WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:15.759 He'll be don't be bare. It's the Internet. You're busy. 2 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:19.399 Let's do this for November sixth, twenty twenty four. For 3 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.559 the next hour or so, let me help you sort 4 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:23.760 through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.000 with Me Jeff Grubb. Today, Nintendo has confirmed a much 6 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.760 requested feature for the Switch to But first, please join 7 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.840 me in welcoming today's co host to Game Mess Mornings. 8 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.280 It's Jason Finale. Everybody, Jason, how are you doing? 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.439 I am fine, but we're not going to talk about why. 10 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:42.920 I'm going to talk about gaming. 11 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:48.079 I mean, look, we'll just say, hey, it sucks. I'm embarrassed. 12 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.280 I am mostly embarrassed that people can be fooled by 13 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.520 such a loser again. I'm embarrassed to look at the 14 00:00:57.719 --> 00:00:59.799 women in my life, the trans people in my life. 15 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:02.920 I'm embarrassed to talk to my friends that live in 16 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.120 Eastern Europe and the Ukraine. 17 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.040 How do we explain this? 18 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.840 It's it's inexplicable because the excuses are are just not there. 19 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:16.000 And they you know, the people that vote for this 20 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.400 want us to be miserable. They do, and there are 21 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.040 a lot of real reasons to be miserable. There are 22 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:24.359 a lot of stuff could hurt a lot of people 23 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:31.120 I care about very deeply. But we're gonna we're gonna try. 24 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.040 Like me and Jason we're talking before the show started, 25 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.760 we're gonna try to be a respite. We're gonna try 26 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.359 to be a place where you can come. You're not 27 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.120 gonna forget about this. How do you forget about these 28 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:41.680 kinds of things. It's it's your entire life, it's there constantly. 29 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.680 But we're gonna be a place where, at least we're 30 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.040 not going to try to contribute to that misery. We're 31 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:48.920 going to try to do to do our best here 32 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.519 to make you feel good, make you feel happy, talk 33 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.400 about stuff you care about in a passionate way, and 34 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.959 when when bad things happen and it's too much, maybe 35 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:02.719 come here and we'll do our best to just hang 36 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.200 out and be cool. Does that sound like something we 37 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:06.280 can do, Jason. 38 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.439 God damn right, it does. And I didn't know if 39 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.120 you wanted to address it, So that's why I was 40 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:15.159 being coy. But to be completely honest, as as the 41 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.560 chat has said a couple of times, shit's fucked. It's 42 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.479 just it just is. And I you're talking about your friends, 43 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.000 you're talking about the women and the trans folks, and 44 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.280 I agree with you one hundred percent with that. I 45 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.360 had trouble looking at my own daughters. 46 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:29.080 Yep, this morning. 47 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.439 Yeah, it's rough, And because because my my eight year old, 48 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.280 the older one started showing an interest, started showing what 49 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.879 what what is voting? How does it work? What does 50 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:45.120 Explaining the electoral college to her was a nightmare because 51 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.639 I couldn't do it right. It's the whole other story 52 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.520 that doesn't even matter in this regard now. But but 53 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.960 she started to show that interest, and now I'm afraid 54 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.240 to cultivate that interest because of what then I then 55 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:00.759 have to explain to our it just it it kills me. 56 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.800 But I again, I completely echo your sentiment that we 57 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:11.400 have a response, We have a responsibility as goofball news reciters, 58 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.599 that we are to be goofballs and give you news 59 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.400 and talk about it in our own special way. When 60 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.400 you gave me the choice between Wednesday and Friday to 61 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:26.400 come on, I picked Wednesday, not realizing Yeah, yeah, but 62 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.639 I'm glad I'm here because if I could put some 63 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.759 smiles on some faces in this chat with my mispronunciations 64 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.879 of skibd or whatever the hell it is, I am 65 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.719 happy to do it, or just showing the hat. There's 66 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.120 the hat there. It is beautiful. So if I can be, 67 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.360 if I can be a little ray of sunshine on 68 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.960 what's going to be a very cloudy day, week, month, 69 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.919 four years for a lot of people, off we go. 70 