WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:17.519 Ah well that m H. 2 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:37.320 Trigger Warner. This podcast may include explicit content that will 3 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:39.439 take you out of your comfort zone and make you 4 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:40.479 question reality. 5 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.840 Listener's discretion is advised. 6 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:53.520 Don't you fuck me? 7 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:57.159 I fuck me? 8 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:00.679 Fuck are. 9 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.760 Howdy folks, your host double jback here coming at you 10 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.319 with another Fridays And I saw their commentary already in 11 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.280 the chats. We got a real barn burner here on 12 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.519 deck for ead in old night talking some nineteen seventies 13 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.439 games show serial killers, that is, serial killers who had 14 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.200 got on game shows. So thanks again for joining us 15 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:24.920 here tonight for a Friday's get a little GCD folks 16 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:28.359 of the airwebs. Once again, JJ Vance here host of 17 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:33.799 Operation GCD and not the vice president, And without any 18 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.280 further ado, let's go ahead and welcome our guest tonight, 19 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.799 Julia the Cosmic Peach Cosmic Peach Podcast. Welcome back to 20 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.159 Operation GCD for your very first time. 21 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.040 Thanks for having me for the very first time. JJ. 22 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.959 I'm actually really excited about this when I've been looking 23 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.599 forward to it for a couple of weeks now and 24 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.959 it's it my top the OJ episode. I don't know. 25 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:00.760 We got a lot to this, guests here. 26 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:03.040 That'll be tough to do, ma'am. That'll be tough to do. 27 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.159 And we kind of, if I'm mad, we kind of 28 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.840 piggybacked this episode. Our discussion we played here tonight was 29 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.960 kind of all our last conversation on serial Killers of 30 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.280 the anal digging variety, the government cheese and you will. 31 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:21.240 Yeah, government cheese. Actually, I guess, well, do you want 32 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.240 to tell the listeners a little bit about what we're 33 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.560 going to talk about before I get to going, because 34 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.599 I have something I want to reveal to you. 35 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:30.840 Well, why don't you go ahead and plug some of 36 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.159 your stuff your show, please, ma'am. And you can go 37 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.479 ahead and do the unveiling of what you got, but 38 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.840 then we'll get on the brieving folks here on government cheese. 39 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:45.719 Yeah. So I host a Cosmic Peach podcast. It's available 40 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.560 wherever you listen to podcasts, and I do have Patreon 41 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.639 as well, and yeah, just working on a lot of 42 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:57.159 cool stuff. I really enjoyed talking to JJ about government cheese. 43 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:01.840 Those are some of the topics I like to cover 44 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:08.960 program Serial Killers, and that's how I discovered government cheese, 45 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.400 but also the one that we're talking about tonight and 46 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:16.080 the big reveal is. I have also given him a moniker. 47 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:24.840 It's a cosmic peach moniker. And Rodney al Calla, he's 48 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.000 a Mexican American and he went by the alias of 49 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:34.759 John Berger. So his cosmic peach moniker is the Bell Beefer. 50 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.479 Nice, okay, the Bell Beefer? 51 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:39.719 Mm hmm. 52 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.199 You ever had one of those? From Taco Bell. 53 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.159 I've heard of these things. I tend to not frequent 54 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:47.599 to many establishments such as that. 55 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.080 I feel like it really fits him. He's the worst 56 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.840 type of Mexican food you can have. And we'll get 57 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.000 into his his atrocities later on in the show. But yes, 58 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.400 we got government cheese, and tonight we're gonna be talking 59 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:09.360 about the Bell Beefer, also known as the Dating Game Killer. 60 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.280 And I'm glad you brought that part up because I 61 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.039 do want to get into his al kala of the 62 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.960 Bell Beefer, his aspects of his you know, chronology of 63 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.120 events where he's up in New Hampshire working at a 64 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:18.720 summer camp. 65 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:25.319 Yes, that, to me, among other things, has stood out 66 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:27.360 to be alarming. 67 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.720 Uh kidding, You ain't kidding a lot. 68 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:37.800 Like Jeffrey Dahmer ted Bundy. I don't maybe John Wayne 69 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:42.279 Gacy a little bit and government cheese. This guy kept 70 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.319 getting busted and getting out, which is something else that 71 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:47.040 I feel like. 72 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.879 That's the going trend, right, that's the going trend, right. 73 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:56.199 Yeah, I mean if you see that, you automatically have 74 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.120 to wonder, like what is really. 75 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:03.279 You might be under a tech. 76 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:06.360 My darkn asshole. 77 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.160 So no, that's a good point. And I've been doing 78 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.360 a lot of these same kind of comparisons, mapping these 79 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.279 guys out their activities, seeing what they've been doing in 80 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.879 their lives. So, speaking of Ed Edwards, the other guy 81 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.920 we're talking about, he got on two game shows, two 82 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.120 game shows, and I still can't find his episode from 83 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.040 what's the line and what's my line? But we'll get 84 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.480 into some of those details. But speaking of Ed, you know, 85 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.680 he's a Satanist ray. He's a prolific serial killer. That 86 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.439 seems to be another common trend here amongst these folks, right, 87 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.199 another common trend. And one of these folks that I 88 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.240 was discussing just very recently that this seems very prolific. 89 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.759 There's just a lot of patterns between these folks. Thomas 90 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:52.240 Eugene Creech in Idaho. He basically did everything Ed did 91 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.680 ten years after Ed in Idaho, married a seventeen year 92 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.160 old in Idaho falls went on a Bonnie and Clyde 93 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.279 robbery spree and murder spree with that seventeen year old 94 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.439 wife right now. Ed did that by having he's got 95 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.879 two different marriage license to that seventeen year old nineteen 96 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:09.480 fifty six, one under the name Ed Edwards and the 97 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:13.279 other one under the name James Garfield Langley. And I 98 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.879 would argue these unintelligent agencies that we call them, they 99 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.519 need to come up with a better name. Those boys. 100 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.839 It's the CIA because James Garfield like the president and 101 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.399 Langley like their headquarters. I mean, how else does this 102 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:28.079 man have two marriage licenses on the same day with 103 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.319 the same judge and the same stamps and everything else 104 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.360 to the same woman under two different personalities and identities. 105 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.759 He admits he gets that in nineteen fifty five in 106 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:40.399 Key West, where he is there with at the same 107 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.360 time as the CIA and Castro plot and he overthrow 108 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:47.040 the Batista government in Cuba, and then he gets arrested 109 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.680 for murder in November of nineteen sixty up there in Portland, Oregon, 110 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:54.920 under the name James Garfield Langley. He shows up to 111 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.439 and we're talking mind control stuff as well with this guy, right, 112 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.120 he shows up to a Lover's Lane murder scene the 113 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.519 next day and he's got a bolt wounded, his arm 114 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.199 bleeding shit, and there's a bolt hole in the windshield. 115 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:08.560 So they are were he one of those ones that, 116 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:12.879 like the police apprehend him for like other things, maybe 117 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:17.800 even not murder related, And he just keeps getting let 118 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.240 back out like one of those kind of guys. 119 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.600 Sure that happens sometimes, but in this instance, when we're 120 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.839 talking about folks, you can just get away. This time 121 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.439 in Portland, he gets arrested under James Garfield Langley. He 122 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.879 already served a stent in prison under the name Ed Edwards. 123 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.519 How's he getting the other identity back? I don't know. 124 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.519 But he escapes the Portland jail that night and goes 125 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.480 on the run for the next fourteen months as the 126 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.439 number one most wanted man in America on the FBI's list. Now, 127 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.839 Thomas Eugene Creech had the same ability to escape things 128 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:46.399 all the time. 129 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:54.720 The Bell Beefer actually was on the FBI's most wanted 130 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:59.959 list as well, and somebody recognized him and turned him in. 131 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.439 But it's it's kind of like one of those things. 132 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:09.000 He has an alias, right, he goes by Yeah, he 133 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.319 goes by John Berger, and he goes by Rodney Alcala, 134 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.319 and he moves around a lot. So it's kind of 135 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.319 hard to uh, oh God, here we go. 136 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.879 All of these folks are very prolific. They travel everywhere. 137 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:27.120 Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, is like 138 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:32.320 Randy Craft and Ted Bundy and this guy Bell Bee 139 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:36.480 for it's like there, their bodies are all over the place. 140 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:42.320 They're spread it out. It's it's Portland, Seattle, New Hampshire, 141 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:47.559 New York, all these places in California, and it's like 142 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:53.639 that they're uh, they're everywhere and nowhere at the same time, 143 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:55.639 for sure. 144 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:57.919 And much like this case out of Canada, the Jonah's 145 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.720 commenting on there, the Picton case and the tom foolery 146 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.799 around that the authorities never really seemed to care. 147 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:16.559 So or they they purposely turn a blind eye to 148 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:22.159 what these guys are doing. I mean, obviously the Jeffrey Dahmer, 149 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.720 the one kid that got returned back to his apartment. 150 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:29.720 Everybody knows about that one, but with government cheese. He 151 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:35.679 actually he had two guys in his car. He pushed 152 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.720 one of the guys out decapitated the other guy. They 153 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:42.480 brought him in for questioning. There was no doubt that 154 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:46.799 he had done it. In the district attorney let him 155 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:51.120 back out with almost no questions asked. I mean these 156 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.240 guys literally, either they turn a blind eye or there's 157 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.000 orders given from on high somewhere to just let him loose. 158 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:06.639 And they go years in years without ever being detected. 159 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:14.799 How about forty, that's wild forty They let this serial killer. Yeah, 160 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.919 they let the serial killer out on Montana on parole, 161 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.440 not the first time they did that with a serial 162 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:23.720 killer up there. And then they didn't track him. He disappeared, 163 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.399 He broke parole, and he disappeared for the next forty years. 164 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.080 A private detective hired by one of his victims' families 165 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.399 is the one who found him as a minister in 166 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.720 Arizona and then brought his that they brought his ass 167 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:35.399 back to Montana. 168 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.559 But this was Yesther. Oh my god, that's like bt K. 169 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.320 Yeah, And this was this was ed Edward's old eddie 170 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.799 boy there. This was his arch nemesis. Is it Satanist 171 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:49.840 arch nemesis? So this dude was an ardent Satanist? What's 172 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:54.799 his name, Frank Dryman, Frank Trying Frank Dryman. 173 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.559 Yeah, well I haven't even ever heard of this fucking guy. 174 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:01.440 I learned in the sixties. 175 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:05.720 He murdered in the late fifties and then was in 176 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.639 prison with Ed and Red Lodge maximum security prison in 177 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.399 Montana for a few years. They were trying to beef 178 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:14.240 to be the biggest dog in town. They're in the 179 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:18.279 prison the biggest, toughest, most murderous Satanist guy. Right, This 180 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.440 is document in the prison file. So when they find 181 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.440 Frank Dryman in twenty ten, just again a PI hired 182 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.919 by one of the victim's families. So then he gets 183 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.879 dragged back up to Montana because he's been skip parole 184 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.639 for thirty eight years. The guy who's working on the 185 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.039 parole board as the investigator at the state prison, Deer Lodge, Right, 186 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.840 I said Red Lodge, deer Lodge State Prison is John Cameron, 187 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.559 the retired Great Falls police detective who did the seminal 188 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.840 study on Ed Edwards. So he already knew Frank Dryman's name, 189 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:46.840 and suddenly Frank Dryman shows up on his lap. He's 190 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.440 got access to the prison records, he's got access to 191 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:51.320 Frank Drymon, he writes us in his book about it. 192 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.360 There's two books about it. Him and Dryman were competing 193 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:55.639 Satanists and etc. Etc. 194 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:01.639 So how so, okay, have you watched or are you 195 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.879 into the Dexter series. 196 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.480 Sometimes the police are just a little retarded, right, folks 197 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.519 play into that, I think, right, they take advantage of it. 198 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:16.360 Now I'm familiar with Dexter. I I don't like violence 199 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.360 and murder, and despite them, as much as I talk 200 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.639 about it, I don't watch a lot of it. And 201 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.000 I hate I hate I hate combat, despite serving five 202 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.039 years in the Middle East in combat. So these are 203 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.840 just the things that I do. It's a kind of 204 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.399 a paradox in my life. But I don't really care 205 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:32.120 for murder, and I certainly don't care for the fiction. 206 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.440 I'm I'm a your typical average white female and I 207 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.759 watch all the shows and I love Dexter. Obviously, he's 208 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:44.360 like a vigilante. He just kills bad guys, So I 209 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.480 guess you can justify it that way. But sure, in 210 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.919 this newest season, for anyone in the comments who is 211 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.480 watching this, now that you'll know what I'm talking about, 212 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.519 it's like Program to Kill. There's a guy who collects 213 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.799 serial killers, any brings them all together and he has 214 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.320 dinners for him so they can like compare notes and 215 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.840 shit and become friends and shit and think. 216 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.240 This is very prevalent. So that's interesting. It's coming up 217 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.120 in media right now. It's getting more prevalent, right. 218 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.279 When you see guys like, Okay, you know how we 219 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.279 talked about in the Government Cheese episode, how William Bonnan, 220 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:25.919 Randy Kraft, and Patrick Kearney were all perpetrating similar crimes 221 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:31.120 in and around the same area at the same time frame. 222 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.000 So it's like, how could they know about each other? Right, 223 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.000 It's like they have to know about each other. They're 224 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.600 like copycatting each other almost. It's like, of course they 225 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.120 they probably went to the same program to kill academy 226 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:46.200 or some shit like that. 227 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.519 Well that I'm glad you're bringing that up, because that's 228 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.440 what I'm trying to document in all these six degrees 229 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.840 games to play here in Operation GC, these all these 230 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.399 folks know each other. So Richard Ramirez gets on one 231 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.799 one with Anton Levy before his murder spree in the eighties, 232 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:02.399 Thomas Creech gets eight one on one before his murder 233 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.320 springs sixty nine or seventy one there in Idaho. Again, 234 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.519 ten years after Ed did the same stuff in Idaho 235 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.399 from the same town, he married a seventeen year old 236 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.919 ad to Satanist Thomas Creech. Again is a weird connection 237 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.320 because he's actually from Cincinnati and served time in Chilicothee Reformatory, 238 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.320 the same place. I think that both Ed and Charles 239 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.879 Manson when they served there together in fifty two and 240 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.639 fifty three, when they were young men twenty and I 241 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.600 think eighteen. I think that's when they got recruited of 242 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:31.840 the CIA chaos programs. 243 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.519 Yeah, one hundred. Look at this guy, I mean literally 244 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.720 fugitive found running chapel. That's what That's one of the 245 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.399 other terrifying things about this is how these guys end 246 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:50.600 up just blending right in to regular society, just like BTK. 247 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.240 Wasn't he like head of the fucking boy Scout troop 248 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.120 and deacon at his church and you know whatever else? 249 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.960 No one, no one ever had an nasty or bad 250 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:02.919 or negative thing to say about Ed Edwards. 251 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:05.279 Isn't that something? 252 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:11.080 They're diabolical theirs? Their psychopaths. Ed got ed got diagnosed. 253 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.200 Something though, Let me ask you something, JJ, Is it 254 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:18.879 because they're diabolical or is it because they have like 255 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:23.720 a kill switch? Are they realities in the same body? 256 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:28.440 Are they disassociative personality? Maybe they don't even remember their 257 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.519 crimes sometimes, Like, what are your thoughts on that? 258 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.600 I think it's not mutually exclusive, ma'am. In fact, have 259 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:44.559 you met buffalo Jared Rivisa. He's a current mind controled 260 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.759 assassin went on a multi state you know, stabbing spree. 261 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:49.480 Before that, he wanted to stab me and wear my 262 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:53.519 skin is a human coat. Being my pr rep. The 263 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.080 guy he murdered to start that spree hired him as 264 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:59.279 his pr rep. Now he sets allegedly in a mental 265 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:05.279 institution in Bridgewater, Massachusetts, the same mental institution that released 266 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:10.919 that psychopathic kid dedling, cannibalistic, comicidal serial killer Nathaniel bar 267 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.279 Jonah out of that place, and he immediately tried to kill, 268 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.759 rape and eat and murder another you know, young boy, 269 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.879 and then they unleashed him on monk. They didn't put 270 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.120 in prison for that. He got probation four weeks after 271 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.240 he's let out for doing the same thing that raping, 272 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.320 attempting to murder, and then you know, you like to 273 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:29.960 jump on the kids he's a big fat guy. Just 274 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.000 he sits on him. It was really weird tactic, but 275 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.600 that's what he did everybody. So he got caught doing 276 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.840 that again, immediately gotter, got out. Folks saw it, intervened, 277 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.960 they put them on probation. Then they shive him the 278 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:43.000 Great Falls, Montana, which has a very similar footprint to mine, 279 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:44.879 not in North Dakota, relative to the Son of Sam 280 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.159 narratives and all this cold activity. But it is strange. Again, 281 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.480 he gets involved in the evangelical movement up there. It's 282 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.559 very interesting. His parents work. His father works at the 283 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.840 Air Force base. That's why he goes up there. Come on, 284 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.120 he goes on to murder a lot of folks, and 285 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:02.559 the prosecutor's office played a lot of games with the warrants. 286 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.720 Detective John Cameron, the man who wrote the seminal study 287 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.119 on Ed Edwards there and the only man who's brought 288 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:11.559 them to my attention. This Frank Ryman character is the 289 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.480 guy who brought Nathaniel bar Jones of the Justice That's 290 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.880 the Syraco face to face with Julia, and it was 291 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:19.599 pure evil. 292 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.680 Did you get a vibe though, did you get like 293 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.039 a creepy feeling off this guy or is it Like 294 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.680 I'm saying, like, was there two people in one body, 295 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:33.039 like one of them functions in society, never fucking you know, 296 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.000 suspected him of anything and the other ones a kid diddling, 297 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.279 cannibalistic serial killer. I mean, like, what was it? What 298 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:41.160 was the vibe? 299 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:44.160 Now, this dude's got top cover. You know, he's serving 300 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:48.039 up human meat burgers at church barbecues. The eyewitness statements 301 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:50.160 for that nineteen ninety six crime that he eventually got 302 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.000 put in prison for the kidnapping, murder of Zachary Ramsey 303 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:56.200 and eating of Zachary Ramsey. He's one who fed him 304 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.200 at the church barbecue in ninety six. All the eyewitness 305 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.359 reports came up Nathaniel bar Jona, right, he was last 306 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:04.839 seeing in an alleyway with a ten year old and 307 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:05.519 then you know. 308 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.759 And then they creepy vibe from the guy I did. 309 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.039 I did. That's what I'm saying. I think they come 310 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:13.200 in different varieties. This is the kind of variety that 311 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:15.519 comes with a lot of more top cover than Ed has. 312 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.839 Right Now, Ed's very diabolical because we'll see, we can 313 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.039 even watch clip here from his performance he gave on 314 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.759 to tell the truth but he he is a very 315 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.599 diabolical man and much like we see with Rodney Okaya 316 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.559 on The Dating Game, he's smirking folks while he's on TV, 317 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:30.759 and Ed's doing the same thing. 318 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.680 So fucking crazy. You got to click for. 319 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:37.559 Us, Yeah, for sure. But I do think there is 320 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:39.279 an aspect of that. So how else do you get 321 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:44.359 Ed Edwards or doctor psychiatrist, doctor James Garfield Langley, those 322 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.839 are the credentials he would carry around. He Ed openly 323 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.599 states his book that he worked for the CIA. I 324 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:50.160 believe him. 325 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.599 I believe it one hundred questions. 326 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:58.079 Well, I mean, we know his friend Charles did, right, 327 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:00.799 we know they're in the same place. I'm saying, there's 328 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.920 a lot of things that we started to start drawing 329 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.240 some conclusions on there. But with Ed, how else do 330 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:07.440 you get him to show up to the scene of 331 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.720 a lover's lane murder that he committed right so without 332 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.839 with a bolt hole on his arm? Now, I think 333 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:15.240 this is a great example of what you're saying. So 334 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.720 I think Ed kills on his programmed missions, but also 335 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:21.640 does his his thing as he likes to put it right, 336 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.359 and he he murders lovers lane folks. That's what he 337 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.039 that's what he went to prison for. That's what he's 338 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.720 notorious for. It's what he got busted for. Forensic evidence 339 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:32.839 supporting such. Right, And again that's what happened in Portland 340 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:34.759 where he showed up to the scene of one. So 341 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.240 he escapes from prison that night and then the next day, 342 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:39.920 that same date that he escapes every night, and that 343 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.160 it's like November twenty seventh, twenty sixth is the night 344 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:45.240 of they arrest him in the morning of the twenty seventh. 345 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.799 He escapes the twenty seventh, and a naval officer is 346 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.920 murdered in nearby a story at Oregon on that same day. 347 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.920 So I think that's a great example of what Ed does. 348 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:55.720 So he had to get out of prison because he 349 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.960 was on a mission to murder someone in a hit. Right, 350 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:01.160 But he was doing this thing the night before, and 351 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:03.920 you know, due to the you know, fucked up nature 352 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:05.519 of his mind control, I think he showed back up 353 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.319 with the scene bleeding with a bullet hole in his arm. 354 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:13.640 Right, that's so fucking wild. Right, So did I ask 355 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.319 you this on the last episode, But are you thinking 356 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.519 that he might have something to do with the Zodiac stuff? 357 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:22.319 Yeah, we can get into that some. I mean, this 358 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:25.440 is very prolific. I saw Whitey Bulger, he served, he 359 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:32.319 was in prison with Whitey Bulger in Leavenworth. Ed was interesting, right, 360 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:33.519 But I have a clip from that here. 361 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.880 The lover's lane thing is really specific. 