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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Welcome to That's Not Mettal. We are your

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weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and welcome to Hyperblasts.

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Here our quick little bash you over the head with

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everything relevant that's gone on in the news this past

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week in those relevant respective genres. We are recording this

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unusually obviously only want in a blue moon, this rolls around.

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We are recording this on October the thirty first, so

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it'll be passed by the time you hear it. But

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happy Halloween, boils and ghoules. My name is parryin haysh

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Here we have Sam Dignon and Mark Sanderson. How are

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you guys? Obviously we're know, aside from sitting and recording

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this fucking thing, how are you celebrating the Wien I

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went to see.

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Speaker 2: The Texas Chainswaw Mascat at the best in my in London,

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the Prince Charles Cinema. Seeing on, like I said, this

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really grotty unearthed seventy millimeter print just added to how

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disgusting and like dirty that movie looked, and just I

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was like, yeah, no, this is just one of those

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just all time of horror movies and seeing it in

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a way that kind of enhanced the actual horror of

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the sound and the way it looked just made it

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that much better.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so that was a fun little Halloween afternoon

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for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every Halloween I tried to watch four films. I

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tried to pack it fill to the boom, and I'm

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currently halfway through the Almond very good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I normally I plan out in advance, normally what I'm

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gonna watch that night, but I think because we're doing this,

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I haven't done that. So once we finished recording this,

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it's just gonna be a case of seeing where the

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winds take me.

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Speaker 3: I think that's my one. Is am I doing Malignant?

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That's kind of becoming a fition for me because you

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know what a movie.

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Speaker 2: But I might also go for my ever growing pile

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of horror blue rays that I should probably watch something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think me and my girlfriend we watched Watson

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Grommit The Curse of the were Rabbit earlier, which is

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banging away to started off, and when I was on there,

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I noticed that the Hammer horror film The Vampire Lovers

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was like leaving Prime in like eight hours or something.

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So if I've still got time after recording this episode,

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I'll catch that one before it leaves, So that's what

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we're up to prior to getting into all the news

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and that couple of live music things. For me, I

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had one of the kind of most exciting tours of

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the year for me in terms of, like, I you know,

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I've had my tickets or ages. I've been counting down

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to it for four months, which was Chelsea Wolfe's UK

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leg of Her She which is after She, which is

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actually tour she's been doing, you know, the whole year

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basically all over the world since the album came out.

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And as well as a you know, a generationally talented

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artist and having one of the most universally brilliant catalogs

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in the twenty first century, she's also in my opinion, one

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of the best live acts. The last time I saw

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Chelsea wolf it had been a long time, was in

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kind of the first part of twenty seventeen, before his

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Spun had come out, and she was so she was

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technically she was touring Abyss, but she was like playing

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songs from his Spun like unreleased before you know, we'd

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heard them, and obviously a long old time now since that,

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several records down the line, and I'm pleased to confirm

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that she has just as you know, sensational live as

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I remember from that occasion, and you know, seeing Chelsea

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Wolf live, it's a case of all shades of Chelsea

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the same roof. Obviously, the new record is one of

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her more kind of like electronic industrial leaning and live

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the industrial part really feels ramped up in terms of heaviness.

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So she opened with obviously Whispers in the ecka Chamber

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and that just felt genuinely like, you know, doubly heavy

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and oppressive from what it is on the record, and

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by the time she got a house of self undoing,

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it felt like this kind of one to say, like, yeah,

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it was like this like underground goth Ray with like

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those like heavy beats going and stuff like that. She'd

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like opened with the whole run of songs from that

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new record included she did Tunnel Lights, but at the

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end she kind of mashed it up with a bit

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of Zombie by the Cranberries, which overcovered song that I'll

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let Chelsea do it because it worked really really well.

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like all ten tracks were in there, and you know,

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she went into sixteen Psyche and so I guess that

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was like, you know, the first like classic she was playing,

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and that just like grungey opening riff at the start,

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but it like huge cheer and you know, Jess Gowery,

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who's her drummer, is such a hard hitting drummer that

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it was like fully rocking on that, like really like

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you know, rock based stuff. She did this version of

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Feral Love with you know Benchers and going ham on

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like the electronic noise part, like fully fucking with the

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sound of what's going on in that song. At one point,

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you know, Chelsea, she went over to the side of

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State and she had a drink and it was from

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a fucking Chalice which was a thomly brilliant non brand.

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decent venues, but not you know, a huge arena actor

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or anything like that. But I really enjoyed the production

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in terms of like just simple staging of using shadow

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work and stuff like kind of these like flickering almost

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flamelike effect kind of casting their shadows like on the

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backdrop behind them. Really really cool. And particularly the last

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song of the main set, she did an acoustic version

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of the Liminal from the new album, and like everybody

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went off stage apart from her, And again it must

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be a really simple thing of how they achieved it.

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were essentially it looked like the kind of smoke from

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the smoke machines had created a kind of wind tunnel

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effect around her, where like the only light that was

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shining was like from directly behind her, and it just

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from again from like the stage just looking you know,

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the stage. It was like she was almost like in

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the middle of this like golden halo of like swirling

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smoke around her. Like it was it looked absolutely mesmerizing

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in terms of like a simple subtle effect that looked

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kind of genuinely otherworldly. Like it was everything kind of

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converging on her at the center of it. She hadn't

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played any song from Abyss in the main set, but

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then she came out for the encore and carrying flowers.

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I was annoyed that I looked at the settlers for

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London and they got every single song that we did,

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plus after the fall in there as well. But it

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was absolutely incredible. Mark you have handily just reminded me

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before we went on air here that you can fill

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us in about what you know is a pretty significant

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tour in itself, which was Some forty ones closing thing

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that actually happened in It happened here the same night

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of that one, but you got to see Some forty

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Speaker 4: Some forty one. Obviously, I'm a pop punk guy, a

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band I've loved most of my life, but for whatever reason,

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I've never seen them live until now. So when this

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I really love. The Bronx opened and they were fucking

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wicked like that was my first time seeing the Bronx

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as well. They just raged to a confused arena for

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where like blin coretty two fans who didn't know what

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was going on, and it was so good. Some forty

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one was euphoric. It was like the best two hours

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of my life. It was so much fun. They came on,

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of eighty eight at the end, and then did the

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big metal guitar solo and stuff, and then track two,

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the Hell Song, where they added a second to guitar

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solo at the end. So I was like, fucking hell,

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didn't after that, but that primed me for just swinging

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my fists, jumping up and down, you know, trying to

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kick his eyes. I can love all these songs, and

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you know, on the Class Hero and No Reason and

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stuff like, it's just songs have loved for as long

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as I can remember. We got an extra Chuck song

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then every Other Day and Welcome to Hell. So I

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was chopped about that and considering, you know how large

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and greatest hit catalog. Some point in one have I

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was hoping they were gonna play more new songs, considering

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you know, it's the farewell tour, but it's also sort

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of the tour for that we only got four Landmines.

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all of which are really just fit in those songs.

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love that song, and then you're getting like pieces into

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fat Lip into still Waiting, then the encore Summer Waiting

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as an overplayed song. It's not a song I particularly

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reached for actively all the time, but that was probably

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the best moment of my life. It was just life affirming,

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jumping up and down, surrounded by everyone else feeling the

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exact same way. Then the band, you know, they bow

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for all intents and purposes. It looks like the show

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is over. And then after five minutes, after most of

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the arena had funneled out, the lights dim again. Then

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Derek comes out on stage with just an acoustic guitar

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and like a piano to play so Long Goodbye from

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what was an arena show, and it was really bitter,

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sweet and lovely and something I will remember forever like

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time I ever get to see them, I'm chuffed that

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is, as said Halloween night, and as we

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know there is, there is nothing creepier or more ghastly

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than when we were young festival which here we go,

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so last week I think it was last week anyway,

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last time we were here doing the news, we spoke

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about one of these massive, crazy, you know us everything

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happening in one day, logistical nightmare, bank rolling as the

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country yeah type festivals, and we went, yeah, look massive

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lineup's massive as you get with that kind of money.

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of the poster. And here we are a week later

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doing essentially the same thing. We do have a couple

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of reasons to talk about we first, you know, one

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of them slightly more you know, noticeable on the poster

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than the other one. It is, of course, headlined by

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Twinity two performing songs from Enema of the State, take

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Off Your Pants and Jacket self titled, and more so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, like that is your standard bling went too set?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that the most specific that could maybe

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are doing it. Damna should be like, yeah, they're only

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playing songs from like, you know, the classic era or whatever,

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that last album that no one listened to, and they

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new songs. Coming back and doing Fever is about the

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way that Panic would return. The hardcore Panic fans are

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upset that Ryan Ross is involved in performing those songs

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from that album. I can't speak to to that, but

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Panicer back after, you know, as said a few weeks

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the other reunion is much further down the poster, and

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it's a band called Let Live Sam. Give us a cheer, yay,

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Like I know.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I don't know that. The thing is

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this band made your favorite album. No, no, we're going

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to go to that. I'm not going to go to

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the fucking when we were young festival. This is nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, I get you. So they were coming back like, yeah,

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we remind me there was there were some rumblings of something.

