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<v Speaker 1>The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll?

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<v Speaker 3>The question why.

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<v Speaker 2>The stories told and left behind in shadows where the

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<v Speaker 2>truth we find. They built their tails on crafts and

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<v Speaker 2>lives on theories.

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<v Speaker 3>They stake their designed.

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<v Speaker 1>Put down here.

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<v Speaker 2>On this solid brown the answer screen.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all around.

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<v Speaker 1>Rising break through.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time

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<v Speaker 3>for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>your host, as always, George Hobbs. We're recording on this

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful Wednesday evening, July the second, twenty twenty five. But

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<v Speaker 3>everybody had a great holiday weekend as you're about to

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<v Speaker 3>kick off this following week. Just a quick note if

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<v Speaker 3>you would like to join us, please do send us

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<v Speaker 3>an email FE filesguest at gmail dot com. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 3>FE filesguest at gmail dot com. I would ask for

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<v Speaker 3>your patients is we're booked outs and with school picking

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<v Speaker 3>back up in September, I'm not sure how much I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing as far as interviews per week,

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<v Speaker 3>so please bear with is. I try to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone just as quickly as possible. Again, the email

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<v Speaker 3>address is FE files guest at gmail dot com, And

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<v Speaker 3>without any further ado, we're going to bring on today's

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<v Speaker 3>guest in the great state of Utah. It's Tyler. Tyler.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for joining us, Linton joining us tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. George, as always, please take a

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<v Speaker 3>moment and introduce yourself to the audience.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm Tyler from Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>Fairly new to this community that we I guess we'd

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<v Speaker 1>call it, but always been a truth seekert.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe I've always had the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ability to look beyond the veil that the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Places on us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I fact stumbled across your podcast around twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and it was from there on I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>hooked onto this, always searching for the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the realm of rabbit holes? Where did flat

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<v Speaker 3>Earth lie in those? Is that something that's fairly recent

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<v Speaker 3>that you didn't really want to look into or how

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<v Speaker 3>did that all work out?

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<v Speaker 1>It's always been there, I guess since I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I could look up and just realize that something you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something will adding up. I mean, it's just everything about

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<v Speaker 1>it felt different than anything that I could ever perceive

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<v Speaker 1>in my own mind. Yeah, I guess I've I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I've doubted it for most of my ability to remember life.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I think that's a fair statement for many of us,

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<v Speaker 3>even like myself, who really didn't want to look into

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<v Speaker 3>it until five years ago, that things just they just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't add up. But because of that programming and the

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<v Speaker 3>psychological operations through television and the news and everything else,

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought it was silly. But we will get

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<v Speaker 3>to that, and I kind of want to go through

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<v Speaker 3>a chronological order, because I guess, let's start twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. Nine to eleven happens, and you, like many

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<v Speaker 3>other thousands of America's you know you, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to speak for you, but obviously you felt the call

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<v Speaker 3>and you joined the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, two thousand and two hit, and I me

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<v Speaker 1>and several buddies and my little brother, both my uncles,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, we all.

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<v Speaker 5>We all joined.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course my dad was a desert storm veteran.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I mean, back then, you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that it was a It was just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you had to you had to do it anyway as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the the family culture. But when nine to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven hit, it really it really struck a nerve and

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<v Speaker 1>all of us jumped in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you took a role as a combat medic,

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<v Speaker 3>which is, uh is a very very stressful occupation, especially

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<v Speaker 3>on the battlefield. Even the combat lifesaver courses that we

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<v Speaker 3>take and we have to give ivs. That's just that

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<v Speaker 3>in itself is enough to like, Wow, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>singing a needle in another person's arm, especially under the

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<v Speaker 3>duress of combat. Is the next level thing. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>deployed Afghanistan or Iraq during your time?

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<v Speaker 3>Afghanistan? God bless you.

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<v Speaker 3>narrative about nine to eleven wasn't as it was told.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you know, that's that's what's craziest. For the longest time,

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<v Speaker 1>I defended it, and I, like many other veterans, we

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<v Speaker 1>all wanted to, you know, believe that we were serving

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<v Speaker 1>a higher cause being over there. But twenty twenty, with

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<v Speaker 1>of soul search, you know. Most so for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 3>to beat myself up over it, but we can't change

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<v Speaker 3>the past. And part of you know, being a Christian

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<v Speaker 3>is being able to let go of the past and

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<v Speaker 3>changing the future to ensure that we do question the

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<v Speaker 3>next time they try to tell our children or grandchildren

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<v Speaker 3>that hey, this happened, we need to go over here

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<v Speaker 3>and take care of this. That it's more than you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in hindsight, it's about oil, it's about money, It's about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, banks, the banking system. You know that we

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<v Speaker 3>should make it so difficult on this government too. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if they are going to send our families into harms

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<v Speaker 3>way that the weight of that it should be so immense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really hard to put it in words, but over

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<v Speaker 3>the last at least one hundred years, it's just been

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<v Speaker 3>like just sending people off. You know, you look at

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<v Speaker 3>especially since the sixties with Vietnam and then yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad, I can't remember how angry he was in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety two. You know, your dad, my dad, me,

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<v Speaker 3>we were all in desert storm. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ABC News runs a story on the girl who claimed

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<v Speaker 3>to sit there and witness the babies be throwing out

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<v Speaker 3>of these incubators, and she ended up being the Ambassador

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<v Speaker 3>Kuwait's daughter. It was all a lie and ten million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars spent on coaching, you know, the lessons to acting lessons,

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<v Speaker 3>and man, it's just that's when I started to really

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<v Speaker 3>question is there anything organic anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly it. It's so many what seems like false

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<v Speaker 1>flags are red flag events that you know, just help

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you'd call it, you know, funding and patting

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<v Speaker 1>the pockets of are cricket, politicians and.

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<v Speaker 5>The elites.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, that was It's always been about money,

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<v Speaker 3>And through money comes power, and then through power comes corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, these evil entities have been you know,

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<v Speaker 3>piling up this money and power, consolidating through the likes

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<v Speaker 3>of Black Rock and Vanguard to where what you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this Peter theal guy, and this technocracy that they want

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<v Speaker 3>to embrace. You have RFK Junior the other day saying

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's wearing one of these watches, these devices that tracks

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<v Speaker 3>their every movement. He says it on National TV. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do these people not see it's what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. It is absolutely insane what they want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>the pushing the AI on us, everything that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with the AI, the basically what you're just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>with RFK. I mean, pretty soon we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent Big Brother surveillance state.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's real scary what all of our younger kids

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the hundreds of people that have come on

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<v Speaker 3>this program have talked about how influent, how influential twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty was to their awakening process. So I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>would start with, at what point did you realize with COVID,

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, this whole process of shutting down the

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<v Speaker 3>economy and small business was more nefarious than just looking

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<v Speaker 3>out for mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, up until about so in a I was

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<v Speaker 1>still in Prudo, b Alaska on a job there, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>first part of March twenty twenty, and I barely got out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the entire airlines shut down there, so everybody

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<v Speaker 5>And then I could just see.

