WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. They have eight different shows on all sorts 12 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:36.119 of exciting topics such as bigfoot, cryptids, UFOs, aliens, and 13 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.479 much more. I even have my own show called Weird Encounters, 14 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.439 where I talk about all things strange. This is more 15 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.280 than just a podcast network. It's a community that allows 16 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.759 me to meet so many amazing people who share their 17 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:51.520 stories and experiences with strange. If you're interested in hearing 18 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:53.880 more of these stories and learning more about the paranormal 19 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.679 and encryptids, make sure you check out the Untold Radio 20 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.640 Network for all kinds of exciting shows. It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.359 on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed 25 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:15.680 your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over the tree. 26 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:20.319 I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm 27 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.840 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 28 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.840 the fence, and name was dead once you hit the ground. 29 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:26.840 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my 30 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:46.959 dog coming over the fence. Are you reporting we got 31 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:57.640 some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you 32 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.560 see what it was? It was enough out here looking 33 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.359 them do the one going now? And I don't need anything. 34 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:10.560 I don't want to go outside. Just fight. Hello, hit 35 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:12.800 the fuddy out here? What quin I'm out there? I 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.319 thought of a bit just about taking foot nine. I 37 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.080 don't know. Easy an out there? Yeah, I'm walking right, heady, all. 38 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:19.400 Right, folks. 39 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.840 I want to welcome our guest to the show. It 40 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.199 is Mike from Florida. Welcome to the show. 41 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:23.400 Man. 42 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:25.120 Hey, how you doing brother? 43 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.319 I am good. This has been a long time coming. 44 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.199 We got to hang out doing the Okalla Bigfoot conference 45 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.719 down in Florida. We are definitely going to get into 46 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:35.599 some of your experiences in Florida. I always love it 47 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.039 when I have people on the show and they say 48 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.120 there's no way that there's any bigfoot in Florida. If 49 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:43.800 you think that going into this episode, I guarantee you 50 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.560 when you finish, you're not gonna think that anymore. So 51 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:48.759 welcome to the show, man. I am so glad to 52 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.800 have you here. Let's start where I start with everybody 53 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.800 that comes on the show, What in the world got 54 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.800 you interested in bigfoot sasquatch skunk ape. 55 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.360 To begin with, thank you very much for having me 56 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.919 part of the Mid Florida big Foot Research Group. I'll 57 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.360 get into that little story on how that happened. That 58 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.639 kind of came after I had already got into it 59 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.360 a little bit myself, and I'll tell you before this, 60 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.800 I'm not gonna say I was a disbeliever, but I 61 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.479 had no reason to believe it one hundred percent up 62 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.840 until my first encounter. So it was probably about eight 63 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:21.360 to nine years ago, on my way to go fishing 64 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.840 with my best friend Jason, and we were going down 65 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.919 to Holla Sas of Florida. It's a very popular area 66 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:30.039 for scalloping and fishing down there. I have another ramp 67 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.599 that I use that takes you there's a really really 68 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.479 public one, and there's one I use which takes you 69 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.240 back down this road called Old Mason Creek, and it 70 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.199 winds back in the middle of nowhere. About three miles 71 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.759 down that road you go through a real thick area 72 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.439 with a bunch of winding series of best curves like 73 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.560 you can look from this curve and see down. Took 74 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.479 the fourth curve as I'm coming around my buddy, he 75 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.159 was looking at the window. I was looking for deer. 76 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.159 This time of morning. It was about six thirty in 77 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:56.639 the morning, but at that time of year, the sun 78 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:58.960 was just starting to peek over the top of the trees. 79 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.560 Coming down, I got about to that series of curves 80 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.080 and to the left side of the road. It was 81 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.520 up ahead, probably a good seventy five eighty yards about 82 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.159 a third curve up. I saw a big look like 83 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.159 a dude coming up from the side of the road. 84 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.599 As I'm coming up close to the curve, he's coming 85 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:16.560 up and he's already now, he's already onto the road, 86 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.240 and he took another step and was like in the 87 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:21.959 middle of the road, and right when he stepped in 88 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.680 the middle of the road. The light from the trees 89 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:26.240 coming to the sun was coming up from behind the 90 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:28.480 trees behind it. It did it like a silhouette. It 91 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.639 was the craziest thing. He went from dark shadow guy 92 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:37.160 