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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from the dining room table at East

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<v Speaker 1>Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle

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<v Speaker 1>the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>a few headlines for our decidedly queer lens. See what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode is brought to you by Decanta jug Wine

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<v Speaker 1>and Dicant jug Wine.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your post Charles Tyson Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm your host more than madrible. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Full Circle Table.

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<v Speaker 2>You made me snort in my intro. Damn, sorry, Hi baby, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you. I'm okay, just okay, I mean, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. He's tired.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the end of a we're always tired, long week.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is August second. Yeah, that books Green

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<v Speaker 1>Outside the World is still there.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been officially in Leo season.

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<v Speaker 1>For months now. For a week. Yeah, this this Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>would be Tutsa's birthday should be ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>And today would be my dearly departed bestie's birthday. Christina

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<v Speaker 2>would be fifty one today, exactly twelve days older than me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was the running joke. You will always be

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<v Speaker 2>twelve days older than me, and there is nothing you

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<v Speaker 2>can do.

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<v Speaker 1>About nothing you can do. It's true. My cousin is

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<v Speaker 1>two months and one week older than I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am, and that one week is very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it always will be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there October first to December eight mm hmm. This

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<v Speaker 1>is two months and a week. Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yesterday, August first, was my bestie Ken his birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>So many leos, A.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of leos, A lot of leos. I'm saying happy

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<v Speaker 1>birthday a lot because.

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<v Speaker 2>We're everywhere and we're very sensitive if you don't say

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<v Speaker 2>something from the.

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<v Speaker 1>End of July through all. Yeah, we know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of leos. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, We're fabulous and we're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That must be it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it is from where I'm sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, and uh yeah, going to Kat's Jellico ball

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<v Speaker 1>was still your birthday present. I'm just gonna keep saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Happy birthday again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I will still be a changed human from

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<v Speaker 2>having seen it on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, And we were well, I'm sure we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to a bit. We were watching Haitiestown yesterday. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>went to the movies. We managed to make it to

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<v Speaker 1>our local queer art show. Yes and buy things, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we managed to meet up with Kathy at the

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<v Speaker 1>movies where we have recliners and I see Hadestown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and their limited engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been extended extended.

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<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be five days and the original

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<v Speaker 2>run took place over the past weekend when we were

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<v Speaker 2>booked solid. So when it got extended, I said, yes, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. And as they were doing different shots

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, I leaned over and said, and you we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. You can talk about how you met

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Deshields in his dressing room recently. Yes, yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Yes, because I met Andre Deshields in his dressing room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, exactly, just like I was saying, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to text my my friend Andre Deshields about the episode

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<v Speaker 1>with great great King. Yes, I will mention having seen

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<v Speaker 1>Haydes Town a role he originated and one a tony

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<v Speaker 1>four correct correct, Yes, at brilliant is so well done.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is we saw it in Philadelphia touring. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the core members I guess, our original

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<v Speaker 1>cast and then the West End folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the current the original Broadway cast and then current

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<v Speaker 2>at least at the time of the filming cast on

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<v Speaker 2>the West End.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I love that one of the Fates as

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<v Speaker 1>a transwoman. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And it took me a second to catch because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at first you're just taken over by the Fates, because

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<v Speaker 2>the Fates are like, might be my favorite characters in

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<v Speaker 2>the show actually, yea, because they're fabulous and they do

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<v Speaker 2>everything in three part harmony, the way they.

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<v Speaker 1>Move, the way they sing yes so much there.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them. And there it was two black women

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<v Speaker 2>and one white woman of size, yes, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>all killing it. And after a while I was like, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>and then leaned over to you. I was like, is

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<v Speaker 2>she a trans woman? You said, I think so, And

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<v Speaker 2>I looked it up and.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yes, yeah, I don't think I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so, Yes she is, yeah, because I did clock

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<v Speaker 1>her voice, and I went, oh, good for her because

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<v Speaker 2>Once she got the solo moment, I was like, okay, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and out and proud and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>from what I was reading. But yeah, yeah, that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>That gave it another layer of delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Alie Daniel is her name, Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's hard to not watch her for real

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<v Speaker 1>when she's on screen because very captivating persons.

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<v Speaker 2>That entire cast. Man, I get it because the cast

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<v Speaker 2>we saw, the touring cast, I went away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. I said. One thing you can know for

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<v Speaker 2>sure if you are in Hadestown, it is to be

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<v Speaker 2>assumed that you can sing your fucking ass off, because

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<v Speaker 2>the music is designed for people who can sang s

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<v Speaker 2>A y and G sang. And seeing the original cast,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, that's that's the through line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it's as important with Hades, the other character.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Hades is the important thing about Hades is

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a striking look and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to hit a bottom note that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to lift up your shoe to reach.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because you need that booming voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because both actors we have seen play Hades have

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<v Speaker 2>had a very deep bus voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah my god. Yeah. And I'm like, where do I

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<v Speaker 1>know him from? Where do I know him from? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you went gilded age.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. Okay, it made sense because I who

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<v Speaker 1>did he remind me of? I've said something to Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Quinn. I think and and and visually, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you know with the I'm like, I know him from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Page is Patrick Page name?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and he yeah, I had the voy he had

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he had injured his his foot and so

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<v Speaker 2>he had the walking boot. But they like created this

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<v Speaker 2>like decoration on it, so it like went with his outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of did. Yeah, it was very fierce. And

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<v Speaker 1>he still danced with wearing the same suit in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie that Nicole Kidman is wearing right before the movie

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<v Speaker 1>starts every time, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I always said, I always say, you can rock the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out of Yeah, he was wearing the same suit,

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<v Speaker 2>sparkly pinstrip.

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<v Speaker 1>It hit different on him whatever, Yeah, different vibe. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to talking about Broadway, Okay, apropos of nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We just released our interview with doctor Gregory King, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>who came on the pod, and we talked about cats

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<v Speaker 2>agelical Ball, and we discussed why we think it close,

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<v Speaker 2>it's closing early, and what are the contributing factors in

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<v Speaker 2>the Broadway system as a whole, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, we asked some bigger questions possible ways

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<v Speaker 2>to alleviate this problem on a larger scale. We got deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why do some shows get grace for a time

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<v Speaker 1>and some don't? Yeah, was part of the question. Something

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<v Speaker 1>as groundbreaking as this. Not getting more time is a question.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a serious question. And you know, in part, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this yesterday, maybe part of the answer is

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<v Speaker 1>doing these releases in movie theaters. Now you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously, you know, an edited version, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>the stage play. It's you know, filmed on stage like

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton one. Right, And is this another way to create

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<v Speaker 1>a revenue stream that can help these shows? Was the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Met Live. I don't know if they still do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Elizabeth was talking about this that you used to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go see opera live. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a simulcast in a movie theater. Yeah, so while the

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<v Speaker 1>performance is happening at the Met in New York, you

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<v Speaker 1>could go to a movie theater in Chicago and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like twenty five dollars and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it would be now, but and watch the same performance. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that expands the reach. It may it creates more accessibility,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I doubt it minimizes the audiences on Broadway itself,

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<v Speaker 1>because the people that are going to Broadway, I think

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<v Speaker 1>are going to Broadway, and the people who can't never

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<v Speaker 1>get there, they might see it when it tours, or

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<v Speaker 1>they may never see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And that's primarily like the staged recordings shown in

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<v Speaker 2>movie theaters. I feel like those are for people that

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<v Speaker 2>are either most likely never going to physically make it

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<v Speaker 2>to see a Broadway show on Broadway, or for fans

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<v Speaker 2>of the show to see it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen Hamilton on stage. I've only seen the

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<v Speaker 1>Disney you know, Channel version, which is excellent. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>original cast. It's from twenty sixteen, and tickets at that

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<v Speaker 1>time were so astronomically expensive there was no way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no way we could have seen it on

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<v Speaker 1>stage at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm glad, Like with Hadestown, I'm glad we saw

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<v Speaker 2>it in the order that we saw. We saw the

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<v Speaker 2>touring production first, and then we saw the original cast

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie because like seeing Hamilton for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time with the original cast, it's like, I'm in no

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<v Speaker 2>big hurry to see anyone else do it, Okay, fair,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's just me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like seeing different people bring different things to

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<v Speaker 1>the role, even you go who else could do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then somebody brings something fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's plenty of people that could like rock

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you mentioned the physicality of the person doing

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<v Speaker 1>it on tour, doing the Hermes part, Oh, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like much more physical, more dancing, more movement. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, much younger actor. For one thing. Under Deshields,

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<v Speaker 1>every movement is so intentional and so elegant and so clear. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of the storytelling. He doesn't have to move around,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He danced, did oh, he did like a nice little

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<v Speaker 2>bit there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you know, watching him an old Deuteronomy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, right, yeah, you don't have to move much,

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<v Speaker 1>right because when you move everyone sees exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>did that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. I in no way felt like

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<v Speaker 2>having seen the more physical version of Hermes first, I

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<v Speaker 2>in no way felt like there was anything missing from

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<v Speaker 2>Andre to Shields's performance. I mean, first of all, why

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<v Speaker 2>would I But it's just there was it was different, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was different. It was different, but he was captivating,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it is. It's it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>Doubt Fire musical. Yes, that actor had to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to sing, dance, act, do impressions, play instruments just to

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<v Speaker 2>actually might be the same thing because it was a

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<v Speaker 2>younger actor playing Hermes. There's no way that he would

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<v Speaker 2>have had that nuance and presence like at his organically,

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere he's been. You know what I'm saying, Like seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>Well and some just get old. But under it just shields.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a master right on the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in in Cats, like Andre just stood there, gave

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<v Speaker 2>a look across the stage and then gave a thumbs down. A.