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Wasn't they remind me what the rumors were.

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Speaker 2: So a couple of months ago they announced that they

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were doing the repress of the remastering of the best

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album ever, Black is Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And they said they were going to be playing their.

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Speaker 2: Their official farewell shows that they never got to play before.

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Speaker 3: So that so basically they're they're never coming back for

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a final tour.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so this is this is a lot less shocking

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than Acid last week. As you say, I do think

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there's probably higher chances that let They will play in

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the UK than I think they I.

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Speaker 3: Think they will. Yeah, I think we will get them

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in the UK.

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Speaker 2: I'm praying it's not download because I don't want to

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pay download money, but you know, let them all come

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over here at some point, which.

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Speaker 3: Is exciting and I'm very happy.

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Speaker 2: And I've got the re release of the Black Beauty also,

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I've been listening to that a lot, So I'm kind

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of all a bit let Live pild at the moment,

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but I just I can't muster the excitement up for

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them and when we were young, because it's when we

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were young, and I just like, look at that festival,

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can just go Yeah there's bands as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess you know, obviously let Live this

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is the first show they've been announced, you know, since

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they broke up in twenty seventeen, wasn't it, Which is

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you know, for many people, it's the top reunion they've

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been kind of awaiting, so it is a big moment

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of celebration in many ways. But I do agree in

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terms of, like, it's not the hugest surprise because they

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knew it was coming and currently not stra right home

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by in terms of where they are. But let live

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are back less shocking news and acid bath but still,

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you know, maybe worth a slightly higher cheer than the one.

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Sam is simply the when we were young thing.

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Speaker 2: It's so exhausting that festival now that I just kind

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of like I can't bring myself to like get too excited.

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But then that's the uk F I won't shut up

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about it. You'll get that cheer for me then.

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Speaker 1: Very fair. Also never shout never really is that happening?

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Speaker 3: Apparently?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, directly above alexis on fire on the poster. You'd

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love to see it. Very you know, kind of the

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opposite news that we want in terms of bands coming

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and going.

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Speaker 3: The i'd say shocking.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Ithaca announced a couple of days ago,

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as we're doing this that they are going to be

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calling it quits, that they are going to be doing

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one final headline show in London on February. The eighth

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of thea is Linton Academy, which is labeled the Cremation Party,

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obviously after one their songs, but very much the idea

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is it's kind of a farewell and awake of sorts

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to the band, and following that that they are going

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to be defunct. There will be apparently one more song

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at some point, which is quite nice, but Ithaca no

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longer be around. And the reason they give is essentially

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commitments in terms of they've all got jobs, they've all

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got things that they you know, are responsibilities and things

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that they are you know, obliged to be doing, and

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they can't balance that with doing Ithaca anymore. And in

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a way like I'd notice that they had gone quite

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like obviously they fear Us was such a huge moment

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for them in terms of like really feeling like everyone

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had their eyes on them, and that was such a

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successful record and you know, maybe they didn't fully reap

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what they could have off the back of that record,

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but they certainly were a round a fair bit and

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you know, they were in the right places where you'd

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want them to be. But I you know, I did

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wonder over the last sort of year or so, I

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was like, where Bithaca gone? Are they? You know, just

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on the down low after like you know, they're gonna

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come up with a new record, but I'd noticed that

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it was quiet. Unfortunately, this is you know, the the

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answer I least wanted to see after you know, noticing that,

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and we are losing a band who are more you know,

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some people compared this to like, for example, when Palm

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Reader recently, just because it's kind of you know, recently

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similar type of bands. But Palm Reader we did have

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for longer, and Ithaca is a band that it feels

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like only recently in the scheme of things have really

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kind of become one of those top top bands that

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are always like you know that people would mention as such.

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So it is a real fucking kicker to be losing

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a band at that stage of their career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that what the part of

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primary of like a chief totty much everything they could

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really see that the areas they took their sound to

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if Aca on they fear Us, it felt like them

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sort of unfurling their wings and like showing new elements

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that they on the next album would likely be like

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even more fully realized. So it was kind of like

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I think they first still on the best metal albums

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for the last couple of years, but it was kind

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of like a taste of what could be done on

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top of that.

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Speaker 1: Like so I think in some sense you can look

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at They Fear Us and say that that is a

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hell of a statement to go out on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm using, unfit.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really do like the language of injury

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their debut as well, Like you know, whenever I saw

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if the car and they'd close on the whole crush

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and get that breakdown, like you know, arguably my favorite

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moment of the set. But in terms of getting a

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record like They Fear Us, where you went, holy shit,

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you really like ascended to something. It is in some sense,

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it's great they're going out like that. It's unfortunate that that's

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the only one of those that we got from them

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when they did feel that they had a longer streak

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of that kind of grace in them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is less like Palm Reading more like black Peaks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: This news is gutting, Like I'm so upset. I love

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They Fear Us. It was one of my favorite Albums

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of the Year when it came out, and it's only

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grown on me since, Like I feel like we're gonna

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look back on that as like a real moment. It's

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such a special record to me, and I would always

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listen to it in sort of excitement for what could

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be next, and it's sort of being well, that's the

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legacy now. Obviously it's a great legacy. It's a great record.

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The language of injury is amazing as well. So it's

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not like they haven't fulfilled the promise that they promised us.

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It's just I would have loved to deceive what they

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did next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's shitty. I mean it's the kind of

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thing where, you know, we can imagine, you know, in

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a few years time, we might be doing like a

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They theor s Album Club or something in a way

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that we've done for bands like Black Beats in their

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final records and being like, ah, man, this is so good.

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I wish that it wasn't just kind of where it is.

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I mean, obviously the reasons they've given, you have to

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respect it. I certainly respect the fuck out of their

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their their final tour poster that they've done for that,

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you know, for the the final show, which is.

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Speaker 3: Always down for a Paul Bearer.

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Speaker 1: Paul Bearer is there, but particularly the little tagline which says,

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so we couldn't do it and they were correct, and

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then down the side, which I didn't even notice the

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first time I saw it. Honestly, great call from the haters.

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It's like exactly the kind of I don't know, particular

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way of delivery and humor that Ithaca always kind of had,

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which it was a weirdly kind of large part of

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what they were doing. But yeah, man, like I mean,

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you know, it says rp Ithaca twenty thirteen to twenty

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twenty five. And obviously there's a few years at the

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start there of like you know, underground getting started in

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kind of obscurity, and I remember when Language Injury came out,

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being like, oh damn, you know, this is a band

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who are engaging with a lot of things in this

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world of metallic hardcore and so on that I like

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and that I'm into, and I was excited to have

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another band like that kind of on my plate who

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I liked as much as I did on that record.

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But then they fear Us was like, you didn't necessarily

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see that coming from them, even as good as Language

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of Injury was, and yeah, we just wish we got

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more of essentially, you know, a year of touring for

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that record and then no more and it is yeah, man,

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the UK music scene, we we have a sad habit,

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don't we of losing some of our most exciting heavy

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bands kind of as they are cresting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happened so many times and it's again it

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makes me cherished ones that are still around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even more Corella to Mass still exists, you know

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what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That would genuinely was that the band. I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: Hell, I was like, God that that band have stuck

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it out and that's blessing, but it is it is

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a shame.

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Speaker 3: And again like maybe at some point they might.

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Speaker 2: Decide to you know, dust off and like pick her

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up again, like so like some of these bands have done,

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but for now, like, yeah, it is a real shame,

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but I like they're ending it on their terms at least,

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like it seems like you know, I always like I

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would obviously this in the band implode and fall out

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and it will be ugly and messy, Like yeah, I

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would go to that final show and I'll have a wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Time, really good people in Ithaca. Like yeah, in another sense,

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it's genuinely it's sad to not have them around touring

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because you know, you see them around less, you know,

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and they were always just really really good, warm, fun people.

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So we certainly wish our best to you know, everyone

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in Ithaca going forward. But yeah, give By Fearis has

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been because that is still a great record that unfortunately

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right now is the last bit going to be hearing

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from Ithaca. Moving on to some touring news, which is

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you know, kind of very clearly aligned to some potential

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new music as well. Ghost of course announced their huge

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world tour, like are fully, They're going from April the

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fifteenth in Manchester is the very first date of the

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which I feel like happened last time as well. I

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seem to remember that the Manchester that I went to

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for Imperia was like the first date of the tour

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at least one of the early ones. I love doing that.

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But they've announced shows going all the way through into September,

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going to Mexico and the US and places like that.