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.639 Yep, I think we can confirm that the United States 71 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:59.759 of America doesn't definitely have that skibd ohio raise Zach. 72 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.560 It's a terminal condition and there's nothing we can do. Yeah, yeah, Hey, 73 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:08.360 we'll do our best. It's not gonna be perfect. I 74 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.000 you know, we're gonna maybe maybe make jokes where things 75 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.680 are serious, and we're gonna it's it's not gonna be perfect, 76 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.240 but I do deeply care about you people listening to this, 77 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:21.800 Uh right, and we're gonna do our best. 78 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:24.560 So uh you know, let's let's start with something good 79 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.199 now that I have the chance. Please over forty five 80 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.759 thousand dollars raised through extra life for the team. You 81 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.040 absolute goofballs. Yeah, what a what an amazing eighteen hours 82 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:38.439 that was. 83 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.720 You go, there's the mullet, everybody there, you go, I'm 84 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:43.319 getting rid of this thing soon. I'm almost just like 85 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.360 went this morning and got rid of it. 86 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.040 But genuine question over under the amount of words your 87 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:50.439 wife has said to you since you came up with 88 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:51.319 that mullet. 89 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.120 Ten, it's not it's definitely like I was like, I'm 90 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:56.480 gonna go get a haircut. He's like, won't you be 91 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.480 embarrassed to I go like, all right, well listen, you 92 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:03.920 don't have the whole back children the key. Yeah, and 93 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.800 my kids, my children were like, I kind of like it. 94 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:11.959 Hell yeah, it's very funny, cool, but yeah, hey, I'm 95 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.160 deeply proud of what we did for Extra Life. It 96 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.600 was a fun time. Forty five dollars. We'll do it 97 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:22.879 again next year again, looking forward to it. Let's explain 98 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.079 what we do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Grub, will 99 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.720 help piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking 100 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.720 news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. 101 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.560 For all these topics, I'll get the input of a 102 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.839 bona fide expert who will make me look smart. If 103 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:37.319 you are watching live on twitch welcome, You can always 104 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:39.480 listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching 105 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.399 for Game mess Mornings, or find the RSS on giant 106 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.040 bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later 107 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:49.600 with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, 108 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.160 we have a lot to get into, so let's start 109 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:55.600 the morning mess with PS five Pro reviews are out 110 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.319 our own two more Hussein wrote review over there on 111 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:04.399 game Spot. He said powerful on paper, but ordinary in action. Essentially, 112 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:09.040 I think the first assessment most people had is where 113 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:13.000 tam ended up with the system itself. Now I know that, like, 114 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:16.279 there's a lot of people who do have this thing, 115 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:18.279 and they're looking at it. When they're like comparing it 116 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.000 or trying to, like look at some games that really 117 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.920 take advantage of things like Horizon, they're like, no, you 118 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.639 know what, this does look better? And I do think 119 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.560 it's noticeable, But is it like noticeable to the tune 120 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:33.079 of an extra seven hundred dollars or I suppose if 121 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.079 you trade in your PS five an extra three fifty 122 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:40.600 and extra four hundred dollars. And I think the you know, 123 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.959 at least at now, from the games that our take 124 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.279 advantage of the PS five Pro, the fifty to fifty 125 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.439 five games that do so, the answer is probably not 126 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.000 really not It's not worth it in this moment for 127 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:57.759 most people, unless you are the most enthusiastic of enthusiasts. 