Speaker 1: What's it called the what rights?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Five rights?
Speaker 2: But like the five rights, the tibet and Tibetan five rights.
Speaker 1: And is that like the ones where it's like like
Speaker 1: sun salutation kind of thing. Is it similar to that?
Speaker 2: Well, the first one is like you spin, actually you
Speaker 2: spin counter now you spin clockwise. I hope I'm spinning
Speaker 2: right now. I gotta go double check, but I've been
Speaker 2: spinning clockwise, not counterclockwise. Anyway, you work your way up
Speaker 2: to starting with three, all the way up to twenty one,
Speaker 2: like over a period of however long it takes you
Speaker 2: to work up to twenty one, but it should be
Speaker 2: like every few days increasing by three more repetitions. So
Speaker 2: that's the first one. That one, and then the second
Speaker 2: one is like a stomach thing like.
Speaker 1: Your arms the whole way out outside or just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of feel like I'm one
Speaker 2: of like the what are they called the uh you know,
Speaker 2: the guys who spin theF the not the soufi guys.
Speaker 2: Where do they go? I forgot? But you know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about? The spinner like the yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I feel like. You're just your arms
Speaker 2: are out and you just spin and you're supposed to
Speaker 2: like focus on like you know, one point in the
Speaker 2: wall and they just keep spinning and then you get dizzy,
Speaker 2: so you're supposed to lay down and like get not
Speaker 2: dizzy anymore. And then but some days I'm dizzier than
Speaker 2: other days, I don't know why. And then and like
Speaker 2: some days I'm not dizzy at all, actually, And then
Speaker 2: there's one that's really feet up in the air, and
Speaker 2: then you're doing crunch I guess. So yeah, because you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do you're supposed to stay like, you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to go off to the side. You're supposed to
Speaker 2: stay in the same location, which is why you have
Speaker 2: to work up to twenty one. And then the third
Speaker 2: one is just like a stretch, Like it's just like
Speaker 2: a kneeling down like backstretch, but you can feel the
Speaker 2: stretch all the way from here. So I'm always like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe this is helping me, Like it's supposed to tone
Speaker 2: up your like you know, your chin and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where was I.
Speaker 2: Oh when I was with Patre the other day, we
Speaker 2: were driving past this thing. He's like, oh, you see here.
Speaker 2: It was just like this like horrible like road that
Speaker 2: was decrepit and just a mess. And he's like, yeah, this,
Speaker 2: I did work on this road like years ago. That's
Speaker 2: where I found a lot of the like these figurines
Speaker 2: and stuff. He had given me a figurine a long
Speaker 2: time ago, like a pre Hispanic figurine, but I can't
Speaker 2: find it. It just disappeared, like it disappeared. I don't
Speaker 2: know where it went. It just disappeared from one of.
Speaker 1: Those like almost little alien people who was like looking.
Speaker 2: Up like that. It was a strange little figurine piece
Speaker 2: that I can't even remember it anymore. I wish I
Speaker 2: had it. It was it was odd. It wasn't fully intact,
Speaker 2: but the head was there and like part of the body.
Speaker 2: But I do remember it being odd like and I
Speaker 2: felt like really drawn to me. It just disappeared anyway.
Speaker 1: Crazy those that they just like m you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that they just build on top of it and
Speaker 2: there's just like a like a shipload of like just.
Speaker 1: Whoa hold on, I'm gonna go get one of my
Speaker 1: amorrhites and show you, like there's a construction site, like
Speaker 1: there's stuff like this. It's like you don't really like
Speaker 1: they're building on top of a dinosaur I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how many dinosaurs are in Dallas. Hold on, let me
Speaker 1: go show you this thing.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. Oh this, oh my god, So that's amazing.
