Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of
Speaker 1: the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His
Speaker 1: name is Tim Duckworth. What's up, buddy.
Speaker 2: Not much, buddy.
Speaker 1: It is eleven twenty seven pm on Saturday, September sixth,
Speaker 1: kind of back to dubs a p hours. We just
Speaker 1: wrapped up the first ever PGT Bounty Blitz Tournament Series series. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true tournament series. Thank you for finishing my sentence.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. We're gonna talk all about it. We
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a recap here. We wanted
Speaker 1: to get this one out of the way before we
Speaker 1: get into PGT. Venetian is coming up later this week.
Speaker 1: After that, in what two weeks week and a half
Speaker 1: or so, it's the Poker Masters. So we got a
Speaker 1: lot of PGT stuff, as we outlined on the last
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Speaker 1: get into this PGT Bounty Blitz, which I kept like
Speaker 1: writing and talking and saying and whatever, kept calling it
Speaker 1: the Bounty series, and I had like delete stuff and
Speaker 1: correct myself. I'll probably stumble over my own words a
Speaker 1: few times throughout this episode, but we'll see if we
Speaker 1: can get on through first everone mm hmm. I would
Speaker 1: say that we took a chance to do this series,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some of the results. But first
Speaker 1: and foremost, mister Jeremi Becker, the guy who at the
Speaker 1: win a couple days ago told us he might not play.
Speaker 2: The series, doesn't.
Speaker 1: Hates bounties, never plays them, doesn't do well on them,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't like to play them. All that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. He comes out here, not only does he play,
Speaker 1: he final tables not one, not two, not three, not four,
Speaker 1: but five of the six tournaments. Five he won the
Speaker 1: first one, he had, the second place in another one.
Speaker 1: He just finished third in the final event. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy absolutely destroyed. I believe he cashed for around
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five to one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars total when you include the bounty money that
Speaker 1: he won.
Speaker 2: How many points did he finish with? Picked up one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five points.
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty five points for his quest towards
Speaker 1: qualification for the season ending PGT Million Dollar Championship, which
Speaker 1: he seems to think he's drawing dead. But I don't
Speaker 1: think he's drawing dead. There are plenty of events left
Speaker 1: on the schedule if he's able to just rip off
Speaker 1: one of the big ones.
Speaker 2: You know, if he, let's say.
Speaker 1: Wins PGT Venetian or you know, wins the five K
Speaker 1: showcase opener for Poker Masters, or even like final tables
Speaker 1: those you know, that could be a couple hundred points
Speaker 1: or so. Yeah, and then he's you know, right there
Speaker 1: in the mix of things. There's plenty of stuff at
Speaker 1: Poker Masters, the true classic, rags to riches. There is
Speaker 1: stuff in Texas if he wants to go down there
Speaker 1: and gam wants some plot napt stuff. He was there
Speaker 1: last year. I would expect him to be there this year.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not playing the fifty k, but I think
Speaker 1: the other stuff he can certainly be in there. I
Speaker 1: think on this year's NABT they have a twelve k
Speaker 1: quattro they do, and now that he's mister Bounty, I
Speaker 1: mean he needs to go in there and just show
Speaker 1: everyone what's up.
Speaker 2: So there's that.
Speaker 1: So he's got plenty of last chance as well. He's
Speaker 1: got plenty of He's got absolutely plenty of stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: five final tables total almost one hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: He added one hundred and eighty five eighty three whatever
Speaker 1: the heck it was PGT leaderboard points. So I mean,
Speaker 1: just absolutely on fire as of late is Jeremie Becker.
Speaker 1: He won the opening event for a total of fifty
Speaker 1: five thousand, six hundred dollars. You know, even though the
Speaker 1: field sizes here, which we'll talk about in a little bit,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the commissioner on the hot seat. Oh,
Speaker 1: not not really on the hot seat, but I mean
Speaker 1: the hot seat. But it's not going to be that hot.
Speaker 1: All the fields izes weren't that big, allthough the prize
Speaker 1: pools weren't that huge. You know, Becker did enjoy a
Speaker 1: lot of success, and he really did become the story
Speaker 1: of the series. Both, you know, people following along. I
Speaker 1: know that they were, you know, tuning in on the streams,
Speaker 1: they were talking about on social media, we were talking
Speaker 1: about it in various group chats in the tournament room.
Speaker 1: You know, they were you know, busting his balls NonStop
Speaker 1: about how hot he's running, all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: So Jeremy Becker very much the story of the series.
Speaker 1: Do you think, mister Commissioner, that a run like this
Speaker 1: helps Jeremy, you know, build more momentum as like a
Speaker 1: breakout name on the PGT do you or I mean,
Speaker 1: do you even think he's like still a breakout name
Speaker 1: or is he fully arrived? Like, well, what do you
Speaker 1: think this does for him?
Speaker 2: No? I think he has fully arrived. We I was
Speaker 2: chatting the other day, and he is one of the
Speaker 2: highest volume players, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's also why I was that he didn't have
Speaker 1: like he had like sixty five points or something.
Speaker 2: He just haven't gone his way this season. But like
Speaker 2: he has played literally every Noliman hold them event we've run.
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't play plow, doesn't play mix, so
Speaker 2: he obviously loses opportunities there. So he's definitely not a
Speaker 2: breakout star. He's definitely been here. He's here, and I
Speaker 2: think this run, you know, not a lot of points,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, one hundred and something thousand dollars
Speaker 2: in winnings. I think it gives him a little bit
Speaker 2: of confidence, a little bit of momentum going into Venetian,
Speaker 2: going into Poker Masters, where you know, he could potentially
Speaker 2: pick up maybe he picks up four hundred points with
Speaker 2: you know, another an assortment of cashes and and now
Speaker 2: he's you know, within shriking distance of that top forty.
