dragon with his girlfriend and when he walks in, it's

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mass chaos like he's he's amazed. He's never been to

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something like this before. People are dressed up in costume,

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people are saying the lines of the movie along with it.

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People are pretend fighting in the aisles. He said, it's

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like going to a rocky horror picture show. It's the

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most amazing theater reaction that he's ever seen before. And

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he thinks to himself, I got to write a story

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about this. He writes that story, Yeah, and that story

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is called The Last Dragon. So, Jason, if you were

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going to be writing a movie from the nineteen eighties

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without telling me you were writing a movie from the

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nineteen eighties, how would you write it?

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Speaker 3: All? Right?

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Speaker 2: So here's what I would do. I would take a

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wholesome kung fu protege who has a Chinese accent for

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no apparent reason, who also eats popcorn with chopsticks, who

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rescues a beautiful MTV v J from a power hungry

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video arcade mogul with a girlfriend who looks like Cyndi

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Lauper and another guy who looks like the black version

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of Mad Max, set in Harlem, all set to the

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song Rhythm of the Night by Debarch Into.

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Speaker 1: The Street, We're all of em is right there, and

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you'll be well, I love away.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect nineteen eighties karate movie.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound like an eighties karate movie?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: In nineteen we have this movie that comes out. Now

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it's interesting, this isn't This movie isn't just called The

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Last Dragon. It's called Barry Gordy's Last Dragon. Now we

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know that Barry Gordon didn't write it. How is Barry

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Gordy's The Last Dragon?

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Speaker 2: So Barry Gordy, for those of you who don't know,

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is the founder of Motown Records. Yes, you're talking Smokey Robinson,

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the Supremes, the Jackson Five, the Temptations, that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Diana Ross, Diana Ross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe he had a love affair with Diana Ross.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have a love affair with Michael Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Well, we won't get into that. So we've we've been

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talking for a while about Barry Gordy, not necessarily because

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of this movie, but because we're planning on doing a

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Patreon on the Rockwell song Somebody's watching me right? Rockwell?

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Is Barry Gordy's son one of many children that he has, right,

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And I started looking up his family tree and I

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was like, what the what. Jimmy Carter's mother, her last

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name is Gordy, her maiden name was Gordy, right. Her

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grandfather had a slave, yes, who he got pregnant back

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in the slave days, and that was the grandfather of

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Barry Gordy. It was Barry Gordy the first uh huh,

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and Barry Gordy that started Motown is Barry Gordy the third. Yeah,

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that is to say, President Jimmy Carter and Barry Gordy

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Motown hero share common answers. Oh my god. They're like, yeah,

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it's like half sibling. I don't even know where It's

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too complicated to get to, but.

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Speaker 2: Wow, right, wow, how about that? Follow us on Patreon

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for the rest of that story. Rockwell is his son

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and comes out with a great one hit wonder song.

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Somebody's watching it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this movie comes out March twenty second, nineteen eighty five.

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Now you ask, how did Barry Gordy get involved in this.

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I've got some theories, but basically Motown and the Jackson

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Five and the Supremes had kind of run its course

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a little bit, and he created a movie in nineteen

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seventy two, which was a movie about Billie Holliday, which

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starred Diana Ross, the Wiz Whiz Michael Jackson and Quincy

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Jones and Diana Ross.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you that.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of this comes from It's like

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a concoction. It's like a Frankenstein Monster of the leftover

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parts of Purple Rain with motown and MTV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you put MTV in, and you also put in

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the magic formula that gave us breaking in nineteen eighty

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four and Breaking to Electric Boogaloo in nineteen eighty four,

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both of them. Yeah, you got dance sequences, You've got karate,

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You've got a strong Harlem showing. But it's they really

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do a great job of being completely color blind to this.

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I mean you just look at you look at show

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Nuff's entourage, and he's got a black guy and a

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black girl, and a white guy and a white girl,

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and a Chinese guy and a Chinese girl. I mean,

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it's just it's a rainbow type of a movie. I

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got to tell you, I didn't think about that in

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nineteen eighty five. All I thought was it's a good movie.

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But today, with the way the world is, we look

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at it and go, oh wow, how forward thinking of him.

