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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Monday, February third, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>there was.

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<v Speaker 2>A we'll get into the tariff thing here in just

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<v Speaker 2>a second. There was a story that I saw earlier

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<v Speaker 2>that lawyers for Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni were in

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<v Speaker 2>court today. For the love my wife was reading through

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of that stuff over the weekend with I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she had more fun reading that with like a box

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<v Speaker 2>of popcorn. Really, she said it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to her just giving me the cliff

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<v Speaker 1>notes because I am with you, like I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're oversaturated with Taylor Swift. I am oversaturated with

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Lively Justin Baldoni news.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a I guess there's more protesters in downtown LA.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like sevens there's seven or eight people. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein angle to this, Oh, Blake Lively Justin Maldoni thing. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>Sigrid McAuley, best known for representing Jeffrey Epstein's victims, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the lawyers that has gotten involved.

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<v Speaker 1>With this that's a name that just to me shouts

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<v Speaker 1>from the rooftops.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one Jeffrey Epstein or Sigrid McCauley.

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<v Speaker 1>Sigrid Sigfredigrid Sigrid McCauley screams like East Coast prep school?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe people a dungeon, what robes? All sorts of nefarious things,

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<v Speaker 1>skull and skull and bones, society of things. Also, schools

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<v Speaker 1>are closed and emergency crews have been deployed on Santorini,

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek island of Santorini. There's a spike in seismic

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<v Speaker 1>activity and they are concerned about a potentially powerful earthquake there.

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<v Speaker 1>Precautions also ordered on several nearby islands in the GNC

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<v Speaker 1>all very popular summer vacation destinations. They said more than

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred undersea earthquakes have been recorded in the area

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<v Speaker 1>over just the last three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Sigrid mcaulay is a female. Interesting You didn't think Sigrid

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<v Speaker 2>sounded female? No like a female name. No, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for swamp water. I'm a politician, which means

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the real problem is that our leaders are done.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side never quits. So what I'm not going anywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>So that now you.

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<v Speaker 2>Drain the squaw, I can imagine what can be and

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<v Speaker 2>be unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have

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<v Speaker 2>always been going.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch

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<v Speaker 2>They're all counternoying the tariff thing. President Trump has said

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<v Speaker 2>that the terrorists would go into effect midnight, DC time,

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<v Speaker 2>one minute after midnight, and as of right now, the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent tariff on goods from Mexico is on

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<v Speaker 2>pause because he and the president of Mexico have agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the conditions, including Mexico sending about ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand National Guard soldiers to the border to try to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent the crossing a fentanyl and people and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of what could be a trade war, Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer had said, this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 6>We're now in a trade war with Mexico and Canada.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi for the American people, it'll now be a war

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<v Speaker 6>between prices and their paychecks. That is the last thing

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<v Speaker 6>we need. So if you think that this is good,

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<v Speaker 6>if someone tries to convince you President Trump or anyone

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<v Speaker 6>else that this is good for the American family, I

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<v Speaker 6>have a bridge in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you. Was this a bluff all along?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there ever going to be Is there ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a shutdown on trade or the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent tariffs on Mexico? Or was this all just for show?

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<v Speaker 1>And the two sides wanted to a peer that they

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<v Speaker 1>were stricter than they were and this was always going

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it was a bluff because a

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<v Speaker 2>bluff would indicate that he never intended to that. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>never intended to put the terris in place. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think he fully intends to put them in place, because

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<v Speaker 2>this was.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I bring that up. This was a common

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<v Speaker 1>conversation among investors on Wall Street. Is he bluffing right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was going to be a big swing with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's money, Whether it was a bluff or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I don't think it's a bluff because but

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<v Speaker 2>it is a negotiating tactic, and this is what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly this is his game plan. He's done this forever.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy who wrote or the deal. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this is he knows what this is and he knows

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<v Speaker 2>what he's doing. Do I think it's a great idea?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the idea that we've been struggling through inflation

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<v Speaker 2>and all this is going to do is add more

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<v Speaker 2>inflation if in fact they go into effect. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw this earlier today in pre market trading. The Dow,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, was down like six hundred points. It has

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<v Speaker 2>rebounded significantly, especially since we got word that Mexico has

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<v Speaker 2>capitulated to a large degree. So the Dow right now

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<v Speaker 2>is only down fourteen points. It's almost break even and

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<v Speaker 2>could potentially in the next couple of hours still do

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<v Speaker 2>a nice positive run to end the day in positive territory. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>around the world, things were not so good. All of

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<v Speaker 2>the European indexes were down about a point. The Asian

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<v Speaker 2>indexes were down almost three points, so or three percentage points,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. So this does have worldwide repercussions. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what he was planning the whole time. He

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to force Mexico to the table and they came.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's going to try to force Canada to the

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<v Speaker 2>table and we shall see what happens. The story out

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<v Speaker 2>of DC is that he has a phone call at

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<v Speaker 2>least with with Justin Trudeau coming up at about noon today,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe they agree. Maybe Justin TRUDEU sticks by his

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<v Speaker 2>Disney pants and says, we're going to take this to

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<v Speaker 2>the We're going to take it to the court, or

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take it to the field. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do trying to think of a sports analogy, it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't working.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we will go to the AI desk Open.