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<v Speaker 2>I was captivated and B it was effective as fuck, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, a younger actor might feel compelled to

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, it's big because you're riverted, right, so you

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like that first that that actor we saw

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<v Speaker 2>first do Hermes had to fly to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>same place that Andre walks to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we watched Ain't Misbehaving? Yes, that was filmed

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<v Speaker 1>in eighty two with the original cast, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>that moment where I went, I kind of forgot young

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<v Speaker 1>then I kind of forgot that the same dude, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same person, because yeah, how many years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Well also, but he was, he was cute, and he

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<v Speaker 2>He did the damn thing. Well, Ain't misbehavin Is like

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<v Speaker 2>when I told Andre that he was my archetype for

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<v Speaker 2>queer black cool. That performance is what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what cemented that for me. It's like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>aspire to be. And I also realized, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen Andre to Shields in performance in a

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time. Before we saw him as old Uteronomy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was moving very slow and tentative, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, okay. And then we saw Hadestown, which

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<v Speaker 2>Old Deuteronomy is old and and and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so it's like domain Shields camp. Correct. It means

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<v Speaker 2>Which again is a testament to how fucking talented.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Andre Shields, I'm still working on Broadway at eighty right.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta love it, right, yetta love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I should have known because when we met

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<v Speaker 2>him in the dressing room, he was just regal and

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<v Speaker 2>fierce and absolutely ten feet tall, even though he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Yeah, he just has a presence and an elegance.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, welcome to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Andrea Shields Appreciation Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. I want to note we did have two

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<v Speaker 1>folks who we lost since we last sat down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this one is for my dancing people and for.

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<v Speaker 1>My arts loving people, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Simone forty passed way at the age of ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>She was very much a founding presence in the postmodernist movement, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and introducing the different elements of the arts into movement,

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<v Speaker 2>including writing and painting and you know, using minimalist movement

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<v Speaker 2>to create larger works. And her stuff was captivating. She

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<v Speaker 2>could do a lot with a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's that? She took her inspiration from everyday objects,

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<v Speaker 1>children's play, animals, minimalism, and LSD trips. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also that she.

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<v Speaker 1>Called her most influential works dance Constructions. Yes, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of my postmodern folks are definitely mourning

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<v Speaker 2>her right now. Simone forty was. I also just loved

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<v Speaker 2>saying her name. Simone forty.

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<v Speaker 1>She was premiered at Yoko Owner's Lower Manhattan loft in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one. Her groundbreaking five Dance Constructions and Some

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<v Speaker 1>Other Things was a suite of short pieces based on

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<v Speaker 1>playground structures, improvisation, and random chance. Yes, the idea had

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<v Speaker 1>been planted in her by the pioneering recent performances of

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<v Speaker 1>Japan's Gutai Art Association. Yes Gutai, Yes, whose artists crashed

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<v Speaker 1>through paper panels and hurled fistfuls of mud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that sounds right, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, that's that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I would have gone to. It would take

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<v Speaker 2>place in a warehouse that someone managed to acquire access to.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was one of those word of mouth things

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow everybody went to and someone ends up naked

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<v Speaker 2>by the end you're like, that was amazing? What the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck did I just see? Like it was? She did

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Aha, Okay, okay, she did get her obituary in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times yep, ninety one ninety one. May we

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<v Speaker 1>all see one? I know, that's right, And she was

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<v Speaker 1>still performing, it looks like until fairly recently. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool, right't rest well? Yes, Simon Forte, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent Pastor, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Pussy, Big Pussy, which is a name I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe was ever said on network television.

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<v Speaker 1>Network television. It was HBO.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware of that. I'm talking about like when they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it on the view.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they they said big pussy. Yes, okay. Salvator is

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<v Speaker 1>am I saying bumps And Sarah the foot Soldier he

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<v Speaker 1>earned FBI in foremant, known to his friends as big Pussy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was his seminal work. We've seen him in so

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<v Speaker 1>many other things. He played Italian American tough guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was. His biggest role was in Sopranos. He died

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think I ever saw him play anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't mobbed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I did either. He died at his home. In The Bronx,

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<v Speaker 1>he played mob enforcers, capos and the like before being

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<v Speaker 1>cast in The Sopranos, which premiered in nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh And his character was known as Big Pussy, not

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<v Speaker 1>for any obscene reason, but because he had started his

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<v Speaker 1>career in crime as a cat burglar.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>His friends added Big to distinguish him from another character,

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<v Speaker 1>Gennaro Malonga, known as Little Pussy. He won critical for

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<v Speaker 1>the nuance he brought to the role. The character's flawed, conflicted,

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<v Speaker 1>and likable caught in circumstances partly beyond his control that

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<v Speaker 1>nevertheless sealed his fate. Ye, yeah, he came late to acting.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent over twenty years as a nightclub bouncer and

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<v Speaker 1>limousine driver, eventually becoming a manager and owner of a

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<v Speaker 1>club in New Roshelle, New York. Among his regulars were

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and Kevin Dillon, who knew him from his days

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<v Speaker 1>as a chauffeur. Impressed by his charisma. They persuaded him

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<v Speaker 1>to take acting classes and auditioned for small roles in

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<v Speaker 1>New York area theater. He climbed quickly, getting parts in

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows and independent movies, as well as small roles

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<v Speaker 1>in Goodfellas and Carlito's Way, both about mob life and

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<v Speaker 1>set in the city. His first major role was in

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<v Speaker 1>the film The Jerky Boys Not Familiar, Oh God, the

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<v Speaker 1>right hand man of a mob boss played by Allan Arcan.

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<v Speaker 1>More mob theme roles followed, including in the movies Nightfalls

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<v Speaker 1>on Manhattan, Gotti, and Mickey Blue Eyes. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>working alongside many of the same Italian actors who would

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<v Speaker 1>later be on the cast as Sopranos. Yep, yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that Jerky Boys? Was that fucking show on

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<v Speaker 1>Comedy Central? It was all these recorded prank calls and

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<v Speaker 1>they were re enacted by fucking puppets. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>It was straight white boy nonsense that I never cared about.

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<v Speaker 1>He has done several reality shows after The Sopranos, Celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>Apprentice or Celebrity Family Feud, Dancing with the Stars, branded

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<v Speaker 1>his own pasta sauce, and had a role in the

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway musical Bullets Over Broadway in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the musical Bullets over Broadway, where they were even

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<v Speaker 2>fewer black people than there were in the movie. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie there was one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, interesting, interesting, interesting portrayals. He died at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Yeah, Okay, do we want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and then we will come back and jump

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<v Speaker 1>right into good news. Yes, let's do that. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back and we're bad.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back, so good news.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this actually was from the middle of July, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make sure that we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The murderer of Oshay Sibley was sentenced finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Anosha of course, killed for dancing Yeah, at a

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<v Speaker 1>gas station in Brooklyn. Dmitri Popov hurled homophobic and anti

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<v Speaker 1>black slurs during the attack on Thursday. The victim's family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends remembered him in court as a vibrant young

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<v Speaker 1>man who moved to New York to pursue his dreams

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<v Speaker 1>before the judge handed down the sentence. Yeah. Last month,

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<v Speaker 1>a jury found him guilty of manslaughter as a hate crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sentenced to twenty years in prison, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just me. He was seventeen at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that he killed Osha, who was twenty eight. Yep, so

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years yeah, okay, not enough. But he was a black, gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Man and a fabulous dancer enjoying a summer evening. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing when they were pomping, also bumping

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<v Speaker 2>the Beyonce Renaissance album, So I know they were cutting

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<v Speaker 2>up in vogueing and I know they look fabulous because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they were them.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the problem? Yeah, exactly, what was the problem?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>But we had to interject hate and homophobia, I'm sure, no,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of racism, right, yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Justice for Osha.

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<v Speaker 1>That is why this is in good news, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know that is finally over and justice is finally served. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, after he passed away that night happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be Beyonce's show at New Jersey's MetLife Stadium, and after

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<v Speaker 2>It was the whole thing is like a black page

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<v Speaker 2>with just his name in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest in power, yeah, ohha, simply yeah yeah, yep. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that it was seen and charged as a hate

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<v Speaker 1>crime because it was Yep, it really was okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>for some well, I want to say, for some bizarre reason,

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<v Speaker 1>but anytime I'm talking about Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is in himself a bizarre reason.

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<v Speaker 1>He made insulting comments about Dylan mulvaney at the White

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<v Speaker 1>House Press dinner, which is apparently turned into just an

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<v Speaker 1>but her response was kind of classy and fun.

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<v Speaker 2>He brought her up for no reason out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of right, the way he does with trans people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to mention the trainees. Let me throw that

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<v Speaker 1>in there. He the funck den, he say. He compared

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<v Speaker 1>her to CNN correspondent Caitlin Collins.

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<v Speaker 2>Who before his speech had won an award for her

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<v Speaker 2>reporting on Trump's meeting with Ukraine President Zelenski. Right, and so,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I thought Caitlin had really made it big

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<v Speaker 2>with a major new sponsorship. But then I informed her

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't her on the bud light can it

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<v Speaker 2>was Dylan mulvaney.

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<v Speaker 1>What yeah, which he just yeah said, right, exactly yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In a four minute video posted online, mulvaney congratulated Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged her to keep up the great work, and said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm incredibly honored to be compared to her in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she had been flying under the radar,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping up a pretty low.

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<v Speaker 2>Profile except for starring in Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the infamous bud light incident. Yet I am still

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<v Speaker 1>his topic of conversation all these years later, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that I might be like the one

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<v Speaker 1>that got away for these men. Ooh, like I am

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<v Speaker 1>permanently burned into their retinas. I am microchipped into their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe being publicly mocked and criticized by this administration is

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<v Speaker 1>actually like the greatest compliment of all because it puts

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<v Speaker 1>me in the company of some of the most brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>empathetic people in our world to day, she continued, before

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<v Speaker 1>rhetorically asking why it is so important for people like

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to try and make sure that she remains unsuccessful.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it that I have that they don't, she asks,

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<v Speaker 1>before answering, Oh, my god, freedom. I am free in

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<v Speaker 1>a way they will never have the privilege to experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wont to use their power to take away

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<v Speaker 1>my freedom. She then said that Trump and his kind

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<v Speaker 1>do understand that her freedom has zero contingency on what

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<v Speaker 1>they can provide for her because her freedom is fully

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on her own acknowledgment of her real, authentic self. Okay, ha, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. She was like, I'm still me and

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<v Speaker 2>you're still you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I win, right, exactly exactly? Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>miss smart people word. So this is fun. In a

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<v Speaker 1>recent Fox News poll, I love it when they're Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News polls right, a clear majority of voters fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>percent embraced the Democratic Party on transgender issues. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for thinking, we go right. Only forty three percent of

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<v Speaker 1>voters opted for the Republican positions. It's still too many.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is in the same survey where voters favor

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<v Speaker 1>the GOP on immigration and border security issues as well

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<v Speaker 1>as crime and national security.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was not an exceptionally or even moderately liberal

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<v Speaker 1>pool who were polled. Good to know, right, The General

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<v Speaker 1>Social Survey documents some big changes in the American public's

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<v Speaker 1>views over the last twenty years. In two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 1>Bush made opposition to gay marriage a centerpiece of his campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, since then, I guess nearly every religion

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<v Speaker 1>category has increased their support for the question if homosexual

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<v Speaker 1>couples should have the right to marry one another. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we keep going back over the same old chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good quin no one, no one's been harmed

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<v Speaker 1>the day people have been married for eleven years now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, asked and answered a long time ago, Dear God.