Speaker 2: That is freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: This is just like let me show the other side. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like this is like so huge, so heavy. It's like
Speaker 1: concrete but it's like super heavy. They're just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think I found like eight or nine looking like
Speaker 1: two hours.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: They're like they just don't give a ship. They just
Speaker 1: bulldoze over them and they're building houses on it. And
Speaker 1: so like I'm going on the weekends when they're not
Speaker 1: working so that I can get as many as I
Speaker 1: can find before like I probably have another week or
Speaker 1: two before like they start building houses and it's over,
Speaker 1: you know. And I've been finding so many cool things
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm just realizing, like that's that's that's
Speaker 1: what's happening like everywhere, like we just yeah, they find
Speaker 1: dinosaur bones a lot in this area. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that. Apparently they do, and they don't say anything
Speaker 1: because they don't want to have to stop the dig
Speaker 1: or they don't want to have to stop the construction exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens here too, so that probably happens everywhere.
Speaker 2: So so you're just like, how do you how do
Speaker 2: you find that? Like you have to dig for it
Speaker 2: or what. It's just like there, it's like walking around
Speaker 2: dug for it.
Speaker 1: They've like completely destroyed everything and like they've leveled it
Speaker 1: to where they want, like a house here and a
Speaker 1: house here and a house here. And so I just
Speaker 1: like walk on the ground and like throughout the rubble,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll see it, You'll see them. Yeah, so it's yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just like a place in Fort Worth. Some
Speaker 1: geologists told me about it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll go check it out, Like come on, like me
Speaker 1: and my brother we went down there and checked it out.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't lying. He's like and there's some that
Speaker 1: are like, uh too big to carry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, that is so crazy, so cool. It's
Speaker 2: super please.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what I can do with them,
Speaker 1: like just maybe try some.
Speaker 2: But you're just gonna sell them. Are you going to
Speaker 2: get that table and that thing that you're going to
Speaker 2: do with your school? Right?
Speaker 1: Totally going to sell these giant piece of petrified wood
Speaker 1: lunch stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So I can see if somebody wants them.
Speaker 1: We'll see if somebody wants them. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they will or won't, but I mean if not, they're
Speaker 1: super cool. Like I won't don't mind having them, like
Speaker 1: right my garden or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, Like have a display. You have
Speaker 2: your own museum, well the good one like that.
Speaker 1: I would well, And actually, like I tell my brother,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we keep the we keep the best specimens
Speaker 1: of everything, because I would like to like have some
Speaker 1: sort of little museum of stuff. I gotta know, yeah,
Speaker 1: stuff going on. I got like a meteorite collection.
Speaker 2: I have tons of Yeah, you have tons of stuff.
Speaker 2: You like you're gonna have your estate and just a bam. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I have, I have, I have. I had an
Speaker 2: interesting thought that happened to me. Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I was coming back from Houston, and I was like
Speaker 1: looking at I was on the highway and it was
Speaker 1: a ton of just beautiful like wildflowers. It's like the
Speaker 1: wildflower season. And there was all these like little yellow buttercups.
Speaker 1: And then the sky was like one hundred percent just
Speaker 1: that beautiful baby blue with those like white puffy clouds,
Speaker 1: and there was like really big tall pine trees or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I had just gone to
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I wasn't hungry, My temperature was perfect, like
Speaker 1: everything was just like divine, Like I felt amazing and
Speaker 1: I was just like I always had like this experience
Speaker 1: where I felt like the consciousness of what's conscious like
Speaker 1: looking through me, and I felt like and for a
Speaker 1: moment I wanted to cry at how beautiful everything was
Speaker 1: and just like the gift of being alive. And then
Speaker 1: I just so then that made me just like when
Speaker 1: I was driving, I was thinking to myself, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself about about how we like human
Speaker 1: being human and humanness, and and I got some thoughts
Speaker 1: and it was like I think that like if you're
Speaker 1: an angel or a demon in a way doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: like which side of the polarity on you're on, You're
Speaker 1: very you're you're not your own in this sort of way,
Speaker 1: meaning like I think like angels might be messagers for God,
Speaker 1: they're like sort closer to the source, and like, uh, demons,
Speaker 1: if if that's if that's even the true concept, Okay,
Speaker 1: even maybe if we don't even want to go in
Speaker 1: that concept. But I'm just saying like maybe other entities
Speaker 1: or other other things, other expressions of your consciousness is
Speaker 1: dealing in other realms that are that are that are
Speaker 1: not what we are, Okay, And I feel like we
Speaker 1: are at the we are at the in the infinity loop.