to cinnamon like he turned cinnamon, and as he walked 93 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:38.759 more into it, it couldn't really see him. It lit 94 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:40.040 him up for a minute and then he was gone, 95 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.040 and then it was just like the hair follicles from 96 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.680 behind it. The picture saw a shadow walking in front 97 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.480 of light and that hair like moving. It was quick, 98 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.600 but I'll never forget that silhouette of the hair he 99 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:53.199 stepped in. I came around the curve and as I 100 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:54.879 come back, they go back to where I could see 101 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.279 where he was at. He was already gone. I stopped 102 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.800 jumped out. My friend's like, what's going on. I'm like, 103 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.240 you didn't see that? It's like see what I was like, 104 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:05.839 you didn't see that thing that just walked in front 105 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.199 of us. He's like, what thing? I was like, dude, 106 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.720 I don't know what that was. But it was like cinnamon, 107 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.399 reddish brown colored with hair, and it was every bit 108 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.040 of seven foot tall. He's like, what do you think 109 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.439 you saw? Bigfoot, and I'm like, I don't know what 110 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:20.240 the heck I just saw, but it just walked right 111 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.040 in front of my truck. How did you miss it? 112 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:23.759 And we're not ready to get an argument over it. 113 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:25.720 He's like making fun of me and everything. And I 114 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:29.319 didn't realize at that moment how much that affected me. 115 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.639 And that moment literally changed my entire life because I 116 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.560 went home. At first, I walked around and looked. I 117 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:36.920 didn't see any footprints. I didn't see anything. I wasn't 118 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.920 really knowing what I was looking for back then. I 119 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.240 was just in shock still what I just saw. My 120 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.040 brain didn't want to process it. So we went did 121 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.160 our fishing trip, and like the whole day, I was 122 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.199 thinking about it, and I went home. From that moment forward, 123 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.439 the thing I could go into and find out about bigfoot, 124 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.959 I was doing it. And then I started going out. 125 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.639 I wanted to prove to myself that I know what 126 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.120 I saw, and I wasn't lose in my mind. I'm 127 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.839 not a big hunter, but I'm very familiar with Florida. 128 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.240 I grew up here forced generation in our woods or 129 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.600 different type of woods. Are swamps are a little different. 130 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.480 I know you've been out of them before. I've grown 131 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.399 up in it, and I thought I had seen everything here. 132 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:16.240 There was a c That's what really got me. You're 133 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:17.439 leaping forward after that. 134 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.560 It definitely does one of two things without fail. When 135 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.959 people have an experience like that, especially a class a 136 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.279 encounter where you actually get to see one of these things, 137 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.160 it sends people in one of two directions. You either 138 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.160 run screaming for the door, saying screw that, I don't 139 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.399 want any part of that anymore. Once was enough, or 140 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:39.399 you go down the rabbit hole. I've known you well 141 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.000 enough to know that you definitely went down the rabbit 142 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.439 hole full board. Let's go back to the siding for 143 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.160 a second before we move into some of your other 144 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.759 research and into your experiences when that happened, when this 145 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.240 thing stepped across the road, was it immediate for you 146 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:54.439 that you knew what you were looking at? Did it 147 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.920 take you a second to process? And how long after 148 00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:59.879 the encounter, because I know this was the big thing 149 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:03.199 for me when I had my experiences last year. After 150 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.800 that happened, I'm still frankly processing what I saw, and 151 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:09.480 things will come to me in the middle of the 152 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.639 day when I'm working on a podcast or something. I'll think, 153 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.360 oh shit, I remember seeing this, and I didn't even 154 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.600 remember it at the time when I had my encounter. 155 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.600 How long did it take you to process. 156 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.319 In the moment and after what you really saw, after 157 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.560 you obviously got past the point of your friend making 158 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.079 fun of you. Did that affect you as well in 159 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.759 the moment to have someone was a friend of yours 160 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:37.959 immediately respond that way when you had the experience, Wou'd say. 161 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.040 In that moment, it definitely affected me for a while 162 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.040 afterwards too, because I still have a friend of mine 163 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.560 to this day that even though he knows that I've 164 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.120 gone out and found very good evidence of things, we 165 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:53.160 don't put anything out that's fessionable for a reason. Even 166 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:54.839 though all this is there and he's seen all the 167 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.240 stuff we've done in our popularity grow, he still thinks 168 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.800 I'm a lunatic. Well, we're like I've done the guy 169 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.360 thirty year. We literally