WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:28.600 Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of Fire Up. 2 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.799 I hope everybody's fired up tonight. I know my co host, 3 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:36.719 my husband, Scott the MotorCity mad Mouth, he was fired 4 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:40.920 up on his last show just that he ended Sports Exchange. 5 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.359 Check it out. Him and Rod Peterson talk a lot 6 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:48.399 of NHL. But it's my all star lineup tonight. I 7 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:52.960 have next to me Scott the MotorCity mad Mouth, Morgan Roth. 8 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.000 Welcome back, Thanks Katie, enjoy being on this show. This 9 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.600 is a contrey, baby, I'm fighting in the well. I 10 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.679 trained this woman. I trained them all in this way 11 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.159 or two in there and got them all. I'll get nicely. 12 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:09.000 Thank you very much. But this is your show. I'm 13 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.239 just hanging out here with you. 14 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.599 I gotta let me introduce everybody now that you have everybody, 15 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:18.840 but I'll do it again and then my usual co host, 16 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.280 one of my co hosts, who's been on here for jeez, Ralph, 17 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:23.519 how long have you been on here with me? 18 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:24.519 For a while? A while? 19 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.879 Now, a few, so it's been a few. 20 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.079 It's been I think over a year, I think almost. 21 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:31.439 Yeah, exactly. 22 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:32.719 Welcome back, Ralph. 23 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.680 I'm still here though you are. 24 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:41.120 That's awesome, awesome, And then mister Pensman sports, how are 25 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.000 you tonight? 26 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.799 I'm good. I'm ready to get this show rocking and rolling. 27 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.560 That's awesome, that's awesome. Since the last time we talked, Pensman, though, 28 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.680 you have a little uh armor arm damage there. 29 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:02.000 Yeah, I had a little fall. But about six weeks 30 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:02.560 I'll be all right. 31 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:05.480 Okay, is that all only six weeks? 32 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:06.840 Yeah? 33 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:07.840 Only six weeks. 34 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.560 Only six weeks. Well, let's get to our first topic 35 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.599 of the night, and no it is not with the 36 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.000 title of the show. We're gonna talk about a lot 37 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.039 of different topics tonight. We're gonna throw it to a 38 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.919 couple of different sports. We're first gonna start in Pittsburgh 39 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.120 and we're gonna talk baseball because one of the Pittsburgh Pirates, 40 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.240 Paul pitcher Paul Skeins, feels his team can win the 41 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:44.199 World Series without spending money like the LA Dodgers. Hmmm, 42 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.120 what do you think about that? Ralph, you're in Pittsburgh, 43 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.120 tell us, how do you feel about that? 44 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.240 I don't know what's Paul Skins maybe his girlfriend or something. 45 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.919 I don't know, but he's drinking some bad kool aid 46 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.800 or something. Because the Pittsburgh Pirates have done absolutely nothing 47 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:07.680 except re sign Andrew McCutcheon. They brought in a first basement, 48 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.080 the traded for a couple of relievers, but you know 49 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.400 they need help in the starting pitching. I guess to 50 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.319 wait for the scrap heap to come up, so, you know, 51 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.159 I don't see how they can win. Derek Sheldon's not 52 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.840 even that good of a manager to begin with, and 53 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.599 we have a new hitting coach this year, so you know, 54 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.960 we'll see what happens. You know, I keep my fingers 55 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.919 crossed every year because that's about all. But thank goodness 56 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:35.479 for the progy races, the fireworks and the concerts after 57 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.439 and the Bible Heads, because if it wasn't for those things, 58 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.240 nobody would come to a Pirate gamp. 59 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:42.039 Wow. 60 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:46.520 Ouch, Pensman Sports, what do you feel about what Paul 61 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:47.680 Skeins had to say? 62 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:54.840 You have to spend money to get just you have, 63 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:01.120 like the Bets just signed buon Soto. In order to 64 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.960 get players, you have to spend money. You can't take 65 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.120 the same team and not spend money two years in 66 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:14.159 a row they had the same record. It's not I 67 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.079 don't know what Paul's thinking. I don't know if his 68 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.600 Rookie of the Year award got to his head or what. 69 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:27.319 So, Scott, the Pirates their peril was eighty four million. 