Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: A we'll get into the tariff thing here in just
Speaker 2: a second. There was a story that I saw earlier
Speaker 2: that lawyers for Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni were in
Speaker 2: court today. For the love my wife was reading through
Speaker 2: a bunch of that stuff over the weekend with I mean,
Speaker 2: she had more fun reading that with like a box
Speaker 2: of popcorn. Really, she said it was.
Speaker 1: I look forward to her just giving me the cliff
Speaker 1: notes because I am with you, like I'm with you
Speaker 1: when you're oversaturated with Taylor Swift. I am oversaturated with
Speaker 1: Blake Lively Justin Baldoni news.
Speaker 2: Here's a I guess there's more protesters in downtown LA.
Speaker 2: There's like sevens there's seven or eight people. There's a
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein angle to this, Oh, Blake Lively Justin Maldoni thing. Apparently,
Speaker 2: Sigrid McAuley, best known for representing Jeffrey Epstein's victims, is
Speaker 2: one of the lawyers that has gotten involved.
Speaker 1: With this that's a name that just to me shouts
Speaker 1: from the rooftops.
Speaker 2: Which one Jeffrey Epstein or Sigrid McCauley.
Speaker 1: Sigrid Sigfredigrid Sigrid McCauley screams like East Coast prep school?
Speaker 1: Maybe people a dungeon, what robes? All sorts of nefarious things,
Speaker 1: skull and skull and bones, society of things. Also, schools
Speaker 1: are closed and emergency crews have been deployed on Santorini,
Speaker 1: the Greek island of Santorini. There's a spike in seismic
Speaker 1: activity and they are concerned about a potentially powerful earthquake there.
Speaker 1: Precautions also ordered on several nearby islands in the GNC
Speaker 1: all very popular summer vacation destinations. They said more than
Speaker 1: two hundred undersea earthquakes have been recorded in the area
Speaker 1: over just the last three days.
Speaker 2: Sigrid mcaulay is a female. Interesting You didn't think Sigrid
Speaker 2: sounded female? No like a female name. No, all right,
Speaker 2: it's time for swamp water. I'm a politician, which means
Speaker 2: I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
Speaker 2: kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2: The other side never quits. So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4: So that now you.
Speaker 2: Drain the squaw, I can imagine what can be and
Speaker 2: be unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have
Speaker 2: always been going.
Speaker 5: They're not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2: Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch
Speaker 2: They're all counternoying the tariff thing. President Trump has said
Speaker 2: that the terrorists would go into effect midnight, DC time,
Speaker 2: one minute after midnight, and as of right now, the
Speaker 2: twenty five percent tariff on goods from Mexico is on
Speaker 2: pause because he and the president of Mexico have agreed
Speaker 2: to some of the conditions, including Mexico sending about ten
Speaker 2: thousand National Guard soldiers to the border to try to
Speaker 2: prevent the crossing a fentanyl and people and things like that.
Speaker 2: But this doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet.
Speaker 2: In terms of what could be a trade war, Senator
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer had said, this is a bad idea.
Speaker 6: We're now in a trade war with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 6: Hi for the American people, it'll now be a war
Speaker 6: between prices and their paychecks. That is the last thing
Speaker 6: we need. So if you think that this is good,
Speaker 6: if someone tries to convince you President Trump or anyone
Speaker 6: else that this is good for the American family, I
Speaker 6: have a bridge in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I can tell you. Was this a bluff all along?
Speaker 1: Was there ever going to be Is there ever going
Speaker 1: to be a shutdown on trade or the twenty five
Speaker 1: percent tariffs on Mexico? Or was this all just for show?
Speaker 1: And the two sides wanted to a peer that they
Speaker 1: were stricter than they were and this was always going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was a bluff because a
Speaker 2: bluff would indicate that he never intended to that. Trump
Speaker 2: never intended to put the terris in place. And I
Speaker 2: think he fully intends to put them in place, because
Speaker 2: this was.
Speaker 1: The reason I bring that up. This was a common
Speaker 1: conversation among investors on Wall Street. Is he bluffing right?
Speaker 1: Because it was going to be a big swing with
Speaker 1: everyone's money, Whether it was a bluff or not.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't think it's a bluff because but
Speaker 2: it is a negotiating tactic, and this is what he does.
