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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of October

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth, we're discussing Season four, episode ten, aka the

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<v Speaker 2>last one of only murders in the building. This one

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<v Speaker 2>was called My best Friend's Wedding, and we feared for

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<v Speaker 2>Loretta's safety, but they dispense.

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<v Speaker 1>With that right up top, they too have been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the girls. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not going to do anything to Meryl Streep

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<v Speaker 2>except ship her to Newzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't worry. We've got it. It's all taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna kill We're gonna kill somebody else at dire Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they also had the trio finally nod to

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<v Speaker 2>the ridiculousness of every time we saw a murder, another

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<v Speaker 2>one happens. Yes, they did do that, but that did

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<v Speaker 2>not prevent, unfortunately, the victim from being the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time in this season. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>winky about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, little sarcasm from this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh all this poke, poke, poke, get it. Look at

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<v Speaker 3>this off movies, DV algorithms. Y. My side is sore,

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<v Speaker 3>stop it. But you know what, you know, I've had

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<v Speaker 3>problems with this season and I've talked about it every week,

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<v Speaker 3>and this finale was really kind of a mess. But

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<v Speaker 3>I forgive absolutely everything for that Jan reveal.

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<v Speaker 1>If the whole season was just a long joke leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to that, all was forgiven, masterfully done, just out

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<v Speaker 1>of the freaking etherch. They just planted that little seat

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning that Jan was somewhere in the tunnels,

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<v Speaker 1>and then paid no attention for to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, everybody, just look another way.

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<v Speaker 1>Were adorned that that was just the cherry on the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the Sunday of how ridiculously nothing. The season

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<v Speaker 1>has been very very good, show that you had that

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<v Speaker 1>in your pocket this entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we did say at the time when jan

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<v Speaker 2>appeared in Charles's coat closet, having harcourd her way out

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<v Speaker 2>of prison and then found her way into the tunnels

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<v Speaker 2>of the building, we said, where yea is She's still

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the tunnels, And in fact she was

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<v Speaker 2>eating the deepooty in the tunnels.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, that was just glorious. That so much. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know the whole I liked that we got

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Westiest one more time rallying to be

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction, but only some of them of them, But.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get the entire Sauce family, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we could make a very long list of all the

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<v Speaker 2>plot holes and dangling things, but like you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't wrap up basically any of that, you know, dudeing

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<v Speaker 2>off Westy stuff, Like who was in the picture that

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<v Speaker 2>got scratched out? Was that actually Helga? Like why Helga? Period?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what well? That will plot line was worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>For the line. We're just a bunch of cute weirdows

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<v Speaker 1>who torched a body again. All right, I'll accept that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll accept that simmation for all that nonsense. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>they did come kind that's excellent, right, And they.

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<v Speaker 2>Did come up with when they were outside the door

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<v Speaker 2>trying to distract Marshall p Pope from killing Mabel, they

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<v Speaker 2>came up with all kinds of you know, we're making

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<v Speaker 2>chicken and we don't know what we're doing, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were just a desperate number of yes, frand stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love for that to have been improvised, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. It's just it was just it was

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<v Speaker 1>like this whole episode was them just admitting, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>old is a mess, wasn't it. Okay, We're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw a bunch of stuff and get the screen and

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<v Speaker 1>then damn taking it back season one?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And at least Uma got one more line,

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<v Speaker 2>no too. She got a couple in this in this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>got the wedding. She went to the wedding, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of surprised she didn't just like grouchily stare at

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<v Speaker 2>it from.

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<v Speaker 1>Her apartment with just having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>After she after she thought she saw a roach.

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<v Speaker 1>And scream oh goodness, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and the bulldog is still alive. We haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen that dog for the entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the pig there too. Was he willing

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<v Speaker 1>to creatures have been there?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, but Helga maybe took the pig.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Helga took the pig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, off to the land.