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<v Speaker 1>Mainline Protestants have increased their support for gay marriage over

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty years, from thirty two to seventy eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>For Catholics, the increase went from thirty seven to sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent. Over the same time period from four to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, those of other faiths jumped in supportive gay

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<v Speaker 1>marriage forty two to seventy percent. For those with no religion,

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<v Speaker 1>liberal or conservative, those numbers jumped from just under fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent to eighty one percent. What is wrong with the

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<v Speaker 1>other nineteen percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So, this article posits that on trans issues, there's another

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<v Speaker 1>reason for the change. Less than half of one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of high school athletes are transgender, while for colleges it's

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<v Speaker 1>point zero point zero zero two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's way less than one half of one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh oh, way, way way less. But some proposed

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<v Speaker 1>solutions have strangers doing gender verification on all female athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>which affects a lot more athletes as well their parents

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<v Speaker 1>and family. Given that some in our Congress refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate several major scandals involving political figures and underage girls,

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of trust concerns among parents about those who

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<v Speaker 1>may be doing the checking given oversight issues, interesting which.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been positing, like repeatedly over the past couple years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, this, John Torres is writing this about the shift.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good news. It's been happening. It's been the trend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the trend I hope to see play out in

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<v Speaker 1>the midterms. Yeah, you know, they're sick of this. People

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<v Speaker 1>are sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this and have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and have been for a long time. And just

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of the common sections because that will give

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<v Speaker 1>you a skewed view of the world, right, genuinely, seriously

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<v Speaker 1>skewed view of the world that might make you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bigger group of people than I think it

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<v Speaker 1>actually is. Yeah, because actually most people are self absorbed

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<v Speaker 1>and don't give a fuck what I'm doing. True, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're shifting. We know that they are, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>it when it's their polls right that show it even

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<v Speaker 1>among conservatives. If they weren't so slow to their own party.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not it off already, right, it's not winning

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<v Speaker 1>them anything. And how about the Epstein files. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>this could have gone in Shadenflreuda for Republicans joined Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>to defeat an effort to write Trump's transgender military restrictions

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<v Speaker 1>into federal law. The House rejected a permanent trans military

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<v Speaker 1>ban and the Defense Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote and good, we saw it coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is good. They failed narrowly, and not before

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<v Speaker 1>approving two measures targeting trans troops and their families. An

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<v Speaker 1>amendment from ARMB work that would have given Trump's executive

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<v Speaker 1>what are the force effective law failed two twelve to

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<v Speaker 1>two seventeen, a ha before Republicans joined every voting Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>and opposing it. It leaves the administration's ban in place,

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<v Speaker 1>while preserving a path for courts, Congress, or a future

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<v Speaker 1>president to reverse it.

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<v Speaker 2>You good Republicans tried to codify Trump's trans military band

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<v Speaker 2>into law. But my fellow members of the Congressional Equality

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<v Speaker 2>Caucus and I put in countless hours of work in

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<v Speaker 2>order to kill this amendment, and we were successful. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for the bipartisan vote to defeat this discriminatory amendment

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<v Speaker 2>that was a representative Mark Takano, chair of the Congressional

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<v Speaker 2>Equality Caucus.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, so some are waking up, I mean some are realizing,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's getting older, this is all getting worse. You

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<v Speaker 1>are all complicit. So you know now and again there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny ray of sun. Right, this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>them tiny ray. However, the House approved two amendments from

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Mace targeting healthcare and school athletics. Of course, one

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<v Speaker 1>would prohibit Trcare, the militarys health insurance program, from covering

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<v Speaker 1>transition related care for service members and their family members,

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<v Speaker 1>including HRT, puberty blockers, and surgeries. What a count. Sparta

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<v Speaker 1>Pride said the provision would deny medically necessary care to

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<v Speaker 1>military families and could leave transgender troops without treatment even

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<v Speaker 1>if open service is restored. Right, so you can serve,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't have healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, give it and take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the second would ban transgender girls from competing

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<v Speaker 1>on girls teams in Defense Department schools. Yeah. The amendment

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<v Speaker 1>defines eligibility according to reproductive biold, but does not say

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<v Speaker 1>house schools would verify students part always Yeah. Sparta Pride,

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<v Speaker 1>which advocates for transgender people in the military, warned that

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement could create serious privacy risks for military children. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that they play with the military, support the troops.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile they're weakening the entire thing. Oh yeah, like how

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to weaken our military and weaken our standing

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<v Speaker 2>on the global stage at the same time. But call

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<v Speaker 2>yourself strong. That don't even work.

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<v Speaker 1>There are thousands of service members with transgender children who

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<v Speaker 1>now have to face whether or not they should stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the military as the government they serve discriminates against

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<v Speaker 1>their kids. Yep, m hm, yeah, yeah, there it is, there,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I'm weary and this is good news, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still in fucking good news, right, and I'm sad

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<v Speaker 1>just because yeah one good too bad. That's the dance

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing these days. I do want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania has ended criminal penalties for

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<v Speaker 1>people living with HIV. They have never served an effective

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement purpose, and at the end of July they

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<v Speaker 1>stopped it. He signed legislation the end of July ending

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<v Speaker 1>enhanced criminal penalties for people living with h IVY. It

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<v Speaker 1>removes HIV from the state's criminal code, yes, which previously

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<v Speaker 1>allowed those charged with crimes like prostitution to face harsher

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<v Speaker 1>criminal penalties if they are HIV positive. So we know

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<v Speaker 1>when these things were written. While most offenders charged with

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<v Speaker 1>prostitution and related crimes in Pennsylvania faced misdemeanor charges prior

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<v Speaker 1>to this bill being signed, those living with HIV could

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<v Speaker 1>be charged with a felony punishable by up to seven

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison, regardless of whether they used condoms or

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<v Speaker 1>if their viral load made it impossible for them to

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<v Speaker 1>transmit the virus. It didn't matter. Yeah, these were. These

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<v Speaker 1>state laws proliferated in the nineteen nineties and some before,

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<v Speaker 1>but after Congress passed the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency Act, which linked HIV and AIDS treatment and prevention

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<v Speaker 1>funding to laws that criminalized knowingly exposing others to the

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<v Speaker 1>virus through sexual activity. While Congress removed most of those

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<v Speaker 1>swunding requirements from the Ryan White Act in the year

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, twenty six, states still have laws on the

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<v Speaker 1>books criminalizing transmission of or perceived exposure to HIV and

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<v Speaker 1>or laws mandating HIV specific sentence enhancements, including four where

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<v Speaker 1>such laws may require sex offender register.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean advocates have long criticized these laws as

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<v Speaker 1>misguided and ineffective. Philadelphia Fight Chief Medical Officer, doctor j

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<v Speaker 1>Costman said laws criminalizing those living with HIV only led

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<v Speaker 1>to further stigmatization. That stigma discouraged people from getting tested

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<v Speaker 1>and treated, fueling the epidemic, particularly among marginalized populations. Facts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we know today that when people living with HIV are

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<v Speaker 1>taking medications and have an undetectable level of virus in

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<v Speaker 1>their blood, they can't transmit the virus to other people. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no scientific basis for criminalizing HIV. Boom yay and

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<v Speaker 1>In a statement on July twenty sixth, Tito Valdez, the

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<v Speaker 1>director of LGBT Affairs with the Philadelphia Department of Public Health,

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<v Speaker 1>look at him doing stuff. I know it's like well anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>called the signing an important step toward ending outdated policies

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in fear and stigma rather than science. No one

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<v Speaker 1>should face harsher treatment under the law because they were

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<v Speaker 1>living with HIV. We applaud Governor Shapiro and the advocates

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<v Speaker 1>who worked for years to make this change possible and

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<v Speaker 1>remain committed to advancing policies that promote dignity, equity, and

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<v Speaker 1>public health for all Philadelphians. Comments from the Mayor's office

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. I know, I know how about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when we used to have them. I almost forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that was a thing that happened. I know, how about it? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Go teeto, right, So I want to really quickly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go right into the segment we like to call

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<v Speaker 1>employer people taking pleasure real Maine. So this is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>This just came out today, Yeah, reading out a Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>World geno seegers won't be joining Hadestown after all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just days after it was announced that Disney star whatever

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<v Speaker 1>his name is, would join Hadestown along with other cast

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<v Speaker 1>changes in September, the production has announced that he will

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<v Speaker 1>no longer be joining the show. The announcement of his

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<v Speaker 1>casting was met with a backlash from fans of the

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<v Speaker 1>show YEP, after viewing the performer's past statements on transgender

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<v Speaker 1>people and other social issues. YEP. He had previously posted

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube videos now deleted, targeting the transgender community, including video

632
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<v Speaker 1>titles such as trans Fairness and no More Trans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm sorry, motherfucker, you want to be going Broadway?

634
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<v Speaker 1>I know right of all places. A short statement reads,

635
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<v Speaker 1>the producers of Hadestown and Geno Seegers have mutually agreed

636
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<v Speaker 1>that mister Siegers will no longer join the Broadway production.

637
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<v Speaker 1>Additional casting will be announced shortly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was supposed to play Hades.

639
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah hm he was. Hell now yeah, you know, you know,

640
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 1>fuck around and find out. Okay, yep, good good, I

641
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 1>got not good.

642
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<v Speaker 2>Good, sorry about it. Yeah, I would have watched your mouth.

643
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You should have. You should have and and the Internet

644
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:38.280
<v Speaker 1>is forever friend.

645
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I know, think before you hit sin people.

646
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I thank you Broadway for being Broadway in

647
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that part, yeah, because because that would be ridiculous, and

648
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, just nip it in the bud, which they did, yeah,

649
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>which they did. So an anti transactivist what a title

650
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 1>lied about a trans athlete injuring cis women because that's

651
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>almost always a lie, right and they spelled it like anyway.