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Now obviously people go so new album then notably, there

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is not a name attached to this tour which Ghost,

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you know, being very theatrical normally, do you maybe like,

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what was it a pale tour named Death and impera

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tour stuff, and so, you know, kind of quick minded

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people assumed that. Okay, so the tour name is essentially

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redacted here because presumably there'll be a new album after

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which it will be named. I like the tour poster, which,

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you know, shout out to whoever it was in our

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discord who caught the little reference that it's clearly modeled

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on the nineteen ninety one Cape Fear poster with the

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portrait of Papa and you know the cardinal floating in

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the water there. But basically, if Ghost have got a

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world tour starting in April, maybe you know, you'd assume

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maybe the record will land before then. Maybe it will

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land somewhere in the middle, and we'll have a single

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or something by the time April comes out. But we

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are looking at a new Ghost record in twenty twenty five,

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which in terms of like a you know, a three

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year cycle or something, is perfectly normal. I just feel

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like Impia is still very recent in my mind. So

477
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,440
I'm like, damn, So I say, maybe it's because we

478
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,200
had the concert, film and stuff. I've been a bit like,

479
00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:00,519
you know, it's always been hard to escape Ghost. But

480
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,799
obviously I mean a bit of a kind of rhetorical question,

481
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,720
but are we excited for New Ghost in twenty twenty

482
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,559
five just a little bit.

483
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's funny, like I still feel like Compire's recent

484
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:19,079
in this, not just because I'm listening to the all

485
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,680
the time. You know, spill Ways gets played on radio

486
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240
to every once in a while, so like these songs

487
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:31,200
are still around. But hey, I'll take New Ghost all day.

488
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,759
I'm sorry.

489
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that and I can't wait for

490
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,000
this to shows you know, obviously how much momentum they've built,

491
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440
where like we're still spinning and talking about that previous

492
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,079
record and we do have something new on the horizon.

493
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359
So Ghost set to have a very big twenty twenty five.

494
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,279
Just last week we were talking about what was it

495
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:48,240
the bloodstock editions with nail Bomb and stuff like that.

496
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,759
They came back with our fucking wallaper announcement here, which

497
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:55,039
is that the final special guests lots. That's the subheadline

498
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,440
of the previous two announce where Emperor and Ministry the

499
00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:00,680
final one, which is the one that sub to Gajerra

500
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,480
on the Sunday is none other than Mastodon, who, like,

501
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:10,000
I guess this is a case of you know, we've

502
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,640
spoken a lot how Bloodstock has grown in size and

503
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,559
bands who used to headline maybe can't headline now. Maybe

504
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,440
it's just that twenty twenty five is a particularly massive

505
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,160
fucking year for them, and a band like mastered On

506
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,839
are who would normally be in the headline position. I'm

507
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,559
just willing to take a hit and sub to someone else.

508
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,440
But essentially, I mean, considering.

509
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Emperor of headlined it, you know long ago, as I'd say,

510
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,440
that's two past headliners in the subheadline position.

511
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:34,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like.

512
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,599
Speaker 1: Fucking five in my mind, Bloodsdog headline or worthy bands.

513
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, go up, go up against two

514
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,359
thousand trees five headliners that like.

515
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean it's also you know, a nice

516
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,640
little inverse of Gajerra subbing too mastered On back in

517
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,880
twenty sixteen. But I mean I realized I hadn't seen

518
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,400
Mastodon since before COVID. I think because they haven't I've

519
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,599
not seen them because Hushed and Grim. You know, I

520
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,160
got the little showed up on my social media fild Olier.

521
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,640
It was like three years old, like a couple of

522
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,519
days ago or something, and I you know, we never

523
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:09,799
saw them over here for that released in terms of

524
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,000
a big headline tour or something like that, so it's

525
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,680
gonna be a long time. It's Master, I've been around

526
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,680
here in the UK. This is their only UK show

527
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,119
for twenty twenty five and it is Yeah, I said,

528
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,880
I mean super fucking exciting that Mastered. I know that

529
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480
some people have their problems with Mastered on outside at

530
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,519
festivals or whatever, so yeah, maybe not a guarantee that

531
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,920
it will be the greatest Master on shore you've seen

532
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,759
in your life. I don't know, but I'm really excited

533
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,519
to see masteron again because as said, it has been

534
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,440
a long time. And in terms of I guess you

535
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,119
know the sub headline position, what do you make it

536
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440
in terms of again a band like masterd On. Do

537
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,640
you think this means that Masodon are now smaller than

538
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,759
Blastop headline size or is it just a case of

539
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:49,720
it being a big year where they're just gonna go Yeah,

540
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,440
well we'll sub to our friends in Gajira.

541
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: I think any other year, I think Macedon could still

542
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,519
headline Bloodstong there. You know, they're still bad who would

543
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,720
probably be able to sell out. Brixton were relative ease

544
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:02,279
like they like they do. You know, they're they're there.

545
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:05,279
I don't think the position has diminished anything really. I

546
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,680
just think Gajira are like the biggest they've been on

547
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:12,839
the ascendancy and I don't think like and I think

548
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,200
again Sam with Trivium and Machine. You know, those bands

549
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,559
are all kind of riding a wave. So I guess

550
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,519
where else the massile playf they want to play Bloodstock

551
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,720
that they probably a ticket and pairing up pairing them

552
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:25,599
up with Gadjea is a nice double billing. As you said,

553
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:27,480
they've done it before, but just this is another reverse

554
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,359
of it. I think it just kind of worked as

555
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,960
they're available this year to do it. They were like,

556
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:33,079
yeah we will sub Yeah.

557
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Bloodstock now has like you know, there are

558
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480
more arena bands who have played Bloodstock, like you know,

559
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,440
Architect did it recently. ELI like bands like Nightwish or whoever,

560
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,559
can you know play arenas whereas I see Mathodon have

561
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,279
you for a very long time. I've been capped to

562
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,640
that kind of Brixton level. So I was thinking, is

563
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,079
that just kind of not big enough now for a

564
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:54,440
bloodstock but you know, the Sugar just recently did it,

565
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,079
and Behemoth still do it, and those are bands more

566
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:58,599
on that master On level of like you know, they're

567
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,039
not in arena as they are Brixton or even a

568
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,680
Roundhouse or something occasionally type type band. So yeah, I

569
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,720
think I agree. I think probably you know, maybe last

570
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,519
year Masterdon could have headlined if they decided to be

571
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:11,599
around there, but just this year, I think that just

572
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,160
means you're getting an even better deal on Bloodstock essentially,

573
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,759
Like again, if you go along through Counting Emperor as well,

574
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:20,960
that's like five headliner worthy bands that you're getting at

575
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,039
the top of that bill. So really like a big

576
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,839
fucking youth to see Master on that post and be like,

577
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,200
holy shit, they're not even at the top of it.

578
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Really really good Slayer just again a noteworthy kind of

579
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,599
thing of the calendar for next year. Slayer's Louder Than

580
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,279
Live performance, which was one of their scheduled headline dates

581
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,319
for their reunion this summer, was called off because of

582
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,279
the obviously extremely bad weather that's been in the US recently.

583
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:45,599
They have been announced that they are going to be

584
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,519
returning to you know, fulfill that slot at that same

585
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,559
festival next year. But that does also mean obviously Slayer

586
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,880
are going to you know, be playing shows in twenty

587
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,119
twenty five, and wouldn't be a surprise to see several

588
00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,400
other festival appearances pop up in twenty twenty five as well.

589
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,720
One piece of new music that we're going to talk

590
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,359
about on this again Halloween Hyperblast. I was holding out

591
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,359
for an acid bath track or something maybe we'll get

592
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920
by the time we go to sleep. Spider released a

593
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,240
song which is another band that features membles of Devil Master,

594
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,039
so that was good and appropriate. But the songle that

595
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:17,839
we're going to talk about here is a new track

596
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:21,200
that's been dropped by Blood Command, which is a song

597
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,039
called We Could Be Heaven. There's no album announcement yet,

598
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:25,680
but they have said that they are looking at releasing

599
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,319
a new album in twenty twenty five. So again, what's

600
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,079
that active period?

601
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: Like three albums five years?

602
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of good stuff there. Obviously, the

603
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:37,359
last one was well DOMINATIOND, which came out about a

604
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,799
year ago now from where we are, but this first

605
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,720
track from it is a pop punk song. Isn't it

606
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,319
so good?

607
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: Though?

608
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Like Blood Command have been since like Nikka doing Man that.

609
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,319
They've had so many examples that been like, oh, this

610
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,519
is what pop punk should sound like, and this is

611
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,519
like one of the best examples of It is still

612
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:00,599
got like a kind of like crunchy, chunky guitar, but

613
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,400
it's so like melodically bouncy big woes. On the chorus

614
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,200
they do that the best thing ever, which is playing

615
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,960
the chorus melody as a guitar solo, like always love that.

616
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,680
I just think, you know, Blood Command, I just on

617
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,079
such an insane good streak at the moment, and not

618
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,839
necessarily what I expected from them, giving you know, what

619
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,039
the fuck was going on with World Domination and how

620
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,240
batshit that album was, and then they've come on to like, yeah,

621
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,000
you know, here's a pop punk song and it fucking rocks, buddy,

622
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:28,880
this song is fucking.

623
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:34,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, like Sam said, I was expecting, you know,

624
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,680
I didn't know what to expect when I press play.