362 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:39.960 Yeah, and he's known for it. So what he got 363 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:42.079 busted for in two thousand and nine. And folks can 364 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.200 the interwebs can go check out my Sundays I did 365 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.799 last week. I'm doing a case study every few weeks 366 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.240 on my Sunday's program here in Operation GCD and Operation 367 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.359 GCD Patreon, where I'm doing a case study on Ed Edwards, right, 368 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.759 unpacking all of these things based upon the study of 369 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.119 John Cameron and trying to move that forward. In fact, 370 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.640 I'm in community with John Cameron, hopefully will come on 371 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.799 the show, but he hasn't done an interview in seven years. 372 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.000 And I think there's reasons why. I don't know those reasons. 373 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:09.799 But so Ed gets busted. His daughter watches a true 374 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.480 crime show, not a true crime show, I'm sorry, a 375 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:16.799 local news report on a cold case murder and she says, 376 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:20.480 oh shit, we lived in that town. I know that field. 377 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.359 My father took me to that field. We left the 378 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.200 next day, so she calls the police department tells him 379 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.400 that so they this is Wisconsin. They travel a few 380 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.319 hours south to Louisville, Kentucky. Asked Ed for his his 381 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.200 DNA and he says no. So they come back later 382 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.240 with a warrant and he gives us DNA. It turns 383 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.440 out like the Zodiac writes in his letters that the 384 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:43.920 Zodiac gets his rocks off strangling young woman. Well Ed 385 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.319 got his rocks off strangling this young woman. There was 386 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:49.359 no sexual penetration. That was never Ed's style. And he 387 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.519 seems to have orgasmed threw his pants onto her jeans 388 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:57.039 and they then save that for twenty nine years. And 389 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.119 it wasn't for his daughter seeing that and then calling them. 390 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.200 You know again, I got a lot of questions around 391 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.519 these circumstances of Ed. But nonetheless, that is how he can. 392 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.559 He came to get busted in the details of the 393 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.599 guy in the Hood at Lake barri Essa, m those 394 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.599 are so those are the details of Ed. But John 395 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.400 Cameron argues in his book that Ed was simply trying 396 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.319 to frame. Because Ed frame folks for all of his crimes, right, 397 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.920 that was what he did. He planted evidence and you know, 398 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.119 informed a police on her. He was a prolific informer 399 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.400 to the FBI back to nineteen fifty one, you know, 400 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.079 informing on anti comedies. We got some of those files. 401 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.440 The FBI has restricted a lot on Ed for obvious 402 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:39.359 reasons in my opinion, But we see him giving those details. 403 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.519 But in the argument that he's trying to uh frame 404 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.920 Frank Drymond. Frank Drymond was a naval cryptologist, Frank Drymonds 405 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:50.519 from Vallejo, California. Frank Drymond's documented in that same Deer 406 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.920 Lodge prison file is running around around Deer Lodge with 407 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:57.160 the zodiac could with the circle and the cross on it. 408 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.799 It's in the file. So if Ed was trying to 409 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:02.559 frame a somebody like his Satanist competition from that same 410 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.160 file right in that Dear Lodge prison back in the fifties, 411 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.119 this is a very heinous place. This is the most 412 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.400 dangerous prison in America. Right. This is after Alcatraz is 413 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:13.200 getting shut down. Everyone's getting shipped out of Alcatraz. In fact, 414 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:15.400 one of the Alcatraz guys comes there and he's the 415 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.440 leader of the prison riot. They killed a warden. I 416 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.759 think this is a stifferent story altogether. I think it 417 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:22.279 was a target hit on the warden. And I think 418 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:24.160 all these guys got themselves put in prison because the 419 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:28.079 leader of this riot, adds Buddy, says that he intentionally 420 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:29.839 got put in prison to that prison in Montana. He 421 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.759 traveled there from like Atlanta. It's ridiculous, got on a 422 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.920 bus to go to Montana to rob a store, to 423 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:36.680 get put in this prison his own state, this guy's 424 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.960 own statements. But nonetheless, this is a very dangerous place 425 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.039 and drymen and Edward, you know, top dogs in this environment. Right. 426 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.640 So this that Diamon dude. You said you never heard him. 427 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:50.119 I hadn't heard of him either, man, And he's a 428 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:51.400 very interesting character. 429 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.079 Well, he ties into the spider web, just like all 430 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.759 of them do. I mean, it's it's gotta be an 431 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.599 did thing for sure. 432 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.559 A very diabolical and murderous load there. Jenna, did you. 433 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:09.480 See the comment about Ashton Kutcher. 434 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.799 Don't forget Ashton Kutcher was killing people? Yeah, well here's 435 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:15.799 the deal. Ashton Kutcher should have been the number one 436 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.440 suspect in his ex girlfriend's murder, right, So what. 437 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.160 Are your thoughts on that? Because I was I saw 438 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:24.200 the comment pop up. And this is actually the second 439 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.559 time in like a week somebody has mentioned this to 440 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.000 me about him possibly being a murderer. Also, there's I 441 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.960 guess a Mandela effect where I grew up saying this 442 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:39.839 fucker's last name was Kutcher. Okay, Ashton Kutcher, But now 443 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:43.720 I guess it's Couture as in coach, as in vagina 444 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.039 have you how do you say it? 445 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.160 I always thought it was Coucher, but I don't. 446 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.640 Know really, I always said Ashton Kutcher. But anyways, is 447 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:54.640 he a murderer or not? 448 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.640 Well, it is interesting. So he was at the scene 449 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.079 of the crime, his claims have looked into his girlfriend's 450 00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:02.480 home that he was picking up to go I think 451 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.160 the Grammys or Emmy's or something, And you know they 452 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.920 were both. She was a young actress, he was a 453 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.680 young actor. He was already doing that seventies show. One 454 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.079 of the women that was Danny Masterson's as girlfriends in 455 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:15.880 this rape business that he got put in prison for. 456 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.400 She was dating masters In at the time, and she 457 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.640 had some interesting statements reguarding Kutcher's activity that night, calling 458 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.119 Masterson for help. So his story doesn't seem to match 459 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.920 up and he and then later they prosecute the alleged 460 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:31.079 murderer of this of this young woman in her Hollywood 461 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.720 Hills home, right, butchered right in Hollywood Hills home, bleeding 462 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.079 on the floor when Kutcher allegedly looked in, he didn't 463 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.640 see her, right do you have you know, blood to 464 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.880 death on the floor right there in the foyer, right apparently, 465 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:44.119 But he becomes a number one witness against this guy 466 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:45.680 in the state's prosecution. 467 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.400 It makes me think of, uh, you know, when Heath 468 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.119 Ledger died, how like the first person they called was 469 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.000 Mary Kate Olsen's bodyguard or some shit like that, Like, 470 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.400 why was that call that was made? 471 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.519 You and the sistern law to the then French president, 472 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.519 the same French president that murdered Godolphie with Clinton and 473 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.759 got busted for They put him in jail over there 474 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.640 for that. That was that was in law no, no, 475 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.640 for murdering Godolphie with Clinton. They put the French president 476 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.519 jail for that. That French president was the brother in 477 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.759 law of that Olsen girl, the Olsen twin. She was 478 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:28.480 married to the brother of the French president. 479 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:36.839 Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, So this false right in 480 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.559 line with the rest of our cast of character for 481 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.160 tonight showing up on TV. 482 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.960 Thank you there, Jimmy Bobby is jim Bobby. I called 483 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.839 you Jimmy Bobby, but Jimmy Bob one of those thank 484 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:48.440 you sir. 485 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.519 It's an it's a comment about the OJ bombshell. I'm 486 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.000 telling you, this one's gonna be justice prolific. 487 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:56.640 Well, I'm telling you, I get a lot of good 488 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.799 feedback from that AJ stuff, So I definitely appreciate you 489 00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.240 bringing you suggesting that show and bringing that up here. 490 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:06.680 Well. So, actually, if we want to get on the 491 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:12.119 on the Bell b for train, what do you what 492 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:13.480 do you know about him? 493 00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:13.640 Like? 494 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.839 Should I tell you about his past or should I 495 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.759 tell you about because I have I have several notes 496 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:21.200 that I was going to bring up to you, But 497 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.319 I mean, what what are your what do you know 498 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:23.880 about him? 499 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:25.920 Well, let's get into the Bell b for here in 500 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.079 a minute. We'll do him before we do ed because 501 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.839 that's going to be interesting talking about Chuck Bears as well. 502 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:32.799 But i'd like to get your thoughts on this image 503 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.240 I came across today on the interwebs and it seems 504 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.920 to be interesting. So when we talk about the lackluster 505 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.240 performance of all of these authority matters and whatnot, and 506 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.160 they don't pay any attention to these killers and let 507 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.759 them go and everything else like that. Well, you know, 508 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.400 I like to I often joke here at Operation GCD 509 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.839 that most of our you know, the government's budget, you know, 510 00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.440 from the government to Hollywood, a large portion of the 511 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.200 budget line items go to cocaine and hookers. Right, That's 512 00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:57.559 what I like to joke about at least, And it 513 00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.279 seems to indicate that. And this, h this is your 514 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.240 photograph right here, seems to encapsulate my point pretty well. 515 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.039 This is a great This is a great representation of 516 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.519 cocaine and hookers. We got jet, we got good old 517 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:17.480 still alive, Jeff Epp, the Reverend, James Brown, and the don. 518 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.200 My god, look at this. 519 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.279 A lot of cocaine and hookers in this photo. 520 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.640 What a trip. 521 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.799 I've never seen James Brown. He's all coked out on 522 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.720 an interview and like you know, news or whatever, and 523 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.519 he's just he's just wigging out. You ever seen that? 524 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.319 I never saw. 525 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.880 Oh my god, I gotta find that for you real quick. 526 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.519 Oh my gosh. 527 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.559 Oh he's fantastic. Quite a character that James Brown. 528 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.880 You think Donald Trump was wearing a hair piece even 529 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.680 back then? Look at this guy. 530 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.880 You know, this is I think this picture was around 531 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.319 eighty I thought it was around eighty seven. But that 532 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.880 doesn't make sense to me because I don't I don't know. 533 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.759 I gotta still find a validity of this photo where 534 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.480 it came from, because the age groups to some of 535 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.880 these folks in the timeframe in which I, you know, 536 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.200 I predicted this was at look based upon how these 537 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.200 folks look. It doesn't make a lot of sense to 538 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.559 me that he knows Epstein supposedly. I don't know, I 539 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:17.440 got I don't know. I gotta look more into the photo. 540 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.400 But yeah, I mean, if you look at Donald Trump 541 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.279 in like nineteen eighty when he goes to Roy Cones 542 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.599 birthday party that year, this is the year after he 543 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.200 dresses like y you know. 544 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.440 I was gonna ask, is this around the same timeframe? 545 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.039 This is? This is the this is a birthday party. 546 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.680 Two years later, two years later, he's walking into this 547 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.359 hotel and they get a picture of him. I'll see 548 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.680 what I can find it. But his hair looks super 549 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.799 super funky in that photo, like he's got a wig 550 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:42.200 on there. 551 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:50.200 I just I don't know these guys. What do you 552 00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.359 think about him not wanting to release the list now 553 00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.279 all of a sudden it's because of this shit, right. 554 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.799 I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, no idea. What the fuck's 555 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:05.160 going on anymore? Really, I think all these people are 556 00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.039 just fucking scum bags. To be quite honest with you, 557 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.799 I mean I don't know why not right, Like I 558 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.359 understand it, Like I like a lot of what he 559 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.920 you know, obviously, I was to say who would be 560 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.640 better Trump or any of these other opponents, Clinton and Biden, 561 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.519 Obama whatever, Bush. Obviously Trump has been doing. I agree 562 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.079 with more of his policies, you know, you know, more 563 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.039 of America First kind of policies. But if that's just 564 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.440 all a ruse, then he's just a bigger dick bager 565 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.200 than the rest of them. 566 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.400 I think it's all theater too, I mean, honestly, I do. 567 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:40.640 I think it's all just actors playing roles every even Epstein. 568 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:46.839 I mean it's like, did he really, I mean, does 569 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.519 he exist in the capacity that we think he does? 570 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.599 Or is he like just a showman that they've pinned 571 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:53.759 a bunch of this ship on. 572 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.799 Yeah? Really, that's a good and that's a good point. 573 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.519 I think he's a maam. He's a cardboard cut out 574 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.519 of a human being, right right. 575 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.559 It's like, is it really what we interpreted to be, 576 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.920 because especially when I see pictures like that, it's like, 577 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.279 these are all just actors, this is all just a show. 578 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:16.319 Well, Donald Trump is an actor. He's the number one 579 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:25.200 reality TV in the world. That happened. So let's look 580 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.759 at James Brown real quick when he's doing a lot 581 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.880 of cocaine and going on TV about it. Yeah, well, 582 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:38.680 I don't love Why is it not playing? 583 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.319 And we welcome you, James Brown? How did all of 584 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.160 this trouble begin? 585 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:53.039 Lit bit man, America? Is nothing wrong, nothing wrong at all. 586 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.759 You're not in any difficulties, I'll think. But you're out 587 00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:01.240 on bond, no have all the charge has been dropped. 588 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:01.599 Yeah? 589 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.759 I love how you out on lover out of love? 590 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:08.519 Which is it? 591 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.799 I don't he's. 592 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.119 Coked out huh, oh my god. And he's just cheesing 593 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:15.880 it up too. 594 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.160 It's the most it's the most disconnected interview in the world. 595 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.279 Like there's it's three minutes of that. It doesn't make 596 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.799 any sense. He never comes out with like a reasonable statement. 597 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.119 It's just like, you know, get on the scene with 598 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.680 sex machine. You know, that's what the Addie Murphy bit was, 599 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.559 you know on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, too hot for 600 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:33.039 the hot tub. 601 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.319 That's why I say that all of this is just 602 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:42.880 like theater stuff. I mean, even even serial killers ending 603 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.480 up on game shows. It's just all part of They're 604 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:54.480 all you know. It's like, how does some prolific serial 605 00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.880 killer who has a violent arrest record you ain't getting 606 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.640 up on one of the most popular TV shows for 607 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:05.400 the decade. 608 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.039 Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because I would argue, 609 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.440 mam in a more you know, strategic or meta sense 610 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.319 or analysis, that we live in a horror show of 611 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:18.160 a horror side show of smoking mirrors. Right. And on 612 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.680 that note, well, you've gave a great introduction to my 613 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.039 favorite game here on Operation GCD Fridays. Who is your 614 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.720 daddy and what does he do? 615 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.799 You tell me? Who is your daddy and what does 616 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:47.119 he do? 617 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.039 Who's that man's daddy running Pharaoh? Is it Woody Allen 618 00:33:56.279 --> 00:34:00.920 or is it Frank SINATRAO? 619 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:01.960 Let me see it again? 620 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:04.880 Oh, I got some pictures. I just want to play 621 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.799 that bit. I like the the Arnold Schwarzenegger. Bit, So 622 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.519 this is allegedly the father, right, the biological father, as 623 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.039 we're told, the husband of Mia Pharaoh, right, the second 624 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.480 husband of Mia Pharaoh, because their first husband when she 625 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.199 was a Satanist and he was a Satanist at least 626 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.159 back in the sixties, it seems during Rosemary's baby was 627 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.599 Frank Sinatra. Now he claims that he broke off with 628 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.320 her over these Satanist kind of matters, but he's the 629 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.679 whole rat pack surrounded by Satanists, right, so believe that. Right, 630 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.639 So we're told this is his father, right. I think 631 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.159 he's born around nineteen eighty two or three or something, 632 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.239 so many years later. But Frank and Mia they had 633 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.760 a you know, they had not they seem to have 634 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.360 been still at least friends. And then what he's out 635 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.400 there Mary leaving Mia Pharaoh and marrying the you know, 636 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:51.719 I've gotten to so many disputes with these folks over 637 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.920 the interwebs over these disgusting matters. Over the years, he's 638 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.480 got quite a you know, following of folks. If you 639 00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.599 posted on twixter, you know, commenting that he had married 640 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.480 as a da daughter and they're like, oh, he didn't 641 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.719 technically adopt her. I'm like you said, Fox, She's he's 642 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.280 sitting with her it as like a ten year old 643 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.599 at a basketball game. And he's sitting there as like 644 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:08.920 a fourty year old at a basketbla and the I 645 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:10.599 don't care if they did the legal paper or not. 646 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.559 He's living in the home with her as her father figure, 647 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.079 with Mia Pharaoh, who is the legal mother of that child, 648 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.440 and then he runs off and marries that lady. Say, 649 00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.320 there's just a lot of weird sexual stuff I think 650 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.960 going there. But so that's supposedly his dad. But I mean, 651 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.159 you look at them blue eyes, and I think this 652 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.920 picture with old mister blue Eyes, Mia Pharaoh's first husband, 653 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.400 Frank Sinatra, I think is a better immate. So this 654 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.519 picture comes from this article where folks will he wrote 655 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:41.639 this article will tell you this is a preposterous conspiracy theory. Right, 656 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:49.519 Frank Sinatra did not secretly father Ronan Pharaoh, despite absurd speculation. Friend, 657 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.800 it insists. So the picture they'll give you is this picture. 658 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.239 And notice how they do a black and white or Frank, 659 00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.400 because if they show you old Frank and his Frankie 660 00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.960 blue eyes, You're gonna be like, holy shit, that's running 661 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:01.000 Arrow's dad. 662 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.760 Oh, come on, the guy, the guy looks just like him. 663 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.199 Yeah. So when I say we live in this manufactured 664 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.800 reality of a horror side show of smoking mirrors, we're 665 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.280 given Ronan Pharaoh as the leader of the Me too movement, 666 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.840 the person they thought. He's the one running the charge 667 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.159 in the media right investigating it, and the person they 668 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.039 he's the one that uncovers the whole. Rose mc gowan 669 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.360 scanned them with Weinstein and that was black ops. Yeah, 670 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.559 he's the journalist behind all that. That's who was credited 671 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.880 for right now. Rose McGowan of course, has her own 672 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.559 issues with Satanism that the Children of God. She was 673 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.400 part of the s So nonetheless, my point being there 674 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.920 is we're told that man's father is Woody Allen. Get 675 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.000 the fuck out of here. This dude's like blue eyes, 676 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.440 blonde hair. Woody Allen's like five foot four, Jewish man 677 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.360 brown here. You know what I mean, No blue eyes, 678 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.039 you know what I mean. None of these things seem seems. 679 00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:57.840 Like nose too. 680 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:03.800 My god, Right, yeah, let's watch that. 681 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.360 You tell me who is your daddy and what does 682 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:08.800 he do? 683 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.360 They have the same nose. In my opinion, they have 684 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.199 the same nose, the same smile, and the same the 685 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:36.199 same eyes, even. 686 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.079 The color the hairline too. 687 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.840 Right, So we're giving this guy he's going to solve 688 00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:43.480 all the meat to you problems. It's Weinstein, it's rosemac gollan. 689 00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.760 That's the false narrative. It's laid out there, so folks 690 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.679 believe everything was taken care of, right. 691 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:48.559 Mm hmmm. 692 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.239 So we see that across the spectrum of all activities 693 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.280 up and packing these kind of matters relative to that 694 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.360 magic show around the Satanic panic and folks like Muppet, 695 00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.320 mikey Akino and Gang there and his U SIPs the 696 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.400 mind worth he's running on folks, He's aren't the Satanist 697 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.199 you're looking for, right, He's you know, he's a big 698 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.000 Star Wars fan fiction guy. So he likes to say, 699 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.199 these aren't the Satanists you're looking for. I thinks he's 700 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.760 doing a Jedi mind trick. Well. 701 00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.679 And if you look at a picture of Mia Pharaoh, 702 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.079 like a young picture of her, and then you put 703 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:22.440 it with Frank Sinatra, that's their kid. I mean he 704 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.400 looks like a fifty to fifty split of Frank Sinatra 705 00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.840 and young Mia Pharaoh. 706 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.760 Yeah, I totally agree. I know, Mia Pharaoh's got blue wise, 707 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.519 but I'm just saying, like he's got so much more 708 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.000 of Sinatra going to there, right. 709 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.760 No, yeah, That's what I'm saying is like me has 710 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.320 got like a real look about her too, really unique 711 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.480 look about her too. But but that guy, that kid 712 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.280 is definitely not fothered by a big nosed Jewish guy. 713 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.400 Yeah right with brown eyes. 714 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.559 No way, not happened. Not happening. You know, I knew 715 00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:59.440 some folks one time. They were a Jewish couple and 716 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.840 not nothing gainst Jewish couples. I'm just saying, they had 717 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.679 a ginger kid with freckles, and I said to them, 718 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.599 where'd you guys get that one? You know what I mean? 719 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.599 Jokingly right, and like, oh no, that's you know. I 720 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.039 thought they were gonna say, oh, we adopt them or 721 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:10.320 something like that. But I was just you know, being 722 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.199 a jackass, smart ass about do you know friends instance people. 723 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:14.840 But they got that, they got the joke. They like, 724 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:18.280 that's our biological child. I'm like, come on, okay, you 725 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:19.960 know what I mean. If you want to play that game. 726 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.920 Right, red headed step child, dude. 727 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.000 How do you there's not a Jewish couple that's producing 728 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.159 a freckled, redhead, blue eyed child. You know what I mean? 729 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:34.480 Right, unless there was some ginger in the woodpile somewhere signing. 730 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.320 I guess right, and that's a very dormant gen. I 731 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.719 suppose me now, it's. 732 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.119 Very dormant, very much. So yeah, I mean, look at 733 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:43.199 this picture of MEA. 734 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.719 Yeah, that's not that's not a bad statement. They're snappy dog. 735 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.679 But I guess what My point is, the blue eyes 736 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.000 only come from one place my understanding, Iberia the islands 737 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.840 in Nation of Iberia, Ireland. 