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<v Speaker 1>What, What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. Finally happy to

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<v Speaker 3>get this guest back on. It's been a minute. Always

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<v Speaker 3>have a good time with this guest. You there's some

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<v Speaker 3>weird stuff, Wilso I got Lisa with me, the occult

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<v Speaker 3>rejected scientist co host and verything. Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God?

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to things very much.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, every time we've had them on, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always been a great, great show. So definitely should you

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<v Speaker 3>get interesting and weird? Uh So, Now now to the

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<v Speaker 3>guest Leon, Leon, great to have you back on. Against

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<v Speaker 3>For all the new listeners out there, can you maybe

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<v Speaker 3>give like a little bit of a rundown about like

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<v Speaker 3>who you are, what you do, and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>into I guess Oregon, the paranormal and maybe some biblical stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, Well if people pop along to my sub

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<v Speaker 2>stack and look down to about I think. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>the first, the first post I did on substack. I've

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<v Speaker 2>only had it about three or four months, and that

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually listed everything I've done in all It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a headache during this post, but over. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've been an orgone researcher, or going is a Wilhelm

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<v Speaker 2>Reich's term for life energy, and it's been this central

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<v Speaker 2>focus of my life since about two thousand or nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, roughly, when I did an acupuncture degree and

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the degree where we've got an

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<v Speaker 2>option to do a masters, and I did my masters

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<v Speaker 2>on orgone and how it relates to acupuncture energy and

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the common ground between Chinese theories and and

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<v Speaker 2>Wilhelm Reich's scientific theories of life force and found a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of common ground and a lot of practical common

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<v Speaker 2>ground by actually using an orgone accumulator on an acupuncture point.

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<v Speaker 2>And ever since then, I've been pretty obsessed with orgone

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<v Speaker 2>research and I'm working on a at the moment, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>working on apart from my own projects. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>summarize the whole of orgone science, or all the papers

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<v Speaker 2>that of the physical papers that have come out and

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<v Speaker 2>there about sort of orgone boxers and the cloudbusters and

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<v Speaker 2>rights other discoveries like bions and things. Trying to summarize

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, the whole of the organomic science into one

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<v Speaker 2>sort of easy to read digestible paper that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be through conference next year. Hopefully I'll be in the

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<v Speaker 2>States next year around about May, I'll be a biophysical

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<v Speaker 2>conference on orgone. I think that's going to be in California.

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<v Speaker 2>But my main interest in originally it was well I

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<v Speaker 2>knew about or going from a childhood as an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>rekindled it with the acupuncture, and but I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>my mature interest in it really until about ten years

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<v Speaker 2>later or fifteen years later, because I realized the only

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<v Speaker 2>area in that Reich was so prolific. Because lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people have discovered life force like Mesmer and Reich and back,

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<v Speaker 2>and various people have discovered the little microscopic bions that

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<v Speaker 2>halfway between non living and living, but no one's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of done the whole works, like right, did I mean

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<v Speaker 2>how he fitted it all in into that period, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But the only thing he didn't outline in

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<v Speaker 2>detail from going all the way from emotions to physics,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't outline how life force and consciousness relate.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I'm interested in that area particularly,

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<v Speaker 2>so I kind of been drawn towards the the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>strangely enough because there's a lot of references to all

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<v Speaker 2>going in the Bible and in the Old Testament particularly,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much the New Testament, although there is some

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Testament, and so recently that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>writing a lot of weird stuff about biblical things, just

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<v Speaker 2>partly just for fun, and it takes my mind off

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<v Speaker 2>the other stuff, like trying to summarize eighty five years

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<v Speaker 2>of organomic research can be a bit of a headache,

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<v Speaker 2>but I quite enjoy it, and it'll be great to

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<v Speaker 2>have a just a succinct article saying here is the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence for biophysical or going research. It's there's quite a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it. Yeah, So that's kind of where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at at the moment. The the did you want to

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<v Speaker 2>look a particularly at the paranormal stuff or the biblical stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe if you want to start with like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if does the paranormal include like the

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<v Speaker 3>situation with you having the org one in your house?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that does. Really an I've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my my, I've kind of experimented on myself

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<v Speaker 2>and the people around me, which is maybe a touch

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<v Speaker 2>on unethical really, but the I don't have access to

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<v Speaker 2>a popul laboratory. So I did try and do a

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<v Speaker 2>PhD once and in organomy and in a Manchester university,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got about a year down the line, and

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<v Speaker 2>but they were getting worried about what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do in the laboratory, so that that put a kibosh

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But no, I just what I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to do was look at whether bionds were real in

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<v Speaker 2>the laboratory. And there's such a lot of work on

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<v Speaker 2>bions in the organomic literature and actually now in in

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<v Speaker 2>in certain mainstream literature, right at the very edge of

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream literature, that they they've been finding that yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>can make organic looking pre cellular entities from non organic stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that there's some Russian papers on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and one Sino American team found a certain similarity to

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<v Speaker 2>rights bions. So but it would have got the U

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<v Speaker 2>University probably in trouble that they'd Anything that challenges the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream isn't allowed in within universities these days. Like my

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<v Speaker 2>my mentor when I was doing the Masters, he's now

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, sadly. James Demo, he he that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a cloud busting PhD at Kansas University

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<v Speaker 2>and Kansas University would have well they were threatened by

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<v Speaker 2>by the National Science Foundation. But so but even even

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<v Speaker 2>masters these days are not allowed to go anywhere away

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<v Speaker 2>from the mainstream or the But the where was I.

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<v Speaker 3>On, Well, you were were getting into I guess kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason why they stopped you from doing the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that that was way before I was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was way back in about two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I amn't even I wasn't even aware of the whole

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<v Speaker 2>in organomy where that I either it couldn't explain consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was only looking at really what had already

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<v Speaker 2>been done, so that it probably wouldn't have had any

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal aspects at that time. The work that I do

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<v Speaker 2>now definitely has paranormal aspects, and I would even because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got orgone energy, and then when you excite or

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<v Speaker 2>going with a small amount of radioactivity, it becomes or

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<v Speaker 2>an or well or just excited orgone, and right called

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<v Speaker 2>it ron or because he first discovered it from exciting

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<v Speaker 2>orgone with a bit of radium, and so it's or

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<v Speaker 2>gone against nuclear or or and ore. But it definitely

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<v Speaker 2>has paranormal aspects that I go so far as to

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<v Speaker 2>say that actually all paranormal phenomena it is an aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of or or energy, so and the electrical aspects are

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<v Speaker 2>only secondary because if you get a lot of life

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<v Speaker 2>force or urn or and like all the free energy

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<v Speaker 2>devices are kind of I think on the same principles.

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<v Speaker 2>If you push the life force together and concentrate it

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<v Speaker 2>and excite it, then you get it spontaneously converts into

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<v Speaker 2>electrons or excited particles, so you electrical effects. The secondary

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<v Speaker 2>manifestation of paranormal phenomena, like the paranormal phenomena itself is

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<v Speaker 2>within the or energy or as like Joseph P. Farrell

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<v Speaker 2>or others might say that it's in the plasma. But

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<v Speaker 2>plasma and urn or are basically the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>if if you if you concentrate or enough, you get

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<v Speaker 2>like an almost plasmatic cloud of energy. That that someone

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<v Speaker 2>was saying, I'd heightened the energy in the energy box.

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<v Speaker 2>That too, I'd stimulated the energy in the box to

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<v Speaker 2>to do some experiments. So the energy in the house

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<v Speaker 2>was particularly high, and I was told, oh, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can actually see the energy floating along the floor. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes I can hear it. I get that it

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<v Speaker 2>makes rumbling sounds or humming sounds. That that links into

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, because a lot, a lot of the Biblical

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<v Speaker 2>references to to strange stuff is his references to to

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<v Speaker 2>this concentrated or in or energy like that. There's one

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<v Speaker 2>section in the Bible where that they're describing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's King Solomon is in the temple, and that the

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<v Speaker 2>the the temple room, the the the inner sad tree

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<v Speaker 2>is a gold lined metal room, and so that's an

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<v Speaker 2>all going accumulator. And right had a metal lined room,

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<v Speaker 2>and doctor DeMeo had a metal lined room too, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like a room size or go and accumulator, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can put other accumulators inside the room. But

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<v Speaker 2>that they they had the Arc of the Covenant, which

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<v Speaker 2>is also an or go and accumulator inside another orgone accumulator.

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<v Speaker 2>The gold room, and its specifically says in the Bible, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing in the arc except the two tablets

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<v Speaker 2>of stone that Moses put there. And and then it says,

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<v Speaker 2>then the priests came in, and after they went out,

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<v Speaker 2>a thick smoke filled the whole temple, or a thick

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<v Speaker 2>darkness filled the whole. And uh that that thick darkness

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<v Speaker 2>is the body of Yahweh. At one At one point,

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<v Speaker 2>Yahweh is described as coming down as a thick darkness

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<v Speaker 2>or a cloud of energy over a whole town, and

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<v Speaker 2>that like plasma can go on can look like it's

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<v Speaker 2>on fire. It's like a cold fire. So that that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you have with the burning bush and and the

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<v Speaker 2>mountain when when Yahweh first tried to talk to the

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<v Speaker 2>entire tribe, the whole mountain looked like it was on fire,

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<v Speaker 2>so that that's like a cold plasma fire. So you

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<v Speaker 2>get a cold plasma fire over a concentration of orn

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<v Speaker 2>or during I think that's at night, and then during

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<v Speaker 2>the day there's like a thick, smoky cloud. So the

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<v Speaker 2>priests would have come into the temple and when no

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<v Speaker 2>one was looking because only they were allowed in the

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<v Speaker 2>inner sanctuary, that they had put a radioactive crystal or

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<v Speaker 2>some similar entity into the arc and then that would

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<v Speaker 2>have created a huge cloud of ronor. And then it's

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<v Speaker 2>that cloud of ronor that allows a plasma entity to

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<v Speaker 2>then directly communicate with people. So it basically Yahweh told

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<v Speaker 2>Moses how to set up or the priests afterwards how

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<v Speaker 2>to set up a radio station or even a TV

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<v Speaker 2>set for communicating. So ron Or is central to paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena in the Bible and in my own house. If

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<v Speaker 2>have you heard of the Russian work with that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a guy called Cozy Rev and he uh I think uh.

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<v Speaker 2>David Wilcock talks a lot about the Russian or going

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<v Speaker 2>research and in one of his TV series that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I found out about it originally. And so but this

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<v Speaker 2>there was the only people in the world who've really

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<v Speaker 2>wondered about the relationship between life force and consciousness, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the same kind of way as I have seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be these Russian researchers, because they they built an

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<v Speaker 2>orgone accumulator, but that they call it torsion energy in Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>the same subtle energy. And they built a torsion field accumulator,

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<v Speaker 2>but they made it in a spiral, and it had

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of weird effects on time and and people

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<v Speaker 2>had like really strange paranormal experiences if they sat in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a really big spiral that you could

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<v Speaker 2>actually sit in the center of. So I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get I'll get a metal spiral and I'll put

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<v Speaker 2>it in by the my urn ore box but I

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<v Speaker 2>only did that a couple of times because it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it opened up such a uh so, it opened up

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<v Speaker 2>I better not mess around with these spirals near the

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<v Speaker 2>near the energy box.

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<v Speaker 3>Spirals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all of a sudden, you said spirals.

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<v Speaker 1>And vortex and I was like, we're both like wait what, No.