625
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,319
I was thinking maybe it will be another like Radio

626
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,359
or something. And the fact that it's this big, bright,

627
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:49,599
pop punk radio it makes me so happy. It's so hooky,

628
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160
the bass is big and fat, it's got a great

629
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,480
rock and roll like lick, Like right before the chorus,

630
00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,839
it's like, this is what I want it to sound like.

631
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,400
Basically it's my I've been listening to NonStop for about.

632
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good fun. I really like the there's

633
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,160
that kind of they started doing this thing. There was

634
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,599
a lot of it on the last album on like

635
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:13,319
obviously the softer side of it. The last album was

636
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,720
obviously very kind of very extremely divided. A lot of

637
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,960
it that was like the most ridiculous, like minute long

638
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,000
grindcore type songs they've ever done, but then also like

639
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,119
purely pretty songs. And they have this like really uplifting

640
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,759
eighties keyboard kind of you know, warm effect on some

641
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,279
of their stuff now and here it's like they've applied

642
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,799
that to a you know, a blinknety two Nanna Nach

643
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,119
type yeah, which was a really it's a nice combo,

644
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,079
and weirdly to me it kind of sound came out

645
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,880
sounding a bit like Andrew Wuk like that kind of

646
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,519
like here's like warmer, like what that's how we put

647
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:50,160
a few years ago that was like Believe in Music

648
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,559
or whatever the fuck that one was. And it was like,

649
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:57,519
you know, really just like again, very uplifting, very warm.

650
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,000
It has that kind of effect. But with this like

651
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:02,200
punk edge, there's a UFO reference in it, which I

652
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,720
suppose brings the Halloween connection of them releasing that today. Yeah,

653
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,720
it's It's the thing with Black Aman is I say, oh,

654
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,880
they've gone like full you know, pop punk. And there

655
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,359
are so many bands where that would fill you with

656
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480
some kind of fear that they've like you know, traded

657
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,000
in a really unique sound like Block Aman have for

658
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,599
some awful sterilized you know, as it is type thing.

659
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,559
But Black a Man has this ability to as that

660
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,119
you know, they've proven their you know, last couple of

661
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,920
albums to really be chameleonic and kind of make these

662
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,039
other sounds still there. So them going like you know

663
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,319
eighties coming of age movie uplifting warm pop punk. Uh

664
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480
somehow is like yeah that fits. And I also know

665
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,880
it probably won't be the only you know, feeling you

666
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,640
get on an album.

667
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:51,519
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it is.

668
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: I think I have no doubt that this is This

669
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:54,839
might be you know a bit more of a pop

670
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,160
up game, but I don't think this is gonna be

671
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,720
the one flavor they do. And there is again, you know,

672
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
it's just still so identifiable it's got that scandy punk

673
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,519
thing that is kind of where the cord their sound

674
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:06,359
come from came from, and that's always present no matter

675
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,559
what is where they decide to fuck around with. And

676
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,799
it's just like, again, I never kind of thought that

677
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:13,559
blook com on when they bought Nikki, you know, the

678
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,079
kind of like shrill shrieker like in to kind of

679
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,400
do this kind of warm, fun pop punk.

680
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: But it's such a good like fit for them.

681
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

682
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the great thing about Blood Command, like you say,

683
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,160
is when the album does come out, this could be

684
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200
sitting next to a ground coourse, yeah, or a gabber song.

685
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,799
Who fucking knows. Like that's the fun of Blood Command.

686
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,160
They can do anything and they make it all sound

687
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:41,000
so much fun.

688
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,799
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's the thing I like about this

689
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
song is that I like this song. I also am

690
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,359
fairly sure that this won't be my favorite song on

691
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680
their new upcoming album because there are other things that

692
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,599
Blood Command do that I, you know, are a little

693
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,279
bit more me. So I go, yeah, like, this is

694
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,599
a really cool thing, and I know there will be

695
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,720
other things that I think are even better than this.

696
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,920
So yeah, good stuff from blacker Man. As said the

697
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,440
song there is called we Could Be Heaven, and we

698
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
also look forward to their record next year and then

699
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,360
a segment. I'm always happy when we get something for it.

700
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,159
We have been on a hot street recently. The quotes

701
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,519
of the week, this one, you know, it comes from

702
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,599
such a a list Hollywood celebrity that it's gone far

703
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,400
outside of our little corner here. But Helen Mirran coming

704
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,480
out saying that she wishes Kirk Cobain had lived to

705
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:30,679
see satellite GPS is I mean she definitely she knew

706
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,559
how funny that was when she was saying, and that's

707
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,119
why she said it. But it's still really fucking funny.

708
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: That that is, you know, the real tragedy.

709
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: Rest in peace, Kirk Cobain. You would all loved the

710
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,360
as it.

711
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: Is with you, absolutely questions. Liam Robson kicks us off

712
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,760
here saying, do you like to check out a support

713
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,760
for a show we'll go into ahead of time, or

714
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,280
prefer to experience the music live for your first impression?

715
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,599
Open the floor for this one.

716
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Can kind of vary, like sometimes if I know I'm

717
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,400
not going to get to show for the probably on

718
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,480
a time I I like, won't like. But if it's

719
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960
gonna like, like, do I get their early show out

720
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,360
the sport band if I'm if I'm unsure, I might

721
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,519
give them a cursory listening kind of go so hardcore shows,

722
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,400
I might, you know, check out the sport band if

723
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,920
I if I feel like, oh, that they might be

724
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,000
worth getting them and catching so that that's kind of

725
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,039
like I mean, in when I went to Japan, I

726
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,239
listened to all of the sport bands at that show

727
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,440
in advance, kind of sort of like what what's this

728
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:24,920
taste of like Japanese argicle pop?

729
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be for me? And and I made sure.

730
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I was, like, I've really gone into them, so I'm

731
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,599
made sure I was there to see them. So yeah,

732
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:30,199
it can vary.

733
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to. When I first started going to shows,

734
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,719
I would listen to I would check out every band,

735
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,280
and I don't really anymore like I might if I'm

736
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,599
like ify on times, like Sam says, if I'm a

737
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,960
hundred percent censure, I'm going to see all the bands

738
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,960
at a show, I probably won't listen in advance, but

739
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,599
if I'm wishy washy, I might check in check him

740
00:35:57,639 --> 00:35:59,280
out if there's anything worth checking.

741
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the main thing I think it is again

742
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
sort of like confirmation of what you might be missing

743
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:07,400
in terms of like I as you know, as a rule,

744
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440
I tend to try and get to shows at least

745
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,360
for a little bit after doors and kind of you know,

746
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,199
be there for most of the show because you know,

747
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,199
obviously it's always worth checking out support bands and stuff

748
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,320
if you've not heard of them, but you know, sometimes

749
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,239
you just can't. You're you know, you're doing something and

750
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,880
sometimes you can't make it. And sometimes it's like you know,

751
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,199
again checking like should I really go out of my

752
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:27,920
way to make sure I can get there? Or can

753
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,480
I take a hit or whatever? If I am like cool,

754
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,360
I'm gonna arrive, you know again just a bit after doors,

755
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,719
I'm gonna watch everything. I won't really check things out

756
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,639
because I do think if you're gonna be there, like

757
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,599
either way you're gonna be there, Yeah, then the best

758
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:47,320
thing to like do is again it's the most accurate

759
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,679
representation of like, oh, what are you doing as a band?

760
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Is just kind of having it fed to you in

761
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,119
that sense, And it's also if you know you're gonna

762
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,119
be there, it's the least time consumer like you're gonna

763
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,760
watch them anyway, right, So, like do you need to

764
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,079
check them out in advance and spend that hour of

765
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,159
listening or whatever is you might be doing on top

766
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:05,920
of like being there at the show. A lot of

767
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,360
people don't have time for that. These days, we were

768
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,079
in such a like you know, hyper you know, control

769
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,760
from minute to minute type world in terms of schedule

770
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,920
that you know it just probably don't have the time

771
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,360
to go out and do that. If I am kind

772
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:22,119
can be at the show anyway, So generally I say no,

773
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,760
I won't unless I am trying to work out, like,

774
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,960
you know, what time should I be arriving if I've

775
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,960
got something that's you know, taking precedent or whatever. And

776
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,000
then if you obviously see a band and they impress it,

777
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:35,800
and then you go, oh cool, I'll check out the

778
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,440
record and then you get to go and listen to

779
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,880
the records with the kind of context of knowing what

780
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,880
they were were like live. Next question come from Peak

781
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,039
Ship And this is a nice question. I think is

782
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:51,960
kind of a hot topic onto itself that has been discussed,

783
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,119
you know, many times down the years, So I think

784
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,039
it's probably about time that we tackled it. Band members

785
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,519
wearing their own band shirts on stage lame or okay,

786
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,199
I actually think more people can get away with it

787
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,760
than you think. Still not most bands, but more than

788
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,159
you'd think. Like the base ground rule that we all

789
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,039
know is like Iron made him do it, and specifically

790
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,000
Kerry King does it. Although it's better when he's wearing

791
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,599
a Slayer shirt because now he obviously has a solo band.