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So he gets this story, yes, and he's got to

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find a director.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Michael Schultz has got a kind of an

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interesting directing repertoire here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He did some Rockford Files. Yeah, he did Sergeant Pepper's

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Lonely Hearts Club Band.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, Rockford Files, wasn't that one of

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your top TV theme songs? It was from the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was awesome. He did Bust and Loose with

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Richard Pryor. He did carbon Copy with Denzel Washington, Denzel

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Washington's debut movie, put a pin in that name. Yeah,

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he does Crush Groove Hello, def Dave Right. He does

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00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:28,279
Disorderlies with the Fat Boys in eighty seven.

472
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: Again def Dave's favorite movie, right of eighty seven.

473
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: And then when I looked at his catalog, he really

474
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,519
becomes involved in the Young Indiana Jones chronicles.

475
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:38,519
Speaker 1: Is that crazy?

476
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: It's just a weird hodgepodge of movies.

477
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: Do you know what his first directed movie was? Though, No,

478
00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:45,960
you're gonna love this. What it is? A movie called

479
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:49,319
car Wash? That's the god you throw this back to

480
00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,599
our episode from a couple of years ago on Batman

481
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Versus The Dark Knight. Yeah, that's the movie that after

482
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,880
Woody Allen discovered Joel Schumacher as a window dresser at

483
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:03,920
a caes Or wherever it was, that was Joel Schumacher's

484
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:07,519
first movie to write, was called car Wash and it

485
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:10,039
was directed by Michael Schultz, his friend direct.

486
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: Wow. How about that.

487
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: So they've got a movie that involves dancing, that involves

488
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,720
the Harlem music scene, that involves karate and they say,

489
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:22,680
let's get Michael Schultz to come in and direct.

490
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, we didn't mention this, but Louis

491
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,640
Venosa he also wrote Bird on a Wire o Mel

492
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,519
Gibson and Goldie Han, and then he later becomes involved

493
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:33,640
in Grey's Anatomy fantastic.

494
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: So they've got their story, they've got their producer, they've

495
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,880
got their director. Now all they need is a cast.

496
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:41,680
But before we get there, let's jump back to The

497
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,799
Karate Kid and talk about the cast for The Karate Kid.

498
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: Wax on, right hand, wax off, left hand, wax on,

499
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,519
wax off, breed in through nose, out the mouth.

500
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,799
Speaker 2: All right, do you remember when we talked about the

501
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,480
out Yes, not this time last year. Basically everybody in

502
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,319
The Outsiders and Rumblefish was considered for the role of

503
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,960
the Karate Kid. Okay, when they were casting for Daniel

504
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,240
originally called Daniel Webster, not Daniel LaRusso okay because he

505
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,559
wasn't Italian yet. Because he wasn't Italian yet.

506
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just an author of a dictionary. Apparently

507
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,880
right by.

508
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: The way, they liked the name Daniel because it was

509
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,079
Daniel in The Lion's Den.

510
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,799
Speaker 1: Oh well, I can tell you this. I listened to

511
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,839
the commentary on the Karate Kid number one. Those guys

512
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240
are just talking like they're a bunch of friends together,

513
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and so there was very little useful information there.

514
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: Talked of each other.

515
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,319
Speaker 1: I just did it was not it was not helpful,

516
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,000
hardly at all. But I did note. Robert came and said,

517
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I guess I like the name Daniel because apparently in

518
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,079
every script that I write, there's a character that's named

519
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,039
Daniel or Danny. Oh really, yeah, I can't tell you

520
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:58,720
that the Daniels and Danny's another. But he specifically pointed

521
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,079
out the other useful piece of information that I got

522
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,039
from this. This is really great like the director was

523
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,680
talking about that was it forty seven Ford Coop, the

524
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,319
yellow one? You know that Danielsen gets as his birthday present? Right?

525
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,799
That could have easily been in our best Cars of

526
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,000
the eighties movies, right, sure choose. Yeah. John Afflison's talking

527
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:17,599
to the commentary. He's like, man, that was such a

528
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:19,079
great car. I wonder whatever happened to that?

529
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: Right?

530
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:21,559
Speaker 1: And Ralph Manci was like, do you really know it?

531
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,039
And he's like, no, man, that's such a great car.

532
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:26,400
Did it get destroyed or what happened? And Ralph Mont's

533
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
like you really don't know. He's like no, and Ralph

534
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:33,240
Moont's like, I have it. Yeah, he said after the

535
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,680
movie was over, he offered to buy the car. He said,

536
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,119
I want to buy that car. Cos talk to the

537
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,519
maybe the casting director or maybe the one of the

538
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:42,279
stage directors or something like that, and he says, I

539
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,279
want to buy that car, and then it just shows

540
00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:48,799
up gift. So Ralph Mancio has owned that nineteen forty

541
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,799
seven yellow Ford Coop since nineteen eighty six.