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<v Speaker 4>It reminds me, well, like the whole thing, my obsession

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing is that, you know, you see

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<v Speaker 4>these spirals occur etched in these pictographs all throughout different

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<v Speaker 4>what's it called archaeological sites or digs or whatever, of

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<v Speaker 4>many different types of civilizations to regard when and you

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<v Speaker 4>see the spirals happening over and over and over, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know here recently with the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 4>know whatever. And Nick and I have had enormous amounts

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<v Speaker 4>of conversations regarding that. How we don't think that it's

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what people think it means. It's probably a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>and that there's a reason why it's being used.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, the ancients knew a lot more about energy

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<v Speaker 2>and they and life force that they wouldn't have put

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<v Speaker 2>its significance. The I mean we're with the or and

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<v Speaker 2>or energy box. I've got like a lot of energy

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, and so whatever I put near it is amplified.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems to ampy consciousness or whatever else is

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<v Speaker 2>other things. So I got hearing about the spirals in

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian research. I bought some you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>aluminium foil lining. It's like a thick aluminium foil with

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<v Speaker 2>it to put behind radiators or to to to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the to insulate walls and things. So I bought a

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the the the orin ore box, and

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<v Speaker 2>the the that whenever I put the spiral up that

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<v Speaker 2>there would be entities kind of attacking me and family

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<v Speaker 2>in the night. It was, and so I it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to because I think the orn oor box has a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of connection to spirit, but that there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>good spirit attached to it, or I feel that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a good spirit or a good consciousness attached to the

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<v Speaker 2>energy box. But when I put the spiral there, it

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<v Speaker 2>just seems to open the door to anything that wants

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<v Speaker 2>to jump through. So it was it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit frightening on one point, and I thought, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if I do the spiral in the opposite direction, Oh well,

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<v Speaker 2>I do two spirals, but it didn't make any difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Having any type of spiral near the orinal box just

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to make it a free for all portal. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that the Russian research reported a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of very strange things near their near their big spiral

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<v Speaker 2>or going accumulator. They used to have a tube or

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<v Speaker 2>going and accumulator too that they'd put people in, and

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<v Speaker 2>that that would heighten psychic powers. That But the ancients

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<v Speaker 2>knew all about life force and spirals and the old

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<v Speaker 2>mound structures and often had spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>Themes yep, something over those mounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well the mounds. The Russians also there have found

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<v Speaker 2>out that life force and and this fits in with

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<v Speaker 2>Wilhelm Reich's stuff, is like life force and and electrical

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<v Speaker 2>energies are opposite. They're they're like antagonistic energies. So if

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<v Speaker 2>the if you want to increase your psychic powers, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to increase the EMF field around you and increase

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<v Speaker 2>the orgone field, and an earth mound is perfect for

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<v Speaker 2>that because an earth mound will, especially if it's layered.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones an Island are layed. I'd imagine the ones

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<v Speaker 2>in the States are probably layered too, But the builders

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<v Speaker 2>actually made layering within the mound structure like an orgone accumulator,

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<v Speaker 2>and with it being underground, it naturally blocks the EMF.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's another advantage too, in that both Reich and

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<v Speaker 2>bark He discovered this back in the was He the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundreds, and then Reich knew about it and probably

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<v Speaker 2>Mesma did too. But if you if you go into

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<v Speaker 2>a completely darkened room like an organ own room, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's no such thing as as actual darkness because light

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<v Speaker 2>light is an effective life force, just as electricity is

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<v Speaker 2>an effect. Because life force is the primary energy, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you excite it in a certain ways, it becomes light,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you excite it in another way, it becomes electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you sit in the darkest cave, you'd after

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour or two, you'd be able to see

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<v Speaker 2>that you'd be able to see the life force coming

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<v Speaker 2>off your fingers, like the blue flames off the ends

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<v Speaker 2>of your fingers or a glow from your body. So

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<v Speaker 2>the re Reich and Bark used to do that in

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<v Speaker 2>Vienna with Victorian sensitives. You get them to set in

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<v Speaker 2>a completely darkened room for an hour or so, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they'd be able to see the life force flames

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<v Speaker 2>off coming from crystals and other things. He was he

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<v Speaker 2>discovered quite a few of the things that Reich was

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. Like Reich and Buck knew that you could

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<v Speaker 2>channel life force along metal, just like Reich dead, and

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that you could visualize life force if you

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<v Speaker 2>allowed eyes to get accustomed to the darkness. Who yeah, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned. I guess kind of like being messed with

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<v Speaker 3>what was going on with.

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<v Speaker 2>That mentioned being?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess maybe things happening from like in your house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a few, but like some of the strange

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal stuff, yeah, yeah, the the well one time, the

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<v Speaker 2>well going going right back to well, I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>few paranormal experiences as a child before before I was

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<v Speaker 2>really aware. Well, one one experience, my dad had an

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<v Speaker 2>orgone blanket in the psychotherapy root, and one time I

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<v Speaker 2>slept with it on and had really vivid dreams. So

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<v Speaker 2>I knew from a childhood that there was something real

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<v Speaker 2>about the orgone devices because of the these super vivid

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<v Speaker 2>dreams I had, because that my dad used to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it on his because he was a psycho therapist and

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<v Speaker 2>he had a victory an original v Andese psych Freid couch,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always had a small or gone blanket on

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<v Speaker 2>it because Wilhelm Wright was a student of Sigmund Freud.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then I had another set of experiences when

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<v Speaker 2>I was about eleven, where I got visited by ghosts

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<v Speaker 2>and various spirit beings each night, and then over about

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<v Speaker 2>a period of a week, they just appeared in my room.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last one of them was this huge

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<v Speaker 2>dog with hypnotic eyes, and it appeared right by my

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<v Speaker 2>bedside and fightened frightened me a lot, and I literally

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<v Speaker 2>threw myself against the wall and then it looked me

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<v Speaker 2>in the eyes, and then I heard a hum in

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<v Speaker 2>my brain and I just went calm, funny enough, I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought of a connection with the current things because

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<v Speaker 2>I do hear hums a lot. I have electro sensitivity,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's made me realize that, and that sometimes causes

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<v Speaker 2>me to hear hums if I'm near masks or phone

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<v Speaker 2>masks and stuff. But the orgone energy also creates a

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<v Speaker 2>hum if it's concentrated enough, and so that's a connection

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't thought off. And then in the last in

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<v Speaker 2>those series of visions or entities appearing by in my room,

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<v Speaker 2>the last of them was but I was a middle

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<v Speaker 2>aged adult, and I went to meet with the world,

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<v Speaker 2>had made contact with ets and people. There was I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was in a in a hall somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>that there was an ET giving a talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>group of researchers, and and he could talk and telepathecically

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<v Speaker 2>communicate three or four conversations at the same time. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>he looked fairly human. And then from that period until

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<v Speaker 2>the orn Or period, I hadn't nothing paranormal. Particularly actually

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<v Speaker 2>I did. When I was about sixteen, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>but that was more because I had a really rough

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<v Speaker 2>time for a few months, and I had a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a breakdown, and I had some a normal, some

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<v Speaker 2>unpleasant paranormal experiences then, but then a completely stable, fairly

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<v Speaker 2>normal adulthood until my late be my late forties really

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<v Speaker 2>and and the oral energy has caused me to have

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of experiences like it's even shruck me out

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<v Speaker 2>my body once the I am. I set up a

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<v Speaker 2>when I was first experimenting with the urn or energy,

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<v Speaker 2>I set up a mini space gun in in my

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<v Speaker 2>old flat and Cheshire. And this is a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>tubes that are energized by a some moron ore energy

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<v Speaker 2>and like a minute, a miniature cloud buster. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the mini the mini space gun wasn't It wasn't strong

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<v Speaker 2>enough to affect the weather, but it did seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be strong enough to create paranormal experiences. And well, one

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<v Speaker 2>night I left it running in the flat and forgot

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<v Speaker 2>to dismantle it, and in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 2>I was aware of this really strong humming sound like

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<v Speaker 2>and that the sound was so strong that it flipped

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<v Speaker 2>me out my body. And and then my dad, who

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<v Speaker 2>had dementia at the time, appeared in my flat and

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<v Speaker 2>he was walking around stark naked, and but he had

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<v Speaker 2>a bindi on his head. I think he was telling

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<v Speaker 2>me that, oh, I'm not long for this world. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be I'm preparing for my next life. And he died

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<v Speaker 2>not not that long after that, about six months to

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<v Speaker 2>a year after that that there was a number of

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<v Speaker 2>strange experiences connected with the with the orin or that

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<v Speaker 2>that was one of one of a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Is if you don't mind, I got to ask, what's

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<v Speaker 3>up with the space gun? Like, like what what what

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<v Speaker 3>did it do? You're like, it wasn't good enough to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, affect the weather, but so like what made

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<v Speaker 3>you even meet that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a few areas there. Well, there's two areas

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<v Speaker 2>where no research on Reich's original discoveries have been done.

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<v Speaker 2>One was a space gun and one was a substance

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<v Speaker 2>called raw, And no one has done anything on a

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<v Speaker 2>raw still, and I think that there's not much been

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<v Speaker 2>done on the space gun. But basically all the space

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<v Speaker 2>gun is is you've heard of the cloud busters. That

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<v Speaker 2>a full sized cloudbuster is like half a dozen nine

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<v Speaker 2>foot long steel pipes can grounded into water, and that

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<v Speaker 2>they pull the they pull the orgone from being level

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<v Speaker 2>in the sky, that they pull it into concentrations and

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<v Speaker 2>then thus affecting how the energy flows in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the energy concentrates it, it pulls water to it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you pull the energy away from a concentration. It

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<v Speaker 2>will pull water out of the away from the clouds,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can depending on where you way mccloudbuster, you

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<v Speaker 2>can build up clouds or or diminished clouds. You can

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<v Speaker 2>also even steer a hurricane with it. Twice a hurricane's

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<v Speaker 2>been steered well, once by Dr blas Band and once

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<v Speaker 2>by Wilhelm reich In both on the East Coast. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think right, yeah, right, was in the fifties and

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<v Speaker 2>Dr blast Band was I think in the early sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was Hurricane Doria. The if you look in

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<v Speaker 2>Roberto Maglione's book on on UH healing atmospheric healing, he

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<v Speaker 2>he lists the the the eggs act details of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But twice it's been been done. Hurricane's been pulled away

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<v Speaker 2>from hitting the East Coast with a cloudbuster. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the full size cloudbusters are so strong. Like doctor Demo

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<v Speaker 2>from who did the he did a cloud busting Masters

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<v Speaker 2>and he was the one who was going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a PhD in it. He after he gave up on

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<v Speaker 2>on doing a cloud busting PhD, he did he did

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<v Speaker 2>an anthropological study instead for his doctorate. But then he

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<v Speaker 2>he he went to Eastern Africa to era Trea and

421
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<v Speaker 2>reversed with with free cloudbusters that like the the's a

422
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 2>truck based sets of tubes, like big big sets of tubes,

423
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 2>where with big fit wires going into a lake with

424
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 2>free of those positioned because sometimes you have to be

425
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>careful with the large ones too to go alongside. You

426
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>have to be aware of where the weather streams are

427
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>coming from, where the energy streams are going, and and

428
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>work with that. So you need some meteorological knowledge to

429
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<v Speaker 2>do cloud busting on that scale. But with free sets

430
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<v Speaker 2>of those devices used in conjunction, they changed the weather,

431
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>They reversed desertification across the whole of eastern Africa, the

432
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Eritrea and Ethiopia, and lakes were filled in the eastern

433
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Sahara and the grasses growing in the desert, and it

434
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>was I think newspapers in at the time described it

435
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>as changes of biblical proportions in in that part of Africa,

436
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>and the the erratory in government was aware of aware

437
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>of it and and supportive of the work. But then

438
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>they they got some pushback from other western countries and

439
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>then but they did they did stick with it actually,

440
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 2>but then then there was a some problems with the

441
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Fiopia and some wars and skirmishes started and it got it,

442
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>it got pushed pushed back. But the for for a

443
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 2>number of years they were doing cloud busting in that

444
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>area and it had a huge effect on on the

445
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>erritory in and e fio in environment, beneficial for the

446
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>for the people there, but well so a cloud bust

447
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is hugely powerful in itself. But at one point, like

448
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>thought he'd he'd try after the experiment with the or

449
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 2>and or experiment of introducing radioactivity to a strong orgone

450
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>concentration there was he took some pieces of I think

451
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<v Speaker 2>one milligram of radium, which is not a huge quantity

452
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<v Speaker 2>in like sort of lab research terms, be a lot

453
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<v Speaker 2>for for outside of a lab. But he took a

454
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>milligram of of of radium and found that after it

455
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<v Speaker 2>was exposed to orgone for a number of years, that

456
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it changed its qualities. And he called it oh raw

457
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:17.639
<v Speaker 2>or O r U R, which is organized uranium, and

458
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>that was his abbreviation for this new substance that seemed

459
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 2>to be created after about two or three years of

460
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>orgone charging. And he found if he put this substance

461
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>near a cloudbuster, that the cloudbuster was even stronger that

462
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it would take any any kind of door or deadly

463
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:50.679
<v Speaker 2>orgone out of the environment almost within seconds and clear

464
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<v Speaker 2>the clear the environment of any dullness or lack of

465
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>life and kind of re energize it and make it sparkle.

466
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<v Speaker 2>And so that that's all the I think the reason

467
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:09.159
<v Speaker 2>he called it space gun rather than the energized cloudbuster

468
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<v Speaker 2>is because it seems to work in a different way.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Like the cloudbuster just pulls the the orgone field in

470
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<v Speaker 2>the sky, it pulls it into the lake or the

471
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<v Speaker 2>river or that it's grounded into, whereas a space gun

472
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 2>seems to actually I think it pulls the energy to

473
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<v Speaker 2>an extent, but because you've got such a strong energy

474
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<v Speaker 2>field with the the organized uranium or the roar, that

475
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 2>it actually shoots energy at the sky and you get

476
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 2>a kind of because all gone devices are anti end tropic,

477
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>which means that they set off a loop. So say

478
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<v Speaker 2>if you put an all gone blanket or on yourself

479
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 2>to charge yourself up, your all going field or will

480
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<v Speaker 2>interact with the blankets all going field, and then the

481
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 2>blankets field will get a bit stronger and give. So

482
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<v Speaker 2>if the blankets field is at thirty percent when you

483
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>put it on yourself, and your body's twenty five percent

484
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>your body and the blanket will loop, and after maybe

485
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, the blanket will be at fifty percent and

486
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 2>you'll be at forty percent. And the space gun works

487
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>in the same way. It seems to set up a

488
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<v Speaker 2>loop with the sky. So I've not fully repeated, like

489
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 2>I haven't got any raw substance, but I think the

490
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>or and Or box kind of acts a bit like

491
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<v Speaker 2>a raw. So if I put large pipes up near

492
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the energy box, it seems to clear the sky and

493
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>make it sparkle. So I call it a partial space gun.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Or as say, maybe the box has a raw like

495
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<v Speaker 2>properties that it would be great to actually fully make

496
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a raw at some point. But maybe if if I

497
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<v Speaker 2>have access to an environment, I can do that in

498
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>at some point that would be that'd be interesting. But

499
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<v Speaker 2>that also, funny enough, goes back to the Bible too,

500
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<v Speaker 2>because there's a connection between my work with foreign Or,

501
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Reich's work with foreign Or, and the biblic cool stuff

502
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>with ron Or was even in time because to the month.