has messed our friendship up a 170 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:04.800 little bit over it. That is where it is. He 171 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:06.920 sees his things his way and I see him my way. 172 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.199 He's one of those that he only believes what he 173 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.759 sees in front of him, and that's fine. He's entitled 174 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.920 to his opinion. He's one of those people that he 175 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.439 can't change unless Bigfoot walks up and grabs him out 176 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.120 of his tent. When it first happened, it definitely took 177 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:20.720 me a while to process. I didn't know what the 178 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.800 hell I saw because at first my brain sets look 179 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:25.319 at that guy walking up from the side of the 180 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.120 road because he was solid shadow. The sun is just peeking, 181 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.759 so it's still pretty dark. It had a perfect dark 182 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.919 silhouette with him walking up, and as soon as he 183 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:34.720 got up to the road, he hit that spot and 184 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.480 it just was like bam. My whole brain did a hold. 185 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.799 What how does something that big disappear that quick? I 186 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.240 couldn't see his face if you pictured his son's back here, 187 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.000 so all I got was his arm when he came 188 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.960 out hit the light and it turned him that centiment color. 189 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.840 But when I hit the shadow, it was like silhouette again, 190 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.200 so I don't have a lot of detail. 191 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.600 So you definitely went down the rabbit hole. You started 192 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:01.480 going into the documentaries doing the armchair research stuff. When 193 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.559 did you make the determination that I want to be 194 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.360 the boots on the ground. I want to go out 195 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.000 and look for evidence of these things. Talk a little 196 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.919 bit about that process and obviously go into your encounters 197 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.159 once you started going out and doing your research. 198 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:15.159 I grew up in an area in what's the Chapel 199 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.879 Pasco County, Florida, a rural area back there, and there's 200 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.879 a game preserved back there that is a ninety eight 201 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.639 hundred acres basically ten thousand acres, and there's a creek 202 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.399 that starts back there, and that creek runs right through 203 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.080 the middle of it down through Hillsborough County. It runs 204 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:33.200 into Tampa, but that creek directly runs into Hillsboro River, 205 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.080 which goes over to Polk County and the Green Swamp 206 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.360 and that whole area. That's real big hot spot, which 207 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.720 I didn't know any of this back then. As a kid, 208 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:43.519 I used to go out and that the well field, 209 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.320 just like fish in the cree. I mean, a couple 210 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:46.759 buddies would always go out there and go hiking and 211 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.519 running around. Of being kids teenagers out there running around 212 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.200 in the woods and stuff. I always got creeped out 213 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.240 when I was buy myself out there. After that incident happened, 214 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.519 I'm like, that is the perfect place for one of 215 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.200 these things to be. If something's gonna be out there. 216 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.720 That's where one could be because the preserve is almost 217 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.120 ten thousand acres, which in Florida, that's a big area 218 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.759 the way Florida's building up, so happens to be that 219 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.639 dis preserved is dead smack in the middle of the corridor, 220 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.840 which I didn't know back then either. The first time 221 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.440 I ever went out by myself was my second encounter. 222 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.360 The area is you got to get back there, drive 223 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.960 to the gate and then there's one paved road that's 224 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.159 one lane that swift Mud uses to go back and 225 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.159 check on their pumps and stuff. And then other than 226 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:31.840 that this there's nothing back there, no motors, no hunting, nothing. 227 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.080 You got to take your bike and ride a bike 228 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.000 back there about two and a half miles, three miles 229 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:40.840 back to the creek, and then it's another mile back 230 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.039 through trails to get to where I wanted to go. 231 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.399 So I went in there. My bike was making too 232 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.440 much noise. You remember, back then, I'm thinking, I gotta 233 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.559 go full camo fool everything I think outside the box 234 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.000 about stuff. Sometimes I thought, go in the middle of 235 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.600 the day. If these things are supposed to be nocturnal, 236 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.000 just like a deer, you sneak up on deer easier 237 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.159 the middle of day when they're bedded down. I'm thinking, 238 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:03.720 I'll go out there in the middle of the day. 239 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.559 I'm gonna sneak up on these things. I'm full camo. 240 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:08.480 I get out there, I walk the rest of the way, 241 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:10.440 and I get to the trail that I wanted to go, 242 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:12.480 which is part of the creek goes right into it. 243 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.000 I went to the thickest part of the cypress everything 244 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.440 I could find, and that's where I wanted to go. 245 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:18.519 And I go in there, and I follow this little 246 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.799 trail that goes back to the four wheel trail, and 247 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.799 I found a little tiny road that went to the right, 248 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.240 and I start walking it, and I found these two 249 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.080 little bare footprints, one in front of another, and I 250 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.879 was like, what the hell are kids doing back here? Barefoot? 