Speaker 2: He's now one more big cash outside of qualifying. So
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good for him. Is the momentum.
Speaker 2: You know, if he came here bricked everything, you know,
Speaker 2: fired a bunch of bullets and nothing resulted. That confidence
Speaker 2: would have been kind of, you know, at an all
Speaker 2: time low for the PGT event. So maybe don't see
Speaker 2: him blasting the Master's Venetian Evans and you know, everything
Speaker 2: else upcoming. So I think this is a good for him.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the results do go his way. You know, he's
Speaker 2: he's bitched the mind a few times about missing the
Speaker 2: championship last year and it being my fault. So hopefully
Speaker 2: we can get away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't understand that comment. Why was it your fault?
Speaker 2: What we changed the rules this year? Is it because
Speaker 2: of the eligibility thing? Eligibility thing?
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't your fault. Those were the rules
Speaker 1: and some people selected not to show up.
Speaker 2: What he would do? You know, he likes to blame
Speaker 2: me and things. He wants to blame me. Why there
Speaker 2: wasn't a Player of the Series trophy? You know, why
Speaker 2: was there a Player of the series exactly? Why was
Speaker 2: there not money for Player of the Series. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's always my fault. It is, it is always your fault.
Speaker 1: I do think that if if you did, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I would have done a Player of the Series
Speaker 1: for this one, I would have entertained a like top
Speaker 1: bounty hunter.
Speaker 2: So like the person who is one of the most
Speaker 2: bounties something.
Speaker 1: Either either either accumulated the most bounties or accumulated the
Speaker 1: most bounty dollars. I know what the dollars thing. There
Speaker 1: is a bit more luck involved with the mystery bounty element,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, either one of those I think
Speaker 1: could have just been fun, right, you know, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be a big prize. I would
Speaker 1: have liken that sort of prize to when you did
Speaker 1: that Chip Leader bonus. Yeah, you know, that was kind
Speaker 1: of just a fun little thing. So I would have
Speaker 1: thought something like this. Not that Jeremy would have won it,
Speaker 1: because he didn't learn a single bounty that I saw.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did, but it didn't seem like he
Speaker 1: ever won bounties. He was constantly complaining about not getting
Speaker 1: a ton of bounties.
Speaker 2: Bounties did not go in He's a direction.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, But overall, Jeremie Becker moves up to
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven points on the season. That
Speaker 1: puts him in two hundred and fourteenth place, which may
Speaker 1: seem like it's far away from the top forty. But
Speaker 1: the top forty right now, fortieth place is Ben Lamb
Speaker 1: eight eighty seven, so he's around six point fifty away
Speaker 1: from Ben Lamb. So getting into the top forty, which
Speaker 1: is you know, people get like if the leader board
Speaker 1: winner of Poker Masters is going to get around six
Speaker 1: to fifty if not more, right, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean that person's going to get between five hundred to
Speaker 1: one thousand, I would say so, and especially this year
Speaker 1: because you added two events. Last year was eight events
Speaker 1: for Poker Masters. This year, we're going back to ten,
Speaker 1: so there's you know, some additional tournaments to get in there.
Speaker 1: I think that opener of the showcase is like right
Speaker 1: up Jeremy's alley too, you know, Like I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be right in his wheelhouse for the stuff
Speaker 1: that he excels in.
Speaker 2: So, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think he's drawing dead, even though he might think he's
Speaker 1: drawing dead. You know, I think he just needs to
Speaker 1: buckle down and trust the process, because, like you said,
Speaker 1: he is in here grinding all these events. He clearly
Speaker 1: has what it takes to compete with these guys who
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these players in here are
Speaker 1: some of the best players in the world, you know.
Speaker 1: But Jeremy has proven I think now the past couple
Speaker 1: of seasons that he does belong. You know, he's still here,
Speaker 1: he's showing up, he's having success. So yeah, just keep
Speaker 1: at it, man, just keep at it.
Speaker 2: There's also least six opportunities for him to win a
Speaker 2: dream seat and be fast checking the championship, giving one
Speaker 2: away at the napt if you finish on top of
Speaker 2: that lead aboard, you know, eight events there that qualify
Speaker 2: for the PGT and then we're doing five for PGT
Speaker 2: Lost Chance. So he could easily just win a PGT
Speaker 2: lost Chance event and be on the top of the
Speaker 2: leader board that way. He has got other methods to
Speaker 2: get in, as do you know everyone else out there,
Speaker 2: So he can't just give up now with the remaining
Speaker 2: in the season.
Speaker 1: And he's you know, he's some of what Jeremy does.
Speaker 2: He's just busting balls like we all like to do.
Speaker 1: So I know he's going to be gunning for it,
Speaker 1: and I think I think he's going to get there,
Speaker 1: you know. Again, I just think that at some point
Speaker 1: the variance has to go his way, which I think
Speaker 1: this series, it really did start to go his way
Speaker 1: in a lot of spots. I mean, he would have
Speaker 1: had a better result had he won with those aces
Speaker 1: vers Sergia Ido's kings and in the second event of
Speaker 1: the series at the final table. But you know there
Speaker 1: were other times when we saw him get lucky spots,
Speaker 1: so you know it goes both ways. But just the
Speaker 1: volume aspect, we know he's going to be here, He's
Speaker 1: going to be playing all of our events. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he's gonna do it. So a
Speaker 1: couple more results go his way, and you know Jeremy's
Speaker 1: going to be in the top forty if not knocking
Speaker 1: on the door. And then come that Last Chance Series,
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be game.