792
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
It's funnier like he's going to forget his name if

793
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,079
you remove his shirt from him. But those are the

794
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,039
guys where we go like, yeah, obviously Iron made it

795
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,960
and Kerry King they're gonna do it. I do think

796
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,320
there are more people who fit that kind of molder

797
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,559
person who do get away with it.

798
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: I think. I mean when I came round to it

799
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,360
was Malevolence always the band who kind of made me

800
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,440
come round to the idea of wearing your merches because

801
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,639
they are always really funny about it. They like anyone

802
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,719
who kind of like, oh, there were the like, yeah,

803
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,239
our merch.

804
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,599
Speaker 3: Is sick of course on our own merch.

805
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: They managed to really savvly become a like our marketing

806
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,920
brand and too themselves. By anyone who's at Bloodstot this

807
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,159
year and saw the beer tent and shit everywhere. It's

808
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:55,760
like I think malevolentce is going to slap their name

809
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,960
on anything if they get a chance.

810
00:38:57,639 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why not.

811
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean it probably is kind of lame, but I

812
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,400
think it depends on how cool your merch is. And

813
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:10,119
just like I can like sometimes I think I've seen

814
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:11,840
hate Breed you and I'm like, yeah, hate Breed, where

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,599
are your own merch?

816
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: Because you're fucking hate Breed. You can do it, and

817
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,639
I like news about that. It's like, fuck off, it's

818
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:18,400
hate Breed, you know.

819
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 2: But there are some bands where like if as it

820
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,840
is on Sage, wearing their own merch, we're given as

821
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,400
it is a kick in.

822
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: Today, maybe it would done anything. They're just the bad

823
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:31,679
out their Yeah.

824
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:33,039
Speaker 3: I think they were with the measuring stick.

825
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you're talking about that is I think if

826
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
there's any band, the way to measure how this works

827
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,280
is what you've just said for Hate Breed, where you

828
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,039
go like, yeah, it's fucking hate Breed. If you can

829
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,960
say that about a band and say it that's with

830
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,440
full sincerity, then they can get away with it. If

831
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,679
you go, yeah, it's fucking and then you put in

832
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,960
a band where you go, I don't know if I

833
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,239
can say that with full conviction, is that's when because

834
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,199
it's all about aura, isn't it? I think obviously the

835
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,559
other side is, like you were saying, with malevolence. If

836
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,159
there's a band who have a kind of like almost

837
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,800
like a uniform, like they are they present as a

838
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,039
unified brand in some way, then there can be something

839
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,400
to that. But it comes down to that, like, yeah,

840
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,280
it's fucking insert name here, legend status. It depends on

841
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,159
how cool your band is. Like, if you are Rob

842
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,519
Barrett in Cannibal Corpse, you can get away with wearing

843
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:23,920
a Cannibal Corps shirt on stage. If you're like Glenn Tipton,

844
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440
you can wear a Juda's pre shirt. If you're I

845
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,320
don't know, like Mark Tremonty playing in Tremonty his band, right,

846
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,599
I want to see that guy wearing a Napalm Deaf shirt,

847
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:35,119
not a Tremonty shirt, although maybe I would respect him

848
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,559
wearing a Creed shirt. I don't know. But like that,

849
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,159
and it's not just about how good the band is,

850
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,760
you know, because like like the Mensingers, if the Mensingers

851
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,760
all came out wearing Mensinger's shirts, it'd be like, what

852
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960
are you doing it look a bit corny, but there's

853
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,880
no aura there, you know, It's just that's just some guys,

854
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:54,800
whereas it's all about projecting that aura of like yeah,

855
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,800
we are fucking here.

856
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah No, that's because the mensers are just a bunch

857
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
of dudes, so I don't need to see them in

858
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,920
their merch.

859
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: Like my take is I always like it. I don't

860
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,559
care who does it. I always think it's charming. I'm

861
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:14,400
pretty sure I saw like young Guns.

862
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:16,159
Speaker 1: That's a man who do not have the aura.

863
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's fucking young.

864
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: But I can't join you on this hill. I'm sorry, Like.

865
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't know. It's one of those

866
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,639
things like, oh, I don't wear merch of the band

867
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:35,039
you're seeing to the show that people talk about where

868
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,159
I'm like, I don't understand the wavelength you're on. I

869
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,960
think it's fun when anyone wears their own shirt. Fuck it,

870
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,320
why not if you're putting out If I was putting

871
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,400
out merch, i'd wear it.

872
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

873
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: What this comes down to a slightly wider philosophical question,

874
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:51,840
which is the whole point of band merch is to

875
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:56,519
essentially market your band, is to it's to advertise and

876
00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:02,719
represent taste, right, And like, I wouldn't wear a shirt

877
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
of a band I am going to see that night,

878
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,920
and it's not out of some kind of weird, you know,

879
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,039
enforced rule or something. It's just to me, it's a

880
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,079
given that I like that band when I'm at their

881
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,079
show because I've come to their show, Whereas if I'm

882
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,679
wearing a different band shirt, that might spark a conversation. Right,

883
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,159
You're not gonna have any conversation sparked about wearing the

884
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,039
shirt of the band you're there to see because they

885
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,639
know you're there, unless it's like a specifically really cool,

886
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,480
rare shirt or something. And it's a similar sense coming

887
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,000
from the band, where like, you know, maybe it's less

888
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,440
of a thing these days, I don't know, but like

889
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,800
you hear a lot from kind of you know, generations

890
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,760
gone by, people talking about like, oh I got into

891
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,000
this band because this musician in a band I like

892
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,199
was wearing their shirt or like you know, shouted them

893
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,039
out on the line the notes of an album or something.

894
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,679
And that's kind of the you know, the bonus of like,

895
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,760
oh I'm wearing someone else's shirt. Right. The flip side

896
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,199
is again that kind of branded aura type thing. And

897
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,119
that's where like I would rather see again someone who

898
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:03,639
can't pull it off advertising essentially someone else's band. Yeah,

899
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,800
again showing that kind of taste and doing that pointing

900
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,400
people towards the music type thing that band merch is

901
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:12,159
essentially kind of four Or if you are in the

902
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,280
kind of band where you can pull it off and

903
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,599
it adds to the again that the vibe of the

904
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,920
appearance of a show, then go for it, you know,

905
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:22,960
like I mean again, like someone like Dying Fetus or

906
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,320
something like. If your aura is dude who can knock

907
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,400
the fuck out at you, then you're allowed to wear

908
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,039
your own shirts. If your aura is Young Guns, then

909
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,280
probably not.

910
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: Well, hey, there might have been people at that show

911
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,800
who wouldn't have gotten into Young Guns if they had

912
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,760
seen that shirt.

913
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: Who are these guys? Oh they've got emblazoned on their chests?

914
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,719
I see. The other thing is I suppose, you know,

915
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,000
for some bands it might be a level of ease

916
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,079
if like they're on tour wat shirts. If we got

917
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,000
with us where we've got our merch. Fucking chuck went on.

918
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,320
But yeah, I think it there are more bands who

919
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,880
can get away with it, then you think, but it

920
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:57,119
entirely comes down to like again that like level of

921
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,480
projection and kind of that that viction in like how

922
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,639
well can you pull it off versus the ones who can't?

923
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,320
And Marcus Franz asks another like really big question, are

924
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,039
we too focused on bands making it big? And then

925
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:14,039
these are in quote marks, Could they play Ali Pally?

926
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Are they download headline material? Are they the next Metallica?

927
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,559
Will the next album taken to the next level, et cetera.

928
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,320
Of course we want success with the bands we like,

929
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,960
but it seems this often takes over the conversation instead

930
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,000
of focusing on the quality of their output.

931
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: I mean, so for me personally, I don't care about

932
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,159
how popular bands are, but this question being asked on

933
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,119
this week, of all weeks, you kind of go ihaka,

934
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:42,559
like if they got bigger, could they still be?

935
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

936
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I guess it goes down to, as you say, the

937
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,159
financial sustainability thing.

938
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: Like that, that's where that's where that's what my thing

939
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,000
of bands get bigger is my my key interesting bands

940
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,039
getting bigger at this stage is in their interest of

941
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,800
keeping the band going in a way that is financially stable. Yeah.

942
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,079
I know a lot of bands that I like that

943
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,719
are going to be playing the dome all the time,

944
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,280
They're probably not going to be able to keep up

945
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840
as a full time thing. Even some like big bands

946
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,639
can't give as a full time thing sometimes.

947
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: So it is a real tricky one.

948
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: But for me, on my personal enjoyment, I always want

949
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,440
to see the bands I like do really well. I

950
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,920
want to see you know, in an idea world, the

951
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,519
Mensingers would be saying out arenas because they're the best band.

952
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: In the world.

953
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: But does that does the Menzingers know, playing like the

954
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,159
sort of venues they play, does it just to flect

955
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:31,639
my enjoying the band? Hellner, I'm going to go see

956
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:32,960
them whatever venue they play, and I'm going to have

957
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,440
the best night of my life because im seeing the Yeah.

