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Jim for the Gun Talk after Show.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I can quit scrolling and buying guns
online and actually get back to doing this.
Speaker 5: Hello guys, Hello, amen, We yeah.
Speaker 3: You can do both. What do you think I do
during the breaks on the show? Right? And I'm over
on Gunbroker Guns Internationholder, Jury's Guns. I'm looking at what's going.
By the way, for anybody who happened to be listening,
Sunday evenings is when the Jury's Guns auctions on gun
Broker and they time out, so it's a good time
to jump over and see what they got for sale.
Speaker 4: Okay, fun stuff, all right.
Speaker 3: I got Tom Hendig and Jim Kenzie here and we're
joined by Dan who is in Colorado. Hey Dan, thank
you for your patience. You made it to the after Show.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm glad to be here on the after Show.
I enjoy it show. Yeah, it's fun. I just kind
of arranged report.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 1: I went to an auction in a state auction and
they happened to have a Auto five sixteen for sale Browning,
and so I did on it and I ended up
winning it, and of course got home very excited, and
I still am but started looking up numbers trying to
figure out and it was a looks like it's a
Remington made Browning in World War two, and so then
I got online and then there's quite a debate of
whether it's a real Browning, and no it's not, but
I can't find any other markings well, and it says browning.
Speaker 3: So well, I was just going to ask you if
it says browning, because you know, Reminton made it before
Browning did. It was the Ruminton Model eleven before it
was the Browning A.
Speaker 1: Five And that's what people are saying. You're just all
you got was a Model eleven. It was brown branded
as a Browning. But this has got the mag cut
off the Model elevens, didn't, you know. And so anyway,
I just find it interesting. I don't care what side
argument comes down on. I appreciate it was made during
the war and that we were stepping in to help Browning,
and they were helped, you know, providing arms for us.
And it's just a neat shotgun. It's a uh my
range report is it'll kill a bunch of prairie dogs
all at once if you get close enough.
Speaker 3: Sixteen gage.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's all I had.
Speaker 3: Really, what side shot do you use for prairie dogs?
Speaker 1: You know what the thing is is, I ran right
out and like I said, when you get real close.
And the reason I got real close is because I
was using six six' five doves some doveload because it's
WHAT i. Shard, yeah and sixteen is not easy to.
Find i'd like to find something, better but it's.
Speaker 3: Sixteen it's not easy to, find and unfortunately it tends
to be a little bit more expensive than twelve.
Speaker 1: Games yeah, yeah but boy is this saying a joy to.
Shoot i'll tell you WHAT i really enjoy.
Speaker 3: It, well you know the deal, is and you probably
know all this just for everybody. Else the trick on
The Browning sweet sixteen is what they call their sixteen
gauge version is a lot of other companies would build
their sixteen gauges on a twelve gage. Frame so you
got this big heavier that it needs to. Be browning
actually built their sixteen gauge on a special sixteen gauge,
frame and that's why they feel so.
Speaker 1: Good, NO i did not know. That i'm glad to know.
Speaker 3: It, yeah, YEAH i mean there's a reason those things
feel so darn good is that it's not a twelve
gauge gun that they just chambered for sixteen.
Speaker 1: Gage, well it's LIKE i, said it is. Something i've
done a lot of twelve gage And i've done a
little bit of twenty. Gauge back in the. Day he
had a twenty two with a twenty gauge under that
my dad taught me to shoot with and BUT i
never had a sixteen and so boys. Thrilled and this
came at. Auction so, anyway, beautiful what's the?
Speaker 3: Plan what are you going to do with? It other
other than prey?
Speaker 1: Dogs that's the other beautiful thing about the. THING i
am a dove hunter out, here and we also have
a lot of Those eurasian collared, doves so there's kind
of an open season on, those and basically that would
be most of WHAT i do with.
Speaker 3: It and The eurasian collar doves are about fifty percent
larger than a morning.
Speaker 1: Dove, yeah OR i, WELL i hate to hear that
BECAUSE i just THOUGHT i was getting to be a better.
Shot you just ruined my.
Speaker 5: Day here's the.
Speaker 3: Benefit of it is they eat just as. Well there's
just more of them when you eat.