Speaker 2: On other winners.
Speaker 1: You know, we mentioned that Jeremy Becker won the opening
Speaker 1: event for what was fifty five thousand, six hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: and we also had Sergerio Ido won the second event
Speaker 1: for looks like sixty he looks like seventy thousand, No,
Speaker 1: sixty nine thousand, sixty nine thousand dollars or right or
Speaker 1: right around there. That's that's first place prize many plus
Speaker 1: bounties is what I'm giving you, guys. Land Entice once
Speaker 1: Jeremy Becker's enemy. I guess you would say counterpart. They
Speaker 1: are kind of buddies.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: He won the third event for almost eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah did land Entice. Fourth event, ream won that one.
Speaker 1: He actually beat Jeremy Becker in heads up play That
Speaker 1: was a PKO.
Speaker 2: How much did he win?
Speaker 1: Twenty eight K first place prize, thirty seven thousand bounties
Speaker 1: sixty sixty five. Sorry, my apologies. Jason Hickey, newcomer to
Speaker 1: the studio, came out here, played all series long, and
Speaker 1: it finally came home for Jason Hickey in even number
Speaker 1: five that was the Mystery Bounty. He won first place
Speaker 1: prize for fifty K, and then he took another forty
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars in bounties, notably Anthony Marquez third place
Speaker 1: in this one for twenty four thousand, seven hundred, but
Speaker 1: sixty six k in bounties sixty six k. Once again
Speaker 1: at a PGT mystery bounty event. The first bounty pulled
Speaker 1: was the biggest bounty available. Wild stuff, absolutely wild stuff
Speaker 1: in that one. And then this final event, the well,
Speaker 1: it was a standard bounty, then it was changed to
Speaker 1: a quatro then it was changed again to a mystery
Speaker 1: bounty was won by Sam Laskowitz. He defeated Andrew Lichtenberger
Speaker 1: and Jeremie Berger got third in that one. Laskowitz took
Speaker 1: home well, they made a deal, so I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he took home. They basically chopped up the
Speaker 1: last two bounties.
Speaker 2: Chop the last of Banni. It was twenty five k
Speaker 2: and a five k. They did ic him chump for that.
Speaker 2: Then they played out for the rest Yeah Laska weight
Speaker 2: so yeah chok on thirty six and a hop thousand
Speaker 2: for the win plus thirty zero point sixty eight in bounties. Sweet,
Speaker 2: not bad, awesome.
Speaker 1: The whole series minus the last event. The final tables
Speaker 1: were live streamed on poker Goro and on the Poker
Speaker 1: Go YouTube channel, So if you missed them you want
Speaker 1: to rewatch them, you guys can go find them there.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was fun to see. I know it's no limit
Speaker 1: hold them, but the bounty element and the different bounty element,
Speaker 1: I think through a through a wrinkle into things for
Speaker 1: the players. You know, right away, like in the studio,
Speaker 1: you could tell a lot of players aren't really familiar
Speaker 1: with bounties and how to play them, and they were
Speaker 1: kind of figuring out, figuring it out as they go,
Speaker 1: and they were asking a lot of questions and all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. And then of course the bounties
Speaker 1: were changing every single day. Like the first event was
Speaker 1: just a standard bounty. Every time you knock them out,
Speaker 1: you get a two K bounty. The second one was
Speaker 1: what a quatro no. Second one was the escalator, so
Speaker 1: it was five hundred, then it was one thousand, then
Speaker 1: it was like five K, a little bit over five k,
Speaker 1: depending on the stage of the tournament that you were at.
Speaker 1: Third one was the quatro So bounties kicked in when
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the field those remaining and boundaries
Speaker 1: were four x what they are in a standard boundary,
Speaker 1: so budies were ak there. So that added some some
Speaker 1: bigger bounties at play. You had a PKO as well.
Speaker 1: We've had pko's before, but PKO was in play here,
Speaker 1: and you had a mystery bounty as well, so you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff that was going on. It
Speaker 1: was interesting again to see kind of people figure it out,
Speaker 1: you know, be like, oh, should I call here, there's
Speaker 1: the bounty?
Speaker 2: You know, what do I do?
Speaker 1: The pay jumps are relatively small because the prize pool's
Speaker 1: got some money taken out to count for the bounty pool,
Speaker 1: so all that sort of stuff. So yeah, check it out.
Speaker 1: It's on pokergrow dot com. You can also find it
Speaker 1: on the poker Go YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: Five.
Speaker 1: Final tables they were pretty easy to two digest. I
Speaker 1: think the longest one was around four hours, but other
Speaker 1: than that, they were right around two hours each, so
Speaker 1: kind of in and out for those. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think fun series is how I would describe it. Also
Speaker 1: good to try something new, but I would also say
Speaker 1: that it kind of fell short, at least from my expectations.
Speaker 1: I know you were lower on things than I was,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm always higher, you're always lower. If you
Speaker 1: want to look at averages, the six events averaged forty
Speaker 1: six entries, so I would say, and we didn't top
Speaker 1: sixty entries for a single event, so, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit on the small side for what we're used to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we look, we've had players wanting to
Speaker 2: put this on the schedule for a while and we
Speaker 2: had to find the spot for it. We knew this
Speaker 2: wasn't going to be a harm run, but We wanted
Speaker 2: to get it on there and test it out, see
Speaker 2: what works, say what didn't. We knew we were going
Speaker 2: up against you know, a little bit of ebt Barcelona
Speaker 2: heading into trying j jors, So you know, we lost
Speaker 2: a lot of our regulars over there. They're all sitting
Speaker 2: over there trying to win some JJ coin right now.