738 00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.519 Mmmm right, yeah, I mean I don't know. I I 739 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.199 honestly didn't know that this this kid had anything to 740 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.519 do with the me Too movement. So I'm still reeling 741 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.119 behind that. 742 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.920 It's like, right, Dad, He's exactly right, That's what I'm saying. 743 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.760 That's when I started getting to the pas folks on 744 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.320 the interwebs. I was like, wait a second, we're going 745 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.920 to listen to this dude. He's not talking about his 746 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.519 own family. And then suddenly he's like, you know, him 747 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.880 and his sibling, one of his siblings said that Mia 748 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.599 Pharaoh raped him, and he came out and defended both 749 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.840 his both woody and bea. 750 00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:38.519 So what So, Okay, is this guy an actor? Is 751 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:40.760 he is he in the media besides that? Or is 752 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:41.800 he just a journalist? 753 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.199 I think he just does journalists uff. But you know 754 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:50.320 he works for a major outlet. Let's look here. I 755 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:50.960 don't know if you. 756 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.920 Wonder what his what his presence is in the grander 757 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.079 scheme of things. 758 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.039 Let's look, I don't know enough about the man. I 759 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.039 don't know enough about Frank Frank, the actual Frank Junior. 760 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.119 He looks more like Frank than Frank Junior looks like Frank. 761 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.760 Definitely. Oh my goodness. 762 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.320 And strangely enough, you think we may be off topic 763 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.199 on tonight's conversations. But did you know that the Frank 764 00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.519 Sinatra's personal writer was the first host of The Gong Show, 765 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:20.199 which was Chuck Barris's show before the Dating Game. 766 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.760 There, Oh stop it. 767 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.239 Yeah, comedian John Barber. Folks of interwebs can check out. 768 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.280 I've done a couple of interviews with John Barber. He's 769 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.920 also the only man to put Jim Garrison on camera 770 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:33.679 and let him tell his story and he got John 771 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:40.719 fired twice. Wow, so we look at Oh, he's born 772 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.559 in eighty seven, Okay, Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Pharaoh. Oh well, 773 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.000 there's the irishman in him, right m He is known 774 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.360 for his investigative reporting on sexual abuse allegations against film 775 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.840 producer Harvey Weinstein in the story with Rose McGowan. He 776 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.159 got a Poltzer for it, So the magazine one the 777 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.760 Poetzer for his reporting. He's worked for Unis Steff as 778 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.800 a government advisor. Wasn't that fancy? 779 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:11.159 Oh? Come on, there we go. That's that's the overarching thing, 780 00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:11.760 right there. 781 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:12.679 M h. 782 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.400 A government advisor. That's all we need to know. 783 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:19.920 So do you remember this lady? She's old school Hollywood. 784 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:21.400 That's Mia Pharaoh's mom. 785 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.159 I mean, I don't think I've ever seen her. 786 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:30.760 She was in the original Tarzan mmmmm. She was Jane. 787 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.639 So it looks like he hasn't really done much. He's 788 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.320 got a law degree from me l typical. 789 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.679 Well, he's been set up to be taken care of 790 00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:43.480 for the rest of his life. I'm sure. 791 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.840 Oh yeah, he did Rhodes scholarships. So there you go. 792 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.320 We just answered all the questions. He's a Yale attorney, 793 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.079 Rhodes scholar. I know a couple of them. Bill Clinton, 794 00:42:54.760 --> 00:43:00.000 right mmm and his his boyfriend's stroped out. I think 795 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.000 falls in that category. 796 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.519 What was the connection again with the Gong Show? 797 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.320 So, Frank Sinatra's personal writer when he was in the 798 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:11.599 late sixties there, mid to late sixties for a few 799 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.360 years was John Barber, and John Barber was the first 800 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.119 host of The Gong Show. He knows Chuck Bears personally, 801 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.039 and I even I asked him offline about these matters 802 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.480 with Chuck Bearris, and he didn't give me a direct answer, 803 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.679 but he definitely led, you know, left me with the 804 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.159 perception that he seemed to think there was something to it. 805 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:37.280 Right, Well, I obviously think that there's something to it. 806 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:44.719 Chuck Barris, did he ever host the Dating Game or 807 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:48.679 was he just the mind behind it? He's the producer, 808 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:49.639 he created it. 809 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.159 I think he was such a nut job. He always 810 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.119 put himself on camera after firing the host, right, like now, 811 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:56.320 it wasn't that kind of his thing. 812 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.719 Yeah, I was going to say, because the episode in 813 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.760 particular that Bell b for appeared on, Chuck Barris was 814 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:06.840 not the host. 815 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:09.719 Yeah, Let's look, I don't know. I think he did 816 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.199 some dating game hosts though. So he was the creator 817 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.480 of the dating game. The original producer of the Newlywed 818 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.119 Game and then he created the Gong Show. So the 819 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.119 Gong Show was after the Dating Games. That was seventy 820 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:26.239 six to eighty. And then you familiar with this Palisades Park. 821 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.199 He wrote a song about diddling young girls at a 822 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.679 park in New Jersey back in nineteen sixty two. 823 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:32.400 What the fuck? 824 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.119 Oh, it's a major hit. It's a major hit. Everyone 825 00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.719 loved it. Was up there with Chuck Berry, you know, 826 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.960 the convicted kid diddler who in the nineties, the FBI 827 00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.880 raided his house and tabloids would run those photos and 828 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.519 from the videos they sees where he's farting in Hooker's Mouse. 829 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.480 You know that Chuck Berry. He you know, he took 830 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.960 a fourteen year old across state lines for the purposes 831 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.360 of sexual you know, trafficking, violating the Man Act. The 832 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:57.400 record company got him out of prison after only a 833 00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.480 few years, and then he would go on to do 834 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.360 national tours singing a song called My Dingling. So this 835 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.079 guy kind of falls in that same category as Palisades Park. 836 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.519 It's about what girls. 837 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.679 The same exact category. And you know this movie that 838 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.199 they're referencing right here I talked about when I discussed 839 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.519 Belbiefer because my husband he was like, oh, you got 840 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.599 to watch this movie. It's really good. It's called Confessions 841 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:25.800 of a Dangerous Mind. 842 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.519 And I was like, it wasn't bad, right, Yeah, I 843 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:30.320 was skeptical. 844 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.400 I was like, you know, I don't know what's it about. 845 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.039 And then he kind of explained it to me. And 846 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.079 then I watched it and I was like, this has 847 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.920 gotta be real. Like maybe they dramatized it or whatever, 848 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.760 but the thought, but the but the story behind it, 849 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.880 I think is real. Is the real shit that that 850 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:52.239 Chuck Barris was under the employe of the CIA and 851 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.920 was working as an assassin? 852 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:56.639 I have no doubt. I have no doubt. I mean 853 00:45:56.719 --> 00:46:01.480 actors going back millennia, actors have been used for spycraft because, 854 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.800 for example, in the Medieval Ages medieval times, right, and 855 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.400 you know, they some of the only folks that could 856 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.039 travel between towns were acting guilts. So that's one example. 857 00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.880 I also argue, who else can get to any room 858 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:19.559 in the entire world besides Tom Cruise he plays he 859 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.800 played Trust me, I think he's a complete creepster, don't 860 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.960 get me wrong, but he plays a you know, he 861 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:25.639 really knows how to play a tall guy who knows 862 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.239 how to fight, and you know it's you know, make 863 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:28.320 some great films doing it. 864 00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.800 So he knows how to play a tall guy. 865 00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:36.519 Oh my god, you know what I'm talking about. He 866 00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.679 does too, doesn't he? And he produces this film. Right. 867 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.719 Wasn't that George Clooney that did that film? 868 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.639 Yes, he was the director. Yeah, he was the director. 869 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:47.079 Yeah. 870 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.599 And it was a Cohen Brothers I think. 871 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.960 And and George Clooney's wife was Julian as One's attorney. 872 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.559 My god, it's so crazy. 873 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.280 Yeah. 874 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:03.760 But so this. 875 00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:09.440 Allegedly over the release of the Podesta emails, allegedly allegedly 876 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:11.000 a legendly. 877 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:13.199 But this. 878 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.039 We can describe this a little bit for us. You 879 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:18.480 mean to do this you me read some of this 880 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.039 or do you have some details that as you as 881 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:23.559 you perceived the narrative as depicted in the Confessions of 882 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.119 a Danger's Mind, which was a book he wrote. I mean, 883 00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.519 he wrote that book that turned it into a movie, right. 884 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.519 Yeah, I mean you can kind of sum it up 885 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.800 for everyone. But my thing is like, even if you 886 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:39.199 look at this, it says bears killed thirty three people. 887 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.000 I mean, the numbers are weird. The whole story is weird, 888 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.760 and to me it's just like kind of laughed off, like, 889 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.519 oh ha haha, the creator of the dating game was 890 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:57.199 a secret CIA assassin. How fantastical. But the truth is 891 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.239 it's more common than not. It's like, as we were 892 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.280 discussing at the beginning of this episode, how everything is 893 00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:07.880 kind of intertwined. The mia Pharoh's kid starting the me 894 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.280 Too movement thing, or at least, you know, working with 895 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.400 Rose McGowan and stuff. He's really integral to the movement. 896 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.960 And then Epstein and James Brown and Trump hanging out, 897 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:29.840 and it's like actors and ci A and serial killers 898 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.920 and pedophiles and. 899 00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:35.920 Things, politicians and pophiles, the same things. 900 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.760 It's just to me, jj it's like, you know how 901 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.760 they always say it's just a big club. It is 902 00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:47.800 literally just a big club. To say that that Chuck 903 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.760 Barris wasn't a CIA assassin, Why would he make that up? 904 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.000 It's very specific. 905 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.679 Well, not only that, we we diminished these things, right, 906 00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:00.400 we diminished these things as being preposterous outright. They make 907 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.239 films and portray these things in that manner on purpose. 908 00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.000 It's no different than these sig ops to mine more 909 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.559 aspects of shit coating every situation, and then that way, 910 00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.519 you know, everyone wants to just say, well, that's ridiculous, 911 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:15.320 Chuck Bears, the TV producer, NT the GOM show guy, right, 912 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.719 But then you start unpacking it more constructively. You're like, well, 913 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.440 how does a guy like Rodney Alkala find his way 914 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.920 on the Dating Game? Mm hmmm. One. 915 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:28.400 And at the at the time that Bill b for 916 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.719 on the Dating Game, ye, he had already been in 917 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.400 jail like two or three times and gotten out on probation. 918 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.039 He had already murdered I want to say, like sixty women. 919 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:48.400 And it's like, damn, how does he get on a 920 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:50.760 game show with this past? 921 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:51.119 Like? 922 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.280 How do they keep getting out of jail? How does 923 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.400 Frank Dryman get paroled from being a serial killer in 924 00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.239 the maximum security prison in Montana where he's known in 925 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.639 his file is being a heinous dude inside, right, he's 926 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.599 been you know, he's hanging out with corn Pop. He's 927 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.480 you know, corn Pop's a bad dude. Yeah, Horn Joe 928 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.559 Biden And that's the kind of character that this guy 929 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.920 is very unscrupulous. Boar diadh, dude, you're good, You're out 930 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.079 of here, You're good. Just like Nathaniel bar Jon and 931 00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:19.679 you're like, yeah, dude, you're good. And then he tries 932 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.000 to rape, murder, eat, and kill another kid a couple 933 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.599 of weeks later, and they're like, yeah, you know what, dude, 934 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.320 he didn't mean it. You're good probation, like really well. 935 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.199 And so the first victim that they ever discovered from 936 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.320 the Bell Beefer was like a I want to say, 937 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.320 she was like eight years old. He picked her up 938 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.280 on the side of the road as she was walking 939 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.079 to school. He savagely raped her, beat her in the 940 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:50.079 head with uh steel pipe, and the police, some civil servant, 941 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.400 somebody thought it was odd that this little girl got 942 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.960 into Bell Beefer's car and actually called the police, and 943 00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:00.320 the police showed up at his apartment, and that's how 944 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:03.719 they ended up finding this little girl. She survived, if 945 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.639 you can believe that, after being savagely raped at eight 946 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.400 years old and being beaten in the head multiple times 947 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.960 with the steel pipe, she survived. But somehow he was 948 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.559 able to escape his apartment with the police officer inside 949 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.000 the apartment, and he went on the run to New 950 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:26.079 York for like ten years or something before he was 951 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.719 ever apprehension. How do you how do you the police 952 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:32.760 officers literally standing in your apartment with you, and somehow 953 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:35.000 you're able to just skirt right out the front door. 954 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:36.880 What's going on? 955 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.599 Yeah, that's wild too. And he's got a massive porn collection. 956 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.719 He's mrking Folks in New York, He's mrking Folks in Wyoming. 957 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.440 This guy's very California. Yeah, in California. He's a convicted 958 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:47.199 sex offender. 959 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.760 Right, He's got a storage locker in Seattle filled with 960 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.000 trophies of all of his dead people. 961 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.320 Yeah. So when Ted Bondy makes claims of the mans 962 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.039 and family interseacting with him up there too, I believe 963 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.639 it because Charles Manson had a storage locker in Seattle. 964 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:08.519 So not only does Bell Beefer have a storage locker 965 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:13.000 in Seattle, Ted Bundy's running around in Seattle. Charles Manson 966 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.840 has a storage shed in Seattle. What the fuck is 967 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:16.960 going on in Seattle? 968 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:17.800 Yeah? 969 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:17.880 What? 970 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:19.599 Here's one thing they don't tell us about Ed's friend, 971 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.559 Chuck old Eddie Edwards there, Chuck was it his mother 972 00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.320 or his grandmother? Must have been his mother. She moved 973 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:34.079 to Seattle when he was in Terminal Island prison, so 974 00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.000 he had connections up there too. Familial connections. 975 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:43.800 And I mean it's like this guy. 976 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.239 Bell Beefer, he ash to sleep on the job, right, 977 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.480 taking some cash to sleep on the job though, right. 978 00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:56.079 Well yeah. And the weird thing too is like he 979 00:52:56.320 --> 00:53:01.840 had I think it is the second time he had 980 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:06.880 been arrested for molesting a like a ten year old girl. 981 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.960 This is right here. 982 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.519 If I may, maybe he had Charles. 983 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.599 Well, if you look at Charles Manson's parole officer, he 984 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.559 was LinkedIn with the CIA chaos folks. He's trying to adopt, 985 00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.039 he's trying to he takes foster care of a young 986 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:25.639 child of Charles manson son. No shit, he's helping Charles 987 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.639 get out of things, right. So I mean these parole officers, 988 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:29.519 that is a good statement, and these people do play 989 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.159 a role when they're getting compromised like that. 990 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.760 I think even if it wasn't the same parole officer, 991 00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.239 a lot of parole officers are dirty and they work 992 00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.840 together and they fucking know about each other. Because his 993 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.960 parole officer was a female and it was the second 994 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.119 time he had been out on probation for rape, literally 995 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:55.880 raping little girls, and she was like oddly loose about 996 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:59.239 where he could travel to. Like we know, he's a 997 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.960 second time and almost killed one little girl beater over 998 00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:05.880 the head with the pipe and did all this stuff right, 999 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.039 and she he's like, I want to take a trip 1000 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.960 to New York. He's in California at the time, and 1001 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:14.760 he's like, I want to take a trip to New York? 1002 00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.440 Is that okay? And even though he was a two 1003 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.519 time offender with all this stuff he had done and 1004 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:25.559 brutally raping and murdering little girls all up and down California, 1005 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:30.840 She's like, cool, that's totally fine. Then he goes assumes 1006 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.719 an alias called John Berger, and that's when he starts 1007 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:40.679 working at the kids camp and still murdering women in 1008 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.920 absolutely disgusting ways. I mean, he was compared to the 1009 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.760 Hillside stranglers because he would like kind of cat and mouse, 1010 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:54.719 you know, he would play with him a little bit. 1011 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.039 Well, we talked about that with government Cheese, right, we 1012 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.320 talked about them government chees. How are they appropriating who 1013 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.519 killed who? When ms are very similar, the geographical area 1014 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.440 is very similar, in the time frames, very similar. 1015 00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.880 So Bell Beefer got wrapped up in the Hillside Strangler 1016 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:12.519 investigation because his crimes were so similar to what are 1017 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.239 their names Lenyard and it wasn't. 1018 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.519 No, you're thinking of Charles Lake and Leonard Ing right now. 1019 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:20.239 That's not the Hillside Stranglers though, right. 1020 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:28.239 Kenneth Bianki whatever the other guy's name was, his cousin, right, Yeah, 1021 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:32.039 those crimes were so similar to Bell Beefer that he 1022 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.960 got called in for questioning on Hillside Strangler murders. 1023 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:38.960 Also, that's the same time he's going on the Dating 1024 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.320 Game though, right, is the same time he's being considered 1025 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.199 for these murders, and he's already murked folks across the US, 1026 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.960 and then we see him go on the dating game, right, Yes, 1027 00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:48.159 do you happen to. 1028 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.119 Have that clip of him on the Dating Game because 1029 00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:52.840 I always you know, I. 1030 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:54.440 Will pull it up, man. But let's look at this. 1031 00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:56.960 I want to as we talk about the propaganda around 1032 00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.000 his narratives, I like to focus here on this comment. 1033 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.679 Why year old killers like Rodney Okayalis seek the spotlight 1034 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:04.800 on TV despite risk of getting caught. I don't think 1035 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:06.079 that's what this is about. I don't think that's what 1036 00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.280 this is about at all. But they sell it as 1037 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.519 a narcissistic, egotistical thing. It's causing this, And I mean, 1038 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:11.800 I don't think that's it. 1039 00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.119 I don't think that's it. I don't, you know. I 1040 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.519 understand that they're trying to shine it in a light 1041 00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:22.960 that psychopaths and narcissists will seek some type of like 1042 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.280 you know, attention in whatever way they can, and they 1043 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:34.280 like get off on being in the public eye and 1044 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.960 getting away within stuff. Like I get it, that's what 1045 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.199 they're trying to say. But this goes beyond that. 1046 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.519 Yeah, and I'm not saying there's not an element of that, 1047 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.880 but it's not mutually exclusive. You're like many things in 1048 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:47.800 this world. It's not not mutually exclusive. You could have 1049 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.800 a little bit of both factory into these things, you know. 1050 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.119 Yeah, one hundred. 1051 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.079 So I'm trying to pull up that clip right now. 1052 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.599 I'm getting as the victim doing interviews saying she almost 1053 00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.960 got killed when she was fourteen by the dating game killer. 1054 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.039 I don't think that's the same lady from the TV show. 1055 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:02.440 I hope not. 1056 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.119 Yeah, the one from the TV show. Her name is 1057 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:09.960 Sheryl Bradshaw. They actually ended up making a movie about 1058 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.320 this on Netflix. It's called The Woman of the Hour 1059 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.519 or something like that. 1060 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.639 Yeah, that's all I'm getting to and results with Anna Kendrick. 1061 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:22.199 Yes, if you put it to YouTube, oh there we go, 1062 00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:30.760 there we go, and oh there you go. Before you 1063 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.440 play this, actually see that's the host at the time, 1064 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.679 this guy that's the host of the time. I'm gonna 1065 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.719 actually run to the restroom really quick while you play 1066 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:46.639 this clip. But I've heard people talk about attractive serial 1067 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.440 killers before, you know, sometimes they'll mention Ted Bundy, who 1068 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.519 was an attractive serial killer whatever, And I've never agreed. 1069 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.719 I've always thought, you know, it was odd that people 1070 00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.960 refer to these guys as attractive. But in the case 1071 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:03.079 of Bell Beefer, he like this weird you know, tall, dark, handsome, 1072 00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:08.159 you know, fair of faucet haircutted freak, and he is 1073 00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:11.719 pretty suave and he's pretty smooth, and I do find 1074 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.400 him to be out of all the program killers, probably 1075 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.639 one of the most attractive ones. But the girl on 1076 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:25.280 this episode, Cheryl, she gets the date with him, and 1077 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:30.239 he's so fucking creepy that she refuses to go on 1078 00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.519 the date. It's like, imagine seeing this guy, he's obviously handsome, 1079 00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:37.599 he's smooth, he speaks well, and getting such a bad 1080 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.559 feeling that you refuse to go on the date with him. 1081 00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.880 You know. I mean, it's that he's got to be 1082 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.760 exuding some kind of like super creep vibes for you 1083 00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.880 to be like, nah, forget it. Even though I went 1084 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:52.800 on this game show and everything, I still don't want 1085 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.400 to go on the date with the guy. That's how 1086 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:55.159 creepy he was. 1087 00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.440 I think that's an excellent point, which begs the question 1088 00:58:57.480 --> 00:58:59.239 of how he got on there in the first place. 1089 00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.719 Right, yeah, yeah, But go ahead and play the clip 1090 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.599 and I'm going to run to the restroom really quick. 1091 00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:16.360 I'll be right back. We're making whoopee. What's whoopye? 1092 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.079 Oh my apology is wrong? Dating game? Oh well, if 1093 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:26.840 we who got his start when his father found him 1094 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.119 in the dark room at the age of thirteen. 1095 00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:34.719 Fully developed between tapes, he might find him skydiving or motorcycling. 1096 00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:41.719 Please welcome Rodnye alcohol alcohol with that, Jim Morrison hairstyle, 1097 00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.159 he's got next to welcome to this very stage to 1098 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:48.360 confirm that who believe he's in life, living happiness of pursuit. 1099 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:52.320 He is an actor, a stork buff. I think it 1100 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.400 is important to the logistics behind these matters. The producers, 1101 00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.000 the booking agents or what have you that are involved 1102 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.880 in getting these folks on there. How this dude didn't 1103 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.840 creep other folks out of you so creepy to the 1104 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.320 folks that the lady that he wins the show against, right, 1105 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.280 it's a blind test. She can't see him, but she 1106 01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.400 can hear him in these things. And you know he's 1107 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:13.719 not quite as smooth as old Eddie Edwards. I don't 1108 01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.519 think old Radney al Kala here, but he does win 1109 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:19.840 this program. Let's fast forward towards the end and let's 1110 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:27.239 listen to what he has to say about it. Why 1111 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:27.440 do you. 1112 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:30.480 Sailing to make up your mind? 1113 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:32.599 So relax and maybe about they wan't tear it on 1114 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:34.199 something side. 1115 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.480 I won't even ask any more questions about that. 1116 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:40.199 I'll just tell you something about the other bachelors. 