Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of October
Speaker 2: twenty eighth, we're discussing Season four, episode ten, aka the
Speaker 2: last one of only murders in the building. This one
Speaker 2: was called My best Friend's Wedding, and we feared for
Speaker 2: Loretta's safety, but they dispense.
Speaker 1: With that right up top, they too have been listening
Speaker 1: to the girls. No, no, no.
Speaker 2: We are not going to do anything to Meryl Streep
Speaker 2: except ship her to Newzy.
Speaker 1: Please don't worry. We've got it. It's all taken care of.
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill We're gonna kill somebody else at dire Lisa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also had the trio finally nod to
Speaker 2: the ridiculousness of every time we saw a murder, another
Speaker 2: one happens. Yes, they did do that, but that did
Speaker 2: not prevent, unfortunately, the victim from being the victim.
Speaker 1: For the first time in this season. They were all
Speaker 1: winky about stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, little sarcasm from this season.
Speaker 3: Oh all this poke, poke, poke, get it. Look at
Speaker 3: this off movies, DV algorithms. Y. My side is sore,
Speaker 3: stop it. But you know what, you know, I've had
Speaker 3: problems with this season and I've talked about it every week,
Speaker 3: and this finale was really kind of a mess. But
Speaker 3: I forgive absolutely everything for that Jan reveal.
Speaker 1: If the whole season was just a long joke leading
Speaker 1: up to that, all was forgiven, masterfully done, just out
Speaker 1: of the freaking etherch. They just planted that little seat
Speaker 1: at the beginning that Jan was somewhere in the tunnels,
Speaker 1: and then paid no attention for to her.
Speaker 2: Yep, everybody, just look another way.
Speaker 1: Were adorned that that was just the cherry on the
Speaker 1: top of the Sunday of how ridiculously nothing. The season
Speaker 1: has been very very good, show that you had that
Speaker 1: in your pocket this entire time.
Speaker 2: I mean, we did say at the time when jan
Speaker 2: appeared in Charles's coat closet, having harcourd her way out
Speaker 2: of prison and then found her way into the tunnels
Speaker 2: of the building, we said, where yea is She's still
Speaker 2: in the in the tunnels, And in fact she was
Speaker 2: eating the deepooty in the tunnels.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that was just glorious. That so much. Yes,
Speaker 1: but you know the whole I liked that we got
Speaker 1: to see the Westiest one more time rallying to be
Speaker 1: a distraction, but only some of them of them, But.
Speaker 2: We didn't get the entire Sauce family, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: we could make a very long list of all the
Speaker 2: plot holes and dangling things, but like you know, they
Speaker 2: didn't wrap up basically any of that, you know, dudeing
Speaker 2: off Westy stuff, Like who was in the picture that
Speaker 2: got scratched out? Was that actually Helga? Like why Helga? Period?
Speaker 1: Like what well? That will plot line was worth it?
Speaker 1: For the line. We're just a bunch of cute weirdows
Speaker 1: who torched a body again. All right, I'll accept that.
Speaker 1: I'll accept that simmation for all that nonsense. Right, And
Speaker 1: they did come kind that's excellent, right, And they.
Speaker 2: Did come up with when they were outside the door
Speaker 2: trying to distract Marshall p Pope from killing Mabel, they
Speaker 2: came up with all kinds of you know, we're making
Speaker 2: chicken and we don't know what we're doing, and you know,
Speaker 2: they were just a desperate number of yes, frand stuff.
Speaker 1: I would love for that to have been improvised, but
Speaker 1: I don't care. It's just it was just it was
Speaker 1: like this whole episode was them just admitting, yeah, this
Speaker 1: old is a mess, wasn't it. Okay, We're just gonna
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of stuff and get the screen and
Speaker 1: then damn taking it back season one?
Speaker 2: Thank you, And at least Uma got one more line,
Speaker 2: no too. She got a couple in this in this episode,
Speaker 2: got the wedding. She went to the wedding, which I'm
Speaker 2: kind of surprised she didn't just like grouchily stare at
Speaker 2: it from.
