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Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm podcast

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here on the College Gridiron Coast to Coast Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome in no A. Drury's We covered.

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five

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college football season, and welcome into the Big Ten Paradigm Show.

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My name is Noah Drury, doing the show for the

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Big Ten Paradigm this twenty twenty five football season. A

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little bit of background information on me. I am a

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graduate of spex Howard Specs at LTU now in the

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class of twenty twenty four. I have done play by

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play commentary for radio station out here in Michigan called WHMI,

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doing high school football broadcasts, also doing various universities like

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my community college, Davenport University, Cornerstone University, and along with

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a network called the National Soccer Network doing some soccer

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play by play there. But I've also done some shows

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in the past of my free time on college football,

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and I'm head to be on here covering the Big

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Ten this whole entire season on the College Gridiron Coast

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to Coast Podcast Network. And what I wanted to do

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to start off this show talking in the Big Ten

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is kind of talk about the contenders and also the

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quarterback situation. We will have Sports Illustrated writer Tom Cavanaugh

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joining us on the show here in a little bit

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to talk some Michigan State football preseasons for all our

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fans in East Lanson and across the country that represent

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the Spartans, get a little bit of a deep dive

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into that team. But let's start off here with the

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Big Ten, and they're three major contenders, and they're like, no,

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I think I know all of these major contenders, but

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I wanted to specifically talk about Ohio State, Penn State,

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and Oregon. Penn State ranked at number two and the

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Ape Pole that just dropped a couple of days ago.

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And Penn State's a team with a lot of continuity

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returning on this roster. They're one of the few teams

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in the Big Ten to have their quarterback return and

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Drew Aller and also you have Nick Singleton and k

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Tron Allen returning along with nine total offensive starters returning

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five on the defensive side fourteen total. And with Drew

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Aller this season, I think he's poised for that big

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breakout campaign. A lot of people are very hyped about

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what he can do this season and Penn State in general.

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They got a lot of returning pieces on the offensive

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line as well as we mentioned in the running back room,

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but they really hit the transfer portal hard trying to

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look for some playmakers on the outside to get the

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ball to. And Kyron Hudson from USC, He's a guy

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where I think he could be really good. He had

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its moments at USC, especially more with Kayleb Williams. He's

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kind of a guy that's just gonna on the outside

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and be able to play make Devontae Ross from Troy,

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He's a guy that had over a thousand yards last season.

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I think really step up on the other side. And

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then Trebor Penya from Syracuse. He was one of cal

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Becoord's favorite targets and you're gonna call him crazy for this.

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I watched a lot of Syracuse football last season and

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he was one of the main and playmakers along with

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le Quinn Allen in the backfield that kind of shine

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on the Syracuse team in a really surprised season for Syracuse.

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Not that we're talking the ACC here, but he's a

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guy that I think really could step up. And it

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looks like they're gonna have him slotted in the slot,

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and I think he is someone that could be a

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really big difference maker and Penn State's kind of been

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missing that true playmaker on the outside. We had Trey

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Wallace last season, you know, kind of have his moments

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and thinking, especially in that West Virginia game last season

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in Week one, that he could be this breakout star

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and just kind of never really showed this team. They

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went to the semi final play Notre Dame lost, We're

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able to be SMU and Boise State and the other

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two playoff games where the runner up in the Big

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Tens behind Oregon losing in that championship game. And then

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defensive side, why Zane Durant and Deny Dennis Sutton are

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gonna be two guys on the defensive line that they're

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gonna have to look out for. They do have Amari

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Campbell from North Carolina. It looks like he's gonna slot

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in that middle linebacker position, and then Zion Tracy on

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the outside. He's someone that I really liked in that

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nickel position and I think will do really well for

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this team. But a decent amount of returners James Franklin.

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defensive side from Ohio State, and he's someone that's been

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really good coming into coaching.

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Speaker 2: He was good at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: State, struggled in his first year at Ohio State, but

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he was able to build a solid defensive foundation in

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the years following. And they also have the second year

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under and he coled to Nicky who really did a

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really good job of scheming up Tyler Warren and also

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the running backs. And I think you'll see more of

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the same and even more you know, progressions in the

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offensive play calling in College Station Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: The second team.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about number three team in the

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eight people, Ohio State, the twenty twenty five national champions,

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and they have a little bit of an interesting quarterback

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situation right now happening. You have Julian San who was

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looking like he was gonna be the slotted starter, and

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then Lincoln Kineholes, you know, a red shirt sophomore that

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you know, he's been in this quarterback battle before, kind

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of you know, on the latter end when it was

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Devin Brown and Will Howard and then when he was

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a freshman, he was kind of just talked about as Hey,

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this guy might be a nice developmental project, a kid

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from South Dakota that was a nice MIT multi sport athlete,

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and there's a real chance between him and San Right now,

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I do think sand does get that job, but I mean,

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you never really know what can happen, and he might

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be slotted in, you know, at certain points. I know

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what they did with Devin Brown and Kyle McCord where

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he might come in in search certain situations to run

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the ball in the red zone. And I will have

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to wait and see, obviously, but it'll be interesting to

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see what Ryan Day does. This is a receiver room

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that returns pretty well with Jeremiah Smith, take Carnell or

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excuse me, Carnell Tate, and then Brandon Innis as well.

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offensive line. They have a transfer at tight end for Purdue,

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Max Claire. I think he's someone that's going to be

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a nice offensive weapon put in for this team. He

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was one to produce bright spots last year. A Purdue

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team that only returns one starter in the running back

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in mcobe.

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Speaker 2: But Max Clair was.

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Speaker 1: You know, someone that was able to play make and

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I think he'll have a nice suited role on this offense.