542
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,759
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

543
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.

544
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So they're looking for Daniel, So Robert Cayman says

545
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,519
he's got to be a whimp, but he's got to

546
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be a whimp with the chip on his shoulder. Yeah,

547
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,359
this is who they looked at. Sean Penn, Tom Cruise,

548
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,680
Emiliu Estavez, Charlie Sheen, Nick Cage, see Thomas.

549
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: How waiting for a whamp here?

550
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: Right, So all these guys are too too tough. I mean,

551
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:13,920
these guys are tough guys, right.

552
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I saw an interview with these guys from just a

553
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,160
few years ago, and John Appleson said, you know who

554
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,440
one of the people to try out was, and it

555
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,279
was Robert Downey Junior. Right, And he said everybody was like, oh,

556
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,440
you like imagining Robert Downey Junior. You know nineteen eighty

557
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,960
four Robert Downey Jr. As the Karate Kid. And he said,

558
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,119
you know why I didn't cast him? And somebody the

559
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,160
audience goes drugs. He goes, no, not drugs. It's a

560
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200
good guest, but no, he goes, I didn't cast him

561
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,839
because he's iron Man. Daniels Son cannot be iron Man.

562
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,279
He can't be a superhero, right, he has to be

563
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,839
someone with extreme vulnerability. And the guy that was that

564
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,119
guy was Ralph Manchio.

565
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah it was you too much by surf, not too good,

566
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,839
not by myself.

567
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,559
Speaker 2: It was you to.

568
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: Make honey young bee, need young flower.

569
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: Not.

570
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: But the really interesting one I thought was when they

571
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,960
hired for mister Miyagi. So the guy they wanted was

572
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
to Shiro Mfuni.

573
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,799
Speaker 1: If you don't know who that is, you need to

574
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,119
go check out some of curacare with Sawa movies right

575
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,000
seven Samurai Raschaman, Hidden Fortress.

576
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: This guy's tough.

577
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,519
Speaker 1: It would have been an entirely different Miyagi. It would

578
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:26,519
have been a Miyagi that was more like crease.

579
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,559
Speaker 2: Yes, here's the thing to Shira. Mafuni does not speak English.

580
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:32,640
So they bring in Pat Marita.

581
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Speaker 1: The comedian.

582
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,319
Speaker 2: The comedian right now, people forget he was in Happy Days,

583
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:38,839
So I forgot.

584
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,599
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about this. Like his name wasn't Al

585
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,400
in Happy Days? Obviously the awl was Al, Al was Al.

586
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,160
They were like, you're Al. He's like, no, my name

587
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,079
is Takei Shmosho or something like that, and he's like,

588
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,160
but the neon to change the sign was too expensive,

589
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,880
and I am out.

590
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,319
Speaker 2: He was a comedian, funny guy.

591
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you know his whole story? Tell me? Okay,

592
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,000
So there's incredible scene in the Karate Kid where mister

593
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:06,599
Miyagi shows his vulnerability for the first time. He is

594
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920
weeping at the anniversary of the death of his wife

595
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,960
an unborn child. Right, the circumstances that you find out

596
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,880
later is there was no doctor because they were in

597
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,440
an internment camp. Now, Pat Marita was not old enough

598
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,400
at that point to have actually had a wife and

599
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,720
child at the time of the World War two interment camps.

600
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680
But let me tell you this. When Pat Marita was

601
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,960
just two years old, he was diagnosed with a condition

602
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:36,680
called spinal tuberculosis, and it literally left him bedridden, hospitalized

603
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,119
for years. He was basically in a body cast, was

604
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,799
told he would never walk. I mean, he had a

605
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,759
very unpleasant life from the time that he was two

606
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,839
until the time he was eleven, so nine years of this. Right,

607
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,480
then they give him an operation, and the operation is

608
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,960
successful and they are able to teach him to walk.