Speaker 1: Her apartment with just having a good time.
Speaker 2: After she after she thought she saw a roach.
Speaker 1: And scream oh goodness, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and the bulldog is still alive. We haven't
Speaker 2: seen that dog for the entire season.
Speaker 1: But it was the pig there too. Was he willing
Speaker 1: to creatures have been there?
Speaker 2: I don't think, but Helga maybe took the pig.
Speaker 1: Maybe Helga took the pig.
Speaker 2: Yeah, off to the land.
Speaker 1: A sentence you don't feel like you're gonna say very often.
Speaker 1: Maybe Helga took the pig. Took the pig. Oh goodness,
Speaker 1: oh man, this just was this just was completely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But the whole like the backstory with Saz having decided,
Speaker 1: you know, to get out of stunt stuff at her
Speaker 1: age and become a writer and and then be betrayed
Speaker 1: by this person. And there was some really dramatic good
Speaker 1: acting by Jane Lynch there. It was really kind of
Speaker 1: heartbreaking all that stuff and uh not a not a
Speaker 1: a flavor we usually see from that character, right, and
Speaker 1: so that was aw aw But to shoot her, I
Speaker 1: you know, nothing could be as gloriously out of left
Speaker 1: field as jan But back then it wound up being
Speaker 1: the writer. Really, this is the way we went with this. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know writers are dangerous. You gotta watch us every minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially writers, somebody, especially writers who also have stuntman skills.
Speaker 1: That's right, and you know have been raised to be killers.
Speaker 2: So yes, daddy issues.
Speaker 1: We can't get.
Speaker 2: All of us everywhere. Ah, It's just I thought it
Speaker 2: almost seemed a little parental of Loretta to to decide
Speaker 2: that Oliver shouldn't go to New Zealand with her because
Speaker 2: he couldn't leave his friends.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a parenting thing.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. And hey, look, remember Loretta has a son.
Speaker 2: There you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering and he was gonna show up.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him all season either.
Speaker 1: Always invite your long lost son to your nuptials and
Speaker 1: even longer I think since we've seen Oliver son, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was first. I was expecting that maybe Loretta's son
Speaker 1: would be there somewhere. I was very happy to see
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there too. It was like, hey,
Speaker 1: they remembered, right, They found that actor somewhere said come
Speaker 1: on back.
Speaker 2: Are you busy?
Speaker 1: You think? Can you get called up to say could
Speaker 1: you come back? We just need you for one episode.
Speaker 1: They're gonna think, oh crap, am I the victim?
Speaker 2: The guys shoot me? But if you were the victim,
Speaker 2: you would know that you'd behbacks.
Speaker 1: Yes, that actor plan well, spoiler alert if you didn't
Speaker 1: see the episode and don't want to know who the
Speaker 1: next season's victim is. Fast forward a little bit. But
Speaker 1: that actor who plays Lester, I mean rip, But you're
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of work next season, buddy, You're.
Speaker 2: Getting a lot more work than you had this season.
Speaker 1: Yes, So don't no more just standing at the door
Speaker 1: and giving a quip or two. You're actually gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna get flashbacks to you, buddy. We're gonna find out
Speaker 1: about your life. Maybe unless you accidentally got shot and
Speaker 1: they thought you were somebody else, in which case maybe
Speaker 1: not so much.
Speaker 2: But well, it's obviously gonna be connected to this. Yes,
Speaker 2: mobster dry.
Speaker 1: Cleaning Carleoni I have not seen in a long time,
Speaker 1: because it's like, I know this actress, but I don't
Speaker 1: know who she is. I had to wait till the
Speaker 1: closing credit. It's like, oh, yeah, golly, it's been a
Speaker 1: while to you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Your son used to watch her show though.
Speaker 2: Right, Adam Secretary, Yes, he watched all of Madam's Secretary
Speaker 2: multiple times. I think, oh, well, then he moved on
Speaker 2: to two U n C. I s and Leroy Jethrow Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Yes, but so I guess she's got a job for
Speaker 1: next season. Good for her. Yeah, yeah, I'll mind that.