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Ohio State. A few bright spots Davison and Butnosen is

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someone that I thought played really well on the outside,

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Jermaine Matthews, this whole secondary as a whole. Obviously, you

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have Caleb Downs as well, and I know he's technically

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not a secondary guy, but the weak side linebackers, Sonny Styles,

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I think he's someone that could be very important, you know,

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to this team as well. But the whole pass rush

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is going to look a lot different this year. Obviously,

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with Sawyer and t JT. Tuomolaw and Ty Hamilton and

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a bunch of guys just simply off this defensive line

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doing to go play at the next level, there's gonna

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be a tough replacement. And then also losing Jim Doles

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as well. It will be interesting to see how this

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Ohio State team does going into this next season. You know,

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can they get back into that playoff, can they win

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the Big Ten this year? A lot of questions to

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be answered. But I think Ryan Day, you know, finally

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not having the pressure on him. Obviously, you have the

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whole Michigan situation and him not winning in the twenty

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twenties against that team. That's something that they're obviously going

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to try to achieve this year. But just having that

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national title is I think gonna relieve some of the

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pressure off of him. Obviously, you still have to compete

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in this season. And then Oregon at number seven and

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the eight people, they're a team where I don't know

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necessarily how they're going to finish. You lose Evan Stewart

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to injury, you lose Jordan James last year to the draft,

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you lose Dylan Gabriel obviously one of the main playmakers.

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a guy where he's probably going to be, you know,

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and he'sn't out of this world prospect in terms of

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getting a transfer tackle from Nevada. All the skill there,

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and he's someone that could be, you know, a high

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NFL draft pick if all things work out. But they

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have a quarterback in Dante more locally here in Michigan.

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I'm from the state of Michigan. He played at Detroit

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King High School has also turned out players like Sauce

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Gardner as well to the NFL. He's someone that they

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he could look He looked good at UCLA at times.

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He took a year off to sit behind and kind

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of learn.

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Speaker 1: Austin Novias said, I don't think he's really going to

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compete for a spot there and then going into the

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wide receiver room a freshman. I don't think he has

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Jeremiah Smith potential. That's not what I'm trying to say here,

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But to Corey and Moore, is someone that could really,

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you know, be that freshman sensation of this twenty twenty

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five class, kind of how Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith

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were of the twenty twenty four I think to Corey

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and Moore does this in twenty twenty five. You also

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have Kyle Casper and Gary Bryant junior as well trying

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to step up in there for Evan Stewart. On the

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defensive side, you have Matteo Ugly, someone that I think

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is going to be a very impactful edge rusher this season,

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but also a lot of people to replace on the

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defensive side of the ball as well. You lose Jordan Birch,

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someone that was really helpful on the defensive side. You

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replace a decent amount in the secondary and a lot

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of juniors on this roster. When you look at the

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depth chart, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what

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they do this season on the defensive side, because they

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were pretty sound last year, but they run a four two,

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five and four to three mix, so it will be

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interesting to see what they do. And talking more about

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the quarterback situation, obviously we know Drew Allery, we know

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Luke Altmeyer from Illinois, which we'll talk about them in

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the back end of this show. Yeah, Fermando Mendoza from Cal,

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who's someone that I really liked watching on tape and

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watching Cal games personally, just because they're typically late on

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at night and they're in the ACC as well.

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Speaker 2: It was someone that I really liked.

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Speaker 1: Demon Williams looks like he can be a sensation for

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Washington if needed to be. I think he will be

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that player. He gives me big Jan Daniels Vibes did

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really well in that Bowl game that they played in

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over in well Bull season. But yeah, there's there's a

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lot of interesting quarterback situations. You have Dylan Royola, He's

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gonna be with Dana Holgerson talk a little bit about them.

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Speaker 2: For the Trojans. It sounds like it's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be Jade and Mayeva for them and just

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Bryce underwe and Mikey Kean what does that quarterback room

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look like and the moral of the story as we

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continue to talk about these quarterbacks and where they are, Like, yes,

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you have Adan Chiles from Michigan State, he's going to

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be one of the return few returners actually back to

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their team. But there's a lot of change at the

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quarterback position in the Big Ten Conference this season, and it'll

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be interesting to see how this plays out, just because

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there's unfamiliarity and we see a lot of the times

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that you know, first year systems. Obviously, in college, you

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only have four seasons to compete. It's not like you're

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in the NFL and you have years and years under

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the system and the same coaching staff and the same coordinator.

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You know, a lot of change happens at the college

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game in terms of players leaving and going coaches flipping

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from going to coordator to head coach, you're taking a

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different coordinator job at another school. It'll be interesting to

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see with a bunch of a new Big Ten quarterbacks

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this season, you know who's gonna rise to the cream

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of the crop. Obviously there's a team game. You gotta

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play all the other positions as well. But I think

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this team, or these teams in the Big Ten, you know,

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quarterbacks is going to be a very important position that

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they have to take into consideration and really have to

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evaluate throughout the rest of fall camp and even in

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those early weeks if they need to make a switch.

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There's a lot of new but I think it will

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be interesting to see how all these quarterbacks play out.

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And I'm not going to give any projections of oh, well,

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this quarterback is going to be better than this quarterback,

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but I will say two qbs that I am very

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excited to watch this season stepping into a new role

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or Demond Williams and Fernando Mendoza, and those two guys

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I think will be so when you want to especially

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see in the early season. As I know Indiana, everyone

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keeps knocking on them for their reschedule across social media,

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especially on the Twitter fan base of college football fans.

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And then I think also Demond Williams for Washington, I

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think Washington's gonna have a nice bounce back season. Am

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I saying they're going to make.

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Speaker 2: The College football Playoff?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but I do think Washington is a great

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team that I think they could do a really good

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job this season, have a nice bounce back for Jedfish.

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They didn't finished bad last year. I think they could

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continue to take those steps. You know, keep in mind

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in the twenty twenty three season, they were competing at

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the top of the Pac twelve. You know, they made

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the College Football National Championship. They beat Texas. The team

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ranked number one in eight people.

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Speaker 2: But I digress.

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Speaker 1: We will be joining Tom cavan all to talk about

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the Michigan State Spartans and kind of what's the expectation

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of that team. You know, who are some transfer guys

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and kind of all Michigan State, you know, all the

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talk in East Lansing. What's going to happen with the

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team in green and white? And welcome on the show,

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Tom Cavanaugh here on the Big Den Paradigm.

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Speaker 2: Tom, how are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. No, good to be with you, man.

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Good to talk some Spartan football.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the people that do not know you.

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Give yourself a little bit of a background on where

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you come from and why you're here on today's show.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent Detroit native, grew up here my whole life.