Speaker 1: Wine hopefully you go, well good.
Speaker 3: LUCK i think you scored well in an.
Speaker 1: Auction well, done, well thank, YOU i appreciate. It good
good to hear your voices for.
Speaker 5: Real thanks dam appreciate.
Speaker 3: The calls fun fun. Stuff go to an, auction end
up with a cool. Gun it is that category of you,
know you can't win if you don't go to these.
Things you got to go show, up don't.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 6: Yeah it's LIKE nra banquets and. Stuff it's, like you,
KNOW i. GOES i HAVE i have a budget in.
Mind here's What i'm willing to. Lose kind of LIKE
i don't do the casino, thing but WHEN i, did
that's WHAT i. Would you, know it's, Okay i'm gonna
lose a hundred bucks one hundred and, twenty but whatever it,
was it don't budge same kind of hang on. That
i'll bid on a bunch of stuff if it all
hits and you're kind of in, trouble but you should
always find a way just. That BUT i LOVE i
haven't been to one a couple of, years but have
you been one? Time like an anra banquet Like ducks
and limited, Banquet Wild game, dinner.
Speaker 4: The Wild game. Dinner, yeah a couple of those.
Speaker 5: Gun raffles and. Stuff, yeah it's a Blest, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: It is just AS i. Say and somebody is going
to go home with a New labrador. Puppy, okay they
always have labrador puppies at the du. Banquets, yeah because the,
retrievers and you, know somebody's got to drink enough where
they're gonna come home with a. Puppy what's gonna? Happen
and they're gonna pay too much for, it but it's a,
donation so it's, Okay and it's all well and good
until you get.
Speaker 5: Home, well you, know after.
Speaker 6: Break we've got a great story for you to, reissue
if you, would so to speak about your getting out bid.
Speaker 5: Intentionally oh, geez, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah you guys want to and you know how it.
Is you get into it, auction same, deal, Right AND
i had established my limit and then my limit got
busted and so, Yeah i'll tell that story when we come.
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Speaker 3: You you, KNOW i do like going to like frings
of The nrara banquet and du. BANQUETS i have learned
to be a little bit.
Speaker 5: Careful you got played.
Speaker 3: WELL i did. Well and then there was the other
thing that. HAPPENED i actually think it may have Been,
no it was at the exact same. Time it was
A deu banquet In Baton, rouge which is a real big.
Banquet there's several hundred people at this. Thing and not
only DID i come away with this, gun Which i'll
tell the story about just a, second BUT i came
away with a one hundred year old classic Antique cyprus
Handcarved louisiana, piro which is a particular type of flat
bottom boat that The cajuns, use WHICH i mean it
had a whole story behind. IT i just thought it
was so cool and went. Ahead and the way the
problem was it wasn't an. Auction, well it. Was it
was one of those silent auctions where you just put
down your, number and you, KNOW i, thought, well i'll
start it off And i'll just put a number, down
AND i had to remember, them we'll put that. DOWN
i always like to do, those knowing That i'm going
to get out. Bid but at LEAST i got to
play right. Right nobody else wanted to play on this,
one so the first bid was the only. Bid SO
i ended up with this. Thing SO i ended up
having to figure out how to get it back, home
which is big heavy, thing and then what AM i
going to do with? It SO i ended up donating
it to The Maritime. Museum oh, yeah. OKAY i thought
it was cool and, going all, right it's, like Because
i'm looking at this thing in the, garage and my
wife's looking at this thing in the, garage and this
thing needs to live somewhere.
Speaker 5: Else the first or last dame probably.
Speaker 3: Not so the gun story was. FUN i actually still
have the gun at, Least but there was a really
Nice ruger forty five single action revolver of the convertibles
that has forty FIVE colt and the forty FIVE acp,
cylinders but it had been worked over by a customed
gunsmith and really, nice different, finish slicked up, up everything is.
Beautiful AND i, said you, KNOW i could go a
thousand on that one and we'll see where it. Goes,
well of, course it just blows right past a, thousand
And i'm, going, WELL i could, GO i could go
twelve hundred on this. One so it goes up to
that And i'm, bidding And i'm going to look at this. Thing,
well it turns out the gun smith who worked on
it works At, lipsy's the farm's distributor right there In Baton,
roots and he's well, known people know, him does fine.