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<v Speaker 1>That this was bigger and more evil than we could

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<v Speaker 1>ever imagine. And at first I was like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I came home, and my wife and the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and all of us. We were all nervous at first,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, we might should wear that mask because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what this is. But then about a month,

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<v Speaker 1>oh so about May, the first part of May, we realized, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all a scam. It's all a game, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have an agenda behind it. They're planning something bigger

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Either they're testing how far they can push

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<v Speaker 3>I think a huge part of it was a test

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<v Speaker 3>to see how far they could push us without the pushback.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was very shocked to see the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>fear porn that they pushed on people. Like the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I will always remember to the day I

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<v Speaker 3>die is Biden, you know, the President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>looking into a camera and saying, if you do not

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<v Speaker 3>get this vaccination, you're facing a winter of death. And

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that upset me the most was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people are busy. Let's say they came home from worth

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<v Speaker 3>and they hear that, or even a young teenager right well,

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<v Speaker 3>and they hear that, and you know, here's the President

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States saying that you're going to die

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't get the jab. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>so easy, and people just are on to the next saying,

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<v Speaker 3>what is it now, the big beautiful bill, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. And I was glad to see that

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<v Speaker 1>our Senator Lee from here didn't get his way with

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<v Speaker 1>selling off all of our land. It's already hard enough

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<v Speaker 1>so many big interest groups trying to get it up anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>And and I was, I was glad to see that

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<v Speaker 5>that didn't get included in the big beautiful Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>And who knows what else is really in the big

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Bill, haven't I I've come to suspect that the

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<v Speaker 1>entire the entire system is against us. I voted for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump because I definitely wasn't going to vote for Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>And but it's just all coming to fruition. Everything's a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>We get promised everything that never comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are literally the uh, the ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent of this country. We're the backbone of this country.

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<v Speaker 3>you know, lollipops and ice cream. The Bible tells us

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to be persecuted. And I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 1>COVID was more just an eye opener, and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big eye opener. Let me see that

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, have you prior to twenty twenty did you ever

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<v Speaker 3>go down to say the vaccination rabbit hole or is

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<v Speaker 3>that something that opened up during COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I never did that open up during COVID as well.

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<v Speaker 1>the pneumatic vaccinations. You probably remember those, Oh my goodness, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and dad taken me into the clinic or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever to get the yearly vaccine or whatever else you

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<v Speaker 1>had to have to attend public school, and never questioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then twenty twenty, hit man, we sure shut it

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. It's amazing the amount of people. And again

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if they intentionally overplayed their hand or they're

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<v Speaker 3>just so cocky that you know, they're like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that I believe it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it was pure arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>And they, you know, they've went so many years with

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<v Speaker 1>and now you have people like us that are waking

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<v Speaker 1>up and we're not going to bow down no more.

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<v Speaker 3>And the little questionnaire we sent you, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you had mentioned was that interest you was

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<v Speaker 3>these polymetallic note nodules, which is, you know, dark energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you tell us a little bit about that and

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<v Speaker 3>come up on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found that scrolling through the YouTube. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen the WI files, but he was talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I got studying it more. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>more I read to it, the more it makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>as to how we really are a terrarium, almost as

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<v Speaker 1>God built us a terrarium for us to survive, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>to get oxygen, you have to split water molecules through electrolysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so it just kind of makes sense that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not this spinning blue ball through all this vast,

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<v Speaker 1>never ending space, and it just makes sense that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a self sustaining terrarium almost, And I that might

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a far fetched reach, but it just that

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<v Speaker 1>just things like that helps me make more sense of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole grander built thing. By God.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think terrarium is a perfectly I mean with

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<v Speaker 3>the firmament over top of it. Terrarium is a good explanation. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very simple explanation. And science wants to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you all these the gravities, the spinning, the distances and

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<v Speaker 3>all the other nonsense. When again Occam's razor usually ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent of the time comes out to be proper reasoning.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very much in this case and what really

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<v Speaker 3>to this day and again, I just you got to

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<v Speaker 3>tip your cap to these guys because the efforts that

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<v Speaker 3>the subconscious programming, and once you're awake to this, you

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<v Speaker 3>really notice it. Every time my wife and I sit

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<v Speaker 3>down and we'll go back and watch a movie, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's from the sixties, seventies or eighties. Man, there's the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>So we saw a movie, Yeah, we saw a movie

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago called Evolution. It had David d'covney from

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<v Speaker 3>The X Files in it, which is a comedy and

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<v Speaker 3>it's evolution and it's showing how these things continue to evolve.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end they had their driving a fire truck,

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<v Speaker 3>and the fire truck has the number thirty three on it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're talking at about particular you know, the evolution theory.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just man, when you can see these things, it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it's that You're right, the thirty three the

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<v Speaker 1>Masonic numbers. So it's they are literally throwing in our

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when we talk about government cover ups, these are

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<v Speaker 3>really the people at the highest levels who Again, these

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<v Speaker 3>aren't Johnny on the streets, who work really hard and

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<v Speaker 3>go to college and pay their taxes and raise money

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<v Speaker 3>organically and become presidents. These people are part of clubs.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's I think it's more. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 3>a great sermon yesterday and if I can find it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put it in the notes. Talking about the seed lines, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because the pastor made a great point that he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>flood the world simply because people were out or being simple.

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<v Speaker 3>It was because the perversion of his seed line. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he specifically noted genes sixis six, et cetera. And I

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<v Speaker 3>really see because even made the point that these people

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<v Speaker 3>are attacking our bloodlines through mRNA vaccinations, they're attacking our

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<v Speaker 3>food supply with GMO, because what is the M in

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<v Speaker 3>that modifying? So you have these people who are modifying

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<v Speaker 3>people and modifying like everything of God's creation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, gene modification.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean really, that's at the root of evil.

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<v Speaker 5>It is yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we you make a great point there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you look into crisper technologies and the way they

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<v Speaker 1>can literally design a human the way you want it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's absolutely insane. They're trying to play God and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I worry about the consent part because we always

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<v Speaker 3>used to believe that, oh, they had to have your

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<v Speaker 3>consent before they could do these things. But I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>over the last twenty five years, and I go back

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<v Speaker 3>to nine to eleven again, it seems like much of

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<v Speaker 3>that consent, like Satan could lead you to a certain

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<v Speaker 3>point right, but you had to You were the ones

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<v Speaker 3>who had to do it right. So for example, going

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<v Speaker 3>to get an mr anda jab, that's your consent, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter how much like they threaten your job. They do this,

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<v Speaker 3>but they didn't physically tie you down and jab you.

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<v Speaker 3>But it seems to me, over the last twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 3>they've really pushed the limit.

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<v Speaker 1>On that stuff. Yes, yeah, they've muted you enough to

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<v Speaker 1>where you feel power Well, the majority of the population

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<v Speaker 1>feels powerless, almost as like you said, they're not holding

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<v Speaker 1>you down, but they're dangling that apple in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire population. If you do this, you get this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it sort's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like conditioning of the of the coming mark

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<v Speaker 3>of the beast.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it is just conditioning, social conditioning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, if you want this, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. That's really what it's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's it's absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you go back to talking about those that

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<v Speaker 1>It, I believe that there is a there is a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people that full on run this entire world

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<v Speaker 1>from the highest powers we have in this world. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all combined in it together.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. So let me ask you a couple of questions. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think it's family names that we have heard of,

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<v Speaker 3>or do you think there are powers behind those names

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<v Speaker 3>that are much more powerful that we don't even know of.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it's deeper than what.