Speaker 2: That's exactly this is his game plan. He's done this forever.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who wrote or the deal. I mean
Speaker 2: this is he knows what this is and he knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing. Do I think it's a great idea?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I hate the idea that we've been struggling through inflation
Speaker 2: and all this is going to do is add more
Speaker 2: inflation if in fact they go into effect. But I mean,
Speaker 2: we saw this earlier today in pre market trading. The Dow,
Speaker 2: for example, was down like six hundred points. It has
Speaker 2: rebounded significantly, especially since we got word that Mexico has
Speaker 2: capitulated to a large degree. So the Dow right now
Speaker 2: is only down fourteen points. It's almost break even and
Speaker 2: could potentially in the next couple of hours still do
Speaker 2: a nice positive run to end the day in positive territory. Now,
Speaker 2: around the world, things were not so good. All of
Speaker 2: the European indexes were down about a point. The Asian
Speaker 2: indexes were down almost three points, so or three percentage points,
Speaker 2: I should say. So this does have worldwide repercussions. But again,
Speaker 2: this is what he was planning the whole time. He
Speaker 2: wanted to force Mexico to the table and they came.
Speaker 2: Now he's going to try to force Canada to the
Speaker 2: table and we shall see what happens. The story out
Speaker 2: of DC is that he has a phone call at
Speaker 2: least with with Justin Trudeau coming up at about noon today,
Speaker 2: so maybe they agree. Maybe Justin TRUDEU sticks by his
Speaker 2: Disney pants and says, we're going to take this to
Speaker 2: the We're going to take it to the court, or
Speaker 2: we're going to take it to the field. We're going
Speaker 2: to do trying to think of a sports analogy, it
Speaker 2: ain't working.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we will go to the AI desk Open.
Speaker 1: AI last week released a tool that can shop for
Speaker 1: your groceries, book a restaurant for you. Now they can
Speaker 1: gather information from across the Internet and boil it down
Speaker 1: into concise reports. Cliff notes AI you no longer have
Speaker 1: to deploy your team of girlfriends to find out about.
Speaker 2: That first date. Elon Musk says us aid is a
Speaker 2: ball of worms. It's not an apple with worms in it.
Speaker 2: It's just a ball of worms like Medusa's hair. That's
Speaker 2: the whole thing. So this Agency for International Development is
Speaker 2: being gutted. It is one of the major things that
Speaker 2: Elon Musk has been doing while exerting his control of
Speaker 2: the Department of Government Efficiency, joining us talk more about this,
Speaker 2: Joe Khalil from DC and Joe, let's discuss what kind
Speaker 2: of things Elon Musk can do as the appointed head
Speaker 2: of this brand new government agency.
Speaker 4: So you hit the exact point of contention, because we
Speaker 4: have no idea legally what he can or cannot do.
Speaker 4: Democrats today jumped out on this story there in front
Speaker 4: of the USAID building, saying it is illegal for Elon
Speaker 4: Musk or for anyone up to an including President Trump,
Speaker 4: to just unilaterally shut down of federal government agency like USAID,
Speaker 4: which has thirty billion dollar budget every single year. But
Speaker 4: Elon Musk very clearly wants to shut it down. He's
Speaker 4: not mincing words he talked about with the ball of worms.
Speaker 4: I think he tweeted something like thirty six times over
Speaker 4: the last two or three days about USAID. At one
Speaker 4: point he said it needs to die. So he's making
Speaker 4: crystal clear where he stands on that. What is actually
Speaker 4: happening right now is the Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
Speaker 4: just in the last two hours said that his department,
Speaker 4: the State Department, is actually taking over USAID. It's no
Speaker 4: longer going to be an independent agency. But the Secretary
Speaker 4: of State says he's going to have the last word
Speaker 4: on where money goes. There's a lot of debate about,
Speaker 4: you know, whether USAID is spending too much money, does
Speaker 4: it spend money in places where we shouldn't be Democrats
Speaker 4: today say it's vital to our national security.
Speaker 5: To have USAID in place.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 5: We can imagine this manned up in the courts.
Speaker 1: What is USAID for people who are just learning about it?
Speaker 1: Is this something tied to for extance, for example, our
Speaker 1: assistance to Ukraine the battle putin?