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Recently a writer for Sports Illustrated with Michigan State, got

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to meet you, Noah through doing some sports broadcasting, so

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partial writer while also you know, being behind the microphone

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doing some stuff like this, either on the radio or

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calling live games. I know, me and you both work

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together at a Mott Community College out there in Flint, Michigan.

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But you know, great family, two younger brothers, great parents,

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and you know, just a big sports fan all around,

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and football, even though I come from a baseball background

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a little bit more, football just grabs me a little

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bit more so. Talking MSU football today with you, you know,

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it gets me going.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some Michig State business. A

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team that you know doesn't have necessarily high expectations, they've

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been doing a better job in year two in terms

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of the recruiting department under Jonathan Smith, nine projected returning

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starters five on the offense, four on the defense, according

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to CBS Sports. I wanted to ask, first off, what

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is your expectation for Jonathan Smith under him in the

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tenure for his year two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a big question asked

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around all of East Lansing and anybody really questioning, you know,

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that middle to lower tier the Big Ten, because I mean,

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just to give it to you straight, just progress. I

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don't think this team, and they have some great talent,

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we'll get into it. I don't think this team's going

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to be competing for a Big Ten title because it's

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so top heavy when you look at the Ohio States,

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the Penn State, Oregon, so of the world inside of

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this conference. I just don't think Michigan State is there

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right now talent wise, and just the beginning of Jonathan

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Smith's tenure, as you mentioned, his second year. So I'd

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like to see some progress. You know, you're coming off

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of five and seventh season. I know melt Tucker led

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them to that eleven win year, winning the Chick fil

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A Bowl behind Kenneth Walker, but this is a whole

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new regime that Jonathan Smith has brought in. So I'd

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love to see a Bowl game this year. I think

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that's kind of, you know, the spot you need to

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get to six seven wins and also be competitive within

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the Big Ten. I mean, you take a back look

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at last year. This team swept their first three games,

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and one of them was a big ten win defeating

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Maryland twenty seven to twenty four. So you start one

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to zer one conference play, which was very impressive. You

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also knock off Florida Atlantic and Prairie View A and

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M games you should win, and then you lose six

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out of your last seven after that Boston College. Then

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you take on a gauntlet in Ohio State and Oregon,

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those two pretty unwinnable games just because of how darn

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good those teams were last year. You know, you beat

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Iowa and then a Michigan, Indiana Illinois losing streak there

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three in a row. You get one back on Perdue

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and finish up with Rutgers in a blowout forty one

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to fourteen loss. I think you need to be more

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competitive with a lot of these middle tier teams. Looking

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at this season, you know you don't play Ohio State,

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you only play Penn State. You don't have Oregon on

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the ticket, but you do have Michigan, obviously, Indiana, Nebraska,

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who is supposed to be pretty darn good, Penn State

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around there. You stay competitive in a lot of these

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one two score games, but you also pick up three

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big ten wins, maybe four if you could surprise some people,

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because I think this team is better than advertised right

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now when they're kind of ranked in the lower i'd

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say bottom half, lower nine teams of this eighteen team conference.

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I have some hopes and some optimism for him. I think.

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So so get to six seven wins, show some progress,

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and I think this team will be a lot better

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off in the coming years.

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Speaker 1: When taking a look at this team, you see a

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lot of transfer acquisition. If you look a lot of

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the practice reports and projected depth charts, there's a lot

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of transfers from you know, FCS, MAC, you know group

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of five schools that could have an impact on this

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Spartan team. Name one or two guys you think that

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will have a big impact in this twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 3: Oh man two. I mean I look up and down

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this roster and I see three or four, But if

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I had to pick two, We'll start off on the

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offensive line. That is a position that I think is

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going to grow a lot this season, and it starts

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with Connor Moore. He's a red shirt junior coming over

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from Montana State. You mentioned the FCS, They're a powerhouse

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over there, and he was regarded as one of the

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best offensive linemen in the country last year inside of

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the FCS. I mean you could compare him to Will

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Campbell type of emergence this year, the kid out of

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LSU that was drafted by the Patriots in the first round.

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He's that big at six and sixty five pounds, has

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maybe even gotten a little bit more. That's just what

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ESPN is saying right now. But you know, through those

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first couple of weeks of practice and training camp they're

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going through leading up into the season, he's going to

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be a guy to watch on that offensive line. They're

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going to move him around a little bit. Right now,

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they have him slotted as a right tackle. I think

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he'll stay there, but obviously, with injuries last year, that

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was a position that was jumbled up. A lot guys

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had to move positions. So I'd say Connor Moore for

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won the red shirt junior offensive tackle, and then Omari Kelly.

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He is a Bolitanikoff watch list member given to the

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number one receiver in the country, something that I think

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Nick marsh the returning wide receiver for MSU, the number

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one star there, he should be on that watch list

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he was not. But Amari Kelly, he's a senior He

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comes over from Middle Tennessee, spent his first two years

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at Auburn, did not play very much. He only caught

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five passes, but he tore it up for the Raiders

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at Middle Tennessee fifty three total catches, eight hundred and

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sixty nine yards and four touchdowns. He was their highlight piece.

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And when you take him, you put him with marsh

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and then I'll throw in another wide receiver there in

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the transfer portal. Kreshan McCrae coming from Kent State. No,

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as you know, I mean we both know that Mack

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pretty well. How many games did Kent State win last year?

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Speaker 2: Two? Three?

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Speaker 3: Let me double check, But I didn't think they want

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to game last year. This Krashan McCray is going to

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be hungry. He's a junior and you take McCrae, Omari Kelly,

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and Nick marsh Aiden Childs has a myriad of different

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options to throw to and when.

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Speaker 2: You call they yeah, they went going to twelve last year.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think it was nothing. So he is extremely hungry

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to compete at the highest level and get a college

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football win after last year was such a struggle. So

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Krashan McCray, Omari Kelly on the outside working with marsh

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and then also Connor Moore on the inside, pass pro

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and also run blocking for a couple of transfer guys

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we'll talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at the twenty four to seven

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and all the you know on three and all these sites,

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you know, just seeing Michigan State, you know, kind of

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stockpiling on the transfers this offseason. They have twenty three

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total coming in. How much will make an impact probably

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anywhere from like ten to fifteen with this Michigan State team,

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whether they'll be starting or you know, be you know,

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key role players. Try to rotate players on the offense

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and defensive line. I think this Michigan State team, you know,

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with a bunch of guys not being in there for

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that twenty four season and having guys departing in twenty

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twenty three, just trying to rebuild and get quality pieces

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on the field to try to establish something in a program.