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<v Speaker 1>We think. A lot of people think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>a family name or you know, the elite families or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But after learning everything and seeing everything, all it is

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<v Speaker 1>is a false target. Look here, while we do this

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<v Speaker 1>over here, bill hands switch game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah slight a hand like the magicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yep, they're only letting us see what they want

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's for sure. I saw a comment that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>made on social media saying that we are so wrapped

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<v Speaker 3>up with technology and the dopamines and you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>instantaneous gratification in today's world that we kind of miss

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<v Speaker 3>that spiritual realm that maybe that you know, back in

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<v Speaker 3>biblical times where they witness these things, maybe they could

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<v Speaker 3>even see, you know, the demons or certain entities. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>that we through everything, whether whether it's radios or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>or just that we even something as simple as somebody said, somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>even something as simple as wearing shoes not being grounded anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, those kind of things have come pulled

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's even even the same as kids and in this

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<v Speaker 1>generation nowadays that don't get out and actually get in

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<v Speaker 1>the sunlight, you know, get the old sunburns and actually

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<v Speaker 1>just get dirty and work hard. It's there. They're no

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's such a good point. You see the children

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<v Speaker 3>of today versus well, you know, I grew up in

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<v Speaker 3>the seventies and eighties, so it was certainly that's not

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<v Speaker 3>even fair to compare. But even back to the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>even they had technology then, even the handheld, the initial

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<v Speaker 3>But the worrisome thing is is the telephone, the telephones,

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<v Speaker 3>the cell phones, the screens, yes you know, the dark

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<v Speaker 3>mirror if you will, and these things that can truly

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<v Speaker 3>control people's minds, and just the perversions that lie there. It's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the biggest worries of our generation and the

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<v Speaker 3>worries of today. You know, my parents could just turn

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<v Speaker 3>tuned out. But now it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's insane. And I always tell my kids stories

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<v Speaker 1>about I mean, you didn't go in the house until

425
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<v Speaker 1>the porch light came on, because if you did, you

426
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<v Speaker 1>had more chores than what you wanted. So you went

427
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<v Speaker 1>out and you found something to do.

428
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<v Speaker 3>Yep, we went out and played baseball or wiffle ball,

429
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 3>and when the street lights came on it was time

430
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<v Speaker 3>to go home.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, it's and like you said, it's everything's conditioning

432
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<v Speaker 1>apparatus tool.

433
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<v Speaker 5>I guess, from anything on the.

434
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<v Speaker 1>News, to the the handheld cell phones to you know,

435
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>all the apps that come on them. But I mean,

436
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just like the the bombing in Iran, I mean, who

437
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>knows what that was really covering up while we were

438
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>looking there, what they were really doing behind the behind

439
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the curtains.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great point that that is something that

441
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 3>we should be asking, you know, when when our everyone

442
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 3>in the world is focused in one direction, But the

443
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 3>question is where do you even look when these things

444
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 3>are going on?

445
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Right?

446
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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty pretty daunting times, it is, for sure. I mean,

447
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and then right before that you have all the the

448
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>UH protest going on. We got a whole another summer

449
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of love coming up, I believe, and.

450
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<v Speaker 5>It it's just more more distraction from what really is

451
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:55.079
<v Speaker 5>going to come up.

452
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<v Speaker 3>I agree. And Uh, do you believe that in our

453
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<v Speaker 3>lifetime that we're going to see things such as a

454
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 3>one world government and you know, maybe a universal dollar,

455
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 3>things of that nature, or do you think they still

456
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<v Speaker 3>have a ways to go to execute that?

457
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I hope I'm wrong, but I I really

458
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>think that the Agenda twenty thirty is somewhat real.

459
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 3>So you think the last five years.

460
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty scary and as hard and fast as they're

461
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>pushing AI.

462
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 5>And just like you said with RFK and the risk.

463
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Band thing, I mean it, I don't know it. Everybody

464
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in government's just a puppet to someone else, and it's

465
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you got the master puppeteer at the very top who

466
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 1>we don't know who it is, but everyone plays their

467
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>role and I believe that. I hope I'm wrong, but

468
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<v Speaker 1>I believe we're heading for the true agenda twenty thirty.

469
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<v Speaker 1>And they weren't very silent about that. I can remember

470
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>when I worked for Cummings. I left them in twenty

471
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and they just started pushing the ESG really hard.

472
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had to go to so many sensitivity

473
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>trainings and I don't know what else you'd call it,

474
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 1>but it's just everything that falls in that ESG. I

475
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>mean we had to sit through class after class. Instead

476
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of going and working on engines, we were sitting there

477
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>in sensitivity training and everything else that we need to

478
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 1>be able to conform with society so that everybody feels

479
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>loved and everybody gets a trophy. It was insane and

480
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I left there. Then it was the last time I

481
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>worked for big corporate America.

482
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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting you mentioned that, because you would have gotten

483
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<v Speaker 3>out of the army in what six o seven? Yeah, seven,

484
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 3>And I started to notice that when I uh redeployed

485
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<v Speaker 3>I for my fifteenth month tour No.

486
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 1>No.

487
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Two thousand and seven and nine, I guess about twenty ten,

488
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven, we were going through the exact same thing.

489
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Like I had guys who needed to go out to

490
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>the range and zero their weapon or do low density training.

491
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 3>But we're in these classes what did they call them,

492
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 3>sharp classes doing all of these things. I'm just like,

493
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 3>what are we doing here? And then they had male

494
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 3>NCOs wearing red heels and all of this other stuff.

495
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I know I've said it before, but man,

496
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I was really when it was time to retire. It

497
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 3>was really time to go. I don't know if it

498
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 3>was just that's the way it is with generational kind

499
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 3>of ideology, but to me, it was you just can't

500
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>have wokeness in that line of business. This is something

501
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>completely different than any other corporation in the world. This

502
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>is when you look at the down and dirty mission

503
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 3>of the United States military is just one mission, and

504
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 3>that's to kill the enemy. And here you are, you

505
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>have guys these classes, and I'm just like, man, we're

506
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 3>in trouble. If the rubber ever has to really hit

507
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<v Speaker 3>the road.

508
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<v Speaker 5>It's absolutely insane. And I think this all started.

509
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 1>So. I mean, I had a little cousin that joined

510
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>after me and my brother, and so he when I

511
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was getting out, he had just went to basic training

512
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 1>in Fort Jackson, relaxing Jackson, of course. But right during

513
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>then is when they started handing out the stress cards.

514
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 1>And when he came back between that and ait, he

515
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was asking me if we had those, and I'm like,

516
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 1>what the heck is this stress card? I mean, and

517
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.839
<v Speaker 1>they hold him up when drill sergeant was getting too

518
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<v Speaker 1>too verbal with them.

519
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow, my drill sartin. Would a body slammed me?

520
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's what my dad said. He always told me

521
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>the stories of the nineteen eighties.

522
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Drill sergeantcy Yeah, man, I went in eighty seven and

523
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.079
<v Speaker 3>he was a mean guy until the last day. I

524
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 3>was just normal guy. Hey, I'm done, I'm going fishing tomorrow.

525
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll see you like, what are you ready to

526
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 3>murder me yesterday?

527
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

528
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Man?

529
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the world's changed, definitely. It really had crazy

530
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>what twenty years will do.

531
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<v Speaker 3>In your course of rabbit hole research, you obviously had

532
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 3>to come upon the moon landing. What was your thoughts

533
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 3>on that?

534
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I knew that thing was fake since day one.

535
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as a little kid, there's no way. I

536
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>always wondered, how the heck do they fit that thing

537
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in that tiny little lander of a made out of

538
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>what looked like tinfoil? And to me, I guess that's

539
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 1>where the tinfoil hat came from.

540
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great point.

541
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean they wadded it up when they were done

542
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and built a hat out of it. And then we emerged.