1117 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:41.320 You didn't choose number two. 1118 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.639 We did a fine acting job as a virgin maiden. 1119 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.719 He is an actor, a skin diver from New York City. 1120 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.199 Say hi to Jeed Mills, jet come on this show. 1121 01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:52.239 There they go. 1122 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.320 Let's find Rodney. Where's Rodney? 1123 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:56.400 He got a lot of nerve. 1124 01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.199 He's in the motorcycling. He's also fine photographer. 1125 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.239 The Rodney Alcala. 1126 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:10.840 Rodney round of applause for Rodney alcohol. I've never really well, 1127 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.000 I's paid attention. That's how they pronounced his name. Here. 1128 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.199 It looks like he may be involved in some sort 1129 01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:18.360 of racket. So we're going to have you take to 1130 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:23.039 the course. First, you'll receive tennis lessons from expert Naomi 1131 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:31.360 Base seven. So that date never happens, folks. He creeps 1132 01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:36.440 that lady out, and then she's probably rightfully concludes that 1133 01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.800 she could have gotten murdered as she's doing interviews today, 1134 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.079 it seems. But it is interesting they introduced him as 1135 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:46.840 a photographer, right, so he had thousands of child pornography 1136 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.159 images right upon his arrest, convicted for such matters and 1137 01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:55.599 has passed there. This seems to be an ongoing trend. 1138 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:56.280 Welcome back man. 1139 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.880 He he lured a lot of women in as victims 1140 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.159 with this photography racket thing. He'd say, oh, I want 1141 01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.639 to take pictures of you whatever. But there is a 1142 01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.360 couple snippets they're hard to find in the clip, but 1143 01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.280 I'll just surmise where she asks a question and she's like, 1144 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.079 if you were a food and I was serving you, 1145 01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.639 what would you be? And he would be like, uh oh, 1146 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.000 she says, what would what is your name, and how 1147 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.320 do you taste? And he's like, I'm a banana peel 1148 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.599 me and like he's so smooth, and he's like flirting 1149 01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:36.199 her up, and she obviously picks him. And then she's like, 1150 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.760 what's your favorite time of day? And he's like nighttime 1151 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.679 because that's when all the real action happens. I mean, 1152 01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:48.920 he's literally like smooth talking. He's like, you know, obviously 1153 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.320 she picked him for a reason because out of all 1154 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.079 three of them, he gave like the most witty answers 1155 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.960 or whatever. She meets him, like I said, he's got 1156 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.920 like this weird fair of faucet as you said, kind 1157 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:05.199 of a knockoff Jim Morrison vibe, tall dark Hanson thing 1158 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.320 going on, and he's so creepy. She's like, fuck no, 1159 01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.119 I will not go on a date with this guy. 1160 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:12.719 Is this real life? 1161 01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:14.960 Did? 1162 01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.960 I did not know that? That's that's that's interesting information, 1163 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.960 because I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, the J. S 1164 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.519 Bring International is a major hair salon still today, and 1165 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:27.760 the man who took it over in the wake of 1166 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:32.039 Sea Brings Murder was the fifth cousin Markham of John Markham, 1167 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:34.679 the second the processed church lay member according to ad 1168 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.360 Sanders Files and their attorney. 1169 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:41.079 So is this comment somebody said, j See Brings protege 1170 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:42.559 did Belle. 1171 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.519 Beefers Bell Beefers? 1172 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.280 What come on? 1173 01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:48.400 Just a guess? So no, that's the good guess. I'm 1174 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:50.320 gonna look into the I am gonna look into that 1175 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.480 because this guy is the major Hollywood Well this he 1176 01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:56.840 took over j. S. Brings enterprise. Yeah, I mean this 1177 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.800 was a Jay Sebring was the hair salon to the stars. 1178 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:04.480 That a good point. Elvis Presley, his personal spiritual guide 1179 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:07.920 was Jase Brings business partner. He resigned from that business, 1180 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.639 the drug dealing hair saloon business, and became Elvis Presley's 1181 01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:13.559 personal spiritual guide. So there's a lot of weird stuff 1182 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:15.159 that goes on around these matters. 1183 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:21.079 Well, and back to the photography thing too. He went 1184 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.960 by the alias John Berger. He told people that he 1185 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.639 was a photographer. He lured a lot of women back 1186 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.760 to his place saying that he was a photographer. And 1187 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:33.039 when they finally busted him and got all that stuff 1188 01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:36.079 out of his storage locker. A lot like Randy Kraft 1189 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:40.679 and Jeffrey Dahmer, Belle Beefer's thing was like he liked 1190 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:44.960 to take pictures of his dead bodies. And it wasn't 1191 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:48.239 just women that he was after. He didn't really discriminate. 1192 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:54.320 He had murdered young boys, men, women, little girls. He 1193 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.519 did not discriminate whatsoever. 1194 01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.400 Yeah, he was pretty wild dude, right, He didn't really 1195 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.519 have all across the whole spectrum of ACTIP, kind of 1196 01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:05.480 like Richard Ramirez, right, Yeah. 1197 01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:08.800 Yeah, yeah, he was. He was across the spectrum. 1198 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:09.159 You know. 1199 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:11.480 He would just murder whoever he could get his hands on. 1200 01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:18.199 And there was he he was in the military. I 1201 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.079 don't know if you came across this in your research, 1202 01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:26.679 but he joined the army when he was seventeen, and 1203 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:33.079 they said that he had antisocial personality disorder and that 1204 01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.480 he was potentially a psychopath, and that he had an 1205 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:40.039 IQ of one thirty five. So he was a highly 1206 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:47.320 functioning narcissistic psychopath with like dissociative personality disorder. And for me, 1207 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.320 I find that to be highly significant because I feel 1208 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.039 like they look for those kind of people. 1209 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.039 That's precisely my same conclusion, ma'am. So ed Edwards gets 1210 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:01.519 diagnosed as a sado masochistic psychopath with his rage and 1211 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:05.159 terror rooted in the early onset of his life. He 1212 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:06.960 was made in a one night stand in the backseat 1213 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.760 of a car lover's lane. So that's what seemed he's indicated, 1214 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:14.199 is that's what sets off his rage is uncontrollable, psychopathic, 1215 01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:18.800 sado masochistic, sided at the age of thirteen with an 1216 01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:23.719 IQ of one thirty two. That's mensa level. That's mensa 1217 01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:25.360 level at the age of thirteen. 1218 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.119 That's what they look for, though, they look for that shit. 1219 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:32.480 And after his time. 1220 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:34.639 That's about jay C. Bring, That's about Jay C. Bring. 1221 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:39.039 Shampoo was based on j C. Bring the movie Shampoo. 1222 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:40.360 Are you familiar with that? 1223 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:41.360 No? 1224 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:42.239 What's that? 1225 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.000 Yeah? Check this out? Go ahead, man, I didn't mean 1226 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.599 interrupt you. I just got excited about it. 1227 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:51.280 Oh No, I was gonna just say. After his time 1228 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:57.599 in the army, he went to uh New York University 1229 01:06:57.639 --> 01:06:59.960 and he studied film under Roman Police. 1230 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.000 Well you beat me too. And so he's hitting a 1231 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:06.039 lot of the high marks, right, the army, the psychopath, 1232 01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:08.679 the genius, right, the satanism. Right, He's doing a lot 1233 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.559 of these high marks. Right. He's traveling everywhere, he's escaping places, 1234 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.039 he's gotten multiple names, right, So that's what I'm saying, 1235 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:16.039 Like what makes him any different than Eddie there and 1236 01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:18.119 what makes him not also being part of the same 1237 01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.199 kind of you know, operation kind of chaos programs, Bill 1238 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.239 Colby's queers, right, as Dave McGowan puts in his uh, 1239 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.119 his program to kill uh. These serial killers, the satan 1240 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.519 and serial killers specifically, are the Phoenix program Come Home. 1241 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:35.519 That's Michael Aquino's program, weaponized folklore and culture and doing 1242 01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:39.239 so in a psychopathic, murderous way to shape UH in 1243 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:43.079 social engineer folks and tyrannical and pastorinical lulls. And that's 1244 01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:44.840 all we see around these folks. And I think that's 1245 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:47.480 Dave McGown was right. We see the rest of Colby's 1246 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:51.719 products Operation Gladio, right, that's Colby program, Air America, that's 1247 01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.599 Colby program, the drug trafficking and the serial killing of 1248 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:58.559 Phoenix program. Michael Wakina reported directly to Bill Colby in 1249 01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:04.000 the Phoenix Program at Vietnam by his own admittance. So 1250 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:06.239 we see the same pattern behavior around this guy. And 1251 01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:10.039 then we see him, you know, doing the TV shows 1252 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:11.639 like Dad, And that's what I'm saying. We can see 1253 01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.760 all the same the salient characteristics of these uh you know, 1254 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.520 scumbags here. We're talking here, and we see the same 1255 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.159 thing going on here with old Beef Reino. What do 1256 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:26.079 we call them again, Belle Beefer Bell Beefer's mm hmm. 1257 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.840 Yeah, Well it's the exact same. That's that's why, that's 1258 01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:35.000 why you know, some of these guys aren't mentioned specifically 1259 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:37.800 in the book Program to Kill, but if you look 1260 01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:41.840 for the connections, you can and will find them. And 1261 01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.039 it's funny because it's always these guys that it's like, oh, 1262 01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.600 they're kind of obscure. I've never really heard about them. 1263 01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:53.039 They have all the same shit going on, like Herb Baumeister. 1264 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:57.319 Right, right, right, that's another right, this guy. 1265 01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:01.600 Has all the same characteristics as a program serial killer. 1266 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.039 So this is if I may real quick, I know 1267 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.279 you're you're spot on, and no one giving a shit 1268 01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:08.560 about his activities, right, and folks go into his farm 1269 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:10.239 and there's not bodies here. We're just going to turn 1270 01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.079 around and go home. So this is about on the 1271 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.920 eve of the nineteen sixty eight United States presidential election, 1272 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:21.279 successful Beverly Hills hairdresser George Roundee. Right, So that's played 1273 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.560 by Warren Batty. Right, Warren Batty has his career thanks 1274 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.199 to Cocaine Bob Evans. This film is written by Robert 1275 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.159 Town that's Cocaine Bob Evans, writer for all the films 1276 01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:34.039 he was doing. So we see all this Cocaine Bob stuff. 1277 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.119 And again we see this character is based on Jay Sebring. 1278 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:40.199 Nuts. 1279 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:41.439 How weird is that? 1280 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:46.680 Wow? In the grand scheme of things, if you know what, 1281 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:51.199 we know, it's not weird, but to the unsuspecting it is. 1282 01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:54.880 Well, we see all the nineteen sixty eight presidential election 1283 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.680 stuff around those same characters, Polanski and Tate. We're eating 1284 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:03.239 dinner with all. There's rat pack Satani's the JFK's brother 1285 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.800 in law's home, the rat packer himself there, the British 1286 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.880 felt I can't think of his name right now. I 1287 01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:10.479 believe it was either his home or Frankenheimer there in Malibub, 1288 01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:12.840 one of the two's right. Anyhow, you know Sinatra was 1289 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.640 there all the all the rat pack Satan's for there. 1290 01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:17.279 You know, Sammy Davis, Tate and Polanski, you know, the 1291 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.279 process were there, right. We saw them around the murder 1292 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:22.800 of RFK two in the sixty eight situation, and again 1293 01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:25.600 we see them all around the sixty nine situation. Where there. 1294 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.840 Sanders was told, as investigator Larry Larson in the portions 1295 01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:31.359 of the Book of the Family that were removed here 1296 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.720 in America but published in the United Kingdom, that Sharon 1297 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.720 Tate had to die over matters of national security. She 1298 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:42.039 ever heard something about Sirhan Sirhan because old double Surhan, 1299 01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.920 according to a I and S report, was attending sex 1300 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.600 magic rituals at the Tate Polanski home and around, I 1301 01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:52.119 believe in May of nineteen sixty eight, hosted by a 1302 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:56.840 quote unquote English satanic cult. Well that's the process. 1303 01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:05.479 Well see think of it in the spectrum of things. Uh, 1304 01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:12.479 Randy Craft government cheese Killer campaigned for Robert Kennedy and 1305 01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:16.640 got paid personal letter of thanks from him. 1306 01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:20.359 Yup. Yeah. 1307 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:26.039 And then Bell Beefer goes on to study film under 1308 01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:29.880 Roman Polanski. So we got. 1309 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.560 Despite them claims that they don't know each other, right, 1310 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.159 these people all know each other, ma'am. Is that what 1311 01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:35.520 you're saying? 1312 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.760 They have to I mean, think about it. And it's 1313 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:42.840 like we were just saying with Chuck Barris saying, I'm 1314 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.199 a CIA assassin. Don't look over here, folks. 1315 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:46.880 Uh. 1316 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.239 And by the way, I had uh one of the 1317 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:53.560 most prolific serial killers of all time as a guest 1318 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:58.920 appearance on my show Both c I A for sure. 1319 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.840 I mean it's like, when you really think of it, 1320 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:05.079 is it a coincidence or isn't it that he would 1321 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:06.159 have ended up on the show. 1322 01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.079 Well, I mean it seems what we're what we're identifying 1323 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:11.479 I think as the sailing characteristics of a much larger 1324 01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:14.680 program and the machinations of organization in that program. Right. 1325 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.359 Yeah, And I want to actually talk to you about 1326 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:20.600 one of the victims. 1327 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.680 Yeah, So I want to if I may point out 1328 01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:25.000 some things I thought you've already brought up that I 1329 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:26.960 just want to provide some commentary on. So he is 1330 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.760 from San Antonio, Texas, right, so this was a hotbed 1331 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:32.800 of the Nazis that came over. I saw a question 1332 01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.520 about Leno la Bianca. Why was he marked? Well, Leno 1333 01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.199 la Bianca appears to have been the East six Military 1334 01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:42.840 Police sergeant and that was a guarding camp overcast in 1335 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:46.279 southern Bavaria from July of nineteen forty five to may 1336 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:48.159 or March of nineteen forty six. 1337 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:52.840 And he also had two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 1338 01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.439 worth of gambling debt. 1339 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:56.760 Well, this is how I think those things intersect, because 1340 01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:58.800 he's already part of the network. He's already associated with 1341 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.800 those folks, so he's already all nazified up in that program. 1342 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.560 I think of Project paper Clip because Camp Overcast, Project 1343 01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.840 paper Clips started his Operation Overcast and it was later 1344 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.119 named Project paper Clip. But the reason why this camp 1345 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:14.319 was Camp Overcast, this was the first round of Nazis. 1346 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.439 They were drafted. This was Warner von Braun, This was 1347 01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:22.920 Walter Dornberger, this was uh shit, you done? I done? 1348 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.560 Forgot my Nazis. The guy that invented Air Force Medicine. No, 1349 01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:31.039 he's a good one, but he's no. No, HU purchased Strughold. 1350 01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:34.920 He invented Air Force medicine, which is a lot of 1351 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.439 Nazis shit, and did a lot of human testing on 1352 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:43.880 various elevations and altitudes and activities. And again Nazis ship. 1353 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:47.560 But that's headquartered out of San Antonio at Randolph Air 1354 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.720 Force Base in Brooks Air Force based Air Force Medical Command. 1355 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.960 So when I see this dude coming up doing, you know, 1356 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:56.199 out of those areas with some military backgrounds as well, 1357 01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.239 I'm just saying, like, you know, maybe he had some 1358 01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.560 some early onset of nazishit in his back round too, 1359 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:01.960 that got him started on this path. 1360 01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:08.119 Holy shit, Yeah, all right, because look at the timeframe, right, 1361 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:09.159 he was born and. 1362 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:14.680 That's what I'm saying. He was there years later before. 1363 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.800 Yeah, that's right. That's what I'm saying though, is like, 1364 01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:21.039 it's just the timing of a lot of these guys 1365 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:26.159 ending up being, you know, part of the in my opinion, 1366 01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:28.359 the same program that Charles Manson was a part of. 1367 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:33.279 They're they're all they all congregate around the same time frame, 1368 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.359 this first run of serial killing. 1369 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.359 Right, And he's got Fort Brad connections, right, so does Eddie. 1370 01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.560 So does Eddie. Eddie was pimping out one of his 1371 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:47.159 girls on the run in the early fifties. He was 1372 01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:48.840 on the run being a wall from the Marines where 1373 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:50.600 he faked his birth certificate to get in there because 1374 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.840 he was only seventeen. But he uh and they found 1375 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.920 out and you know, he may well instead of getting charged. 1376 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:57.560 But nonetheless, this is how he got in prison the 1377 01:14:57.600 --> 01:14:59.920 first time. But he's pimp in his own book, he's 1378 01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:02.720 a witting to pimping out ladies. And I think it's 1379 01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:07.079 nineteen fifty fifty five or fifty five in Fort Bragg 1380 01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:13.920 under the name doctor James Garfield Langley. He operates. So 1381 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:16.119 John Cameron did a great service to the folks. He 1382 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:17.960 also got fired I think as a result of this. 1383 01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.960 He pulled at Edwards NCIC record. It's on his website. 1384 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:25.800 John Cameron's from the database, right, you know he was. 1385 01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:27.760 He had access to it from the prison system where 1386 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:29.680 he was working as the investigator for the parle board, 1387 01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:31.880 but the FBI did not like him accessing EDS and 1388 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:34.880 CIC file. We see an EDS in CIC file. Though. 1389 01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.760 He had other aliases that he got arrested under over 1390 01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:40.880 the years, one of which was a very unique name 1391 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.159 called Eugene Starr and the only person I can find 1392 01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.159 the Eugene Star was an army Fella station at Fort Bragg. 1393 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:51.199 At the same time Ed's pimping out ladies, was it. 1394 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:56.720 What year was that, nineteen fifty five, early fifty six, 1395 01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:57.640 right around. 1396 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.640 The same time that well, b for like nineteen sixty one. 1397 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:03.079 That's not too far off. 1398 01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.039 No, it's not far off at all. Man Ed gets 1399 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:09.159 arrested in January of nineteen sixty two, so from November 1400 01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:12.079 of nineteen sixty so he's doing that before he went 1401 01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:14.399 to prison of Montana. He's pimping out ladies in Fort Bragg. 1402 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.800 But he this is again, this isn't his own book. 1403 01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:20.000 Because we ask how all these people get onto things, 1404 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:21.439 I can tell you how Ed got on a lot 1405 01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:24.159 of things. He created his own publishing company as a 1406 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.760 front company called Heart Publishing, published a book claiming to 1407 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:32.399 be a metamorphosized serial killer. I'm sorry, criminal, metamorphosized criminal. Meanwhile, 1408 01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.159 he's just marking folks the entire time. He's traveling America 1409 01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.640 on over one thousand radio and TV net stations in 1410 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:41.880 the nineteen seventies and allegedly just marking folks the entire time. 1411 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:45.760 Fucking wild. 1412 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:47.880 So yeah, it is a close proximity though, because he 1413 01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.680 does have activities in this area. He gets arrested in 1414 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:53.960 January of sixty two, is the number one most wanted 1415 01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:57.439 man in America from the Federal Bureau of on Investigations 1416 01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:01.399 list in Atlanta, Georgia. So again, he's very prolefic. He 1417 01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.399 went to Mexico before that too, So when Rodney was 1418 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.680 living in Mexico, as in Mexico. 1419 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.680 Well you know who else is in Mexico around that time. 1420 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:15.880 Patrick Kearney who was mistaken as the Government Cheese killer 1421 01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.960 because their crimes were so similar. In Patrick Kearney studied 1422 01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:24.840 h something with Lee Harvey Oswald. 1423 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:29.079 He yeah, there was. They were at the they were 1424 01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:33.119 at the Monterey Naval Station Language Academy up there, Monterey. 1425 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.920 California, the language academy. That's right. So so Patrick Kearney, 1426 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:41.079 serial killer, prolific serial killer, was in Mexico studying something 1427 01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:46.039 about language with Lee Harvey Oswald. And then we had Oh. 1428 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:47.520 I might be getting those mixed up. Was he the 1429 01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:49.840 guy that was also seen at the Mexican embassy claiming 1430 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:51.760 to be in Oswald? Was that the same one? Maybe 1431 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:52.880 I'm getting guys mixed up. 1432 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:58.319 No, No, that Patrick Kearney was was a pedophile serial 1433 01:17:58.399 --> 01:18:01.600 killer who was murdering in and around the same area 1434 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.199 and timeframe as Government Cheese. They they almost tell the 1435 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:09.800 two apart. But the but the thing is Government Cheese 1436 01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:12.079 was in the Air Force. Patrick Kearney was in the 1437 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:21.000 Air Force. Belle Beefirst in the Army, a right ed. 1438 01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:24.439 Be b for Government Cheese. Combo. 1439 01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:27.399 Yeah, look at this, Look at this this Patrick Kearney. 1440 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.520 If you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see 1441 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:38.039 the mention of Lee harveyot stop stop stop, let me see. Yeah, 1442 01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:43.600 and he attended military language school with Lee Harvey Oswald. 1443 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:47.239 He went. He went on to claim that he drove 1444 01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:50.359 Oswald to the Mexican border and almost went to Mexico 1445 01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:55.359 City with him, and that's in nineteen fifty eight. I'll 1446 01:18:55.359 --> 01:19:00.640 call his father's name. Last name is Becure and that's French. 1447 01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:03.680 That's a good question. I'll have to look into that further. 1448 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.960 I appreciate that there, Tony. So you're bringing up some 1449 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:08.640 good points. I like where your head's at. So, yeah, 1450 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.199 that that's that same language school that we're talking about 1451 01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.199 here in Montere it's a Monerate now Mexico. Man, it's 1452 01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:18.760 the Monterey Bay, California. To point that out there where 1453 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.800 May Brussel was doing her radio show out of and 1454 01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:25.079 lived for many years. So May Brussel talks about somebody 1455 01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:28.039 else who knew Charles Manson at that same language school 1456 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:31.079 and must have known likely known Patrick Kearney. This guy 1457 01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:34.199 was a naval guy, intelligence ow and I guy. He 1458 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:37.039 infiltrated the hippie movement, much like Sharon Tate's father would 1459 01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.439 later do. And a couple of years after this incident. 1460 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.319 This was I think sixty eight, so May May meets 1461 01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:43.920 him because she would pick up a bunch of hippies 1462 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.119 hitchhiking in the area after Summer of Love. She was always, 1463 01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:48.319 you know, she's a you know, a mother with you know, 1464 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.479 four children in a van. She's just picking up pitch 1465 01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:53.319 hikers of the hippies, you know. And she picked up 1466 01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:55.680 this dude, and she would later she lived in Monterey, 1467 01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:57.760 she would later see him leaving the base there as 1468 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.039 a naval officer. She says. She talks about this in 1469 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.680 her radio program in the seventies early seventies. Should we 1470 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.760 see another confluence of weird events right around that that 1471 01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:08.319 Monteree language school there? Right? 