652
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Now she has to pay the price. Kirilee Smith admitted

653
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.639
<v Speaker 1>in court she didn't have any evidence to back up

654
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>her claim about a trans woman injuring to SIS women.

655
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, this is Australia. And she lost her appeal

656
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>on an unlawful vilification ruling. So now she has to

657
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>pay ninety five thousand dollars in damages and to issue

658
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a public apology to the two trans women she targeted.

659
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<v Speaker 2>Good, exactly good.

660
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm so tired of liars.

661
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I know.

662
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Really she is actually the CEO of the anti LGBTQ

663
00:43:53.880 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>plus organization Binary Australia. Shut the fucko. And she posted

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<v Speaker 1>pictures in twenty twenty three of Riley Dennis, a trans woman,

665
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<v Speaker 1>playing on a semi pro soccer team in New South Wales,

666
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the state that includes Sydney. She claimed that Dennis was

667
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a man appropriating womanhood and that she had injured two

668
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>SIS women during a match so badly that they were

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<v Speaker 1>both hospitalized. The claim wasn't true, and Smith would later

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<v Speaker 1>admit in court that she had no evidence for the

671
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 1>claim and couldn't even say when or where it supposedly

672
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>happened or who the injured women were. I didn't injure anyone,

673
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hospitalize anyone, Dennis told the local news. Smith

674
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>also posted on Twitter in twenty twenty three that she

675
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<v Speaker 1>wanted men to help her with the bloke playing on

676
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the women's team. Oh please and ignorant con Shortly after,

677
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 1>she traveled to an area on the coast with a

678
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 1>group of men impersonating trans women. Aren't they clever now,

679
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>according to the Guardian, and had them play soccer while

680
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 1>she filmed them in order to mock trans women. This

681
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>is what she does with her one life. Yeah. Men

682
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 1>started showing up to Dennis's games and posting footage of

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00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>her on social media, and Dennis told the court that

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<v Speaker 1>she feared for her safety. Of course, she did quote

685
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I just felt like there were

686
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 1>one thousand eyes on me, that every move that I

687
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>made was going to be so scrutinized. Dennis noted that

688
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't able to get a spot in the same

689
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>league the next season. She believes that was because of

690
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.519
<v Speaker 1>all the attention on her. Right, teams knew that if

691
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I was signed onto their team that it would come

692
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>with all this negative attention and it would be a

693
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>political statement that they were making, which I understand and

694
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that for any team. But at the

695
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>same time, I'm not trying to be a political statement, right.

696
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 1>We don't generally set out to be just want to

697
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 1>play the goddamn game. For some reason, a court issued

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<v Speaker 1>a restraining order against Smith in February of twenty twenty five.

699
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>She appealed, she lost. The judge at the time noted

700
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 1>that Smith's behavior was objectively threatening and disturbing. Uh huh.

701
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Later in twenty twenty five, a court found Smith's guilty

702
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of unlawful vilification. The judge also rejected Smith's defense that

703
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>she was engaged in political speech, noting that Smith misgendered

704
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and attacked Dennis in bad faith. Smith appealed and she

705
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 1>just lost that appeal. Q News reports that the appeals

706
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 1>judge made some small changes to the original verdict, but

707
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 1>kept the finding and the ninety five thousand dollars fine

708
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 1>in place. Smith and Binary Australia will also be required

709
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>to publish a court approved apology that must remain pinned

710
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>on their social media channels for three months.

711
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Ha ha, that's what you get. That's what you get.

712
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

713
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They always have to make shit up to make

714
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>their little points.

715
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love it when common sense and justice Actually

716
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>when yep, and that's going to be pinned to their ugly,

717
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 1>foul lying probably website for three months. And that's what

718
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 1>we call shine employer people taking pleasure real name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay. I'll take whatever we can get.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we take a break, I already know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this question, but would you like to share

722
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen minute phase? I would? What you guy?

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00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So, the fabulous and wonderful Spilata, Yes, who already has

724
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>a song on the fifteen minute phase playlist, has got

725
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 2>another one because he released another song. I'm sensing a trend.

726
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I am too. I don't if he thought about you

727
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>when I released sharing anyway.

728
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 2>So the song is called Haiku and it is upbeat

729
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and jazzy and klubby. And my favorite thing is that

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<v Speaker 2>each verse, and there are many, each verse of this

731
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>song is in what form haiku? It's true. Haiku is

732
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese style of poetry where there are three lines.

733
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<v Speaker 2>The first one is five syllables, the second is seven syllables,

734
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<v Speaker 2>and then the third is five syllables. Yep, it's I

735
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>love Haiku's It's very specific. You have to be very

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<v Speaker 2>intentional about the words that you choose. And he he

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<v Speaker 2>did his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's adorable. It is, it's adorable. We are going to

739
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 1>go out to the break with Haiku by Spilata, right

740
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you know we'll be right.

741
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Black time to make some art thought. I put it

742
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 3>in jazz simply for the class Haiku. Me. I'm Spilata,

743
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the one you've been waiting for. Here to give you

744
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 3>more haiku. Time to cleanse the vibe. Get this music

745
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:09.360
<v Speaker 3>back in line. It's been on deep by haiku. Yeah,

746
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I went viral one share, darling. Then it flew thank

747
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 3>you miss Badu haiku.

748
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Hiko m hm, and we're back.

749
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 2>We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire song was in haiku. It's true. Well, okay, fun,

751
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that was fun.

752
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>It gave me an idea for a little creative project.

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00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, loving Spilada once again. Oh yeah, we should chat

754
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>with them one day. Yeah, you should have a kiki.

755
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely gonna hit him up and let him know

756
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that he made the fifteen minute fave again.

757
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, do it. But it's time for the cavalcade. Nonsense.

758
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, we don't have to do anything but die,

759
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and I guess pay taxes.

760
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do that either.

761
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely don't want to pay taxes. I don't

762
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like where my tax dollars are going at all, and

763
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I'm getting much representation these days, right,

764
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and didn't we I don't know, dump stuff into the

765
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 1>water for nowurisation without representation.

766
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And now that non representation is dumping other stuff in

767
00:51:58.320 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>the water.

768
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Funny that it was tea. So that's where do we

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00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>start here. There was a deadly Berlin Pride attack which

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00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 1>we know of. The suspect was killed in a confrontation

771
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 1>with police. The mess left one person dead by twenty

772
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>nine injured and he was shot and killed by police

773
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and during a confrontation in a suburb of the city. Yeah,

774
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>he was killed following a search that lasted nearly twenty

775
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>four hours. He had previously sought to join the militant

776
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Islamic State.

777
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Group, which they loved to latch onto.

778
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He is suspected of driving a van into a

779
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>crowd near Berlin's Pride festival Saturday night, before apparently stabbing

780
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>others with a machete. Jesus in what authorities believe was

781
00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 1>an Islamic extremist terror attack, saying is the nonsense part? Yeah,

782
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean good that they got him, that it happened,

783
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jesus Christ. These people have no life, for real,

784
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>How do we get them? One spend like the next one,

785
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I like.

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00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.760
<v Speaker 2>You spend so much time focusing on things that have

787
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with you, then you have to make

788
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>up a whole like scenario to justify all the time

789
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 2>in brain space you've been attributing to it, and then

790
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you make it more important than it is. And then

791
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 2>this is what happened.

792
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am hmm, that's all. I got much else news.

793
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Now it happened. It sucked. They killed the dudes who

794
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 1>drove the van, and that was that. Yeah, So let's

795
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 1>look about Michelle Visage.

796
00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>So Michelle Visage has been the face of prep education

797
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>for at least the better part of this past year.

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00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's being the face of prep. I just never mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said education.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, she's been doing commercials for a good

801
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 2>minute of seeing them on Pluto TV, right, and she

802
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 2>has a new one, and you know she never mentions

803
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 2>HIV sex any of that.

804
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 1>She actually doesn't.

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00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 2>It's for people that need to know, and you know

806
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.199
<v Speaker 2>what prep is if you need to know.

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00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>However, however, one million Moms is about thirty seven frigid

808
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>bitches raising.

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00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's not alliterative.

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00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So you can't really blame them because their husband thins

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00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>are gay, which explains so much. And they're fucking each other.

812
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think they started a new gym. Anyway,

813
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 1>they're raging more on that later over campaign urging people

814
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 1>to educate themselves about the HIV prevention medication long acting

815
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 1>injectable prep. Yes, they aired the commercial on TV Land, right,

816
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 1>which you know, aren't they the ones they rebroadcast like

817
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 1>all the fifties and sixties wholesome sitcoms, that whole thing

818
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and so all of these chad wives, you know, addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>They declared is no place for edgy programming. First, the

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00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:48.559
<v Speaker 1>only think edgy is Michelle's wig, which is a bit much.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, wait till they hear about almost all

822
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 2>the actors who played the husbands on those shows.

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00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 1>God, I know both, It's true both Darren's Darren's every

824
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 1>uncle on The Witched, the Brady Bond anyway, I guess

825
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.639
<v Speaker 1>because it features Michelle Vissage.

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00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.679
<v Speaker 2>They automatically associate her with faggotry.

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00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Which kids aren't that busy though, you know, I mean

828
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 1>their kids are. God, these people, I want them to

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00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 1>have a life. I want them to marry straight men

830
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>who want to fuck them. I just I want them

831
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<v Speaker 1>to have more right, so they'll leave us the fuck alone.

832
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it doesn't even mention sex or HIV specifically.

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00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>It assumes the viewer already knows the basic concept right

834
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of long acting injectable prep. Vissage merely explains the kinds

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00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>of questions folks interested in taking the medication should ask

836
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>their doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so one million Moms believes that children who

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<v Speaker 2>see the ad will be immediately corrupted. First of all,

839
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<v Speaker 2>they would be.

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00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 1>What are they talking about, mommy?

841
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<v Speaker 2>And how do I get some? Right? They would be educated,

842
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't be.

843
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Correct juice bop candy?

844
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine what SA right? Can you imagine what

845
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>goes through the mind of a child, tween or teen

846
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 2>when seeing this ad? A parent never expects to discuss it.

847
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I have to pee, I want some popcorn? Right, it's

848
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a commercial.