543
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I call myself a conspiracy realist versus a theorist.

544
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 3>We're we're people say what's the difference between a conspiracy

545
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>theory and the truth? And I say it's about six

546
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>weeks nowadays.

547
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 1>It is, It really is. It's all that whole thing though.

548
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 1>And then you got that that new show with Channing

549
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Tatum to Fly Me to the Moon. Oh that one.

550
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 5>They really throw it in your face.

551
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do.

552
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 5>It is straight up throw it in your face.

553
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 3>So I'll ask you a couple of questions, and I

554
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 3>want you to questions partan me, and I want you

555
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 3>to tell me your thoughts on it. Number One, at

556
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>what point and we're talking about Apollo eleven here July twentieth,

557
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, nineteen sixty nine, At what point do you

558
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 3>think those three guys knew that they weren't going to

559
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>the moon?

560
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Probably five minutes prior to onboarding.

561
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's they let them.

562
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 5>They let them believe it until the very end.

563
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

564
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 3>That seems to be a ninety nine percent of the

565
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>people who I have spoken to that's been and their theory.

566
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And you can just look at man and I know

567
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 3>people say they don't feel bad for them, but I mean,

568
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>could you imagine Number one. On one side, you are

569
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 3>known as the man who went to the moon, and

570
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 3>this guy's great great great great grandson. You know, I

571
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I'm part of the lineage who went

572
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>to the moon. But at the same time you had

573
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 3>the people that were calling his dad a fraud. But

574
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>obviously Neil couldn't handle it. He never came out and

575
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 3>talked to the one guy who went to the moon.

576
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I'd be doing press conferences. I'd be sponsored by Nike,

577
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, Gatorade commercials. Oh yes, in my nineties until

578
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 3>the end of my life. Right, you'd be on book tours.

579
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 3>This guy just became a recluse because and it's really

580
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 3>evil when you think about it.

581
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is in a way. I do feel

582
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>bad for those astronauts. But and I guess as we

583
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 1>get older, we lose filters. And you could tell that

584
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>when buzz Aldrin punched that guy. Yeah.

585
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>But but something that made me kind of rethink my

586
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 3>feelings towards this was when Bart Sibrel interviewed that guy

587
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 3>in his house and he forgot to take he got

588
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>kicked out of the house, but he accidentally left the

589
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 3>mic on that guy, and you could overhear him saying, Hey,

590
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 3>do you want us to call the CIA and take

591
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 3>this guy out?

592
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, man, obvious, that is a new learning

593
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for me. What you just told me.

594
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh you haven't seen that. I will, I will, I'll

595
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 3>send you that done.

596
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

597
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 3>It was in one of his documentaries. He hit the

598
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 3>guy and his son was there and they threw him

599
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 3>out of the house. But he got out in such

600
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a rush. He didn't take his microphone off, and he

601
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't hear it until he went home and replayed the

602
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 3>audio to do with editing. He's like, holy cow. So

603
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 3>you know that makes you think. Obviously they told them

604
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 3>if you tell a soul, you know your family's going

605
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 3>to die in a plane act or something to that nature.

606
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 3>So you know, what are you going to do?

607
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Right?

608
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's that that's a rough spot to be in.

609
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, I think a lot of situations that go

610
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>down that same path. I mean there's lots of things

611
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that that just like we were talking about the polymetallic nodules,

612
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean they they had a secret, uh cover up.

613
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 5>It was Operation Azar.

614
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And that what what they said it was for was

615
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 1>to recover a Russian submarine and well they were obviously

616
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 1>doing other things, and it's just you never know what

617
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they really have going on. And the the lifelong government

618
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>employees that get wrapped up in it and chewed up

619
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 1>and spit out, it's it's pretty crazy.

620
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>What did you said it was Azar?

621
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Operation Azar?

622
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's interesting because didn't Alex it's Azar? A Zar

623
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 3>was any part of the genesis of Operation Warp Speed.

624
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 1>It might be, so, oh, I apologize it was project

625
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>is Oriented, Project is.

626
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Orient project Azorian. Yes, oh there it is. Okay, that's right,

627
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the K one twenty nine, that's right, yep, yep. So

628
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 3>it was also called Jennifer by the press because of

629
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 3>its top secret security. It was a us CIA project

630
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 3>to recover the sunken Soviet submarine K one twenty nine

631
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 3>from the Pacific Ocean in nineteen seventy four. Yes, and

632
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 3>this had ties Project.

633
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Building Bloomer Explorer to do it.

634
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's crazy that this the the clandestine operations that

635
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 3>these guys run, because that basically went hand in hand

636
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 3>with Project Mohole, which was attempt for them to drill

637
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 3>it was in the sixties through the Earth's crust to

638
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 3>obtain samples of all this other crazy stuff.

639
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so funny drilling through the crust.

640
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but listen, if you think about it, some of

641
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>these you know the think about it, right. You you

642
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 3>start an LLC, you have oil or maybe you have

643
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 3>an oil drilling operation that dried up, and you have

644
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 3>all this equipment, and you know your buddy at the CIA, sir,

645
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 3>we have this top secret program that we need you

646
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 3>to sign sign off on. And they take this old

647
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 3>drilling equipment out there and they get a huge contract.

648
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Like how many of these things do you think they

649
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>make up just to to make money off of the government.

650
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<v Speaker 5>Right, Yep, it goes back to Massa too. It is

651
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 5>just another cover up.

652
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is a great link to it, says

653
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the project and this is Project Mohol. I'll put the

654
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 3>links in the notes. The project was intended to provide

655
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<v Speaker 3>an earth science compliment to the high profile space race.

656
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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, it is just unbelievable. And going back to

657
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 5>the to the moon.

658
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we were falling behind and Russia was absolutely destroying

659
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>us in technology.

660
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 3>So do you think that was the primary reason why

661
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>they did this?

662
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>See?

663
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<v Speaker 3>The only issue I have with that. I mean, obviously

664
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>on technology, technological advances, we could argue that, but at

665
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 3>some point when do all the agencies get together. I mean,

666
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 3>it's it kind of similar to like nukes. It's like

667
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just one giant game of bluff to whereas if

668
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:04.519
<v Speaker 3>any anybody came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore, I believe that's right. I apologize, but anymore, I

670
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 1>believe that's that's right. Just like the bombing that just

671
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>happened there, and then you hear so many contro stories

672
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that Trump had warned them and they were working with you.

673
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You can bomb us here in Qatar, but only this

674
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>certain spot. I mean, everything just links together where it's

675
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>all one. I mean, we might already be in one

676
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 1>world organization.

677
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 3>I believe it's been that way for a long long time. Probably.

678
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 3>I think this the fate was pretty much sealed at

679
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the end of World War Two. And there may have

680
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 3>been a few I guess you could call them outlanders

681
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 3>out there, yep, But I think for the most part,

682
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 3>you're right. I think most of the governments are you know,

683
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 3>you're going to be the good guy, you're going to

684
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>be the bad guy. But obviously when you say that,

685
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>it's viewed differently. So here in the United States, many

686
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 3>people view Putin as this evil dictator, while in Russia

687
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 3>and other countries, is it's just WWE. Like some people

688
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 3>like rooting for the heels, some people like rooting for

689
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 3>the good guys.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly it.

691
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just that's a good way to put it.

692
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 5>It is a WWE. It's just absolutely insane, and so

693
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 5>go ahead.

694
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really just one big motion picture. If you

695
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>really put it all, you set it all out on

696
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 1>a table and count the pieces. It's all leads to

697
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>one big motion picture produced in Hollywood.