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<v Speaker 1>A sentence you don't feel like you're gonna say very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Helga took the pig. Took the pig. Oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this just was this just was completely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole like the backstory with Saz having decided,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to get out of stunt stuff at her

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<v Speaker 1>age and become a writer and and then be betrayed

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<v Speaker 1>by this person. And there was some really dramatic good

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<v Speaker 1>acting by Jane Lynch there. It was really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking all that stuff and uh not a not a

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<v Speaker 1>a flavor we usually see from that character, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that was aw aw But to shoot her, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing could be as gloriously out of left

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<v Speaker 1>field as jan But back then it wound up being

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<v Speaker 1>the writer. Really, this is the way we went with this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know writers are dangerous. You gotta watch us every minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially writers, somebody, especially writers who also have stuntman skills.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and you know have been raised to be killers.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't get.

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<v Speaker 2>All of us everywhere. Ah, It's just I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>almost seemed a little parental of Loretta to to decide

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<v Speaker 2>that Oliver shouldn't go to New Zealand with her because

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't leave his friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was a parenting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. And hey, look, remember Loretta has a son.

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<v Speaker 2>There you are?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was wondering and he was gonna show up.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen him all season either.

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<v Speaker 1>Always invite your long lost son to your nuptials and

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<v Speaker 1>even longer I think since we've seen Oliver son, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was first. I was expecting that maybe Loretta's son

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<v Speaker 1>would be there somewhere. I was very happy to see

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden there too. It was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they remembered, right, They found that actor somewhere said come

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<v Speaker 1>on back.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you busy?

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<v Speaker 1>You think? Can you get called up to say could

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<v Speaker 1>you come back? We just need you for one episode.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna think, oh crap, am I the victim?

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<v Speaker 2>The guys shoot me? But if you were the victim,

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<v Speaker 2>you would know that you'd behbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that actor plan well, spoiler alert if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see the episode and don't want to know who the

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<v Speaker 1>next season's victim is. Fast forward a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>that actor who plays Lester, I mean rip, But you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a lot of work next season, buddy, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting a lot more work than you had this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So don't no more just standing at the door

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<v Speaker 1>and giving a quip or two. You're actually gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get flashbacks to you, buddy. We're gonna find out

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<v Speaker 1>about your life. Maybe unless you accidentally got shot and

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<v Speaker 1>they thought you were somebody else, in which case maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, it's obviously gonna be connected to this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>mobster dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleaning Carleoni I have not seen in a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, I know this actress, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who she is. I had to wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>closing credit. It's like, oh, yeah, golly, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Your son used to watch her show though.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Adam Secretary, Yes, he watched all of Madam's Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times. I think, oh, well, then he moved on

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<v Speaker 2>to two U n C. I s and Leroy Jethrow Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but so I guess she's got a job for

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<v Speaker 1>next season. Good for her. Yeah, yeah, I'll mind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Find find if actors we sort of recognize and are

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<v Speaker 1>happy to see again and give him a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, excellent, not playing herself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's true. Yeah, that would I wonder at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this, Uh, Eugene Levy and Eva Lunkuria and

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<v Speaker 1>Zach what are we galif? And achis what did they

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<v Speaker 1>call aniphal axis? Was one of the better ones. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they thought, well, that was the thing

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<v Speaker 1>we did. I thought it would be a little more important,

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<v Speaker 1>but it kind of lost track of us somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at least we loved.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be awkward to kill a killer like a

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<v Speaker 1>real life person, I was thinking, because they were saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the only people who knew about this stuntman were

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<v Speaker 1>Saz and the and Glenn and the director, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta kill Ron Howard. Is Ron Howard going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the next victim? That would be something different? But no,

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<v Speaker 1>is he gonna come to the wedding because he just

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<v Speaker 1>had a dinner with Oliver you know, yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 1>have just stopped by to pay his regards, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they did, you know, put a little button

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<v Speaker 2>on it by having the trio of actors say like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if if they're worn't for us, you would have figured

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't have figured it out. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>we did, but we did something.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what you did either. Friends, yea, bye, Plese,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go back now. You can go back one, only

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<v Speaker 1>one of you at a time, though, and really really