1472 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:14.000 So odd? No, it's not odd. I shouldn't say that. 1473 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.560 It makes perfect sense if you get on board with 1474 01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.600 what you and I know about this covin. 1475 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:24.159 If you will, you ain't kidding. And it is that 1476 01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:26.880 we are talking the same guy with Patrick Kearny. So 1477 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:28.600 he is the guy who claims to have also driven 1478 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.359 Oswald down to Mexico City, right, even though Oswald never 1479 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.880 went to Mexico City. This was the double Oswald situation, 1480 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:38.920 but he plays into that narrative, right, they're right. Yeah. 1481 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:43.520 And I mean it's like I was saying before, look 1482 01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.600 at who these guys end up hanging out with. What 1483 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.720 what's that say? Add for JJ and Julius Newburger place 1484 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:57.560 the government government cheese, Yeah, bell B for government cheese. 1485 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:01.720 I'll I want to point this thing out about Patrick 1486 01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.319 Kearny that I really thought was a fun fact. He 1487 01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:07.479 returned to California and became an engineer at he was. 1488 01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:15.439 Aircraft and William Bonnan, who was also mistaken to be 1489 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:20.359 government cheese, was a air force and killing. 1490 01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:23.680 Wasn't that the same fellow that also worked for the 1491 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:28.279 RFK nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign in Los Angeles? That 1492 01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:31.520 was Randy No, there's two of them, And there's no 1493 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:33.079 way government cheese. 1494 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:34.359 That was William and government. 1495 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:37.720 Yeah, And there's no way these folks don't know Tate Polanski, right, 1496 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.079 they weren't on the same presidential campaign right in the 1497 01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:42.760 same country. 1498 01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:48.960 I'm saying. So Patrick Kearney, William Bonn, and Randy Kraft 1499 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:54.800 they're all. They're all. It's like I said before, JJ, 1500 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.600 It's it's like they meet up at some kind of 1501 01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:01.079 serial killer convention and they compare nos and ship and 1502 01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:05.479 they like, they know, they know each other. They have 1503 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:06.359 to know each other. 1504 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:09.640 Now, I mean, you're making I like your heads at ma'am. 1505 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:11.239 I've been thinking the same thing and trying to do 1506 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:13.279 this case study on it. I'm packing a lot of 1507 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.319 the similarities amongst all these killings, not only looking at 1508 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.520 the victims and doing more of the victimology, right, and 1509 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:21.000 this kind of how these victims got there and maybe 1510 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:22.800 they were born into it. It seems, you know, when 1511 01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.279 you're saying that this dude might be from some weird 1512 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.000 French line, I'm into that because a lot of these 1513 01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:29.439 folks are in these weird bloodlines that are find themselves there. 1514 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:34.359 It's not just Abigail Folger's saranted, it's it's a Markham, 1515 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.800 It's you know, it's a fellow Brian now from Zodiac. Right. 1516 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.600 I was actually gonna there's there's one victim here that 1517 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.600 I want to talk to you about. Actually there's two 1518 01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.079 victims I want to talk to you about. But the 1519 01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:50.039 first one lines up with what you're saying. Uh, he 1520 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:56.760 murdered a girl, Bell Beefer murdered a girl. Her name. 1521 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.199 Let's see here the. 1522 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.520 Victoris if you'd like, And he won second place. 1523 01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:09.960 Okay, yeah, I think her name was something Hoover, Oh Hoover. 1524 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:15.079 Or however Hoover or how Horvard disappears after al Cala's 1525 01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:17.039 second release in nineteen seventy seven. 1526 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:23.640 Yes, look at this, It says Ellen Jane Hover, twenty 1527 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:28.600 three year old daughter of nightclub owner and the granddaughter 1528 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.520 where O lost it? Oh, and the goddaughter of Dean 1529 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:39.560 Martin and Sammy Davis Junior. So he ends up murdering 1530 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:45.520 the goddaughter of Dean Martin and Sammy Davis junior. And 1531 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:49.000 he takes he takes her body. Look where he takes it. 1532 01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:50.199 Look where he takes it? 1533 01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.239 JJ I know the JD. 1534 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:58.760 On the JD. Rockefeller Estate. Have you seen the JD. 1535 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:02.840 Rockefeller Estate. The motherfucker is fenced off. The motherfucker is 1536 01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:06.279 elusive as fuck to get to how how does he 1537 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:10.439 and why does he have access to be burying anybody's 1538 01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.720 fucked up dead corpse on the J. D. Rockefeller Estate, 1539 01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.079 The god daughter of Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior. 1540 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:19.359 First off, how does he even get to her? How 1541 01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.119 does he even know where? Gets her? Murders her and 1542 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.520 then buries her on the Rockefeller estate. 1543 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:28.600 Come to Westchester County, Westchester County, New York. Man, it's 1544 01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:29.600 a real den of inequity. 1545 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:32.079 But think about that. 1546 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:34.560 Do you know who else lives on the Rockefeller State 1547 01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:37.920 the property that may not be within the fenced area, 1548 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:39.960 but it's just outside of it in chap Equittick and 1549 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:42.479 property at least used to be owned by the Rockefeller State. 1550 01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:48.600 The Clintons bill, the famously take I know, you know, 1551 01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:51.920 you know, being an Air Force MP for many years, 1552 01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:53.520 a lot of the secrets, we do a lot of 1553 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.760 details with Secret Service. We augment their activities. I've done 1554 01:24:56.760 --> 01:24:58.880 a lot of you know, a lot of presidential details 1555 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:02.880 from varying capacities sniper to crowd control, et cetera. And 1556 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:04.239 you know, so I've been a lot of these folks, 1557 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.199 and I've been told that old Bell's like, well, he 1558 01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:08.760 likes to do his job daily, jogs to the Rockefeller State. 1559 01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.920 They got bodies buried all over the place. Apparently fucking 1560 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:16.680 Bell Beefer's over there burying his Why not the Clintons. 1561 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:22.600 Somebody put in the comments section here the Sandman comic 1562 01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:26.399 and TV series, there's a convention of serial killers. 1563 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.680 That is ship is he from a famous Texas Ranger 1564 01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.560 political family of Texas. Oh man, I appreciate that, Tony. 1565 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:35.359 I'm gonn look into that where I missed that completely. 1566 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:36.960 This is Bell Beefer chat is. 1567 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.000 Off the chain tonight. Two comments in a row? What 1568 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:40.560 was that second? 1569 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:43.239 I'm sorry you were saying something, know you were good. 1570 01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.159 I was just saying, somebody put the comments about the 1571 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:49.479 serial killer convention in the Sandman TV series. I talk 1572 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.439 about that sometimes too. But what was that second one? 1573 01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.279 Did he come from a famous Texas range? 1574 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.840 Dah that that Mexican French name there the book Horse, 1575 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.319 it's his mother's family. I think we'll go back and look. 1576 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:06.159 But that's apparently that's an old school Texas family. Now, 1577 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:09.039 I at least to live in San Antonio for three years, 1578 01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.439 and uh, you know, I spent a lot of time 1579 01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:13.720 around Texas folk as well. They have this weird thing 1580 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:15.399 that I don't understand that they do. They're all getting 1581 01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:19.560 arguments of barbecues and whatnot. You know, these these older 1582 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:21.720 families have been there a long time. They getting arguments 1583 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:23.279 of whose family has been there longer. 1584 01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:24.680 Hm. 1585 01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:27.439 It's really bizarre. But you know a lot of times 1586 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.560 these Mexican families win because they were there a little 1587 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:31.720 bit longer, you know what I mean? Family being a 1588 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:35.439 Texas Ranger. That's interesting. I did not know that. That's fascinating. 1589 01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:38.680 Well, Bell Beefer's dad took off when he was like 1590 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.119 four years old or some ship like that split, He 1591 01:26:42.239 --> 01:26:45.479 split and left the mom. 1592 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:47.880 And then so is that where he's getting the burger? 1593 01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:50.319 Where was that his mom's family's boukar? Where are we 1594 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:51.319 get in the book warp, I've not. 1595 01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:53.720 Forgotten Right here it says. 1596 01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:57.640 That's his dad's name. 1597 01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:01.920 Then huh, that's his dad's name. The John Burger thing 1598 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:03.560 is just some ship he made up. 1599 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:06.479 Well, I thought maybe his dad's name was Alkala. I 1600 01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:07.640 guess I missed that altogether. 1601 01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:11.920 His mom's name Anna Maria Gutierrez. 1602 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.079 But how did he become how did he become an 1603 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:15.600 al Calla? 1604 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:21.079 Right there? The middle name his dad's middle name. 1605 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:25.720 Oh, I see now, Oh, well they do those weird 1606 01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:27.640 things in Mexico. Right, Oh? Do I take that off? 1607 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:28.880 The two last names thing? 1608 01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:32.000 Well, they do the hyphen thing and they take the mother. 1609 01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:34.119 I thought, maybe I'm confused. I thought they took the 1610 01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:36.600 mother's name, right, Isn't that that's not part of the deal. 1611 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:40.039 I thought it was like a hyphenated between both of them, 1612 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.119 like part of the dads and part of the moms. 1613 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:44.239 But I could be totally fucking wrong about that. 1614 01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:50.479 I don't know. Well, stand by, please, man, Let's look 1615 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:52.960 here again, book Horse. I was trying to look up 1616 01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.239 that bookcourg name right here? 1617 01:27:55.279 --> 01:28:02.159 Yes, yeah, yeah, see, he says, I'll call his father, Movejudierra. 1618 01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:04.800 Is he to Mexico? Then abandoned them. 1619 01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:07.920 I'm cutting out again. I apologize. So you know what 1620 01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:10.960 I mean? That wouldn't you be like a Gutierrez hyphen Buchoor. 1621 01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:15.279 The name is strange because if it does come from 1622 01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:19.319 like an old Mexican family or old French family, something 1623 01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:21.520 like that, that would be significant. 1624 01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:24.600 Now I totally agree with you, especially if this family 1625 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:26.840 is deeply rooted in the San Antonio politics in the 1626 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:36.279 Texas Rangers. Right mm hmm. Okayyu's mother's last name right, Oh, 1627 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:38.520 there we go. So he takes the mother's last name. 1628 01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:41.279 So then why would now cal Tech his mother's last name? 1629 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:49.159 Maybe because he needs to have the. 1630 01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.159 Right He's doing some boukhor stuff maybe, and that's where 1631 01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:52.960 the burgh comes from, right, He's focused on that boukore 1632 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:57.439 on hay pronounce I'm probably butchering it too. I's what 1633 01:28:57.479 --> 01:28:59.319 I'm saying. I don't understand always the name game. I 1634 01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:01.199 knew there was a union name thing, and that is 1635 01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:03.880 I totally missed this. We to do have some great comments, 1636 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.800 and I appreciate you folks with the interwebs tuning in 1637 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.479 to get a little GCD here tonight, but also in 1638 01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:10.800 the commentary. It's great stuff. I definitely enjoy it. 1639 01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:16.199 The comments are are off the off the charts tonight. 1640 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:17.359 Yeah, you ain't good. 1641 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:18.119 I agree. 1642 01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:20.680 No, I'm just trying to look at it. Go ahead, man, 1643 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:22.319 I'm just trying to look up this Texas Ranger. Well, 1644 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.479 I'm just when we're talking French stuff, we're talking society 1645 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.079 stuff now in America. All these French names, every French 1646 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.640 name you know has people in the society of Cincinnati, 1647 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:38.039 even folks like Labooth, Shia Shia Labooth. You know, folks 1648 01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.880 like Jackie Bouvier, Kennedy, her Dad society Cincinnati. Bouvier's right, 1649 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.079 That's what I'm saying. So this is a bookhoor thing. 1650 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.159 Even though it came to Mexico doesn't mean it's it 1651 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:49.600 sounds pretty French to me. That's some French origin right, 1652 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:53.079 mm hmm, seems like but please go ahead, I'm looking 1653 01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:55.039 up this. 1654 01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.600 So I was just gonna tell you about. So the 1655 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:02.039 first victim was was the god daughter of Dean Martin 1656 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:06.279 and everything buried at the Rockefeller Estate. Which, uh, that 1657 01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:08.800 should be a huge red flag for anyone, even if 1658 01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:12.239 they're not into the program to kill the universe. That 1659 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.399 just should stand out as completely insane how he was 1660 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:19.359 able to acquire access to the Rockefeller Estate to be 1661 01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:24.880 burying bodies. But anyways, the second victim I also find 1662 01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:31.720 to be interesting because he takes. Her name is Monique Hoit. 1663 01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:38.399 He kidnaps her, rapes her, drives her to Joshua Tree, 1664 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:43.760 takes pictures of her posed in like weird sexual positions, 1665 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:48.680 sodomizes her, rapes her again, suffocates her, strangles her until 1666 01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:52.159 she's about to pass out, and then revives her and 1667 01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:54.399 then continues to do that over and over again. 1668 01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:57.760 Okay, in the head. 1669 01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:02.520 Her name is Monique, and then he bludgeons her in 1670 01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:04.720 the head with a rock over and over again, rapes 1671 01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:10.279 her some more. She survives all of this, fifteen years old. 1672 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:14.720 She survives all of this. Good Lord he takes He's like, 1673 01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:16.479 oh well, I guess I didn't kill her. I'm gonna 1674 01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:18.560 take her back to my apartment to finish her off. 1675 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:26.239 He stops at a gas station, She escapes the car, 1676 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:32.479 runs to the police station, files a report that she's 1677 01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:37.760 been raped, sodomized, raped some more, beaten in the head 1678 01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:41.800 with a rock, escaped the attacker. She takes him right 1679 01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:46.399 to his apartment. He gets arrested, and they put the 1680 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:51.880 bail so low that his mother posted the bail within 1681 01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:55.520 like an hour of him getting arrested, and he's released 1682 01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:58.520 right back onto the streets within like an hour of 1683 01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:06.840 being arrested. Even so, he has bludgeoned, raped, sodomized, and 1684 01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:13.600 strangled this girl almost to death. He's released within an hour, 1685 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.399 and then he goes on to kill like seven or 1686 01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:17.279 eight more women. 1687 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:19.159 How is this? 1688 01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:23.359 I mean, JJ, I think about that. How is this reality? 1689 01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:27.920 Well, booth means beef. How is that reality? 1690 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:28.439 No? 1691 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:30.239 I totally agree with you, And this is a great 1692 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:34.760 You're presenting a great example of the bizarre nature of 1693 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:38.680 how this dude operates. M hm. So, how far is 1694 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:42.279 this from Jack Parsons ritual activities near Joshua Tree or 1695 01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:46.520 the the solar lodge of the oto that was out 1696 01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:49.000 there that had that child in a cage that got 1697 01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:49.760 busted in a case. 1698 01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.640 Well, look at the timeframe too. It says on Valentine's 1699 01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:56.079 Day nineteen, I was seventy nine. 1700 01:32:56.720 --> 01:32:57.880 I was going to point out the other one was 1701 01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:59.920 July fifteenth, and the folks of innerwebs want to get 1702 01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:03.000 understanding of the weird occult nature of July sixteenth, which 1703 01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:05.239 would have been seemingly the night, the more early morning 1704 01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:07.640 hours when that lady was buried on the Rockefeller State. Well, 1705 01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:09.600 I did a show a couple of weeks ago on 1706 01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:12.079 July sixteenth of the occult weird at ease and odd 1707 01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:14.560 of ease and high, you know, high weirdness around that date, 1708 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.840 especially here in America. But you know, I I thought 1709 01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.239 this was in speaking of the Rockefeller State. Yeah, it is, so, 1710 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:24.800 it's west Chester County. I was a comment about the mounds. 1711 01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:27.680 I don't I can't quite off the top of my head, 1712 01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.279 but Entremer Park was a man location. I'm pretty sure 1713 01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:33.079 this Rockefeller was a man location. But I'll get back 1714 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:35.039 to it's a good kind again. I love the commentary 1715 01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:38.199 because I uh, I have I've lost those the mind 1716 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:40.680 notes of the Rockefeller State somewhere in the molted hops 1717 01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.600 and bong resident sadly, but I'll definitely get back down that. 1718 01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:47.680 And then this too, like, look, if we're seeing victims 1719 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.039 of one family maybe or victims of cold activities right here, 1720 01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:53.479 maybe that's maybe that's the Sane Hoyt family. 1721 01:33:55.279 --> 01:34:00.560 Well it to me, it's it's like, it's like, uh, 1722 01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.000 how does one sodomize repeatedly, rape, bludgeon in the head, 1723 01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:09.680 strangle repeatedly, over and over again a fifteen year old girl. 1724 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:12.520 She escapes, she runs to the police, she files the report, 1725 01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:16.880 and he's released within an hour to murder it. God 1726 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:18.359 only knows how many more. 1727 01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:21.479 Well, you want to meet Rodney out Kal's and sister. 1728 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:24.479 Who the fuck is this guy? 1729 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:29.199 Colonel French born in New Orleans. So I don't have 1730 01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:33.399 his membership, that's a very strong likelihood he's Society of 1731 01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:41.800 the Cincinnati. Wow, this miss that. I totally missed that. Well, 1732 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.680 I mean we see the same pattern behavior. I mean 1733 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:47.119 Sharon Tate, her father Society of Cincinnati, Brian Hart and 1734 01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.840 all a Zodiac victim. He was society hereditary member from 1735 01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:55.520 his maternal grandfather. It's passed down to the closest male bloodline, 1736 01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.119 and if you don't have a son like Jack Bouvier 1737 01:34:58.720 --> 01:35:02.279 did not have a son Black Jack Bouvier. Jacqueline Bouvier 1738 01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:06.119 Kennedy on NASA's father. He didn't have any sons his 1739 01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:09.800 eldest grandson JFK. Junior. So when JFK Jr. Was born, 1740 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:12.479 his grandfather was already dead. So I presume he was 1741 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.399 born into the rereditary membership of the Society of Cincinnati. 1742 01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:19.760 I do have his membership card, Jack Bouvier, so, but 1743 01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:22.439 I will certainly look into Boukhar. Here is I've been 1744 01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:24.359 studying the New Orleans stuff in this front. I've been 1745 01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:27.239 getting real deep in the French Society lately, and it's interesting. 1746 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:31.239 The DuPonts Ei DuPont original member. Again, if you know 1747 01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:34.279 a name in an America, it's French there. I'm telling you, 1748 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:37.560 it's their their society. The new has got members from 1749 01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:40.000 his paternal line in the Society of Cincinnati in the 1750 01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:45.039 French chapter. The American Protestant. Yeah, the American French Protestant 1751 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.079 pope whose father converted to Catholicism. And somehow this dude's 1752 01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:51.680 of the pope Society of Cincinnati heritage and that blood 1753 01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:53.319 line of the paternal blood line. 1754 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:56.439 Well, what do you think about Nicholas Cage being so 1755 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:59.960 obsessed with the French stuff in buying that weird high 1756 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:02.640 in New Orleans and shit like that, and his grave 1757 01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:05.800 site's already been plotted out in New Orleans and shit 1758 01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:06.359 like that. 1759 01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:09.760 I think Nick Cage is an ancient Alian cargo cultist, 1760 01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:13.079 and that doesn't go These Satanists are also an Chtanalian 1761 01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:15.239 cargo cultists. I'm not saying he's a Satanist, but they 1762 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:17.279 do get along in there's capacities in New Orleans is 1763 01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.520 a very occult town, so there's a high probability that 1764 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.640 he is there. And he marries Lisa Marie Presley, lifelong scientologists. 1765 01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:27.600 You know, that is like corporate Satanism basically, mm hmm. 1766 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:31.640 But it surprised you to find out that Nicholas Cage 1767 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:33.560 is like a prolific serial killer. 1768 01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:35.000 Not even the slightest. 1769 01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:43.000 That's what I'm saying is like actors, TV personalities, you know, politicians, 1770 01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:47.279 they they're all like fucking secretly and like like with 1771 01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:50.920 Belle b for ending up on I they hosted fucking 1772 01:36:51.039 --> 01:36:55.560 dating show killing the god daughter of Dean Martin, Baringer 1773 01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:59.119 on the Rockefeller Estate, all of this stuff. It's like, 1774 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:06.720 obviously these guys are fucking connected. 1775 01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:10.239 Well, if you look at how, you know, they're definitely connected. Man, 1776 01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:12.560 if you look at how, you know, you know, you 1777 01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:16.800 look at how somebody like you know, Well, when we're 1778 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:19.039 talking to the Rockefeller Estate, with the epicenter of the 1779 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.640 activities you're describing right here, I think I can encapsulate 1780 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.720 a lot of that stuff exhibited at least here in 1781 01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:26.399 this this one photograph. Now, I don't know what happened 1782 01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:28.319 here beforehand or after, and I don't care to know, 1783 01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:32.399 but you'll see Henry Kessinger. His his daddy, not real 1784 01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:35.920 life but professional daddy is Nelson Rockefeller, you know, resident 1785 01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:39.560 of that estate. And he's the guy who's instrumental, instrumental 1786 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.880 in all these Nazi programs of national security from within 1787 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:44.680 the White House dating back to World War Two and 1788 01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:49.119 thereafter from the Eisenhowers. He was the Army intelligence guy 1789 01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:51.880 assigned to the White House in the Eisenhower administration. So 1790 01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.560 he's oss he's setting up the Nazi stuff. He's going 1791 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:57.399 in the White House, he's running all the machinations of 1792 01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:02.479 national security. Later through his boys Kissinger and Zebranu Brazenski right, 1793 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:05.159 and again you can look at their symbolism of these organizations. 1794 01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:09.159 They all use the fucking swasika again, mister Process. Here 1795 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.079 Bob Cocaine Evans, who gets busted with the Median cartel 1796 01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:13.960 from Merk and Roy Raidin right, the head of the 1797 01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.479 Process in New York, according to Margy Terry's ultimate Evil. 1798 01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:19.960 So we see again these epicenter of activities and these 1799 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.680 matters around. When you say that, I mean, it seems 1800 01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:24.840 shocking that you'd find a body barrier there like that. 1801 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.920 But I mean, look at the crew right, mm hm, 1802 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.239 you know where this man is from. This guy right 1803 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:36.800 the shirt was bastard Bob Cocaine Evans, Westchester County, New York, ma'am, 1804 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:42.199 the den of iniquity. His mother's family is a very 1805 01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.199 prominent grocer distribution company. They're still today. 1806 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:49.479 Well, I mean, let's play a little game here, all right, 1807 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:52.079 Let's just play a little game here. Let's pretend that 1808 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:58.319 we are psychopaths like the CIA fucking uh program to 1809 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.920 kill Academy fucking you know what I'm talking about. 1810 01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:04.880 Let's just love to play that game. Mind says, to 1811 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:05.720 get it started for that. 1812 01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:08.000 Yeah. 1813 01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:10.039 Yeah. When I like to talk about psychopaths and thinking 1814 01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:11.720 like a psychopath, I like to play this clip to 1815 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:13.479 understand how a psychopath thinks. 1816 01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:17.399 As we know there are known nomes, there are things 1817 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:21.159 we know. We know, we also know there are known unknowns. 1818 01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:23.239 That is to say, we know there's some things we 1819 01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:27.800 do not know, but they're also unknown unknowns. The ones 1820 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:29.880 we don't know we don't. 1821 01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:35.119 And there you go. That's a psychopath. That's how they 1822 01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:35.720 think right there. 