Speaker 2: But hey, we tried it. I think we will probably
Speaker 2: do some variation of it again. I think we learned
Speaker 2: what worked, what doesn't work. And obviously scheduling is always
Speaker 2: going to be very important, so making sure whenever we
Speaker 2: do do it next, we schedule it in a better time,
Speaker 2: a better spot to really maximize kind of turnout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you think this was like just a
Speaker 1: scheduling thing? Do you think that maybe there wasn't enough
Speaker 1: interest in a bounty series from what we might have
Speaker 1: thought that there was interest on it? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: why is it? I mean, or is it just like no,
Speaker 1: we just scheduled that it was up against a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. But this is also why we could only
Speaker 1: run it, Like, I mean, is there more to just
Speaker 1: than just a schedule?
Speaker 2: I guess is what I'm asking. I think the schedule
Speaker 2: is the biggest component. I think what we learned from
Speaker 2: the series was that, you know, some of the bounty
Speaker 2: format formats just are not preferable at this kind of buying. So,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like the standard knockout and the you know,
Speaker 2: the PKAO and even the escalators whinning cent you're taking
Speaker 2: money out from hand one, while the Quadra obviously registration ends,
Speaker 2: you sill no boundies. None of the prize was being
Speaker 2: touched Mister Boundie. Same thing. A lot of the toke
Speaker 2: the last few days was like, hey, if we do
Speaker 2: this again, just make it a mister Bounie series.
Speaker 1: I was I heard that too, the players say that,
Speaker 1: and I was honestly surprised, because while I understand the
Speaker 1: appetite and enthusiasm for the poker playing community to be
Speaker 1: attracted to mystery bounties, right you have that lottery aspect,
Speaker 1: that luck factor, you get to sweat the envelope like
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, I just thought that, like
Speaker 1: professional poker players, which I think the large majority of
Speaker 1: the guys in here are, and not only that, but
Speaker 1: they're like the upper class pro poker players, I just
Speaker 1: thought that they wouldn't care as much for a mystery
Speaker 1: bounty format. I thought all these guys would be more
Speaker 1: PKO yeah than Mystery Bounding. Like, I feel like Mystery
Speaker 1: Bounty is more for the common folk because they kind
Speaker 1: of they like they're playing poker kind of recreationally for fun,
Speaker 1: and part of that fun is having that gamble element.
Speaker 1: And what's more gamble than busting someone and pulling an
Speaker 1: envelope and seeing what you get, Like like that's max gamble, right,
Speaker 1: So I was surprised to see so much love for
Speaker 1: the Mystery Bounty format specifically.
Speaker 2: You know, I just thought that the PKO.
Speaker 1: Would be something that they all were like, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: pko's the better one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that obviously has a lot of success
Speaker 2: in the PLO series doesn't correlate to No Limit, and
Speaker 2: you know, as these guys explain why, it makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. So yeah, we'll definitely make those changes.
Speaker 2: But you know we're going back to, you know, the
Speaker 2: Banning series. We saw so many new faces in here
Speaker 2: on that event one we would just say, oh, this
Speaker 2: could be good. So there's obviously definitely an appetite for
Speaker 2: a Bannie s is knowing that you see someone like
Speaker 2: you know, Jason Hicky comes out plays every event obviously
Speaker 2: thinks that the main finale event five. A lot of
Speaker 2: other people playing events here that are not you know,
Speaker 2: we go that Drake Kemper played all six events. He
Speaker 2: doesn't really play in the studio at all except maybe
Speaker 2: a Pokemasa's you know opening event, et cetera kind of thing.
Speaker 2: You know, even Mike Zulka, who had a good World series,
Speaker 2: doesn't often play in here, plays a little bit here
Speaker 2: and there, but he played, you know, all six events.
Speaker 2: He got Andrew Kelso always here for the mixed game series.
Speaker 2: Never expect him to play anything but mixed games, but
Speaker 2: he was like out here, he played four of the
Speaker 2: they played five of the six events. So I would
Speaker 2: say Andrew Ostupchenko, yep.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's kind of got that new money
Speaker 1: coming off a huge summer. You know, he's popped into
Speaker 1: the studio before, but he was here for the full series.
Speaker 1: John Andres also has popped into the studio before, but
Speaker 1: he was again here for the full series. So you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely a positive takeaway, you know the fact
Speaker 1: that we got some some new blood in here, you know,
Speaker 1: every single day plane So so that was good to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, we'll tweak it for twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: whenever we can fit that in and figure it out.
Speaker 2: I think we got a lot of positive comments about
Speaker 2: this little little trophy here. Tried something new, this is uh.
Speaker 1: I just think it needs to be a little bigger.
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be like sitting down, I've
Speaker 1: already told you all this same down, like I don't
Speaker 1: like this little thing here, but it's still it's still
Speaker 1: like cool.
Speaker 2: Basically, we kind of audibled pretty light because the originally
Speaker 2: was going to be a treasure chest. And that's the
Speaker 2: reason we have all these hundred dollars bills, these plocks,
Speaker 2: fake under plaques because they were going to go in
Speaker 2: the treasure chest. And so you could open the treasure
Speaker 2: chest and it was filled with hundreds, right, and we
Speaker 2: get sized it accordingly.