Work and everybody else dropped. Out i'm. Bidding i'm not
kind of toward the front Where i'm close to the
auctioneer and there's somebody in the back of the room
and he's, bidden And i'm. Bidding he's, Bidden AND i
finally turned around because it's just the two of us
are trying to see who it. IS i look way back. There,
yeah they get the smiling face he's looking at. Me
It's Richard, lipsey who Owns. Lipsy's let me just, Say
richard goes to places in his private. Jet so me
bidding against. Him Is i'm going to, lose, Right that's
just all there is to. It and of course Then
i'm thinking about. It wait a, minute this guy did
the work on. This What's richard? Doing in just about that,
Time richard stands. Up he knows everybody in the. Room
everybody Knows Richard. Lipsy he is a you, know an
icon in that world. There and he points at me
because he knows. Me he, says tell you what if
he'll go point to, me if he'll go two, thousand he,
Says i'll match the two, thousand and he keeps the.
Gun well you're done if you've been called out the whole.
ROOM i, mean it's just, like if you will donate that,
Money i'll match the, donation and you get the it's,
Like i'm, done said you, can't you. Can't you're just
done for. It and he just was smiling the whole
time because you know he had. ME i, mean it's
nice and maybe it's worth two, grand but, look you know,
What i've used the story so many. TIMES i guess
the story is worth.
Speaker 5: Absolutely that's.
Speaker 3: GOOD i JUST i, mean he just took me to
the cleaners on that.
Speaker 5: One oh, god you got your story's. Worth, THOUGH i.
Speaker 3: Usually end up doing the you, know the buy the
tickets to drop them in the buckets around the, room you,
know AND i inevitably end up winning SOMETHING i absolutely don't, need,
right and you wonder why DID i even put it
in that bucket in the first. Place, Right, Okay, so
but those those events are. FUN i like going to.
Those you never know what's going to be, available and
sometimes it's a bunch of stuff you don't. Need but
it's just fun to hang around. EVERYBODY i like the.
Speaker 6: CAMARADERIE i was just gonna, SAY i like the camaraderie
of it because They're i've helped them shell out a
couple of.
Speaker 4: These yeah that was the.
Speaker 6: Food, yeah oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah i've helped me shell
on a couple of these WITH pa systems and lining
up people and et.
Speaker 5: Cetera and, uh it's. Great it's just a cool.
Speaker 6: Atmosphere reminds, me well gun people around me of aviation
and and some boating.
Speaker 5: Folks just the, spirit if you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah it's a shared interest and it's not really.
Competitive you're not trying to get anything out of. Anybody
you just all are enjoying where you are and the
thing you, do and you're happy to go help people
with whatever it.
Speaker 6: Is but you can tell because like the way the
kids kids, are you can tell the way they're raised.
Speaker 5: Differently you know. That i'm sure the kids are. True
but you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: MEAN i, MEAN i understand what you're. SAYING i, MEAN
i remember growing, up and you know WHEN i was growing,
up WHEN i went to, TOWN i went in a.
Boat that's how we got to the movie theater or
the haircut or. WHATEVER i jumped in one of the
boats behind the house and you, know ran down the
lake and get to the.
Speaker 5: City.
Speaker 3: City, yeah really not much of a, city live. Town
but one of the THINGS i, learned and this is
it is a crazy. Lake it's one hundred yards, across
one hundred yards across and thirty five miles. Long, wow it.
Is it's a river that was dammed up but didn't
make out like a big lake out of. It it's
still the configuration of. River so it Was red, river
and it twisty turney back and, forth and The Red
river changed its course and left this thing just a big.
Ditch they dammed it up on both ends and it
filled with, water and now you've got what's Called Keene River.
Lake but WHERE i was going with, This it's one
of the THINGS i learned going up BECAUSE i was
on the water all the, time is you always waved
and everybody went. By and part of it was just being.
Friendly but part of it was back, then especially, outward
motors were very unreliable and there was an excellent chance
yours was going to break down and you were going
to need somebody to tow you.
Speaker 5: Back good to be, friendly that's.
Speaker 3: Right be friendly with everybody you don't, know that's.