849
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:33.719
<v Speaker 2>A parent never expects to discuss sexuality or homo sexuality

850
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>while sitting at home enjoying family time. Maybe not in

851
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 2>your house is on the website. Ironically, there are acronym

852
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 2>spells oh, which is funny because these bitches need to

853
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 2>relax they do. It then asks people to sign a

854
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>petition to TV Land stating that the ad is unacceptable.

855
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Around seven thousand people have signed I am extremely disappointed

856
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 2>that TV Land is currently airing commercials for prep Wisdom,

857
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a campaign targeting the prevention of HIV through sexual activity.

858
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 2>The petition states these inappropriate ads are highly irresponsible.

859
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Now they're actually responsible exactly.

860
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like, think about what you're saying, how dare you

861
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 2>try and save lives?

862
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 1>And maybe just maybe they're trying to figure out how

863
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to reach your husband well, and they thought maybe he

864
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>was sitting there watching tv Land with you rather than

865
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 1>out fucking his boyfriend, so they tried it. I mean,

866
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 1>public health is really their number one concern, just saying

867
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 1>how do we reach the down low?

868
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking of when we were watching Ain't Misbehaving,

869
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was thinking of the song. Find out what

870
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>they like and how they like it, and let them

871
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>have it just that way. So in this case that

872
00:58:58.320 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 2>would be pegging.

873
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 1>At least, But sometimes they just want to you know.

874
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 2>This stick on mustache itches.

875
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same as when Haraldo does.

876
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to find a lifelike mask

877
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>of Mateo Lane.

878
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, you're too hippy and too lippy, and you

879
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 1>don't swallow, which is probably why Michelle Visage's presence upsets

880
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you to such a degree. Oh my god, I mean,

881
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why they put it on TV Land.

882
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of another reason. I guess Hoppy wasn't

883
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 1>home watching with you. I no, No, If your man

884
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 1>gets gets all sweaty and gets up and leaves in

885
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a huff, it's not because he's offended by Michelle.

886
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not like that. Reminds me, I'm running low.

887
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That was close to home one minute.

888
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I got to run to the store and get a

889
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:12.159
<v Speaker 2>pack of cigarettes. I'll be back in an hour and

890
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:12.559
<v Speaker 2>a half.

891
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 1>As if those men have sex responsibly. Oh good god. Anyway,

892
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>so the Right, here's here's our theme, making shit up, eh,

893
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Because boy don't they the right is so hungry for

894
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 1>anti trans stories, is that they're turning to AI to

895
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>make them up.

896
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 2>So now we're balluting the water with our nonsense.

897
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.000
<v Speaker 1>All the fish are dying because you have to make

898
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>shut up. Several non stories that portray trans people in

899
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 1>a negative light have gone viral in the past several weeks,

900
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 1>and others were completely fabricated.

901
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:53.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not even good AI.

902
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they've been ginning our patriot against trans people

903
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>for years, as we know, in order to pass bands

904
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on sports and gender. Anything but the Epstein Files, anything

905
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.760
<v Speaker 1>but them. What the what is this show I was

906
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:11.599
<v Speaker 1>just watching on on on Hulu Betrayal, Betrayal. I mean

907
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it's all the married Christian CIS white men who did

908
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Ale kids. Yep, they even have a TV show to

909
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you what's going on now. But yeah, let's fuck

910
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>with the trans people. So anyway, the people who are

911
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>doing that are are using AI to create fiction, because

912
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that's all they got. The right clearly wants people to

913
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 1>get angry, dropping words like creepy into their stories about

914
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:49.480
<v Speaker 1>them and complaining about taxpayer dollars going toward woke, even

915
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 1>if their arguments about the funding make little sense.

916
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Wait they did they used woke as a noun.

917
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They want people to be mad at

918
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.599
<v Speaker 1>trans people, even though there is not much left to

919
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>get mad about. War on woke. Well, these recent stories

920
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 1>all have in common another thing. It's that they're not news.

921
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Woke is not a now.

922
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 1>They don't involve anyone being harmed, they don't involve elected

923
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 1>officials or celebrities. They're not even originating in local news

924
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 1>sources that might be interested in them because they tell

925
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 1>locals about events happening around them. Several originated in UK media,

926
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.559
<v Speaker 1>and we're almost immediately picked up by us outts hungry

927
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 1>for something to be mad about. Isn't that that should

928
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just be their campaigns? Well, they are literally creating shit

929
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 1>to be mad about. Sometimes there's an AI watermark, but

930
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there isn't. It is unclear how much of an

931
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 1>appetite the public has for this sort of hate propaganda.

932
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 1>The public has made it clear that they just plane

933
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think about trans people as much as Republicans do. No,

934
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't, we don't, even for Christ's sake. Surveys have

935
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 1>shown that while voters aren't supportive of trans rates across

936
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the board, their votes are unlikely to be swayed by

937
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 1>translates issues. More on that later anyway. Anyway, it's just

938
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 1>frustrating because this is what they do. I mean, it's

939
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.840
<v Speaker 1>what they do. They're creating videos for people to get

940
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>mad at so they can get mad at trans people,

941
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.199
<v Speaker 1>so that they can join the fight against people that

942
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 1>are harming you. So you don't pay attention to Billy Bob,

943
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 1>your son's coach, who By the way.

944
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 2>It makes me think of that meme where it's a

945
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 2>picture of a kid screaming with a boot on his neck,

946
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and then it zooms out and he's got his own

947
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 2>hand in the boot, pressing it into his own neck.

948
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, yeah, that one. I love that one. It's

949
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 1>like that.

950
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a metaphor.

951
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 1>It's like the keep going Christian food bank shelves are

952
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 1>empty right after a pastor rejects supplies from LGBTQ plus allies.

953
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 1>This pisses me off. Yeah, really, A West Virginia food

954
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>bank shelves are bear after refusing supplies from organizations that

955
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:36.679
<v Speaker 1>are allegedly part of the gay rights movement because they

956
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 1>support LGBTQ plus. People starve them, right, they would rather

957
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 1>people starve that.

958
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, because Jesus loves you.

959
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Or something. Wait, this is a quote. Wait. Wait to

960
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>let you know. The reason why we're in this position

961
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:03.559
<v Speaker 1>is because I done some research. I made the phone calls.

962
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I talked to the proper people, said pastor Alvin Christian

963
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:17.519
<v Speaker 1>really in a sense deleted Facebook live video, are y'all

964
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>tied in or partners with LGBQT whatever.

965
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I knew that wasn't going and they said yes.

966
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd done some more research and they said yes, sorry,

967
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that was still him. I'd done some more research and

968
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 1>found out that they are part of the gay rights movement.

969
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 1>He runs the Gods store House food bank in Bluefield,

970
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, poorly, which until recently was serving over eight

971
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:54.079
<v Speaker 1>hundred families daily and eight thousand unique families every month

972
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:58.840
<v Speaker 1>across four Virginia and West Virginia counties. But in a

973
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 1>video which was archived by another Facebook user, Christian shows bearshells,

974
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 1>he notes that he's had a lot of messages and

975
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of concerns wondering when and why we haven't

976
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 1>given out food. As you can see, our cupboards are empty,

977
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.480
<v Speaker 1>our frasers are empty. We have nothing in the warehouse

978
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>as far as food wise as of this.

979
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Moment, because but fuck them faggots though.

980
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Because it was dick sucking food, we don't use that.

981
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.599
<v Speaker 2>It sticks to your tonsils.

982
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.920
<v Speaker 1>He makes a clear connection between his face and his

983
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>decision to reject food supplies from organizations that support the

984
01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:03.480
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus community. Well as a man of God and

985
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 1>standing in face with God, I refuse to receive food

986
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 1>from anybody that is tied into that. I make a

987
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.519
<v Speaker 1>stand right here, right now. That's why we haven't had

988
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:22.199
<v Speaker 1>no food here in a while, because I will not

989
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 1>be part of a gay rights movement. Because the America

990
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is partnered up. Feeding America's the group with them, and

991
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I will not be with them. Feeding America is a nonprofit,

992
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:43.719
<v Speaker 1>nationwide network of food banks that tried to give this

993
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.159
<v Speaker 1>jerk off food. He then goes as far as to

994
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 1>call gay people an abomination, the ones who tried to

995
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:58.039
<v Speaker 1>offer food. I refuse to be tied to something of

996
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that nature. That's totally an abomination against God.

997
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 2>God said to feed the hungry.

998
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I no, he missed that part well. He appears to

999
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.039
<v Speaker 1>be punishing the local needy because of the perceived sin

1000
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.159
<v Speaker 1>of his supplier. He wants to make it clear that

1001
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he does not discriminate. Now hear this. I will not

1002
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:27.239
<v Speaker 1>turn anybody away. You've got no food, Jack, guess. I

1003
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 1>will not discriminate against anybody.

1004
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I will be honest.

1005
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I will love you the same, I will pray for you.

1006
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I will give you food if I got it.

1007
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 2>But it don't, butter don't because I'm a dickhead.

1008
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 1>The fuck.

1009
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't even call it logic.

1010
01:08:52.920 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 1>There is none. There is none. Yeah, he is searching

1011
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>for a new food supplier who is not associated with

1012
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:10.000
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus people. Much of that hope seems to rest

1013
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on God handling it for him. Capis in your prayers.

1014
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Pray that God will open another door because the food

1015
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:22.439
<v Speaker 1>belongs to him anyway. Well, then why didn't you accept it?

1016
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:27.720
<v Speaker 1>If it belongs to God anyone, sweetie, why not take

1017
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it and feed people, which is the only fucking reason

1018
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you exist in the first goddamn place. You're a food

1019
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

1020
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Cut to two months when everyone wants a dick in

1021
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 2>their mill because at least it's something, because they're so hungry.

1022
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:49.399
<v Speaker 1>It's protein. Oh my God. Always remember all you need

1023
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 1>is faith in God. I hope you starve to Oh

1024
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.399
<v Speaker 1>they will. I hope he does. I hope he does.

1025
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 2>We'll see who means it.

1026
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Sad for the people that were counting on his ministry,

1027
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.439
<v Speaker 1>which is clearly conditional. I thought the whole Christian thing

1028
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:11.640
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be unconditional. Jesus the worst.

1029
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, you better hope that whoever makes the aspirin doesn't

1030
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:19.600
<v Speaker 2>support the lgbdkeys.

1031
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't care. I hope they do. I mean

1032
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I want gay aspirin.

1033
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 2>There's an anal option.