698
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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't agree more. Do you think there was one event

699
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.159
<v Speaker 3>or one timeframe when the powers that be got together

700
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and said, hey, this particular psychological operation can really help

701
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>us lead people away from God? Or do you think

702
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>there was one moment when this globe Earth operation went

703
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:02.559
<v Speaker 3>into effect?

704
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Off the top of my head, I can't think. But

705
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you look at Universal Studios when that came

706
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 1>out with the Earth spinning around and that right around

707
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the same time that the you know, Department of Education

708
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 1>was created in the Treasury and it so I mean it,

709
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess may maybe clear back as far as the

710
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, mid to late twenties.

711
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's you know, the thirties for sure, is

712
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 3>when Germany, you know, they're in this huge transition from

713
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Weimar to national socialism, and they have these boats all

714
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 3>the way you know, this is Germany. They're locked in Europe,

715
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 3>right and they have these ships all the way down

716
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 3>in Antarctica. Now we're told in our history books that

717
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 3>they were fishing for whale for the fat. And forgive

718
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 3>me if I'm wrong, I'm shooting from the hip here,

719
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 3>but I think it was like what they used for

720
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 3>soap like like it was that kind of story. And

721
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 3>then a few years later, you know, we're fighting World

722
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 3>War two against them. I tend to believe, and I

723
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 3>could be wrong here, but I think obviously all these

724
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 3>wars that there's something we don't know about, there's a

725
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 3>greater story behind it. In many cases, maybe it's just

726
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 3>population control. That's one of their That was their first

727
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 3>guideline on the Georgia guidestones. Right, But did they come

728
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 3>upon a technology down there that they didn't tell us about?

729
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Right?

730
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 3>We saw the bell those bell ufo looking things that

731
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.199
<v Speaker 3>the Nazis had in the thirties and forties. They had

732
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 3>Skype in the thirties, they had the VW built, they

733
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 3>built the Audubon, and all of a sudden they went

734
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 3>from Wymar, which was completely broke, pictures of people with

735
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 3>wheelbarrels of cash walking through the street, to ten years later. Yes,

736
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 3>they're one of the most powerful countries in the world.

737
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 3>So I really think there's something bigger here.

738
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 1>There is, and I I mean there might be a

739
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of your viewers that think, like me too, there's

740
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>there We have uncovered technology somewhere along our line in

741
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the in the last fifty years, because I just don't

742
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 1>believe that we can go from, like you said, pushing

743
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 1>wheelbarrows and horse drawn cannons in World War Two to

744
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you got the V two rocket.

745
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 5>And just the technology we have now.

746
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had to have obtained it somehow, and

747
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 1>so I believe that they did find something down there.

748
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>And then how every we can't in the world. We

749
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>can't agree on one thing, but we can all agree

750
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Antarctic Treaty, right. It just blows my mind

751
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 1>that we have so much turmoil so called on the media,

752
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>but we can agree that Antarctica is off limits. So

753
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of so many wormholes. That's why I like

754
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>listening to your show. It's just get a lot of

755
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different ideas out there, and I like it.

756
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the wormholes never end. And just to clarify here

757
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 3>said during the late nineteen thirties, the German Antarctic Expedition

758
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 3>of thirty eight and thirty nine, they were engaged in

759
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 3>whaling activities in Antarctica. And now what they're saying these

760
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:42.239
<v Speaker 3>expeditions secured from the whales the fat produced margarine, which

761
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 3>is a staple food in Germany. Okay, well, I mean

762
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 3>margarine slash butter. I mean that's a staple in every

763
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 3>country in the world, right, right, you can make it

764
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.639
<v Speaker 3>with margarine slash butter, you know, with cream. But they

765
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 3>also said various military applications including machine uber crints, lubri

766
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 3>can't s pardon me, and as an additive to nitroglycerin.

767
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 3>So of course they claim new Swabia, there just has

768
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 3>to be something man, Because now I hear people argue

769
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that as technology advance or advances, pardon me, it's been

770
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a long day. As technology advances, things speed up, right

771
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 3>that you know, at once you create fire, you know,

772
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 3>like they say that you still got to do the

773
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 3>wheel and it takes a long time, but once you

774
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 3>start getting tools and resources, things accelerate. I'll buy that

775
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 3>to a certain extent, right because literally from the Civil War,

776
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>which yes, they had trains at that point with I

777
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 3>think steam engines to the eighteen hundred eighteen eighties cars

778
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 3>and then planes after that, and by the twenties and

779
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>thirties they had just airline transportation was just par for

780
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 3>the course. It's just crazy, but so I think another

781
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 3>thing that gets overlooked a lot is the Hindenberg explosion

782
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.679
<v Speaker 3>and how they just through one accident they got rid

783
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 3>of that completely, right, So airplanes crash all the time.

784
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 3>The airlines continue. Unfortunately, I think the last time I

785
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 3>looked forty thousand people in America dying car crashes every year.

786
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 3>They keep manufacturing cars. But these Zeppelins, that was it.

787
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 5>Yep, it just ended.

788
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 1>And you can read all kinds of things about that

789
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>where it says it was, you know, another another way

790
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 1>to help fast forward to where we were going and

791
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in the in the World War two and then but

792
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>just like you said, one way to get rid of something.

793
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Just like you hear of lots of people that invent

794
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the hyder or the engine that runs

795
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on air. And he was executed and somehow found worry

796
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 1>off himself and so you never know, there's lots of

797
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>there's so many cover ups.

798
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 5>It's just insane.

799
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Unfortunately that going up against the medical, military and

800
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 3>big oil is in many cases it's a death sentence.

801
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 3>And that's just that's factual kind of transitioning to flatter earth.

802
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 3>What do you remember what year it was or was

803
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 3>there a certain event that you decided to buckle down

804
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 3>and look into this or was this something you came upon.

805
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't.

806
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 5>I can't pin point an exact date.

807
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like I said, it's almost it's almost

808
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like I've never believed in the spinning round, big beautiful ball, right,

809
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So it I just I've never really bought into it,

810
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and I've always I've always been a doubter of that,

811
00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>no matter, no matter what else. I never doubted vaccines,

812
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I never doubted the government, never doubted that we went

813
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and did what we did so that it made the

814
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>world a better place. But one thing I can know

815
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is I never, never ever believed in that we were

816
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>something that just came out of a speck of dust

817
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 1>in the midst of here black and all of a sudden,

818
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>everything in the universe was created.

819
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's silly. Do you remember finding maybe a video

820
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>or realizing that there's other people out there the community?

821
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 3>And I guess the part two of that question would be,

822
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 3>how did it go the first time you tried to

823
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 3>share that with someone?

824
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So the first time, the very first person is my wife,

825
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and my wife's my rid or die She even if

826
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>she doubts she is open to hearing it, and she'll

827
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>full on debate me and then we'll talk about things

828
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and we move forward. And she now, even now, even

829
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 1>my wife has looks at everything and she's like, this

830
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is not real, that we are not what what they

831
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>say we are. That's all she Yeah, been good. I've

832
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I've told it to lots of my dad, my brother,

833
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>and a couple buddies I've worked with, but they they

834
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of laugh it off. But I you know, the

835
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 1>more the more I present it, the more they're like, whoa,

836
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.519
<v Speaker 1>this is not real. We are not But they all

837
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>still believe in evolution. Oh yeah, they're still most most

838
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 1>anybody I know, they don't. They may not believe in evolution,

839
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 1>but they're still on the thought of the big bang.