Speaker 6: Right, well and that translates great into gun, stuff oh it,
does and road rage and everything.
Speaker 5: Else it's, like, well do you really think you're that
much of a? Badass? Huh you're willing to die?
Speaker 3: For? Yeah, Yeah now that is just a mindset you
got to get yourself. Into it's, Like, OKAY i am
not going to take the bait on. THAT i am
not that. Important check my ego at the. Door, yeah
don't take the. Bait it's not like a gun. Auction you.
KNOW i think a lot of times people haven't in
their mind gone past the initial confrontation of where could this?
Go in a road raid. Situation, right you, know you
could end up you could do everything right and still get.
Shot you could go to the, hospital you could lose a,
limb you could end up being in a wheelchair the
rest of your. Life you could go to the. Morgue
even though you did everything. Right if you were in
the right you use a good. Tactics you did. It
even IF i swear to you could even shoot the
guy and send him to the. Morgue but he could
do the same thing to, you or his buddy could
shoot you in the back in the middle of. This,
OH i didn't see his buddy back. There, yeah, well
how about if you didn't get into the thing in
the first, place it wouldn't have been an. Issue.
Speaker 6: Yep or the legal ravocations and the costs, there you're
justified and you're two hundred grand in the.
Speaker 3: HOLE i Think i've shared the. Story we did a
scenario with guns many years. Ago it was one of
those basically a mini mart. Checkout you're in, line, right
so you start, off you're in, line and a guy
comes through the door and comes up there and points
a gun at the clerk to rob the, clerk and
YOU i grab my, Gun i'm gonna shoot this, guy
the bad, guy and just As i'm, drawing he turns
around and shoots. Me oh that didn't work. Out, well,
Okay we're gonna run it, again all, right this, Time
i'm going to use better. Tactics, Right i've, Learned i'm smarter.
Now guy comes, in points a gun at the. CLERK
i stepped to the, SIDE i get some, COVER i
pull out my, GUN i shoot the bad. Guy the
guy behind me in line shoots me in the. Back
it was his, accomplice, Right i'm, going, huh.
Speaker 5: Okay you don't know what you don't.
Speaker 3: Know that didn't work. Either at this, point it's like
this damn light bulb is kind of coming on above my,
head like you may want to rethink how you're doing.
This so a guy comes, in you know, again same,
deal points a gun at the. CLERK i just turn
around and walk out the door and leave everybody in.
There they, Went, yep that's the only way you're going
to win this. Scenario, yeah they've got to set up
that if you go to your, gun you are going
to get, shot, period you, Know and guess what You
and here's the thing people need to think. Through you
didn't need to go your. Gun no one was getting.
Shot yeah you had a. Gun he was robbing the.
Place what does he? Want he just wants the. Money
he's not shooting. People you, know find a safe place to,
be work your way out of, it you, know get
somewhere else if you. Can but if you could just
let leave with the, money then the other part of it,
is if you instigate the, gunfight it might not be
you that get. Shot it could be that kid over
there in the. Corner. Yep how about let's just not
have bullets flying at all.
Speaker 5: And live to eat another ho, ho there you.
Speaker 3: GO i like the ding, dogs, man they're usually right
up by the.
Speaker 4: Counter, no, no, no, yeah, pie old real.
Speaker 3: Pie you. Have the great part about all of those
is they have a half life of about twelve billion.
Years put them on the. Shelf you can come back
in a century or. Two they'll be just.
Speaker 5: Fine the toss up between spam and, Twinkies.
Speaker 3: Oh my, gosh, yes there's your survival food to. Be
the twinkies are the, cockroaches the long A they're going.
Speaker 6: To be left at the, End twinkie And.
Speaker 5: Bamula is it worth? Living DO i really want to go.
Speaker 3: On oh, god oh, well So i'm trying to get
out to the. RAINS i got to shoot that three
seven five h and h just because.
Speaker 5: One hundred rounds you should have to sight it in.
Speaker 3: Silly, thing you. Know it's like shoulder and it really
is one of the dumber Things i've. Done AND i
AND i have a string of.
Speaker 5: Those, actually, yeah, yeah never shot on. That that big,
SHOT a, bigger bigger bore.