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I think that's something that should be very important to

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this coaching smat staff and Jonathan Smith as well.

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Speaker 3: Extremely And there's another guy you talk about the defensive side,

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Jordan Hall. He took a major step back last year

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just because of Cal Holliday and you also had Jordan

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Turner who were the main linebackers. He barely played last

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year and didn't make many tackles. He's going to be

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thrust into that middle linebacker position, going to command that defense.

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So you could kind of take him, not really as

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a transfer, obviously he's been in this program, but he's

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a guy that I think is going to have upwards

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of forty tackles this year, maybe a couple of sacks,

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because that's one thing MSU needs to improve on is

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their pass rush and get into the quarterback. They were

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the worst team in the Big Ten last year in

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sacking and pressure.

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Speaker 1: What position group do you think will have the most

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improvement from last season? Obviously a bunch of different routes

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you could go just in terms. I think special teams

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is one that you won't name, but.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Eckley he's supposed to be darn good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan Kim was pretty good last year. But what

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position group maybe on one side of the ball, even

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both that you think you'll you think we will see

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tremendous improvement from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna stick with the offensive side

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because I mean, this team really struggled offensively last year,

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and it wasn't all on Aiden Chiles, and I'm gonna

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give you two because they work in tandem together, and

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I've already kind of mentioned and prefaced players in those positions.

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It's gonna be the offensive line as well as the

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wide receiver group because it was Nick marsh and a

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Lante Brown last year and Jack Velling who only had

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one touchdown catch last year, as that, you know, a

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big tight end piece coming from Oregon State. But you

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add as we mentioned McCray and Kelly, there's a lot

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of pass catching options and then obviously that offensive line

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bolstering up. It is extremely veteran. And when you look

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up and down, you have three transfer starters on the

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offensive line, including Connor Moore, you got Luka Vincich he's

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a red shirt junior, and Matt Gulbin along with Christian

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Phillips and Stanton Rammel. That is an extremely veteran group.

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I think Rammel is the youngest out of that as

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a red shirt sophomore, and he was played a little

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bit of an injury last year. That also kind of

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factored in Christian Phillips as well. He got hurt very

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early in the season. You keep those guys healthy. I mean, Noah,

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Aiden Chiles was sacked thirty times last year. That cannot

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happen if this tame.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that can evade, evade the pocket and

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make throws outside of it as well. So I mean

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for him to take thirty sacks is right, it's something

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you don't want to have happen. I mean, that's equivalent

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to that's about four sacks a game, which could really,

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you know, change a ballgame.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and you saw it in the Iowa game

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that they won on homecoming in Spartan Stadium. He shows,

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I mean some incredible flashes of just being able to

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you know, make impromptu plays, use his feet, throw on

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the run, even run the ball himself. But I think

478
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if he's got more time in the pocket, his offensive

479
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line sustains a little bit longer. And with all the

480
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different options in the wide receiver there, and you add

481
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in Jack Belling, who I think is going to have

482
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a much better season at the tout end position, Aiden

483
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,519
Child is going to throw for a lot of yards.

484
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If he brings the interceptions down, this team could average

485
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,480
anywhere from twenty to twenty four points per game. Just

486
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because of the raw talent they have on the outside

487
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and on that front.

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Speaker 1: Four way to foreshadow this next question, how much of

489
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an improvement does in Giles need to have.

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Speaker 2: For an order from MSU to take that next step.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I think he's got to take

492
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a huge step forward. I mean last year the one

493
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,559
thing that really rung true with people was the turnovers.

494
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I know he only lost two, maybe three fumbles, but

495
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he coughed it up four or five, maybe six times.

496
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And it was that along with the decision making when

497
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160
letting the ball out of his hand. A lot of

498
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,920
costly interceptions. I remember one back against It was actually

499
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a fumble against Oregon at the goal line, right on

500
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the one yard line, and I'm probably not going to

501
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,759
win that ball game, but still it's moments like that

502
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,839
where in big games, you're playing in Michigan and you

503
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,480
give up a costly fumble like that or an interception,

504
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,200
that needs to be the turning point. And I think

505
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,920
a huge hire that Jonathan Smith made this year was

506
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quarterback coach John Boyer, who's coming over from Oregon State.

507
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,559
He worked with dj Uyjungalalay and Childs together when Chiles

508
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:20,200
was a freshman with the Beavers. So you bring Boyer

509
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,680
in along with a couple other Oregon State former coaches

510
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that worked with Smith now on this spartan coaching staff.

511
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I mean that is going to be so big for

512
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him because we've seen, as I mentioned, ability to make

513
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plays with his fee. He's so athletic, he has an

514
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,799
incredible arm, and I think he could be a top

515
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,319
five quarterback in the country. Maybe not this year, but

516
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,640
give it to his senior year. If he's able to

517
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take steps in the right direction and just progress a

518
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,680
little bit this season, next year I think is a real,

519
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,920
real breakout season for Raiding Chiles. I'm optimistic about him.

520
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:52,119
A lot of people have their doubts, but give the

521
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kid a little bit more time and work in as

522
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a starting quarterback, because you have to remember last year

523
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:58,960
was his first year as a starter in one of

524
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,680
the toughest Big Ten Conference schedules that you could have had.

525
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Speaker 1: So right, and I think people forget that he was

526
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nineteen playing and I think eighteen at one point playing

527
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last year because he was a he enrolled at Oregon

528
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,640
State when he was seventeen, I'm pretty sure and reclassified.

529
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So I mean he's still a really he's gonna be

530
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,160
like twenty years old, and you know, playing this year

531
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,720
like he's still a young quarterback. And we had guys

532
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,319
like Tyler Shock who just played at Louisville and got

533
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,920
drafted at the age of twenty five. So it just

534
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,319
it's gonna be a development process for him. And he's

535
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someone who hasn't had a lot of game experience at

536
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,960
the college level until last season. And I mean, he

537
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,359
was thrown into a fire with the team that you

538
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,440
know wasn't completely put together. If you watch it, they

539
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960
had their moments against like Ohio State, you know in

540
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,279
that first half, you know they were competing back and forth.