128 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:04.680 Yes, I I appreciated TAM's review from the perspective of 129 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.959 the layman, right, the normal human being, who is just 130 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.600 am I upgrading this? Or am I good with my 131 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.720 current PS five? Because that's how I and I assume, 132 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.000 I mean, you and I have more knowledge than most, 133 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.600 but we're not like digital foundry knowledge right right, like that, 134 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.199 which is a whole other thing we can get to 135 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:26.560 in a second. But I sort of not having tried 136 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.720 it for myself, if I ever get the chance, I 137 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.000 expect to be like, Wow, this looks much better, but 138 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:35.079 it's not different enough to justify that added cost, which 139 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.040 seems to be yes of the reviews that I read 140 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:41.360 this morning where things are landing. Although I tried to 141 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.959 look at digital foundriies but it disappeared. I don't know 142 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.079 what's going on there, that their review was taken down, 143 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.839 that it was copy struck or whatever the hell happened, 144 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.160 but that hopefully they'll be able to dig into the 145 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.439 more technical side of it. But at the moment, powerfron 146 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.480 paper ordinary inaction. I expected to see it and be like, oh, yeah, 147 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.800 I noticed a differences, but nothing to make me want 148 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:07.040 to jump in. So I'm not surprised by these reviews 149 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:08.040 really at all. 150 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:11.399 Yeah, I mean, it's just that's where gaming is at 151 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.759 right now, That's where console gaming is at, gaming across 152 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.240 the board sort of. You know, I think every time 153 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.800 the systems come up, I've pointed out that the thing 154 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.800 I've noticed is the thing holding back games is no 155 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.040 longer the hardware. It is now time and money. And 156 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:29.040 now you have more powerful hardware. So technically it's even 157 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.800 more time and even more money required to take advantage 158 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:36.840 of fresh, new, more powerful systems. So and that's not happening. 159 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.360 You know, games aren't getting bigger budgets now just because 160 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:40.559 there's new hardware outs. 161 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.519 So yeah, and I saw that I agree with you there. 162 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.879 And I saw some analysis, so a thread on X 163 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.600 or something I was reading. Maybe this was a review 164 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:51.200 that I can't remember exactly where it was, and if 165 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:55.360 it was, you please show yourself. PS four Pro had 166 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.440 a much bigger impact when it launched, because at the 167 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.720 time the PS four was creaking under its own way 168 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:02.960 with the amount of games that were available for it. 169 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.039 Backwards compatibility had just come to it, and it was 170 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:10.600 a noticeable improvement. That sort of situation is not happening 171 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.600 here because the amount of especially in the first party, 172 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.840 the amount of games just isn't there. 173 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.200 Yeah, I mean the amount of games, and the the 174 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.679 PS five itself is a much different piece than the 175 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.559 PS four was. Where the PS five they treated with 176 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.799 love and care and thought it could have could be 177 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:29.759 a success. When they launched the PS four, they were 178 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.200 not sure, so they put you know, you know, a 179 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.960 netbook CPU in there, and they really limited the amount 180 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.879 of investment they made into the GPU. It's a it 181 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.559 was a you know, the whole console generation was rough. 182 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.240 They were both pretty bad consoles, the Xbox One and 183 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.360 the PS four. So the PS four Pro and the 184 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.200 Xbox one X were very welcome. 185 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:52.759 Yeah, And and that sort of iterative jump isn't quite 186 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.879 needed yet at this stage of the game, if it's 187 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:57.919 ever needed at all. So the fact that they're trying 188 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.919 to go back to this well and it ultimately isn't 189 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.919 doing much more than as Tam puts, it, a luxury 190 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:10.799 item for tech enthusiasts. That's not surprising to me that 191 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:12.960 it's not going to be I mean, it'll probably still 192 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.559 sell because it's PlayStation and some people are just tech 193 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.399 enthusiasts who have to be at the top of the line. 194 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.799 But will I be surprised if Sony's like, it's not 195 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:23.679 doing as well as I hope? No, I won't. 196 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:25.840 Yeah, that's what that was actually gonna be. My next 197 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.960 question is like, Okay, whatever the reviews, how the thing 198 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:33.279 actually performs, maybe doesn't matter so much. Like the reality 199 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.559 on the ground is people want shiny new things. Are 200 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.240 enough people are going to buy this shiny new thing, 201 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.799 And I think the combination of the price and the 202 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:44.600 perceived quality of the base PS five as we've come 203 