Speaker 1: Find find if actors we sort of recognize and are
Speaker 1: happy to see again and give him a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, not playing herself.
Speaker 1: No, that's true. Yeah, that would I wonder at the
Speaker 1: end of this, Uh, Eugene Levy and Eva Lunkuria and
Speaker 1: Zach what are we galif? And achis what did they
Speaker 1: call aniphal axis? Was one of the better ones. But
Speaker 1: I wonder if they thought, well, that was the thing
Speaker 1: we did. I thought it would be a little more important,
Speaker 1: but it kind of lost track of us somewhere along
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least we loved.
Speaker 1: That would be awkward to kill a killer like a
Speaker 1: real life person, I was thinking, because they were saying
Speaker 1: that the only people who knew about this stuntman were
Speaker 1: Saz and the and Glenn and the director, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: they gotta kill Ron Howard. Is Ron Howard going to
Speaker 1: be the next victim? That would be something different? But no,
Speaker 1: is he gonna come to the wedding because he just
Speaker 1: had a dinner with Oliver you know, yeah, I could
Speaker 1: have just stopped by to pay his regards, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they did, you know, put a little button
Speaker 2: on it by having the trio of actors say like, well,
Speaker 2: if if they're worn't for us, you would have figured
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have figured it out. I don't know what
Speaker 2: we did, but we did something.
Speaker 1: We don't know what you did either. Friends, yea, bye, Plese,
Speaker 1: don't go back now. You can go back one, only
Speaker 1: one of you at a time, though, and really really
Speaker 1: Eugene Lovy, the rest of you.
Speaker 2: The rest of you know. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a thing they tried, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was as funny as it seemed
Speaker 1: like it was going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they didn't need Evil Longoria's nineteen and one
Speaker 2: pink tool.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. That's true too. I'm surprised it was
Speaker 1: marshal for those afterwards. You never know when you might
Speaker 1: need to shoot nails into somebody, that's right, or give
Speaker 1: them a good massage, or record what they're saying. That's right. Perfect.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we did not see Davine and Joy Randolph in
Speaker 2: the finale. That was that.
Speaker 1: It was a big big time Oscar winner, now, you know, and.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why wasn't she there at the end wrapping everything up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't. Even she wasn't there like arresting jan
Speaker 2: was she?
Speaker 1: No, she was not. She could have been invited to
Speaker 1: the wedding. They would have invited her to the wedding, right, buddies,
Speaker 1: Oh well, another season.
Speaker 2: One more and that's it?
Speaker 1: Right, that's is it? That is that it did have?
Speaker 1: They said they're only doing it for certain number of years.
Speaker 1: I hope.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's about time.
Speaker 1: Like go ahead into it forever. Well, you know, yeah
Speaker 1: Martin shortened, Steve Martner getting up there. I wish them
Speaker 1: no ill, but you know, and Selena is like read article.
Speaker 1: Selena is a billionaire. She has enormous like real estate
Speaker 1: holdings and businesses.
Speaker 2: She has a beauty company too. Yeah yeah, and think
Speaker 2: of the residuals from Wizards of Waverley Place.
Speaker 1: She doesn't need this bleep.
Speaker 2: She's can you even watch that show anymore?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is it on the depths of Disney Channel Disney Plus, Well.
Speaker 1: They're bringing it back like a like a sequel of it.
Speaker 1: But I think she's just like appearing in the first
Speaker 1: episode because she definitely doesn't need that. No, So you know,
Speaker 1: it's I hope that next season will be better. I
Speaker 1: think they just got a little I don't know, too
Speaker 1: famous and just too I felt bad. I felt bad
Speaker 1: about ringing this bell every episode to that too many
Speaker 1: famous people, too many celebrities. And then I read Alan
Speaker 1: Sepenwall's review of the whole season and he said exactly
Speaker 1: the same thing. So me and Alan, you know we
Speaker 1: need the problem welcome just don't know again, right, And
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to just periodically have Jan
Speaker 1: shoot somebody out of nowhere, Terry will allow that. Stealth
Speaker 1: serial killers, serial killing serial killers. You never know when
Speaker 1: she'll pop up just when you need her, right, hilarious.