609
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,400
They are able to teach him to move around and stand,

610
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,480
and suddenly he is able to have a noise, normal

611
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,960
life again. So he gets released to the hospital and

612
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,720
is immediately taken to join his family in an internment

613
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,200
camp in World War two. Really, yes, so he gets

614
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,599
released in nineteen forty two, which is the same year

615
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,319
that all of the interment camps started. Reaction to the

616
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,880
Pearl Harbor bombing. A lot of Japanese citizens were basically

617
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
given a week's notice, Hey, put your life in business

618
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,160
affairs in order, you're going to have to come over

619
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,359
to this camp because this is what we're doing. And

620
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:26,440
in the nineteen eighties they said this was wrong, we

621
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,519
shouldn't have done it, and they're set up a fund

622
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,000
for reparations and all of that, But that doesn't change

623
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,079
the fact that as soon as he breaks free from

624
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,759
the prison of the hospital, he is immediately put with

625
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,359
his own family in what are essentially military barracks, interna camp.

626
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880
But he goes on from that. His family starts a business.

627
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,079
After that, they do a Chop Suey restaurant, No kidding, Wow.

628
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,480
Then tragically his father gets killed in a hit and

629
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,240
run accident. His mother and he keep the restaurant going

630
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,160
for a few more years, but then he's like, I've

631
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,880
got a wife and a kid. I've got to go

632
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,519
get a real job. He becomes a data processor, starts

633
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,319
at the DMV and works HILF up to Lockheed Martin

634
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,599
as a data processor, which is pretty impressive. But he

635
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,079
gets burned out and he's like, I'm done with this life.

636
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,960
I want to go to la and be a stand

637
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,000
up comedian. What what he you know? Who he learned

638
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,039
the most from? Who he learned at the feet of

639
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Red Fox?

640
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: There you go?

641
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Yes, Sanford and Son, which was on my list of

642
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,000
best songs from the composed by Quincy Jones, by the way.

643
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 2: That's right, that's it.

644
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 1: And he would be he would be on that show.

645
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,440
He would have guest appearances on that show as the

646
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880
you know, the Chinese guy there, yeah, or the Japanese

647
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,720
guy or whatever it was.

648
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dane.

649
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:42,519
Speaker 1: Kardati here, Katia.

650
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 3: Never here.

651
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,839
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's William Zapka. Oh yeah, he plays John

652
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:49,279
and Lawrence.

653
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the side enough, man, what is wrong? But

654
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,680
Johnny enemy.

655
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,319
Speaker 2: Deserves no mercy? Right right right, perfectly cast perfectly. Here's

656
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:08,880
who they looked at for him, Crispin Glover, George McFly.

657
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Well he did karate kick David Letterman's face.

658
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,759
Speaker 2: Could that have been a disaster.

659
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Would have completely been a disaster. I don't I mean,

660
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:22,920
I don't even understand how he's on the list. I

661
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
think he's only on the list because people went really him. No,

662
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,200
they had to because they had to be looking at

663
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,599
all of those you know, Tom Cruise and Charlie Sheen

664
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,039
and Emilio Estevez and all those other guys too for Johnny, right,

665
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,799
they would have all been great Johnny's I.

666
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: Would think so, Yes, Tom Cruse would have been a

667
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,359
great Johnny. But Crispin Glover was the guy that they

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,079
had originally talked about. That's nice, That makes no sense.

669
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,039
Speaker 1: Before we move on, do you want to talk about

670
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,240
William Zappka's audition for the part?

671
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,519
Speaker 3: Oh?

672
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about it.

673
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,519
Speaker 1: I mean he had done he had done pepsi commercials

674
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,440
at this point, right, he had done nothing right. But

675
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,079
he reads this character. He reads the script and he's like,

676
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:56,920
I'm this guy, which is a weird thing to say

677
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,359
when you know that you're the villain. But what he

678
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,160
does is he reads it and he looks at it

679
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,720
from that guy's perspective, and then he gets to the

680
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,359
end where you know, you're not so bad LaRusso and

681
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,920
hands him the trophy and all that, and he's like, okay,

682
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,759
so he's not a bad guy. He just had a

683
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:12,119
bad teacher. But in the interview I saw him, he

684
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,160
was he was like, I was a very young actor

685
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,119
that time. I don't really know a lot about, you know,

686
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,960
doing a backstory or anything like that. I really just

687
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,359
tried to play the moment in the moment, and that

688
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200
was the way I proceeded. But in his audition he

689
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:25,279
went a little further than that.

690
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:27,799
Speaker 2: He grabbed the director by the shirt collar and told you.