Speaker 1: And then this is what happens, guys, when you put
Speaker 1: this guy in charge of the budget. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: we got. We got treasure chests, we got floating skulls,
Speaker 1: we got we got not expensive, and then we got
Speaker 1: plaques with his face on it. Why not his face,
Speaker 1: Tim's face, hal.
Speaker 2: Boy, Tim, to be exactly, we have more are of
Speaker 2: Kerry once we made this logo, we made the quick
Speaker 2: change to do something relative to the logo. We had
Speaker 2: a three D printer three D printing company make these,
Speaker 2: so they don't really make trophies. Shout out printer world.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we didn't really know how to put on
Speaker 2: a base. We didn't really the next obviously, if you
Speaker 2: can kind of see, is pretty thin. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think they came out all right. Look, they were not
Speaker 2: that expensive at all, compared to like the gold cups
Speaker 2: we've liven out significantly cheaper. I think they were a
Speaker 2: little bit more fun. I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, this is kind of cool. Really want
Speaker 2: to skull trophy. But yeah, I think that was kind
Speaker 2: of one of the positives that came out, even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't perfect. But we put it all together in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks to get these overall in the series.
Speaker 1: You know, I can I can make arguments that are positive,
Speaker 1: I can make arguments that are negative. So that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna straddle the fence. I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you ball sides. And the positive side
Speaker 1: of me is that I think it's good to try
Speaker 1: new things. I think it's good to try and innovate,
Speaker 1: if that's the word here, not that you know, having
Speaker 1: a poker series isn't necessarily innovative, but innovating in the
Speaker 1: way of you have a whole series, a higher stake
Speaker 1: series dedicated towards bounties and all different kinds of bounties.
Speaker 1: So you know, you can't innovate without testing the waters.
Speaker 1: And I think that this was a good test case here.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to take steps forward or find
Speaker 1: things out, I think you have to be willing to
Speaker 1: take some risks and kind of take leaps of faith,
Speaker 1: which I think we did here, which is fine. Also,
Speaker 1: I think that you know, being in the booth all
Speaker 1: week and watching the final tables, the bounty format created
Speaker 1: a lot of entertaining moments, a lot of fun hands.
Speaker 1: There was you know, a bunch of threw away all
Speaker 1: ends at times, like people being like, oh, I'm going
Speaker 1: to gamble because we have the bounty, all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. In the mystery bounty element, you got the
Speaker 1: exciting bounty pulls. So you know, from like a broadcast
Speaker 1: and an entertainment standpoint, you know, I think that the
Speaker 1: bounty product it adds a bit of color to everything,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, the viewers that tuned in
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. It kept things pretty fast paced overall. There
Speaker 1: was one final table, the third or fourth one, that
Speaker 1: was a little bit slower than the other ones, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, the bounty prizes I think drove
Speaker 1: a lot of the action, which is good. And listen,
Speaker 1: you're not I think it's foolish to ever think that
Speaker 1: you're going to bat a thousand in anything that you
Speaker 1: do in life, not just what we do. So expecting
Speaker 1: that everything is going to be a home run, I
Speaker 1: think is just wildly silly. You know, sometimes you're going
Speaker 1: to try something and it's not going to work like
Speaker 1: you had hoped. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep
Speaker 1: trying new things. And that doesn't mean, you know, this
Speaker 1: should just be like thrown away because it didn't work
Speaker 1: one time. Maybe we tinker with it, we bring it back,
Speaker 1: you know, and we see how it goes the second
Speaker 1: time around. If we don't see improvement from there, then yeah,
Speaker 1: then maybe you can and it's just not working. But
Speaker 1: and overall, you know, I do think it kind of
Speaker 1: hel helps us get that going on the PGT, which
Speaker 1: I think is a pretty decent thing. You know, It's
Speaker 1: in a way, it's kind of like the mid season
Speaker 1: PGT kickoff, Like the PGT kickoff series isn't exactly like
Speaker 1: a barn burner right out of the gate when we
Speaker 1: kick off the season. I mean, it's it's it's decent,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's not not a major it's not
Speaker 1: you know, shattering entry records here in the studio, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's still a good way to start easing in
Speaker 1: to the series. And with that kickoff, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of times you and I talk about how it's
Speaker 1: trying to get like newer blood into the studio. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they get a bunch of PGT points and then they
Speaker 1: continue on throughout the season. Yeah, same sort of thing here.
Speaker 1: You know, we saw a lot of new faces, which
Speaker 1: I think is a pretty big positive here, and hopefully
Speaker 1: some of those players, you know, continue to try and
Speaker 1: battle on. You know, I look at somebody like Jason Hickey,
Speaker 1: just because he won an event, so he's top of mind.
Speaker 1: He got you know, a chunk of PGT points for that,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a chunk of money to almost one
Speaker 1: hundred K. So you know, maybe we see a Jason
Speaker 1: Hickey take to pg Venetian, you know, take to Poker Masters.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's firing some napt high roller stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: and now he's like taking more shots on the PGT
Speaker 1: in the studio, et cetera. So so yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's the positive take. The negative take is, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that the market speaks loudly at times, and
Speaker 1: you should tend to listen to the market. And I
Speaker 1: think the message from the market here was pretty clear
Speaker 1: that they weren't interested in this series.
Speaker 2: Now we can debate why they weren't interested.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was simply they weren't interested because the schedule
Speaker 1: was jam packed and they chose to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But that would tell me that like, Okay, this series
Speaker 1: wasn't big and attractive enough for them to skip whatever
Speaker 1: they were doing and come to this, right, So you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's the negative side of things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, overall, I'm happy with it. I do.