Speaker 2: What is the budget of USAID?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's the largest agency we have in the
Speaker 4: US government that gives money to more than one hundred
Speaker 4: countries all over the world. And the idea in concept
Speaker 4: and theory is that let's say there's a small democracy
Speaker 4: somewhere near China and they're going through government, you know, disarray,
Speaker 4: there's poverty there. US age dollars might then flow to
Speaker 4: that country, with the thought being that if that country
Speaker 4: is actually more stable than it is, you know, in
Speaker 4: poverty and in disarray, that makes the region more stable,
Speaker 4: and you know, if there is potentially a conflict with
Speaker 4: China or Russia or someone else, that that would be
Speaker 4: an asset where the United States might get some benefit
Speaker 4: rather than it may be falling into the hands an
Speaker 4: influence of China and Russia and then working.
Speaker 5: Against the United States.
Speaker 4: And that concept is actually agreed upon by everybody, accept
Speaker 4: Elon Musk apparently. But the debate is, you know, is
Speaker 4: there serious waste? Is there enough money that is going
Speaker 4: to places potentially that maybe you shouldn't be going And
Speaker 4: Senator excuse me, Secretary Rubio today made that argument and said,
Speaker 4: you know, we need to make sure every single dollar
Speaker 4: that is going out through USAID goes to something that
Speaker 4: actually benefits American interests in our foreign policy. And he said,
Speaker 4: right now that isn't the case. That's a very different
Speaker 4: thing what Secretary of Rubio is saying than what Elon
Speaker 4: Musk is saying, which is shut it down.
Speaker 5: It's all corrupt. I think he said it was a tool.
Speaker 4: Of leftist Marxists again on social media.
Speaker 5: So you know where this ends up.
Speaker 4: We're not exactly sure, but that is generally what USAID
Speaker 4: is is meant to do in theory is to you know,
Speaker 4: it gives aid, it responds to natural disasters and poverty
Speaker 4: and dysfunction in other countries, with the hope that we
Speaker 4: get benefit from it in.
Speaker 5: The United States.
Speaker 2: I heard your slip there.
Speaker 5: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: I'm still writing Senator Marco Rubio on my checks. Also,
Speaker 2: what's going on with the Treasury Department. There were reports
Speaker 2: that the Department of Government Efficiency had to be given
Speaker 2: or got access to a federal payment system that for
Speaker 2: the most part, is very locked down. Is that a
Speaker 2: significant thing that people need to worry about?
Speaker 4: You know, it's I guess it's not for me to
Speaker 4: say whether people should worry about it or not, but
Speaker 4: it definitely is something that is new and maybe surprising
Speaker 4: the Treasury Department. You know, if you get a paycheck
Speaker 4: and you work for the federal government, treasury is basically
Speaker 4: you know where the pool of money fits. Your paycheck
Speaker 4: goes from that. So there is a lot of information
Speaker 4: in there that is public, but there's some of it
Speaker 4: that is not. And apparently DOSEE officials have gotten the
Speaker 4: names and salaries and figures and numbers of the Treasury
Speaker 4: Department's base. So all people who are who are paid
Speaker 4: and there was some serious pushback from Treasury officials against that,
Speaker 4: and apparently the same was sort of the case with
Speaker 4: USA I D as well. We know that officials and
Speaker 4: both have been we've heard from our sources, dismissed, largely
Speaker 4: due to the influence.
Speaker 5: Of Elon Musk.
Speaker 4: So, you know, it does appear like if people are
Speaker 4: putting up opposition to this government's demands, that they are
Speaker 4: being dismissed. That doesn't mean that they again won't have
Speaker 4: you know, won't have their day in court to try
Speaker 4: to you know, address that. But yeah, those types of
Speaker 4: things are happening, and two big examples today.
Speaker 1: It seems like this is going to play out and
Speaker 1: a lot of different departments as Elon Musk gets his
Speaker 1: hands into things.
Speaker 2: Joe Khalil, Washington correspondent for News Nation, Thanks for you time.
Speaker 5: Of course, happy to be with you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely good stuff. We at the bottom of the hour
Speaker 2: are going to the next segment talk a little bit
Speaker 2: more about UH, talk more about the the world of AI.