691
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,519
Speaker 1: Watch your mouth, threw him in the chair and stormed

692
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:36,799
out the director. The director, Yeah, you don't, you just

693
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,480
you just never ever do that. You will you will

694
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,039
never get cast in anything again. I think this is

695
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,519
his one saving grace, though, is that he walked out

696
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,559
of the room and then he walked back in the

697
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,000
room and he's like, I'm so sorry, I am that

698
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,200
was that was Ny. That is not who I am.

699
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:55,559
That was Johnny. That's not Billy. Okay, that was hilarious.

700
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, listen to this run that Billy Zavka has

701
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,200
in the eighties actually is pretty incredible. So he does

702
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,559
the credit kid, he does just one of the guys. Ye,

703
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:09,320
he does European Vacation. He plays Audrey's boyfriend Jack in European.

704
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,519
Speaker 1: Vacation eighties gold so far.

705
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: He plays Chaz and back to School.

706
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: Again one of the but it's the same guy basically

707
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,840
in every single one. Yeah, he's always Johnny a jerk,

708
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,039
you know, Yeah, always Johnny.

709
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,079
Speaker 2: By the way, at the end, when they were doing

710
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:25,400
the final fight, even in between takes, the crowd got

711
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360
so into it they would boo John Lawrence.

712
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: Right. His mom was in there.

713
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,519
Speaker 2: His mom was in the crowd and she's like, he's

714
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:32,840
really a nice boy.

715
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,079
Speaker 1: She's crying. I was like, why are you moving? It's

716
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,599
not that the cameras aren't even rolling.

717
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,639
Speaker 2: And then of course he goes on to do Hot

718
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,320
Tub time Machine and then.

719
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,599
Speaker 1: That and that is that is a little bit of

720
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,760
gold right there. Now, before he does hot Tub time Machine,

721
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,639
he did a he did a music.

722
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: Video yes called Sweep the Leg.

723
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sweep the Leg by a band called No More

724
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
Kings of course, song about the karate kid.

725
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 2: Right.

726
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,639
Speaker 1: Williams Zabka directs in it, stars in it. You've got

727
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,000
you've got references to Raising Arizona, You've got references to

728
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,519
the cars and Heartbeat City videos. You get to see

729
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,320
William Zabka in a banana hammock skating down the road

730
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,320
with a boombox over his shoulder.

731
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: It's wow.

732
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great video. Go check it out on YouTube.

733
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,599
It is really just called Sweep the Leg, but it is.

734
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,559
It's brilliant. No more Kings. Check that one out.

735
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good.

736
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: So he does hot Tub Time Machine. Those guys then say, hey,

737
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,719
we saw this YouTube video that basically says that Johnny

738
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,760
was the good guy and that Danielson was the bully.

739
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,679
And he goes through it and he's like, guys, I've

740
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,960
kind of always had this theory in my head and

741
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:45,679
that's the way that I played it. And they're like,

742
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,920
what if we do a series where it's Johnny's perspective

743
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,159
and he's he's in his ruined state of life thirty

744
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,880
years later and he has to address all these issues

745
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,679
and then he runs into none other than Danielson. Again,

746
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,440
he's like, I'm in to do it.

747
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Now you've seen Cobra Kai.

748
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: I have.

749
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I've seen three seasons of Cobra Kai. I can't I don't

750
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,920
remember how many of there are at this point, but

751
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,519
I know that I've seen it. I think I've seen

752
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,599
all of the seasons up until the new one's about

753
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,719
to come out in just a little while. And I

754
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,360
will tell you that my fourteen year old son, who's

755
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,440
been watching these for the last several years, is hardcore.

756
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:23,239
Daniel was the villain. Daniel was a villain. He was

757
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,000
the jerk. Johnny's in the right the whole time, Like

758
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,039
I'm not even kidding. Halloween, Yeah, twenty twenty three Halloween.

759
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:33,239
My fourteen year old dressed up in a skeleton costume,

760
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,960
nice painted his face, did the whole thing because he

761
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:41,000
is a Cobra Kai devote. Before we get off casting,

762
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,320
I've got my a whole ometer sheet.

763
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: I made a little spreadsheet the number of times that

764
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960
somebody was in a hole. The I rated it one

765
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,760
through ten on the level of a wholeness. Okay, okay,

766
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,079
and so we'll talk about that here.

767
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,199
Speaker 1: We should have done this for the police episode back.

768
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,599
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So you've got Ron Thomas who plays Bobby.

769
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,039
Speaker 1: Yes, he goes on to be a motivational speaker.

770
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a pastor.