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.919 to call it, is kind of those things are going 204 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.879 to combine to create a situation where maybe I think 205 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.360 a few fewer people actually end up getting the PS 206 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.799 five relative or PS five pro relatives to the PS 207 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:00.840 four PRO. So I think the final sort of split 208 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.559 that Sony points to is that about ten eleven percent 209 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:08.000 one in five people who purchased the PS four of 210 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:13.080 any kind purchased the PS four pro and it probably 211 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.320 will end up in the same like range here, But 212 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.279 I won't be surprised if that number is actually like 213 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.360 eight percent, nine percent, just a little bit lower. Sorry 214 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.159 started talking about percentage points and I got a PTSD 215 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:34.720 from yesterday. But yeah, it's exactly, but hey, that's their problem, 216 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:38.919 not ours. And frankly, you know, even my problem is 217 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.559 do I let myself get convinced to end up buying 218 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.440 this thing when I'm sitting here now and thinking I 219 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:49.240 don't need this. I really don't, so I don't know 220 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.399 that could happen to me. Still, I am a sucker. 221 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.679 I've planned that a bunch of times. I do like 222 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:58.200 shiny new things, so there's still that possibility. But seven 223 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:02.200 hundred dollars is a big enough sticker shock that so 224 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.320 far it has been enough to scare me off. 225 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.840 Yep, same, I am perfectly capable with my base level 226 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:13.080 PS five and my curved monitor. Here, I'm finally playing 227 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.279 through Rebirth, and I don't think I'm missing anything by 228 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.279 the graphical improvements of the pro give. I can play 229 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.879 Rebirth just fine and get what I want, which is 230 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.080 a very confusing when is this going to actually go somewhere? Story? 231 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.840 But I am enjoying it, but like that, the graphics 232 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:28.440 won't fix that. 233 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:32.399 Now, Yeah, just play Rebirth and you know, of course 234 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.919 that's one of the games that apparently takes massive advantage 235 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.919 of the PSI pro and I guess that's relatively speaking 236 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.840 as well, because it's that was the one that we 237 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:42.399 had a little bit of a blur when you played 238 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:45.519 it in the performance mode to it. So they fixed 239 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.840 that up and most of their games don't have that issue. 240 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.519 So that's why it's a a bigger improvement. All right, 241 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.120 let's get into a whole batch of Nintendo news. Nintendo 242 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.720 did drop their earnings report earlier this week. There's been 243 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.960 sort of more out of that. The CEO has come 244 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:04.720 out a couple of times and expanded on a few things. 245 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:08.240 I think they did end up having their Q and 246 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:10.080 A with investors. They usually have that the day after, 247 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:14.799 and that's happened now. So let's start here with for a, 248 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:18.720 Kawa getting out on social media and confirming a new 249 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.960 feature or a requested feature for the Switch to switch 250 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.200 to will be backwards compatible with the switch. Nintendo has 251 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.279 fully confirmed. Now this is from Jordan Miller at VEGC, 252 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.440 and I see someone highlighting the headlines. Now, I think 253 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.399 Sean has a yeah, there we go. 254 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:37.240 Thank you. 255 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.600 Sean appreciate that. So now we have headlines again. All right, 256 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.440 switch too, We'll be backwards compatible. We'll switch Nintendo, confirms 257 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.399 Jordan Miller VGC Nintendo's confirmed that the successor of the 258 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.159 Nintendo Switch will be backward compatible with the Nintendo Switch, 259 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.759 and a post on Twitter a message from Nintendo President 260 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.960 Shintaro for Okawa also announced that further information about the 261 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:00.159 successor to the Nintendo Switch would come at a later day. 262 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:02.720 I'll just I'll read the message you posted. This is 263 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.399 for a kala, which is how they always start their stuff. 264 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.039 I love it. At today. At today's Corporate Management Policy briefing, 265 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.759 we announced that Nintendo Switch software will also will also 266 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.000 be playable on the successor to the Nintendo Switch. Nintendo 267 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.559 Switch Online will be available on the successor to the 268 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.159 Nintendo Switch as well. Further information about the successor to 269 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.360 the Nintendo Switch, including its compatibility with the Nintendo Switch, 270 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.919 will be announced at a later date. So jas, let 271 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.519 me ask you. Do you read this as full compatibility 272 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:36.039 across the board? No? With no exceptions? 