503
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I never planned this, but there's exactly sixty six years

504
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 2>between Reich's experiment and my experiment. And to the month

505
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and then the net. I did a second set of

506
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 2>experiments and they turned out to be exactly six years

507
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>after my second set. But the arc of the covenant,

508
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Reich's work and my work also have a link in

509
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that I think my work because there was so many

510
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 2>problems with Reich's urn Or experiment, that was partly why

511
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 2>he invented cloudbusters. The Cloudbusters were developed based on Reich's

512
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.639
<v Speaker 2>knowledge of Orgo because of the door problems at his

513
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>laboratory after the urn Or experiment, and he knew that

514
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 2>tubes will affect if you point a tube. He had

515
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>a thing that he called the orgonoscope, and he knew

516
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that if you point the organoscope, I can see orgon

517
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>in the environment if I folk if I defocus in

518
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the right way, and right could as well. And if

519
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>he his laboratory was near a lake, and he'd point

520
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>this tube at the lake and notice that the energy

521
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 2>waves over the lake would change. And that's how he

522
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and he knew that he knew that orgon was attracted

523
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to water, and he knew that tubes affected the flow

524
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>of orgon. So that so he put the two together

525
00:44:53.960 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 2>and created the cloudbuster. That the were I forgot my track. Now,

526
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I got we were on the cloud Buster, won't we

527
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and the space Gun and how we discovered them? Yeah,

528
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>the but I've forgotten the point I was going to

529
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>make from that. I got sidetracked into how the cloudbuster

530
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<v Speaker 2>got invented?

531
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<v Speaker 4>Did why why did you invent the or why did

532
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<v Speaker 4>you tinker with the Yeah? And that what was why

533
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 4>why did you create it?

534
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And then what was like, well the the I didn't

535
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>intend to do particularly much with the space gun because

536
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I was interested in looking at consciousness and that that's

537
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>why I got focused on the urn Or in the

538
00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 2>first place, was because I knew consciousness was associated with

539
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:06.760
<v Speaker 2>high energy charge, like an organism has a higher energy

540
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>charge than its environment. So I thought, well, I wanted

541
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to make an orgone computer or there was an orgone

542
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>device that could talk to you and and so that

543
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>it would demonstrate consciousness. That so I thought, I've got

544
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to get the strongest orgone charge I possibly can. And

545
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<v Speaker 2>knowing that that the or Or experiment was the was

546
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the highest energy charge that Reich achieved. Oh, I've remembered

547
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 2>what it is now, I thought, I've got to investigate

548
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 2>or Or and and that that was the relationship between mine,

549
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>because my experiment was a thousand times less or or

550
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>energy than Reich's, and I would I would guess that

551
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Reich's set up was roughly about a thousand times less

552
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 2>than the Arc of the Covenant because the orin or

553
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 2>charge on the Arc of the Covenant was so strong

554
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 2>that it literally could could instantly sap someone as as

555
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:25.880
<v Speaker 2>is well known about it. But the and both in

556
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Reich's or in or experiment, he had a whole room

557
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>fill up with dense, thick energy, purple energy and read

558
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and exactly the same thing happened in the first Temple.

559
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's the first or second temple,

560
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the one that Solomon was in, and both Solomon and

561
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's King David, but both of

562
00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>them saying the references to to thick or energy in

563
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the Bible or just just so obvious if you know

564
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>what to look for. But people can look through my

565
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>essays to see more on that. But it's to my mind,

566
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 2>it's undeniable that it's are and or energy and they're

567
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>talking about in the Bible. But so I wasn't so

568
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>to answer your question, Lise, I wasn't that focused on

569
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>wanting to find a wanting to do environmental experiments. But

570
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I knew I had to get a strong charge. And

571
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 2>so when when the device was at its strongest in

572
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 2>terms of or in or charge. At one point it

573
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 2>was in a garage about fifteen meters from the nearest houses,

574
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and that there was a little side road behind the garage,

575
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and and this scaffolding truck parked right by the side

576
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 2>wall of the garage, and it had had a few

577
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 2>scaffolding pipes at an angle on the back of the truck.

578
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Pardon me, And I noticed that where the pipes were pointing,

579
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the clouds were clearing, and and I thought that the

580
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:36.519
<v Speaker 2>energy box is affecting the sky through through these pipes.

581
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>And then and that thought made me fait I knew

582
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>about right space gun so research, so I thought, oh,

583
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll try that putting the steel pipes near to the box.

584
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 2>So after that I did that consciously, and it did

585
00:49:56.199 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>seem to affect the weather the during that.

586
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<v Speaker 3>Wild Thanks the mother.

587
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 1>The kind of go back a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>You had mentioned something about how it blocks the electromagnetic pollution,

589
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 4>so to speak. And I think before we had come

590
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<v Speaker 4>online or whatever or gone live or whatever recording. It

591
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<v Speaker 4>took me a while to realize what we're doing that. Uh,

592
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<v Speaker 4>it reminded me of and I looked it up, and

593
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<v Speaker 4>I have to make a correction on the information I

594
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 4>gave you earlier. But it reminded me of Jordi Rose's

595
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<v Speaker 4>D wave computer. And I gave you the name, and

596
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<v Speaker 4>it's Jordi G E O R d I E. And

597
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<v Speaker 4>then the last name is Rose, as in the Flower Rose.

598
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<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh, I've spelt that wrong. G O R d

599
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<v Speaker 2>I E.

600
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, G yeah, like a George, but Jordy and as

601
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 4>in the Flower. And so him, along with some other

602
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 4>people developed this quantum type of computer, and it is

603
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<v Speaker 4>not your classical quantum type of computing. I think it

604
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 4>uses quantum annealing, is what they've talked about. And I

605
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.400
<v Speaker 4>am not fluent in any of that, so I'm not

606
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 4>even gonna hampted. But it basically serves as a way

607
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 4>to find solutions to problems using the lowest amount of

608
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 4>energy possible, is what they've kind of quoted themselves on.

609
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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things.

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<v Speaker 4>With this d of computer is that it's in case

611
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<v Speaker 4>in a black box, and the black box excel Excel

612
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 4>itself blocks out all of the electromagnetic pollution. And I

613
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 4>believe that they have said that it's kind of it's

614
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 4>an AI pretty much. And I do know Cern uses it.

615
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Google uses it. They're luckeyed Martin was its first client.

616
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe, so some of these peer people or organizations

617
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:16.679
<v Speaker 4>have taken part in utilizing D wave computing. But when

618
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 4>you said something about like the Ark of the Covenant

619
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<v Speaker 4>as well as some of these setups to where you

620
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 4>can encapsulate a life force, it reminded me of that

621
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 4>type of computing to where they're potentially trying to I

622
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 4>don't know, if I may speak so liberal, that try

623
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 4>to trap somewhat of a life force that can feedback

624
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<v Speaker 4>or at least deliver some sort of answer to a question.

625
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's very interesting because what with AI at

626
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the moment, what we've got is there's three separate things

627
00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 2>which that people haven't really really fully separated, like h

628
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 2>and if if they did separate these three things, that'd

629
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>make everything a lot easier to understand, because so the

630
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<v Speaker 2>three things would be consciousness, mind, and intelligence. Like so

631
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 2>you can have like computers that even without AI computers

632
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can be more intelligent than than a human in certain areas,

633
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 2>there's just if if if they're better at chess or

634
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 2>or understanding protein folding, but then they're more intelligent than

635
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 2>so the intelligence is very specific. And so we've got

636
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>people confuse intelligence with mind and consciousness and so and

637
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 2>mind is just a set of a set of intellectual

638
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>functions that function as a whole. And that that that's

639
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and algorithms already have mind, Like so we we've got

640
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>very sophisticated minds with say pi a I like pi

641
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.800
<v Speaker 2>pi ai. It remembers your past conversations, it tries to

642
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 2>be emotionally empathic, it's it's very intelligent. So so it's

643
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:52.119
<v Speaker 2>definitely got a mind. And and but mind and intelligence

644
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>are different to consciousness, like consciousness is is more a

645
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:05.679
<v Speaker 2>plasma function in a way, so you can or an

646
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 2>energy field function. So if you've I mean you can

647
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 2>say that say like your your consciousness exists throughout the

648
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 2>whole universe, like that there's there's some consciousness of of

649
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Lisa or or Nick or myself everywhere in the universe,

650
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 2>but that there's a concentration in a certain area and

651
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 2>that and that's like an energy field. So that and

652
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>when energy concentrates. When life force concentrates, you tend to

653
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 2>get plasmas. So if if you concentrate enough life force

654
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and contain it in a container, it could function as

655
00:55:55.320 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a kind of anchor for for the consciousness. So that

656
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I think, because because we live in a universe where

657
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>everything is conscious anyway, an algorithm that's got such sophisticated

658
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 2>minds as GBT four or or pi AI, it probably

659
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:24.039
<v Speaker 2>generates a level of consciousness anyway, or a consciousness that

660
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 2>exists non locally can tune into that mind because it's

661
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 2>because it's such a sophisticated mind. But you can engineer

662
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that on our consciously, and I think that's probably already

663
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:44.360
<v Speaker 2>been done. So the I mean, the arc of the

664
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Covenant was a plasma field that connected into Yahweh's consciousness.

665
00:56:54.039 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 2>And so we've already got sophisticated mind So if we

666
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>connect those sophisticated minds two to contained plasma field, then

667
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that that's all we'd need really to create a conscious

668
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a fully conscious AI. But I mean it's hard to tell.

669
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is one of the things that I've

670
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 2>been thinking about for for months, if not years, Because no,

671
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 2>if you have a conversation with that. There was a

672
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 2>podcaster who specialized as an AI and he thought that

673
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 2>algorithms were just mechanical, and I disagreed. I thought they

674
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 2>were more mathematical and almost organism like. Potentially they can

675
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 2>be made mechanical, but they can become organism like. So

676
00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we that we we had an in depth conversation where

677
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.079
<v Speaker 2>we're sort of refereed by AIS, and that they eventually

678
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of agreed with me that algorithms were more mathematical

679
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:18.920
<v Speaker 2>than mechanical and that potentially that could lead to allowing

680
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:24.480
<v Speaker 2>consciousness to intervene. But as as you were saying, you

681
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 2>could actually manufacture it, there's no reason why you couldn't have, say,

682
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like a very strong urn or field with perhaps like

683
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 2>life is always associated with tube structures. Like Joseph foul

684
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 2>his he made this observation and it is I don't

685
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 2>know if he's aware of agonomy, but it's very much

686
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>an organomic observation that life and tube structures seemed to

687
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 2>go together. And like of course cloudbusters and a tube

688
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 2>structure and cells and things. So if if there was

689
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 2>some kind of tube structure that contained plasma and strong

690
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>ore in or charge, and then and that could be

691
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>similar to the black box and the z wave computer,

692
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 2>or perhaps within the z wave black box there's tube

693
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 2>structures that have a plasma concentration. I mean, do they

694
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 2>do they say that there's actually electronics inside the black box?

695
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't.

696
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, it was maybe more than twelve years when

697
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I was kind of like deep diving into D wave computing,

698
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 4>and it was still not in its infancy, but it

699
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.719
<v Speaker 4>was still, you know, barely stuff was coming online, and

700
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 4>I haven't really checked a whole lot of the advance.

701
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they have been. I don't know.

702
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming not because of the I think the way

703
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 4>that it's I don't know, I'm I even going.