771
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I think he's I think he's just a

772
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,000
motivational speaker. But what happens is later on they do

773
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,960
an episode where they bring back all of the original

774
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,360
well not all but the core Cobra Kai guys and

775
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,639
Johnny and them all hang out together. And I'll give

776
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,239
you the reason in a second. But in that episode

777
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,360
he plays a pastor. Yes, and you'll remember he's the

778
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,840
guy who's He's the guy he's had enough, Johnny. He's

779
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,159
the guy who's always trying to ease it back. He's

780
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:38,599
the guy who's the most reasonable of the Cobra Kai guys. So, yes,

781
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:41,079
enough Johnny alone.

782
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 3: Man, he's had enough. Shut up, Mommy, look at it.

783
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,639
You can't even stand up, go.

784
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: On hand onmie squat Johnny.

785
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: Leave him alone.

786
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,519
Speaker 2: Man, he's had not on the side, but he's had enough.

787
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:52,559
Speaker 1: Man, what is wrong, Johnny.

788
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Enemy deserves no mercy, right.

789
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Right, right right. But he's also the guy that's that

790
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,760
he's like, take him out. He's like, I can beat

791
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,679
this guy. And he's like, I'm sorry, Danny, I'm sorry, Ma,

792
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
you do it. So that's a great character.

793
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,519
Speaker 2: That that he's not just this evil Darth Vader. You know,

794
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,920
all these guys have shades of humanity. I mean, they're jerks,

795
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,679
but what high school boy revved up on testosterone is

796
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:17,599
not done.

797
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff that they did. Absolutely, yeah, Okay,

798
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,480
so keep keep going. You got you got Ron Thomas.

799
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:23,119
Who else you got?

800
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,199
Speaker 2: We got Chad McQueen. He plays Dutch.

801
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:28,119
Speaker 1: Steve McQueen's son. Right. You will remember him because he's

802
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,320
the guy who looks like his hair and eyebrows were

803
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,079
dyed blonde because they were right, which I thought.

804
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Made him a little bit more menacing. It is.

805
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he when he has his fight in the

806
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,400
tournament at the end against Daniel, I mean he is intimidating.

807
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880
His his stare is intense. And in just a little

808
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,880
while earlier, he was the guy who tried to pick

809
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,039
a fight with Daniel in the locker room as he's

810
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,039
just trying to get dressed. Which matter, Your mommy not

811
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:53,320
here to put your clothes on.

812
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,559
Speaker 2: For you, Yeah, mommy not here to address you.

813
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: He was he was full on jerk jerk.

814
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh, and he was great. And he said as points

815
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,039
and no points, you're dead meat. Scared me?

816
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

817
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: And then you've got Rob Garrison. He plays Tommy. He's

818
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,599
the one who's like, yeah, get him the body bag.

819
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,639
Speaker 1: He has got some of the most memorable lines from

820
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,599
this movie and doesn't seem to appear anywhere else and

821
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,760
sadly He's the reason that they have to come back.

822
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,280
I don't they have to come back, but they do. So.

823
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,800
Billy Zapka said that these guys became his core group

824
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400
of friends after this movie. He said, this was basically

825
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,239
like being in a fraternity together, and these guys hung

826
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,199
out all of.

827
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:35,119
Speaker 2: The tilly right. Cool.

828
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so April of twenty nineteen, season two of

829
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Cobra Kai comes out. They get in the band back together,

830
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:43,960
all of the old guys, you know, all of the

831
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,480
old crew gets back together. And the reason that they

832
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,920
get together is because Tommy has cancer. They got to

833
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,280
have basically a one last hurrah, and it's great. They

834
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,119
get in a bar fight together, they drive real motorcycles

835
00:39:56,159 --> 00:40:00,960
around together. It is really a Glory Days style of

836
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,760
a show. It's super well done. And then tragically at

837
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,000
the end, they discover Tommy's body in the tent. You know,

838
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,039
they've been out camping together and he's passed away from

839
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,440
the cancer that he's been dealing with. Oh man, well

840
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,920
this came out April of twenty nineteen. He really did

841
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,519
have cancer. Five months later, the actor actually passed away

842
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,039
from cancer. Tragic. That is really too bad, But what

843
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,880
an incredible legacy. You know, if you're if you're one

844
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,239
of those guys, if you don't have the acting career

845
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,800
that something like that, Ralph Mancio had sure that you

846
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,519
can at least still come back because everybody knows those lines.