Speaker 1: We're like we're almost like in the center, like to
Speaker 1: be a human is the center. So it's such a
Speaker 1: beautiful gift because we have this sovereigntry thing, right, so
Speaker 1: we are basically getting to feel what it's like to
Speaker 1: be one thing, which is which is not normal. You
Speaker 1: don't always have this separation feeling a lot of times
Speaker 1: you have this. You do have this all oneness feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is cool. That's like whatever, but this is also
Speaker 1: cool too, Like this is a gift as well. And
Speaker 1: then so anyway, what what like kind of was coming
Speaker 1: to me? I was thinking about the greatest gift you
Speaker 1: as a human can give to source is is to
Speaker 1: find to find your Yeah, to find your passion, and
Speaker 1: to find like what are to find expression your expression? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't have to be like your talent or
Speaker 1: you're because I'm not saying that necessarily everybody has a
Speaker 1: talent or not, or that we would recognize as a
Speaker 1: talent like sometimes we would wouldn't, But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like you have to be your own, unique, complete individual,
Speaker 1: sovereign blend of you and whatever that in whatever way
Speaker 1: that expresses itself as long as it isn't influenced by
Speaker 1: anybody else. Is if you are rotating in your own
Speaker 1: universe and you are your own thing, like the best
Speaker 1: gift and that's the best use of this machine.
Speaker 2: Because that's authentic. That's your authenticity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: and it's it is. It is a gift exactly because
Speaker 2: you're just expressing like divine is expressing itself through you,
Speaker 2: and then you were expressed by you expressing your fullness
Speaker 2: and staying true to yourself or or being your own
Speaker 2: like you said, like having your own gift like expressed,
Speaker 2: you're giving that gift back to to yeah, the universe
Speaker 2: or source exactly. Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love those two. It was like just
Speaker 1: an interesting, like little train of thought that I was thinking.
Speaker 1: But it really made me because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people we we contend with each other because we're
Speaker 1: all like in this together and we're like a herd
Speaker 1: animal and in a way we are the neurons of
Speaker 1: the planet. So yeah, there's we do have a collective nature.
Speaker 1: But I guess the thing is is like because of that,
Speaker 1: I think we play in the hierarchy game where we
Speaker 1: give our power away to other ideas and people and
Speaker 1: things and we don't even know we're doing that, and
Speaker 1: we're even taught to do it, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's really interesting because I don't think that that
Speaker 1: is that's not the best use of this of your
Speaker 1: time on the planet.
Speaker 2: It's just not so that that reminded me of the
Speaker 2: isby Like isb's are here to express to like express ourselves,
Speaker 2: but part of the isb's desire is to have other
Speaker 2: people buy into I guess, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 2: but to buy into your idea of expression because then
Speaker 2: other people like are kind of giving you their light also,
Speaker 2: so I guess that's where the ego comes in. But
Speaker 2: that's something too like that that we that we deal
Speaker 2: with in this in this reality, you know, because it's
Speaker 2: like that's true, we were constantly giving our power away
Speaker 2: and maybe getting it from other sources that aren't authentic,
Speaker 2: either through sore through for through ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well, there is that constant validation yearning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, that's part of this, that's part of
Speaker 2: what we live in. When you were just mentioning that,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, okay, you know we think that
Speaker 2: or at least like we have this idea that this
Speaker 2: universe or this source is the greatest and like better
Speaker 2: than us in some sense. But and which it is
Speaker 2: because it's a compilation of everything, I guess, and it's
Speaker 2: just you know, it's one. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: like we are so important that we're not less important
Speaker 2: than that. Actually they like we need each other, they're
Speaker 2: the same like they they source needs us the way
Speaker 2: that we need source or I mean need again is
Speaker 2: all what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also, I mean I really have this
Speaker 1: understanding of which we we are source incarnate, like we are.