70 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.639 They ranked twenty ninth. It was one hundred and fifty 71 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:35.560 six million dollars less than the Dodgers and two hundred 72 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.959 and thirty million dollars less than the New York Mets 73 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.399 for the twenty twenty four season. Right, what do you 74 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.560 think about what Paul Skime said? 75 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.839 Well, let me pick a back off of Ralph because 76 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.439 we need to teach him a little bit about journalism. Okay, 77 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.399 the Pirates are absolutely nothing. Okay, and Utti and Gene 78 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.800 not nothing. Kidding with the Ralph, I had no choice. 79 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.360 Segue number one. Okay, before we worry about a world series, 80 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.519 we're about a winning record. This is the same franchise 81 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.839 that lost twenty three years in a row and missus 82 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.639 Roberto Clemeni was playing don't make it twenty one and 83 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:19.319 don't work embarrass or Berto. So before we worry about payrolls, 84 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.560 comparing them to the Dodgers and the Mets, because we 85 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.399 all know that the Dodgers that are legal, what they're 86 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:28.120 doing legal monopoly because they're buying everything that they can 87 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:33.519 buy because there's no salary cap in baseball. The Pirates 88 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.519 have been the pharmacystem for the rest of the Major 89 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.519 League Baseball for that till the end of time. Do 90 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.600 let me wrong. It's a problem fan base, it really is. 91 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.480 I'm convinced of Pittsburgh can sell that building out all 92 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.839 day long if they go out there and put together 93 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.040 a good product out there. We're saying good, We're not 94 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.519 talking about great. I'm sure that the crowds had to 95 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.240 be pretty decent when he had Barry Bonds there and 96 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.120 they were winning under Jim Leland. Bring back to any 97 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.920 time respectably where you get eighty five, I win and 98 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.879 Pittford's will fought like a bunch of geese because it 99 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.399 is a great baseball town. What if they won five 100 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.879 World Series championships. That's not say they won five. So 101 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:17.319 the reality of the situation is, Paul to me, I'm 102 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.079 glad you're there. The question is down the road, can 103 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.199 the Pittsburgh Pirates afford you? And I would say if 104 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.720 I had to say they, my answer is absolutely not 105 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.959 or absolutely not. We will, but not realistic. The Mets 106 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.600 and the Dodgers have certainly paid a lot of money. Now, 107 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.639 Marlin's never spent a dime, but yeah, Andrew mccrutch and 108 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:44.360 several little better plays in recent history. Well, I hope 109 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.920 I'm wrong, Paul. I always say, please prove me wrong, please, 110 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:48.959 but it didn't get happen here. 111 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.480 So let me put in my two cents, and my 112 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:57.720 two cents are Pittsburgh Pirates. Shame on you. In twenty 113 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.600 twenty three, your revenue was three hundred and nine million dollars. 114 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.319 You spent one hundred and twenty million on your payroll 115 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:12.439 last year. Can you do it with lower let I mean, 116 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.800 let's face it, that's a big difference between your revenue 117 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.839 and your payroll. I'm gonna give you a small town 118 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:22.639 market as well, the Milwaukee Brewers because you all know 119 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:28.199 that that's my team. Their revenue in twenty twenty or 120 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.120 in twenty twenty three was three hundred and twenty million, yes, 121 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:37.600 that was what eleven million more. Their payroll was only 122 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:41.199 one hundred and fifty three million, which is a little 123 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:45.600 bit more I will give granted, but they made the playoffs. 124 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.600 You can do. You don't have to spend Dodger money 125 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.040 or New York Mets money, but you do have to 126 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:57.879 spend money to get some quality players and to generate 127 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.000 more revenue and more people. And you have to win 128 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.279 games because then your fans are going to want to 129 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.920 come back and spend more money. If they spend more money, 130 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.519 you make more money. The next year, you can spend 131 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.600 more money and you keep it going. Let's face it, 132 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.199 the Mets spent a crazy amount of money and the 133 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:21.439 Dodgers are up there. But the but are they the 134 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.439 two teams that always end up in the end in 135 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.600 the end. Is it always the highest payroll that end 136 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:28.040 up winning the World Series? 