1034
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I won't pay sexual ibuprofen.

1035
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it cures everything.

1036
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And in case you were wondering, once again, why we

1037
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:46.399
<v Speaker 1>say stay away from hobby Lobby, they're funding the latest

1038
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:50.520
<v Speaker 1>push to end marriage equality, Thank you very much. Conservatives

1039
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 1>announced a new campaign in January to end marriage rights

1040
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.960
<v Speaker 1>for same sex couples. It turns out it's getting money

1041
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>from Hobby Lobby's founder, a group of forty seven anti

1042
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus organizations. They organize around us, around hating us.

1043
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 1>That is what they organize around, Like, really, people, you

1044
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:21.640
<v Speaker 1>need a better hobby. The campaign, called Greater Than a

1045
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 1>response to the push for equality by claiming that straight

1046
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:29.800
<v Speaker 1>people are greater than queer people. Oh know, they immediately

1047
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:33.279
<v Speaker 1>got the media's attention. The Seattle Times has revealed that

1048
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a key organization behind the Greater Than campaign is being

1049
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:42.920
<v Speaker 1>funded by the conservative Christian business Hobby Lobby, the same

1050
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.399
<v Speaker 1>business that got the Supreme Court to rule in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen that for profit corporations don't have to pay for

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01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:54.239
<v Speaker 1>employees healthcare that covers contraception if that contraception goes against

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01:11:54.319 --> 01:12:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the corporation's religious beliefs. K Faust is the founder and

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01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 1>president of them before US, an organization devoted to ending

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01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:14.399
<v Speaker 1>marriage rights for same sex couples in the US. Faust's

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01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 1>mother is a lesbian who came out after marrying Faust's father,

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01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and her parents divorced when she was ten, So we

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01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.079
<v Speaker 1>have longand daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that her name is Faust is so ironic.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>She converted to Christianity of years later, when she was

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01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 1>in high school. She insists that she didn't devote her

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01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:38.279
<v Speaker 1>life to attacking al rights out of some kind of

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01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 1>resentment towards her mother. Yeah, yeah, did, although she now

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01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 1>says she no longer considers her mother a parent. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. She's been campaigning against marriage rights since at

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<v Speaker 1>least twenty twelve, when she started a blog called ask

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01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the Bigot. Oh It's funny gets you? Oh, I get it.

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01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:02.039
<v Speaker 1>A website she claimed would the notion that marriage rights

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01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:07.560
<v Speaker 1>opponents are bigots.

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<v Speaker 2>But your Yeah, I know, but now I have a headache.

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01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. She saw an opportunity for a renewed push

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<v Speaker 1>after the Supreme Court overturned federal reproduction rates protections guaranteed

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01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:24.399
<v Speaker 1>and Rovy Wade in twenty twenty two, and this recent

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01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:27.800
<v Speaker 1>push is getting more funding than before US was founded

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01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. SIRS report shows that it received less

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01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.800
<v Speaker 1>than fifty thousand revenue for its first few years of

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01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 1>operation before Rowe was overturned. In twenty twenty two, it

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01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>received two hundred thousand and twenty twenty four that became

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01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:47.760
<v Speaker 1>nearly a million, and Foust collected a salary of one

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01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:54.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty five thousand dollars then before US. This

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01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 1>filing show with three hundred thousand dollars donation from the

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01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Servant Foundation, a Christian organization funded by Hobby Lobby's founder

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01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.159
<v Speaker 1>David Green and his family.

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01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's the same organization behind those he gets us

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01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 2>ads about Jesus that ran during the twenty twenty four

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01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and five I knew it. I knew it.

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01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh Hobby Lobby. Oh my god, in part Hobby Lobby.

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01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 1>How's that? Yeah? So, oh my god, I knew it.

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01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Go to Michael's for Christ's sake. Yes, go to Michaels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Now I need one of them. Queerbew profens,

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01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 2>because say I.

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01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Need here too. I am this bitch, Fouls claims that

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01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:55.119
<v Speaker 1>marriage equality has made children's lives worse, contrary to what

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01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:56.800
<v Speaker 1>social science says on the matter.

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01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we don't go for that fancy book right now.

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01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.720
<v Speaker 1>She's Saturday March, uncloseted media interview that there is no

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01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.600
<v Speaker 1>right to adopt, but that children have a natural right

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01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to be known and loved by their mother and father,

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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.479
<v Speaker 1>even if daddy loves them in inappropriate ways. I just

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01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I add at that part, I hate them the stupid

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01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:28.439
<v Speaker 1>it burns. Yeah. Democratic Ohio governor candidate Amy Acton scheduled

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01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:33.479
<v Speaker 1>a meeting with LGBTQ plus advocates and then didn't show up.

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01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh and by the way, she kicked out trans people

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01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.119
<v Speaker 1>who did. The meeting was supposed to be Acting's way

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01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:44.800
<v Speaker 1>of making up for calling trans girls boys. This is

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01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the Democrat. This is the Democrat running for governor. M Yeah,

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01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:55.880
<v Speaker 1>she has seen her relationship with a queer community go

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01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 1>from bad to catastrophic. Weeks after she endorsed a transgender

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01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:06.359
<v Speaker 1>sports ban and called transgender girls boys. The fallout has

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01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:10.560
<v Speaker 1>been intense. The Ohio Democratic Party forced its own Progressive

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01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and Pride caucuses to delete their criticism. Really, yeah, the party.

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01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>This is July nineteenth, banned criticism of Amy Acting calling

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01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:31.319
<v Speaker 1>trans girls boys wow, wow wow. She declared she would

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01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.840
<v Speaker 1>enforce Ohio sports ban, which she cast as a matter

1116
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of fairness and kids health and safely the fuck up. Yeah,

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01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:43.039
<v Speaker 1>she sounds like Gavin Newsom. The rebuke from her own

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01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:48.920
<v Speaker 1>party was severe. The Ohio Democrats Progressive Caucus, an official

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01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 1>advisory group of the state party, issued a blistering, pagelong statement,

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01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:57.000
<v Speaker 1>declaring that its members were now less willing to door

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01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:02.359
<v Speaker 1>knock for her before the post puzzling vanished shortly thereafter,

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01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:07.720
<v Speaker 1>prompting days of questions about why criticism of Actin's anti

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01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 1>transtance had been scrubbed. After prodding by Erin in the morning,

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01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the caucus revealed the answer. The Ohio Democratic Party itself

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01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:22.439
<v Speaker 1>demanded the criticism be removed, effectively barring those within the

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01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>party from publicly critiquing a major candidate's transphobia. I hate

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01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:34.479
<v Speaker 1>it here, so do I. So this was the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>where I guess we're all gonna make nice, which I

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01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.079
<v Speaker 1>don't see how you do. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was a zoom meeting, was it?

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01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Let me say? A meeting? The campaign promised would begin

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01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.520
<v Speaker 1>repairing the damage, instead further inflame tensions inside. Sources who

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01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:57.800
<v Speaker 1>have gone public now say the listening session was a debacle.

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01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Actin did not show up. Her campaign manager barred Arian Childream,

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01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:07.319
<v Speaker 1>vice chair of the party's Pride Caucus, a transgender candidate

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01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:10.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Ohio House, and Ohio's first openly trans city

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01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>council member, from even entering the zoom call okay, so

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01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.880
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't let her in where they didn't. When another advocate

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01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:22.479
<v Speaker 1>demanding to know why Childrey was barred, she was ejected.

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01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:27.119
<v Speaker 1>The chair of the Progressive Caucus, Kim McCarthy, was locked

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01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in the waiting room during the entire listening session, and

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01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:34.079
<v Speaker 1>in the end, the campaign ultimately refused to apologize for

1143
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.840
<v Speaker 1>calling trans girls boys, refused to retract Acton's support for

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01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 1>a transgender sports ban, and ended the meeting with no

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01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.479
<v Speaker 1>plans for what comes next.

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01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So they were just doing it because they were told

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01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to do something. They had no plan to do anything

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01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:53.399
<v Speaker 2>progressive or have any solutions.

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01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Or Childre said, myself and a number of other LGBTQ

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01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:02.520
<v Speaker 1>plus leaders were refused entry into a meeting we had

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01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 1>been invited to attend. One trans advocate, Sarah Keaton, was

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01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:10.840
<v Speaker 1>booted from the meeting entirely just for pointing out the

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01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:14.920
<v Speaker 1>campaign's refusal to allow transleaders into the room when we

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01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.840
<v Speaker 1>were digitally locked out. It took the chair of the

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01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Pride Caucus calling my personal phone and putting me on

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01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>live speakerphone inside the room just for my voice to

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01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:28.880
<v Speaker 1>be heard. According to notes obtained from a source who

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01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 1>attended the meeting, the session opened with a blow Dwayne

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01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Steward of Equality Ohio reading what appeared to be a

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01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:43.479
<v Speaker 1>prepared statement announcing the organization was rescinding Acton's a rating

1161
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on its LGBTQ Plus candidate scorecard. This is not about punishment,

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01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 1>but partnership, he said. Harm has been done. Attacking trans

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01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 1>people isn't just wrong, it is a losing strategy and

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01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:04.439
<v Speaker 1>it is idiot. From there, the meeting devolved. Multiple attendees

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01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.319
<v Speaker 1>demandaged to know why Childry had been barred from an

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01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:13.119
<v Speaker 1>event about the LGBTQ plus community. Campaign manager Philip Stein

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01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.079
<v Speaker 1>responded only that the meeting was mostly a space we

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<v Speaker 1>want to listen to the folks that we picked here.

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01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:24.920
<v Speaker 1>When pressed on why the event, I swear to christ

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01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:31.479
<v Speaker 1>and they're not Republicans. A oh my god. When pressed

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01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:34.359
<v Speaker 1>on why the event had been titled a conversation rather

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01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:38.159
<v Speaker 1>than a one way listening session. Stein conceded that running

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01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>this kind of meeting was not his area of expertise,

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01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and that he could only apologize for the way that

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01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the event was titled, So it was never meant to

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01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:56.159
<v Speaker 1>be a conversation, you dirty bitches. In the aftermath of

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01:20:56.199 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 1>the meeting, multiple attendees went public with their accounts say

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. I could not have prepared myself for

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01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the sheer contempt the campaign's staff demonstrated toward Pride and

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01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Progressive Caucus leaders and the hundreds of grassroots constituents we

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01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>represent when they kicked the Pride Caucus vice chairwoman from

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01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the meeting without a chance to speak. It was as

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01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:24.640
<v Speaker 1>shocking as watching a friend be physically assaulted in front

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01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:28.039
<v Speaker 1>of me. I mean, when they retaliated against our trans

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01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:32.239
<v Speaker 1>rights advocate for the crime of demanding an explanation. I

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01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:36.319
<v Speaker 1>was forced to abandon hope of rationalizing the original Act

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01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and recognized it for what it was, intentional targeted suppression

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01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of minorities, a preview into a future act, and administration

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01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>drunk with power, unbeholden to the people, believe you know,

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01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>believing behind closed doors it is safe to shed its sheepskin.