Speaker 2: We are sourced incarnated exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we're no lesser, No, I mean, we're still
Speaker 1: we're still feedbacking into the like you know, we're still
Speaker 1: mirror feedbacking into the loop you know, of of all
Speaker 1: and in the value is is just as great no
Speaker 1: matter like what you were or or how long you
Speaker 1: lived or what you did or you know, like it's
Speaker 1: all information, I guess and the can't on that. But
Speaker 1: I also feel like I want and in relation to
Speaker 1: the as above, so below thing, I was recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah here wait wait, this is what this line says
Speaker 2: and then say what you're not as below as above
Speaker 2: and not above as below comma as below, so above,
Speaker 2: as above, so below, yeah so below meaning like therefore Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what I got from that, like so below,
Speaker 2: like therefore like as below, so above, like therefore above,
Speaker 2: like because like it can't exist without the other, like
Speaker 2: as above, so below, like therefore like changing so to
Speaker 2: therefore meaning that it has to be or therefore above
Speaker 2: like it's just with one and the other. It's like
Speaker 2: two of the same. Hmm okay, but I don't know
Speaker 2: if that really makes sense, but in my head somehow
Speaker 2: it does. But anyway, what were you gonna say about
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Oh about as above, so below thing? I've started started
Speaker 1: thinking like really literal about it, where I will be like, okay,
Speaker 1: how does our cells work? And on a microscopic level,
Speaker 1: does it when a cell divides and becomes a new cell,
Speaker 1: Like I'm wondering if like are there floaters or they're
Speaker 1: like for space travel? Okay, so like if you take
Speaker 1: if like let's say the planet is the set in
Speaker 1: the cell of some big beast. Okay, and like all
Speaker 1: the all the stars are other neurons or other you know,
Speaker 1: and all the planets or other cells or our our blood,
Speaker 1: our white T cells or but like some kind of
Speaker 1: whatever the order is. I don't know, but like let's
Speaker 1: say all of this stuff like that's ads as above
Speaker 1: and then so below. So Okay, what I'm thinking is
Speaker 1: we can maybe we can know things about the nature
Speaker 1: of possibility by knowing what like Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: if if you can break out of your cell as
Speaker 1: information from your cell and go into another cell, see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So like, could we break out of
Speaker 1: this planet and go to another planet? Could like could
Speaker 1: we be like space faring all over the body of
Speaker 1: the universe or like so like does something in that
Speaker 1: do that within our body? Is that how viruses work
Speaker 1: or is that our.
Speaker 2: Well Okay, maybe this will help clarify it, but I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure. But I U was just reading that
Speaker 2: the heart is right right. The first thing that is
Speaker 2: that like when when when a being is conceived, the
Speaker 2: first thing that appears is the heart, is the heartbeat
Speaker 2: right before the brain. It but it turns out that
Speaker 2: there are there are cells in the heart, so right,
Speaker 2: and also stem cells are everything. Stem cells are it's
Speaker 2: basic cell. It can be programmed into anything, any other cell.
Speaker 2: So I would guess that, yes, it could be anything,
Speaker 2: like you could go to another planet, right, because yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cell and.
Speaker 1: The cell morphia or not sell morphia. Kid, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a term that I used to know about that
Speaker 1: where it's it's it's the idea is that, well, basically
Speaker 1: you started out as a single cell organism, like right,
Speaker 1: like you were an egg and a sperm, and then
Speaker 1: you split into two or you became an embryo and
Speaker 1: then you started splitting and dividing or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: how did how does each cell determine what what it's
Speaker 1: going to be cell differentiation or whatever?
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I guess I need to look more
Speaker 1: into the microscopic world than I do because I feel
Speaker 1: like we, like, like I said, like, if we look
Speaker 1: at that as our measure of what we can see below,
Speaker 1: because I bet you there's way more below than below that.
Speaker 1: But if we use that as a measure of that,
Speaker 1: I wonder if we can apply certain principles of that
Speaker 1: to the to the above, the macro like the out
Speaker 1: of this well.
Speaker 2: I think that that's true. I think that's the whole
Speaker 2: thing with the fractal and that it's an infinite amount
Speaker 2: of below and an infinite amount of above. It's just
Speaker 2: never ending. There's no end to it, and that Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is, it is. It's the same. And what else
Speaker 2: are you looking for? Like to me, there's no difference.
Speaker 2: You can tell me.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm literally looking for well, I mean literally,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for ways to uh teleport or you know,
Speaker 1: like cause uh like I know that they've like apparently
Speaker 1: like there's quirks and stuff that can like appear. I
Speaker 1: mean there's some there's things that can do that microscopically,
Speaker 1: so like how do how are they doing that?