958
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I almost feel the Mensingers as a band

959
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,800
who have kind of made it because they are for

960
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,400
what they are, which is a they They you know,

961
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,400
year in year out, play some decent venues and they

962
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,079
sell them out and they've got the audience there. They're

963
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:50,159
almost a band who are kind of like, for the

964
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:54,559
measured expectations that we now have, they're almost kind of

965
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:55,280
gone over the mountain.

966
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. I'm just saying for me personally,

967
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,480
you know, I would. I would I be like over

968
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,239
the minutef the Menzingers were in a band and they

969
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,960
were so big that everyone knew them and not insert.

970
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: Band I don't like that are popular.

971
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: But again, like it is, I want success for bands

972
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,599
I like because I want them to make money. I

973
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,519
want them to be able to continue to support doing

974
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,880
what they do. But I'm also like, I'm not going

975
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,000
to be like, Oh. The one that gets me is

976
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:22,920
when a band kind of has their short doesn't want

977
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,960
to make it, and then kind of dip down and

978
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,079
people seem to then duck out because the band didn't

979
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,519
become the biggest thing of the one, And I'm.

980
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,199
Speaker 1: Just was like, yeah, that's cowardly like and that.

981
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: Happens more often than you'd think, and I think it's

982
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,119
such a like shitty attitude to take. So that's the

983
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:37,840
one where I think like we need to have less

984
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,760
of that rather than kind of hoping bands get big.

985
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like we are stuck on this idea

986
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,159
because that's how it used to work. The bands who

987
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:50,719
were you know, who we all loved, would progressively slowly

988
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,920
get bigger and as human beings, we love a story.

989
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:56,559
We love being at the beginning of something a lot

990
00:46:56,599 --> 00:47:00,199
of grassroots thing and then seeing it grow and each

991
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,480
the highest levels. So as for like why we always

992
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,760
do that, I think it's just human nature, Like we

993
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,480
just want to see the things we like grow and

994
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,599
get bigger and everyone else like it. And also, like

995
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,880
Sam says, I want the bands I like to be

996
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,920
able to still be bands by having success. I think

997
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,639
recently we have seen a lot of people sort of

998
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,280
like like you say, bands who have sort of reached

999
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,519
our level, but people are still like, oh, when's the Oh,

1000
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:36,159
when are they going to do an arena And it's like,

1001
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,199
I think this is as big as you know it's

1002
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,480
gonna get. Like people used to say about Masterdon and

1003
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:46,360
stuff like or masterd on the next arena band. No,

1004
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,960
there are complex progressive metal band. It's a miracle that

1005
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,760
they can headline bricks from the Academy.

1006
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think certainly. Obviously both points you just

1007
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,639
made I think are absolutely true, particularly obviously the financial

1008
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:04,239
sustainability thing. I think that's more for again, like bands

1009
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,440
who are really small and I go, I want you

1010
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,119
to essentially reach a big enough level that like people

1011
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,760
are interested in what you do at least a like

1012
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,679
semi large kind of level, and therefore you can you

1013
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:20,559
can have more resources come your way, you can keep

1014
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:24,199
doing what you do. It's a wanting to see the

1015
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,039
thing you like survive and prosper, which is absolutely true,

1016
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
but I do in the last few years, I have

1017
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:36,960
certainly found myself flipping on this kind of mindset where, yeah,

1018
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,239
obviously when maybe when I was a teenager I get

1019
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,400
more excitable about things, I'd be like, oh my god,

1020
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,559
this thing is going to be so huge. I really

1021
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,360
want this thing to get huge whatever. And part of

1022
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,119
it is being jaded of seeing it happen for so

1023
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,719
few bands and kind of the idea of like, you know, ah,

1024
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,559
a new rock band is going to come through and

1025
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,000
change the world and rock going to be like on

1026
00:48:58,039 --> 00:48:59,960
top again and be massive again. I'd like, you know,

1027
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:03,280
I've just I've lost interest in that idea. I've lost

1028
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,599
interest in wasting my time on trying to like and

1029
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,199
the will that into being when I could just be

1030
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,840
celebrating artists in the now. And that's the thing for me.

1031
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,320
It's celebrating artists in the now while we have them,

1032
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,280
and hopefully if we do that enough, then you can

1033
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,559
obviously that's what this podcast is for. We we do it,

1034
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,360
and therefore hopefully other people will pick up on that

1035
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,000
thing and discover that thing. But in terms of uh,

1036
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:30,159
you know, sometimes in objective conversation, it is interesting you're like, yeah,

1037
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:33,800
like I think this band could go to Let's use

1038
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,320
Malevolence as another example, right, like when they headline I've

1039
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,840
just say headlines. Right when the subheadlined bloodstock this summer,

1040
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,840
and I looked around at the amount of people there

1041
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,239
were and how crazy like a significant portion of them

1042
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,760
were going. I did find myself thinking, I think Malevolence

1043
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,760
could have a crack at like an Ali pally, right.

1044
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:55,800
But it's when that conversation supersedes the actual discussion of

1045
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,360
the art that gets them there. Yeah, is where I

1046
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,920
really do agree with this, and I'll use it again.

1047
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,719
This is a kind of a random example, but the

1048
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,920
banding pop up the head were Tribulation, who kind of

1049
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,000
similar to what you were saying, Mark, I remember, like Tribulation.

1050
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:09,400
You know, they've been around for a few years and

1051
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,960
then they made the Children of the Night and they

1052
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,800
kind of turned into the sort of sound that they

1053
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,960
are more associated with Now and from there because it

1054
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:20,800
was like a gothic heavy metal thing more, you know,

1055
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,320
they could they started pick up a bit of steam,

1056
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,199
and obviously you had a lot of like, oh my god,

1057
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,880
could they be the next Ghost or something? And even

1058
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,360
if like you know, that's maybe putting words in people's mouths,

1059
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,880
it was at least like, could they in some way

1060
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,880
step through a door that Ghost have opened?

1061
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: Right?

1062
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone expected they'd be as big as

1063
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,039
Ghost because fundamentally they have like a growler singer and

1064
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,320
don't write songs like that. But the idea of like, oh,

1065
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,840
Ghost are really popular, could someone like Tribulation capitalize on

1066
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,960
that a bit? And I agreed that in an objective

1067
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,280
sense that could be true, right, and it is. You know,

1068
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,920
if anyone here likes something like Ghost or anything that's

1069
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,440
sort of you know, that kind of goth heavy metal

1070
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:58,639
or whatever, I do go like, yeah, you should check

1071
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:04,760
out Tribulation. But I realized that Tribulation have essentially made

1072
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,880
this whole string of fucking amazing records, a run of

1073
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,079
records that I think of any band of their generation

1074
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,159
is like as a classic run as anyone else has made.

1075
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,960
And the conversation was still that like could Tribulation be big?

1076
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,400
And I was like, well, they just made this a

1077
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,280
fucking amazing run of records that's going unappreciated because people

1078
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,880
are focused on like we should get them opening for Ghosts.

1079
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,480
Wouldn't that really be something? And I remember I think

1080
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,199
it was around like the down Below record was that

1081
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,239
most like, oh my god, Tribulation because it was the

1082
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,679
follow up to Children that night, it was like they

1083
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,079
could really be you know, step through into that door

1084
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,719
and be onto something. And now again they've made like

1085
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,159
a fucking run of records, and now again their new

1086
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:46,039
record comes out this Friday, and we're in review on

1087
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,079
the next show. They're changing tact a little bit, they're

1088
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:51,840
changing style because they've undergone a whole artistic trajectory or

1089
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,440
like kind of completing the thing they were doing, and

1090
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,760
the conversation around them hasn't caught up to where there

1091
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,280
are is going because people were still stuck on that

1092
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,480
like could they step through that door and become bigger

1093
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,239
than they are? And like, do I Witstribations were bigger

1094
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,920
than they are? Absolutely? Fuck yeah, I do. I think

1095
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,960
they are that level of band. But I also think

1096
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:18,400
just Appreciating a band in their prime has become weirdly

1097
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:24,039
harder to do because band's primes happen and then they

1098
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,239
you know, because they haven't stepped through that door like

1099
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,960
you're you're saying and become that thing people kind of

1100
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,360
and they lose interest because they didn't become the next

1101
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,239
Ghost or whatever it is. It's like, yeah, but they

1102
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,840
like their artistic prime has just unfolded right before your

1103
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920
eyes and you didn't fucking pay attention because you were

1104
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,079
busy pondering like what venues they might play.

1105
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the one for me is they could they

1106
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,119
be the next Metallica or Michael Romance whatever, like those

1107
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,639
are the other That's the mindset that I think is

1108
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960
just so like toxic to the development of bands at

1109
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,079
the stage because like, no, no band can ever be

1110
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,679
the next Metallica because the music scene and then she

1111
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,159
is not designed to support.

1112
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: Like again, like it's a.

1113
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,119
Speaker 2: Miracle that Ghost have got to where they are, and

1114
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:06,920
I think, like it's great that a band like Ghost

1115
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
of it, but again, they're still not the next Metallica

1116
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,280
and they never will be because you can't do that.