137 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.920 No, no, not at all. Tampa Bay was in the 138 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.960 World Series and they had a low payroll. 139 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:38.000 Oh thanks, reality, Well, memory will tell you that the 140 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.600 Kansas City Royal Word World Series Championship against. 141 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:42.679 The mat Yes. 142 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.559 Yes, so you know, low budget teams can win. 143 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.679 But they have to have a good scouting. They have 144 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.759 to have a good manager. 145 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:54.120 They have to have a good front office that's well 146 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.039 and an owner that's at least willing to spend a 147 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.399 little bit of money and bringing a couple of decent 148 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.799 star You don't have to have the farm and a 149 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:02.799 good farm system. 150 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:04.480 You got to have a good farm system. 151 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:07.519 Pirates have one but it's just a concept of can 152 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:10.720 they keep that farm system going and and and they 153 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.159 have to get some some uh at least one or 154 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.600 two quality guys to come in and at least try to, 155 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:17.879 you know, try to do something. 156 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:19.159 I'm satisfied. 157 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.480 I would be satisfied if they won five hundred, because, 158 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.360 like Scott's, at least that's something that's winning, you know 159 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:24.679 what I. 160 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:32.759 Mean, you know, major league to pirates, Yes, exactly, I 161 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:33.320 agree with you. 162 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:38.200 Sorry, I know, but you know, I'm a hard for journalist. 163 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:39.480 It's hard to argue with the max. 164 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:42.519 I get it. I get it. 165 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:43.200 Well. 166 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.879 One of the things that happened this week in baseball, 167 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:50.919 besides Paul saying that is we had Hall of Fame 168 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:56.720 was announced Scott who made the Hall of Fame this time? 169 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:03.679 Billy Wagner. Suzukis that's the one vote. I hear that 170 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:05.519 Suzuki is trying to find out who's the one person 171 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.039 that snubbed them. They got it right on the ballot 172 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.720 this time. They did the three that belonged in there, 173 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.840 the other two that fell short and will make it 174 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.799 next year. Because when I looked at the newcomers coming 175 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:18.519 out of the ballot, I didn't say, but it struck 176 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.000 me familiar fight where it's gonna be Billy Wagner. Glad 177 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.799 he made it in the tenth year of her ability. 178 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.879 She Savantis Sabati, excuse me all tongue. Time there Beatarezuk 179 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.600 only or one or guns on the ballot, it'll be 180 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.120 a great class. I think I have what Dick Allen 181 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.360 and Dave Partner another Pittsford guys that get in there, 182 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.960 so they have a nine class going in this year. 183 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:42.480 I've been to cooper Son a couple of times. Candy 184 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.039 Mader first trip there, great place to go if you'd 185 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.840 ever been there. Fell out their goats in unelievable place. 186 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.000 Bag Fall got it right this time. 187 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.879 So I'm just gonna give you a little bit of background. 188 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.679 There are some people that are saying that the reason 189 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:05.879 why one voter votes against is because Babe Ruth and 190 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.799 Hank Aaron didn't get in one hundred percent unanimous, and 191 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.960 so they don't want them to overtake them. So with 192 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.120 that being said, is that the way it went down. 193 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.240 I don't know, but Chiro is the first Japanese player 194 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.360 elected to Cooperstown. He had over nineteen seasons between the 195 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:34.720 Seattle Mariners, New York Yankees, and Marlins. Uh Sabbathia was 196 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:39.279 baseball's premier work course over nineteen seasons with Cleveland, the 197 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.799 Milwaukee Brewers, and the Yankees. He retired with a two 198 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:46.879 hundred and fifty one wins, one hundred and sixty one 199 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.360 losses record, three point seventy four ERA and three thousand, 200 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:58.039 ninety three strikeouts. And then, the last, but not least, 201 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:02.159 Wagner gained, like you said, Scott, entry into the Hall 202 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:09.519 in its tenth and final year of eligibility. Let's see, 203 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.879 he was the fifty. 