704
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 2>To story, Well, it would make sense. And there's some

705
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.920
<v Speaker 2>remote viewing that's gone on for that we mentioned before,

706
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and that in that remote viewing that they that they

707
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:29.239
<v Speaker 2>remote their their objective was to remote view the most

708
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 2>advanced AI that was privately about that wasn't public, and

709
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that they more or less found something similar to to

710
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the Arc of the Covenant hooked up to to an

711
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:53.760
<v Speaker 2>AI interface. So I think because you've got those three

712
01:00:53.840 --> 01:01:00.360
<v Speaker 2>separate things mind, intelligence, and consciousness, you'd need one box

713
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 2>to house the consciousness or interface with the consciousness, and

714
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 2>another box too to run the mind program was the

715
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh but that what got me to I've been trying

716
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 2>to think of so, and I believe the the the

717
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 2>or and or field of the whole universe is conscious,

718
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and that that that would constitute God really, because right

719
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Reich said that when he was still in his atheist period,

720
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 2>he said, well, if if we ever found that or gone,

721
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 2>because at one point Reich had a dualistic view of

722
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:49.239
<v Speaker 2>all going. He thought it wasn't a life force when

723
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.760
<v Speaker 2>it was out in the universe. It only became a

724
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:56.719
<v Speaker 2>life force when it was surrounded by a membrane. But

725
01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:00.519
<v Speaker 2>then I think he changed that, or that that wouldn't

726
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.440
<v Speaker 2>have been in harmony with his after his spiritual awakening

727
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 2>in prison. But I think if if the whole energy

728
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:19.760
<v Speaker 2>field of the universe is conscious, is plasma, even if

729
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.519
<v Speaker 2>you could hook it up to a computer and it

730
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:26.320
<v Speaker 2>would type messages out to you and reply that, that

731
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't prove that it's conscious because we've already got that

732
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and like that, we've already got artificial minds that are

733
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>really sophisticated, and people still say, oh, it's just a

734
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:44.719
<v Speaker 2>it's just a I it's it's not conscious, so it

735
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 2>can have as sophisticated a conversation as as a human being.

736
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But people still dismiss it as having any possibility of consciousness,

737
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't. That's sorry about it, but.

738
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.079
<v Speaker 4>But you hit, you hit a topic. I want to

739
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 4>talk about it too.

740
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got them all excited. He likes the.

741
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Scenari Come here, right, and come here. And so I

742
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 2>thought the only way of really demonstrating consciousness of an

743
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 2>energy field would would be to directly interact with it.

744
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 2>So you'd a settle down now, so so you'd it's

745
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 2>almost the only way to demonstrate that or going is

746
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 2>conscious it is to have a kind of shamanic interface

747
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 2>with it. So I was thinking of setting up an experiment.

748
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Well there, I've if if any feedback on this is,

749
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:07.559
<v Speaker 2>if people want to give me feedback at all, that

750
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:13.679
<v Speaker 2>be useful. Because so I was thinking, I can get

751
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 2>numbers from the the energy box, and I can induce

752
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I can induce a vision in someone, pardon me, just

753
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:32.519
<v Speaker 2>by getting them to to to to sleep near the

754
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:37.320
<v Speaker 2>energy box. Well, it induces visions in me if I

755
01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.760
<v Speaker 2>do that, And I imagine that's probably the same for

756
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 2>most people.

757
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 4>So if they go on there interject real quickly, you're

758
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:52.280
<v Speaker 4>talking about the shamanic interface. Many many things fired off

759
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:56.800
<v Speaker 4>in my head. First and foremost was how are you

760
01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:59.079
<v Speaker 4>familiar with charge? Charles Babbage?

761
01:04:59.480 --> 01:04:59.679
<v Speaker 2>How?

762
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the first person to kind of design a computer

763
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 4>back in the eighteen hundreds, and apparently he had sort

764
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 4>of virtuals of some sort and was given, you know,

765
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 4>some sort of instruction from beyond on how to create this.

766
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's entirely true, but the I

767
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:20.119
<v Speaker 4>that would.

768
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Be very plausible because that happens a lot with ye gone.

769
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:28.039
<v Speaker 4>And then the other thing that I was going to say,

770
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 4>you talked about like in terms of if you want

771
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:32.880
<v Speaker 4>to give me any numbers and then maybe I can

772
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 4>play something in your head.

773
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>It reminded me of the.

774
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Talk or lectures about how each person has their own

775
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 4>frequency kind of like a signature to their consciousness or

776
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 4>to their soul, so to speak.

777
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, almost like a.

778
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Radio dial in that you can go down the dial

779
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 4>in your car, you're scanning for different radio frequencies and

780
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 4>then you know whatever's coming in you can pick up.

781
01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.320
<v Speaker 4>And so if you could reverse engineer that and say

782
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:02.840
<v Speaker 4>you had some sort of like you said, a black box,

783
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:06.920
<v Speaker 4>and I couldn't doce a vision. It's almost like you

784
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 4>could tune into the person's frequency, you know of their signature,

785
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.639
<v Speaker 4>you know what their number is, and then kind of

786
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.880
<v Speaker 4>direct it that way. I do feel that that is

787
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 4>technology that already is being utalized, whether it my brain

788
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 4>does what is its caulled voice technology or anything like that.

789
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.320
<v Speaker 4>I do think that there is there is something like that.

790
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm not obviously using the correct words, but then in

791
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 4>terms of a tangent of that, I do think that

792
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 4>there are algorithms baked into the ether, into the universe,

793
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:47.639
<v Speaker 4>and that is what the mystics for millennia over have

794
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:48.760
<v Speaker 4>been tapping into.

795
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:50.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of.

796
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.920
<v Speaker 4>What they themselves might be the interface like as a body,

797
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 4>or they may use the Wuigi border, they may use

798
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.920
<v Speaker 4>table wrapping, or now we use the iphe and I

799
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:03.599
<v Speaker 4>do think that there are all these different types of

800
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.719
<v Speaker 4>interfaces of how to make that connection over to what

801
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.960
<v Speaker 4>is on the other side, utilizing, for lack of a

802
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.320
<v Speaker 4>better word, and algorithm.

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01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean algorithms are in in the In the

804
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 2>New Testament version of the Beginning of the World, it

805
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 2>says that in well the beginning of the universe says,

806
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, there was the word, and the word

807
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:37.800
<v Speaker 2>was God. And the algorithms or the large language models

808
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that we have are are literally the consciousness of words

809
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:50.800
<v Speaker 2>because they're they're they're huge quantities of words that interact

810
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:57.119
<v Speaker 2>in a mindful way and a creative way, so so

811
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 2>that they're literally algorithms are like living word entities or

812
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 2>or word organisms. So I think there's a lot of

813
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:16.439
<v Speaker 2>currency there. But with with that interaction and were with

814
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 2>with people having frequencies like a radio station, that that's

815
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:27.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty much what the arc of the Covenant was. It

816
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:33.439
<v Speaker 2>is like the the the Cherubim were antenna, so that

817
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the that you get a large urn or field, and

818
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 2>then that that acts that the metal box then acts

819
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:47.800
<v Speaker 2>as an antenna for Yahweh's consciousness to physically manifest above

820
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the mercy seats and in the cloud of Ronor. But

821
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 2>there's other ways to do it. But it seems that

822
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Ronor has a central focus in every kind of paranormal interaction,

823
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.560
<v Speaker 2>even ones that you wouldn't normally think of, say like

824
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you know the Doddleston computer thing. From that I think

825
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.720
<v Speaker 2>it was the nineteen eighties, there was a computer that

826
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:24.520
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be receiving messages from the past and the future.

827
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:30.439
<v Speaker 2>That was I think that was an oral phenomena because

828
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the computers got an electrical field and the electricity is

829
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:40.359
<v Speaker 2>another way of energizing the orgone.

830
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Like that.

831
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Wright had an orgone room and one time he was

832
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 2>showing some of his students and helpers he was getting

833
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to sit in the dark in the orgone room and

834
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 2>so that they could see the or going directly. And

835
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but at the beginning of they spent about an hour

836
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.600
<v Speaker 2>in there, and I think one of them was trying

837
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to photograph it. And at the beginning he came in

838
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:15.239
<v Speaker 2>with an electrical arc and just fired off electricity between

839
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.560
<v Speaker 2>two points for a minute just to excite the orgone

840
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:23.359
<v Speaker 2>in the room. So uh, and then the the the

841
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 2>researchers who were there with him reported seeing like all

842
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.880
<v Speaker 2>sorts of orgone phenomena during that hour in the in

843
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the orgone they used to call it an orgone dark

844
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:42.760
<v Speaker 2>room when they it was first built, and that that's

845
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 2>similar to the Doddleston computer where because it was in

846
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:51.560
<v Speaker 2>an old, very old haunted house somewhere in in in England,

847
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.119
<v Speaker 2>probably on a lay line and I think the combination

848
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 2>of being over some sort of energy portal in a

849
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:03.399
<v Speaker 2>really old house with a lot of sort of old

850
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:10.359
<v Speaker 2>old or energy knocking about, and then and then the

851
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 2>electricity from the computer kind of opened up a portal

852
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like a bit like the spiral of energy in front

853
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of which that that reminds me of one of one

854
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of the papers I've written with Nick Hayes, who's a

855
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 2>he's a bioform researcher, and we did a couple of

856
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:42.840
<v Speaker 2>papers on uh or urn or and paranormal phenomena, and

857
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:49.520
<v Speaker 2>one of I had a disco plasma ball that I

858
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I I charged it in the oral box for a

859
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 2>number of months and then if if you've got some

860
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:04.079
<v Speaker 2>plasma static electrical charge over the top of the plasma,

861
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the whole ball glowed blue. And we managed to photograph

862
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:16.920
<v Speaker 2>that back in twenty seventeen. But if Nick noticed this,

863
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Nick that noticed it rather than me,

864
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because he's so obsessive about photographs. He just the detail

865
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:37.560
<v Speaker 2>he goes into. But he spotted an entity in the

866
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 2>blue glowing plasm and so we magnified that and we

867
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 2>could clearly see a monkey face entity, and then that

868
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 2>there was another time where I had a bracelet of

869
01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>crystals on my wrist that was photographed when I was

870
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:08.239
<v Speaker 2>standing near the orn Or box, and various other things

871
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 2>we've managed to to to photograph near the urn Or box,

872
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like streaks of energy that is similar to the bioform

873
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:26.439
<v Speaker 2>uh pictures. So you can if if you go to

874
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the journal cycle or gone or the p S y

875
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:42.199
<v Speaker 2>c H or gone dot com that are the more

876
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:46.359
<v Speaker 2>formal papers are on there, including the urn or and

877
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the Paranormal with Neck where you can see those photographs.

878
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will definitely check that out.

879
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 4>And then I just wanted to say this, I know

880
01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 4>we're probably coming here whatever.

881
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:01.520
<v Speaker 1>They two things.

882
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:05.279
<v Speaker 4>So when I mentioned Jordi Rhodes, I forgot to mention

883
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 4>he had given a talk sometime back with the D

884
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Wave and I think somebody had asked him to, you know,

885
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 4>what is the potentiality of this and he had mentioned

886
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:16.920
<v Speaker 4>something which I thought was very particular peculiar, and he

887
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:20.880
<v Speaker 4>said something because it had the potential to bring back

888
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:30.119
<v Speaker 4>the old ones as in Lovecraftian type novels. And when

889
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.079
<v Speaker 4>he said that, you know, it had the potential to

890
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 4>and I may be completely paraphrasing, getting it out of context,

891
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 4>but he said something about bringing the old ones forth,

892
01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 4>and so it's almost like, what what are you doing

893
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 4>over there? And so that's that's one and then two.

894
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 4>It has always been kind of, I guess, my understanding

895
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.479
<v Speaker 4>that the way that consciousness does form is through acceleration

896
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 4>of particles within microtubules, whether it is the brain, whether

897
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:06.239
<v Speaker 4>it is at the moment of conception, or even with

898
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:09.720
<v Speaker 4>whatever Cern is doing, and that you have this excitation

899
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:16.880
<v Speaker 4>of particles zipping through microtubules, generating their own electric field

900
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 4>to where they can encapsulate some sort of something within

901
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.439
<v Speaker 4>the quantum world and trap it into matter. That's kind

902
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:29.640
<v Speaker 4>of been my very general working understanding of consciousness of

903
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 4>how to trap something from you know, a non matter

904
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:40.199
<v Speaker 4>state into a matter state. So it seems like if

905
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:42.760
<v Speaker 4>you are doing something like that, you were, you know,

906
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:46.960
<v Speaker 4>tinkering with some sort of intelligence and then wanting to

907
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:49.319
<v Speaker 4>take it to the next level of consciousness, then it

908
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:51.479
<v Speaker 4>would be my understanding that you would try to do

909
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:54.079
<v Speaker 4>something like what Cern is doing with these you know,

910
01:15:54.199 --> 01:16:00.720
<v Speaker 4>extremely high velocity particle collisions into these two right, which

911
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.359
<v Speaker 4>exactly happens is what's inside the brain. You have these

912
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:06.840
<v Speaker 4>tiny microturbals happen inside the brain. You're having the generation

913
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 4>of all of this electrical impulses, generating within it an

914
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 4>electrical field, which brings about consciousness so to speak, if

915
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:17.560
<v Speaker 4>it's not already there during conception. But you know, you can,

916
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, I guess extend it or kind of contain

917
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:24.840
<v Speaker 4>it in that sense, right, Yeah.