1117
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,360
Creeper are never going to be the next Michael Romances,

1118
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,199
by the fact that they are again on a run

1119
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,280
off three pretty flawless if you like Michael mc romance

1120
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,079
and kind of like Emo E Golf Punk records, those

1121
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,440
those three Cooper records are absolutely flawless. And again I think,

1122
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,800
all right, some people aren't appreciating that because they're so

1123
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:29,440
like on the lookoup for can this be the next

1124
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,920
Michael Romance or whatever, and when it's not happening, it's

1125
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,159
gonna be well, yeah, that's something that really I find

1126
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,079
like they can they be the next?

1127
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think eventually, I mean maybe not, but you know,

1128
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,119
let's just say eventually. Creeper are lately to make a

1129
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:47,599
record that is not as unbelievably brilliant as the ones

1130
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:50,280
that we have so far. And you know, obviously they've

1131
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,519
just played like, within you know, hours of us doing this,

1132
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,719
they've just played like, you know, a co headline Wembley

1133
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,760
Arena show and that's fucking brilliant. And hopefully it does

1134
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,719
continue from there. But they actually, if we get to

1135
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,199
the point where Creeper that they're high, that they've been

1136
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,599
on basically the whole periods of mant so far, you know,

1137
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,559
pretty golden decade they've had starts to lower, as it

1138
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,960
does for you know, ninety five percent of bands if

1139
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,519
they haven't got to you know, some huge download, headlining

1140
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,840
level or something. I do not want to see people

1141
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,280
start kind of undermining essentially and not appreciating how brilliant

1142
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:31,840
been for so long, just because that particular hurdle didn't fall.

1143
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,400
And that's essentially what it comes down to for me.

1144
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Creeper was sort of where I stopped thinking like

1145
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:42,480
that that because you know, the early days of Creeper,

1146
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:44,639
I was caught up in the oh, they can be

1147
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,599
the next my comforical romance the next afi you know,

1148
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,280
I really believe in this band, and I do believe.

1149
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,519
Speaker 1: In this band, and see what they've done so far

1150
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:54,119
is pretty magical, and you feel kind of vindicated for

1151
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:55,440
being there in the early days.

1152
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I I obviously when what happened, and I didn't

1153
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,079
see Creeper for years, and then the next time I

1154
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,599
saw them, I sort of had this moment of like,

1155
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,719
when I'm old in Creeper no longer exists, I'm not

1156
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,840
going to look back and go, ah, I'm going to

1157
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,760
think about how many of the best nights of my

1158
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,159
life I had with that band who mean the.

1159
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:19,639
Speaker 4: World to me.

1160
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So again it comes down to a objective measure

1161
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:29,079
as again commentators, whatever the fuck you want to call

1162
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,440
what we do, like where about our band sitting and

1163
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880
you know, wanting people to kind of jump on board

1164
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,840
and again trying to point people in the right direction

1165
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:43,159
so that they can prosper and survive. But I do

1166
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:46,480
certainly again code Oranges and ever example can come up

1167
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,920
with countless examples of bands who'se like classic runs that

1168
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,800
we are seeing unfold before our eyes are going weirdly

1169
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,320
unappreciated because of the kind of like you know, objective

1170
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,519
tally measures that they are kind of being held against.

1171
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:03,400
So that is where the kind of conversation changes for me.

1172
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:07,639
So yes, good questions there do check out from a

1173
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,280
couple of weeks ago, if you have not already our

1174
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,400
most recent album, Club Pack, which was a you know,

1175
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,639
Damnation theme special. But it is also not entirely just

1176
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,360
relevant to Damnation in terms of it is for belter

1177
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480
albums that we had a conversation about that particular episode

1178
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,639
you know, went life for everybody to hear. I should

1179
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:27,360
also mention that, you know, again having mentioned Acid Bath earlier,

1180
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,360
we do roll out the kind of older album club

1181
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,079
packs we do that go up on the Patreon we

1182
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:34,760
do after a certain level of time, they roll out

1183
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,239
on the main feeds as well, And just coincidentally, the

1184
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,599
episode we did last summer where we spoke about Acid

1185
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:41,960
Bath when the kite String Pops happened to you know,

1186
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,519
pop up to be due this particular week, so that

1187
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,039
is available for you to listen to if you've not

1188
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,880
gone and heard it on the Patreon already, if you

1189
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,440
want some more pointers about acid Bath. That was also

1190
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,679
the episode where we spoke about match Box twenty in Atilla,

1191
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,840
which made it an absolutely ridiculous bunch, so go into

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,119
that as well. While you're at it. There's plenty of

1193
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,280
content from us to keep you going, and we will

1194
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,840
have more obviously of that coming to the Patreon feed

1195
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,039
basically the other side of Damnation Festival, which is of

1196
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,719
course this weekend, and so we're now going to end

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00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,239
on the releases for this which again this is the

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00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,840
first of November, but this goes out because we were

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doing things like the review show and the Damnation album

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00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:22,880
club pack, we've missed a couple of weeks of hyperblasts,

1201
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,719
so strapping This is not exhaustive. This is just genuinely

1202
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,320
a bunch of stuff that I think is in some

1203
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,840
level of note or again, like we were just saying,

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,639
deserve to have some eyes pointed towards it or whatever.

1205
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,079
But get your notepad and pen out. Here is a

1206
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,400
whole bunch of stuff from the past couple of weeks

1207
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:43,599
that we haven't so far mentioned or reviewed on this show.

1208
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:45,280
Going back to again the week that we did that

1209
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,880
Damnation album club pack, pretty you know, good bunch of

1210
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,239
records came out. The one that came out that we

1211
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,880
did not review is Jerry Cantrell's I Want Blood, his

1212
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:59,960
new solo record. Obviously we like Jerry Cantrell and awful

1213
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,199
and I can tell you that's a really good record.

1214
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,079
A couple songs on that in particular that have been,

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00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,400
you know, kind of reverberating around my head, really good stuff.

1216
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,599
Heavier than the last one he did, which had more

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00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:11,199
of that sort of like you know Americano type field.

1218
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:13,559
This is more like you know, Rainy of Fog type

1219
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,599
Allison Chains type stuff. Riffy, but good stuff. They're also

1220
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:20,280
the final Japandroids record, Fate and Alcohol. The band who

1221
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,599
you know them announcing their split prompted us to then

1222
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:24,920
do the recent album Club we did on them, so

1223
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:27,519
you know it should be would be a miss to

1224
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:29,840
you know, not point out that they have now released

1225
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,960
their their breakup record as well, Pinhead Gunpowder, which was

1226
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,199
the return of you know, Billy Doo. Armstrong's project released

1227
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:41,159
their album Hunt. Grand Magas released Sun Raven, really good

1228
00:58:41,239 --> 00:58:43,559
heavy metal band. This is a damn fine album. I

1229
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,000
think it's stronger than the previous one they had released,

1230
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,199
so worth checking out. Enseferum also returned with winter Storm

1231
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,400
Swaw the Sun, the kind of gothic doom band released

1232
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,199
a record called Shining Or that was a weird kind

1233
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:57,000
of departure in sound. I wasn't quite sure what was

1234
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,679
going on with that one. Harvestman, which is Steve on

1235
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,000
Till from Neurosis, released the third part of his Triptych

1236
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,400
Records that had been releasing throughout the year, so that

1237
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,920
is now complete as a project. And we also had

1238
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,000
the return of Serpent Column, which is a really like

1239
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:15,639
kind of mathy, aggressive, weird extreme metal band, kind of

1240
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:17,280
just surprising out out of the blue. They were coming

1241
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,039
back with a record called Tassel of Aries. Last week

1242
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,880
the last week of October that we had albums, the

1243
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,760
big ones that we did not review in our episode

1244
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,159
that came out that week. We also, of course had

1245
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:29,920
the Better Lovers album Highly Irresponsible. Obviously, we are going

1246
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,400
to talk about that one in a little bit more

1247
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,840
detail when the time comes. Devin Townsend released his record

1248
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Power Nerd. It was a pretty big day for kind

1249
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,519
of alternative rock stuff. We had the Pixies releasing a

1250
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:42,559
record the night the Zombies came. Kids in Glass Houses

1251
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,119
released their record Pigs and Glass Houses their reunion record,

1252
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:48,800
and Sam, after all that big en up, you did

1253
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,800
not seem happy with it.

1254
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: It just it just quite boring and I felt sad

1255
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,000
listening to it.

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Speaker 1: Those Houses have released a that's never happened.

1257
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened. That's the thing that has.

1258
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Never happened before, Amil, and you with.

1259
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,239
Speaker 3: Me on this.

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01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: I mean it's like the eighties did a fart. Yeah.

1261
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,199
Speaker 2: Like the first thing is the al has always been

1262
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:18,119
there and they've just kind of done that. But only

1263
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:20,000
that I lost the thing of like writing choruses, and

1264
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,400
I'm like.

1265
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,239
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you lose the way of brit

1266
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,519
rock from the twenties.