Speaker 1: That was what else Chef's kiss? I adored that. It
Speaker 1: was just so ef and ridiculous. It's like, yes, this
Speaker 1: is the perfect solution for this.
Speaker 2: What else parenting can we say about this?
Speaker 1: That's what else parenting can we say about this? Let's
Speaker 1: see watch out what you tell your kids. You know,
Speaker 1: they may have like an interest in something that you
Speaker 1: are personally not interested in. Uh, don't don't force them
Speaker 1: to be the thing you want them to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's special sort of thing you want them to be
Speaker 1: as a killer. But still let the boy go right.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes if you if you squash their natural interests,
Speaker 1: terrible things happen.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: So you know, parents, we all have our our dreams
Speaker 1: for our kids. But if if they would prefer to
Speaker 1: do something non violent, that's probably a good go ahead.
Speaker 1: And yes, go try to be a writer in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It will make you feel like you want to kill
Speaker 1: somebody and then come up in right.
Speaker 2: Then I'll be here with this rifle for you when
Speaker 2: you need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being a writer, good luck with that, you know.
Speaker 1: And then when you're ready to, when you're ready to
Speaker 1: put some hurt on that person who's not paying you,
Speaker 1: come back to me. Yeah, it's writing is not a
Speaker 1: real profession. It'll blow over such a small pervage of people.
Speaker 1: And you know, a good lesson to kids to not
Speaker 1: take other people's work as your own. Make sure you
Speaker 1: drill that in. It's really not cool to steal somebody
Speaker 1: else's work. And it will always come I mean, at
Speaker 1: least if you're on a TV show or movie, it
Speaker 1: will always come to a bad end when you do that. Yes,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. Don't plagiarize. Don't cut
Speaker 1: and paste big swatches of stuff off the Internet and
Speaker 1: paste them into your work and assume that nobody's going
Speaker 1: to notice. I edit notice by novice authors, and I
Speaker 1: you know, to tell is if the punctuation style changes,
Speaker 1: if the wording style changes, if they're suddenly using big
Speaker 1: words that have not done elsewhere, it's like and then
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, copy a swatch of it
Speaker 1: and paste in it to Google and oh look here
Speaker 1: there it is. Yeah, so it's not cool people, Gosh,
Speaker 1: a writer will just put their heart and soul into something.
Speaker 1: Don't take that. Look what happened to sas that was.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be that person who's stealing her work.
Speaker 2: No, definitely not.
Speaker 1: And parents have a harder and harder time figuring out
Speaker 1: that their kids doing that. But still make it clear,
Speaker 1: you know, your own crappy work is better than stealing
Speaker 1: somebody else's because I can always teach you how to kill,
Speaker 1: so we're good. Don't do that either, By the way,
Speaker 1: don't do that either. Don't hear this did not turn
Speaker 1: out well? I bet his dad is gonna wish he
Speaker 1: had never taught that kid to joot a gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or to crawl like outside windows and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's taught him that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. See. Unfortunately, don't take a protege is
Speaker 1: another good lesson. Oh well, and and don't expect too
Speaker 1: much from TV shows. Just lay back and be used.
Speaker 2: That's a little lesson from Terry.
Speaker 1: They can stick the landing, which this did just by
Speaker 1: being throwing everything out the window and being completely ridiculous. Right,
Speaker 1: I can respect that. Just stop poking me in the ribs.
Speaker 2: Well, next week we're going to start something new. We
Speaker 2: are going to get to season two of Shrinking. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's on Apple TV Plus and we very much enjoyed
Speaker 2: season one, so we are excited to be back for more.
Speaker 2: We are a few weeks behind when it's dropping, but
Speaker 2: we are just going to go one at a time.
Speaker 1: And so choose to watch it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So next next whe day we'll discuss the first episode.
Speaker 2: This is the first episode of season two and it's
Speaker 2: called Jimmy Ing. Yep, So we will see you back
Speaker 2: here tomorrow though for our regular weekly roundabout round up.
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