840
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<v Speaker 3>Now are these people? Would you say their church are

841
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 3>going Christians or not so much?

842
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, everybody I know here in Utah was at some

843
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 1>point either LDS Christian, Yeah, faith, faith based people exactly.

844
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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it. And that's so

845
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 3>surprising to me because and I've I'm very clear about

846
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<v Speaker 3>this with people. I don't I won't even tolerate a

847
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 3>conversation evolution and the Book of genesis does not. They're

848
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.599
<v Speaker 3>not compatible in any way, shape or form.

849
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 1>No, they're not. We did not come from a salamander

850
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 1>looking thing up out of the ocean. It just doesn't

851
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>make sense to the so called missing link. I mean,

852
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I just just doesn't make sense. We were built in

853
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>God's image and we were purpose built. We're not a deficiency.

854
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>We're not an accident. We were purpose built.

855
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 3>That's right. And unfortunately many of the deficiencies that we

856
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 3>see today are man made, right, you know what I mean,

857
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 3>these things that you know, And again I'm not here

858
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.920
<v Speaker 3>to bash science. As far as you know medicine, there's

859
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 3>been many great, uh, you know, discoveries that have helped

860
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>ease you know, things that maybe two hundred years ago

861
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 3>was a death sentence. Today we can just get something

862
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 3>over not over the counter, but are prescription and we're

863
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 3>good to go, you know, a marxacyllin or whatever, you know, penicillin.

864
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

865
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, many of the you know,

866
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 3>let's just call it what it is, the pharmaceutical industrial complex,

867
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 3>all these vaccines, I believe their generational ramifications with some

868
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 3>of these, the same as if you if you delineate

869
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 3>a seat in the ground it's offspring is going to

870
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 3>be delineated.

871
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yep.

872
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 1>And just like the flu vaccine that leads to GBS,

873
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, the gule embars syndrome. I mean, people are

874
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 1>upright walking one day and they get that. And I

875
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 1>know several people that have had Gulian bear and they

876
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 1>still have it. They can't get rid of it. And

877
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't make sense. Everything is manufactured to make

878
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, without dependency of medical care, you they wouldn't

879
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 1>make no money.

880
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 3>That that's something that I that I try to remind

881
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 3>people when I have that conversation with them that anytime

882
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>something becomes a business, the shareholders of the number one

883
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 3>priority yep. And nobody can argue that. And we saw

884
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 3>shareholders get rewarded in just unbelievable ways from twenty twenty

885
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 3>through the next few years after that. Although I will

886
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 3>say hopefully that it has woken enough people up that

887
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 3>they're reaping what they sewed back in you know, twenty twenty, yep.

888
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 5>I share.

889
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I sure hope that because a lot of people made

890
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it very big off of that vaccine and it really

891
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything. I mean, you look at just like

892
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the flu vaccine, they build it

893
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>for last year's variant and it never is the same.

894
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the flu is always mutating and finding ways

895
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 1>to beat their so called vaccine.

896
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was interesting when the Cleveland Clinic released their

897
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 3>studies a month ago and they said, if you got

898
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.039
<v Speaker 3>the flu shot in the fall of twenty twenty four,

899
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 3>you had I think the number was a twenty seven

900
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 3>percent more of a chance of getting the flu than

901
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.880
<v Speaker 3>if you were unvaccinated. Yep, like that is just.

902
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty insane what they tell us. And a lot

903
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of people believe it though, And it's almost sad for

904
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the people that continuously keep on believing in what they're fed.

905
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>That the information they're fed, they just eat it like

906
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>literal word salad, and they eat it up.

907
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 3>So I believe we as humans, we are very much

908
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 3>most of us, not everybody, but most of us are

909
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 3>creatures of habit and we don't feel comfortable going against

910
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the grain. And we're brought up, like you said in

911
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, when we're brought up in a world where you,

912
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, do this, you get your vaccines in the fall.

913
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just something that subconsciously it makes it more difficult.

914
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Even when you have the evidence placed in front of you,

915
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 3>so that brings us full circle. Even when we have

916
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 3>all of these flat earth proofs, people still have that

917
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>subconscious psychological propagation that they can't see the truth when

918
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 3>it's right in front of.

919
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Them, right, and I mean the simplest things. That water

920
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>finds its level, you can see you. So in prude

921
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>O Bay, it's one of the flattest places I've ever

922
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 1>been until you you can see the Brooks Range, which

923
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 1>is over one hundred miles away. But you can literally

924
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>look out anywhere and see I mean, never ending sight.

925
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's insane and that right there should be evidence in

926
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>its own and people still just keep on believing it

927
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is that at the Puedo State Park, Uh, prude O Bay, Alaska,

928
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 1>dead Horse or Alaska.

929
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Yep, you can.

930
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 1>You can. You can stand at any given point on

931
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the on the shoreline there and you can see the

932
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Brooks Range, which is anywhere from seventy two miles to

933
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles away. Granted they're they're pretty tall mountains,

934
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but still, I mean you if there was a light

935
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.199
<v Speaker 1>shining in Cactobic, which is one hundred miles away, you

936
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 1>can see it.

937
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 3>When I put that into Google, it told me it

938
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 3>is that the same as Proto Bay oil fill.

939
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

940
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha, gotcha. So that's at the very northern point

941
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 3>of the last.

942
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Like up top, top, top top top.

943
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep, nice warm weather up there is so oh yeah, nice,

944
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>nice tropical weather.

945
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 3>That place is pulling in well twenty five billion barrels

946
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 3>of oil. Yep, my goodness, gracious. Back to your your proofs.

947
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.840
<v Speaker 3>You you'd already mentioned water finds its level, which even

948
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 3>with a level, there's water inside the level. People still

949
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 3>don't want to hear that. What other proofs will you

950
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:50.079
<v Speaker 3>present to people when when you're having this conversation, So

951
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 3>your your silver bullets, if you will.

952
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 1>So I bring up line of sight, you know, and

953
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I do. I do a lot of long range shooting

954
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:07.840
<v Speaker 1>as as a hobby. Number one thing is the Coriolis effect.

955
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That's just insane. I even at seventeen hundred yards, you know,

956
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>seventy sixty one mile, even up to twenty two hundred yards,

957
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I do not have to count for the Coriolis effect,

958
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that's right. I accommodate for wind, temperature, atmospheric pressure, but

959
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 1>not not correolis.

960
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 5>So I I like to take people out shooting with

961
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 5>me and show them that that has nothing to do

962
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:39.719
<v Speaker 5>with it.

963
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I bring up the moon in the sun that there's

964
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 1>no way that big old giant fireball is ninety three

965
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>million miles away. There's just no way. And if it was,

966
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>if it was truly curved, how does light accent on

967
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 1>different points at the same different time, if it was

968
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a spear.

969
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I agree that that to me is one of the

970
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 3>most important ones. Every time when I'm driving in the evening,

971
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.400
<v Speaker 3>you know it's the sun starting to set as we

972
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 3>call it the or even in the mornings, early mornings.

973
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 3>The way the rays are coming through the clouds, It's

974
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 3>just there's no way that if it came from that distance,

975
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 3>they would come. You know, this spread apart in that

976
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 3>type of array, the crepuscular I think it's called Chris puppy,

977
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 3>you know.

978
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>What I mean exactly, the way it cuts through to

979
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>at almost at five degree angle.

980
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's no matter where you're at.