204 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.759 Three mm hmm, I mean John David Kohne. 205 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:19.279 I see her, Wow, fifty three year old who pitched 206 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:23.200 for five teams over sixteen big league seasons. He was 207 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:28.639 very emotional when he got his call. So, Pensman, your thoughts. 208 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:35.840 Did Billy Wagner get in with the Phillies's got bill? 209 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.799 Did Billy Wagner get in with the with the Phillies 210 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:44.600 as astros? Okay? Because he was the closer for that. 211 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:50.440 I think he had like four hundred, some say. 212 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:51.440 But I used to My dad used to take me 213 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.879 to Phillies games a lot, and I saw Billy Wagner 214 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.039 I got to see CC a lot. I didn't get 215 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.320 to see each roll, but I think they did all right. 216 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.840 I'm happy with with those guys. They deserve it. Could 217 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:10.960 more people make it in, yeah, but the voters will vote, 218 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.919 so I think baseball got it right this time. 219 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.159 Tell me answer you guys the question. You know who 220 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:23.120 we're what team that Neutro got a three timeand hit one? 221 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.840 Was it Seattle? 222 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.240 Okay, that's your guess? What about you? Ralph? 223 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:29.879 Well, what's the question again? I'm sorry? 224 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.000 Go ahead, newtro got a three talents hit club? 225 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.159 Oh gosh, I couldn't even tell you that for real. 226 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:39.799 I could take a guess. 227 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:47.200 I'd say the Yankees, Miami, Miami, Marlins, Marlin. 228 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.200 Okay, fire throw it in there. 229 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:51.440 Oh that's fun. 230 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:55.360 I thought, I gotta get knowledge. 231 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.720 You know what, Ralph, nobody would have not too many 232 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:01.039 people would have gotten this one. He'll kill do that. 233 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.759 Don't look at that as a knock. Let's just call 234 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.759 that as an f yi. Okay, that's all. 235 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.679 And one of the things I would say Pensman is 236 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:17.639 I agree that, but I think putting only three in 237 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.360 to the Hall of Fame in a year really gives 238 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.279 makes it stand out and makes it that much more 239 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.519 special because there was how many people they could have 240 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.919 actually you know that retired and could have were eligible. 241 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:31.600 I think. 242 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.240 I personally don't remember the last time they put four 243 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:40.080 in in one year off the bet maybe record, I 244 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.639 don't remember, probably even a while, but three a decent amount, 245 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.799 let alone these particular three players, they were all well deserved. 246 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.879 And there's another little piece of information. Billy Wagner barely 247 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.720 his first year, barely had over five percent, so he 248 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.879 kept growing and grow on until he hit that threshold. 249 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.639 Were by the last couple of years, even the sixty 250 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:04.879 to seventy percent range. It was a matter of time 251 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:06.720 where he's gonna get in and loan the oldie dead. 252 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.440 So he got so each year O got in with 253 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.919 ninety nine point seven percent. Ccbathia got in with eighty 254 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.039 six point eight, Billy Wagner got in with eighty two 255 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:21.480 point five. The next one Carlos Beltron and is with 256 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.120 his third year of trying to get in, his percentage 257 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.799 was at seventy point three. And I will say that 258 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:36.720 these three got in from the writers. There are two others, 259 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:40.320 Dick Allen and Dave Parker, who were elected in December 260 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:46.039 on the Er Committee ballot, and then longtime Cleveland Guardians 261 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.759 broadcaster Tom Hamilton will also be honored as induction weekend 262 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.279 as the winner of this year's Ford C. Frick Award 263 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:59.720 for Broadcasting Excellence. The class of twenty twenty five will 264 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:04.159 be four normally inducted July twenty seventh in Cooperstown. And 265 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:08.480 like Scott said, if you have never been it is 266 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.360 it is a hall that you need to go to 267 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.720 if you are any if you are any type of 268 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.320 baseball fan, I don't care what team you're a fan of. 269 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.840 I don't care how many players are in the Hall 270 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:25.840 from your team. It's really cool to see the Hall 271 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.480 of Fame and Cooperstown, Cooperstown, the whole town. So it's 272 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.720 not just the actual Hall of Fame. I mean you go, 273 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.159 you go down the streets of Cooperstown and the light 274 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.879 posts have baseballs on them and all the different memorabilia places. 