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<v Speaker 1>AI last week released a tool that can shop for

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<v Speaker 1>your groceries, book a restaurant for you. Now they can

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<v Speaker 1>gather information from across the Internet and boil it down

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<v Speaker 1>into concise reports. Cliff notes AI you no longer have

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<v Speaker 1>to deploy your team of girlfriends to find out about.

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<v Speaker 2>That first date. Elon Musk says us aid is a

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<v Speaker 2>ball of worms. It's not an apple with worms in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a ball of worms like Medusa's hair. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. So this Agency for International Development is

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<v Speaker 2>being gutted. It is one of the major things that

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk has been doing while exerting his control of

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Government Efficiency, joining us talk more about this,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Khalil from DC and Joe, let's discuss what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things Elon Musk can do as the appointed head

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<v Speaker 2>of this brand new government agency.

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<v Speaker 4>So you hit the exact point of contention, because we

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<v Speaker 4>have no idea legally what he can or cannot do.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats today jumped out on this story there in front

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<v Speaker 4>of the USAID building, saying it is illegal for Elon

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<v Speaker 4>Musk or for anyone up to an including President Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>to just unilaterally shut down of federal government agency like USAID,

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<v Speaker 4>which has thirty billion dollar budget every single year. But

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk very clearly wants to shut it down. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not mincing words he talked about with the ball of worms.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he tweeted something like thirty six times over

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<v Speaker 4>the last two or three days about USAID. At one

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<v Speaker 4>point he said it needs to die. So he's making

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<v Speaker 4>crystal clear where he stands on that. What is actually

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<v Speaker 4>happening right now is the Secretary of State Marco Rubio,

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<v Speaker 4>just in the last two hours said that his department,

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<v Speaker 4>the State Department, is actually taking over USAID. It's no

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<v Speaker 4>longer going to be an independent agency. But the Secretary

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<v Speaker 4>of State says he's going to have the last word

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<v Speaker 4>on where money goes. There's a lot of debate about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, whether USAID is spending too much money, does

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<v Speaker 4>it spend money in places where we shouldn't be Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>today say it's vital to our national security.

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<v Speaker 5>To have USAID in place.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of back and forth.

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<v Speaker 5>We can imagine this manned up in the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>What is USAID for people who are just learning about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something tied to for extance, for example, our

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<v Speaker 1>assistance to Ukraine the battle putin?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the budget of USAID?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's the largest agency we have in the

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<v Speaker 4>US government that gives money to more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>countries all over the world. And the idea in concept

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<v Speaker 4>and theory is that let's say there's a small democracy

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<v Speaker 4>there's poverty there. US age dollars might then flow to

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<v Speaker 4>that country, with the thought being that if that country

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<v Speaker 4>is actually more stable than it is, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>poverty and in disarray, that makes the region more stable,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, if there is potentially a conflict with

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<v Speaker 4>an asset where the United States might get some benefit

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<v Speaker 4>rather than it may be falling into the hands an

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<v Speaker 4>influence of China and Russia and then working.

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<v Speaker 5>Against the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>And that concept is actually agreed upon by everybody, accept

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk apparently. But the debate is, you know, is

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<v Speaker 4>there serious waste? Is there enough money that is going

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<v Speaker 4>to places potentially that maybe you shouldn't be going And

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<v Speaker 4>Senator excuse me, Secretary Rubio today made that argument and said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we need to make sure every single dollar

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<v Speaker 4>that is going out through USAID goes to something that

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<v Speaker 4>actually benefits American interests in our foreign policy. And he said,

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<v Speaker 4>right now that isn't the case. That's a very different

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<v Speaker 4>thing what Secretary of Rubio is saying than what Elon

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<v Speaker 4>Musk is saying, which is shut it down.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all corrupt. I think he said it was a tool.