Speaker 2: Like how do we do it as a as a
Speaker 2: full being? Yeah? Because now, yeah, yeah, I think that
Speaker 2: that was part of the problem with the Montalk projects
Speaker 2: and all that, because they weren't able to get far.
Speaker 2: That's much more complex than doing at quirk or a
Speaker 2: little well.
Speaker 1: And I do feel like a lot there's gott I
Speaker 1: have this feeling that's not based on anything except for
Speaker 1: maybe wishful thinking that there's going to be some kind
Speaker 1: of enactment of our inner consciousness that allows us to
Speaker 1: do things, like I said, like maybe telepathy, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: extreme teleportation or like whatever, I don't know, flying or
Speaker 1: like who knows what whatever it is we could do.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like, pardon me, almost feels like
Speaker 1: we could do it now. We just don't know how
Speaker 1: to use our machine, but I exactly, which, yeah, that
Speaker 1: and that might be the case in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: but you would think somebody would have accidentally figured something
Speaker 1: out by now, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's maybe maybe some of these things
Speaker 2: have to come to a certain amount of ask consciousness,
Speaker 2: which is what we're going, which is because like I remember,
Speaker 2: what is his name, mathematician, very very smart guy. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he was talking about how he went into to like
Speaker 2: into the some pyramid in Egypt. I don't remember where
Speaker 2: he was, and somebody Grant like like, yes, Grant exactly,
Speaker 2: Robert Grant, Robert Grant exactly, and that there was like
Speaker 2: the a symbol that appeared on one of the on
Speaker 2: like a big slate of I don't know something, but
Speaker 2: the symbol was not there before and so his thought,
Speaker 2: or at least the comment that I got from this
Speaker 2: comment that he made was like that it wasn't there
Speaker 2: before because the consciousness wasn't there before, so it has
Speaker 2: to be. It doesn't it doesn't appear to the eye
Speaker 2: or doesn't appear until like pretty much all the students
Speaker 2: are ready, you know. That's the type of thing. Like
Speaker 2: it's just so if we're maybe we need to get
Speaker 2: to a mass consciousness because we're just we don't know
Speaker 2: how to use the technology.
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes sense in terms of the there's
Speaker 1: some Amazonian tribe that doesn't see a certain color and
Speaker 1: because they don't have a language for that color, and
Speaker 1: there's nothing in anatomically wrong with their eyes, they just
Speaker 1: it's never been in their vernacular, so they don't they
Speaker 1: don't recognize I don't know if it's red or blue
Speaker 1: that they can't see. And then also they say that
Speaker 1: because Russians have like maybe thirty to one hundred I
Speaker 1: can't remember what the exact number is, but they have
Speaker 1: a lot more names for variations of blue, so they
Speaker 1: non technically see more blue than we do, or they
Speaker 1: see more in that light spectrum than we do.
Speaker 2: So that's how language can that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you're kind of going like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: then that does go into the power of thought and
Speaker 1: the hour of your language formation, which also is concerning
Speaker 1: considering that apparently our language is being dumbed down and
Speaker 1: we have like, you know, a lot of yes.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I mean that's true, that
Speaker 2: is true. We use less less vocabulary now than we did,
Speaker 2: Like we have a lot.
Speaker 1: Less nuances for things, you know, like we just let
Speaker 1: a lot of blanket terms cover things.
Speaker 2: Right, Which is interesting because I was talking to one
Speaker 2: of my Israeli students and he was telling me about
Speaker 2: Hebrew and he said that there he likes English because
Speaker 2: there are a lot more ways to express things and
Speaker 2: that Hebrew has a very like, very very specific things
Speaker 2: that have to be expressed, but there there isn't as
Speaker 2: many ways to express it. So anyway, but we're going towards.