275 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.320 You can go to Doubles Day Field, which is a 276 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.360 little field next not too far down the road, and 277 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.320 it's just a very pretty area in upstate New York 278 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.360 that's kind of out in the middle of nowhere, and 279 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.919 it's got a beautiful lake and just a beautiful area. 280 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.799 I would highly recommend anybody to take a trip up there. 281 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.559 Well amazingly enough, I didn't take you until Monday, but 282 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.799 you drove by it, and we drove around the whole area, 283 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.759 and I had a lot of apple cider. Apple siteer 284 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.000 was good, so we couldn't have enough of that stuff anyway, 285 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.799 And the lake was unbelievable, the surrendering one were driving. 286 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.400 And then we got to the museum actually on I 287 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.640 think Monday, and then of course my colleague Mark Meriday 288 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:25.759 was there and we ended up meeting in person. And 289 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.359 Mark Merriday was regular here on the Softworks of You 290 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.160 and Broadcasting Network and we do baseball. He's going to 291 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.319 be joining me in hockey as well, so you know, 292 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.039 this kid was out there playing ball and we had 293 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.440 just so happened we were there at the same time 294 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.720 we met up. We did the show remotely. So yeah, 295 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.440 super consent place. I've been there, thankfully, I think now 296 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:45.039 three times. Only sure Candy got there. I told her 297 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:46.599 once to go to the field of tree we did 298 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.759 in Iowa. I said, I'm taking the Coopers down and 299 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:50.680 lo and behold we were able to do it. And 300 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.160 then on top of that trip, we ended up going 301 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.039 to New York City, and then that took her by 302 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.759 where the old Yankee Citium wasn't a new one, and 303 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.000 that really gave her a real case of New York 304 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:06.279 and one little town outside of It's a cute little town, 305 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.640 and I remember Donating, who used to play out of 306 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:09.960 a little bit of. 307 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.160 Gives me chills. I'll tell you that I am going. 308 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:19.000 To take you guys to a sport that we don't 309 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:23.279 talk about very much on this on fire up. I'm 310 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.839 going to take you to men's college basketball because I'm 311 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:27.799 gonna throw you a curveball. 312 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:30.920 Looka Stephen F. 313 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:36.599 Austin State University announced today that men's it was yesterday 314 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.480 that men's basketball head coach Kyle Keller has been relieved 315 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.480 of his duties, effective immediately. The decision to make a 316 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:50.440 change in leadership comes after disappointing one in seven start 317 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:55.359 to Southern Conference play and an eight and eleven overall 318 00:18:55.400 --> 00:19:01.119 record for the season. This program's last conference champion came 319 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:05.920 in twenty twenty two. The last NC two A tournament 320 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:11.559 appearance was in twenty eighteen. What record is the right 321 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.519 time during the middle of a season in college to 322 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:16.759 let a head coach. 323 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:22.039 Go, that's wrong. I mean you should wait till the 324 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.400 end of the season at least give him that that 325 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:25.720 benefit of the doubt. 326 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.440 See where he takes the team. 327 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.039 I mean, you know there's always two there's two halfs 328 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.720 to every season. And what happens is is if you 329 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:35.920 fire the coach in the middle of the season and 330 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:39.440 then you know, the momentum of your team, even whatever 331 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:41.000 is there is gone. 332 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:42.319 They're like, well, forget this. 333 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.759 I'm not playing for this, you know, because I was 334 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.240 here to play for this coach. And then now you 335 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.519 got everybody jump into the transfer portal and you're not 336 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.720 going to have anybody. That's exactly what happens when you 337 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:54.960 do that in the middle of the season. 