251 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.440 Way back here? This is how I thought. And then 252 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.440 ahead of me was a tree that was crossing the 253 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:38.519 path this way, and another tree that was crossing the 254 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.679 path this way, right in front of where those little 255 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.879 footprints were. About halfway down the trail, I got to 256 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.879 that tree, those two trees, and everything in my gut 257 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.480 that tells you not to do something went off and 258 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.600 do not cross that tree. These are putty or for 259 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.759 a reason, you're not supposed to go over there. I'm 260 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.159 gung ho. I've been in Florida my whole life. That 261 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.279 scares me out there. I stepped over to the other one. 262 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.399 Took about three steps time. I found a footprint that 263 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.159 was probably about fifteen inches long. And I was sitting 264 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.440 there looking at that footprint. Oh my god, this is real. 265 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.519 And about the time I'm looking at that, have you 266 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:16.559 ever heard anything fall into pal meadows? How loud it is? 267 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.000 That loud crash? Well, this is middle of the day 268 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.919 in June or July somewhere around there, summer, no wind blowing, 269 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:27.480 no nothing, and it's dead, still hot. I looking at 270 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.639 that footprint heard just fun it to me. It sounded 271 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.840 like something used a tree to get up, it broke 272 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.080 and fell into the palmitdes and I was like, oh shit, 273 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:40.960 it was loud. And then this gurgle started. If you've 274 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.840 heard a big male alligator is the closest thing I 275 00:12:43.840 --> 00:13:01.799 could get to what it was close to. It was 276 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.720 deeper than a big male alligator's bellow. And it kept 277 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.200 going and I was like feeling what it was doing. 278 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.759 I literally didn't want to look it was. It couldn't 279 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:12.639 have been more than twenty or thirty yards away from me. 280 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:16.080 It wasn't far. It was right there, and I didn't 281 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.679 want to look at it. I turned and I'm going 282 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:19.679 to talk to it. I said, I'm leaving. I'm sorry, 283 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.039 I'm leaving. I am scared shitless, Brian, and I've never 284 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:26.159 felt the fear that I fell to that moment as 285 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.279 a grown man. Terrified, dude, I can't run because that's 286 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.799 a predator. Probably, I don't know what that is right there. 287 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:34.399 I get up to the road. Now, now I got 288 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:36.720 to walk a half a mile out after this happened, 289 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.519 I turned left to get on the main trail. I 290 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.120 start walking, so it was over here. I take a step. 291 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.600 It takes a step, and I hear another step. I 292 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.000 would take a step. They took steps. Every time I stopped, 293 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:49.200 it stopped. Oh my god, it's following me. I got 294 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.120 tears watering up in my eyeballs. As a full grown man, 295 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.559 I'm not coming out of here. I'm gonna die back here. 296 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.840 If I pissed this thing off, it's gonna kill me. 297 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.759 I started walking. I keep going and I heard something. 298 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.440 It was sticks, they were freaking throwing sticks at me. 299 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.159 They were throwing them, and they were hitting the trees, 300 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:07.559 and one of them laying on the tree on in 301 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.960 front of me. I'm still got my butt fucker walk 302 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:13.039 going and I keep on going, and I swear I 303 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.759 saw something to my peripheral go by, and I'm thinking 304 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.799 that's it. He's going up. He's flanking me. He go 305 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.480 ahead of me. I'm done. I made it to my bike, 306 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.519 got on it started peeling out of there. Nothing ever happened. 307 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.279 I got out to the main little paved road, peddled 308 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.440 my butt off. I got back to my truck. Right 309 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.639 when I get off my bike, I threw up and 310 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:37.120 then my head started pounding so bad. For four days, 311 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.919 my ears felt like they were swollen. I got zapped. 312 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.639 I didn't even know what it was, but I think 313 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:43.799 one hundred percent got zapped. 314 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.960 It's interesting you were saying that you got sick as 315 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.440 you got back to your truck. The first thing I 316 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.639 was thinking, was it an adrenaline dump. You started talking 317 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.559 about the ear thing and then the feeling of possibly 318 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.159 getting hit with infrasound. It's interesting because I I have 319 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.799 interviewed quite a few people that have felt like they 320 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.720 have been hit with infrasound zapped as you said it, 321 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.720 the reaction seems to be the same with everybody. Is 322 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:15.559 this overwhelming fear and then it's either something going on 323 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:20.440 with the insides, the ears and the nausea in retrospect, 324 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:22.919 I think you already answered the question, but do you think, 325 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.080 looking back now, that's what it was. Do you think 326 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:27.519 this thing might have hit you or multiple things might 327 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:29.320 have hit you with infrasound and that's why you had 328 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.600 this reaction? And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. 