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01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Well you know what, ooh, you know what, Republicans are

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01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>not going to reward her for baseline levels of transphobia.

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01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>The Republican opponement, I believe, will run ads against her

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01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>when any number of trans issues regardless. What this anti

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01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:23.239
<v Speaker 1>trans turn does is depressed turnout among Ohio's LGBTQ plus

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01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>voters and allies in a race separated by less than

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01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:30.079
<v Speaker 1>a single percentage point. She's cutting her own throat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Republican is going to win in Ohio. Yes,

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01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>she's guaranteed it. So I don't you know, I wonder

1201
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:44.199
<v Speaker 1>if that was the plan all along? Yeah? Yeah, she

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01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:48.159
<v Speaker 1>has given Ohios LGBTQ plus community every reason to believe

1203
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that she would govern exactly the way her campaign has

1204
01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>conducted itself, with the people she claims to represent locked

1205
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>in the waiting room. There you go. So that's why

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01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I was going to have a Republican governor. Yep, because

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01:23:03.399 --> 01:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats not a Democrat.

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01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>And she shot herself in the foot yep, God damn it.

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01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So I want to wrap up with those one oh

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01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:25.239
<v Speaker 1>mega men are fleeing women for all male gyms, and

1212
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:30.199
<v Speaker 1>somehow calling it straight was in the Advocate. Apparently working

1213
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.079
<v Speaker 1>out next to women is so tempting. These guys just

1214
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>have to pack into the sauna together tempting. Didn't we

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01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>call these bathhouses?

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01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I know I did. I'm like, this is not a

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01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:51.800
<v Speaker 2>new idea. Who wants to tell them? I suspect they

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01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:52.279
<v Speaker 2>already know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most commonplaces affairs and infidelity begin is

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01:23:56.439 --> 01:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the gym. Uh huh. God called meet to create a

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01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.199
<v Speaker 1>different kind of space where men can grow stronger physically

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01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:11.039
<v Speaker 1>and spiritually without the distractions of lust and temptation. Uh huh, yes,

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01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>because Christian men famously never succumbed to luster or temptation

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01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>for men, especially not at the gym.

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01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Mommy daddy goes to the gym twice a day every day.

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01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>How come he still has a gut and no ass

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01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I know his next getting bigger though? Sorry?

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01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Wow? Oh god?

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01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit?

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01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:44.239
<v Speaker 1>And why does the echo when he want.

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01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>How did you learn that, lady Gagasa?

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01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I swear I read something right after that that like

1233
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>they've already you know, banned some members for you know.

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01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Fucking in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh yeah, yeah, this is like, it's hilarious.

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01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.199
<v Speaker 2>It really really is fucking hilarious. It really really is.

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01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:26.239
<v Speaker 1>As grinder goes off, and you know, come one, boys, uh,

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01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.239
<v Speaker 1>this is the logic they use O ship.

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01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:33.079
<v Speaker 2>You know what I want to do?

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01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>This is it?

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01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I want to start like I want to

1242
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>get the grinder notification sound just isolated and just walk

1243
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>into a room full of men and just play at

1244
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>once and see how many people check their phone.

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01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a thing. It's a thing. Oh yeah, they maga.

1246
01:25:55.560 --> 01:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Men are creating bath houses for themselves to the temptation

1247
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of women, which they do anyway because they hate women.

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01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, by and large and many of them are

1249
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>not anyway anyway, that's happening.

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01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>It's happening, yo, bro, what Jim do you go to

1251
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the white swallow?

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01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's just I can't. I can't do it anymore. Take

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01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:29.199
<v Speaker 1>another break. We'll be right back and we'll cleanse ballets. Please,

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01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello everyone, Welcome to Life Spot a Song, a bi

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01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:47.119
<v Speaker 4>weekly podcast likes to live in the land of musicals.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm your host, John, and this podcast delves into musical movies,

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<v Speaker 4>musical TV shows, and sometimes filmed stage productions. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>how we watch these with a special guest or two

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<v Speaker 4>or more. Tune into your life's put a song wherever

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<v Speaker 4>you're listening to this podcast, and be sure to rate, subscribe,

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<v Speaker 4>and follow the socials at Puttasungpod and have a musical day.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. Qu're back, Cat cat pow m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you start a song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so they're canceling wonder Man, like season two is

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know there was a wonder Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder Man was great. It starred Yahya abdul Matine the

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<v Speaker 2>second and uh, you've seen his penis? Have I? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy Watchman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, remember the blue Dude, the naked blue dude with Regina.

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<v Speaker 1>King saw his dick kind of yeah, trust me. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen a lot of dick and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad passed three hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was like five years ago. I only remember

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<v Speaker 1>the one I need to remember. Well that's good a

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<v Speaker 1>married woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, good answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised that wonder Man got canceled. I'm mad,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not surprised because no, he was not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>wonder Man was about like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no season two, there is no season too.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder Man. The care briefly about, right, is he's a character.

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<v Speaker 2>He has like this superpower where like he can release

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<v Speaker 2>this energy from his body whenever he like gets stressed,

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<v Speaker 2>he can like just release any like explode shit. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the the theme of this series was basically he

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<v Speaker 2>was an actor who was trying to like make his

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<v Speaker 2>way in Hollywood mm hm, as a black man who

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to like have loftier roles than just like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hood number three on the left right, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was classically trained and he like really like cared

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<v Speaker 2>about the process and everything, but he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>keep his powers a secret because there was this rule

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood that you can't have superpowers because this one

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<v Speaker 2>dude fucked it up for everyone. So it was like

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<v Speaker 2>this interesting character study about a young actor trying to

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<v Speaker 2>like make it in Hollywood and trying to get his

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<v Speaker 2>big break and like his family getting tired of him saying,

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<v Speaker 2>my big break is coming. It's coming. I swear. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're tired of paying for shit, but I swear

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming. Like it was all this was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not coming now.

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<v Speaker 2>And it ended on a cliffhanger that yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like there was a glimmer of like hope and

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of how I knew that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, if this makes it to season two,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be thrilled and surprised. Okay, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>different kind of I didn't It was a different kind

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<v Speaker 2>of role for yah yah, and I was really enjoyed people.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people said it was boring, okay, and I get

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<v Speaker 2>it in that if you're looking for a traditional superhero

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<v Speaker 2>story where like it's flashing lights and people blowing shit

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<v Speaker 2>up in big fights. It's not that it's not. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't meant to be there. You had to like pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention and shit right there. I know, but I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting. I wasn't the only one. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a shame they love to act shit. That's good. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like eight seasons of shit on Netflix that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know was a thing until like season eight

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<v Speaker 2>premiering on Wednesday, and you're like, what the fuck what?

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard of this before.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots I haven't heard of it didn't wonder man, No,

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<v Speaker 1>idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it well, I was only watching it on

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<v Speaker 2>my lunch breaks at work, so I never like actually

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<v Speaker 2>talked to you about it. That was then, But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>One glimmer of hope came out of Cat's The Angelical Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They are releasing a cast album, yes, through Atlantic Records,

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<v Speaker 1>because that we were mentioning of all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't done or won't get to do, it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. So that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I am too.

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<v Speaker 2>Were don't play the fuck out of that because I

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<v Speaker 2>am Those children sang their faces off, and I swear

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<v Speaker 2>to god, if they have the interlude where the one

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<v Speaker 2>kid goes I thought it was cud I will fall over.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll gon find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna use it as my text message notification.

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<v Speaker 1>And final performance is still Saturday, August Ay. Yep, married everyone, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>marred everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw a video of of the cast members

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<v Speaker 2>expressing their excitement over the fact that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to do this cast album.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, sure, I love it. So The Vampireless it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we finished this the season of The Vampireless thatat

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks?

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<v Speaker 2>Same m hm. I'm excited now because they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back with the Queen of the Damned.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's returning, we think, right something Yeah, Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of the Damned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm excited and that's gonna be some ship because

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<v Speaker 2>that's when a Kasha goes rip shit riot ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's when it gets good good Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am grateful to the Vampireless that for providing

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful soundtrack, right, because that music was good, well,

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<v Speaker 2>most of that music was good. It was the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of songs. I was like, what is this bullshit?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, some of it was really good, really good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's over for now. This is all you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, for fuck's sake. So the big thing with RuPaul's

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<v Speaker 2>drag race down Under versus the world, so Australia, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the Australian Queens versus like the other franchises,

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<v Speaker 2>and raven Is was competing and it was like this

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<v Speaker 2>big thing because raven is RuPaul's makeup artist and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, well, RuPaul doesn't judge down Under anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>She passed the Reins one to Michelle Vassar, so there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a conflict of interest. And then there was a twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Raven's not a contestant, she's a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she like yeah, and everyone's like or I knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like this is dumb, like that those are the

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<v Speaker 2>three because they're trying to drum up eyes and and

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<v Speaker 2>there was like this whole thing years ago with All

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<v Speaker 2>Stars three when Bibi Zahara Binet, who won season one,

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<v Speaker 2>was a contestant and everyone was like, she's a mole.