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<v Speaker 4>Of leftist Marxists again on social media.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know where this ends up.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not exactly sure, but that is generally what USAID

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<v Speaker 4>is is meant to do in theory is to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it gives aid, it responds to natural disasters and poverty

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<v Speaker 4>and dysfunction in other countries, with the hope that we

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<v Speaker 4>get benefit from it in.

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<v Speaker 5>The United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard your slip there.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still writing Senator Marco Rubio on my checks. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with the Treasury Department. There were reports

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<v Speaker 2>that the Department of Government Efficiency had to be given

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<v Speaker 2>or got access to a federal payment system that for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, is very locked down. Is that a

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<v Speaker 2>significant thing that people need to worry about?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's I guess it's not for me to

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<v Speaker 4>say whether people should worry about it or not, but

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<v Speaker 4>it definitely is something that is new and maybe surprising

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<v Speaker 4>the Treasury Department. You know, if you get a paycheck

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<v Speaker 4>and you work for the federal government, treasury is basically

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<v Speaker 4>you know where the pool of money fits. Your paycheck

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<v Speaker 4>goes from that. So there is a lot of information

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<v Speaker 4>in there that is public, but there's some of it

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<v Speaker 4>that is not. And apparently DOSEE officials have gotten the

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<v Speaker 4>names and salaries and figures and numbers of the Treasury

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, it does appear like if people are

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, address that. But yeah, those types of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Khalil, Washington correspondent for News Nation, Thanks for you time.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, happy to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely good stuff. We at the bottom of the hour

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<v Speaker 2>more about UH, talk more about the the world of AI.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean isn't that Google? I mean, don't we get

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll talk about that also, the potential for using

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<v Speaker 2>AI for very personal things like actually writing an obituary.

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<v Speaker 2>Late, but right, okay, Gary, are we related?

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<v Speaker 3>I also have a grandma Esther and grandpa Ben and

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is very odd. Sounds like someone not a

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<v Speaker 5>They from Organ?

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<v Speaker 7>Did they live in Organ?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Pacific Charac Abraham Lincoln?

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<v Speaker 5>Did no?

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<v Speaker 1>Look he was a very distinctive person, Abraham Lincoln. He

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<v Speaker 1>had distinct features. Yeah, didn't you had? Don't you have

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<v Speaker 1>roots in the Pacific Northwest? Or is that your wife?

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<v Speaker 1>Just your wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Just her? You don't have any Huh? They're all California

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<v Speaker 2>Central Valley folk. Well that's where they ended up. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Grandma Astor's family was like Minnesota or Michigan or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that makes sense from way up there, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And then Grandpa's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Where does Ben hail from? Ben could be from Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Or you know what, Germany, that's where they

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we don't know much about Ben.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was also three when he died, right, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There was never stories about Ben passed down. Remember Old

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<v Speaker 1>Ben used to eat fava beans out of the can. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he did. See that's a fun fact I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for about Ben. Okay, well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking earlier about the potential for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about playing on death trap playground sets. Okay, when

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<v Speaker 3>it was acceptable and fun. My best friend David Angulo

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<v Speaker 3>and I were playing and he forgot he was growing,

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<v Speaker 3>And as I remember, he got four to six stitches

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<v Speaker 3>on his forehead, which didn't prevent him from serving eight

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe that's why he went into the militaries, because

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<v Speaker 2>he found out how tough he was. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>that would never happened today. Could you imagine the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>if your kid hit his forehead on the some city ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>We will address the naked dress scene at the Grammys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not the first naked. There's been a

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<v Speaker 1>can't even bring up. You can't go full naked, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Allude intimate it, you can allude to it, you can

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to show you her vagina, but she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets right up to the edge there and she

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<v Speaker 1>of it, just short of that cliff. Every single day

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<v Speaker 1>they jumped off the cliff. Last night, Kanye and his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>She is pushed. You think so absolutely? You think she

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<v Speaker 2>had a bit of a how was that a prisoner vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>Very much?

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<v Speaker 1>The whole blinking morse code saved me. Think people think

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<v Speaker 1>that's sexy. I think some women think that that whole

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I don't expose you to thinks this

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<v Speaker 2>little kid voices when they talk exactly, it's like tummy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know your Jeopardy question. Yeah, I'd love it. Key,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's watch some video games for two hundred dollars. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>watch some video games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The Super Mario Brothers movie with this Chris in

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<v Speaker 1>the title role had a high score at the box

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<v Speaker 1>office of one point three billion in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, do you want to hint? Yes, I am Groot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. Oh, okay, did I do a

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Groots movie? Yes, it was it was friends with

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<v Speaker 2>the Groot, right, he was he was friends with Boom.