981
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. Let me ask you this real quick

982
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 3>before I forget in your opinion, and do you have

983
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 3>an idea what you believe? You know, they tell us

984
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.800
<v Speaker 3>the moon and the sun and the moon specifically causes

985
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the tides high tide low two times a day. Is

986
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 3>that something you had ever thought about?

987
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So being being to so many different you know, coastal

988
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 1>lines and lake shores and ponds, it just it doesn't

989
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>make sense.

990
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 5>That's that's all. That's all wind, pressure and time.

991
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>There's no just like gravity is a theoretical a theoretical

992
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>science method. It's theoretical. It's not, which means it has

993
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>not been proven. It's still not been proven. I believe

994
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that everything inside of our like we were talking earlier,

995
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 1>our terrarium is all pressure and time. It's at that

996
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 1>certain point inside of the terrarium. I believe that it

997
00:59:52.920 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>will It will influence water levels, but not not not

998
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>really water levels either because.

999
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Because the water levels, you're not.

1000
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Going to influence them to the point of like I mean,

1001
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>some shorelines you'll get a six foot title uh influence,

1002
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.360
<v Speaker 1>but that's just because of wind and all the time

1003
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 1>you have wind after that really high tide.

1004
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:25.039
<v Speaker 5>The wind comes after.

1005
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>The tide does. So I believe it's I believe it's

1006
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the weather inside of archer Aim if

1007
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that if you will.

1008
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not completely understand it certainly isn't the moon. That

1009
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 3>that is another one of the things that Isaac Newton

1010
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 3>came up with in he was part of the Philosophical

1011
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Cli Philosophical Click all part of the click with Darwin

1012
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 3>and Darwinism Louis Pasture who came up with pasteurized milk, you.

1013
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Know, yep, so yep.

1014
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of past your eyes, I mean most of

1015
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.599
<v Speaker 1>society is like a herd of cattle set out the pasture,

1016
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and if you feed them, they'll not pay attention to anywhere.

1017
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 5>They have no susitional awareness.

1018
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that kind of goes back to that. That's saying,

1019
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, hard times create hard men, and then you know,

1020
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 3>self times or easy times create soft men, and you

1021
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 3>know this vicious cycle. Yep, you know, And that's kind

1022
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 3>of where we're at now. And I think they're intentionally

1023
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:40.760
<v Speaker 3>making people if they make you and I understand. Listen,

1024
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 3>the few times I've said this, I got an email

1025
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 3>and people are going through difficult times. I'm not saying this,

1026
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:48.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know this applies to every single person, but

1027
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:53.840
<v Speaker 3>in a general kind of snapshot compared to what many

1028
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 3>people live in this world, you know, with Wi Fi

1029
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:01.320
<v Speaker 3>and cell phones and instant technology and your door dash

1030
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 3>and everything else. We live very comfortably, and I think

1031
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they're intentionally doing that so that when it is time

1032
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 3>to put the rubber to the road, people will not

1033
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.519
<v Speaker 3>want to get out of their comfort zones.

1034
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 5>That's exactly it.

1035
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>That's it. So a lot of even even as far

1036
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 1>as uh So, right before I left Cummings, we had

1037
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 1>we were moving towards what was called EDS and it

1038
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 1>was Electronic Diagnostic.

1039
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:34.840
<v Speaker 5>Service support.

1040
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 1>It takes your brain out, you don't think, because now

1041
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 1>now most technicians nowadays allow the computers to do the thing,

1042
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and so they don't they don't go outside the box.

1043
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 5>They rely on computers do everything for them. Just like

1044
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:49.760
<v Speaker 5>you're saying.

1045
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.079
<v Speaker 1>They now they have a comfort zone and they don't

1046
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.880
<v Speaker 1>know how to function outside of that comfort zone anymore.

1047
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a great point, and I'm sure there's a lot

1048
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:03.519
<v Speaker 3>of other aspects industries that are in the same type

1049
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 3>of boat and people won't be willing, you know, many

1050
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 3>people won't be willing to give up their comforts, and

1051
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 3>that's really I think something that you know, I don't

1052
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 3>like to use the term prepper so much, but people

1053
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 3>who kind of have an understanding where things are going,

1054
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 3>and we try to look out for ourselves in case

1055
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 3>of something like this, people will probably laugh. But every

1056
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 3>spring or fall, not so much in the winter. Maybe

1057
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 3>in the winter my wife and I put up we

1058
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 3>have a beltint, an eighteen foot bell tint and the

1059
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<v Speaker 3>heater and we'll go out there. We'll set everything up

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01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and we'll spend a night out there. And it reminds

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01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 3>you how how quick we you you know, how your

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01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 3>life could change, going from all the modern comforts to

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01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 3>just looking for shelter and be able to have fire

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01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.440
<v Speaker 3>for warmth and to cook your food. It is sobering

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01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 3>and it also for us it helps us appreciate what

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<v Speaker 3>we have.

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<v Speaker 5>And that really does and.

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01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 1>It's almost back to grounding experience. Lets you know that

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01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:12.039
<v Speaker 1>all this can go away. And it's funny even nowadays

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01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 1>with all my kids are guilty of when the when

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01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the power goes that we have a power disruption and

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01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 1>they leave their WiFi and their cell signal and they

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01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.280
<v Speaker 1>just almost have a melt down over it.

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01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'll play a joke on them and unplug the

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01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.360
<v Speaker 1>router just to see how many of them will come

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01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 1>out of their rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, that's one way to do it. We're down to

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01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.440
<v Speaker 3>about the last ten minutes or so, was there any

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01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:44.920
<v Speaker 3>other rabbit holes that you wanted to mention or anything

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01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.360
<v Speaker 3>specific about flat Earth that you wanted to bring up.

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01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess with the flat earth thing, I just encourage

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01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.199
<v Speaker 1>anybody to just do their own research, don't just rely

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01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:01.119
<v Speaker 1>on what everybody says or what Ritah as a kid,

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01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:07.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, be willing to chase the uncomfortable, be

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01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 1>willing to you know, open your mind up and realize

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01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that there's more than just this programming that we've been

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01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 1>all I've been through.

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01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's the theme for these last couple

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01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 3>of weeks I'd mentioned in my last interview. I believe that,

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01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, a local preacher was talking about exactly like,

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01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.039
<v Speaker 3>get out of your comfort zone. If you're if you're

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01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.719
<v Speaker 3>too comfortable, then you're probably not doing enough, whether it's

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01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, sharing the gospel or helping out your fellow man,

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01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:43.519
<v Speaker 3>or you know, because it's these type of conversations, whether

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01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 3>it's biblical cosmology or sharing the gospel, and many times

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01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 3>it's not comfortable to bring up with with other folks

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01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.719
<v Speaker 3>that you're not one hundred percent close with. Even some

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01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 3>of these discussions are tough with even close families with

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01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 3>brothers and sisters and parents. But I think we're at

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01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:05.599
<v Speaker 3>a time that these these conversations need to be broached.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know there's a lot of people who were

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01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 3>on the precipice of building up confidence to bring these

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01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:15.559
<v Speaker 3>things up to people, and I encourage everyone to just

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01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 3>take the leap, and you never know what will be

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01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:19.960
<v Speaker 3>received on the other end.

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01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I totally agree with you, And I guess

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01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.320
<v Speaker 1>one point that I that we didn't bring up or

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01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I felt dimension is so through through discovering the flat Earth,

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01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 1>if you will, it has brought me closer to God

1111
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and the Gospel of you know, reading and actually understanding

1112
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:43.960
<v Speaker 1>so many things that you take for granted in the

1113
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Bible that are actually real and it tell I mean,

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01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it's right there, it tells you. And so through my

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01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>discovery self discovery of all this it, I've learned that

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01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I use I use that a lot.