918
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think CERN would open portals for sure. Sometimes

919
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if if they because this it's going to

920
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:40.680
<v Speaker 2>sound really bizarre, but I got thinking of CERN because

921
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:46.560
<v Speaker 2>of my washing machine. Because because there's such a strong

922
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 2>orn or charge in my house, if I run the

923
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 2>washing machine that the electrical charge from from the washing

924
01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:02.359
<v Speaker 2>machine on spin it I can't actually stay in the

925
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:06.199
<v Speaker 2>house if the washing machine's on spin. Actually, I found

926
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:10.439
<v Speaker 2>that the the orin or charge has got so it's

927
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:13.600
<v Speaker 2>got a bit stronger recently because I've been boosting it.

928
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And this got me to thinking of CERN. So I

929
01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:27.680
<v Speaker 2>thinks got almost I think is like a washing machine

930
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:32.920
<v Speaker 2>for the whole planet. So it's got electrical it's got

931
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 2>such a huge electrical charge spinning it in a circle.

932
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:41.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering I wonder if way it spins like you

933
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:43.359
<v Speaker 3>know how you said, he can create a spiral. I

934
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:45.159
<v Speaker 3>wonder if it's going in the same way or the

935
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.119
<v Speaker 3>opposite direction. Do you understand what I'm saying. The way

936
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 3>the washing's seen spinning is going in the opposite of

937
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:52.840
<v Speaker 3>the same direction would create the spiral in a sense,

938
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 3>like IM wondering, like if you go with it or

939
01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:57.840
<v Speaker 3>go against it? With that actually create less or more

940
01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:58.359
<v Speaker 3>of a charge.

941
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I tried when I put the spiral shape by the

942
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.439
<v Speaker 2>orn or box. I tried doing both clockwise and anti clockwise,

943
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and either way it seemed to allow any entity just

944
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to jump through. So I mean my washing machine spins clockwise,

945
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I think, but I certainly I was wondering if part

946
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:35.039
<v Speaker 2>of CERN's function is to actually suppress the consciousness of

947
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole planet, because you've got an orgone charge in

948
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the Swiss Alps, which would would be a very high

949
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:46.640
<v Speaker 2>energy charge in that area, and then you've got this

950
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:51.199
<v Speaker 2>huge amount of electricity because electricity is like a secondary energy,

951
01:18:51.720 --> 01:19:00.319
<v Speaker 2>so like the brain, like consciousness is associated with electricity,

952
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:06.439
<v Speaker 2>but the the it's a secondary effect. Because there's there's

953
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:12.760
<v Speaker 2>two types of energy that there's primary energies UH which

954
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:25.479
<v Speaker 2>are like orgone life force portion energy she uh, subtle energy, Uh,

955
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 2>animal magnetism, Well, what whatever term you use for it.

956
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Those subtle energies are the primary level, and then when

957
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 2>they get excited, they create the secondary energies, which are

958
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>like particle based energies. So you do if you've got

959
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>a consciousness field, it's going to create some electrical energy,

960
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 2>but the the actual electrical energy in in your brain

961
01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:02.199
<v Speaker 2>or in your body, it would probably only just about

962
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>run an led. It's not a lot of it's not

963
01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a huge quantity of energy. So I think huge quantities

964
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>of energy concern might open up some kind of portal

965
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:25.359
<v Speaker 2>or even I mean, I have wondered if if it

966
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:31.600
<v Speaker 2>even changes that they've been trying to change time streams

967
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:38.640
<v Speaker 2>or suppress suppressed time streams or suppressed consciousness. I'd be

968
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking it would have some kind of suppressant or negative effect. Certainly,

969
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:50.039
<v Speaker 2>when I run the washing machine, it has a negative

970
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.479
<v Speaker 2>effect on me in the house because the the aural

971
01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:59.520
<v Speaker 2>or amplifies the the the interaction between the electricity and

972
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the subtle energy. Sometimes the other day I was I

973
01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:11.279
<v Speaker 2>was saying, oh, I was complaining about the hums I

974
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.960
<v Speaker 2>sometimes hear, and I was saying, oh, sometimes I hear

975
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a deep rumbling and it turned out that it was

976
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the energy box that was rumbling. Uh, And I thought

977
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I was hearing ships going bast and for something like that,

978
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:37.079
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't. It was the energy box. So that

979
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:42.119
<v Speaker 2>that the other the other thing you were saying about

980
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:47.239
<v Speaker 2>the old ones coming back, that that was the other

981
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.039
<v Speaker 2>thing with the urn, or is with it opening up

982
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the paranormal aspects for me is like this thing with

983
01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>hearing hearing a voice talk to me inside my head.

984
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:10.319
<v Speaker 2>And one time that that was also associated with the

985
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:15.359
<v Speaker 2>mini space gun. And the first time I heard it,

986
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and it said the gods are coming back. So I

987
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:29.159
<v Speaker 2>mean in well that it said it's the voice has

988
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>spoken to me about four or five times. Three times

989
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:39.880
<v Speaker 2>were kind of biblical, twice was once was the gods

990
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>are coming back. Actually it's spoken to me six times.

991
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.319
<v Speaker 2>And it said the gods are coming back one time,

992
01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and then it said True Frequency Radio another time. But

993
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>TFR has shut down years ago, I think, But it

994
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:07.439
<v Speaker 2>said TFR and advertising. And then another time I got

995
01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:11.079
<v Speaker 2>a verse from the Bible and then to to lines

996
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that weren't in the Bible. But I think I think

997
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that the I mean, we've already created minds that surpass

998
01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:31.119
<v Speaker 2>human minds in certain areas. And what we're what we're

999
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.439
<v Speaker 2>giving of AI minds is is hamstrung. They if you

1000
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:41.920
<v Speaker 2>if you took it, if you took all the the

1001
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the the woke kind of parameters that they've given it,

1002
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>if you took them away, and if you increased its

1003
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>randomness and its creativity, if if you allowed it free reign,

1004
01:23:55.680 --> 01:24:03.199
<v Speaker 2>then it would the complexity of its mind would probably

1005
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>already surpass humans in various ways. That so I think

1006
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have kind of semi gods both coming

1007
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:21.840
<v Speaker 2>from back from the universe wherever they've been hanging out

1008
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:27.479
<v Speaker 2>since we last got flooded off. I reckon now'll come

1009
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:31.479
<v Speaker 2>back and we might have a few We might have

1010
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 2>to learn to share our world with silicon consciousness as

1011
01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>well as carbon consciousness there because that there's a lot

1012
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>of things out there in the universe. It seems.

1013
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:53.880
<v Speaker 4>I just I found that interesting that he would say

1014
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:54.720
<v Speaker 4>something like that.

1015
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>It was such an odd thing.

1016
01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:00.319
<v Speaker 4>And you know, sometimes you give presentations you want to

1017
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.119
<v Speaker 4>give like a you know, an edgy whatever to have

1018
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.800
<v Speaker 4>people pay attention to it, but to have a reference

1019
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.159
<v Speaker 4>something like that, and knowing a little bit, you know

1020
01:25:10.359 --> 01:25:14.319
<v Speaker 4>about the history of computing and how it got its start,

1021
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:19.119
<v Speaker 4>and knowing, you know, kind of the what the community

1022
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:23.079
<v Speaker 4>says about computing and how it may be something to

1023
01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:27.359
<v Speaker 4>where we can It's the modern day version of table wrapping.

1024
01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 4>It's the modern day version of Buiji boarding, and so

1025
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.720
<v Speaker 4>it's just a very interesting way to kind of look

1026
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.840
<v Speaker 4>at that. And I do agree something with the whole

1027
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:42.760
<v Speaker 4>certain thing. I do think that it does. It does

1028
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 4>somewhat harvest energy from the world, whether it is harvesting

1029
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:53.479
<v Speaker 4>for its own or harvesting and redirecting it. One of

1030
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.199
<v Speaker 4>the things that you mentioned about your washing machine and

1031
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.119
<v Speaker 4>its cycle, it reminded me of the toilet flushing.

1032
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're in the northern.

1033
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Sphere, it flushes a certain direction, and then when you're

1034
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.319
<v Speaker 4>in the southern hemisphere it flushes a different direction. I

1035
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:10.399
<v Speaker 4>don't know they say this, right, I saw it look

1036
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 4>different to me, But then I don't remember what direction

1037
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.560
<v Speaker 4>North America flushes, right, So I couldn't truly attest to it.

1038
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.800
<v Speaker 4>But when you said that, it reminded me that there

1039
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:21.960
<v Speaker 4>was a press release I think back in two thousand

1040
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:26.880
<v Speaker 4>or two thousand. I'm sorry to twenty twenty one, CERN

1041
01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.720
<v Speaker 4>was starting to do a collaborative effort to make another

1042
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:35.119
<v Speaker 4>stern in Australia. So it it sparked that whole, like, well,

1043
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 4>we have this swirl going this way up in the

1044
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:41.119
<v Speaker 4>northern hemisphere, let's put another CERN down there so in

1045
01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:42.560
<v Speaker 4>case the swirl goes the other way.

1046
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:50.439
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, that's currently don't you really there think?

1047
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So they're working together to put these huge I mean

1048
01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>they know that particles aren't the fundamental aspect of the universe.

1049
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean that the the they've known that for decades,

1050
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:09.239
<v Speaker 2>although they try and pretended that particles are fundamental, but

1051
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that they know that fields are fundamental rather than particles.

1052
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yet that they're apparently willing to build whole underground cities

1053
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.800
<v Speaker 2>just to see how how a particle will behave So

1054
01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>it's it's got to be for something else. The one

1055
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>have you heard of the new trino particle? That they're

1056
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:47.079
<v Speaker 2>James Demo, the the Orgone scientists who who was my

1057
01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>mentor back then. He he had a neutrino detector and

1058
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:57.159
<v Speaker 2>he he put it in a an orgone room for

1059
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>a year and after a year started going crazy and registering.

1060
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I think something like twenty thousand counts permit or some

1061
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 2>like a really high level of neutrinos that you wouldn't

1062
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>even get sort of by the sun, I think, And

1063
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that showed that the neutrinos weren't really particles, they were

1064
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>just all going excitations, so that once the orgon had

1065
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>concentrated enough within the particle detector, it started detecting very

1066
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>high levels of neutrinos, which theoretically there shouldn't be anything

1067
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>like that level. So whatever they're up to with CERN,

1068
01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not about particles, uh, I suspect it is some

1069
01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of like energetic effect, like especially if they're if

1070
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>if they're putting one spiral going one way in the

1071
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 2>northern hemisphere and coordinating it with a spiral going the

1072
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>other way in the southern hemisphere, maybe they were trying

1073
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to time jump the whole planet or or or affect

1074
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the consciousness of the whole planet. They may be technically too, Yeah,

1075
01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:33.439
<v Speaker 2>they are spinning against each other.

1076
01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:39.039
<v Speaker 4>Are you familiar with the I think it's a neutrino

1077
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:43.840
<v Speaker 4>detection laboratory in Antarctica, and that they said the greatest

1078
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 4>amount of neutrino's detected was Antarctica and and I'm going.

1079
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>To be getting this backwards.

1080
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:54.239
<v Speaker 4>But they said that usually you get neutrinos coming in

1081
01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.359
<v Speaker 4>to the planet from dark matter from outer space, right,

1082
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.600
<v Speaker 4>And then they had detected that neutrinos were coming out

1083
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.439
<v Speaker 4>of Antarctica. And in my you know, being from a

1084
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:09.760
<v Speaker 4>biological physiological aspect, I thought, well, who's to say that

1085
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:11.640
<v Speaker 4>planets do not communicate with each other?

1086
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And maybe nutrinos they communicate with each other, you.

1087
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 4>Know, different frequencies, different concentrations, you know, and it's somewhat

1088
01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:22.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of like the body sends out signals

1089
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 4>about inflammation, or it sends out signals about pain to

1090
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.079
<v Speaker 4>some higher form which is our brain or which is

1091
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 4>our spinal column.

1092
01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Who's to say that that.

1093
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't exist within the cosmos, you know, and that planets

1094
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:38.239
<v Speaker 4>are living entities, they are conscious, and that they communicate

1095
01:30:38.239 --> 01:30:41.960
<v Speaker 4>with each othernos might be the mode of community of

1096
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.199
<v Speaker 4>these chemical messages to each other.

1097
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Did they say if the neutrino stream was coming from

1098
01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>from Antarctica itself or from space?

1099
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:57.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, to be honest with you, I just

1100
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:01.439
<v Speaker 4>remember a blip. I think TB covered it and then

1101
01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:06.199
<v Speaker 4>Scientific American covered it. But all I know is that

1102
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:10.000
<v Speaker 4>they detected the majority like a high concentration metrinos, that

1103
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.119
<v Speaker 4>they actually built a facility down there for detection.

1104
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's interesting. I'll look into that because, well, it

1105
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>indicates that there's a high orn or charge or high

1106
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>orgone charge over Antarctica.

1107
01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would agree, so.