Speaker 3: Gun with, that it's a push rather than a, smack
and that's what makes it. TOLERABLE a big like the
three hundred. Magnums their higher velocity and the gun comes
back faster to really hit you. Hard these shove, hard
but it's a lower, velocity you, know slower. Velocity it's
a lot of, power but it's a shove rather than a,
smack which is just a little bit easier to.
Speaker 6: Take, yeah especially when you got your eye right on
the scope and it stocks two inches off your.
Speaker 8: Shoulder that gives you a little air pad. There you
might want to use good technique on. This, Yeah if
not the first, time you'll certainly want to the second.
Speaker 5: Time, yeah when you get out of the.
Speaker 2: Er what's the most powerful cartridge or gun that you've Shot, jim.
Speaker 5: Oh three thirty.
Speaker 3: Eight that's a big. Gun. YEAH i was gonna say
four fifty eight with just a, magnum and THEN i, thought,
no actually FIFTY. Bmg, yeah, same your shot FIFTY bmg is.
Speaker 4: Big.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah i've never had that.
Speaker 4: Privilege did not feel it LIKE i THOUGHT i would feel.
Speaker 3: It, why it's?
Speaker 4: Good, yeah, no They uh was?
Speaker 3: It what kind of? Gun was A? Barrett?
Speaker 4: Yes it was A.
Speaker 1: Barrett.
Speaker 3: Yeah well they're big and. Heavy it probably had that
big muscle break on.
Speaker 5: It yeah it.
Speaker 3: Did, yeah but most things helped. Tremendously.
Speaker 2: Yeah you could feel the the blast of air on
your face when the thing goes.
Speaker 5: Off was that like bipod monitor or Bipod, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yep first TIME i shot a FIFTY bmg it was
THE L A. R, grizzly which is a bolt, action.
Speaker 5: Believe or.
Speaker 3: Not the first TIME i fired, ONE i shot a
prairie dog with. It it was, effective it was it
was just about. Enough, actually the cartridge was just about
as big as prairie.
Speaker 4: Dog kill it and field dress it at the same.
Speaker 3: Time, yeah that's, right cook and preserve it the whole.
Thing that was. Fun that was. Fun, YEAH i don't
have a FIFTY. BMG i actually bought a bunch of
FIFTY bmg ammo one. Time it's one of those that
say it was just too good to pass, up even
THOUGH i didn't have a gun for. It and you
can now see THAT ammo on the set over it ranged,
ready when they're doing, stuff you'll see AN ammo box
with some fifty cow that's linked and it'll be in a.
Box so if as they scan the set now and
then you might see that stuff. There we decided it
was better as a prop than to shoot your. Shoulder thanks.
You that's. Right, well and this was who, knows you,
know some surplus military from some comfort country. Somewhere, yah,
yeah what is usual as set?
Speaker 5: Dressing, now don't you just grind it down and use
it in your forty five? Seventy come, on, Yeah i'm
sure you.
Speaker 3: CAN'T a little ting will all be good to, go that's.
Right just imagine how many forty five bullets you can
get out of that, thing.
Speaker 2: No, doubt, Now Comedy, green you can't get out to
fit in the, chamber just tapping on the back with
the hammer until.
Speaker 5: It goes in that little silver. Thing, yeah, yeah, yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Right, well the bullet on a FIFTY bmg jenerally is
seven hundred and fifty grand over six. Fifty, yes it's a. Lot,
yeah they're. GREAT i mean it's a great cartridge for.
Sure John browning again here he. Is he just keeps popping,
up doesn't? He, yeah no doubt true. Genius all, RIGHT
i will give you my range report next week WHEN
i get, back Assuming i'm able to get out and
shoot that three seven. Five we'll let you. Know If
i'm still, here.
Speaker 5: We'll take care of that, back will.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know it's, uh it's getting better by the,
day which is, good AND i can actually stand up
and move. Around but, anybody, look anybody who's had a bad,
back and a lot of people, have they understand, man
when it goes, out it really goes. Out. Amen be,
well all, RIGHT i will be well And i'm gonna
shoot some stuff and you guys have.
Speaker 1: Fun we'll catch you next time for the Gun talk after.
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