847
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,719
Everybody knows the body bag lines, and I think he's

848
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,880
gonna cry. They're great lines. So the ability to celebrate

849
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880
this guy's life just a little bit at the end,

850
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,960
it's a nice send away. I like it.

851
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it. By the way, there's one more Cobra Kai.

852
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,920
I want to mention.

853
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go, Larry B. Scott. Does that ring a

854
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,000
bell to you? I feel like it was kind of

855
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,000
a nerd You talk about Jerry, I'm.

856
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,199
Speaker 2: Talking about Jerry who that's Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds.

857
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, do you see Lamar's throw?

858
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: How come?

859
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,199
Speaker 1: Wims is a master arrow dynamics and he designed the

860
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,239
javelin to go along with Lamar's limp wristed throwing style.

861
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:13,440
He's the first He's the first guy that Daniel has

862
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
to be right from Cobra Kai. Pretty sure, that's right.

863
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,199
He was the first fight. And he's also the one

864
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,280
that when they're sparring, when Daniel first comes into the

865
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,840
dojo to the Cobra kai dojo. That just gets laid out,

866
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:27,880
what are you doing? Finish him?

867
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,519
Speaker 2: Okay, now then let's talk about Ali.

868
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: For a second. Hey, you got a name, Hallie and I.

869
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Shoe in her film debut.

870
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, she'd done what burger King commercials?

871
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: At burger King commercials with Lea Thompson.

872
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was also about to hit it big in

873
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,320
eighty five. Right, yeah, that's right.

874
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: So they wanted Helen Hunt she was did you see that?

875
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely right? Yeah, how about Demi Moore? Yeah, but

876
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
I'm glad they picked Elizabeth Shoe me too, Oh my god.

877
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,239
And that was the other funny thing about the commentary

878
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,280
is that every time she came on the screen, like

879
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,480
all of the guys, now you got an age range

880
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:03,480
of probably forty years, yes, and every single one, I

881
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:07,199
was like, oh man, she's so adorable, she's so cute.

882
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: They called her a strawberry shortcake, and they called Ralph

883
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:11,519
the Cannoli.

884
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,079
Speaker 1: Strawberry Shortcake and the Canoli. Oh and I got this.

885
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,280
Here's the one other tidbit that I got from the commentary.

886
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,519
Do you know who she's dressed up as in the

887
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,480
costume party when when Danielsen comes up dressed as a shower.

888
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: I would never have known that if I hadn't listened

889
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,360
to commentary. Princess Leah.

890
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: What Princess Leah?

891
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,199
Speaker 2: No way, she doesn't look anything like that. She has

892
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,519
no buns, she's carrying around her Wand I was.

893
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Very happy about the white gown, Like, yes, great choice

894
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,519
for Elizabeth Shoe. I'm all for it. But if she's

895
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:41,880
supposed to be Leah, we need to we need to

896
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,079
do something different with her hair. But that's okay. Maybe

897
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:48,280
they were afraid of running into copyright issues. I don't know. Yeah, okay.

898
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,239
So one last guy to talk about in the casting

899
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,320
of Karate Kid, John Crease. Here on the street in competition,

900
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,719
A magnfronts you. He's the enemy. An enemy deserves no mercy.

901
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: The problem is the Lauren. Yeah, he's played by Martin Cove.

902
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah so Martin Marty as his NIT friends call him.

903
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,760
He was in like a kind of standard role in

904
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,960
like kateen Atley back then.

905
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,599
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I guess so I didn't watch the show.

906
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, so he was doing that show. They liked him,

907
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:20,159
I mean, he was a he was a very like

908
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,679
he was a leading man guy. He had a good look,

909
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,480
a good face. He was he's an older guy, right, yep.

910
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,840
And they really wanted him for the part and had

911
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,440
essentially told him, Hey, we really want you for this part,

912
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,480
sent him the script said get ready, we're coming, and

913
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:36,320
then they made him wait and they made him wait

914
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,079
and they made him wait, and then like literally called

915
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:40,920
him last minute and said hey, we need you to

916
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,079
be here at nine o'clock in the morning. And he's like, what, right, what?

917
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,679
And so he was furious. He was He was like,

918
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,119
I've you know, turned down parts, I have you know,

919
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,480
been over backwards for this, and you guys are screwing

920
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,079
me around. And he was talking to his wife about

921
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:01,239
his frustration and she was like, you should you because

922
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,159
if this guy's supposed to be the villain that he is,

923
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,039
it'll be great for you to use your anger at

924
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,639
the situation. And so that's exactly what he did.