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<v Speaker 1>Eugene Lovy, the rest of you.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of you know. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was that was a thing they tried, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was as funny as it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they didn't need Evil Longoria's nineteen and one

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<v Speaker 2>pink tool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's true. That's true too. I'm surprised it was

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<v Speaker 1>marshal for those afterwards. You never know when you might

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<v Speaker 1>need to shoot nails into somebody, that's right, or give

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<v Speaker 1>them a good massage, or record what they're saying. That's right. Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately we did not see Davine and Joy Randolph in

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<v Speaker 2>the finale. That was that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big big time Oscar winner, now, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why wasn't she there at the end wrapping everything up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she wasn't. Even she wasn't there like arresting jan

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<v Speaker 2>was she?

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<v Speaker 1>No, she was not. She could have been invited to

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding. They would have invited her to the wedding, right, buddies,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, another season.

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<v Speaker 2>One more and that's it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's is it? That is that it did have?

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<v Speaker 1>They said they're only doing it for certain number of years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's about time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like go ahead into it forever. Well, you know, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>Martin shortened, Steve Martner getting up there. I wish them

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<v Speaker 1>Selena is a billionaire. She has enormous like real estate

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<v Speaker 2>She has a beauty company too. Yeah yeah, and think

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<v Speaker 2>of the residuals from Wizards of Waverley Place.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't need this bleep.

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<v Speaker 2>She's can you even watch that show anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>famous and just too I felt bad. I felt bad

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<v Speaker 1>famous people, too many celebrities. And then I read Alan

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to just periodically have Jan

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<v Speaker 1>serial killers, serial killing serial killers. You never know when

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<v Speaker 1>That was what else Chef's kiss? I adored that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just so ef and ridiculous. It's like, yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>What else parenting can we say about this?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what else parenting can we say about this? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see watch out what you tell your kids. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have like an interest in something that you

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<v Speaker 1>are personally not interested in. Uh, don't don't force them

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<v Speaker 1>that's special sort of thing you want them to be

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<v Speaker 1>as a killer. But still let the boy go right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes if you if you squash their natural interests,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, parents, we all have our our dreams

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<v Speaker 1>do something non violent, that's probably a good go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, go try to be a writer in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>It will make you feel like you want to kill

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'll be here with this rifle for you when

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, being a writer, good luck with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you're ready to, when you're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to me. Yeah, it's writing is not a

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, a good lesson to kids to not

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<v Speaker 1>drill that in. It's really not cool to steal somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's work. And it will always come I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>will always come to a bad end when you do that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Don't do that. Don't plagiarize. Don't cut

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<v Speaker 1>paste them into your work and assume that nobody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to notice. I edit notice by novice authors, and I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to tell is if the punctuation style changes,

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<v Speaker 1>and paste in it to Google and oh look here

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. Yeah, so it's not cool people, Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>a writer will just put their heart and soul into something.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take that. Look what happened to sas that was.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be that person who's stealing her work.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And parents have a harder and harder time figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>that their kids doing that. But still make it clear,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your own crappy work is better than stealing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else's because I can always teach you how to kill,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're good. Don't do that either, By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that either. Don't hear this did not turn

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<v Speaker 1>out well? I bet his dad is gonna wish he

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<v Speaker 1>had never taught that kid to joot a gun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or to crawl like outside windows and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's taught him that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. See. Unfortunately, don't take a protege is

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<v Speaker 1>another good lesson. Oh well, and and don't expect too

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<v Speaker 1>much from TV shows. Just lay back and be used.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little lesson from Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>They can stick the landing, which this did just by

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<v Speaker 1>being throwing everything out the window and being completely ridiculous. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can respect that. Just stop poking me in the ribs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, next week we're going to start something new. We

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get to season two of Shrinking. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's on Apple TV Plus and we very much enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>season one, so we are excited to be back for more.

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<v Speaker 2>We are a few weeks behind when it's dropping, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are just going to go one at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so choose to watch it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So next next whe day we'll discuss the first episode.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first episode of season two and it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Jimmy Ing. Yep, So we will see you back

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<v Speaker 2>here tomorrow though for our regular weekly roundabout round up.

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