329 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.720 We'll be right back after these messages. 330 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.360 I definitely do so important to say. I've had two 331 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.840 bad experiences, and the two bad experiences I had were 332 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.440 my fault. And I didn't know that then, but I 333 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:51.679 know that now, and those two experiences changed the way 334 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.480 I did the research, the way I did everything from 335 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.600 now going forward. Ever, I really haven't been too much 336 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.559 in the woods by myself since these things happen. You 337 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.399 know that one's scared me. That freaked me out a 338 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.960 little bit, but I still couldn't stop, Like now, I 339 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.159 really had to know what the hell that was. Because 340 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:09.440 I knew what it was, I knew I had gone 341 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:10.759 out to do what I wanted to do and I 342 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.720 found it. I'm not crazy. I know I'm not crazy. Now, 343 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.000 I went back to that same spot with my buddy 344 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.399 one time, with two of my buddies. We found some footprints, 345 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.879 we found some brave We got yelled at by something 346 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.279 in the middle of the night, which was terrifying, and 347 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:24.960 that was the last time I really did much out 348 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.000 there because it's so hard to get back in there. 349 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.840 It's patrolled at night by an arm guard. Didn't know 350 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.919 that until that night, and we were politely asked to 351 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.279 not go back there anymore. Why is that area patrolled 352 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.240 by an arm guard at night? Who works for the government? Weird? 353 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.279 I've been back there a few times, I can tell 354 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.559 you out of all the places I've been. David Sidodi 355 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.720 and ISRT guys, they're the first people I ever really 356 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.799 went out with. I took them back there to that spot. 357 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:51.879 Now was the first time I met that group, and 358 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:53.960 we did some really good pictures. So David thinks I 359 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.080 was the first person to ever find an inverted tree 360 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.720 in Florida, an inverted cypress tree. It was like about 361 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.559 a fifth foot long cypress tree with the root ball 362 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.919 sticking up in the air, and it was right off 363 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.480 the main trail that took you back to where that 364 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:06.359 encounter happened. 365 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.359 That's another thing that fascinates me, man, and I want 366 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:10.839 to talk a little bit about that. I want to 367 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.440 get to all your experiences, but I want to talk 368 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.400 about some of the things that you're finding down there, 369 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.880 because that kind of stuff fascinates me. Because I have 370 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.160 found a rather large tree. I'm pretty sure I put 371 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:25.720 the picture in my first book. If I didn't, I 372 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.519 know I've at least posted it online. It was a 373 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:32.279 large pine tree, probably twenty to thirty feet long, with 374 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.359 the root ball end of it stuck into a hole 375 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.720 in the side of a bank. Oh wow, right here 376 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:42.319 on our property, just randomly. I discovered it on a hike. 377 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:45.799 And I've seen weird things like that in other places, 378 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:48.839 some weird tree stuff up in Radium when I was 379 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.240 there a couple of years ago. Before we get into 380 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.160 some of the other experiences, while we're talking about that 381 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.079 really quickly, are you guys finding a lot of what 382 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.440 people would call tree breaks or tree structures or lean 383 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.400 to TP kind of structures down there? Are you finding 384 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:04.599 that kind of stuff it's weird. 385 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.079 It's almost like a cut off point in our area. 386 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.359 Our main research areas in central mid central Florida, Pasco County, 387 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:16.599 Hernando County, everything basically from Mayaka north. We find tree 388 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:20.200 structures all the time. We find very unique ones. Marie's 389 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.640 really good at finding the glyphs and different things. I 390 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.839 didn't even realize before I was with the group I 391 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:26.720 would find these things. I didn't really think too much 392 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.880 of them back in the day. There's so much that 393 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:30.839 I wish I would have known back then. Brian. They 394 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.880 would blow your mind, like the amount of footprints I found, 395 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.160 and I didn't realize how rare it was to find 396 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:40.279 these things. I found some really unique tree deals in 397 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.200 our main research area. One of the first things I 398 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.400 found in there, there was a tree like this, a 399 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.880 tree like this, and another one that didn't even come 400 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.799 from there that was braided in the middle of it. 401 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:51.599