1823 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:40.800 Right, I mean, let's just say the rules. This is 1824 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:45.800 the rules of the game. You have to pick out 1825 01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:51.600 of ten serial killers for your team, right that you're 1826 01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:56.640 going to send out you We're doing fucking Colby type shit. 1827 01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:01.560 We're sending out serial killers and there's a draft pick. 1828 01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:05.439 Who are you getting? So Belle Beef for his body 1829 01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:08.960 count is estimated to be around one hundred and thirty, right. 1830 01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:12.079 Well, the name of Bell Beefer. I expect at least that. 1831 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:18.159 Much, at least Government Cheese is somewhere sixty to seventy victims. 1832 01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:21.520 And you know Ted Bundy, they never found out. They 1833 01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:26.239 said it could be upwards of one hundred victims. Who 1834 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.359 are you picking for a year? This is a draft 1835 01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:29.279 pick jj. 1836 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:35.239 Oh, it's five oh five. I will take five Edwards 1837 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.800 and then I will clone him four times. 1838 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.199 No, for real, you could pick at Edwards, but then 1839 01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:44.119 you got four more that you have to pick to 1840 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:44.840 be on your team. 1841 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.319 Well, according to my understanding of the reports and books 1842 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:51.199 that I've read from John Cameron regarding Frank Dryman, he's 1843 01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:54.640 my number two. And then I'm gonna go with let's 1844 01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:57.319 see here, let me give a let men get a 1845 01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:01.039 little bit of hmm. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go 1846 01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:05.159 international and take Adolph Adolfo Costanza in the third spot. 1847 01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:09.880 Okay, all right, all right, yeah. 1848 01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:11.760 Two number four. I feel like I need I don't 1849 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:13.680 I'm not big into DEI programs, but I feel like 1850 01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:15.920 I'm gonna need an Aileen Morenos on the squad, you know, 1851 01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:16.439 just in case. 1852 01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:17.840 Okay, all right. 1853 01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:20.399 And then my starting five, I'm gonna round it out 1854 01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:23.239 with that Pinkerton pig fella. We gonna need to clean 1855 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:25.800 up operation. We gotta feed these people somewhere to the pigs, 1856 01:41:25.880 --> 01:41:27.079 right right. 1857 01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:29.479 Okay, that's a star lineup. 1858 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:31.840 Yeah, that's the all star team. I like to see 1859 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:33.920 what you got, ma'am. See you gotta see if you 1860 01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:35.319 can pete with my lineup. 1861 01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:39.800 My top five for my draft to pick. If we're 1862 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:44.560 going body count alone, I'm going Bell B for Government Cheese, 1863 01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:55.359 Ted Bhole, Jeffrey Dahmer, and for rounding out the fifth one. 1864 01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:58.880 I want to throw a wild card in there and 1865 01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:12.039 say let's go Kissinger or Fauci, maybe Fauci. Yeah, Number 1866 01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:16.399 five is gonna be Fauci for me. Oh shit, I 1867 01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:17.199 think I lost you? 1868 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:20.439 Are you back my back? 1869 01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:24.960 Yeah? Where was I on the countdown? The wild card? 1870 01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:30.159 You need? You need the final you need the wild card, Yeah. 1871 01:42:29.079 --> 01:42:30.079 Anthony Fauci. 1872 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:32.079 Oh, well played. 1873 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:35.920 Yeah, So that's gonna be my all star lineup. 1874 01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:40.239 Just competition, original competition. 1875 01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:45.520 Yeah, because by a warfare is one of the most 1876 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:48.520 smoothest ways to get your body count up into like 1877 01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:50.600 hundreds of thousands of people. 1878 01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.640 Can we see how diabolic and we see how diabolical 1879 01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:59.800 old Tony Fauci is within dog experiments. And he hired 1880 01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:02.640 none other than a fella from the son of Sam 1881 01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:05.119 Cold of Yonkers. There, according to the ultimate evil, a 1882 01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:07.920 fellow by the name of an Ardent pedophile by the 1883 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.119 name of I done forgot his name, as I'm just 1884 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:15.560 trying to describe him. What's his name? Oh, Lord of Mercy, 1885 01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:22.920 Carlton Gadgetsik, Carlton gas Well employed for Tony Foucy. Carlton 1886 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:26.079 Gadgetak brought about fifty young boys back from Micronesia and 1887 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:31.720 documented and no one gave a shit. I And they 1888 01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:33.920 eventually gave a shit, but then like they only gave like, 1889 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.159 you know, they just made it look good, right, They 1890 01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:37.000 didn't really give a shit. 1891 01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:40.439 I think the people in the comments are playing the 1892 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:43.800 game to Somebody said the Green River dude was terrible. 1893 01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:46.600 Also programmed to kill Greenriver. 1894 01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:50.720 Also a team. Also a team, a team? Also a team. Yeah, 1895 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:52.840 also a team. No, I've I've looked into that a lot. 1896 01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:57.479 In fact, in the nineteen ninety eight American Psychological Association 1897 01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:02.279 National Conference, there is a psychia psychoologists or psychiatrist I 1898 01:44:02.279 --> 01:44:05.239 don't remember now, one of those things, you know, one 1899 01:44:05.239 --> 01:44:07.960 of those cooks. He wrote a he did he did 1900 01:44:07.960 --> 01:44:10.720 his national conference. This is one of the lead performer 1901 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:13.840 performances or presentations of the national Conference in Boston that 1902 01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:16.079 year for the a p A. And he did it. 1903 01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:19.840 The Green River Killer, the occult murders of the Green 1904 01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:20.439 River Killer. 1905 01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:27.359 And they always get They always get these names, right, 1906 01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.239 That's what kills me. That's why I rename them. It's 1907 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.880 just not fair that they go down with these these 1908 01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:35.119 bitchen monikers. 1909 01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:38.720 I hate that much like government cheese and gang. There's 1910 01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:41.600 so many folks murking these hookers and around Seattle and 1911 01:44:41.680 --> 01:44:43.560 Tacama at the time. It's like, how you attripping this 1912 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.239 all to one person in the first place. You don't 1913 01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:45.640 have any. 1914 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:48.479 Effen they make They make the villain. That's all they 1915 01:44:48.520 --> 01:44:51.079 have to do, JJ is make a villain. Give them 1916 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:55.239 a name, give them a scary backstory, show a picture 1917 01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:57.159 of him wearing a fucking coat and tie. 1918 01:44:58.119 --> 01:44:59.960 That's part of the show, right, you got you got 1919 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:02.600 to make it. You gotta make it fantastical, right, you 1920 01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:05.159 gotta make it unbelievable that this one guy did all 1921 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:06.399 these things. 1922 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.960 Yes, this one guy. That's why you know. I recently 1923 01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:13.279 talked about somebody brought it up about how Ted Bundy 1924 01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:16.199 had such a huge backing of support from the Mormon 1925 01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:19.800 Church and they made signs and held them up outside 1926 01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:22.840 the courthouse. We love Ted and all this shit. They 1927 01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:25.399 just looked like idiots. I mean, it's like, this is 1928 01:45:25.479 --> 01:45:26.640 all part of the show. 1929 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:31.439 Yeah, Israel my sixth man. That's my sixth man because 1930 01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:31.720 he's a. 1931 01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:35.399 Not I forgot about that guy. I forgot about that guy. 1932 01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:38.640 Yeah, And he knew Timothy McVay and the Kio brothers. 1933 01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:39.920 Mm. 1934 01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:41.319 So that's your sixth pick. 1935 01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:45.279 I'm sorry, knew Timothy McVay and then the Kio brothers 1936 01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:47.760 grew up or so of their teenage years with Israel Keys. 1937 01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:51.399 And there's there's connecting principles around that same Nazi compound 1938 01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:54.119 up there in northern Idaho. Right when I'm always referring 1939 01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:57.560 to Colby's queers about and who do these domestic air campaigns, 1940 01:45:57.560 --> 01:45:59.560 which I think we're under one right now. That's a 1941 01:45:59.560 --> 01:46:01.319 horse of a different color, man. But yeah, the I 1942 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:03.279 would take Israel Keys. He's my sixth man. He's the 1943 01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:03.960 guy off the bench. 1944 01:46:04.079 --> 01:46:07.800 That's your backup. That's your bench guy. That's your backup guy. Yeah. 1945 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:10.560 I mean that's why, that's why these guys are so 1946 01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:14.760 sensationalized though, right, It's like you give them a name 1947 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:20.760 and you give them HBO documentary or a Netflix documentary, 1948 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:24.359 and you've created, you've created. But you know at the scene, 1949 01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:25.880 you mean like stranger things? 1950 01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:29.840 Do you mean like Stranger Things. What do you mean 1951 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:34.600 that was produced by Carlton gad you six nephew. So 1952 01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:37.439 when we see these Netflix documentary, yeah, look at the 1953 01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:39.479 look at the preceding credits the first season, he was 1954 01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:41.239 the show runner. I'm not the producer. He was the 1955 01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:44.319 showrunner for the first season, the head writer. I believe 1956 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:47.359 what his role was. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We 1957 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:56.560 were producing these narratives in these shows, in these documentaries, right, yep, 1958 01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:01.279 we see the same pattern. What the actual black Yeah, 1959 01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:03.560 and we see the same pattern. I used Israel Keys 1960 01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:05.560 as an example. Yes, he knows the key is keyo's 1961 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:08.800 need McVay. They're connected to that Hayden Lake compound. And 1962 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.079 on top of that, Israel Keys is a great example 1963 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:14.079 of a Nazi Satanist, you know, devout right there, you know, 1964 01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:18.199 self proclaimed, and that he is being used in the 1965 01:47:18.319 --> 01:47:22.119 Bill Colby's Queer's Operation Gladio style. So he marks up, 1966 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:26.359 he does a home invasion. He's he's much like Bell 1967 01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:29.800 BF for here. He's got a full spectrum of activities 1968 01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:33.159 and victims and whatnot. He does a home invasion in 1969 01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:35.960 a small town just outside of Burlington, Vermont. I think 1970 01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:39.640 was June eighth, twenty eleven. This is just near my 1971 01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:43.119 bootleg hometown of Campbells Hump, Huntington, Vermont, where I spent 1972 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:45.439 every summer my childhood and a lot of my adult life. 1973 01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:49.800 The uh, this is an area that's very so I'm 1974 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:52.479 very familiar with. It's an area is very quiet. No 1975 01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:55.760 one locks their doors after Israel Keys did that home 1976 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:59.560 invasion nearby Essex, in between Huntington and Burlington, about halfway 1977 01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:02.399 in between them. It's kind of suburban city, but Burlington's 1978 01:48:02.399 --> 01:48:03.880 not really a city, you know. And I'm out in 1979 01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:05.920 the mountains where I'm at half you know, it's like 1980 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.199 twenty miles away. So these are all very rural areas 1981 01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:11.079 and folks were never locking their doors. Israel Keys did 1982 01:48:11.079 --> 01:48:13.840 that home invasion, kidnapped those folks and murdered them, like 1983 01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:16.920 thirty miles away or whatever. Dump some bodies that scared 1984 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:18.720 the shit out of them. I was up there just 1985 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.199 after these activities. I watched the fear in the communities 1986 01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:23.720 of Vermont, and I watched even my family up there 1987 01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:25.199 locking their doors. 1988 01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:26.319 Fuck. 1989 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.239 And that's Operation Gladio right there. That is Operation Gladio 1990 01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:33.359 by a Nazi Satanist who was very prolific. He you know, 1991 01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:36.039 he maybe depending on his you know, he might work 1992 01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:37.520 his way up off the bench at some point. But 1993 01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:39.119 I mean he's right now, he's a sixth man. 1994 01:48:39.279 --> 01:48:41.720 Well have you heard of the serial killer guy from 1995 01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:45.399 Alaska that supposedly had kill boxes set up in like 1996 01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:48.279 all fifty states? 1997 01:48:47.119 --> 01:48:49.159 That's Israel. 1998 01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:50.680 Key, are you sure that's that guy? 1999 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.399 Yeah, he gonna killis No, he had numerous kill kits 2000 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:57.119 in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York that had been documented, 2001 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:58.600 including the one in this case. 2002 01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:00.920 That's what I thought. That's what I think. 2003 01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:05.039 He commits suicide allegedly into prison and anchors. But he's 2004 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:09.960 got he's got murders from Maine to Alaska. 2005 01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:10.600 Kill boxes set up. 2006 01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:11.479 Kill boxes. 2007 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:14.880 Yeahs to kill boxes. 2008 01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:18.319 Well, how do you train somebody? So how do you 2009 01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:20.560 train something? I see trail maker Jones making a lot 2010 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:23.000 of good comments. I appreciate your commentary, sir. He's brought 2011 01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:25.520 to We discussed offline. We'll be doing something in the 2012 01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:27.680 future here. In fact, if you want to talk some 2013 01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:29.880 serial killers on these more program to kill matters, you're 2014 01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:31.840 welcome to join us in that conversation as well. But 2015 01:49:32.199 --> 01:49:35.640 an individual who's never considered really a serial killer, even 2016 01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:37.920 though he's been highly trained at these matters. We're describing 2017 01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.840 right now a Gambino mobster that has connections to that 2018 01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.600 whole son of sam Thing well, at least tertiary connections, 2019 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:49.640 if not possibly direct Roy de Mayo. So he had 2020 01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:52.520 this whole process, very technical process of killing that he's 2021 01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:55.039 killed hundreds of folks. He would get him into his 2022 01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:58.560 bar in uh Brooklyn, Queen the kind of the border 2023 01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:01.239 of Carr I think is and easy Queens, kind of 2024 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.720 the border of Brooklyn and Queens and the Gemini Lounge. 2025 01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:06.640 And it was called the Gemini process, and he would 2026 01:50:06.680 --> 01:50:09.600 get all these hundreds of folks he murdered. John Gotti's 2027 01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:12.199 on recorded tapes. The head of the game would later 2028 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:14.760 be the head of the Gambino crime family. The Mayo 2029 01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:17.439 wasn't a capo, but he was almost so powerful as 2030 01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:20.920 his capo, right, Gambino was a capo, Gotti was a 2031 01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:24.800 capo Gotti and Sammy the song Bird Gravano, they were 2032 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:28.239 deathly afraid of roy To Mayo, and roy To Mayo 2033 01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:31.000 had a whole international car car, Theffer, and he was 2034 01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:34.720 selling automobiles to you know, Saddam Hussein and gang. You know, 2035 01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:37.680 stolen vehicles, you know high you know high price stuff, rolls, Royce, etcetera, 2036 01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.159 that kind of thing, Lamborghini's. He also, again was a 2037 01:50:40.399 --> 01:50:42.960 highly trained murderer. So if someone taught him how to 2038 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.960 you know, gut people properly, stabbing properly in the right spots, 2039 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.039 then gut them, they'd hang them over like the bathtub 2040 01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:49.960 and let all the blood drain out, and then they 2041 01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:52.600 would chop all the pieces. Again, they would leave no evidence. 2042 01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:54.960 But someone taught in a very organized method which to 2043 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:56.439 do it. And you have to be very diabolical to 2044 01:50:56.439 --> 01:51:00.239 be doing these these people, right, So he's another have 2045 01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:01.720 to I might have to do a substitution. We might 2046 01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:03.520 have to throw Lean warner Is off the team and 2047 01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:03.920 get some. 2048 01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:07.039 You might throw you might throw her off first. I 2049 01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:10.079 want to say, Jim Bobby in the comments section, thank you, 2050 01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:14.920 I see your comment. Uh the Atlanta child murders. Yes, 2051 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:19.640 that's crazy as fuck. It's also if if you guys 2052 01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:22.199 have not read fucking Program to Kill yet, you need 2053 01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:24.439 to do so. Okay, there's a whole child on the 2054 01:51:24.479 --> 01:51:30.399 Atlanta child murders. Keys was arrested in Texas and stopped in. Okay, 2055 01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:35.920 see on the way to good points. Saw and I 2056 01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:39.479 was gonna say, I saw that. 2057 01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:42.000 Yeah, they ever turned that conviction. Right, that's good stuff. 2058 01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:48.720 I like that. That's good stuff. Yeah. Named in that convicted. 2059 01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:52.720 They convicted mentally handicapped fellow for kidnapping and murdering Eton 2060 01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:57.239 pass despite outlaw biker one percenter Tiny Lentini was recorded 2061 01:51:57.239 --> 01:52:00.039 on saying that he saw folks like gadgets and the 2062 01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:02.880 doctors and yonkers that were associated with the process. Right, 2063 01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:06.159 those Tiny Lentini tapes have been stolen from the Ed 2064 01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:09.600 Sanders archive at Princeton. So do with that what you will. 2065 01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:10.960 So I think there's a lot more to that. 2066 01:52:11.720 --> 01:52:14.680 I remember what I was gonna say. Part of the 2067 01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:18.880 CIA training when you're let's just say this is a 2068 01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:25.680 serial killer training program is weapons of opportunity. Okay, weapons 2069 01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:29.640 of opportunity. Look at all the greats. You can almost 2070 01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:33.920 you can almost see which ones are and which ones 2071 01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:37.000 aren't part of this training based on how they murder 2072 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:42.880 their victims. Bell b for government, cheese, ted bee whole, 2073 01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:49.680 all of the best and oftentimes of opportunity. 2074 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.600 Yes, ma'am. And oftentimes it's misrescribed that they're they're sloppy 2075 01:52:51.640 --> 01:52:55.359 by laying they're victims out for display. But that's part 2076 01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:59.920 of the operation Gladio Phoenix program weaponized folklore and religion 2077 01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:02.800 that Michael Aquino I'm up at, Mikey. You know, he 2078 01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:05.319 even claimed that's precisely what he did in the Phoenix program. 2079 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:08.239 For Colby, I assert if you apply those same statements 2080 01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.680 and tactics that he describes, that's clearly what he's doing 2081 01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.079 here in America with all this satanic murdering stuff that 2082 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:15.279 he sets up, right and the state ritual abuse that 2083 01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:18.039 goes along with that, and again part of the Gladio networks. 2084 01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:20.359 So they're leaving these bodies out. I mean know Demeyo 2085 01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:23.159 made he left no evidence, right, But folks like ed 2086 01:53:23.239 --> 01:53:26.760 he was putting folks on display. Inact, a lot. 2087 01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:29.159 Of them put their victims on display. 2088 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:32.800 And that's part of the scare tat, that's part of it. Yeah, 2089 01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:35.960 because like Michael Akino, for example, he learned from Edward Lansdale. 2090 01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.520 Edward Lansdale developed a tactic and the a Keno employed 2091 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:43.960 throughout Southwest Asia, Southeast Asia, and that is in the 2092 01:53:43.960 --> 01:53:47.159 Philippines of the nineteen fifties, ed Lansdale, mister Cia. He 2093 01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:51.000 was the proudest him. And Lansdale and Colby are Insigon 2094 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:53.840 running all these Phoenix program ops in the sixties. When 2095 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:56.920 a Keno goes over there, so Lansdale just leaves and 2096 01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:59.960 he's the psychological warfare kind of guy that Aquinno picked 2097 01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:02.359 the torch from. And then a keynot kind of replaces 2098 01:54:02.399 --> 01:54:05.000 them for Colby over there in Saigon at the US 2099 01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.239 State Department, you know, operating from the you know, at 2100 01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:10.960 the embassy, right, you know, auspices of not doing weird 2101 01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:13.079 creepy shit when they're doing super weird creepy shit. So 2102 01:54:13.479 --> 01:54:15.920 what he's saying is he's doing is weaponizing the folklore 2103 01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:18.479 against the local population. We see that with the Satanic 2104 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:21.239 murder rink. How else can you scare out a nation 2105 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:25.159 full of Christians by displaying Satanic ritual homicides in full display. 2106 01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:28.760 That is Operation Gladio, that is the chaos and scare 2107 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:31.439 tactics of these matters of Satanic murder rink of the 2108 01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:34.479 Colby's Queer's Phoenix program. And that is why they display 2109 01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:38.000 these things. Now, why why Roy Demeyo makes no evidence 2110 01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:40.880 of his things? You know again, these these are not 2111 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:43.840 all the same program They have different purposes. I believe 2112 01:54:43.840 --> 01:54:47.319 in different motivations and different phases of these programs. Like 2113 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:49.079 I said, you see Edward when Edwards kind of his 2114 01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:52.159 one phase, and then that Thomas Eugene Creed's doing all 2115 01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:54.079 the same shit coming from all the same places as 2116 01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:57.760 they had ten years later. So again I see these 2117 01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:00.000 as phases, and in later phases, I think we see 2118 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:02.720 other elements being employed. And when it comes to Roy 2119 01:55:02.800 --> 01:55:06.239 to Mayo, he's just like, ah, this dude's aggressively neat. 2120 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:09.680 I mean ed ed was ed was? You know ed 2121 01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:13.079 Edward's there, He was very when he wanted to be meticulous, 2122 01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:15.279 he obviously could, except for that whole seaman thing on 2123 01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:17.319 them jeans. I think because he's never come up into 2124 01:55:17.279 --> 01:55:20.119 the other cult cases allegedly, which I question, but that 2125 01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:22.600 is the narrative. But Roy to Mayo, I mean, this 2126 01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:26.399 dude just you know, he's just murking folks like crazy again. 2127 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.039 He enjoyed it, right, someone trained him to do this 2128 01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:29.920 and he enjoyed it. 2129 01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:37.239 Well. I was gonna ask you what you think the uh, 2130 01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:40.159 the deal is right. They have to find people who 2131 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:42.239 like to mix business with pleasure. 2132 01:55:42.880 --> 01:55:44.840 That's it. And that's why we see ed doing the 2133 01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:47.720 Lover's Land in November of nineteen. It's twenty six, nineteen 2134 01:55:47.800 --> 01:55:51.039 sixty in Portland, Oregon under the name James Garfield Langley 2135 01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:53.560 returning to the scene with a bolt hole in his 2136 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:55.279 arm and there's a bolt hole in that there's bolt 2137 01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:56.800 in his arm, bleeding, and there's a bolt hole in 2138 01:55:56.840 --> 01:55:59.239 the windshield. But we see him escape to Portland jail 2139 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:01.079 that night because he's got to go do that hit 2140 01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:03.640 on that naval officer, that O and I officer in 2141 01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:10.960 the story organ see the business and pleasure. It's a 2142 01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:14.279 stash kid of ropes and shovels and lime. That's what 2143 01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:18.680 Israel keys had, right. And then there's another fellow that 2144 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:22.079 was American hookers in Chili Coaalfee, Ohio to West Virginia 2145 01:56:22.439 --> 01:56:24.119 and he got he got murdered by one of them 2146 01:56:24.119 --> 01:56:25.920 hookers in West Virginia. She pulled a gun on him 2147 01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:28.760 when he tried to kill her. But he had a 2148 01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:32.039 kill kid with him as the same nature. Shovels, ropes, lime, 2149 01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:35.119 you know, something to bury the body and then put 2150 01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:37.399 the line on top to make it disappear fast. Right. 2151 01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:39.520 But Roy to Mayo, he had a different program. He 2152 01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:42.479 would again, they knew how to sab folks in the 2153 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.600 right spot, hit the right organs, and then they would 2154 01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:47.279 bleed out. And but they wouldn't bleed out too much. 2155 01:56:47.359 --> 01:56:50.039 They hit him in the right spots. They're mainly bleeding internally. 2156 01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:51.800 Then they would get him into the bathroom at the 2157 01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:54.800 at the Gemini Lounge bar, which is, as Jonah pointed out, 2158 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:57.079 was now at church, and then they would and then 2159 01:56:57.119 --> 01:56:58.840 they would gut them and then bleed him out over 2160 01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:00.720 the tub, and then they would chop of all the pieces. 2161 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:03.880 There literally was new. I mean, this was a whole problem. 2162 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:06.319 This is a butcher shop. Folks walked into the Gemini 2163 01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:08.520 Lounge and a butcher shop. And you see they say 2164 01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:11.319 every two hundred. I mean that's probably a conservative estimate. 2165 01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.880 This guy graduated high school with Bernie Sanders. 2166 01:57:15.359 --> 01:57:20.439 Oh, for God's sake, yeah, yeah, Oh, forget guy. 2167 01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:22.680 I think it was nineteen fifty eight. 2168 01:57:22.720 --> 01:57:28.720 Maybe, Hey, Jay, what the This is why I think 2169 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.640 you would enjoy Dexter because. 2170 01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:32.159 I'll check it out. 2171 01:57:32.640 --> 01:57:35.800 They got in this new season. They even talking about 2172 01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:39.239 the kill boxes and the kill kids and shit, and 2173 01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:42.279 it's like, you know, the serial killer meet up, and 2174 01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:44.840 they're like, this is my kill box. Look, I'm an 2175 01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:48.560 anesthesiologist by day and a murderer by night. And he's 2176 01:57:48.600 --> 01:57:53.039 got he carries around like this little anesthesiologist mask, and 2177 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:55.840 he has a satchel and he just turns the gas 2178 01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:58.920 up and he gases his victims. And you know, Dexter 2179 01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:02.319 obviously has his said coot trem But I mean, this 2180 01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:04.960 whole thing about the killboxes and the kill kids, the 2181 01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:09.520 serial killer meetups, it's starting to become a reality. Like 2182 01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:10.560 the show Protocol. 2183 01:58:11.439 --> 01:58:13.640 It's protocol. So I'm gonna if you're saying her serial 2184 01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:15.840 killer meet up, so I'm definitely checking this out. Man 2185 01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:20.680 So Ed Edwards Henry or otis toole who's attributed with 2186 01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:25.119 the murder of Adam Walsh and Jeffrey Dahmer, all in Hollywood, 2187 01:58:25.119 --> 01:58:27.880 Florida at the time. Adam Walsh has disappeared, murdered and 2188 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:31.079 his head it's later delivered on August tenth, nineteen eighty. 