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<v Speaker 2>You just wait, she's a mole. She's not really competing

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<v Speaker 2>and and she's and that ended up not being true.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've been waiting for that to be a thing

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<v Speaker 2>for so long that they made it happen with Raven

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<v Speaker 2>and it was met with a resounding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other bit of drag race news that you

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<v Speaker 2>actually cared about a tiny little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure about that, but a try.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Davenport is having a big birthday celebration at a

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<v Speaker 2>club and there doing this big show, and the lineup

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<v Speaker 2>for the show was released and Channgela was on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so queens started dropping out, left, right and sideways

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<v Speaker 2>because they refused to be associated with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Kennedy even came up with with a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I didn't cast it, so I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So is she officially canceled? Now? Is that the deal? Angela?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's this is the cancel.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked her for a long time. And you know why,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want I do know why when we were

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<v Speaker 1>having quite, when she was chilling for the White Man, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were having quite, the kerfuffle at one of

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<v Speaker 1>the the gay bars in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>That's changed hands three times since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically Chandela was scheduled to perform and instead of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being in solidarity with the people that were hurt. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is back when daryld D Piano was the owner

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<v Speaker 1>and said the end word repeatedly and repeatedly, and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>captured it on video.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it had just released that time. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>had just leased that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it was either that day, right, everything was fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>There were protesters out front, yes, and Changela arrives and

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just go, oh no, I'm getting back on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, she decided that she would come into this

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<v Speaker 1>complicated ongoing situation and she would bring everyone together, right,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you fuck yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have performed out front for the protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that would have been that at least might have

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<v Speaker 1>been a something I could have gotten behind. But when

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<v Speaker 1>she went on and performed and then she she started

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<v Speaker 1>this kumbayas shit when she didn't know anything about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see just so she got her coin, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave her a slight pass. I didn't on that

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<v Speaker 2>one only because I was like, all right, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>telling how far in advanced this gig was booked. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>fine girl, get your coin.

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<v Speaker 1>You have got a bunch of brown bodies, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>walking in a circle in front of the door. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you bother to esk?

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure you did.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment that I was officially done in fuck her

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<v Speaker 2>was when she came back to the club, to the

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<v Speaker 2>same club. That's when I was like, oh, you really

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<v Speaker 2>don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I fuck you all right, because it's like we know

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<v Speaker 1>we can get her.

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<v Speaker 2>So get her, right, yeah, And that's when I said

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<v Speaker 2>in that crowded bar, I was like, Channgela is a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking coon, and everyone went and it was like I

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<v Speaker 2>said what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still such they're still static around the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>and around the people and around the allegiances and you

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<v Speaker 1>know with the white people whisper.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm tired of it that and even why she's

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<v Speaker 2>canceled now?

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, he was like two owners ago. Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>is she canceled? And now it's just because she is.

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<v Speaker 2>There are several many allegations against her that she has

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<v Speaker 2>uh sexually assaulted others, yeah, fans and yeah, like drug

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<v Speaker 2>people and and and like she bill cosbats some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Is basically the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, yeah, great, so good, she's canceled. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like her that much anyway. Well that was the thing

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<v Speaker 1>she's always gotten on my nurse. And she was part

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<v Speaker 1>of that HBO show too, We're Here, We're Here.

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<v Speaker 2>She was part of that, Yeah, with a Eureka and Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>And Bob won't say anything about her good or indifferent?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I wonder why, like nothing part like everything, you

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<v Speaker 1>won't speak out against that if you know it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time she comes up, he's like, I'm not speaking

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<v Speaker 2>on that. And I'm thinking maybe he might know something

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01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and he might be involved in a legal thing, so

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01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>he can't that. I'm thinking that might be what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe because if someone sued, Yeah, yeah, it could

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01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:07.039
<v Speaker 1>be because I mean they were working together and somebody

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01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:11.079
<v Speaker 1>could sue them all and say, you knew, right. That

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01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:13.159
<v Speaker 1>could be.

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01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Because he did a whole thing on his YouTube channel

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01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>about controversial queens and ranked them in order of their offensiveness,

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01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, Changelo, I'm not going to talk

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01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.159
<v Speaker 2>about her right now, So just I'm putting here, I'm

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01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:35.439
<v Speaker 2>mentioning her because making this list, was she number one? No?

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01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:38.479
<v Speaker 5>I think that might have been Sharon, Oh, Sharon Needle.

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01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:48.680
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, well anyway, anyway, yeah, there's that.

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01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I when speaking of Eureka comes out, She's going to

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01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>be portraying Divine in a one woman show about Divine's

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01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>life off Broadway, and I'd.

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01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Be like, Carrie, I don't even he who that is?

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01:40:02.359 --> 01:40:04.399
<v Speaker 1>That is that a person you think is talented.

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01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I am not a fan of Eureka. I never kind

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01:40:07.079 --> 01:40:12.319
<v Speaker 2>of have been. She's problematic and she's just extra for

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01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the sake of being an extra, and apparently other queens

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01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:19.720
<v Speaker 2>have been. There are many different kinds of relationships surrounding her.

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01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll say that and everyone's like, oh, well, she's been

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01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>dying to perform Divine for years. She did her on

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01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Snatch Game and I'm like, yeah, and I saw so

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01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>did you?

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01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I heard it badly? It's not good. So actually this

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01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:37.199
<v Speaker 1>falls under who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because I saw someone say, oh, she looks just

1494
01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:41.439
<v Speaker 2>like her, this is going to be great. I'm like,

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01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>she still has to like speak and say words and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So so because we went to see Hades Town. Yes,

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01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>we watched the pro shot of Along, which is on

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01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Netflix with Jonathan Groff, Daniel Radcliffe. Daniel Radcliffe and so

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01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>what did you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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01:41:07.359 --> 01:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I I don't love it. I like a old friend.

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01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I like that song. I don't hate it, but I

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01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:14.039
<v Speaker 1>don't love it.

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01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It's that period of not Sondheim's best but he's Sonheim. Yeah,

1505
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>same ilk as Company, which I love.

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01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>You love Company? So you like Company, but you doesn't

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01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:25.479
<v Speaker 1>like Merrily.

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01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>What you're saying, Yeah, it's like Sondheim was in his like,

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01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:31.039
<v Speaker 2>look how clever I am?

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01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Bag and right.

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01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a little pretentious, but I mind it so much

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01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:38.560
<v Speaker 2>less with Company than I did with Merrily we Roll Along.

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01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:42.159
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't. Company doesn't go backwards, does it?

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01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Now?

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01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Merrily we Roll Along goes backwards.

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01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was. I I am glad I

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01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>saw it. I don't know that I'll watch it again

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01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:56.680
<v Speaker 2>like I've seen Company like dozens of times. I don't

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01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:58.359
<v Speaker 2>know I'm going to go back and watch Merrily We

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01:41:58.479 --> 01:41:59.159
<v Speaker 2>roll along and.

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01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>It makes this version makes better sense than some. But still, yeah,

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01:42:07.079 --> 01:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a it's a weird what do.

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01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>We call that device?

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01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Device? Yeah, I didn't love it. I don't hate it,

1525
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't love it.

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01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:18.319
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't as effective as it could have been.

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01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I wanted to see, Well you didn't go

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01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:23.079
<v Speaker 1>when I went to the theater. I went with my cousin,

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01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was essentially the same show. Nothing was clearer

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01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 1>or less clearer. Having watched it on Netflix, it exists.

1531
01:42:34.279 --> 01:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I won't watch it again, but we saw it. But yeah,

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01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and then we did watch Ain't Misbehaving on YouTube because yes, we're.

1533
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Going to be revisiting our buddy John over at Life

1534
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Spud a Song podcast, and we're going to talk about

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01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Ain't Misbehaviors. Yes, my favorite.

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01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Musical, so we can talk musical.

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01:42:57.279 --> 01:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love it. My introduction to Andre and I

1538
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>loved Fats Waller growing up, so This was like fabulous

1539
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>for me.

1540
01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Now Carter at her best. Yeah, it's it's a good show.

1541
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a good show, Ken Page, yep.

1542
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so many like like that whole cast went on

1543
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:22.039
<v Speaker 2>to have great careers.

1544
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh what's her name from Pose?

1545
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh Charlene Woodard.

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01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlene Woodard, Yes, a young Charlayne Water. I'm that young

1547
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:36.079
<v Speaker 1>though she wouldn't do it much younger than the other ones.

1548
01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>But she looked at just dinner. Yeah, so she looked

1549
01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like the child. But yeah, she's Folks may remember her

1550
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>as the dance instructor in Pose, but she is in

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01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>a Miss b Yeah.

1552
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:55.720
<v Speaker 2>She's the the first thing I saw her in after

1553
01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Ain't Miss Behaven. I mean, she's been in so many things.

1554
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:02.479
<v Speaker 2>The first thing I remember seeing her and she played

1555
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Roseanne's one of Roseanne's good friends.

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01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

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01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:10.800
<v Speaker 2>She would show up every now and again on Roseanne

1558
01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'd be like, oh, Charlie Woodard.

1559
01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Was she a friend or was she married to his friend?

1560
01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:19.079
<v Speaker 1>As I think about it.

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01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, her husband was Dan's friend and she was sort

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01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of because of.

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01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>That, right, but he was the buddy and she was

1564
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the wife of the buddy. Yes, ye, yep, yep. But

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01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was fun. It was fun to see

1566
01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:42.479
<v Speaker 1>it again and remember seeing it in real time or

1567
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, when it was out wherever the hell it was,

1568
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:49.439
<v Speaker 1>PBS or whoever did it because of nel Carter, because

1569
01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:52.079
<v Speaker 1>she was at her prime at that point, you know,

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01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>with with giving me a break and they were doing

1571
01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>this and it was it was yeah, and Andre was

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01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so young, right, I mean, not that young, but yeah.

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01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that show so much. And we're gonna

1574
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>watch it again before we go in the podcast because.

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01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>No, yes, okay, we can do it again, dang it.

1576
01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you.

1577
01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Can actually watch it this time.

1578
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I did watch it.

1579
01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>You spend some of your time wigipeding people.

1580
01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And we saw it recently the show itself and performed live.

1581
01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, we did. This was a good refresher. But

1582
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>if you want to watch it one more time, we've

1583
01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>got to fit that in before we sit down on Sunday.

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01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:37.279
<v Speaker 1>So I guess we should probably wrap this up so

1585
01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>we can go watch more television.

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01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:45.880
<v Speaker 2>We've been doing a lot of musical theater lately.

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01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, it's fun, it is fun, but.

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01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>You know it's also fun. What podcast business. Okay, let's

1589
01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:59.439
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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all I've got for this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like stories pop and I'm already writing next

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<v Speaker 1>week's notes or right next months notes. However this works,

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<v Speaker 1>oh stop because they won't it us alone, I know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna go make dinner. Yay, yay, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my career attenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been listening to Full Circle the Podcast. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host Martha Madrigal and.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your host Charles Tyson.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks sall, bye everyone.

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