Speaker 2: If we're going towards telepathy, which is what we're going towards,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it, then then we're not even
Speaker 2: everything's beyond words anyway, Like words I feel like just
Speaker 2: you know, mess with everything, like it's cool. Actually, when
Speaker 2: I was listening to that podcast with those guys that
Speaker 2: you said they were talking about language and they said, like, okay,
Speaker 2: So there was like Babylon right, So before that, everyone
Speaker 2: was able to communicate without language, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, bam, God created languages and there was all
Speaker 2: this confusion and people can communicate, and that was part
Speaker 2: of the confusion. But at the same time, it's pretty
Speaker 2: cool that we're the only humans here on Earth that
Speaker 2: are only species on Earth that uses this written language,
Speaker 2: that were able to read and write and communicate through
Speaker 2: geometry and communicate with one another through sounds and also
Speaker 2: through the written form, which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't want to lose that in one sense.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I mean, how many things
Speaker 2: do you think You're just like I can't explain that experience,
Speaker 2: Like when something was just like whoa, it's beyond words,
Speaker 2: so telepathically we'll just have to communicate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, like when I've had
Speaker 1: my telepathic exchanges, it's been interesting because I feel like
Speaker 1: if it's much easier to well, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: they can speak or they can communicate much faster than
Speaker 1: we can telepathically, because like trying to trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to put formed expressions of all your thoughts
Speaker 1: in like a uh wait express a big Okay, So
Speaker 1: like basically I'm talking about when I've had like like
Speaker 1: telepathic exchanges with those light beings. Well, when I had that,
Speaker 1: it was like they came and it was just like boom,
Speaker 1: big big movie inside my head that like I had
Speaker 1: already watched. It's just like big download just there like
Speaker 1: you know, and and then the next one would come
Speaker 1: up and do that and that, and then you're kind
Speaker 1: of going like in your head, you're going like wait
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait wait wait wait what why wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait? How how did the you know it takes?
Speaker 1: We are so used to this like linear like structured
Speaker 1: thing that I don't know how. For instance, like when
Speaker 1: you watch the The Ladies, The Animal Communicator, the woman
Speaker 1: who does the telepathy with the animals. That's a really
Speaker 1: good documentary. It's called The Animal Communicator.
Speaker 2: But you watched it, right, No, I'm seeing other like
Speaker 2: like horse whisperers type of things, but not that.
Speaker 1: Her names like Anne Brune butturing it because it's like
Speaker 1: a really hard to say last name. But anyway, she
Speaker 1: has done so oh she went to Finn Horne actually
Speaker 1: and did like a lecture on telepathy because she like
Speaker 1: speaks to like the animal community and she talks about
Speaker 1: how yeah, she she talks about how she like, you
Speaker 1: know you almost you express things and images and feelings
Speaker 1: with animals.
Speaker 2: Well, well that was my other thought because like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't know how to maybe bundle it up in
Speaker 2: a nice little package as delivery as a messenger as
Speaker 2: part of the communication way of communicating. Right, there's the
Speaker 2: sender and the receiver, So how does the sender package
Speaker 2: this up telepathically to send this message and that the
Speaker 2: receiver receives in a way that they can understand it.
Speaker 2: But I think that's thinking too much the way that
Speaker 2: we communicate verbally, and right now we're telepathically communicating with people,
Speaker 2: or at least nonverbally communicating with others all the time,
Speaker 2: which is either aware of it or not. So actually
Speaker 2: most of our communication is nonverbal, so we're ready to
Speaker 2: do it like it's something like some linguists or people
Speaker 2: that study communication think that it could be up to
Speaker 2: ninety percent or more that we're actually communicating nonverbally rather
Speaker 2: than verbally. And the little bit of message that we're communicating. Now,
Speaker 2: that's a huge percentage. I don't really buy that, but
Speaker 2: I have heard it's over fifty percent, like sixty or
Speaker 2: seventy percent of our communication is nonverbal. So what does
Speaker 2: that mean then the forty percent left, let's say that
Speaker 2: is verbal. That that's what we weigh heavily on. So
Speaker 2: if you say a person's not the truth and they
Speaker 2: say whatever, I love you or whatever, that's what they
Speaker 2: said verbally, So we expect that to be the truth.
Speaker 2: But we have to look at the nonverbal, which is
Speaker 2: where the telepathy is coming in.