2189 01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:38.199 August tenth is Robert's birthday. Jeffrey Dahmer was delivering pizzas 2190 01:58:38.520 --> 01:58:40.760 he worked at that pizza place if you in Program 2191 01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:43.680 to Kill, McGowan cites him as reporting a dead body 2192 01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:46.119 he allegedly found in the alleyway behind the pizza shop. 2193 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:49.760 The delivery van for that pizza shop matches the description 2194 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:53.359 of the van used in the Adam Walsh disappearance. So 2195 01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:56.039 we're talking about serial killers in the conference, and I 2196 01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.439 think Ed's the leader. So there's a there is a 2197 01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:05.560 major You're there's a significant statistical decrease in homicides in 2198 01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:09.479 America during the thirteen years, not all at once, during 2199 01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:13.039 the three stretches, the cumulative or thirteen years that Ed 2200 01:59:13.159 --> 01:59:14.199 Edwards spends in prison. 2201 01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:17.039 You're burning my barn. You are. 2202 01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:22.359 So when we're talking about corporate program or protocols and trainings, right, 2203 01:59:22.520 --> 01:59:24.439 I think that's and were talking about the hand of 2204 01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:26.479 death cult, right, and that kind of using that kind 2205 01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:28.960 of reference right in this net, yea Ed would be 2206 01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:30.960 the general. Ed would be the general. 2207 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:35.680 You are you serious? I had never heard that my life. 2208 01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:38.119 No one has, no one, That's what I'm saying. John 2209 01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:40.560 Cameron's done the seminal study, and no one wants to touch 2210 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:46.520 it because there's so much liability. Right, Ed infiltrated. I'll 2211 01:59:46.520 --> 01:59:48.399 put it up here. It's called it's me at Edward, 2212 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:51.439 or it's me I'll bring it up. But it's John 2213 01:59:51.479 --> 01:59:53.520 Cameron's Coldcasecameron dot com. 2214 01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:56.720 And he's got about this situation with the kids. 2215 01:59:57.159 --> 01:59:59.640 He's got every he's got proof of everything. He makes 2216 01:59:59.680 --> 02:00:01.640 a lot of wild claims, but I'm saying, if you 2217 02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:03.560 look at Ed in this hand of death cult, his 2218 02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:06.159 claims make a lot of sense. Ed may not be 2219 02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:08.199 the sole responsible party for all these things, but he's 2220 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:10.760 associated with him because their protocols within a network that 2221 02:00:10.840 --> 02:00:15.960 he's the leader of. So Ed gets arrested. Ed gets 2222 02:00:16.039 --> 02:00:19.560 arrested in April of nineteen eighty three in Atlanta, Georgia, 2223 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:23.319 technically Marrie out of the suburb, but he's arrested for 2224 02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:29.159 burning his house down in Pennsylvania. Right in that arson 2225 02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:31.920 in Pennsylvania, the Feds arrest him and they sight in 2226 02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:35.039 their report that they found in his closet a Marietta 2227 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:40.399 Police Department sergeant's uniform and early reports of the Atlanta 2228 02:00:40.479 --> 02:00:44.960 child killings. He is the white The presumed murder was 2229 02:00:44.960 --> 02:00:47.640 a white fellow dressed as a cop. That's what Ed did. 2230 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:50.399 A numerous cystanusis he's notorious for doing that, and we 2231 02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:53.640 have photograph of Ed in July of nineteen seventy nine, 2232 02:00:53.760 --> 02:00:56.960 hugging the captain of the Atlanta PD, the head of 2233 02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:57.680 the task force. 2234 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:00.279 Oh my god. 2235 02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:06.279 And again he gets arrested Adam in April nineteen eighty three. 2236 02:01:06.479 --> 02:01:08.960 He spends three years in prison. During those three years 2237 02:01:09.039 --> 02:01:12.079 is when Henry Lee Lucas goes on his national tour. 2238 02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:14.279 I think to shit code all of what Ed's doing. 2239 02:01:15.319 --> 02:01:17.960 Oh my god. So we have a name and a 2240 02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:23.079 face now for one of the assailants working with in 2241 02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:26.079 the Hand of Death cult, Henry Lee Lucas. 2242 02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:33.279 And again he's John Cameron documents Ed being down in Miami, Hollywood, Florida. 2243 02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:35.479 There at the same time we know Dahmer's there, we 2244 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:38.760 know tools there and tools credited with that murderer. Again, 2245 02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:44.159 Henry Lucas's buddy, right, so this is cold case Cameron 2246 02:01:44.159 --> 02:01:46.439 again he makes a lot of wild Again. I'm not 2247 02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:48.439 saying I subscribed to all the claims that he says 2248 02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:50.359 Ed did, because I think as the general in this 2249 02:01:50.439 --> 02:01:55.520 kind of a assassin team, right, these Satanic Cult assassin fellas, 2250 02:01:56.119 --> 02:01:58.640 and you know the Hand of Death style, right, I 2251 02:01:58.640 --> 02:02:00.560 think that you know. I don't think Henry Lucas was 2252 02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:02.159 the Hand of Death guy. I think he's telling a 2253 02:02:02.159 --> 02:02:04.279 true story, but he's doing the false narrative on it. 2254 02:02:04.359 --> 02:02:06.760 Shit coate it. Right, So everyone looks at Henry Lee 2255 02:02:06.840 --> 02:02:08.960 Lucas is like, this guy didn't do that, you know 2256 02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:09.359 what I mean? 2257 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:13.880 So we see we see ed website here. 2258 02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:16.119 Yeah, and he's done a whole chronology. He's got all 2259 02:02:16.159 --> 02:02:19.239 the documents and see I see report, birth certificates, these 2260 02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:21.960 kind of things. He documents a lot of things here, 2261 02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:24.520 putting in a lot of places that would tend to 2262 02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:27.840 imply that he is part of these very high profile murders. 2263 02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:30.319 But they are high profile murders because of his operation 2264 02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:33.399 Gladio satanic murdering coolby squeers. 2265 02:02:33.840 --> 02:02:36.359 Yeah, that's why. 2266 02:02:36.199 --> 02:02:42.159 They're They're intentionally high profile. Right. 2267 02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:47.520 This This is absolutely mind boggling. 2268 02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:50.560 Just just so you know, I'm not making up tails 2269 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.119 man again. This he's this dude's taking a lot of heat. 2270 02:02:53.159 --> 02:02:55.119 And I got a lot of respect for John Cameron, 2271 02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:57.279 not the least of which is uh, he brought that 2272 02:02:57.760 --> 02:03:02.159 kid diddling, homicidal cannibal, realistic, psychopathic serial killer that I 2273 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:04.399 can face to face within two thousand and one and 2274 02:03:04.600 --> 02:03:06.279 may or may not have served me a human meatburger 2275 02:03:06.319 --> 02:03:09.319 at the local Hardy's in two thousand, Nathaniel bar Jona. 2276 02:03:09.439 --> 02:03:11.079 He brought him the justice. And that's what I'm saying. 2277 02:03:11.079 --> 02:03:12.880 This was a legit detective. He's got a good hit, 2278 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.600 you know, legitimate history. He's not you know, while his 2279 02:03:15.640 --> 02:03:17.199 claims do seem kind of wild, and I think he 2280 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.680 doesn't quite maybe not understand the occult in this network 2281 02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:21.680 we're trying to describe. I don't think he quite has 2282 02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:24.000 the experience or knowledge of that necessarily too, you know, 2283 02:03:24.159 --> 02:03:26.439 for the proper context. I'm not saying he's wrong or 2284 02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:28.720 I'm better. I'm just saying, like, I just want to 2285 02:03:28.800 --> 02:03:31.560 provide that context and his claims make a lot more sense. 2286 02:03:33.119 --> 02:03:34.800 Yes, sure, sure they do. 2287 02:03:35.600 --> 02:03:38.399 This is July of nineteen seventy nine. That's the Captain 2288 02:03:38.439 --> 02:03:41.840 of Atlanta p D. Right, and you know they're they're all, 2289 02:03:41.960 --> 02:03:43.600 you know, almost they're not hugging, but they're right next 2290 02:03:43.600 --> 02:03:45.319 to each other. This is the guy that arrested ed 2291 02:03:45.359 --> 02:03:47.680 in Atlanta in January of sixty two, when he was 2292 02:03:47.680 --> 02:03:49.600 the number one most wanted man in America. 2293 02:03:50.960 --> 02:03:54.960 The captain says that the Bradley and Ed are the 2294 02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:56.439 best of friends. 2295 02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:03.680 Yep, they used to write each other, Oh my God. 2296 02:04:02.840 --> 02:04:05.359 This is this is when the's we know he's in 2297 02:04:05.359 --> 02:04:08.279 Atlanta when the murders start. Three years later, we know 2298 02:04:08.439 --> 02:04:11.319 he had a marry out a police sergeanty reform Sesspool. 2299 02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:17.479 This is a cesspool, JJ, We're living in a cess pool. 2300 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:18.319 Wow. 2301 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:20.279 That's why I like to call it a horror, a 2302 02:04:20.520 --> 02:04:23.199 horror side show of you know, circus, kind of side 2303 02:04:23.199 --> 02:04:26.239 show of smoking mirrors. Right, because while he's the most 2304 02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:29.880 wanted man in America, it seems he was an operative 2305 02:04:29.960 --> 02:04:32.800 of the CIA, operating under the psychiatrist name of doctor 2306 02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.159 James Garfield Langley, an identity he used to infiltrate many 2307 02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:38.319 people's lives and commit a lot of murders. 2308 02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:41.840 What the fuck? 2309 02:04:42.560 --> 02:04:45.840 Yep, I'm telling you. I know we've gone pretty long here. 2310 02:04:45.880 --> 02:04:47.159 We didn't really get into Ed. But if I may 2311 02:04:47.239 --> 02:04:50.600 introduce you to Ed Edwards, ma'am, and we'll see on 2312 02:04:50.680 --> 02:04:53.279 this clip how diabolical this man may be. In this show. 2313 02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:57.279 To tell the truth, he convinces half the all star 2314 02:04:57.479 --> 02:05:00.560 actor panel here right, this is nineteen seventy two that 2315 02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:03.399 he is a metamorphosized criminal because he just wrote a 2316 02:05:03.399 --> 02:05:06.640 book called Metamorphosis of a Criminal, started his own fake 2317 02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:10.880 publishing company printed the book, toured America one thousand plus 2318 02:05:10.920 --> 02:05:15.359 media appearances, radio and TV stations with that book in 2319 02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.600 apparently American folks the entire time. 2320 02:05:23.439 --> 02:05:29.039 At number one, number two, and number three, as everybody 2321 02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:31.920 got the ballot mark. I've got my ballot mark, last 2322 02:05:31.960 --> 02:05:34.239 two venues. You got to start, I gotta start. I 2323 02:05:34.279 --> 02:05:36.960 tell you what I'm going to do. Gary, Yep, it's 2324 02:05:37.119 --> 02:05:40.479 just like the producers of this show to get a young, 2325 02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:45.399 all American looking boy like number three with a prison record, 2326 02:05:45.399 --> 02:05:47.000 the most unlikely looking. 2327 02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:47.319 One up there. 2328 02:05:47.760 --> 02:05:49.560 And that's why I voted for all right, think you 2329 02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:51.079 got a three show and never going to go kiddy? 2330 02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:53.399 Well, I agree with you, and I think number two 2331 02:05:53.439 --> 02:05:58.159 is marvelous. Oh, I voted for number one. 2332 02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:02.239 Nothing all ding for number one. Nice struggle. I found 2333 02:06:02.279 --> 02:06:05.119 that the number two did not know what officiated. In fact, 2334 02:06:05.119 --> 02:06:06.439 there's a new man in prison, but both. 2335 02:06:06.279 --> 02:06:07.000 One and three knew that. 2336 02:06:07.000 --> 02:06:09.960 However, number three said a guard helped him rehabilitate himself. 2337 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:12.239 A number one said he rehabilitated himself once he got out. 2338 02:06:12.399 --> 02:06:14.119 And that sounds closer to reality to me. So I 2339 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:14.960 voted for number one. 2340 02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:18.640 Pair of Well, number two said it was practly the 2341 02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:20.039 same thing as a new man. And I think number 2342 02:06:20.079 --> 02:06:22.000 two looks terrific to be a criminal. He looks so tough. 2343 02:06:22.239 --> 02:06:25.159 But I always feel, my dear, that it's the one. 2344 02:06:25.159 --> 02:06:26.640 You wouldn't get pool by some of that number two. 2345 02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:28.319 But number three you trussed with your life. So I voted. 2346 02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:32.359 I have a variety of logics. We have arrived at 2347 02:06:32.359 --> 02:06:34.560 the following conclusion. A pair of twos on each end. 2348 02:06:34.600 --> 02:06:37.399 The volts all and well the real Edwards please stand 2349 02:06:37.479 --> 02:06:50.760 up in it good fine dots number one third, what 2350 02:06:50.840 --> 02:06:51.399 is your real name? 2351 02:06:51.479 --> 02:06:53.560 Viason? What do you my name? Isn't that where rats with? 2352 02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:56.279 Our phrase comes from that Eminem so famous for her 2353 02:06:56.319 --> 02:06:58.439 name with the real Eminem please say it? 2354 02:06:58.640 --> 02:07:01.279 Please stand up with the real slim shady please. 2355 02:07:01.439 --> 02:07:03.319 Yeah, yeah, there we go. I'm not Eminem family. 2356 02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:05.319 Yeah you're good. 2357 02:07:05.359 --> 02:07:07.319 But that is where that I didn't know that's where 2358 02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:08.800 that came from. It just kind of weird. 2359 02:07:10.399 --> 02:07:10.560 Too. 2360 02:07:11.479 --> 02:07:15.319 So this is the real life serial killer on a 2361 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:16.760 game show. 2362 02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:19.119 Yeah, he answered. So they answer a bunch of questions 2363 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:22.319 and you got to convince the actor panel has to, 2364 02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:24.439 you know, the Hollywood panel there has to guess who's 2365 02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:27.079 telling the truth. And Ed ed fool's two of them. 2366 02:07:27.119 --> 02:07:29.199 That lady though at the end that she she nails 2367 02:07:29.199 --> 02:07:31.960 it perfectly. It's just the producers would put an all 2368 02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:34.399 American looking boy to the c view. And that's how 2369 02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:38.960 Ed murder infiltrated everyone's lives through fake credentials as a psychiatrist, 2370 02:07:39.159 --> 02:07:42.279 doctor James Garfield Blankley that he got issued in Key West, Florida, 2371 02:07:42.359 --> 02:07:45.239 November of nineteen fifty five, with the same time the 2372 02:07:45.239 --> 02:07:47.800 CIA was there with Castro applauding the overtake of Cuba, 2373 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:51.039 overthrow of Cuban government of Batista, and Ed has those 2374 02:07:51.039 --> 02:07:54.000 same credentials after a three year stint for robbery in 2375 02:07:54.039 --> 02:07:57.279 Deer Lodge Prison, Montana, when he gets arrested in November 2376 02:07:57.319 --> 02:08:00.239 of nineteen sixty, it becomes the number one most want 2377 02:08:00.239 --> 02:08:02.239 a man in americafter escape in that port and prison 2378 02:08:02.279 --> 02:08:05.039 at the levers Lane murder. So this dude by all 2379 02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:07.199 means I again, I think John Cameron gets a lot 2380 02:08:07.239 --> 02:08:08.680 of heat because he says a lot of things that 2381 02:08:08.720 --> 02:08:10.880 folks don't want to believe that a network of these 2382 02:08:10.920 --> 02:08:13.199 assassins could exist, and Ed might be part of him. Again, 2383 02:08:13.239 --> 02:08:16.039 that's my context of his theory because you look at 2384 02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:18.720 all of the subject claims, and well Ed is prolific. 2385 02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:21.159 It seems like Ed might be the bubonic plague. But 2386 02:08:21.319 --> 02:08:23.960 what I'm saying is the hand of death cult is 2387 02:08:24.039 --> 02:08:26.000 the Mubonic is the modern day Bubona. 2388 02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:30.880 If you will, how these assholes both ended up on 2389 02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:33.720 TV shows, just. 2390 02:08:35.239 --> 02:08:38.199 Mind. Let's listen to Ed real quick. Explain how he's 2391 02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:41.640 a reform criminal again. He's murdering folks at this time. 2392 02:08:41.680 --> 02:08:44.600 Apparently it's your reaction in your neighborhood when you came 2393 02:08:44.600 --> 02:08:47.399 out of the reformatory the first time, were you Were 2394 02:08:47.399 --> 02:08:50.239 you put down by your by your your fellow citizens 2395 02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:50.960 or do they. 2396 02:08:50.920 --> 02:08:51.439 Look up to you? 2397 02:08:51.880 --> 02:08:52.039 You know? 2398 02:08:52.079 --> 02:08:54.800 When I was released from them, they looked up to me. 2399 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:56.760 And this motivated me to. 2400 02:08:56.920 --> 02:08:58.800 Charles Manson the first time he got out of reformatory 2401 02:08:58.800 --> 02:09:00.119 because he grew up in an orphan as much like 2402 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:02.760 Charles Manson Catholic warp from just as well. But he 2403 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:06.279 I was speaking while I'm on that same note. Otis 2404 02:09:06.399 --> 02:09:12.840 tool otis tool otis tool follows Charles Manson from a 2405 02:09:12.920 --> 02:09:16.399 Virginia prison to that same Chilicothe reformatory. So him and 2406 02:09:16.520 --> 02:09:18.439 Charles are there in fifty teen and fifty three old 2407 02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:23.159 chucky boy there and then Toole and Manson are there 2408 02:09:23.319 --> 02:09:25.600 in like fifty four and fifty. I think Manson leaves 2409 02:09:25.640 --> 02:09:27.399 in fifty five and Tool gets the right for release. 2410 02:09:27.720 --> 02:09:30.720 But Tool was at that Virginia prison of a reformatory 2411 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:33.239 for young boys that Manson came to. Manson aged out 2412 02:09:33.279 --> 02:09:36.000 and they shipped to the Federal Pennant Reformatory in Chilicothe. 2413 02:09:36.840 --> 02:09:39.399 But Toole follows that that same pathway now that we're 2414 02:09:39.399 --> 02:09:41.359 thinking about it. But he when he talks about the 2415 02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:43.279 first time he got out of prison, he mixes them together. 2416 02:09:43.319 --> 02:09:45.520 He shit coats a lot of things here. But he's 2417 02:09:45.560 --> 02:09:47.600 describing how he got out eleven Worth and he lives 2418 02:09:47.600 --> 02:09:51.720 serving in Elevenworth with Jimmy Hoffa, with Whitey Bolger. You 2419 02:09:51.800 --> 02:09:54.439 know this, this dude, this dude was connected. 2420 02:09:57.119 --> 02:09:59.039 Go on to bigger things because this is why I 2421 02:09:59.159 --> 02:10:01.079 was out there committing the I was for the recognition. 2422 02:10:02.079 --> 02:10:03.680 And this happens because I think people think it's a 2423 02:10:03.680 --> 02:10:04.359 big shot thing to do. 2424 02:10:04.520 --> 02:10:04.680 Huh. 2425 02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:06.000 Yes, this is the Uh. 2426 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:08.800 The more trouble you get into, the bigger you are 2427 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:09.359 in their eyes. 2428 02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:10.920 Well, I want to tell you look like a pretty 2429 02:10:10.960 --> 02:10:11.760 big man from over here. 2430 02:10:13.319 --> 02:10:15.439 That's the most important takeaway right there. And I'll put 2431 02:10:15.439 --> 02:10:17.039 the link for all that in the show notes and 2432 02:10:17.199 --> 02:10:19.600 check it out. And we love to have you back 2433 02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:21.880 on Operation gcd Man to discuss some more of these things. 2434 02:10:21.920 --> 02:10:24.039 I figure we bring in for a close here this evening, 2435 02:10:24.199 --> 02:10:26.960 but you know, ed's a you know that it could 2436 02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:28.359 take a while, so I don't want to. I want 2437 02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:30.319 to open up the d worm can of worms at 2438 02:10:30.359 --> 02:10:34.319 this point in time. But we got in the future. 2439 02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:38.039 Yeah, No, I And what I've learned about him already. 2440 02:10:38.119 --> 02:10:41.039 I can't wait to tell my husband some of the 2441 02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:43.680 stuff that we talked about tonight. I mean, it's just. 2442 02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:47.840 It's cruise around that cold case camera in site for 2443 02:10:47.880 --> 02:10:49.520 a bit, just get familiar rise with some of ads 2444 02:10:49.560 --> 02:10:52.079 activities and what he's done. That psychiatrist report from that 2445 02:10:52.239 --> 02:10:56.239 that that Parmadale orphanage when he was almost thirteen calling 2446 02:10:56.319 --> 02:10:59.439 him a psychopath and sato masochistic and the one thirty IQ, 2447 02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:03.000 well that's on that website again. Cameron. Again, he does 2448 02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:04.159 a lot of claims, but he's got a lot of 2449 02:11:04.159 --> 02:11:05.840 evidence too, and he puts it in a lot of 2450 02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:07.760 these places and the proximity of these events and you 2451 02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:10.119 just have to say, like, well, there's something else going 2452 02:11:10.159 --> 02:11:10.439 on here. 2453 02:11:11.439 --> 02:11:13.319 Yeah, I mean, I think people get mad when you 2454 02:11:13.439 --> 02:11:16.560 speculate about things. But the problem is, if you have evidence, 2455 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:19.319 the speculations are aren't too far off. 2456 02:11:20.439 --> 02:11:22.520 And that's yeah. And again he does a lot of that. 2457 02:11:22.560 --> 02:11:24.560 And again I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying 2458 02:11:24.600 --> 02:11:27.000 I think there's a slightly larger context to it, within 2459 02:11:27.039 --> 02:11:30.239 the cult nature of the satanic murdering kind of varieties 2460 02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:33.520 handed death style. Right. Again, tool would follow in these 2461 02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:35.640 same footsteps as Manson and Ed. They're in the same 2462 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:38.880 locations in that reformatory in Chila Coffee on a mound, 2463 02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.479 built on a mound, by the way, and you know, 2464 02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:45.000 again Ed, they all there's just so many, so many 2465 02:11:45.119 --> 02:11:47.720 salient characteristics of each one of these characters, aside from 2466 02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:50.279 him being friends where friend of mees like him and 2467 02:11:50.600 --> 02:11:53.560 Ed and that Frank Drymen guy. And again, next time 2468 02:11:53.640 --> 02:11:55.640 we convene on these matters, Man, we'll talk ed in 2469 02:11:55.680 --> 02:12:00.720 Frank Dryman because that Drymen character knows at John Cameron's 2470 02:12:00.720 --> 02:12:02.760 book says it's the serial killer you never heard of. 2471 02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:06.159 In regards to Ed Edwards, I ain't no one heard 2472 02:12:06.199 --> 02:12:07.680 of Frank Ryman. I didn't hear from. 2473 02:12:10.119 --> 02:12:15.560 Never heard of that asshole ever, right, so too. 2474 02:12:16.680 --> 02:12:19.560 Yeah, so that these are the matters that we we 2475 02:12:19.840 --> 02:12:23.680 I mean, are there more diabolical, psychopathic, satanic, you know, 2476 02:12:23.800 --> 02:12:27.359 serial killers that we don't know about besides Frank Ryman. 2477 02:12:28.760 --> 02:12:35.479 One hundred definitely, I mean absolutely absolutely. Somebody said Richard 2478 02:12:35.600 --> 02:12:39.319 Ramirez was on the Maury Show. I'm hoping that's a joke. 2479 02:12:40.439 --> 02:12:43.560 Well, they show him on, Uh, I don't know. I know, 2480 02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:45.760 he doesn't appearance on the Heraldo interview. 2481 02:12:45.760 --> 02:12:48.920 I think at one point in time Richard Ramirez. 2482 02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:54.479 Uh, Well they show him in that satanic Heraldo primetime 2483 02:12:54.520 --> 02:12:57.159 special that was used to kind of deter everybody from 2484 02:12:57.479 --> 02:12:59.720 to help aid in the panic. But even though they 2485 02:12:59.720 --> 02:13:03.079 show actual evidence of satanic murder, satanic ritual abuse, the 2486 02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:05.880 detectives reports the killers, et cetera, but you know, there's 2487 02:13:05.960 --> 02:13:08.680 no evidence. That's what Michael Kino says, These aren't the 2488 02:13:08.720 --> 02:13:14.239 Satanists you're looking for. So this is the book, this 2489 02:13:14.399 --> 02:13:18.159 is his first book. It's me Edward Wyne Edwards, the 2490 02:13:18.239 --> 02:13:20.119 serial Killer you Never heard of? And I call my 2491 02:13:20.239 --> 02:13:23.359 case study Edward Wynn Edwards, the serial killer you have 2492 02:13:23.520 --> 02:13:26.920 probably probably never heard of and uh in the case 2493 02:13:26.960 --> 02:13:29.479 study of Ed Edwards. Now he did a follow up book. 2494 02:13:29.640 --> 02:13:34.319 I'm just now starting to read this one, John Cameron did. 2495 02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:36.640 This came out in twenty eighteen. I didn't read this 2496 02:13:36.720 --> 02:13:38.560 one yet. I just I just cracked that one open. 2497 02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:41.119 Now Ed's daughter, the one that turned him in through 2498 02:13:41.159 --> 02:13:44.680 that television program she watched. She just published a book 2499 02:13:44.720 --> 02:13:46.680 in March. I haven't yet to read that one, but 2500 02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:52.000 that's on my list. Interesting character. 2501 02:13:52.760 --> 02:13:54.119 She published a book as well. 2502 02:13:55.079 --> 02:13:59.159 Yeah, I haven't I've read it yet. Well, she hates 2503 02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:02.199 John Cameron. That's interesting because I knew about the book 2504 02:14:02.239 --> 02:14:04.319 for his release, because when I started communicating with Cameron, 2505 02:14:04.399 --> 02:14:06.239 he's like, oh, it's about time I probably should do 2506 02:14:06.239 --> 02:14:08.840 some interviews. Plus Ed's daughters is about to publish a book. 2507 02:14:08.880 --> 02:14:10.760 I was like, oh shit, And like two months later 2508 02:14:10.800 --> 02:14:12.439 it came out and she's been doing a bunch of 2509 02:14:12.520 --> 02:14:15.479 interviews and he's you know, I'm not talking shit against 2510 02:14:15.479 --> 02:14:17.039 the guy. And I got a respect for his work, 2511 02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:19.640 not only with Nathaniel Barr Jonah, the guy that served 2512 02:14:19.640 --> 02:14:22.399 me human meatburger probably at the parties in Great Falls, 2513 02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:25.279 but also because that you know that kid's Again, they 2514 02:14:25.359 --> 02:14:28.479 unleashed Nathaniel Barr Jonah on a small town of Great Falls, 2515 02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:30.680 and he did not just murder that one ten year 2516 02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:33.359 old boy, John Cameron. They had other people. Again, there's 2517 02:14:33.399 --> 02:14:35.039 a lot of town for her around that whole case. 2518 02:14:35.079 --> 02:14:38.279 But nonetheless, he's done a good study on Edward. Why 2519 02:14:38.399 --> 02:14:40.920 Edward's right? And again I'm not I'm not subscribing to 2520 02:14:40.920 --> 02:14:42.520 all of his theories and stuff. I'm just saying that 2521 02:14:42.560 --> 02:14:44.640 in the proper context, if you understand Ed's and the 2522 02:14:44.680 --> 02:14:47.760 cult and a death style kind of general, dude makes 2523 02:14:47.800 --> 02:14:49.920 a lot more sense, right. 2524 02:14:51.239 --> 02:14:56.800 Damn interesting. Fuck the connections are if you can get 2525 02:14:56.920 --> 02:14:58.840 if you can get him on for an interview, that 2526 02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:01.239 would be a very worthwhile conversation. 2527 02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:03.520 I'm working it. I'm working on it. I did have 2528 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:05.760 to apologize first because the first time I lived in 2529 02:15:05.840 --> 02:15:07.920 in ninety nine and two thousand, Great Falls, when he 2530 02:15:08.039 --> 02:15:11.359 was a homicide detective here in the local PD was 2531 02:15:11.399 --> 02:15:14.039 a routine patrol stop for the Great Falls Police Department. 2532 02:15:14.079 --> 02:15:15.520 We used to I mean, we used to party pretty 2533 02:15:15.560 --> 02:15:18.840 wild there. So I had apologized for that first and foremost, 2534 02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:21.680 so I do apologize for causing you guys to do 2535 02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:24.600 a routine stop patrol every night at our house because 2536 02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:26.319 and he knew exactly what I was talking about. I'm 2537 02:15:26.359 --> 02:15:29.079 sure because again it's a small town, and you know, 2538 02:15:29.680 --> 02:15:30.159 we made. 2539 02:15:30.000 --> 02:15:30.600 A lot of rights. 2540 02:15:32.399 --> 02:15:34.960 He's deally a nice guy. Heem he seemed he seems 2541 02:15:35.039 --> 02:15:37.199 deterred from something. I think he's got a lot of heat. 2542 02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:40.600 So again he got fired from the parole board. So 2543 02:15:40.760 --> 02:15:43.520 here's here's a quick rundown of how John Cameron came 2544 02:15:43.560 --> 02:15:46.000 about with these matters. Like I said, Frank Triman got 2545 02:15:46.079 --> 02:15:48.439 dumped on that role in the same prison that adding 2546 02:15:48.560 --> 02:15:50.039 him were in back in the fifties and sixty in 2547 02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:53.359 the late fifties, right, early sixties, the Deer Lodge Prison. 2548 02:15:53.439 --> 02:15:55.920 That's where John Cameron was working after he retired from 2549 02:15:55.960 --> 02:15:58.520 Great Falls. Right. He was the investigator for the parole board. 2550 02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:01.279 So if someone's up for parole, he does a background 2551 02:16:01.319 --> 02:16:04.159 investigation and provides a recommendation to the board. They don't 2552 02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:06.159 have to follow it, but that is what his job was. 2553 02:16:06.640 --> 02:16:10.960 He gets a Homeland Security directive or law enforcement memorandum 2554 02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:15.479 in April twenty ten. Right, I'm sorry disregard August of 2555 02:16:16.840 --> 02:16:19.880 August August two thousand and nine, August two thousand and nine. 2556 02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:22.800 That's when ed gets busted first, right, and they say, look, 2557 02:16:22.840 --> 02:16:25.560 this dude just admitted to all like five murders in 2558 02:16:25.640 --> 02:16:27.279 one week, you know what I mean. Because he wanted 2559 02:16:27.279 --> 02:16:28.720 to get the death penalty. He kept admitting to more 2560 02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:30.880 murders until that he could get the death penalty, right, 2561 02:16:30.960 --> 02:16:34.159 so became a whole circus. He tested positive on the 2562 02:16:34.239 --> 02:16:36.840 DNA from the seamen on them jeans from eighty. He 2563 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:38.879 didn't get the death penalty because there was no death 2564 02:16:38.920 --> 02:16:41.600 penalty in wisconsininating So then he admits to a lover's 2565 02:16:41.639 --> 02:16:45.239 Lane homicide in Ohio in nineteen seventy seven. Turns out 2566 02:16:45.399 --> 02:16:47.760 there was no death penalty in seventy seven in Ohio. 2567 02:16:48.239 --> 02:16:50.280 So then he admits to a nineteen ninety six murder 2568 02:16:50.360 --> 02:16:53.719 of a man he essentially adopts, he doesn't legally adopt him. 2569 02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:56.159 He has a nineteen year old man changed his name 2570 02:16:56.200 --> 02:16:58.959 to Danny Boy Edwards, has that man joined the army, 2571 02:16:59.079 --> 02:17:01.639 has that man go wall after boot camp, has that 2572 02:17:01.760 --> 02:17:03.479 man take out a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 2573 02:17:03.520 --> 02:17:06.000 policy insurance policy. Then he murders the man while he's 2574 02:17:06.000 --> 02:17:08.440 a wall, and then lets him find his body later, 2575 02:17:08.840 --> 02:17:11.600 and he collects the insurance policy. So this is very diabolical. 2576 02:17:11.799 --> 02:17:14.520 The detective in that town is not happy with the 2577 02:17:14.680 --> 02:17:16.879 FBI because when Edwards moved to that town in ninety 2578 02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.959 four and immediately started plotting that man's murder and insurance scam, 2579 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:23.520 the FBI told that department, Hey, if this guy's got 2580 02:17:23.680 --> 02:17:26.079 some information for you, he's a good informant, trust him. 2581 02:17:26.280 --> 02:17:29.520 So ed did operate under those auspices at times, it seems. 2582 02:17:29.920 --> 02:17:33.639 But as far as John Cameron goes, when that Homeland 2583 02:17:33.719 --> 02:17:36.399 Security Director of Law Enforcement memo came out, they sent 2584 02:17:36.440 --> 02:17:38.639 out AD's book and they said, look, this dude is 2585 02:17:38.680 --> 02:17:41.440 just submitting to all these murders lovers lanes specifically, look 2586 02:17:41.479 --> 02:17:44.639 into those. Use this book his metamorphosis of a criminal 2587 02:17:44.680 --> 02:17:47.680 from nineteen seventy two as a guideline to see where 2588 02:17:47.719 --> 02:17:49.760 he was, because he writes in that book all the 2589 02:17:49.840 --> 02:17:52.799 towns he traveled to. Right, He's got stories. It's coded 2590 02:17:52.840 --> 02:17:55.440 if you will, right. And on top of that, and 2591 02:17:55.520 --> 02:17:57.799 again that's that was the initial they told everyone. Look, 2592 02:17:57.840 --> 02:17:59.680 so John Camera's like, oh shit, I'll look. He was 2593 02:17:59.719 --> 02:18:02.280 in Great Falls, robbed his storre in Great Falls on 2594 02:18:02.399 --> 02:18:05.760 January like sixth of nineteen fifty six or something like that, 2595 02:18:05.959 --> 02:18:09.799 or fifty seven anyway, and there's a Lover's Lane murder 2596 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:11.520 that happens on that same day and involves an Air 2597 02:18:11.559 --> 02:18:14.719 Force guy. It's very interesting. And so that John Cameron says, 2598 02:18:14.760 --> 02:18:16.440 oh shit, and then he starts, you know, he starts 2599 02:18:16.520 --> 02:18:18.520 going on after that, and he pulls that nci C 2600 02:18:18.719 --> 02:18:22.040 report and the FBI calls the Montana Parole Board and says, look, 2601 02:18:22.079 --> 02:18:25.719 you guys, fire this dude to We're charging him for 2602 02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:28.479 well whatever, obstruction or something else like that. So he 2603 02:18:28.639 --> 02:18:31.079 literally gets fired for following a Homeland Security So that 2604 02:18:31.120 --> 02:18:34.319 breaks the question, why is Homeland Security's sending out a 2605 02:18:34.399 --> 02:18:37.760 memorandum on Edwards telling all law enforcement agencies a look 2606 02:18:37.799 --> 02:18:39.639 in their jurisdictions of these dates that he was there 2607 02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:42.399 in lovers Lane murders? And why is the FBI running 2608 02:18:42.399 --> 02:18:52.319 cover ups on that? That freeze up? Am I back, 2609 02:18:52.959 --> 02:18:57.600 am I am, I back my back. I don't know 2610 02:18:57.639 --> 02:18:59.639 who froze up. I thought we might have been both frozen. 2611 02:19:00.879 --> 02:19:04.879 Yeah, little thing started spinning. But that's too much JJ. 2612 02:19:05.280 --> 02:19:07.959 And then chill this ChIL Cothee reformatory. I'm working on 2613 02:19:08.559 --> 02:19:10.399 looking a matters closer, but it seems to be a 2614 02:19:10.440 --> 02:19:12.719 hot bet of these maybe these CIA mind constro all 2615 02:19:12.799 --> 02:19:14.760 kind of programers with this chaos stuff. So you got 2616 02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:17.680 Charles Manson gets there a few months after ED, and 2617 02:19:17.760 --> 02:19:20.000 then otis tool on the back end, and then ten 2618 02:19:20.079 --> 02:19:24.559 years later we see Thomas Eugene Creech before he goes 2619 02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:27.079 and mimics all the activities that ED did and Idaho, 2620 02:19:27.159 --> 02:19:29.760 including Mary, a seventeen year old in Idaho Falls, Idaho. 