273 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:42.440 Yeah, that would include physical mea right? I mean else, 274 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.200 how else are you supposed to take that? I feel 275 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.279 like Nintendo is a company that's comfortable enough to have 276 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.679 made the distinction if it was just digital downloads versus 277 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.799 digital and physical. They just say it's backwards compatible on 278 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.480 the successful successor to the switch, which tells me that 279 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.600 they're either to keep the cartridge format that they have now, 280 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.360 or they've included two slots yep, kind of like how 281 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.519 three DS and uh or yeah, three DS right, that's 282 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:10.080 a lot on topic. 283 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.080 Yes, and the DS had a Game Boy Advanced slot 284 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.960 on the bottom is something like that. The thing I 285 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.840 remember most three DS we used might be actually how 286 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:21.399 they actually end up doing it, which I think there 287 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.200 was one slot, but there's like a little tab on 288 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.879 the side of three DS games. Could I could be 289 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.320 mixing this up, but I think that's how. It's just 290 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.960 a little almost imperceptible tab and that would prevent you 291 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.360 from putting those games in a DS. But you could 292 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:37.159 put DS games in a three DS and and gotten it. 293 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.000 That's probably how this is going to go down the 294 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.399 the There's been some advancements in the kind of flash 295 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:47.120 memory that Nintendo game puts on for their game cards 296 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.039 they use, uh, and you know it's not it's still 297 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.600 not as cheap or or readily accessible as like a 298 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:55.600 CD or something like that, or DVD or a Blu 299 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:58.600 Ray even uh, but it's there's been advancements there. They're 300 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.759 they're more storage, so they should be able to have 301 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.200 much bigger games this time around, which will be a requirement. 302 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:07.600 But in doing that, they will probably have to have 303 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.000 a new format, but it could look very similar to 304 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.279 the Switch format as it stands. So yeah, I think 305 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.080 one side of it, like you mentioned, physical digital all 306 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.480 should just work. That's kind of what they're implying here. 307 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.960 The other side of it is and I think this 308 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.440 is not like a huge surprise to anybody, but like 309 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.559 there's motion control games that need a joy Con to work. 310 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.360 So this system is probably going to be a lot 311 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.440 like the Switch one, which we were already assuming, right. 312 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.639 Yeah, because that prototype had come out the last time 313 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.279 we were here, with a doc look like Home Store 314 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.919 Runner and the magnetic the magnetic Joey cons on either side, 315 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:46.639 So that makes sense. I mean, I fully expected it 316 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.759 to be more of an iteration in form factor and 317 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:53.559 have all the improvements be under the hood. What I 318 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.080 am curious about is two things. One will the will 319 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:57.480 the kortridge just taste the same? 320 00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:59.279 Oh, and I bet they'll taste even worse. 321 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:06.119 And two I'm being told to emphasize by showing which 322 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.359 cartridge I just want to make sure I say that right, I. 323 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:11.640 Was gonna let it go. I was gonna let it go. 324 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.920 I was gonna be like, I'm gonna be, uh the 325 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.160 bigger man and not make a point of it. They're 326 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.319 not cartridges, everybody. They're game cards. Cartries imply that they 327 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.880 become like part of the system instead of just holding memory. 