Speaker 2: For a couple of reasons. They have one of them
Speaker 2: chat GPT. I think it is is our open source
Speaker 2: has unveiled a new research tool right it uses AI.
Speaker 1: I mean isn't that Google? I mean, don't we get
Speaker 1: the bullet points? Don't we get the concise thing when
Speaker 1: we type into something in the search box on Google
Speaker 1: that's driven by AI.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that also, the potential for using
Speaker 2: AI for very personal things like actually writing an obituary.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a I write you a birthday
Speaker 1: card in the break, but okay, be a little.
Speaker 2: Late, but right, okay, Gary, are we related?
Speaker 3: I also have a grandma Esther and grandpa Ben and
Speaker 3: they passed away a while ago.
Speaker 2: Oh this is very odd. Sounds like someone not a
Speaker 2: secret family.
Speaker 5: They from Organ?
Speaker 7: Did they live in Organ?
Speaker 2: Well? Pacific Charac Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 5: Did no?
Speaker 3: Anyways, have a good day.
Speaker 1: Look he was a very distinctive person, Abraham Lincoln. He
Speaker 1: had distinct features. Yeah, didn't you had? Don't you have
Speaker 1: roots in the Pacific Northwest? Or is that your wife?
Speaker 1: Just your wife?
Speaker 2: Just her? You don't have any Huh? They're all California
Speaker 2: Central Valley folk. Well that's where they ended up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Grandma Astor's family was like Minnesota or Michigan or something
Speaker 2: like that makes sense from way up there, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: makes sense. And then Grandpa's.
Speaker 1: Ben.
Speaker 2: Where does Ben hail from? Ben could be from Oregon,
Speaker 2: I have to look, he's not. I know that he
Speaker 2: could be from Bend. They've been in California for a
Speaker 2: long time. Or you know what, Germany, that's where they
Speaker 2: came from. In fact, I think Ago the Grandpa Christian
Speaker 2: came from Germany somewhere at the beginning of the twentieth century. Ah,
Speaker 2: that's why we don't know much about Ben.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Well, I was also three when he died, right, you didn't.
Speaker 1: There was never stories about Ben passed down. Remember Old
Speaker 1: Ben used to eat fava beans out of the can. No,
Speaker 1: no interesting, So few things we know about bans.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about a bean and that was the
Speaker 1: first bean. And we'll do your Jeopardy question too, always
Speaker 1: to make his own beer.
Speaker 2: I know he did. See that's a fun fact I
Speaker 2: was looking for about Ben. Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about the potential for you know,
Speaker 2: danger when kids play outside.
Speaker 3: Talk about playing on death trap playground sets. Okay, when
Speaker 3: it was acceptable and fun. My best friend David Angulo
Speaker 3: and I were playing and he forgot he was growing,
Speaker 3: I guess because he didn't deck low enough to avoid
Speaker 3: the steel half dome on a city bridge playground set.
Speaker 3: And as I remember, he got four to six stitches
Speaker 3: on his forehead, which didn't prevent him from serving eight
Speaker 3: years as an army ranger, then twelve years as an
Speaker 3: army helicopter pile.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's why he went into the militaries, because
Speaker 2: he found out how tough he was. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that would never happened today. Could you imagine the lawsuit
Speaker 2: if your kid hit his forehead on the some city ridiculous.
Speaker 1: We will address the naked dress scene at the Grammys.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not the first naked. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of ways to do naked. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: the rule when it comes to it's a rule I
Speaker 1: can't even bring up. You can't go full naked, all right.
Speaker 5: You can.
Speaker 1: Allude intimate it, you can allude to it, you can
Speaker 1: show a little bit here and there, but the full
Speaker 1: naked it's frowned upon. It's like Britney Spears Instagram posts.
Speaker 1: She wants to show you her vagina, but she doesn't.
Speaker 1: She gets right up to the edge there and she
Speaker 1: wants to jump off that cliff, but she stops short
Speaker 1: of it, just short of that cliff. Every single day
Speaker 1: they jumped off the cliff. Last night, Kanye and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: She is pushed. You think so absolutely? You think she
Speaker 2: had a bit of a how was that a prisoner vibe?
Speaker 2: Very much?