Speaker 1: I do think it was a good enough series that
Speaker 1: I can say that I think people missed out. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe they missed out because you had some bad scheduling
Speaker 1: and we can hopefully adjust that in the future. But
Speaker 1: you're also never going to one hundred percent get around
Speaker 1: scheduling just with so much that's going on in poker
Speaker 1: these days, So you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't for this series specifically, you can't
Speaker 1: really move it up somebody, you know, somebody might have
Speaker 1: a home right now, be like, well what about August?
Speaker 1: Trust me, no one wants to touch poker in August really,
Speaker 1: like everyone's over. Yeah, everyone's just kind of over from
Speaker 1: the WSP, Like they're all just like resting and relaxing
Speaker 1: until it's like you basically takesally you battle for six weeks,
Speaker 1: then you take like six weeks off just chilling.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's some seminal stuff and whatever, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, people are kind of chilling, and then you know,
Speaker 1: right at the end of August early September comes in,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we're back, you know. So just doing
Speaker 1: anything in August tends to just flop per experience, So
Speaker 1: so yeah, anything else on the Blitz?
Speaker 2: Do you like the name? I like the logo, the
Speaker 2: logo logol name. We through some stuff around this seem
Speaker 2: to fit most you know, obviously if we do do it,
Speaker 2: mister Bounty series maybe it's a it's another name change,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's really a problem. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just don't know about a Mistery Bounty series. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it would work if we time it right,
Speaker 2: I think it would be good.
Speaker 1: I think you also have to have some lower by
Speaker 1: like a thirty three hundred.
Speaker 2: Like a thirty three hundred opener, and then like some
Speaker 2: fives and tens is the way to do it, to
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, maybe that would work. Who that comes?
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk on this uh PGT fantasy quickly
Speaker 1: and then we'll get on We'll get.
Speaker 2: On out of here. So ways, where were they on
Speaker 2: the level? We're my voice too?
Speaker 1: On the last episode, Tim and I did a quick
Speaker 1: draft between us. We drafted five players each for the
Speaker 1: second half of the PGT season. But there are some
Speaker 1: you know, rules and caveats that come with it. You
Speaker 1: can drop you, okay, you have to drop one player
Speaker 1: after each series. So after the PGT Bounty Buez, we're
Speaker 1: going to drop a player right now, After PGT Venetian,
Speaker 1: we're gonna drop a player. After Pokemasters are gonna drop
Speaker 1: a player. So you got to drop someone and you
Speaker 1: to pick someone up. Then from the other four players,
Speaker 1: you select two that are untouchable, and then we do
Speaker 1: a swap from the other two player you can swap one.
Speaker 1: So if I say, like two of my players are untouchable,
Speaker 1: from the other two, you can say, like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna swap you this guy for that guy.
Speaker 2: Now the untouchable is just for the next series, right, So.
Speaker 1: That's the untouchable, as I'm saying, are like right now,
Speaker 1: like when we swap, you can't swap with using those
Speaker 1: two players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then the next time I could switch the untouchable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can switch them. Yes.
Speaker 1: So the teams I drafted Alex fox and Jeremy Becker,
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman, Adam Hendrix, and Michael Wang, of which two
Speaker 1: of those people aren't even on this continent, which is
Speaker 1: a problem. I have no idea whe Nick Shulman is.
Speaker 1: I know he went Okay, Well, Alex Foxen and Michael
Speaker 1: Wang are for sure at Trton.
Speaker 2: I think Shulman's there too, see.
Speaker 1: I just I just I've seen like stuff like updates
Speaker 1: or social media with Alex fox In same with Michael Wang.
Speaker 1: I have seen nothing with Shulman. I know Sherlman went
Speaker 1: to Cyprus. I just don't know if he actually then
Speaker 1: went to Trite and if he did, I just haven't
Speaker 1: seen any updates or anything, or maybe I just haven't
Speaker 1: looked hard, but I haven't seen anything, So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's there, if he came back, he's not
Speaker 1: playing this series, I don't know. I would think that
Speaker 1: Shulman's look the type of guy where if he was here,
Speaker 1: I think he would play this anyway. So I'm guessing
Speaker 1: he's there and I just haven't seen it. Adam Hendricks,
Speaker 1: I think, came back.
Speaker 2: Here, texted me saying he was coming back to play.
Speaker 2: The Bounding series didn't play.
Speaker 1: Exactly so, and I thought he was gonna be playing too.
Speaker 1: He is getting married soon, but I thought this series
Speaker 1: would fit in his last poker Hurrah before he goes
Speaker 1: and goes the whole wedding honeymoon thing. So don't know
Speaker 1: where the heck he is. So those are my five.
Speaker 1: You have Jeremy Osmaschino, Reim, Sam Silverall, Jesse Lonis, and
Speaker 1: John Reordan. Now, in terms of attendance at this series,
Speaker 1: four of those guys played.
Speaker 2: I crushed it. I crushed the.
Speaker 1: Osbes played one event, Gino Reem played everything. Sam Silverell
Speaker 1: played a handful. I don't know if it was all
Speaker 1: of them. Jesse Loonis didn't play. He's a Triton and
Speaker 1: I believe he's a chip leader with like one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty left. Of course he is of the Triton one.
Speaker 1: And then John Reordan was here as well. China Raim's
Speaker 1: the only one who did anything. Yeah, he won the
Speaker 1: one event, beating Jeremy Becker coming out of it.
Speaker 2: And the scoring system that we're using was just using
Speaker 2: PGT points, just a way for us to talk shit.