541
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:51,079
Iowa win was huge, but in obviously the Maryland game,

542
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240
like they had some good moments last season, but I

543
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,759
think just being able to do it on a consistent basis,

544
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where like you mentioned, this is probably gonna be you

545
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:05,079
hope for a seven win season, but we'll have to

546
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,839
wait and see on that. It's really gonna come down

547
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,400
to how else the Big Ten plays out, because I

548
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
think across the Big Ten, I think you could attest

549
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,119
to this that this is gonna be one of those

550
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,519
wild card years just in the sheer fact that there's

551
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,839
a lot of inexperience at quarterback for a lot of

552
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:25,599
these teams in terms of first year starters.

553
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,759
Speaker 2: So it will be interesting.

554
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Speaker 1: Do you think the recruiting strategy of going out of

555
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:34,559
state primarily in this class of twenty twenty six is

556
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,240
it a short term thing or is it something we

557
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,559
could see for a long time.

558
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Speaker 2: With Jonathan Smith.

559
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna happen for a while. I mean,

560
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you look over and you mentioned two four seven Sports,

561
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,599
who gives a lot of good context on recruits MSU

562
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,839
For the twenty twenty six class twenty six total commits,

563
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,480
twenty two of those are out of state. Now, we

564
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,039
love our guys from in state, you know, the homegrown talent.

565
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,799
That's awesome, but you got a branch out. You remember

566
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,920
back to Charles Brantley, who was one of our top

567
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,160
quarterbacks in the last couple of years. He came from Siasota, Florida,

568
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440
and so being able to recruit on all corners of

569
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,319
the United States and even beyond. I mean, I think

570
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,279
Smith is really is a national guy. He has great

571
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:16,319
relationships and recruiting tactics out there on the West Coast.

572
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:19,000
You just name drop a couple of guys here. You

573
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,359
had four star offensive line Colin Campbell, He's coming from Arizona.

574
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,039
I mentioned Florida. This four star wide receiver in Tyrone Worthen,

575
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,880
he's going to be a stud. And then from New Jersey,

576
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,160
three star linebacker and Spartan legacy Adamshaw. Those are just

577
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:36,599
to rattle off a few guys from out of state

578
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
that I think are going to be big pieces for

579
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,519
this program next year and then moving forward. MSU does

580
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,400
not get the credit they deserve right now. Looking back,

581
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,720
I think it was about a month or so ago

582
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,279
they were ranked eleventh in the Big Ten in recruiting rankings,

583
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:53,839
which was appalling just because of how well they had

584
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,240
done grabbing twenty six recruits. Their month to June was incredible.

585
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,240
I feel like every single day I was covered.

586
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,079
Speaker 1: And yeah, I follow a good amount of Spartan pages

587
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,680
and I saw like this kid's committed today, you know

588
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,160
that commit.

589
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Speaker 2: I think there was like four commits in one day

590
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,519
over the off so yeah, and there were guys too, Yeah.

591
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Speaker 1: So it's impressive to see, you know, just winning those

592
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,599
battles where Michigan State obviously you're not going to probably

593
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,039
get into that blue chip ratio where you know you're

594
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:23,279
having the sixty percent amount of kids you know that

595
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,400
are four and five stars, like you're going to really

596
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,240
have to be homegrown and kind of just build the

597
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:31,359
talent the way Michigan did when they went on their

598
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,839
successful run. Like, yes, they did get high recruits, but

599
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
a lot of those players, you know, they were three

600
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,160
low end four star guys that you know, they had

601
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,119
to develop over time and they got transfer portal acquisitions

602
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160
that they needed. So if Michigan State not saying they

603
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,559
have to follow the same philosophy as our rival, because

604
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,279
I wouldn't want them to do that, I would say

605
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,039
that just being able to establish that culture and get

606
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,119
some sort of player development, and also just have continuity

607
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,720
in the coaching staff I think are going to be

608
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,319
really key three key things going forward for this team.

609
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think MSU, even back to the

610
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:11,039
D'Antonio days, they thrived in situations where they had, as

611
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,680
you mentioned, the high three star, low four star players

612
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,480
and they're going up and knocking off Ohio State at

613
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,799
the shoe. That's something that just this program, you know,

614
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,319
it resonates in them because when you think about football

615
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,000
in the state of Michigan. Everybody thinks about the Wolverines.

616
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,400
That's one of the number one brands in all of

617
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,720
college football, as it should be with their historical success,

618
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,960
recent success, and just the brand name itself. So when

619
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,039
you look at a lot of five stars, high end

620
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,559
four stars, they're usually picking Michigan to go there. And

621
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,759
I think Michigan State, as you mentioned, you build that culture,

622
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,119
you make the facilities top notch, rivaling even better than

623
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,720
what Michigan has, and make East Lansing feel like a

624
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:53,440
home to a lot of these guys that are coming

625
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680
from out of state. Bringing back to your original questions,

626
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,400
So I think this team going forward in the future

627
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,319
years is going to be better, and I think that

628
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
Jonathan Smith is definitely taking them in the right direction

629
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,799
and building that culture and having that, you know, high output,

630
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:11,119
low ego type type of mentality, and they're gonna surprise

631
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,000
some people, not only this year but in the future.

632
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,839
So I got some high hopes for the next several years. No,

633
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,599
it's gonna be good.

634
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,759
Speaker 1: Well, Tom, we appreciate you joining us here on the

635
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,759
Big ten paradigm, and coming up next, we're gonna talk

636
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,160
about some of the other people or other teams that

637
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,319
will not necessarily be contenders, but we will see going

638
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,440
on to try to contend for a playoff spot here

639
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,039
in the twenty twenty five season. And welcome back to

640
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,359
the Big Ten paradigm here special thanks to Tom Cavanaugh

641
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,839
here for joining us this lovely preview episode talking about

642
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,279
the Spartans, and we shall see how the Spartans do

643
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,640
and who knows, if they continue to have a good season,

644
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,519
have a big upset win maybe across the schedule, maybe

645
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,559
they'll have to bring them back on. But for now,

646
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,640
we're gonna talk about teams that necessarily aren't listed as

647
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680
the can tenders, but teams that I think have a

648
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,079
pretty good shot of maybe making some noise in the

649
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:09,079
Big Ten and being in that college football playoff push.