Speaker 1: The whole blinking morse code saved me. Think people think
Speaker 1: that's sexy. I think some women think that that whole
Speaker 1: vulnerable save me, I need to be saved thing is
Speaker 1: what men want by that lunatic by all of I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I think they think that's sexy. That look of like
Speaker 1: help me.
Speaker 2: This is why I don't expose you to thinks this
Speaker 2: little kid voices when they talk exactly, it's like tummy,
Speaker 2: you know your Jeopardy question. Yeah, I'd love it. Key,
Speaker 2: Let's watch some video games for two hundred dollars. Let's
Speaker 2: watch some video games.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Super Mario Brothers movie with this Chris in
Speaker 1: the title role had a high score at the box
Speaker 1: office of one point three billion in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Chris, do you want to hint? Yes, I am Groot.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Oh, okay, did I do a
Speaker 2: right hint?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Yes, Groots movie? Yes, it was it was friends with
Speaker 2: the Groot, right, he was he was friends with Boom.
Speaker 2: A week ago, open ai has released a tool, had
Speaker 2: released a tool that could go online to shop for groceries,
Speaker 2: book a restaurant. Now they're offering something that will gather
Speaker 2: information from across the Internet and synthesize it in concise reports. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's something I'm missing here because it seems like that
Speaker 2: is a Google. But I will say this, I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not certain. I'm gonna have to ask my daughter
Speaker 2: about this, because this is what she does. She does research.
Speaker 2: And they're saying open Ai says that deep Research, which
Speaker 2: is the name of their tool, can do complex research
Speaker 2: tasks that it might take you somewhere between thirty minutes
Speaker 2: to thirty days, depending on how specific your research is.
Speaker 1: But I think people who do research for a living
Speaker 1: their delight and the point of their research is to
Speaker 1: find out things that they were able to find out
Speaker 1: the research that they were able to compile, to prove
Speaker 1: a certain point or to get to a certain conclusion.
Speaker 1: It's part of the side, it's part of the creativity
Speaker 1: of research.
Speaker 2: Is you doing your own what leads you?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: What research have you come up with or have you
Speaker 1: stumbled across that leads you your own individual thought to
Speaker 1: think about, well, what about X.
Speaker 2: Y or Z, ask the next question.
Speaker 1: Exactly so, and that's very individual. It's not everybody researches
Speaker 1: the same way.
Speaker 2: Says It sounds as if this is a good way
Speaker 2: to summarize other people's research, and then like, I think
Speaker 2: what you're saying is then develop your next question. What
Speaker 2: is the next question that you would ask on whatever
Speaker 2: line of research you're looking at, it's cliff notes.
Speaker 1: If you are too young to know what cliff notes were.
Speaker 1: When you were given a signed reading in school, sometimes
Speaker 1: it was pretty dry, you know, Sarah Plaine and Tall
Speaker 1: Nanook of the North. These were things involving things you
Speaker 1: didn't care about when you were twelve, and all you
Speaker 1: cared about was pop culture or the boy sitting next
Speaker 1: to you. So you wanted a shortcut. So if you
Speaker 1: had parents that didn't care, they would help you acquire
Speaker 1: these cliff notes, or you could check them out from
Speaker 1: the library, which was just kind of a synopsis of
Speaker 1: the book that would tell you the major plot points
Speaker 1: and the different relationships and things like that. And I
Speaker 1: can compare it to a television show for people this
Speaker 1: day and age, if you're watching a show and you're
Speaker 1: fully into it, you're just watching the show, you pick
Speaker 1: up a lot more than if you're watching the show
Speaker 1: and scrolling through your phone.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: You may not miss the dialogue, but you may miss
Speaker 1: a look between the two characters, right, which adds connotation
Speaker 1: and adds purpose to whatever relationship that is or what
Speaker 1: have you. You miss a lot in missing the nuances.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what you miss when you
Speaker 1: get the cliff notes of anything, or you don't do
Speaker 1: your research for everything, or you don't watch the movie,
Speaker 1: or you.