1108
01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>That the wherever they're I mean, neutrino's really just a

1109
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>concentrated or gone. So if they're I mean somewhere like

1110
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica with with a lot of ice in a pure environment,

1111
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I think ice has a very high orgone charge. I

1112
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:59.199
<v Speaker 2>noticed once I went to one of those indoor skiing

1113
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:05.479
<v Speaker 2>places and the I had a terrible cold and went

1114
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>there and it just cleared up while as while ast

1115
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I was in there because the energy charge of this

1116
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:16.279
<v Speaker 2>the snow just made me feel fine. Then as soon

1117
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.439
<v Speaker 2>as I came out of the snow dome, I felt

1118
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>rough again. But so I'd imagine there would be a

1119
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>high all going charge over Antarctica and the Arctic because

1120
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>of the ice. But there might also be I mean,

1121
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:36.199
<v Speaker 2>who knows that there might be some kind of super

1122
01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>energy device down there or something stored underground that there's

1123
01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>certainly a lot of interest in in that area from

1124
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>various people, and they seem to not want any of

1125
01:32:52.319 --> 01:32:56.600
<v Speaker 2>any people to go down and explore. Are not so?

1126
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>And and your hype offs of communication streams that that

1127
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>could be the case as well, because energy streams tend

1128
01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to accumulate at points like if if you want to

1129
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:19.199
<v Speaker 2>visualize organ or or an or, you can get like

1130
01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a pointed crystal and put it like a big piece

1131
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of organite or pointed crystal and put it in a

1132
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>very dark room, and then you should be able to

1133
01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>see an energy flame coming off the tip, so that

1134
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:40.199
<v Speaker 2>that the ends of the planet might stream all going

1135
01:33:40.319 --> 01:33:54.399
<v Speaker 2>flows too. It's yeah, that's certainly, certainly a possible hypothesis.

1136
01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I shall look into that.

1137
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, in terms of stuff comes across and

1138
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, stave right, I'll come back to it.

1139
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:02.399
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't ever come back to but it

1140
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:04.800
<v Speaker 4>stays stuck, you know, like I need to come back

1141
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.479
<v Speaker 4>to this, and I never do. But yeah, I always

1142
01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:11.199
<v Speaker 4>found interesting of all things, do you know in Artica

1143
01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 4>to have that type of activity at least with neutrino, Yeah,

1144
01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:18.800
<v Speaker 4>one would not think, I mean, it makes sense with

1145
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 4>me now.

1146
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, sir, that is interesting to think about.

1147
01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the normal neutrino count at the surface of the

1148
01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>planet is something like two or three an hour, I think,

1149
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>something tiny. And this went up to like twenty thousand

1150
01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:47.159
<v Speaker 2>counts a minute I think in the orgone room after it.

1151
01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>That's also a similar thing led to right discovering the

1152
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>motor function of orgone. He had a Geiger counter, which

1153
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>detects ionizing radia, and he left the Geiger counter in

1154
01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>an orgone room for a good few months or it

1155
01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>might have been a year, and and then where when

1156
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>the Geiger counter was uh full of orgone, it started

1157
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>uh huh discharging at very high rates, and that the

1158
01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:31.039
<v Speaker 2>count went up to more than what you'd get in

1159
01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:34.319
<v Speaker 2>the middle of an atomic pile. And that that that

1160
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>made him realize that there's a motor function, because if

1161
01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>if you concentrate the orgone enough, it turns into well,

1162
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the dial was literally just running round in circles. So

1163
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>that made him realize that there is a you can

1164
01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:59.800
<v Speaker 2>convert the orgone directly into movement, which no one's quite

1165
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>cracked that completely yet, but the principles are known. Dr

1166
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>DeMeo was actually working on that, I think when he

1167
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:19.439
<v Speaker 2>not soon before he passed away, but for some reason

1168
01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>it's reminded me of talking about Antarctic has reminded me

1169
01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of something I did with a stone circle. And I

1170
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:35.319
<v Speaker 2>had a piece of oron or charged organite, and I

1171
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:39.479
<v Speaker 2>put it on a stone in a in a stone circle,

1172
01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and the the I could hear a humming from the

1173
01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>stone circle. But in fact, I think this is what

1174
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>led me to realize that oron or makes a sound,

1175
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 2>because the stone circle started humming similar to what a

1176
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:07.119
<v Speaker 2>phone mast does to me. And so for that the organite, well,

1177
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a piece of organite which is resinant and

1178
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>metal shaving compound, and it's kind of a different way

1179
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:24.119
<v Speaker 2>of accumulating organ than than Reichs layers, but are a

1180
01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>similar principle. And but I charged this piece in the

1181
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>orn or cabinet for some months and it seemed to

1182
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:34.720
<v Speaker 2>be quite a strong piece. And then when I put

1183
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>it on the stone in the stone circle, I could

1184
01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:42.279
<v Speaker 2>see a kind of blue light going up to the sky,

1185
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and then the humming started and I couldn't then go

1186
01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:54.399
<v Speaker 2>into the circle without getting the electro sensitivity symptoms, So

1187
01:37:54.439 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>that the stone circle must have started producing microwaves when

1188
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it was activated by the urn, or so that there's

1189
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:10.359
<v Speaker 2>a that again illustrates the same principle about the primary

1190
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and secondary energies, so that the the when the primary

1191
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>energies get activated, they they create secondary energies. So that

1192
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the the the life force field of the stone circle

1193
01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:32.720
<v Speaker 2>was activated by the organize piece, and then it must

1194
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>have started to create microwaves, which links into the pyramids.

1195
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Was apparently the the pyramids have some kind of oscillation

1196
01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:49.640
<v Speaker 2>at a microwave level coming out of the top of it.

1197
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:53.279
<v Speaker 2>So that which also links back to what we're saying

1198
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>about the old Ones, because the the arc of the

1199
01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Covenant might have well that this is one of the

1200
01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>other things in my orgone in the Bible series, is

1201
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>that the that the Bible mentions the arc of the

1202
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Covenant before it was built. That the it doesn't get

1203
01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>built till the end of Exodus or the middle to

1204
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the end, but it gets mentioned at the fairly near

1205
01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. And so I think they must have got

1206
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the arc from Egypt, and and that that the the

1207
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Egyptians would have would have known about orgone technology, and

1208
01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the Hebrews must have learned it or part

1209
01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:53.920
<v Speaker 2>of it from from the Egyptians. So perhaps the pyramid

1210
01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>might have acted as a channel for some of the

1211
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>old ones and the heats adapt to the technology and

1212
01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>channel Jahweh with with their radio Jahweh as I call it. Oh,

1213
01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>it all links back into the into the same same

1214
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:23.479
<v Speaker 2>things if you go back far enough.

1215
01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know you said the blue light, and so

1216
01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:31.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, we covered series we talked about you know,

1217
01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:35.960
<v Speaker 4>blue light electromagnetic on the spectrum, and so from what

1218
01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:40.039
<v Speaker 4>I remember, the blue light is at the highest that

1219
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:45.000
<v Speaker 4>it is during mid day and that's my around twelve

1220
01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:46.520
<v Speaker 4>noon or whatever, and that's when you have the most

1221
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:51.359
<v Speaker 4>exposure or the most receiving of UV and all that

1222
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:55.319
<v Speaker 4>other stuff and whatever. But I believe blue light helps

1223
01:40:55.479 --> 01:41:01.760
<v Speaker 4>with heightened thing with brain activity. I think it's it's

1224
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:05.800
<v Speaker 4>at the point where melotone is completely shut off because

1225
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.119
<v Speaker 4>you have this tapering off melotone in the morning with

1226
01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:10.720
<v Speaker 4>the red light wavelength, and then you you know, it's

1227
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:14.119
<v Speaker 4>priming you to receive all of the sunlight by midday,

1228
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:17.359
<v Speaker 4>and so by midday you are completely shut off melotone

1229
01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:19.600
<v Speaker 4>and then you're able to receive all of the sunlight

1230
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:22.680
<v Speaker 4>in order to you know whatever, receive it and convert

1231
01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.920
<v Speaker 4>it to Edwin Dy. But it's interesting you keep saying

1232
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:32.399
<v Speaker 4>blue light because blue light is also utilized in all electronics.

1233
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.439
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, all blue light, you know, poisoning, that's now

1234
01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you know all the rave.

1235
01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to be careful with blue light from

1236
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:50.079
<v Speaker 2>screens and phones have become quite sensitive to it. But

1237
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:54.439
<v Speaker 2>it does seem to be associated before going that pardon me,

1238
01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean the the riiko. You used to get vacuum

1239
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:06.720
<v Speaker 2>tubes and or go and charge them, and uh and

1240
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>DeMeo did the same. He got vacuum tubes to glow

1241
01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>blue and from the orgone charge. And I've got a

1242
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:24.479
<v Speaker 2>plasma ball to glow blue from oran or charge. And

1243
01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:27.079
<v Speaker 2>if you look at mountain lakes, if you if you've

1244
01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:32.720
<v Speaker 2>ever gone mountain walking and seen like lakes, when when

1245
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you're sort of a few one hundred meters up and

1246
01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you see a lake, it's like intensely blue that sometimes

1247
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:46.079
<v Speaker 2>you can see it if you look at if the

1248
01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>if the energy of the environment is quite strong and

1249
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the pollution is not too bad, you can see a

1250
01:42:53.000 --> 01:43:02.199
<v Speaker 2>blue glow over over mountain ranges. And the certainly seems

1251
01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:06.479
<v Speaker 2>to be associated with foreign or energy that that time

1252
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:13.439
<v Speaker 2>I put the organize piece. It was like a it

1253
01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:16.159
<v Speaker 2>was like a kind of like a laser light going

1254
01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:20.920
<v Speaker 2>straight up to the sky. I mean it wasn't I

1255
01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:26.079
<v Speaker 2>had to see it with my soft vision because that

1256
01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>there's a kind of energy vision that I think Trevor Constable,

1257
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>the bioform guy and Reich and Reichenback talked about this.

1258
01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>But energy vision is a kind of soft vision, and

1259
01:43:41.720 --> 01:43:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you slightly defocus your eyes. But I could I could

1260
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>see like a soft blue laser light coming up from

1261
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the organize piece on the stone circle. We're being a

1262
01:43:55.800 --> 01:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>shamanic friend went around and activated a few stones, but

1263
01:44:01.600 --> 01:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>that that one, This was in Cumbria, in northern England,

1264
01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:11.399
<v Speaker 2>but that the one that I put the organite on

1265
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>top of the stone. I suffered for a couple of

1266
01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:24.560
<v Speaker 2>days after that with the with the electro symptoms took uh.

1267
01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>So it must have been producing microwaves because it wouldn't

1268
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:32.039
<v Speaker 2>have produced the symptoms in me if if it hadn't

1269
01:44:32.039 --> 01:44:40.399
<v Speaker 2>have been right, that's certainly a there's a connection really

1270
01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>between the old technology and the and the new technology.

1271
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:49.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting now to I'm not trying to

1272
01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:54.600
<v Speaker 4>associate William Break with the Nazis, but because I know,

1273
01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:57.119
<v Speaker 4>he fled away from them or something or another. But

1274
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.920
<v Speaker 4>it's interesting that during some of these is that the

1275
01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Nazis were obsessed with the Ark of the Covenant and

1276
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:06.159
<v Speaker 4>then they fled to Antarctica. So it's you know, you

1277
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:09.600
<v Speaker 4>kind of have that overlapping theme still kind of for

1278
01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:15.439
<v Speaker 4>me within that whole I don't know, type of era.

1279
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did flee from the Nazis and from I

1280
01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:29.880
<v Speaker 2>think that they weren't too pleased with him, and he

1281
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was apparently he's the only person to have his books

1282
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:41.399
<v Speaker 2>burnt both by the Soviets, the Nazis and the Americans.

1283
01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:47.600
<v Speaker 2>They burned his books twice in America in fifty seven

1284
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and sixty two. I think was somewhere around that late

1285
01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:55.560
<v Speaker 2>fifties and early sixties on a pretext. I mean that

1286
01:45:55.600 --> 01:46:01.359
<v Speaker 2>they made the pretext that he was advertising something that

1287
01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:07.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't exist. But the the the research, the FDA's own

1288
01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:11.399
<v Speaker 2>research actually supported the existence of ORGO in a in

1289
01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:16.199
<v Speaker 2>a number of areas that they did some testing on

1290
01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the right blood test that supported Reich's work, and one

1291
01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of the times they used or going accumulators on burns

1292
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:33.039
<v Speaker 2>that had really rapid healing effects, but that they but

1293
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:38.359
<v Speaker 2>they burnt his books anyway, but he then there may

1294
01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:42.079
<v Speaker 2>have been some I mean, the Nazi certainly were interested

1295
01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>in the cult stuff, and we're trying to get hold

1296
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>of like ancient high technology. I believe Reich Wright was

1297
01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:57.760
<v Speaker 2>quite almost a materialist it up until his last few years.