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<v Speaker 2>A week ago, open ai has released a tool, had

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<v Speaker 2>released a tool that could go online to shop for groceries,

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<v Speaker 2>book a restaurant. Now they're offering something that will gather

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<v Speaker 2>information from across the Internet and synthesize it in concise reports. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something I'm missing here because it seems like that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not certain. I'm gonna have to ask my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>about this, because this is what she does. She does research.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're saying open Ai says that deep Research, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the name of their tool, can do complex research

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<v Speaker 2>tasks that it might take you somewhere between thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty days, depending on how specific your research is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think people who do research for a living

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<v Speaker 1>their delight and the point of their research is to

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<v Speaker 1>the research that they were able to compile, to prove

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of the side, it's part of the creativity

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<v Speaker 2>Is you doing your own what leads you?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>What research have you come up with or have you

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled across that leads you your own individual thought to

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly so, and that's very individual. It's not everybody researches

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<v Speaker 2>Says It sounds as if this is a good way

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<v Speaker 2>to summarize other people's research, and then like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>line of research you're looking at, it's cliff notes.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are too young to know what cliff notes were.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were given a signed reading in school, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>Nanook of the North. These were things involving things you

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<v Speaker 1>had parents that didn't care, they would help you acquire

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<v Speaker 1>these cliff notes, or you could check them out from

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<v Speaker 1>and the different relationships and things like that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>day and age, if you're watching a show and you're

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<v Speaker 1>fully into it, you're just watching the show, you pick

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<v Speaker 1>and scrolling through your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not miss the dialogue, but you may miss

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<v Speaker 1>a look between the two characters, right, which adds connotation

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<v Speaker 1>and adds purpose to whatever relationship that is or what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. You miss a lot in missing the nuances.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's what you miss when you

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<v Speaker 1>get the cliff notes of anything, or you don't do

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<v Speaker 1>your research for everything, or you don't watch the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>or you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, that's actually that will lead into the

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<v Speaker 2>next segment we're going to talk about about using AI

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<v Speaker 2>for stuff, for more personal stuff like that. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to give you an example of how open Ai, the

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<v Speaker 2>company that put this together, this tool, how they showed

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<v Speaker 2>it off to members of Congress. They said they gathered

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<v Speaker 2>information about Albert Einstein, and he asked Deep Research to

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<v Speaker 2>Senate staff member preparing for a congressional hearing where Einstein

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<v Speaker 2>says that in addition to providing information about his background,

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<v Speaker 2>about his personality, it actually generated five questions that a

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<v Speaker 2>senator could ask Einstein to determine if he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be right for the job. So it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>it does that other step of maybe it does ask Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're asking it to research something about, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>keep it topical the effectiveness of vaccines, just because of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole RFK thing. If you ask about the effectiveness

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<v Speaker 2>of or a specific vaccine and all the studies that

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<v Speaker 2>have been done about a vaccine polio, for example, could

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<v Speaker 2>you then prompt it to say, what's the next iteration

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<v Speaker 2>of this kind of research with today's technology, today's science,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera that didn't exist fifty years ago when the

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<v Speaker 2>polio vaccine was relatively new. What should we do now?

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<v Speaker 2>What questions should we ask now to advance the science

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to vaccine effectiveness or whatever? And it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like it will come up with those kinds of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>which is good, but it does take away the human

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<v Speaker 2>l of it, which I think is probably the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that needs we need to have we should have or

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<v Speaker 2>at least in conjunction with this, not one or the

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<v Speaker 2>other you're not gonna You're not gonna you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell deep research research vaccine effectiveness and then do with

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<v Speaker 2>it what you will and kind of you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>up with your own studies. This is also one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I think people are not thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to AI. They realize how easy it is,

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<v Speaker 2>how how quickly tasks can be done that would take

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<v Speaker 2>you days or weeks. It could take AI very few

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<v Speaker 2>days or weeks. In fact, just a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases. But that rate short sometimes shorts you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't that. I can't expand on that. That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>you just made quote. You just you just totally yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just look that up? No, I just CHATPT.

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<v Speaker 2>I just came up with it. Are you cold? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want my scarf?

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<v Speaker 3>Ter hear?

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<v Speaker 1>How much scar I'm a scarf. Look at how good

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<v Speaker 1>that looks on It's a manly scarf.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you just said scarf. It looks great.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a picture and then I'll post

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<v Speaker 1>it on our story at Gary and Shannon so that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can see you in your scarf.