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01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:28,239
Speaker 1: Considering in gold Blood was like if Danger they did

1268
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:32,559
a fart, I'm not shocked to see that. Amil and

1269
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:36,679
the Sniffers, the Ozzie kind of garage punk band, released

1270
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,360
Cartoon Darkness. Meryl Streak released Songs for the Deceased, which

1271
01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:43,440
is a thing that I checked out a bit of

1272
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,119
and I was like, this is not for me, whatever

1273
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,880
this is, but you know, people really seem kind of

1274
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,719
into that. Pomp Pom Squad released Mirror Starks maybe without me.

1275
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,920
This is a band you like, Sam so kind of

1276
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,760
just like a one centens encapsulation of why this Pompom

1277
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,119
Squad record is worth checking.

1278
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: Out if you like you kind of like grungey DIY

1279
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,719
punk with a kind of like pop sense blood to it.

1280
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Speaker 3: That's kind of the vibe I dig that.

1281
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:12,079
Speaker 1: Yes, Will Putney had a seriously big day last last

1282
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,679
week because as well as Better Lovers, his main band

1283
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:17,639
Fit for an Autopsy release their record Than Nothing. That

1284
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,119
is a band called Poltergeist with I don't know what

1285
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:21,800
they're cool but whatever that weird like an o with

1286
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,079
a line throat. In Poltergeist they recorded Naped Music. That

1287
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:29,960
is a new band. It's basically it's for the goths.

1288
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,599
It's basically like if you like unto others and kind

1289
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,760
of you know, great pleasures. He type stuff of like

1290
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,079
post punk with a bit of heavy metal in there.

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01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:41,840
That's very much kind of in your area. Butcher, the

1292
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,079
speed metal band who a few years ago released the

1293
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,760
I think now already cult classic six six six Goats

1294
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,599
Carry My Chariot, release the Fall Up Record, which is

1295
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:54,199
a title that generally makes no sense on foul of

1296
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,840
tyrant wing and it's foul like a chicken fowl. I

1297
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,480
do know what the fuck that means. But new Butcher record.

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,920
Moving into black metal, Gayria though pretty again kind of

1299
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,119
popular slightly even now getting ever more mainstream with every

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01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,679
record black metal band released. Coma. My favorite of the bunch,

1301
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,480
the Swiss kind of avant guard no one really sounds

1302
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:17,119
like them. Band Shamash released The Maldour Chance Old Ocean,

1303
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,800
which is the second in their Maldura Chance series of

1304
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,039
releases based on a like nineteenth century kind of avant

1305
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,400
garde novel. The first one was like a half hour

1306
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:33,400
kind of drone mini album, and this one is like

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01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,599
a fifteen minute actual metal album, So I don't know

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01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,920
what the's going on, but really good record and Black

1309
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,880
Curse if you like your kind of like war metal,

1310
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,519
you know, bestial black metal type stuff released Burning in

1311
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:48,800
Celestial Poison that features members of Primitive Man and Spectral

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01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,360
Voice as well, so it's part of that kind of

1313
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,199
Denver contingent. Living Gait, which is the newer death metal

1314
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,239
band featuring members of like Oathbreaker and Arman. Rah and

1315
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,679
Yob released their I think debut full length album Suffer

1316
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,800
as One Boon Well, Boon, Well, however you pronounced that one,

1317
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:08,840
which is features the singer from Oxbow, amongst other things released.

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01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,719
Mansitude Behemoth released their x x X Years of Blasphemy

1319
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,679
Live album, which is essentially a like you know, streaming

1320
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,599
live album you buy it physical as well version of

1321
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,920
one of their like live streams they did during during

1322
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,360
COVID but you know, sounds sounds really really good. We

1323
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,199
had a few EPs last week worth mentioning as well,

1324
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,320
which we had one from Enforced called a Leap into

1325
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,280
the Dark which has original material and also an obituary

1326
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,960
cover on it, so good. Pest Control as well, who

1327
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,840
obviously just been announced as an opening for that Big

1328
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,559
Knock Loose tour next year. They released an EP called

1329
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:44,599
Year of the Pest and they're just like a couple

1330
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:48,000
of really just random, like kind of grubby, metallic hardcore

1331
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:49,719
things that I sort of stumbled onto that I think

1332
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,639
are worth mentioning. That also came out recently. So this

1333
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,559
is again if you like your like bands like Renounced

1334
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:55,760
and kind of that just sort of like you know,

1335
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,800
metalcore revival type stuff. Fifteen Rema released Drawing a Lost Time,

1336
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,760
and A Year Ago Today released a self titled demo

1337
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,679
or EP called A Year Ago Today. Finally we got

1338
01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:11,079
onto today's releases the first day of November, and we

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01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:12,920
start with a fucking big one, which is the new

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,119
album from The Cure called Songs of a Lost World,

1341
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:19,400
their first record in sixteen years. I'm going to wake

1342
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,840
up tomorrow and listen to a new Cure record.

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01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: Which is that's my Coach Up to Manchester record.

1344
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: That's going to be a very nice experience. Indeed, cain Hill,

1345
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:29,239
this is kind of come out of lefto. I don't

1346
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:31,239
even really this was coming, but cain Hill are releasing

1347
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:33,639
an album called A Piece of Me I Leve and

1348
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:37,239
that You Find and they haven't released a full length

1349
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,480
like album since, like was it the second one they

1350
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,239
came in like twenty eighteen or something. Yeah, like they've

1351
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:45,119
done all sorts of EPs and business, but they're actually

1352
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,440
come up with an album finally, so that is out

1353
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,599
plan's Mistaken for Stars are releasing a record do You

1354
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:52,360
Still Love Me? And I believe that this is like

1355
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,599
a posthumous record featuring the vocals of their frontman Garrett,

1356
01:04:56,599 --> 01:04:59,079
who passed away several years ago. But you know, a

1357
01:04:59,079 --> 01:05:01,639
good under a band playing Mistaken for Stars, So that's

1358
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:04,400
a record that's worth your time. If you need some

1359
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:07,639
like violent hardcore this week. Then there's a band called

1360
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:10,760
Third Face who have released a record called Ministerial Cafeteria.

1361
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,079
We swing back towards the goth if you're on your

1362
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,280
cure kick, because we also have the new record from

1363
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,519
Tribulation called sub Rosa in Eturnum. There's also a record

1364
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:23,199
from a band called Neon Nightmare called Faded Dream, which

1365
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,079
is I guess ostensibly still sort of semi anonymous. So

1366
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:29,519
I won't go ahead and spoil the fun just yet,

1367
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,920
but it's a very open secret who it is. If you,

1368
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,639
you know, are thinking of any kind of vaguely prominent

1369
01:05:37,719 --> 01:05:40,880
doom slash heavy metal musicians who also maybe have their

1370
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,360
own podcast and also literally appeared in the music video

1371
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,920
for the new song from this band It's that guy.

1372
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,400
But basically this is like kind of super typo, negative

1373
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,119
old Danzigi type goth metal from someone who has made

1374
01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:58,760
records that are also very very good good stuff there

1375
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:01,400
Bombus if you like, kind of again sort of raggedy

1376
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,559
stone and metal. They're releasing Your Blood. Nats Mistium are

1377
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:09,559
returning after fucking a whole saga of that band being

1378
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,119
defunct and active again and defunct and everything that's gone

1379
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:15,079
on with that guy. The record is called Blight Privilege,

1380
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:17,639
which is a very stupid title that immediately kind of

1381
01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:19,840
sinks an awful lot of the good will that's maybe

1382
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,119
going on in there. But Nat Mystium are returning with

1383
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,119
a new album for the first time in full length

1384
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:28,119
albums ten years, and the last one is a record

1385
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,360
that I love very much. Then we have a band

1386
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,280
called New Skeletal Faces, which is again super goth like

1387
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,280
super I think it's out in Peaceville, and I think

1388
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,000
Travis Ryan from Couch Like's like their manager or something.

1389
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:40,199
He's the first place I heard of them. But that's

1390
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,559
again a kind of just pure goth type band the

1391
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:46,159
records called Until the Night. And finally, if you just

1392
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:50,840
want something just claustrophobically suffocating, the Extreme Mitochondrian are back

1393
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,800
with a record called Victory sep to me. Finally, that

1394
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,880
is the end of what we got for you today.

1395
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,519
Hell of a bunch to pick from there, Choose whatever

1396
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:02,239
you like. We'll be back next week with our report

1397
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,119
from Damnation Festival, which, as Sam says, in terms of

1398
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:07,280
getting a coach, we are going to be leaving for

1399
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,719
you know as you are listening to this record. So

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01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,360
we will return next week with you know, a hyperblast

1401
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,199
combined with that Damnation review, and then after that we

1402
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:19,840
will have stuff flowing on the Patreon once again, which

1403
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:22,280
again we are knee deep in terms of scripting and

1404
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,440
putting that stuff together. So thank you everybody for being

1405
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:28,719
here spending your November Firs with us as we are

1406
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:31,639
here on this Halloween night, and we will return to

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01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:34,880
your ears once again next week, So thank you. Byeye