925
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 2: He does an amazing job in this. I'm intimidated by him,

926
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,000
but yet he's good at teaching what he believes.

927
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard him. I heard him in an interview

928
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:24,039
talking about his perspective on this character and how to

929
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,159
make this character real. And he said to himself, this

930
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,000
is a guy who is growing up. He won his

931
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:33,559
entire life, Like in school, he was always the biggest,

932
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,840
the best looking, the strongest, the most athletic. He won

933
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,039
the sporting events, he was top of the team. He

934
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,239
did all of this stuff. And then he goes to Vietnam.

935
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,519
And when he goes to Vietnam, he can't win. He

936
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:51,360
loses his friends, he loses his identity, and he says

937
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,679
to himself at that moment, I will never lose again.

938
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If I get back to the US, I will never

939
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,440
lose again. And that's what motivates his entire character from

940
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:02,960
that moment on.

941
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: Eh, that's good.

942
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it makes him real. And they totally

943
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,079
use that in Cobra Kai, right he I mean, I've

944
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,360
you've only seen a couple episodes, but I've seen like

945
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,960
three seasons worth, and he is a guy who you

946
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:19,440
still You're still like he's the villain. But then you're like,

947
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:23,199
but I see how he got there, right, I see

948
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,719
how he became the villain, and I you know, but

949
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,079
for the grace of God, I could have been the

950
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:27,519
same guy.

951
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. He shows back up in a

952
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:33,119
movie that you have not seen hold on your seats,

953
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,559
because I hope we can cover this next summer.

954
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: Okay, he has a pretty big part in Rambo. Oh

955
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,320
right right right? Yeah? No, I yeah, yes, surprise for

956
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,760
all our listeners. I have not seen Rambo or First

957
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,679
Blood or any.

958
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: Of the other I can't believe that.

959
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Okay, I was young.

960
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to cover that next summer hopefully. I'm

961
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,239
thinking Rambo versus Commando for sure. Still owner Schwarzenegger at

962
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,320
their eighties prime yep, Okay, I got one more for you. Okay,

963
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,159
So Randy Hyler plays his mom, Lucille. She plays Lucille

964
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,920
LaRusso they looked at Valerie Harper.

965
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yeah, Valerie from Valerie.

966
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Valerie from the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

967
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so Redo RDA right, yeah yeah, Roda.

968
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Speaker 2: Here's another thing I wanted to mention real quick on

969
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,280
the filming of the Karate Kid. I thought I found

970
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,440
this fascinating. They filmed this from October thirty one of

971
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:33,760
nineteen eighty three, Yeah to December sixteenth of eighty three. Okay,

972
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,119
so they not only shot this in like sequence, but

973
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:42,239
it also fit perfectly like in the timeline of the movie.

974
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, because it starts off in New

975
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,199
Jersey September yep and ends in the fight, which is

976
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:48,719
in December.

977
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,679
Speaker 2: The karate tournament's December nineteenth.

978
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: Perfect. Okay, I go before we leave the cast, I

979
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,920
got one. I got one lady that I got to

980
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,199
ask you if you noticed. Oh, okay, okay. Remember when

981
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,800
they first get to the apartments and they walk in

982
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,920
and there's the lady with the dog and she's like,

983
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,239
you guys are from Jersey, right. He's like, how'd you know?

984
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,519
He's like, I could smell my kind and she gives

985
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,760
him the directions and he's confused. Do you recognize her?

986
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
You know she is? No, it's the grandma off of

987
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Happy Gilmore, the one who's losing her house that he

988
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:17,559
has to go win the golf tournament to save her house.

989
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,840
That's her. That's Francis Bay. She's in a billion things

990
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,079
as the kind of funny little old lady and this

991
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,280
was you know, this was one of those shows. She's

992
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,280
the funny little old lady with the dog and karate

993
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,320
kid too. Wow. Wow. Francis Bay born nineteen nineteen died

994
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,519
twenty eleven at the Tender age of ninety two years old. Okay,

995
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,159
we've gone on way too long here, guys. Come back

996
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,280
for part two, where we are going to talk about production,

997
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,760
we're going to talk about some of the incredible songs

998
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,639
from this, and we're going to give you our final

999
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,679
judgment on which is the better karate movie of the eighties,

1000
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Karate Kid or The Last Tracon.

1001
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: Thank guys,