650
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,759
So we are still in a twelve team playoff. Let's

651
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,480
talk about the Michigan Wolverines to start out here in

652
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,799
this second part of the episode, Bryce underwo the main

653
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,799
guy for this Wolverine squads, the big headline, the big

654
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,160
commitment in recruitment, getting him to flip from the LSU Tigers.

655
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,400
It's one of the best things that could happen for

656
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,799
this program if.

657
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: It all works.

658
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,079
Speaker 1: Out obviously a young freshman, you know, an eighteen to

659
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,960
nineteen year old kid getting ready to play potentially QB

660
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:42,359
one snaps now while they go with Mikey Keen, the

661
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,400
transfer from Fresno State, he did a pretty good job

662
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,759
against Michigan, was really solid. Also played at UCF as

663
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,599
well earlier in his career. Someone that you know, he's

664
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480
just gonna go out and sling it. Not necessarily you know,

665
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,880
quarterback that is going to kind of keep it SAME's

666
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
someone that likes to get after it, and I just

667
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,440
don't think necessarily Michigan has the play style for that.

668
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,799
Like Mikey Kean went to let's say Ohio State, he

669
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,000
might be more suited there with the weapons that they have.

670
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Not to say that the Michigan receivers are bad, just

671
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,920
not the level of playmakers that you would have at

672
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960
like an Ohio State or you know, even like an

673
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,920
LSU Alabama this season. But nonetheless, I think Bryce Underwood,

674
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
you know, he's a great dual threat quarterback option. A

675
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,279
lot of people don't realize, but he's one of the

676
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,039
really good runners. If you look at some of his

677
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,640
high school tape, a lot of his highlights are him

678
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,240
in open space. That's a guy that could get it done.

679
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,880
I'm also a big fan of Justice Haynes. You know,

680
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
thought he was gonna get it going at Alabama last year.

681
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Didn't necessarily have that breakout that you want, you know,

682
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,920
a sophomore running back, but a lot of talent, great

683
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,279
speed and agility. That's one of the things that I

684
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,960
watched some of their spring tape last year and a

685
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,400
few of the games in the beginning of this season

686
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,920
for Alabama. He's someone that I think could have a

687
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,679
big impact in this ground game for the Wolverenes. Offensive

688
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,480
line wise, they're starting a sophomore red shirt Evan Link

689
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,719
at left sackle and at right sackle. They're starting a

690
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,920
red shirt freshman and Andrew Sprague. Two seniors and Giovanni

691
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,639
el Hatty and Greg Crippen and the Nathan o'fabi at

692
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,000
the right guard position. Not a lot of seniority on

693
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,400
this offensive line, so it'll will it will be interesting

694
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,960
to see how they performed throughout this season. But we

695
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,360
know Michigan they're really good at developing on the line

696
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,199
of scrimmage, and I think Sharon Moore, you know, being

697
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,480
an offensive line oriented guy before he became an offensive coordinator.

698
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,639
I think he'll have these boys in good shape in

699
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,840
the receiver room. They got the transfer Donovan McCauley. McCauley

700
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,639
did not play for the Hoosiers last season, opted into

701
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,079
the transfer portal before the season started, but wasn't able

702
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,079
to make a mid season transfer just because it's not

703
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:05,719
allowed to happen. A big, physical guy that I think

704
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,599
has has a chance. Uh six' five two fifteen and

705
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,000
twenty twenty three put up six hundred and forty four

706
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,360
yards with six touchdowns for The hugers and a year

707
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,320
that wasn't so great For, indiana not obviously this season

708
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,159
like they had last. Year, though someone will bring up

709
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,000
as we've brought Up Formanda mendoza in the show. Already

710
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,559
you also Have Frederick moore In Shamage. MORGAN i Think,

711
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,199
morgan you, know he had his moments where he just

712
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,639
didn't really look.

713
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: COMPLETE i think he's someone that could be a.

714
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,159
Speaker 1: PLAYMAKER i watched him in decent bit in high school

715
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,199
as well At West. BLOOMFIELD i think he could be

716
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,280
a really solid. Guy and defensively.

717
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot to.

718
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: REPLACE i Like Derek, MOORE i Like Ernest, hassman the

719
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,400
transfer they got a couple of years ago From. Nebraska

720
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,480
Jay Or hill is another guy THAT i really. Like

721
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:55,920
but there's a lot of Replace you will Get Rod

722
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,719
moore at some point in this. Season obviously he went

723
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,119
down with the end last year that had him sidelined

724
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:07,519
for the rest of the. Season two defensive transfers at nose,

725
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:12,920
tackle you have the transfer From Kalents, Clemson Trey. Williams

726
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,239
and then also at the nickelback, position they have the

727
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,480
transfer From ARKANSAS Tk, metcalf who had a pretty solid

728
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,199
twenty twenty four. Season there's a lot of development to

729
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,559
be made on This michigan team on both sides of the.

730
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,079
Ball also a lot of development from year one to

731
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,039
year two With Sharon. Moore as we talked about it

732
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:33,840
With Jonathan. Smith you, Know michigan still ended up having

733
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,159
a solid season last, year ended up winning a Good

734
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,119
bowl game Versus. Alabama they were still able to beat

735
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,719
the buck. Guys they just had those games against you,

736
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,719
Know illinois where they just kind of came out flat

737
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,920
and really didn't do anything game Against. Oregon BUT i

738
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,480
think just the, transition everything that happened With michigan in

739
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,639
that twenty twenty three season from winning the national championship

740
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,480
and The Conner stallions and also losing you, know your

741
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,239
quarterback AND jj McCarthy a decent amount of playmakers too

742
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,239
In Roman. Wilson you Had Colston lovelin last. Season BUT i,

743
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,639
mean this team's got to kind of revamp and find

744
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,199
their own. IDENTITY i know there's The michigan program identity

745
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,559
of we're toughly built and we're going to do great

746
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,639
things and we're a. Team but you gotta, find you,

747
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,360
know what makes this group, Special what is going to

748
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,360
take this team to the next step and get them

749
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,199
to that promised. LAND i think that's what you really

750
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,400
want to see from This wolverine. Squads talk about the next,

751
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,679
team the finding a LINE i ranked twelfth in THE Ap.