328 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:29.119 They're just game media like CDs. How dare you Sean? 329 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.359 But yes, old man, yells Alas, I. 330 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.880 Was trying not to be that man. I was trying, 331 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.839 but get leave it up to Sean to just presh 332 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:43.440 the button. Yeah, game card, cartridge, whatever, it's all the same. 333 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:46.160 Uh we have this weekend. You're the smaller man. 334 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:52.759 Yes, that's right, that's definitely true. Uh yeah, I'm the 335 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.160 thing that I'm like still curious about, is okay. So, 336 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.240 like the first couple of sentences say like what we 337 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.720 were what works back to even kind of broke those down. 338 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:04.079 But then they're like, there will be more information about 339 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.720 how this works. This compatibility works with the switch one 340 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.279 to switch to. Does that make you believe that maybe 341 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.759 there's more to this, like improved performance from some switch 342 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.920 games automatically on switch to Do you think that that's 343 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.680 maybe what they're implying here or is it something less 344 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:22.079 than that. 345 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.799 I don't think Nintendo gives a crap about stuff like that. 346 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:30.559 I think the switch cards cards are going to work 347 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.720 the way the switch cards work, and then the new 348 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.720 six switch switch successor cards with the little notch or 349 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.240 whatever the form factor is going to, you know, perform 350 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.319 another way it. Maybe maybe you'll get a better battery 351 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.200 life out of the switch one games because they're not 352 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.880 using as much of the that's good point more powerful 353 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:54.160 internal hardware, so they get more gameplay on the go. 354 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.559 But other than that, no, I as soon as you 355 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.279 said the notch in the three DS exactly, well, I 356 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:06.599 think it's gonna go down now just as similar as 357 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.559 it could be without being too different. Now, that also 358 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:13.240 runs into a we use scenario where it might if 359 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.759 the name is not different enough, then the look of 360 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.799 it won't help either. So hopefully it's not just called 361 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.000 switch to, it's something different enough that they don't add 362 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:26.759 that extra layer of confusion, right, especially if everything's going 363 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:28.319 to be as similar as we think it will with 364 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.200 the leak thought from the last time I was on 365 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:35.160 Plus now this backwards compatibility conjecture that we're doing here 366 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.839 that I think is the last big pitfall with switch 367 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.799 to the actual naming of it. If it's different enough, 368 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.359 I think they won't fall into that. We you think again, 369 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:44.599 But I. 370 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.480 Mean the easiest way to avoid that is just called 371 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:50.240 a switch to. Right. If it's a switch to, everyone 372 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.119 who buys stuff understands what that means. It works, It's 373 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.799 worked for the PlayStation without fail so far. And if 374 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.160 you're going to be the most conservative version of Nintendo 375 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.359 and hope to avoid that, that that that's the answer. 376 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.119 I think, true. I do like switch advanced, though, I'm 377 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.559 sure yeah. I mean, Nintendo's been able to pull it 378 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.240 off before, so it's not like I don't think they 379 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:13.920 would shy away. For if they feel like they have 380 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:15.880 a name that sounds really good and works really well, 381 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.559 I think they'll they'll do it. But if that's their 382 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.960 biggest concern, switched to is the easiest way to avoid that. 383 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.759 So sure, you know, and I think there's no way 384 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:27.559 it doesn't have the switch name though, right, It's definitely an. 385 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:31.160 Absolutely has to, yes, has to, if only for a 386 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:33.799 familiarity of those who are not familiar with games alone. 387 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:39.200 Yep, I think, uh, the you know, last thing on 388 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:42.559 this point is, you know, so if games do get 389 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:47.519 some improvement, though, like maybe not automatic, because they we 390 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:50.799 know that they were according to the reporting showing off 391 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:53.279 an improved version of Breath of the Wild to some 392 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.480 developers at like games Com the year before, the year prior, 393 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:59.279 not this past games come, but the year prior maybe 394 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.480 or maybe it was this that one. It's all conflated 395 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.240 in my head. But so it's like one of the 396 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.000 big things with this system is right, no, those games 397 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.880 can run better. Do you think the possibility here is 398 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.119 that the thing that the change that they might talk 399 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.119 about at a future date could be and here's how 400 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:18.599 that works. And some of these games will have ten 401 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.079