Speaker 1: I joked on the last pod that I would drop
Speaker 1: Jeremy Becker entering like the PLO stuff. He heard it,
Speaker 1: texted me at like one in the morning telling me
Speaker 1: I was going to drop his ass. He said, I
Speaker 1: lit a fire under his ass. And then he goes
Speaker 1: in final tables five of the six events here at
Speaker 1: PGT body Blitz. So I mean, we ain't dropping Jeremy Becker, okay,
Speaker 1: especially with PGT Venetian coming up. Who are you going
Speaker 1: to drop? By the way, the points are one to
Speaker 1: eighty five for me, seventy four for you.
Speaker 2: Now we're just drofting for Venetian, right, and then we
Speaker 2: drop for Pokemasas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're dropping someone to draft for a Venetian, the
Speaker 1: whole Venetian series, so that main event and then the
Speaker 1: high Line, anything that counts for anything that counts for
Speaker 1: whatever events.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesse Lionis, see you later. Okay, Jesse Lonis, see
Speaker 2: you later. Well who you who you're picking out? Well,
Speaker 2: you need to jump something first, I think, okay, you
Speaker 2: want to do that. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I have no idea if I don't know when, I
Speaker 1: don't even know when trade ends.
Speaker 2: It's you just it's still going while the nation goes.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm dropping Adam Hendricks because I
Speaker 1: just wow, Okay, well when's his wedding?
Speaker 2: I have no clue. I'm can he play Venetian? Is
Speaker 2: that official? Can he play Vetian? I don't call him
Speaker 2: up right now? Sure?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm dropping Adam Hendricks. He's probably gonna he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna somehow play Venetian, probably.
Speaker 2: Win a high roll or something. Yeah, okay, are we
Speaker 2: going to do the pick ups first? And then we
Speaker 2: protect or do we protect from that current fall? No?
Speaker 2: No pick pick up right now, Okay, I'm gonna pick up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I got a few names.
Speaker 1: You drop Jesse Lonas correct, Okay, great, right?
Speaker 2: Who you adding? I'm gonna add Michael Burke. Wow, that's
Speaker 2: a fucking good one. I had a few names on
Speaker 2: my list. That's a really fucking good one. You know what.
Speaker 2: Fuck it. I'm gonna add Sam Laskowitz. Good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he said he said Today I heard
Speaker 1: him say that he was the best vanilla tournament player
Speaker 1: in the world, which I couldn't tell he was serious
Speaker 1: or not, which I thought was he meant vanilla because
Speaker 1: he was like they were joking. A lot of them
Speaker 1: were joking like the whole time that like they didn't
Speaker 1: really know exactly how to do everything in tournaments or
Speaker 1: sorry mystery or bounty tournaments. So then he was saying
Speaker 1: vanilla tournaments, I'm like the best in the world, which
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was serious, and I think he.
Speaker 2: Was a kind of It was a pretty fun, fun
Speaker 2: timele They're all kind of chulling each other.
Speaker 1: But then Jeremy Becker was like, you know, like the
Speaker 1: goat basically is right here, Andrew Lick, he's chocolate. He
Speaker 1: said he wash, Yeah, but he said he was chocolate.
Speaker 1: But still whatever. Anyway, all right, so I add Sam Laskowitz,
Speaker 1: you added Michael, I dropped Anim HENDRICKX for Laskowitz, You
Speaker 1: dropped Jesse Lonis for Michael Burke. All right, cool, I
Speaker 1: gotta protect Okay, let's let's I'll let you decide on
Speaker 1: this rule because I didn't put it in the rules.
Speaker 2: So whatever.
Speaker 1: For let's say, for Poker Masters, are Lonus and Hendricks
Speaker 1: available again?
Speaker 2: But you said you have it there? What does it
Speaker 2: say they're they're available for the next series. They have
Speaker 2: to basically have a series off, so yes, you could.
Speaker 2: Where does it say that? But I said immediately, Yeah,
Speaker 2: pick up immediately. That's fine.
Speaker 1: So they're back in the pool for posters. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, now you got to tell me your two
Speaker 1: players protect are protected, and then I will possibly switch
Speaker 1: one of mine for yours.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be you can't. Yeah, I'm protecting John
Speaker 2: Ryorden and Michael Burke. No, you can't protect Michael Burke.
Speaker 2: That's what I just asked before.
Speaker 1: Well, the so this is great radio, by the way,
Speaker 1: but I don't give a ship Laskowitz and Burke are
Speaker 1: not eligible for this swap thing. Okay, they're They're like
Speaker 1: they're safe. So you got to pick some some somebody else.
Speaker 1: So either osmus China Reim or Sam's overall give me save.
Speaker 2: You. Huh, You're you're locking up sover saver. I'm protecting save. Okay,
Speaker 2: Henry Ordon, so you get like fucking music to my ears.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm going to lock up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm locking out fucking Jeremy Biker. I mean
Speaker 1: he's the goat. I mean, I don't even care who
Speaker 1: I lock up with these other guys. I mean I'm
Speaker 1: locking at Nick Schulman.
Speaker 2: I would have also jumped Wang and kept Hendricks because
Speaker 2: at least Hendrix is here. I mean he may play
Speaker 2: a high roll up.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I am thinking that there's a chance.
Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance that Michael Wang hops
Speaker 1: on a plane tomorrow to get back here for something
Speaker 1: like the PGT Venetian series, as opposed to the guy
Speaker 1: who is about to get married and didn't even play
Speaker 1: this series, plays this.
Speaker 2: Series, excited to play the upcoming try and park a
Speaker 2: super high rolls see all the stuff, whatever it does,
Speaker 2: I've seen it all he's missing half a Pokemon. I understand,
Speaker 2: but these guys are flaky, man, trust me, they are flaky.