752
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,440
POLL a lot of, hype and it's because they have

753
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,320
a lot of returning talent on this. Team they have

754
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,760
sixteen total starters returning And Luke altmeyer the quarterback returning

755
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,079
for his red shirt senior. Season he started his career

756
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,840
out At Ole. Miss now with The Fighting. LINE i

757
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,320
had a pretty good twenty twenty four. Season he's someone

758
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,239
THAT i did think impressed in his career twenty two,

759
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:08,119
touchdowns six, interceptions round sixty one completion percentage twenty seven

760
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:12,480
hundred and seventeen, yards and the seven point eight yards per.

761
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,800
Attempt pretty solid, stats AND i think they could continue

762
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,159
to go. Up you, Know Brett, bielomo he's gonna try

763
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,320
to be a physical, team have physical guys do their.

764
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Job but on the. Outside they Lose Pat bryant this.

765
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,039
YEAR i think he was someone that was a nice

766
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,960
playmaker for This illinois. Team same With Sakari. FRANKLIN i

767
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,079
thought he did really well last season for This alignied.

768
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:40,119
Team now to be League Malik, Eisley Hudson, clement And Colin,

769
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,719
dixon who are gonna really have to step. Up they

770
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,679
have a lot of returning on the offensive, line four,

771
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,360
seniors one, junior and even some depth with some sophomores

772
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,840
and also a couple of seniors and transfers as. WELL

773
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000
i think This illinois team just the amount of. Experience you,

774
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,639
Know it's kind of like that college basketball team that

775
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,920
has all. Seniors you, know a nice mid major or

776
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,480
you know a team in The Big east or a

777
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,039
team in The big twelve that just has a lot

778
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:13,199
of experience playing together with each. Other and you're, like,

779
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,079
yeah we can go out make a. Run on the defensive,

780
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:20,480
side they Have Gabe. Jackets the kids been all over

781
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,400
the preseason All american. BOARDS i think he's someone that

782
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920
could be a special playmaker on the defensive, side you,

783
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,000
know coming off the, edge also being able to drop

784
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,440
back and, coverage AND i mean the rest of their

785
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,599
defense they return a lot as, well and they also

786
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,039
have a lot of.

787
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Experience, experience, experience.

788
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,079
Speaker 1: EXPERIENCE i think that's going to be the most important

789
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,719
team and the most or the most important thing for

790
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,199
this team and the most thing talked about for this

791
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,400
LION i team when they continue to go down and

792
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,159
through their, schedule AND i think the last team we

793
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:56,519
have to talk, about WHICH i don't know IF i

794
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,599
really believe they should be in this position or. Not

795
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,599
and Then i'll throw a couple of a other teams

796
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,760
out here THAT i think could also make a push as.

797
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Well But indiana being ranked at, twenty ended off the

798
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:08,559
season really.

799
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Good last.

800
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,639
Speaker 1: Year you make a playoff appearance in a year where

801
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,880
you have a first year head coach and you know,

802
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960
things you know they're supposed to be, exciting but they're

803
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,320
not necessarily supposed to go well as a first year,

804
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,320
coach especially at a school Like, indiana a team that

805
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,880
prior to last SEASON i think made six bold appearances

806
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,760
in thirty, seasons team that doesn't put out a lot

807
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,159
OF nfl, guys a team that's considered a basketball.

808
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: School they did the. Unthinkable AND.

809
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot From big ten media. Days

810
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:42,760
Kurt signetti is very high about this team and they

811
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480
have a very exciting quarterback In Fernando. MENDOZ i watched

812
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:48,719
them play At. Cal really good kid in terms of

813
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,320
throwing the. Rock three thousand, yards sixteen, touchdowns six interceptions

814
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,280
at A cal team WHICH i know they had the.

815
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,159
Calgorithm and you, know all this hype and stuff first

816
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,280
year in THE, acc they weren't bad last. Year shout

817
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,000
out to coach Will cox, there and, YEAH i Think Fernando.

818
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,480
Mendoza you, know he's got a good, frame he's got

819
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,079
good pro, potential but you, know being a red shirt

820
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:13,760
junior last year's first real year of, PLAYING i think

821
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,119
this kid's got the talent to keep This indiana offense

822
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,480
Because curtis work he was injured last year when he

823
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,039
was at my or Not Miami, ohio, sorry when he

824
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,199
was in the mac At. Ohio he did a really

825
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,599
good job of being an improviser and being able to make.

826
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,159
Throws really didn't show off that mobility last, year and

827
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,480
we come to find out that he was playing on

828
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,159
some sort of torn. Lookment i'm pretty sure it was

829
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:36,760
a torn meniscus the whole year and didn't opt in

830
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,639
to get, surgery which is. Crazy BUT i, think you,

831
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:46,480
know Having Curtis work now To Fernando, mendoza just an

832
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,760
experienced quarterback that your confident can make the, throws because

833
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,760
that's one Thing Curtis work could, do was make the.

834
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: Throws If Caitlin.

835
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: Black, returning you, know a guy that got some, touches

836
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,039
forty six touches for two hundred and fifty, yards it'll

837
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:04,280
be interesting to see how he does With Roman hemby

838
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,480
in the. Backfield offensive line, lies you, know they have

839
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,960
a couple of transfers projected to start on this. Team at,

840
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,239
center it's going to Be Pat coogan From Notre, dame

841
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:18,320
and then on the right tackle it'll Be zen mcgowski

842
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,159
From Ohio. State so some big obviously two national championship,

843
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,880
players you, know Both redcherd seniors didn't see much playing

844
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,559
experience at their prior. Schools they look going to make

845
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,639
an impact on This huger's, team along with Three Red

846
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,159
schard juniors And Carter smith at the left, Tackle Drew

847
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,920
evans that left, guard and Then Bray lynch at the

848
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,559
right guard. POSITION i Like elijah sharrat. Here he almost

849
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,920
had a thousand yards last season eighteen point one yards

850
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:51,280
average on receptions with eighteen, touchdowns a transfer From James,

851
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,119
madison which a lot of the guys that stepped up

852
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,559
last year came From James. Madison on the defensive, SIDE

853
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,960
i really Like DiAngelo. Pons he was someone that was

854
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,119
really good on the outside for this team and had

855
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:06,760
his big moments three, interceptions nine pass. Breakups, kid that's

856
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,199
also From James. MADISON i think this team is going

857
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:14,119
to do. Good you, know on the defensive, side they

858
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:17,159
weren't necessarily, bad BUT i think we could, see you,

859
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,639
know even more physicality up on that front. Line BUT

860
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,880
i really liked how this secondary looked last, year AND

861
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,320
i think they have a chance to.