2621 02:19:30.440 --> 02:19:32.799 But they both did that ten years apart. But they 2622 02:19:32.879 --> 02:19:35.600 come from this Chilicothee Reformatory which is built on a mountain. 2623 02:19:35.639 --> 02:19:38.440 It's really not far from my from my my trailer. 2624 02:19:39.879 --> 02:19:43.879 Fuck yeah, live in a van down by the river 2625 02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:46.319 mountain down by the river and some mounds and some 2626 02:19:46.440 --> 02:19:55.239 scoop spooky places apparently you know what I mean? In 2627 02:19:55.360 --> 02:19:57.200 my back are you? Are you frozen or my frozen? 2628 02:19:57.200 --> 02:20:01.920 Who's frozen? What's frozen? I'm I think you were frozen. 2629 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:06.120 I think you were frozen that time. Sorry, you're good. 2630 02:20:06.959 --> 02:20:10.479 I said, Uh, what's yours hodiac sign? 2631 02:20:12.520 --> 02:20:14.600 Oh? What is yours? 2632 02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:16.120 Your cancer? 2633 02:20:17.680 --> 02:20:17.799 Hm? 2634 02:20:19.559 --> 02:20:23.719 I would have pegged you as a more analytical because 2635 02:20:23.840 --> 02:20:26.200 the way your brain works sometimes I feel like I'm 2636 02:20:26.280 --> 02:20:27.840 not smart enough to keep up with you. 2637 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:31.559 Sometimes, Oh, I would dispute that. Man, I've learned a 2638 02:20:31.600 --> 02:20:33.879 lot just in this conversation, as I do every conversations, 2639 02:20:33.879 --> 02:20:35.600 and I appreciate you joining me for the conversation and 2640 02:20:35.760 --> 02:20:38.559 a gay little GCD. I have no fewer than six 2641 02:20:38.719 --> 02:20:41.879 six tabs open from this conversation just tonight. So when 2642 02:20:42.319 --> 02:20:44.159 every time we discuss killers, I learned a lot more. 2643 02:20:44.479 --> 02:20:46.360 And I do. I appreciate the kind words, man, but 2644 02:20:46.399 --> 02:20:48.559 I do. I do learn a lot from these conversations 2645 02:20:48.600 --> 02:20:48.920 as well. 2646 02:20:49.680 --> 02:20:49.799 Well. 2647 02:20:49.840 --> 02:20:53.760 I appreciate that because you know, sometimes I'm like researching 2648 02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:56.840 stuff and I'm like, JJ probably already knows all this shit, 2649 02:20:57.399 --> 02:21:01.639 because once you get on a topic, you can fucking 2650 02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.799 research the dog shit out of it. I love it. 2651 02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:07.719 Again. I appreciate your minds as well in these matters, 2652 02:21:07.760 --> 02:21:09.959 and I think we're coming to some very similar conclusions, 2653 02:21:10.000 --> 02:21:11.920 drawing a lot of small circles around these things. And 2654 02:21:12.440 --> 02:21:15.280 on that note, Joanah, I appreciate that, sir. If anyone's 2655 02:21:15.319 --> 02:21:18.920 familiar with the Hopkinsville Goblin incident, yeah, that was investigated 2656 02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:22.239 by Sidney Gottlieb and the MK Ulture program or did 2657 02:21:22.239 --> 02:21:24.920 they orchestrate that through some sort of mind control, hypnosis 2658 02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:31.719 and psychedelic experience. She said, these things are not that 2659 02:21:31.840 --> 02:21:35.079 far apart, these aliens and the Satanist activities and mind 2660 02:21:35.120 --> 02:21:36.040 control stuff. 2661 02:21:35.840 --> 02:21:41.280 Right, oh right, No, definitely, it's all connected. 2662 02:21:42.879 --> 02:21:45.520 Yes, I appreciate, appreciate the commentary from the chat and 2663 02:21:45.559 --> 02:21:48.520 I appreciate the chats. Join us here tonight as well 2664 02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:52.000 to get little GCD and Julia, ma'am if you would 2665 02:21:52.079 --> 02:21:53.959 like to offer some closing statements, will bring this thing 2666 02:21:54.000 --> 02:21:54.639 in for landing. 2667 02:21:56.040 --> 02:21:59.680 Yeah, I mean with I think the I have a 2668 02:21:59.760 --> 02:22:03.479 lot more to learn about Edouly. 2669 02:22:03.959 --> 02:22:07.399 Wh what's the conversation. We'll talk some ed stuff, We'll 2670 02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:10.799 talk some Draymond stuff, because again, camera documents in his book, 2671 02:22:10.920 --> 02:22:13.120 some of the stuff from that Deer Lodge prison files 2672 02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:15.319 of how they were feuding Satanists, and he makes a 2673 02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:18.239 strong argument that ed Zodiac activities in the Man in 2674 02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:20.879 Thehood on Barriessa, when I would argue as a snuff film, 2675 02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:24.360 ritualistic homicide and a hit, a hit of Brian Hartnell, 2676 02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:26.959 who was a member of the Society the Cincinnati, a 2677 02:22:27.079 --> 02:22:28.719 very prominent predatory member. 2678 02:22:29.360 --> 02:22:31.399 That's what I'm saying I feel like I have a 2679 02:22:31.479 --> 02:22:35.040 lot to still learn about him. But I will say, 2680 02:22:35.200 --> 02:22:38.399 you know, if it's the narrative, just like with government 2681 02:22:38.559 --> 02:22:41.319 Cheese and Belle Beefer and like. 2682 02:22:41.399 --> 02:22:48.399 All these bell Beefer with some government cheese, I. 2683 02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:53.399 Mean, they they all, they all fit the program, and 2684 02:22:55.680 --> 02:22:59.239 you know it's just like, how do they end up 2685 02:22:59.319 --> 02:23:03.399 on TV shows? How did they end up murdering Dean 2686 02:23:03.520 --> 02:23:10.399 Martin's goddaughter? Yeah, ying people on the Rockefeller Estate? How 2687 02:23:10.479 --> 02:23:13.120 do they? But you know, I always learned a lot 2688 02:23:13.239 --> 02:23:15.159 when I when I come on these shows, because I 2689 02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:17.239 feel like we both have a different energy and we 2690 02:23:17.840 --> 02:23:20.680 mesh really well. I'm not gonna lie it was on 2691 02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:21.639 fire tonight. 2692 02:23:21.920 --> 02:23:24.680 You know, I'm gonna lot of you. That's when that's 2693 02:23:24.719 --> 02:23:30.360 when rays conversation we did recently with myself, you Colby, 2694 02:23:30.479 --> 02:23:34.719 and and Lola. Lola I done forgot her name and 2695 02:23:34.719 --> 02:23:36.360 she's the one brought She's the one who brought brought 2696 02:23:36.399 --> 02:23:38.239 her all that to my attention, and you're then had 2697 02:23:38.280 --> 02:23:41.319 that conversation saying I do apologize on that one. But yeah, 2698 02:23:41.520 --> 02:23:43.600 that's now I've been looking, We've been sharing notes. I'm 2699 02:23:43.600 --> 02:23:46.360 even terrible more un horrible names. There's a lot of 2700 02:23:46.399 --> 02:23:48.600 phil and sus in my life, Julie, I'm not gonna 2701 02:23:48.600 --> 02:23:50.879 lie to you say, because I forget someone's name. The 2702 02:23:51.000 --> 02:23:53.040 males are Philled and the females are Sue. But I 2703 02:23:53.079 --> 02:23:54.559 didn't want to call her Sue because I knew she 2704 02:23:54.600 --> 02:23:58.000 wasn't a Phil. But my point being is that there's 2705 02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:00.920 so much similarities everything we're talking about, the maschinations and 2706 02:24:01.000 --> 02:24:03.680 orchestrations of events that go around that cult, regardless of 2707 02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:05.639 that dude's JJ brin or not, which he might be. 2708 02:24:07.079 --> 02:24:10.120 And you know, the former process leader and assistance to 2709 02:24:10.200 --> 02:24:14.079 a national security advisor from multiple presidents, Henry Kissinger's right 2710 02:24:14.159 --> 02:24:17.079 hand man, Major Brent Scowcroft. So when we're talking about 2711 02:24:17.079 --> 02:24:21.639 all these matters national security, right, we see, you know, 2712 02:24:21.760 --> 02:24:25.440 all these things around cocaine bob right, cocaine bobbing gang. 2713 02:24:25.680 --> 02:24:29.280 So Henry Kissinger and the Rockefellers because that's who, that's 2714 02:24:29.280 --> 02:24:32.079 who made Kissinger and Brazenski in this whole national security 2715 02:24:32.120 --> 02:24:36.319 complex because homeboy Nelson was in there from moment one, 2716 02:24:36.600 --> 02:24:39.319 right from one on. These Nazi matters and infiltration, and 2717 02:24:39.360 --> 02:24:42.600 it is these Nazi matters of infiltration, not just the 2718 02:24:42.719 --> 02:24:45.319 Nazi Satanists, they come very much later or part of 2719 02:24:45.360 --> 02:24:48.760 the same conversation, obviously, But it is these things in 2720 02:24:48.799 --> 02:24:51.920 the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven, which eradicated 2721 02:24:52.040 --> 02:24:54.319 free speech in America, we have in a first amendment 2722 02:24:54.399 --> 02:24:57.559 we haven't since July forty seven. We can't when three 2723 02:24:57.639 --> 02:25:00.360 people can stamp things national security and no one else 2724 02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:01.520 has a fucking clue about it. 2725 02:25:04.200 --> 02:25:08.680 Fucking ay. I mean, that's why. That's why when you say, 2726 02:25:08.760 --> 02:25:15.840 you know this guy, that Cameron Buffalo, the guy who 2727 02:25:15.879 --> 02:25:19.719 wrote the book, what's his name, John Cameron, John Cameron. 2728 02:25:19.879 --> 02:25:22.360 You know, you say, like he's gotten a lot of 2729 02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:24.799 heat or he's got a lot of flak or whatever. 2730 02:25:24.879 --> 02:25:27.159 But it's like, to be honest with you, we have 2731 02:25:27.360 --> 02:25:30.639 to put the puzzle pieces together for ourselves. Like they're 2732 02:25:30.680 --> 02:25:34.520 not fair to say like, oh, well, this person didn't 2733 02:25:34.559 --> 02:25:37.520 have one hundred percent of the information correct. So I'm 2734 02:25:37.559 --> 02:25:40.399 saying that, it's like we do the best we can 2735 02:25:40.559 --> 02:25:42.520 because is hidden. 2736 02:25:42.879 --> 02:25:44.959 You know, now you're spot on. That's why I always 2737 02:25:44.959 --> 02:25:46.520 I always repeat the phrase, you know, I don't throw 2738 02:25:46.520 --> 02:25:48.079 the baby out with the bathtub, you know what I mean. 2739 02:25:48.159 --> 02:25:50.360 But when I say that John Cameron is more right 2740 02:25:50.399 --> 02:25:51.719 than he is wrong. I can assure you of that. 2741 02:25:51.840 --> 02:25:55.040 Looking again, he provides it's not. He doesn't do what 2742 02:25:55.159 --> 02:25:57.319 Ted Gunderson. If you met Ted Gunderson, he doesn't do 2743 02:25:57.440 --> 02:25:58.440 what Ted Gunderson does. 2744 02:25:59.079 --> 02:26:01.239 There's sounds of Americans out there by the way. 2745 02:26:01.239 --> 02:26:03.079 I've been shot with a laser beam twice. 2746 02:26:04.159 --> 02:26:07.120 They got old Ted twice with them lasers. So he 2747 02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:10.399 presents evidence, you know, But John Cameron, he's got all 2748 02:26:10.399 --> 02:26:14.159 the f He's got NCIIC records, photographs, documents, birth certificates, 2749 02:26:14.239 --> 02:26:16.719 marriage license. He doesn't have the marriage like. 2750 02:26:16.840 --> 02:26:18.319 That's what I say, though, is like. 2751 02:26:19.719 --> 02:26:21.440 So that's when when he wrote that book in by 2752 02:26:21.479 --> 02:26:23.159 may Real quick manbe when he wrote that book in 2753 02:26:23.200 --> 02:26:25.319 twenty fourteen. What we're doing, I think is more is 2754 02:26:25.479 --> 02:26:28.120 equally as important is carrying on these things of previous 2755 02:26:28.200 --> 02:26:30.159 research that these folks have done and building on top 2756 02:26:30.239 --> 02:26:33.159 of it to find these patterns and understand what's going 2757 02:26:33.200 --> 02:26:36.239 on here, because sometimes later, you know, a later dates, 2758 02:26:36.280 --> 02:26:39.760 you got more information available. For example, I've been able 2759 02:26:39.840 --> 02:26:42.399 to discover that same Idaho falls seventeen year old that 2760 02:26:42.479 --> 02:26:45.840 ad married under two different names, one being doctor James 2761 02:26:45.879 --> 02:26:48.159 Garfield Langley and then went on a Bonnie and Clyde 2762 02:26:48.159 --> 02:26:50.840 style campaign of terror and robbery murder, just like his 2763 02:26:51.520 --> 02:26:54.200 h Thomas Eugene Creached the Satanist would do ten years 2764 02:26:54.280 --> 02:26:56.239 later there in the same Idaho Falls town and start 2765 02:26:56.280 --> 02:26:59.360 the same campaign and terror. Well, these things not only 2766 02:26:59.559 --> 02:27:03.399 you know, not only are they obviously when we see 2767 02:27:03.440 --> 02:27:05.559 these things like that, when we have that foresight to 2768 02:27:05.559 --> 02:27:06.959 look back and see these and that we could see 2769 02:27:07.000 --> 02:27:09.879 the patterns. But when John Cameron wrote that book, he 2770 02:27:09.959 --> 02:27:12.600 didn't have access to what is now Idaho database that 2771 02:27:12.799 --> 02:27:15.200 exhibits two marriage license issued on the same day by 2772 02:27:15.280 --> 02:27:17.440 the same judge and the same stamps and the same people, 2773 02:27:17.920 --> 02:27:21.079 one under doctor James Garfield Langley with a different birth 2774 02:27:21.159 --> 02:27:24.719 date than Edward Wayne Edwards. Ed's got like four names. Again, 2775 02:27:24.760 --> 02:27:27.479 it's on his NCISE report. I highly recommend folks look 2776 02:27:27.479 --> 02:27:29.920 at Cold Case cameraon with an open mind and start 2777 02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:31.159 with that NCIC report. 2778 02:27:32.200 --> 02:27:32.360 Yeah. 2779 02:27:32.399 --> 02:27:33.920 I mean, we do the best we can with the 2780 02:27:34.000 --> 02:27:37.280 information that we have. They obscure so much it's hard 2781 02:27:37.360 --> 02:27:39.399 to be one hundred percent right all the time. That's 2782 02:27:39.440 --> 02:27:41.600 why I always say, like, so what they're not one 2783 02:27:41.680 --> 02:27:44.280 hundred percent right. Nobody's one hundred percent right. They hide 2784 02:27:44.280 --> 02:27:46.680 a lot of shit. It's hard to dig stuff up. 2785 02:27:46.760 --> 02:27:50.440 We got to come to conclusions. We gotta speculate. Sometimes 2786 02:27:50.959 --> 02:27:52.680 it's not like it's like you said. They can just 2787 02:27:52.760 --> 02:27:55.079 stamp a file and then it goes into the archives 2788 02:27:55.159 --> 02:27:59.760 of you know, lost in time and history and we'll 2789 02:27:59.799 --> 02:28:02.040 never know. So we got to do the best we 2790 02:28:02.120 --> 02:28:03.719 can with the information provided. 2791 02:28:06.360 --> 02:28:10.120 Absolutely, absolutely, And he don't don't get wrong. You know, 2792 02:28:10.280 --> 02:28:13.600 folks like laser tag ted here he's shit coating, okase, 2793 02:28:13.760 --> 02:28:16.600 he's shopping coating all the Colby programs. He globs under Franklin, 2794 02:28:16.680 --> 02:28:19.920 he gloves on the McDonald murders, the McMartin scandal, the Presidio, 2795 02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:23.680 the Finders Now, the Common Commonality and all these things. 2796 02:28:23.879 --> 02:28:29.319 Colby's Queer's Michael Keinou, John de Camp and the Franklin scandal. 2797 02:28:29.719 --> 02:28:34.200 Mary's son George Petty also flew it for Air America 2798 02:28:34.280 --> 02:28:37.239 Colby's Queer. So do you see the shit coating by 2799 02:28:37.239 --> 02:28:39.239 a laser I love this clip. 2800 02:28:39.680 --> 02:28:41.799 There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way. 2801 02:28:41.799 --> 02:28:46.079 I've been shot with a laser beat twice. They got 2802 02:28:46.159 --> 02:28:48.959 old Ted twice. Now he ran Cohen tellpro came out 2803 02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:51.520 of the scene He's like, oh, satan Satanists, I've never 2804 02:28:51.600 --> 02:28:54.040 heard of Satanist. Meanwhile, he fucking knew what they were, 2805 02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:56.440 and he shit cot everything and ruined all these situations. 2806 02:28:56.799 --> 02:28:59.719 He infiltrated one of the victim's mothers from the McMartin 2807 02:28:59.760 --> 02:29:04.280 pre school situation. She has nothing nice to say about her. 2808 02:29:04.360 --> 02:29:07.120 I am Jackie mcgauley. She's the one who coordinated the 2809 02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:11.399 archaeological survey and then ted on his website today folks 2810 02:29:11.479 --> 02:29:13.959 can go see he put his own cover page, put 2811 02:29:14.000 --> 02:29:16.440 his own cover page on there, made it his own report, 2812 02:29:16.479 --> 02:29:18.440 and then toured America saying he's the one who did it. 2813 02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:22.000 He had nothing to do with it. He had the opposite. 2814 02:29:22.239 --> 02:29:25.319 He had the opposite thing to do with it. Four 2815 02:29:25.360 --> 02:29:29.440 of the parents, including Jackie mcgauley, her own statements, hired 2816 02:29:29.520 --> 02:29:31.799 that archaeological team from UCLA to come out on May 2817 02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:36.920 fourth of nineteen eighty. I was a nineteen ninety April 2818 02:29:36.959 --> 02:29:40.399 twenty eighth, nineteen ninety, a few days earlier. The second 2819 02:29:40.440 --> 02:29:42.120 trial of Ray Bucky I think starts on May first, 2820 02:29:42.200 --> 02:29:46.000 nineteen ninety, so immediately preceding that the trial date and 2821 02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:49.079 the actual hired by the lady he's been living on 2822 02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:52.920 her couch on right, apparently, you know, globbing off her 2823 02:29:52.959 --> 02:29:56.479 monetarily wise. The way she makes these statements, he takes 2824 02:29:56.520 --> 02:29:59.440 the team of parents out there that he's infiltrated amongst 2825 02:29:59.479 --> 02:30:02.440 these parents. Again, Jackie mcgauley states, he was always trying 2826 02:30:02.479 --> 02:30:05.440 to do stuff and she never wanted his help, right, 2827 02:30:05.719 --> 02:30:07.520 She never asked for it. She always told him no, 2828 02:30:07.799 --> 02:30:10.040 he had nothing to do with the archaeological team, et cetera, 2829 02:30:10.079 --> 02:30:12.280 et cetera. He had nothing to do with any investigations. 2830 02:30:12.360 --> 02:30:14.440 These are the sort statements he would tour America on 2831 02:30:14.680 --> 02:30:16.879 and say later, we know that stuff's false. We know 2832 02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:19.680 this other laser tag shit he presents. There's no evidence. 2833 02:30:19.760 --> 02:30:22.479 But my point being here is he takes the parents 2834 02:30:22.520 --> 02:30:24.840 out with shovels in August three April twenty eighth, days 2835 02:30:24.840 --> 02:30:27.440 before the trial, days before the actual survey that he 2836 02:30:27.559 --> 02:30:30.399 now claims, you know, he died claiming ownership of right, 2837 02:30:31.040 --> 02:30:32.600 and they takes out there were shovels to make a 2838 02:30:32.639 --> 02:30:34.959 real shit show of the situation. Calls out the LA Times. 2839 02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:38.159 They write an article on it. This nuthouse looney tune 2840 02:30:38.239 --> 02:30:40.639 laser tag Ted's got these parents out here were shovels, 2841 02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:43.440 and then all these Satanists propaganda say, oh you believe 2842 02:30:43.440 --> 02:30:45.719 in mcbarton, you believe they got tunnels? What are you moron? 2843 02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:49.000 And there's been a fucking report print instances nineteen ninety 2844 02:30:49.079 --> 02:30:53.079 three regarding these tunnels, the animal bones, the cat they. 2845 02:30:53.159 --> 02:30:57.639 Found, they found, they found lunch boxes, they found, the 2846 02:30:57.719 --> 02:30:58.680 found packs. 2847 02:30:58.959 --> 02:31:00.879 Yeah, they found stuff from nineteen eighty two when the 2848 02:31:00.920 --> 02:31:02.959 school was built in nineteen sixty six, So you couldn't 2849 02:31:03.040 --> 02:31:05.520 argue all this shit was their one that constructed you know. 2850 02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:09.319 No, no, that's what I'm saying, these these underground tunnels 2851 02:31:09.399 --> 02:31:15.479 and shit they found the fucking tunnels instill. It was like, yeah, 2852 02:31:15.760 --> 02:31:18.479 I mean and thanks for the comment to you, by 2853 02:31:18.479 --> 02:31:22.319 the way, Todd, I appreciate that. I also enjoy working 2854 02:31:22.399 --> 02:31:22.840 with JJ. 2855 02:31:24.239 --> 02:31:27.360 Yeah, thank you, thank you, Todd. Great great commentaries for 2856 02:31:27.440 --> 02:31:29.399 great feedback chat. Well let's bring us in for I 2857 02:31:29.440 --> 02:31:31.520 don't want to keep any any longer here, man, because 2858 02:31:31.520 --> 02:31:34.639 we could talk anal digging serial killer, stenic serial killer, 2859 02:31:34.760 --> 02:31:38.280 Nazi folks for hours though, government cheese and beef reinos, 2860 02:31:38.280 --> 02:31:38.879 if you will. 2861 02:31:39.799 --> 02:31:43.799 Yes, my favorite topic by far, my favorite topic. 2862 02:31:44.360 --> 02:31:46.239 I will check out. I appreciate the recommendation. I will 2863 02:31:46.319 --> 02:31:48.680 check out this dexter business. I am from vaguely familiar. 2864 02:31:48.760 --> 02:31:51.440 You'd like it. I don't know why you have. I mean, 2865 02:31:51.440 --> 02:31:52.840 you got a lot of catsh one. 2866 02:31:52.760 --> 02:31:55.120 Up to do. But I was raised by a woman 2867 02:31:55.280 --> 02:31:58.360 that was didn't graduate high school. However, she was very intelligent. 2868 02:31:58.520 --> 02:32:01.680 So my grandmother Van she helped raise me. She she 2869 02:32:01.760 --> 02:32:04.920 would uh uneducated one cousin of Charles Manson. You know, 2870 02:32:05.000 --> 02:32:08.120 she's double Maynard. In fact, Charles Manson's a manor for Pikeville. 2871 02:32:08.239 --> 02:32:10.639 This is my ken folk in relations there with old Chuck. 2872 02:32:11.120 --> 02:32:13.079 He's a Pikeville Maynard. I'm a pike Ville manor through 2873 02:32:13.120 --> 02:32:15.879 my grandmother. So she never graduated high she never graduated. 2874 02:32:15.879 --> 02:32:18.040 She wasn't an educated woman, but she's very intelligent. So 2875 02:32:18.239 --> 02:32:20.559 I'm watching murder she wrote in Columbo and Shit in 2876 02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:23.120 the eighties, and she's shutting off the TV and saying, 2877 02:32:23.559 --> 02:32:25.479 this is why people murder other people. And if we 2878 02:32:25.559 --> 02:32:28.120 look at who produces this, she's she's she was serious. 2879 02:32:28.159 --> 02:32:30.079 She knew what she was talking about, not only in 2880 02:32:30.120 --> 02:32:33.879 the replication of those actions. Columbo used to have gay 2881 02:32:33.920 --> 02:32:37.280 sex with Charles Manson, used to be butt buddies. Yeah, 2882 02:32:37.559 --> 02:32:41.239 and clearly Angela Lansbury is a serial killer in that show. 2883 02:32:41.280 --> 02:32:43.719 She's going all these towns. Everyone's just showing up murdered 2884 02:32:43.760 --> 02:32:46.520 and murder. She wrote, and her daughter was a member 2885 02:32:46.559 --> 02:32:50.879 of the Manson family. She wrote a letter for Manson 2886 02:32:50.879 --> 02:32:53.840 to be her daughter's fifteen year old daughter's guardian because 2887 02:32:53.840 --> 02:32:56.360 they keep running into Manson and they're like, why has 2888 02:32:56.399 --> 02:32:58.600 he got this fifteen year old Landsbury girl with him? 2889 02:32:58.600 --> 02:33:01.399 And she's got a note. So these are the people 2890 02:33:01.520 --> 02:33:04.600 perpetrating these ideals in our society. It's literally the same. 2891 02:33:04.440 --> 02:33:09.440 Group of folks TV in reality, and it. 2892 02:33:09.440 --> 02:33:11.440 Doesn't take an education to figure these things out. Again, 2893 02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:13.319 I'm not saying my grandmother was dune. I'm just saying 2894 02:33:13.399 --> 02:33:16.280 she wasn't a you know, a school learned woman. You know, 2895 02:33:16.399 --> 02:33:17.799 she raised a lot of children and knew what she 2896 02:33:17.920 --> 02:33:19.959 was talking about. But you can just use common So 2897 02:33:20.040 --> 02:33:21.760 what I'm saying is she was very sharp and common 2898 02:33:21.799 --> 02:33:24.000 sense of the street smarts for sure, and you can 2899 02:33:24.120 --> 02:33:26.959 discern these things. She may not know that Manson and 2900 02:33:27.600 --> 02:33:30.120 you know her cousin Chuck there used to bang Columbo, 2901 02:33:30.559 --> 02:33:32.719 you know, Peter Falk. She probably didn't know that I'm 2902 02:33:32.799 --> 02:33:34.959 quite certain of it. But what I'm saying is she 2903 02:33:35.079 --> 02:33:37.159 knew that that was what's causing a lot of these things. 2904 02:33:37.200 --> 02:33:39.040 We look to see who's pushing these things, and it's 2905 02:33:39.079 --> 02:33:41.000 the same Nazi satan. 2906 02:33:40.760 --> 02:33:43.840 As fuckers, same fucking ones. 2907 02:33:44.520 --> 02:33:49.200 Yep. So well, on that note, I appreciate your time there, ma'am. 2908 02:33:49.319 --> 02:33:52.360 I look forward to our future discussion on Wednesday with 2909 02:33:52.440 --> 02:33:53.920 you and Colby joining me here to get a little 2910 02:33:53.920 --> 02:33:57.079 GCD to do it. An occult naesoteric film review of 2911 02:33:57.200 --> 02:34:01.520 the nineteen eighty nine cinematic masterpiece Twins. 2912 02:34:02.639 --> 02:34:04.760 I can't wait. It's gonna be a great man. 2913 02:34:06.360 --> 02:34:08.200 Let me just pull this up here. I got my 2914 02:34:08.280 --> 02:34:10.000 muppet art here somewhere. Shoot what I do with the 2915 02:34:10.079 --> 02:34:13.399 muppet art anyhow, I mupp at artiside o. Here we go. 2916 02:34:14.799 --> 02:34:17.440 I was gonna say that'll be Wednesday, coming up Wednesday 2917 02:34:17.680 --> 02:34:22.360 at nine people. Oh yeah, I got I gotta muppetize 2918 02:34:22.399 --> 02:34:25.440 it right. So appreciate your time to night, ma'am. I 2919 02:34:25.520 --> 02:34:27.079 appreciate it. Look forward to you and call me joined 2920 02:34:27.079 --> 02:34:29.280 me here for this one on Wednesday. And uh, did 2921 02:34:29.319 --> 02:34:31.719 you have any final plugs for closing thoughts you need to? 2922 02:34:33.440 --> 02:34:34.159 You'd like to make. 2923 02:34:35.719 --> 02:34:35.760 No. 2924 02:34:36.120 --> 02:34:38.559 I just I love the show. I've been looking forward 2925 02:34:38.639 --> 02:34:41.239 to this one. I've learned a lot already. I think 2926 02:34:41.319 --> 02:34:43.360 we could do a follow up to this and talk 2927 02:34:43.479 --> 02:34:47.319 more about Ed. I am in uh looking forward to 2928 02:34:47.440 --> 02:34:50.120 the Twins episode. 2929 02:34:49.639 --> 02:34:54.959 Two though, Yes, ma'am. All right. Well, thank you folks 2930 02:34:55.000 --> 02:34:56.680 of the Interwest for joining us here tonight. Thanks for 2931 02:34:56.719 --> 02:34:59.040 the commentary there in the chat. And Julia, thank you 2932 02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:01.879 ma'am for joining me here. And see you on Wednesday 2933 02:35:01.879 --> 02:35:04.239 and we'll convene on more of these anal digging satanic 2934 02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:07.639 Nazi serial killers at evers in Frank drymend and such 2935 02:35:07.680 --> 02:35:08.159 in the future. 2936 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:10.079 Thanks for having me. 2937 02:35:12.879 --> 02:35:18.559 Yeah, he's a bad guy. He's a bad dude. Marius 2938 02:35:18.719 --> 02:35:22.760 borg Hoybee. What country is this? I just said it? 2939 02:35:22.799 --> 02:35:29.639 What is this Norway yet? Norway? He's a bad man. 2940 02:35:31.440 --> 02:35:33.959 Cory Monte's mom and dad died twelve years you after 2941 02:35:34.000 --> 02:35:38.600 Glee Stars Tragic Death. You know that Glee thing. You 2942 02:35:38.639 --> 02:35:43.000 ever want to be depressed, watch that documentary. They all 2943 02:35:43.040 --> 02:35:45.000 get selected for the show, and then all of them 2944 02:35:45.239 --> 02:35:47.639 one of them is a pedophile. Everyone else kills himself. 2945 02:35:47.760 --> 02:35:51.000 Someone dies in a lake. It's final destination. Glee it's tough, 2946 02:35:51.079 --> 02:35:56.239 it's sad. He's also accused of a raping. I can't 2947 02:35:56.280 --> 02:35:57.920 keep saying that word. They're gonna get some mad at 2948 02:35:57.959 --> 02:36:02.239 us on this YouTube. Unconscious TV star Lenny Meister thirty 2949 02:36:02.360 --> 02:36:06.719 nine at one of his wild Scougum Festival parties allegedly 2950 02:36:06.799 --> 02:36:10.079 held in the basement of the Royal Estate. So he 2951 02:36:10.159 --> 02:36:12.399 had these parties at the basement of the Royal estate, 2952 02:36:13.680 --> 02:36:17.840 and he released the statement saying he suffers from several 2953 02:36:17.920 --> 02:36:20.159 mental disorders and a struggle with substance abuse for a 2954 02:36:20.200 --> 02:36:23.159 long time. Here's the way it all works over there, 2955 02:36:23.520 --> 02:36:26.559 and I'm gonna just tell everybody so that there's no confusion. 2956 02:36:29.000 --> 02:36:35.920 They all have these castles and during the day they'll 2957 02:36:36.000 --> 02:36:39.399 do like, hey, come on over, we're doing a thing. 2958 02:36:40.879 --> 02:36:42.959 So people go over and it got a little Swedish 2959 02:36:43.079 --> 02:36:46.079 meat ball or red cabbage. Red cabbage is good and 2960 02:36:46.200 --> 02:36:50.399 you don't get it enough as a side. Why can't 2961 02:36:50.440 --> 02:36:53.520 I have it? It's that with the beats. Red cabbage 2962 02:36:53.639 --> 02:36:58.479 is good. So they're doing stuff like that, right, they go, hey, 2963 02:36:58.680 --> 02:37:02.319 come on over, we're doing a castle. We got red cabbage, 2964 02:37:03.159 --> 02:37:09.000 a little noodle dish, maybe some schnitz, little Schnitzel. You 2965 02:37:09.079 --> 02:37:12.319 go over there, you have a beer, You have a beer, 2966 02:37:12.920 --> 02:37:18.040 a beer, and you eat and it's nice. And then 2967 02:37:18.319 --> 02:37:21.399 they send you home and you go hi, bench biben 2968 02:37:21.600 --> 02:37:24.479 whatever like some type of you know. And I'm talking 2969 02:37:24.520 --> 02:37:30.159 about all of them over there, Belgium, the whole Gang, Germany, Norway, 2970 02:37:30.840 --> 02:37:34.159 is Scandinavia, all these with the European Royalty, Scandinavia, all 2971 02:37:34.200 --> 02:37:38.879 this stuff, right, And then I'm telling you this is 2972 02:37:38.959 --> 02:37:42.319 the way it is. Then like an old woman comes out, 2973 02:37:42.360 --> 02:37:45.479 They like wheel her out and she's like sitting on 2974 02:37:45.799 --> 02:37:50.680 the like on the steps of the palace, and she's 2975 02:37:50.799 --> 02:38:00.799 like it is time. And then they release like all 2976 02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:05.520 some of the workers and the children are forced to 2977 02:38:05.600 --> 02:38:08.120 strip naked and run through the woods, and then the 2978 02:38:08.319 --> 02:38:12.920 elite people hunt them and when they find them, they 2979 02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:16.440 have sex with them and kill them. And the old 2980 02:38:16.520 --> 02:38:18.559 woman and some of the older people watch because they 2981 02:38:18.600 --> 02:38:22.719 can no longer run after the people. So sometimes somebody 2982 02:38:22.760 --> 02:38:24.280 will be brought to them and to have sex with her. 2983 02:38:24.360 --> 02:38:27.879 I say, okay, you can eat this one. We got, 2984 02:38:27.959 --> 02:38:31.920 we caught it for you. But they're watching this whole thing, 2985 02:38:31.959 --> 02:38:34.120 and they remember, like when we were young, we would 2986 02:38:34.239 --> 02:38:37.479 run after the children and the you know, the help 2987 02:38:37.559 --> 02:38:43.000 the helpers, and then we would rape and kill them 2988 02:38:43.879 --> 02:38:45.799 and then they light them on fire and everything, and 2989 02:38:45.840 --> 02:38:48.280 they do drew with pagan rituals. So he grew up 2990 02:38:48.319 --> 02:38:53.719 in that. Not to excuse his behavior, but like he 2991 02:38:53.840 --> 02:38:58.200 grew up in that system where they're like, it's it's 2992 02:38:58.360 --> 02:38:59.879 the it's the time. But here's the thing that the 2993 02:39:00.159 --> 02:39:02.719 those people had, they had a little discipline, They had 2994 02:39:02.719 --> 02:39:06.840 a little discipline. He's just raping any old person he sees. 2995 02:39:07.760 --> 02:39:11.520 That's not the game. The game is there's an organized 2996 02:39:12.000 --> 02:39:16.639 human hunt where we let people run through the forest 2997 02:39:16.719 --> 02:39:18.559 and then chase after them and kill them and eat 2998 02:39:18.639 --> 02:39:20.399 them and rape them. And by the way, if you 2999 02:39:20.399 --> 02:39:23.760 think I'm lying, google this. It's true and it probably 3000 02:39:23.799 --> 02:39:26.879 still goes on. Why wouldn't it. And actually, as much 3001 02:39:26.920 --> 02:39:29.000 as I might disagree with it, I see actually a 3002 02:39:29.200 --> 02:39:33.399 huge benefit to tradition, especially specifically European tradition. Not to 3003 02:39:33.479 --> 02:39:37.600 be racist, but you have people not to be like 3004 02:39:38.120 --> 02:39:42.120 like a crazy person, but they have human hunts on 3005 02:39:42.239 --> 02:39:45.719 the grounds of these castles, and it's well organized and 3006 02:39:45.799 --> 02:39:47.639 they you know, some people disappear from the town. It 3007 02:39:47.680 --> 02:39:50.079 happens once a year, A couple of times a year, 3008 02:39:50.120 --> 02:39:52.719 it's festival. It's like an autumnal one and it's fine. 3009 02:39:53.079 --> 02:39:57.760 So this kid's raised in that, and then he starts 3010 02:39:57.799 --> 02:39:59.879 doing all this stuff. Is Panska, you cannot like this, 3011 02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:02.000 And he goes, well, what about the human hunt when 3012 02:40:02.040 --> 02:40:05.079 I was four? You know, you guys were you know, 3013 02:40:05.399 --> 02:40:07.319 you're having sex with people in front of me, killing them, 3014 02:40:07.399 --> 02:40:11.959 cannibalizing them. It's like, that's a holiday. That's what has 3015 02:40:12.000 --> 02:40:15.120 to be explaining to these kids. It's a holiday. You know, 3016 02:40:15.319 --> 02:40:17.559 we would as kids go, why can't we have Easter candy? 3017 02:40:17.719 --> 02:40:20.920 That's a holiday? I believe we Yeah, you don't get 3018 02:40:20.959 --> 02:40:23.399 it every day. Halloween, you don't get it every day. 3019 02:40:23.760 --> 02:40:27.559 It's a holiday. So when European royalty hunts humans on 3020 02:40:27.639 --> 02:40:30.680 the grounds of their castle, rapes, tortures, burns them and 3021 02:40:30.760 --> 02:40:34.719 eats them, you don't. They have to make it understood 3022 02:40:34.760 --> 02:40:37.799 that their kids, like, buddy, we fought worse to do this. Okay, 3023 02:40:38.559 --> 02:40:42.600 we're actually sacrificing people to pagan gods. We have a 3024 02:40:42.719 --> 02:40:46.879 relationship with the demonic and that we're upholding some sort 3025 02:40:46.959 --> 02:40:51.559 of pact or agreement with And we fought years and 3026 02:40:51.639 --> 02:40:55.639 years and years to be able to a few days 3027 02:40:55.680 --> 02:40:58.319 out of the year relax and do a human hunt. 3028 02:40:59.760 --> 02:41:02.520 But these are special moments for us. There's actually a 3029 02:41:02.559 --> 02:41:06.079 lot of pageantry and ceremony involved. You're just out there 3030 02:41:06.200 --> 02:41:10.559 willy nilly, rapid people in the dorm room. That ain't 3031 02:41:10.600 --> 02:41:15.840 the way it works, buddy. So he said, whoa, what 3032 02:41:16.040 --> 02:41:20.760 about the human hunt? And they're like, it's that's a holiday. 3033 02:41:21.239 --> 02:41:26.040 His father says, the king, that's a holiday, and that's 3034 02:41:26.159 --> 02:41:30.639 between us. The human hunt, or they call it the hunt. 3035 02:41:31.079 --> 02:41:32.000 The hunt. 3036 02:41:33.639 --> 02:41:39.399 Is actually something very special, you know, said your grandmother's 3037 02:41:39.440 --> 02:41:43.479 gonna be when she reads these allegations. But grandma watches 3038 02:41:43.639 --> 02:41:47.079 us all rape and eat the chilled yes, of course 3039 02:41:47.360 --> 02:41:52.399 on a holiday. The fact that you're behaving like this 3040 02:41:52.559 --> 02:41:56.559 and bringing shame to our family because all of these 3041 02:41:56.680 --> 02:41:59.479 royal fem in Europe, it's just what goes on. It's 3042 02:41:59.520 --> 02:42:01.360 not even a deal. And the people know it. 3043 02:42:02.200 --> 02:42:03.120 Do people know it? 3044 02:42:05.120 --> 02:42:08.520 Some people know, Yeah, it's hunt weekend. Don't be stoopid. 3045 02:42:08.600 --> 02:42:09.120 They know it. 3046 02:42:10.719 --> 02:42:13.920 The people it's it's boring. Now, Oh yeah, you're gonna 3047 02:42:13.959 --> 02:42:16.680 hunt a couple of people. Chop mop, We get it. 3048 02:42:19.000 --> 02:42:21.399 These royals now, they don't even have any power in 3049 02:42:21.479 --> 02:42:24.200 these countries. The EU's taken over. They flood them all 3050 02:42:24.280 --> 02:42:28.639 with immigrants. Everyone loses their minds and the royals have 3051 02:42:28.920 --> 02:42:33.559 nothing except the hunt, and it's the only time they 3052 02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:37.600 feel powerful. So is that a good idea to move 3053 02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:41.600 on from monarchy, to have all these supernational institutions like 3054 02:42:41.680 --> 02:42:47.000 the EU. So we've moved away from these bloodthirsty pagan 3055 02:42:47.280 --> 02:42:52.559 royal bloodlines and replace them with bureaucrats and Brussels. And 3056 02:42:52.719 --> 02:42:55.319 these people sitting in their castles, they're bored as shit. 3057 02:42:56.200 --> 02:42:56.799 They don't want to. 3058 02:42:56.799 --> 02:42:59.680 Go to the opening of a new hospital. They want 3059 02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:07.879 the But their children need to understand that the hunt 3060 02:43:08.040 --> 02:43:12.000 is especial occasions, not all the time. So this prince 3061 02:43:12.079 --> 02:43:17.319 what's his name again, hoiby? What's his name? Hoibe? Go up, 3062 02:43:17.360 --> 02:43:17.920 get his name? 3063 02:43:21.319 --> 02:43:21.639 What was it? 3064 02:43:21.799 --> 02:43:25.920 Born? Marius? Marius bor hoibee. 3065 02:43:27.559 --> 02:43:28.040 Marius. 3066 02:43:28.799 --> 02:43:35.000 Please behave and wait till the hunt. It's actually nicer 3067 02:43:35.159 --> 02:43:39.479 if you wait till the hunt. My father told me once. 3068 02:43:40.719 --> 02:43:42.479 I said to him, we're on the way to a 3069 02:43:42.559 --> 02:43:47.440 swim meat And I said, Dad, can I get McDonald's 3070 02:43:47.440 --> 02:43:50.680 And he said, son, A hungry dog runs the furthest 3071 02:43:51.719 --> 02:43:55.760 runs the farthest. A hungry dog runs the farthest, So Marius, 3072 02:43:56.799 --> 02:44:00.799 a hungry dog runs the farthest. Wait till the hunt, 3073 02:44:01.239 --> 02:44:03.760 have your fun on the hunt, and then get nuts. 3074 02:44:04.280 --> 02:44:07.760 Rip people's intestines out with your teeth. I mean, really, 3075 02:44:07.840 --> 02:44:12.159 go on a bender, but don't ruin it with these 3076 02:44:12.280 --> 02:44:17.959 little snacks. Don't ruin the meal with a snack. Don't 3077 02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:21.120 ruin the meal with a snack.