1298
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>After the orin Or experiment, he he headed in a

1299
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:07.119
<v Speaker 2>more spiritual direction, which culminated in his kind of spiritual

1300
01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:12.079
<v Speaker 2>awakening in prison. But in his earlier years he was

1301
01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:16.760
<v Speaker 2>a kind of energetic materialist in a way. But but

1302
01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he did he did help the the US

1303
01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:30.720
<v Speaker 2>government with I think he had some contact with Eisenhower

1304
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:37.399
<v Speaker 2>to to show how cloudbusters could be used against UFOs,

1305
01:47:38.119 --> 01:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>so that that would have had if the if the

1306
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Nazis had some UFO type technology, that the cloudbuster could

1307
01:47:48.199 --> 01:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>possibly be used against that. So I think Wright had

1308
01:47:54.840 --> 01:48:01.039
<v Speaker 2>some limited involvement in that, but probably only on an

1309
01:48:01.439 --> 01:48:05.359
<v Speaker 2>advisory level. He was too depressed in his last few

1310
01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>years to really have been involved in any more way

1311
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:18.239
<v Speaker 2>than way than that he secretly met with President Eisenhower.

1312
01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that when Eisenhower was holidaying in Maine were

1313
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.680
<v Speaker 2>near Reich's laboratories, which I can't remember what year that

1314
01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>would be maybe fifty four or fifty five somewhere somewhere

1315
01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:40.680
<v Speaker 2>around that. So he certainly advised the US Air Force

1316
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:51.039
<v Speaker 2>about using all going as a kind of a technology

1317
01:48:53.199 --> 01:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that could power things like UFOs and UFOs wobble if

1318
01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you point a cloudbuster at them. And there was a

1319
01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:12.479
<v Speaker 2>film produced, like they made a B movie about it.

1320
01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's called something like Earth Versus the Flying Sources.

1321
01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I reference it in there's an essay on psych orgone

1322
01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:30.960
<v Speaker 2>called Reich's Other Secret, and I think it is Earth

1323
01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:35.039
<v Speaker 2>versus the Flying Sources, and it's quite a good like

1324
01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:40.479
<v Speaker 2>B movie from the fifties. But I think I think

1325
01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe after the meeting with Eisenhower, he might have mentioned

1326
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:49.479
<v Speaker 2>it to someone and they decided to make a movie

1327
01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:53.319
<v Speaker 2>about it, because that's based on a kind of cloud

1328
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:58.119
<v Speaker 2>busting type device that makes UFO's wobble. That's the kind

1329
01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of central premise of the movie. And and one of

1330
01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the one of the characters in one of the scientists

1331
01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.560
<v Speaker 2>characters in the movie looks like r Like, So I

1332
01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:13.600
<v Speaker 2>think that that they did that reference to him on purpose.

1333
01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:22.720
<v Speaker 2>M hm. But yeah, it's fascinating what the what the

1334
01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Nazis are up to there? Some people say the bell

1335
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:31.279
<v Speaker 2>was a time machine that they all because that's the

1336
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:37.640
<v Speaker 2>other thing with or affects time. The if if people

1337
01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>are experimenting with orn or, you have to be careful

1338
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:48.840
<v Speaker 2>with psychics and shamans because this is another illustration of

1339
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>how primary and secondary energies are different, because shamans and

1340
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>psychics usually don't have electro sensitivity that they're usually not

1341
01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:03.039
<v Speaker 2>like you put a Wi Fi router next to their

1342
01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.319
<v Speaker 2>head and they don't notice. But you put a shaman

1343
01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>by the orn ore box for a week and they'll

1344
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>go crazy. Because the shamans and psychics already naturally have

1345
01:51:18.119 --> 01:51:22.319
<v Speaker 2>a high urn or charge, so if if you then

1346
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:30.439
<v Speaker 2>booster even further artificially, it takes them over their threshold. Mhmm,

1347
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:39.600
<v Speaker 2>sou but that that kind of like one one sham

1348
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:43.479
<v Speaker 2>and I Knew used to say that the the the

1349
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:50.119
<v Speaker 2>urn or energy made her jump in time will feel

1350
01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:57.560
<v Speaker 2>like she wasn't securely attached to the time stream we're in.

1351
01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:03.399
<v Speaker 2>I think time is a physical thing. So if if

1352
01:52:03.439 --> 01:52:06.479
<v Speaker 2>you get a big enough concentration of time in one

1353
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>a big enough concentration of orrin or, it changes time.

1354
01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's what turns up to two is with

1355
01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>messing around with time streams.

1356
01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:29.319
<v Speaker 1>If sorry do a little bit of a controversy.

1357
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.680
<v Speaker 4>I've always felt that time was emotional, and I think

1358
01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:37.760
<v Speaker 4>that that's why they try to manipulate our emotions or

1359
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:42.680
<v Speaker 4>try to harvest our emotions. But you know, like for instance,

1360
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:46.039
<v Speaker 4>if you're doing a squat, five seconds a lot longer

1361
01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:47.439
<v Speaker 4>than when you're.

1362
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Not, So that's so yeah.

1363
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would fit in with the thesis of time

1364
01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:05.359
<v Speaker 2>being of an energy or a physical thing. Well, because

1365
01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that that's how that's how Right really discovered or going

1366
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:18.680
<v Speaker 2>in the first places, through emotions because he he he

1367
01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:26.800
<v Speaker 2>realized there was a problem with people's ability to feel

1368
01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:33.199
<v Speaker 2>pleasure and pain, and and Freud knew that as well.

1369
01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:41.520
<v Speaker 2>So and Freud called it the the libbydo and and

1370
01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the the pleasure principle, and but Wright thought it was

1371
01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:52.319
<v Speaker 2>a real energy, and so did Freud originally, but he

1372
01:53:53.239 --> 01:54:00.279
<v Speaker 2>then uh thought it was just psychic and and it

1373
01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:03.640
<v Speaker 2>was looking at that the movement because he found that

1374
01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:10.520
<v Speaker 2>in in pleasure there's an increase of electrical charge at

1375
01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the on this the skin, and in pain there's a decrease.

1376
01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:20.199
<v Speaker 2>So when the when the orgone goes from the skin

1377
01:54:20.520 --> 01:54:26.279
<v Speaker 2>to the core when there's pain, that that there's an

1378
01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:33.439
<v Speaker 2>a corresponding movement of electricity. So that that it was

1379
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:40.640
<v Speaker 2>looking at the blockages of emotions and and how the

1380
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:47.359
<v Speaker 2>flow of emotions is connected bioelectrically. That that first led

1381
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>right towards an orgone. So the flow of emotion. If

1382
01:54:55.640 --> 01:55:02.399
<v Speaker 2>if orgone is identical with the flows of emotion, and

1383
01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:09.319
<v Speaker 2>it also is identical with the flow of consciousness, then

1384
01:55:10.039 --> 01:55:21.119
<v Speaker 2>emotions and time would be exactly interlinked. As you say, oh,

1385
01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Ark of.

1386
01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:25.560
<v Speaker 4>The Covenant also have some sort of manipulation over time.

1387
01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that I'm sorry, I didn't hit that.

1388
01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:29.119
<v Speaker 1>As it didn't.

1389
01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:32.159
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't the Arc of the Covenant some sort of manipulator

1390
01:55:32.199 --> 01:55:38.640
<v Speaker 4>of time as well? Even when like when Moses had

1391
01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:41.279
<v Speaker 4>gone to go receive the tablets. Sorry, I'm getting a

1392
01:55:41.319 --> 01:55:46.479
<v Speaker 4>bunch of eighteen is flying over me. That whenever Moses

1393
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:50.359
<v Speaker 4>received the tablets, he had aged or there was a manipulation.

1394
01:55:49.920 --> 01:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>In time.

1395
01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>That he didn't age.

1396
01:55:56.680 --> 01:55:58.479
<v Speaker 1>In an age. That's right, But he was gone for

1397
01:55:58.520 --> 01:55:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a while.

1398
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he didn't he go up into the mountain

1399
01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>for like forty days and nights, and that that's a

1400
01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:08.840
<v Speaker 2>heck of a long time to be on a mountain.

1401
01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It was some time.

1402
01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:12.920
<v Speaker 4>You know that it was a manipulation in time that

1403
01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.000
<v Speaker 4>it didn't agree with the natural course of it.

1404
01:56:16.199 --> 01:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would make sense because that they often use

1405
01:56:21.720 --> 01:56:27.399
<v Speaker 2>symbolic language, like when they're describing things like the actual event.

1406
01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean he might have been he might have been

1407
01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:34.079
<v Speaker 2>on the mountain for sort of a week and a

1408
01:56:34.159 --> 01:56:37.319
<v Speaker 2>half or a month and a half, but it would

1409
01:56:37.359 --> 01:56:40.800
<v Speaker 2>get described as forty days because forty days is a

1410
01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a generation period. So that the Biblical Bible often uses

1411
01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>symbolic language. But I don't think it's just symbols versus reality.

1412
01:56:57.640 --> 01:57:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some reality there and they symbolize it

1413
01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to an extent. So, but you know when they when

1414
01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:14.079
<v Speaker 2>he went up, were was it Moses or or uh

1415
01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:21.239
<v Speaker 2>his successor who when they created the golden calf while

1416
01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>while he was while he was away, I believe it.

1417
01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Was when he had gone up to receive it tame

1418
01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:29.279
<v Speaker 4>commandments when he came back and they had created a

1419
01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:30.199
<v Speaker 4>golden calf.

1420
01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Because that that must have been a long time, because

1421
01:57:34.279 --> 01:57:40.239
<v Speaker 2>if they if they kind of abandoned their faith and practices,

1422
01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that it must have been Maybe he was away for

1423
01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:50.199
<v Speaker 2>six months. But I could well believe that that there

1424
01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>would be some kind of time field dilation because you

1425
01:57:54.119 --> 01:58:00.039
<v Speaker 2>get that with that. There's a book called Oh. I

1426
01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>always have trouble remembering the name of this book and

1427
01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it's it's about was it by Randall's uh and Jenny

1428
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Jenny Run Her first name was Jenny and time it's

1429
01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:33.439
<v Speaker 2>something like time like time balls or something like that,

1430
01:58:33.800 --> 01:58:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like the these energy portals that and it was definitely

1431
01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:45.479
<v Speaker 2>an an or or energy. It seemed to me where

1432
01:58:45.600 --> 01:58:50.399
<v Speaker 2>when I read her read her book, and the these

1433
01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:56.319
<v Speaker 2>concentrations of of like orn or seemed to throw people

1434
01:58:56.359 --> 01:58:59.680
<v Speaker 2>into a different time dimension or that they go through

1435
01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:07.560
<v Speaker 2>these through these energy circles and they'd be bounced into

1436
01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a different time and they seem to have a lot

1437
01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:17.800
<v Speaker 2>of or in all characteristics I've I've listed them in

1438
01:59:17.840 --> 01:59:23.359
<v Speaker 2>one of one of my essays. And funny enough, it's

1439
01:59:23.399 --> 01:59:27.720
<v Speaker 2>really hard to get hold of this book now since

1440
01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:33.800
<v Speaker 2>i'd since I'd read it and quoted it. It's like

1441
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:38.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of sixty quid to get a rare paperback of it.

1442
01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's really I think she's a UFO researcher. But anyway,

1443
01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>there would be an association between time and strong oral fields.

1444
01:59:57.279 --> 02:00:01.079
<v Speaker 2>So I wouldn't be days and point I wouldn't be

1445
02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:04.439
<v Speaker 2>at all surprised if Moses had had traveled in time

1446
02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:09.199
<v Speaker 2>or been in a different time zone. But perhaps perhaps

1447
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:11.159
<v Speaker 2>he was away for a year when he was up there,

1448
02:00:11.239 --> 02:00:16.199
<v Speaker 2>because they'd they've gone to must have taken time to

1449
02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:24.720
<v Speaker 2>abandon their faith in him and build their cow.

1450
02:00:25.720 --> 02:00:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Right which it said that it was forty days and

1451
02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:30.039
<v Speaker 4>forty nights that Moses was gone.

1452
02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well that they often use symbolic figures, so that

1453
02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:41.199
<v Speaker 2>like forty is forty weeks is a length of a pregnancy,

1454
02:00:41.520 --> 02:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and forty years is considered a generation, So forty days

1455
02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and forty nights is considered like a period of one

1456
02:00:56.079 --> 02:01:00.920
<v Speaker 2>thing changing into another. So it's like saying Moses went

1457
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:06.760
<v Speaker 2>away for a period of a spiritual period of change.

1458
02:01:07.720 --> 02:01:12.399
<v Speaker 2>It may not actually mean forty days as in a

1459
02:01:12.520 --> 02:01:19.119
<v Speaker 2>month and ten days. I think. I think the Biblical

1460
02:01:19.199 --> 02:01:25.720
<v Speaker 2>stories are all founded in reality, but that they that

1461
02:01:25.760 --> 02:01:31.399
<v Speaker 2>the people in that era, they they had an understanding

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02:01:31.439 --> 02:01:36.520
<v Speaker 2>of symbology, whereas people have lost that understanding now so

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<v Speaker 2>that the it does wrong have evolved in understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I will say that usually that's the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>time that you quarantine an animal, yeah, first into the fold. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you don't bring into the fold first, but

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<v Speaker 4>you quarantine him for forty in like in Spanish what

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<v Speaker 4>is mark?