862
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: Do that again this.

863
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Season you Got Amar farrell who was in that safety.

864
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: Spot he ended up having four. Picks was nice in

865
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,119
the running lanes as.

866
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: Well it'll be interesting to see how This hoosiers team

867
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,360
does throughout the whole. SEASON i think a team Like

868
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,239
nebraska could also surprise some. People, YES i know we

869
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,320
say that here and, there kind of like How texas

870
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:47,440
is going to be. Back we Expect nebraska to be

871
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:50,559
back at some. Point i'm just concerned what's gonna happen

872
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,000
on the defensive side of the. Ball there Obviously Tony

873
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,400
white going To Florida. State you, know how does that team?

874
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,280
Look but on the offensive, side they get a couple

875
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,320
of impactful, transfers one in, Particular Dane, key THAT i

876
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,320
think is going to do pretty. Well you also HAVE

877
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,320
usc With Lincoln. Riley you, know how do they. Look

878
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,920
they've been really focusing on the defensive side of the,

879
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,519
ball As Jade mayeva do along with you, know a

880
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,599
lot of older players transferring. Out you still Have Jacobe

881
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,280
lane and Mackay, lemon two guys THAT i think could.

882
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,119
Good you also Got prince stratchin From Boise. State how

883
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,280
does he fit in with this? Team got a lot

884
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,639
of young guys to be excited as. Well, DEFENSIVELY i,

885
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,079
mean you Return Eric, gentry BUT i mean for the most,

886
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,159
part his team's gonna look a little bit. Different Kamari

887
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,159
ramsey was on this team last year. Too it'll be

888
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,039
interesting to see what they do with their defensive identity

889
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,480
BECAUSE i know that's something That Lincoln riley and his.

890
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:46,159
Staff they're really trying to set the tone there on

891
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,800
The trojans defensive side of the. BALL i Think, washington

892
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,039
while they might not be big ten, CONTENDERS i think

893
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:55,519
they'll surprise a lot of. PEOPLE i really like What

894
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,480
jedfish did and year one kind of with the cards

895
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,519
he was dealt. Obviously, yeah, well they love their transfer

896
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:06,000
quarterback And Mark renownski From South Dakota state a lot

897
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:09,679
of hype around. Him it'll be interesting to see what

898
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,360
they do with The Caleb johnson.

899
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,519
Speaker 2: Replacement will they be able to throw the ball?

900
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Around will it kind of just be This iowa team that's,

901
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,119
gonna you, know, stay stay ground and pound and win

902
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:24,800
the field, position do all those things, Defensively it'll be

903
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,639
interesting to see who's gonna be the. Star you Lose

904
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,199
castro on the, outside you Lose higgins in the, Middle

905
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,639
it'll be interesting to see who's gonna step up on

906
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:34,920
the defensive. Side BECAUSE i was good for turning out

907
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480
a few defensive players in an offensive lineman or. Two

908
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:40,760
other than, THAT i don't have too much to, Say

909
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,840
Like i'm not gonna talk About purdue In northwestern just.

910
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,760
Yet that's something WHERE i want to see some tape on,

911
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,519
them Especially perdue considering they only have one returning starter

912
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,840
For barry Odom. SQUAD u See la With nico is

913
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,599
gonna be interesting and you'll see How rutgers will do this.

914
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:59,639
Season ant they And Klai, ycmannus you, know they provides

915
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,760
some ability there at the quarterback. Position, wisconsin that's Something

916
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,400
i'm gonna need to see played out because The Luke

917
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,280
fickle experience has not gone particularly. Well let's say so,

918
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,760
Far minnesota will be an interesting. Team and Then maryland

919
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,320
With Mike. Loxley you, know is this going to be

920
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,079
the last season For Mike's. Locksley we shall. See but

921
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,559
that is the end of the episode here of The

922
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,760
Big ten preview here on The Big Ten paradigm show

923
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,840
hosted By Noah.

924
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,159
Speaker 2: DRURY i want to.

925
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Say thank you for listening to the preview AND i

926
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,079
cannot wait for the college football season to. Start we're

927
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,519
only so Close week. Zero we don't have Any Big ten,

928
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:44,840
action but at the end of the. Month i'm pretty

929
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,280
Sure Michigan stay plays on That august twenty, NINTH i,

930
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,559
KNOW i have that game. Selected they'll Play Western. Michigan

931
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,800
and we'll look at the week one, schedule you, know

932
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,639
how is it all gonna. Play just for those who

933
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,840
are not gonna be, familiar this show will be coming

934
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,039
out either On mondays Or tuesdays during the, week you,

935
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:06,360
know so.

936
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: We'll provide a lot of, recap you.

937
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Know following the days after the, games and then wall

938
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,159
as to talk a little bit about the.

939
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Previews it's gonna be a one time a week.

940
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: Show i'm. Excited i'm excited for this college football. Season

941
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,199
everything should go. Well enjoy the rest of the summer

942
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,159
while you still have it if you. DO i, know

943
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,159
school is starting for a lot of. KIDS i know

944
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,280
my little sister her school starts On august. EIGHTEENTH a

945
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,639
lot of kids are gonna be going back to college as. Well,

946
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,400
yeah but it's gonna be a great college football season

947
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,320
coming up here in The Big.

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Speaker 2: Ten and cannot wait to see how this season.

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Speaker 1: Unfolds but until next, time we'll we will see you

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here on The Big Ten paradigm