Speaker 2: All right? Who are you gonna swap? You don't? Okay?
Speaker 2: So I didn't have to suck, right, Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't have to if you don't want Okay. So
Speaker 2: I have to either salk with Alex Fox and Huwayan
Speaker 2: here or Michael Wang Huayn here, and I can't take Lasco.
Speaker 2: It's so I'm not swapping anybody, okay.
Speaker 1: Cool, Well, I'm swapping Alex Fox in for Jeremy Osmas.
Speaker 2: Okay. See, Like the thing is with Ozma's he's here.
Speaker 2: I mean he was talking to me. He's like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to travel anymore. I just want to be home.
Speaker 2: And then he skipped every event about the first time.
Speaker 1: I bet he saw the numbers and I was like,
Speaker 1: this isn't worth my sight.
Speaker 2: But like I'm wondering, like is he gonna get out
Speaker 2: of bed for a three K? That's like, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure is he gonna get is he gonna get out of.
Speaker 1: If not, I'm going to his house. I don't know
Speaker 1: where he lives, but I'm gonna find me. We'll find
Speaker 1: him I'm gonna he's walking.
Speaker 2: Uh, he sometimes walks down the street where I take
Speaker 2: the street. I go down and take my kid to go.
Speaker 2: I've seen him like walking in like he's alloyed pants
Speaker 2: and a white vest with his wife. Well there you go.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So the new teams are I have Jeremy Osmas, Jeremy Becker,
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman, Michael Wang, and Sam Laskowitz. You have Alex Foxen,
Speaker 1: Chino Reem, Sam's overall, John Reordan and Michael Burke.
Speaker 2: And one hundred and eleven one hundred and one points.
Speaker 2: Wait night, no, you have seventy four. You have seventy four.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I'm behind.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. All right, cool, you got
Speaker 1: anything else because we can just get.
Speaker 2: Out of here. If you don't know. PGTAV The Nation
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Classic thirty three hundred dollars mayn Event three
Speaker 2: starting flights starting on Thursday, September eleven. You have two
Speaker 2: hundred dollars discount if you're on time. Kicks off at
Speaker 2: eleven ten am on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Get down
Speaker 2: play million dollar guarantee. I'm definitely playing the three hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty dollars satellite on the Wednesday night at five o'clock,
Speaker 2: trying to get mine's definitely playing the tournament. You're definitely
Speaker 2: playing the tournament. If I win my seat, I'm playing
Speaker 2: one A. And then I've got to go down to
Speaker 2: Orange County to beat the Orange County Giants in some
Speaker 2: auzi RULs football on day one B. But whatever, But yeah,
Speaker 2: come down and play, come support. You know, I think
Speaker 2: the fact that Venetian is willing to a put up
Speaker 2: a million dollar guarantee on a new event B give
Speaker 2: players two hundred dollars rake discount is absolutely massive. And
Speaker 2: if you know, spread the word, get your friends, tell
Speaker 2: people to come support that, because you know, if it's successful,
Speaker 2: they all keep doing a rake discount on these midsteaks.
Speaker 2: I guess you can call them midstakes tournaments, and they
Speaker 2: may set a precedent going forward for other casinos to
Speaker 2: do the same. It's great for players. It gets the
Speaker 2: event going, gets cards in the air, gets tables field,
Speaker 2: So it's definitely a really positive step forward. And the
Speaker 2: other thing with this event that you brought up today
Speaker 2: that I completely forgot about. It's seven handed. You don't
Speaker 2: really see that often, you know, we hear a lot
Speaker 2: of complaints about nine handed and ten handed play. You
Speaker 2: don't really see the ten hand play anymore, but nine
Speaker 2: handed so much. You know, obviously we play eight and
Speaker 2: then play down to seven. They're just seven handed the
Speaker 2: entire tournament.
Speaker 1: So I mean, they they might go to a should
Speaker 1: they need it, but I don't think that they're gonna
Speaker 1: need it because they have fifty tables there, yea that
Speaker 1: they can use. The streaming room will be one of
Speaker 1: those tables, yeah, because they are streaming all the days.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing maybe not for the first flight, but
Speaker 1: I'm guessing for maybe the Friday flight. I would say
Speaker 1: almost for sure for the Saturday day fight. They're probably
Speaker 1: gonna cancel or delay the cash games for a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, like they do. They say, Okay, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna the cashimes are gonna end at ten thirty,
Speaker 1: you know, the terms kicking off at eleven ten, you know,
Speaker 1: at like one o'clock or two o'clock, we'll start opening
Speaker 1: up some cash game tables again, or however it goes,
Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see, but seven handed throughout. I'm
Speaker 1: excited for that. I'm excited to battle. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: good fun. I would join you in those satellites, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to Disneyland. Damn, oh rich is this not
Speaker 1: rich at all? Disneyland is a fuck ton of money.
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. But you know, this has been a long
Speaker 1: time coming. And yeah, so I'm sure we haven't done
Speaker 1: it in a while. But I'm hoping I'll have a
Speaker 1: family pot I.
Speaker 2: Actually have a family pot story. Oh but no, no,
Speaker 2: we're gonna still save because something has to develop from Disneyland.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have two kids running around MENI so I goes.
Speaker 2: So I've been telling all my family post stories to
Speaker 2: to you know, Jim and Antonio out there, but it's
Speaker 2: related to Disneyland. I think it's pretty funny, but we'll
Speaker 2: save it for post Venetian pod. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Sweet all right, cool Houston, Duckworth. I'm Donnie Peters and
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you guys next time.