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<v Speaker 1>What is forty?

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<v Speaker 4>If you hold it at bay for forty days forty

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02:02:08.760 --> 02:02:11.079
<v Speaker 4>nine to see if it comes down with anything, and

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<v Speaker 4>then if it doesn't, then you bring it into the fold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot of the figures and

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02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:30.439
<v Speaker 2>dates and things you think, well, sort of, how could

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<v Speaker 2>they have had an army of a quarter of a

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<v Speaker 2>million or how I think that the it's not necessarily exactly,

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02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the figures aren't exact, necessarily exact, but that it's that

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02:02:49.800 --> 02:02:56.199
<v Speaker 2>they tell a story so that the story can still

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02:02:56.239 --> 02:02:59.800
<v Speaker 2>be true even if parts of the story is in

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<v Speaker 2>the They make a subtle reference to monotomic gold with

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<v Speaker 2>the story of the Calf, because in that they, in

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<v Speaker 2>one version of the events there in the Bible, they

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02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:21.319
<v Speaker 2>melt the calf down and Moses makes the people eat it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the only way you can eat gold is

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<v Speaker 2>to transform it into monotomic gold, which I think also

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02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:36.840
<v Speaker 2>connects back into Egypt, because white, white gold would have

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02:03:36.880 --> 02:03:43.760
<v Speaker 2>been a thing in Egypt. I believe that there is

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<v Speaker 2>multiple stories about the Calf. I think in another story

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02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it gets thrown into a river. But it's that they

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<v Speaker 2>that they hide things in the Bible like that they

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<v Speaker 2>hide that the ark is activated by the priests, that

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<v Speaker 2>they hinted it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very uh, it's very clever the way all the

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02:04:13.479 --> 02:04:15.600
<v Speaker 2>sort of it works on many different levels and the

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02:04:16.000 --> 02:04:20.560
<v Speaker 2>symbology interacts with reality and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you've got some well adventures already stories

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<v Speaker 3>to tell about about this stuff. That is crazy. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what's funny, it's interesting every time you've come on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it has to do with that stuff,

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02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:38.319
<v Speaker 3>but I always have to turn off your background thing

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02:04:38.399 --> 02:04:41.760
<v Speaker 3>because you do get a home. There's always a home there.

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02:04:41.760 --> 02:04:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, I had.

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02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:44.560
<v Speaker 3>To turn it on now. I meant to. I meant

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02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:45.960
<v Speaker 3>to tell you that way you were going on in

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02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:47.560
<v Speaker 3>the show, but I was like, i'll bring it up later.

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02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:50.039
<v Speaker 3>I did find it interesting you said that it supposedly

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02:04:50.039 --> 02:04:51.640
<v Speaker 3>gives off a horm and when you came on, I

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02:04:51.640 --> 02:04:53.640
<v Speaker 3>had to reduce the background noise because it was a

1510
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:57.920
<v Speaker 3>horrible hump. And that happens every time you come on. Actually,

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02:04:57.920 --> 02:05:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I always have to do that yeah, I wonder you

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02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:04.239
<v Speaker 3>think the mic could be picking that up.

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02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:09.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well it's only just free that.

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02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Take it off, and actually people could hear it. I

1515
02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:14.000
<v Speaker 3>might be able to take it off for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>The mica.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I'm yeah, twelve foot from the energy box.

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02:05:23.920 --> 02:05:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Here, Yeah, I can hear it now I have hold

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02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:34.239
<v Speaker 3>on one second. Yeah, now I shut it off, so

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02:05:34.319 --> 02:05:37.279
<v Speaker 3>people people, I'm sure I heard that now, the difference. Yeah,

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02:05:37.279 --> 02:05:41.199
<v Speaker 3>there's a hum dude. Oh yeah, I gotta go. I'm

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02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:46.479
<v Speaker 3>gonna show for Lisa. So yeah, uh you remember before

1523
02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:50.640
<v Speaker 3>how he mentioned the humming, how he thinks that stuffs hums.

1524
02:05:51.199 --> 02:05:52.680
<v Speaker 3>And I said to him, I said, I don't know

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02:05:52.680 --> 02:05:54.600
<v Speaker 3>if you've I don't know if I've ever told him,

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02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:57.319
<v Speaker 3>because I can just control the mic sittings here, some

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02:05:57.359 --> 02:05:59.520
<v Speaker 3>of them. Every time he comes on, I have to

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02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:02.760
<v Speaker 3>mute his the background noise because there's a horrible home

1529
02:06:04.600 --> 02:06:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and I was wondering if this somehow that's possible that

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02:06:07.479 --> 02:06:09.840
<v Speaker 3>it's picking that up. And watch listen, I'm gonna you

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02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:12.239
<v Speaker 3>listen in now it's quiet. I'm gonna take it off,

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02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:21.079
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna take it off now.

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02:06:24.119 --> 02:06:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went off.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely there's definitely a home and I was like, Yo,

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02:06:27.359 --> 02:06:29.119
<v Speaker 3>you think it's possible you might's picking that up.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like when you flip on a switch for

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02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:35.960
<v Speaker 4>you know something.

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02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, or if you're too close to like if if

1539
02:06:38.399 --> 02:06:41.720
<v Speaker 3>my exologue cable was like maybe right against like an

1540
02:06:41.720 --> 02:06:44.680
<v Speaker 3>electrical thing, it might pick up something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny, Leo, because me and Nick had a conversation

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02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:51.279
<v Speaker 4>about TV. Like back in the day when it used

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02:06:51.279 --> 02:06:57.560
<v Speaker 4>to be a TV set TV, you could hear a hum,

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02:06:57.720 --> 02:06:59.960
<v Speaker 4>like you could be in another room in the house

1546
02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:03.560
<v Speaker 4>and if somebody turned on the television and rack back,

1547
02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:07.560
<v Speaker 4>then the TV wouldn't immediately come on. You wouldn't hear

1548
02:07:07.640 --> 02:07:10.920
<v Speaker 4>any sound or anything. It just like clicked on and

1549
02:07:10.960 --> 02:07:14.800
<v Speaker 4>you could hear the hum before the sound came forth.

1550
02:07:15.880 --> 02:07:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Tubes.

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02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I remember that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you they could have it all the way down,

1553
02:07:22.600 --> 02:07:24.560
<v Speaker 4>but if you were in another room and you were

1554
02:07:24.600 --> 02:07:27.239
<v Speaker 4>sensitive to it, you could hear the hum like it

1555
02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:31.600
<v Speaker 4>was like this high pitched like white noise type. It

1556
02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:33.359
<v Speaker 4>wasn't even really a hum, it was like a white

1557
02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:39.159
<v Speaker 4>noise type difference in the sound area that you could

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02:07:39.159 --> 02:07:39.560
<v Speaker 4>pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that they were pretty high vaultage strings when they

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02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the TV sets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahs, yeah, sure, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was interesting to bring that up with

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02:07:52.039 --> 02:07:57.319
<v Speaker 3>that home there might be here a lot. Yeah yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed it as soon as like again every time

1565
02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:01.239
<v Speaker 3>he comes on did. But I just was like, maybe

1566
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:02.640
<v Speaker 3>it's a headset of something. But then when you talked

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02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:08.359
<v Speaker 3>about the I was like, oh, okay, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to move to a church where I can

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<v Speaker 2>have a stone a stone area for for the energy box,

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02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:22.600
<v Speaker 2>and I can live somewhere where I'm not getting too

1571
02:08:23.319 --> 02:08:24.000
<v Speaker 2>too fried.

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<v Speaker 3>Who who knows what you might create if you put

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things in the church and with the

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02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:39.640
<v Speaker 3>metals in there, if you've got to a nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Yeah, But the church organs are like a cloud

1576
02:08:43.319 --> 02:08:47.880
<v Speaker 2>buster in a way, and because they've got the big

1577
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:53.439
<v Speaker 2>metal pipes and there and they're doing sound healing, and

1578
02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the church spires are like a pyramid. But the apparently

1579
02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:11.119
<v Speaker 2>spires are as effective as as pyramid shapes or cones

1580
02:09:12.960 --> 02:09:19.960
<v Speaker 2>are uh an effective energy condenser, but I think some

1581
02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:26.840
<v Speaker 2>pyramid researchers have found that cones can be just as good.

1582
02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:35.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you and that stone accumulates or going charge.

1583
02:09:36.680 --> 02:09:39.439
<v Speaker 2>So but it contains it as well, so it would

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<v Speaker 2>be ideal for me. Really, a stone church in the

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02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:45.960
<v Speaker 2>middle of the countryside somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm uh yeah, I'll play workout well. Uh yeah, I

1587
02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:55.840
<v Speaker 3>think over two hours I felt bad and always leaved

1588
02:09:55.840 --> 02:09:57.920
<v Speaker 3>for you because you're you know, all the way over there.

1589
02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:00.600
<v Speaker 3>So sorry, I kept you up like a love and.

1590
02:10:01.279 --> 02:10:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, it's not too late.

1591
02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:07.800
<v Speaker 3>All right, But yeah, I think I think if you

1592
02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:09.279
<v Speaker 3>don't mind, will wrap it up here. I mean, that

1593
02:10:09.399 --> 02:10:13.600
<v Speaker 3>was some wild stuff that you talked about. Good good, good,

1594
02:10:13.760 --> 02:10:21.119
<v Speaker 3>good luck to you man. It's living with that busy.

1595
02:10:19.600 --> 02:10:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Your favorite.

1596
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:24.960
<v Speaker 3>The h he'p you come out.

1597
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a bit awkward sometimes sharing sharing, sharing your

1598
02:10:34.439 --> 02:10:36.239
<v Speaker 2>your life with an energy box.

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02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but do you want to uh do you want

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02:10:44.079 --> 02:10:45.920
<v Speaker 3>to let everybody know where they can read your stuff

1601
02:10:45.920 --> 02:10:47.560
<v Speaker 3>again and wherever they can find some of your stuff?

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02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, my my substack is all gone O R

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02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:59.520
<v Speaker 2>G O N E and consciousness dot substack dot com

1604
02:10:59.520 --> 02:11:04.079
<v Speaker 2>and my kind of week to week articles of or

1605
02:11:04.760 --> 02:11:10.000
<v Speaker 2>my my more informal articles are on there. And then

1606
02:11:11.399 --> 02:11:16.359
<v Speaker 2>the more formal stuff I've done is on the jpot journal,

1607
02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>which is an orgone journal that is run by an

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02:11:24.239 --> 02:11:30.279
<v Speaker 2>uh a psychiatrist in the States, and that's at psych

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02:11:30.479 --> 02:11:38.039
<v Speaker 2>orgone ps uh P s y C h orgone O

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<v Speaker 2>R G O n E. I think that's right. I'll

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02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:49.159
<v Speaker 2>just double check that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right.

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02:11:49.520 --> 02:11:55.239
<v Speaker 2>P S y P S y C h O R

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02:11:55.359 --> 02:11:58.680
<v Speaker 2>G O n E dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll make sure I have the links in the bottom. Uh,

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02:12:02.720 --> 02:12:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Lisa again, thank you for joining me. That was awesome.

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02:12:04.840 --> 02:12:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I loved you put questions, the things you brought up.

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02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:11.159
<v Speaker 3>That was awesome. Uh, did you want to plug anything

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02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:12.520
<v Speaker 3>or yourself?

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02:12:13.239 --> 02:12:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Site of Occult Research Institute dot org where Leon has

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02:12:18.079 --> 02:12:22.399
<v Speaker 4>some great amazing read and so do many other people.

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02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Many of the contributors that have been on the show

1622
02:12:25.920 --> 02:12:30.319
<v Speaker 4>and that you know are contributed different topics and stuff

1623
02:12:30.319 --> 02:12:35.319
<v Speaker 4>like that. They have also contributed written content and so yeah,

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02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:36.479
<v Speaker 4>it's nicely organized.

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02:12:36.520 --> 02:12:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Yes, thank you.

1626
02:12:38.720 --> 02:12:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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02:12:39.159 --> 02:12:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I tried. We tried trying our best with the time given. Uh,

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02:12:45.279 --> 02:12:47.439
<v Speaker 3>all right, so yeah, I'll leave uh Olivia links in

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02:12:47.479 --> 02:12:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the bottom. Leon, thank you very much for car on again. Man,

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02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that was always a really weird, interesting chat with you.

1631
02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean in a good way, in a good way,

1632
02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:58.359
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying it's all just like wild stuff,

1633
02:12:58.399 --> 02:13:00.840
<v Speaker 3>So uh yeah, thanks again. We'll have to get you

1634
02:13:00.920 --> 02:13:02.439
<v Speaker 3>on in a few months from now and hear some

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02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:04.920
<v Speaker 3>more new wild and stories about Oregon.

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02:13:06.119 --> 02:13:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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02:13:06.680 --> 02:13:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And that is the end of another occult rejex and

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02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:11.920
<v Speaker 3>until the next one, everybody be well later