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<v Speaker 2>No, This is exactly. I have not touched the scarf

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<v Speaker 2>since you threw it upon my head. So do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to smile or no? No, you look like you're

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<v Speaker 2>a terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I do, well, bat look at you. My eyes

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<v Speaker 1>were closed. Oh well, you're gonna check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk held a live session once last night. You

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<v Speaker 2>President of the United States us A i D. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration has already placed a couple of top

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<v Speaker 2>security chiefs at the Agency for International Development on leave

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<v Speaker 2>after they refuse to turn over classified material. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things. It's about a fifty billion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>budget that they're looking at. So salvage crews have also

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<v Speaker 2>removed a large portion of that American Airlines jet from

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<v Speaker 2>the Potomac River near Reaga National Airport after that collision

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<v Speaker 2>last week they killed sixty seven people. Authorities have said

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<v Speaker 2>that this operation to remove the plane from the river

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<v Speaker 2>is going to take several days, and then they'll work

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<v Speaker 2>to remove the Blackhawk helicopter that was also involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the crash. The deadliest US air disaster since two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and one we're talking about our artificial intelligence and uses thereof.

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<v Speaker 2>And last week we actually had the question of you

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<v Speaker 2>know how it is that you use AI in a

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<v Speaker 2>regular basis. A lot of people said that they use

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<v Speaker 2>it for simple tasks like responding to emails if they're busy,

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<v Speaker 2>or coming up with specific answers to questions while they're

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<v Speaker 2>at work, and you could use it for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different things. I told you that I used it

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<v Speaker 2>to try to come up with a good radio script

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<v Speaker 2>for the holiday radio show that we do every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was awful. They just came back really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But people have been saying that they are using AI

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with things like wedding speeches and even obituaries.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that makes me worry about all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is those are meant to be human moments. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be something that you have to sit down

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<v Speaker 2>and think about. And you could do the superfluous flowery

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know portions of a or a service, a

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<v Speaker 2>funeral service or obituary or something like that, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you have to clarify it. You have to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and fine tune the thing. Even if chat GPT does

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<v Speaker 2>a bang up job they're going to get things wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can take inspiration from other people or

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<v Speaker 1>other wedding speeches that you've heard things like that, obituaries.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing what about wedding speeches and obituaries are

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<v Speaker 1>that those are very personal. Those are personal to whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it for. It's personal to your relationship to

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<v Speaker 1>those people as well. It's just it's I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why it's getting a lot of pushback and fervor that

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<v Speaker 1>it's AI. But we've all taken advice from others. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have married a couple or you have done an obituary.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I've done both of those things. I

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<v Speaker 1>have reached out to other people who also have relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple getting married or the person that died,

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, what do you think what would you

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<v Speaker 1>like included? Or what is one part of his life

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<v Speaker 1>or their life that think you think should be including.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things like that, well, you ask for feedback

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<v Speaker 1>and input.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one of the Associate professor's communications of Michigan State

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<v Speaker 2>I named David Markowitz said, obviously, generative AI platforms have

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<v Speaker 2>not lived emotion. They don't experience emotion. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>can read the text of somebody describing a motion, but

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<v Speaker 2>the AI chatbot doesn't know what that is. And he

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<v Speaker 2>compared it to it's analogous to learning about a culture

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<v Speaker 2>without experiencing it. You learn about a past culture, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>a people, but unless you were there, you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>to actually experience. You're just learning some of the basic factors.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes back to Goodwill hunting and Robin Williams's character

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Matt Damon's character and he says, sure, you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell me all about the Sistine Chapel and who

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<v Speaker 1>painted it and the frescoes, but you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what it smells like inside of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Katie Hoffman is a thirty four year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Market That was another nineteen nineties movie reference, as.

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<v Speaker 2>He nailed it, But she's used it a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>She used it to draft a text to a friend

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her that she wouldn't be going to the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>There was another one she provided a diplomatic response to

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who had last minute backed out of her

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<v Speaker 2>bachelorette party and wanted her money back. Now, those types

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<v Speaker 2>of questions and potential emotional personal pitfalls that you go into,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to jump into that. Yeah, that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>learn as a human being to deal with that awkwardness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like when I invited you to my

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<v Speaker 1>wedding and you did not RSVP nor really talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it at all. You just weren't there. And did I

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<v Speaker 1>ask AI to talk to you about it? No, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's stupid. Instead, I just hang it over your

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<v Speaker 1>head for thirteen years and bring it up at every

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<v Speaker 1>chance I get.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like that, that's what I mean, dealing with those

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<v Speaker 7>very personal things. Yeah see, And don't you feel better

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<v Speaker 7>for it? You didn't rely on some robot to tell

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<v Speaker 7>me off.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk trending when we come back to Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You

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