Speaker 2: You know, well, that's actually that will lead into the
Speaker 2: next segment we're going to talk about about using AI
Speaker 2: for stuff, for more personal stuff like that. I want
Speaker 2: to give you an example of how open Ai, the
Speaker 2: company that put this together, this tool, how they showed
Speaker 2: it off to members of Congress. They said they gathered
Speaker 2: information about Albert Einstein, and he asked Deep Research to
Speaker 2: put together a detailed report about Einstein for a hypothetical
Speaker 2: Senate staff member preparing for a congressional hearing where Einstein
Speaker 2: would be the nominee for Secretary of Energy. And it
Speaker 2: says that in addition to providing information about his background,
Speaker 2: about his personality, it actually generated five questions that a
Speaker 2: senator could ask Einstein to determine if he was going
Speaker 2: to be right for the job. So it sounds like
Speaker 2: it does that other step of maybe it does ask Okay,
Speaker 2: if you're asking it to research something about, let's just
Speaker 2: keep it topical the effectiveness of vaccines, just because of
Speaker 2: the whole RFK thing. If you ask about the effectiveness
Speaker 2: of or a specific vaccine and all the studies that
Speaker 2: have been done about a vaccine polio, for example, could
Speaker 2: you then prompt it to say, what's the next iteration
Speaker 2: of this kind of research with today's technology, today's science,
Speaker 2: et cetera that didn't exist fifty years ago when the
Speaker 2: polio vaccine was relatively new. What should we do now?
Speaker 2: What questions should we ask now to advance the science
Speaker 2: when it comes to vaccine effectiveness or whatever? And it
Speaker 2: sounds like it will come up with those kinds of questions,
Speaker 2: which is good, but it does take away the human
Speaker 2: l of it, which I think is probably the thing
Speaker 2: that needs we need to have we should have or
Speaker 2: at least in conjunction with this, not one or the
Speaker 2: other you're not gonna You're not gonna you're not gonna
Speaker 2: tell deep research research vaccine effectiveness and then do with
Speaker 2: it what you will and kind of you know, come
Speaker 2: up with your own studies. This is also one of
Speaker 2: the things that I think people are not thinking about
Speaker 2: when it comes to AI. They realize how easy it is,
Speaker 2: how how quickly tasks can be done that would take
Speaker 2: you days or weeks. It could take AI very few
Speaker 2: days or weeks. In fact, just a couple of minutes
Speaker 2: in some cases. But that rate short sometimes shorts you.
Speaker 2: I can't that. I can't expand on that. That's perfect.
Speaker 2: It just came up with that. No, you did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you just made quote. You just you just totally yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you just look that up? No, I just CHATPT.
Speaker 2: I just came up with it. Are you cold? Do
Speaker 2: you want my scarf?
Speaker 3: Ter hear?
Speaker 1: How much scar I'm a scarf. Look at how good
Speaker 1: that looks on It's a manly scarf.
Speaker 2: It's not you just said scarf. It looks great.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a picture and then I'll post
Speaker 1: it on our story at Gary and Shannon so that
Speaker 1: everybody can see you in your scarf.
Speaker 2: No, This is exactly. I have not touched the scarf
Speaker 2: since you threw it upon my head. So do you
Speaker 2: want to smile or no? No, you look like you're
Speaker 2: a terrorist.
Speaker 1: Oh I do, well, bat look at you. My eyes
Speaker 1: were closed. Oh well, you're gonna check it out.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk held a live session once last night. You
Speaker 2: do look like you're in the televan said that he
Speaker 2: spoke in detail with about us ai D with the
Speaker 2: President of the United States us A i D. Sorry.
Speaker 2: The Trump administration has already placed a couple of top
Speaker 2: security chiefs at the Agency for International Development on leave
Speaker 2: after they refuse to turn over classified material. This is
Speaker 2: one of those things. It's about a fifty billion dollar
Speaker 2: budget that they're looking at. So salvage crews have also
Speaker 2: removed a large portion of that American Airlines jet from
Speaker 2: the Potomac River near Reaga National Airport after that collision
Speaker 2: last week they killed sixty seven people. Authorities have said
Speaker 2: that this operation to remove the plane from the river
Speaker 2: is going to take several days, and then they'll work
Speaker 2: to remove the Blackhawk helicopter that was also involved in
Speaker 2: the crash. The deadliest US air disaster since two thousand
Speaker 2: and one we're talking about our artificial intelligence and uses thereof.