338 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.279 Pensman, your thoughts. 339 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.519 I thought you were to go to a different route. 340 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:06.519 But to answer your question, that is wrong. There is 341 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:11.240 two half basketball there. Like like Ralph said, there's people 342 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.119 that the recruiter goes to your house, the coach goes 343 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:15.720 to your house be like, hey, you want to play 344 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.960 for my team. Here's the reason why, Here's why I 345 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.400 give you. Here's how much money you'll get. 346 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:22.839 Make this. 347 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.880 You'll see this, You'll see that. Here's our rivalry team. 348 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:31.119 And then once he's gone, the new coach comes in 349 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.079 and everybody be like, you know what's going on here? 350 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.119 It's like it's totally stumped the players, and I don't 351 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:38.720 agree with it. 352 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.079 Scott, your thoughts on. 353 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.400 This particular topic. When was the momentum there at the 354 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.920 beginning of the year which provided the impetence for them 355 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:49.559 to let him go? That's why they tried to make 356 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.160 a change the same things up. Now, keep in mind 357 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.240 this is the exception of the rule. You're talking about 358 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:58.200 a level like this or the cover is buried again 359 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.599 with I mean, the guy a little bit of a break. 360 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.160 I mean, it's not like you're playing Division one, Power 361 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.799 four or five conference, but you know, administrations at the 362 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.440 what was the guy getting paid thirty five or forty 363 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.519 thousand dollars a year to coach this group? I have 364 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.880 no idea what they can afford to do. I don't 365 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:16.599 know how big their stadium. 366 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.480 Is, Yeah, exactly. 367 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:20.480 I mean there's a lot of variables and unknowns, and 368 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.240 we don't know about the particular university. But whatever reason 369 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:25.720 they made, I don't know. They think they're going to 370 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.960 get a spark plug. But the question is is what's 371 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:31.200 the next it's going to say, you let this guy 372 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:32.839 had a little success, he go to let me go. 373 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:38.200 Why would I want to take the job? So an 374 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.559 adtisement or or an endorsement. 375 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.519 For me coach Keller had entered. That was his eighth 376 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.400 season in charge of the Lumberjack basketball program. He was 377 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:54.559 coming off a nineteen and eleven campaign. He continued to 378 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:57.039 raise the bar and over the past four seasons to 379 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.079 have compiled an overall record of eight thirty one, which 380 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.960 ranks thirteenth best in all of NC to a Division 381 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:11.200 IE level. He is the fastest coach in SFA. He 382 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.519 was the fastest coach in SFA history to record one 383 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:17.599 hundred wins and now has an all time record of 384 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:20.640 one hundred and forty five and sixty nine plus a 385 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:24.920 conference mark of eighty nine and thirty six. And yet 386 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.000 they left him go. 387 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.000 I don't think I'll have a hard time getting employment 388 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:31.279 those for. 389 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:33.720 No, not at all, Not at all. 390 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.039 And sometimes you get these alums that they don't they 391 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.240 just for some reason they have his big heart onto 392 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.960 the fact that they don't like this guy because I 393 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.359 don't you know, or maybe the athletic director looked at 394 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.839 it at a and it just said, well, maybe we 395 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:51.200 need something better. But you know what, sometimes you know, 396 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:54.319 firing this coach like this and trying to look for 397 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:57.519 something better there now, unless you got money, forget it. 398 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:04.799 One of Scott's quotes that I will quote him on, 399 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.440 if you're going to fire somebody, especially in the middle 400 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.480 of a season, do you have somebody better in mind 401 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.039