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01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll pull up Bible verses and show them, you know,

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01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and show them how to look it up for themselves.

1119
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And for the most part, most conversations go pretty good.

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01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you get a laugh out of them, and sometimes

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01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll shrug it off, but usually they'll be like, hey,

1122
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 1>what we were talking about that? What was your meaning?

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01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they always come back and they want to

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01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:23.599
<v Speaker 1>understand more one percent.

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01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 3>And I've gotten so many emails from people who tell

1126
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:29.039
<v Speaker 3>me that, hey, Bob listens to your podcast and he

1127
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 3>talked to me, and initially I blew him off. And

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01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 3>it's a case of the you know, curiosity just eats

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01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:37.639
<v Speaker 3>out of them enough to where they go back and

1130
01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:41.280
<v Speaker 3>finally look and they do research and then like everybody else,

1131
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:43.760
<v Speaker 3>two weeks later, have no sleep. They're like, oh my gosh,

1132
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 3>this is real.

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01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It is. It is, it really is, and it's the

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01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.920
<v Speaker 1>most interesting thing I've ever came upon. It really is.

1135
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:56.159
<v Speaker 1>It is.

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01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:01.559
<v Speaker 3>And when you can see through Satan's deception and it's

1137
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 3>it's rewarding because you are aware of the world you're

1138
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:12.360
<v Speaker 3>living in and the realism, like you mentioned, is extremely

1139
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.119
<v Speaker 3>important understanding Like these people on the television, they're trying

1140
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to instill fear with me. And you know how I

1141
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.239
<v Speaker 3>can overcome it. Click that term. I don't have haven't

1142
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:23.600
<v Speaker 3>had cable in years. I don't listen to that nonsense.

1143
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't do the divide and conquer. I try to

1144
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.520
<v Speaker 3>stay cognizant of what's going on around us. I'll peek in,

1145
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.920
<v Speaker 3>but so much of it is silly now. It's just

1146
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.159
<v Speaker 3>it's so much wasted energy when people could be doing

1147
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 3>so much more.

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01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.000
<v Speaker 1>No, you're absolutely right, And through my understanding of all this,

1149
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.399
<v Speaker 1>it's it's helped me under also understand that they're just

1150
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 1>talking heads on TV. They ain't. They ain't no different.

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01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.399
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they're they're less knowledgeable than what I ever

1152
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 1>thought they were.

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01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 3>They are that there are people who were put on

1154
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.119
<v Speaker 3>TV because of their looks, and they can read most

1155
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 3>of these news anchors. Like growing up, I believe that

1156
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.199
<v Speaker 3>these people were out on the street trying to get

1157
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.640
<v Speaker 3>the story on the phone, that they're just reading what

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01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 3>they're told to read.

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:12.359
<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely correct, and it's an eye open urse. So

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01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.840
<v Speaker 1>when you start with this rat hole of flat earth

1161
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and it opens up everything to more, eventually you're just

1162
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 1>wide awake, yep, and you can no longer be bought

1163
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:31.319
<v Speaker 1>or sold. So I I very much appreciate my findings

1164
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of this, and you do a heck of a job

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01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 1>of getting the word out well.

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01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. It's been an honor and a privilege

1167
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 3>to have this conversation one or two times a week

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01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:45.319
<v Speaker 3>for the last two and a half years. It's you know,

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01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel really blessed to be able to talk about

1170
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and talk about different rabbit holes and listen to people's journeys.

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01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 3>It's truly been a blessing and I can't thank you

1172
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.560
<v Speaker 3>enough for coming on this evening and sharing your story

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01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 3>with everyone. And with that, I'll give you the final word.

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01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate you letting me on, George. I know

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01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of people putting in to be

1176
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.920
<v Speaker 1>able to do this. I'm grateful for the opportunity and

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01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I just love that you give the people all around

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01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the world the opportunity to voice and have a platform

1179
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to speak on and because a lot of times a

1180
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't find it very comfortable to speak

1181
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:30.520
<v Speaker 1>on it. They're almost you know, closet believers of it all,

1182
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:34.199
<v Speaker 1>and you, well you let people express that, and so

1183
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 1>I congratulate you on that.

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01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate it, and I'm glad we were able

1185
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:42.199
<v Speaker 3>to build a small community. And with that being said,

1186
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Tyler his email will be in the show notes if

1187
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you want to reach out to Tyler. That's one thing

1188
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 3>I do get back from people is you know, I

1189
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:52.239
<v Speaker 3>had lunch with this guy you know, and now we're

1190
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:54.479
<v Speaker 3>best friends. We're talking, we're chatting. So it's cool to

1191
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 3>see that people do connect, whether they're in the same

1192
01:10:58.039 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 3>town or on the other side of the world, just

1193
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.520
<v Speaker 3>have a conversation when they can't have it with people

1194
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 3>in their circle. So again, Tyler, thanks for your time,

1195
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and to all the listeners who continue to support the podcast,

1196
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 3>and to everyone who has come on and share their journey,

1197
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.800
<v Speaker 3>thank you. And again, if you'd like to share your journey,

1198
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:17.960
<v Speaker 3>please send us an email and we'll get back to

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01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.840
<v Speaker 3>you just as soon as we possibly can. Again for Tyler,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm George, God bless you all. Keep your head on

1201
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:26.720
<v Speaker 3>a swivel. And until we meet again, my friends, we

1202
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:27.640
<v Speaker 3>will see.

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01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh the crowd expressing, they're calling out my name. Zach

1204
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 4>is the sinner carrying all this shame.

1205
01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:42.560
<v Speaker 3>A man the sycamore.

1206
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm reaching for the sign Jesus is coming, gonna make

1207
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 4>this hard of mine.

1208
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 5>Give me shelter.

1209
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 2>All my soul.

1210
01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Are shame, Give me a shelter in your grace. I

1211
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 4>feed cross my saved yard.

1212
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 5>My seat.

1213
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Through the coins were stacking, but my heart was cold.

1214
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 4>And stone taxman in the shadows. I was living all alone.

1215
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Then you looked up at me with mercy in your eyes.

1216
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Calm me down the follow Now my spirits lifted high.

1217
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Give me a shelter, all my souls indeed from my

1218
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:45.880
<v Speaker 4>greed and shame, Nor save me free. Give me a

1219
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:52.680
<v Speaker 4>shelter in your grace. I fleed cross my saved, y'd

1220
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 4>hold my seat. Sin was raging, tearing through my day.

1221
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.520
<v Speaker 4>But your love, Lord set my life for blaze. From

1222
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:11.520
<v Speaker 4>the treaty of your table, You've made me home. Jesus,

1223
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:28.000
<v Speaker 4>my redeemer, you restored my son. Give me shelter for

1224
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:33.720
<v Speaker 4>my souls in need for my creed. Shave Lord, and

1225
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 4>reading me shelter in your grace. Something cross my save

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01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 4>your I see old bow, still call it, but I'm

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01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:50.039
<v Speaker 4>safe in your embrace.

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01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:56.520
<v Speaker 6>Zachke has found redoption by your boundless grace. Love your all,

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01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 6>my shelter in your love, stay forever you ask, Jesus,

1230
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 6>leave me all the way.

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01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

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01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Just the facts, ma'amy,