Speaker 2: And last week we actually had the question of you
Speaker 2: know how it is that you use AI in a
Speaker 2: regular basis. A lot of people said that they use
Speaker 2: it for simple tasks like responding to emails if they're busy,
Speaker 2: or coming up with specific answers to questions while they're
Speaker 2: at work, and you could use it for a lot
Speaker 2: of different things. I told you that I used it
Speaker 2: to try to come up with a good radio script
Speaker 2: for the holiday radio show that we do every year,
Speaker 2: and it was awful. They just came back really bad.
Speaker 2: But people have been saying that they are using AI
Speaker 2: to come up with things like wedding speeches and even obituaries.
Speaker 2: The thing that makes me worry about all of this
Speaker 2: is those are meant to be human moments. Those are
Speaker 2: meant to be something that you have to sit down
Speaker 2: and think about. And you could do the superfluous flowery
Speaker 2: I don't know portions of a or a service, a
Speaker 2: funeral service or obituary or something like that, but then
Speaker 2: you have to clarify it. You have to go back
Speaker 2: and fine tune the thing. Even if chat GPT does
Speaker 2: a bang up job they're going to get things wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can take inspiration from other people or
Speaker 1: other wedding speeches that you've heard things like that, obituaries.
Speaker 1: But the thing what about wedding speeches and obituaries are
Speaker 1: that those are very personal. Those are personal to whoever
Speaker 1: you're doing it for. It's personal to your relationship to
Speaker 1: those people as well. It's just it's I can see
Speaker 1: why it's getting a lot of pushback and fervor that
Speaker 1: it's AI. But we've all taken advice from others. If
Speaker 1: you have married a couple or you have done an obituary.
Speaker 1: I know when I've done both of those things. I
Speaker 1: have reached out to other people who also have relationships
Speaker 1: with a couple getting married or the person that died,
Speaker 1: and said, hey, what do you think what would you
Speaker 1: like included? Or what is one part of his life
Speaker 1: or their life that think you think should be including.
Speaker 1: You know, things like that, well, you ask for feedback
Speaker 1: and input.
Speaker 2: There's one of the Associate professor's communications of Michigan State
Speaker 2: I named David Markowitz said, obviously, generative AI platforms have
Speaker 2: not lived emotion. They don't experience emotion. I mean it
Speaker 2: can read the text of somebody describing a motion, but
Speaker 2: the AI chatbot doesn't know what that is. And he
Speaker 2: compared it to it's analogous to learning about a culture
Speaker 2: without experiencing it. You learn about a past culture, whatever
Speaker 2: a people, but unless you were there, you don't get
Speaker 2: to actually experience. You're just learning some of the basic factors.
Speaker 1: It goes back to Goodwill hunting and Robin Williams's character
Speaker 1: talking to Matt Damon's character and he says, sure, you
Speaker 1: can tell me all about the Sistine Chapel and who
Speaker 1: painted it and the frescoes, but you can't tell me
Speaker 1: what it smells like inside of it.
Speaker 2: Well, Katie Hoffman is a thirty four year old.
Speaker 1: Market That was another nineteen nineties movie reference, as.
Speaker 2: He nailed it, But she's used it a couple of times.
Speaker 2: She used it to draft a text to a friend
Speaker 2: to tell her that she wouldn't be going to the wedding.
Speaker 2: There was another one she provided a diplomatic response to
Speaker 2: a friend who had last minute backed out of her
Speaker 2: bachelorette party and wanted her money back. Now, those types
Speaker 2: of questions and potential emotional personal pitfalls that you go into,
Speaker 2: you have to jump into that. Yeah, that's how you
Speaker 2: learn as a human being to deal with that awkwardness.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when I invited you to my
Speaker 1: wedding and you did not RSVP nor really talk about
Speaker 1: it at all. You just weren't there. And did I
Speaker 1: ask AI to talk to you about it? No, because
Speaker 1: that's that's stupid. Instead, I just hang it over your
Speaker 1: head for thirteen years and bring it up at every
Speaker 1: chance I get.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that, that's what I mean, dealing with those
Speaker 7: very personal things. Yeah see, And don't you feel better
Speaker 7: for it? You didn't rely on some robot to tell
Speaker 7: me off.
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Speaker 1: and Shannon.
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