Speaker 1: I mean that it's interesting because there's a I'm in
Speaker 1: this class right currently and this I'm going in person,
Speaker 1: and there's there's a lady who sits across from me
Speaker 1: who I can tell does not like me. There's never
Speaker 1: been anything said, There's never been anything. I just know
Speaker 1: I can I can just like it's it's almost like
Speaker 1: down an energetic level. I can sense her her annoyance
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you can sense those things
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Do that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Yeah, but do you I mean in that case,
Speaker 2: it could be with others too that she has it with.
Speaker 2: It's not may not just be with you, but usually
Speaker 2: sense that something's going on with a person, like, well,
Speaker 2: this person doesn't like me, why is it? And then
Speaker 2: you could find out later on, well maybe they have
Speaker 2: some issue or whatever.
Speaker 1: They don't going on and I guess they're in a
Speaker 1: different frame or right. Yeah, but yeah, there's definitely like a.
Speaker 2: Actually that happened with me this weekend is when I
Speaker 2: was at patrios mom's funeral and there was an aunt there,
Speaker 2: one of his one of his uncles, his uncle's wife,
Speaker 2: which she's his aunt. Okay, but I felt that she
Speaker 2: didn't like me, and I was like, that's so weird.
Speaker 2: Why I just get this vibe that she doesn't like me?
Speaker 2: And it was my first time meeting her. And then
Speaker 2: after they left, they I found out that she has
Speaker 2: that same demeanor with everybody and that she just comes
Speaker 2: across and I was like, oh, okay, I mean I
Speaker 2: wasn't taking it personally anyway. I got over that of
Speaker 2: taking personal getting over you know, not taking it personally
Speaker 2: if people don't like me. But I did sense that,
Speaker 2: but then it turns out that that was just her
Speaker 2: general way of whatever.
Speaker 1: So but you pick up on it, yeah, you do
Speaker 1: you do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of non verbal things, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to be blatant. It can sometimes
Speaker 1: it can just be like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you the one that I was telling him
Speaker 2: about the Russians? The Russian spy. And the reason why
Speaker 2: they caught him, because we're people that study nonverbal communication,
Speaker 2: was that they weren't sure if this guy was actually
Speaker 2: a spy or not. And they were the FBI or whoever, CIA, whatever,
Speaker 2: they were like tracking this guy for a long time
Speaker 2: and they weren't sure if it was him, and and
Speaker 2: they had into counters and his English was perfect, and
Speaker 2: he grew up in the States and he had all
Speaker 2: this stuff and blah blah, and there was no reason
Speaker 2: to believe that he was a spy except for when
Speaker 2: he went to go buy flowers and he was caught
Speaker 2: on video holding his flowers facing down. But in the US,
Speaker 2: we would if we somebody buys flowers, they would probably
Speaker 2: hold them up when they were walking down the street,
Speaker 2: not facing the flowers tops down towards the ground, like
Speaker 2: just walking with them. Most people don't walk like that.
Speaker 2: It's not US culture. So that was the way that
Speaker 2: they found that that guy was a spy because of that,
Speaker 2: but it was his nonverbal communication.
Speaker 1: That was not me. I've never heard that story before,
Speaker 1: and I still am kind of going like, would I
Speaker 1: ever hold a flower?
Speaker 2: No, I thought that too. I was like, when I
Speaker 2: hold it? But probably not. But I wonder if other
Speaker 2: men would you know who knows, Well.
Speaker 1: That's my thing is like guys are like.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other communication thing. Yeah, that is it
Speaker 2: really yeah, it really is. I mean that's the whole
Speaker 2: Men are from memoirs, women are from venus thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just it's it's so interesting, you know, having
Speaker 1: two brothers and then the sister and stuff. It's just
Speaker 1: it's interesting to be able to like there there really
Speaker 1: is some drastic differences and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it, but yeah right, yeah, communication styles
Speaker 2: and whatnot. Yeah. I go through that a lot with
Speaker 2: my students actually, because we have these they have meetings,
Speaker 2: and some of them are very multicultural, and I'm always like,
Speaker 2: we talk about that a lot, like these like what
Speaker 2: how people how different people from different cultures communicate? And
Speaker 2: then of course there's personality styles and there's exceptions to
Speaker 2: the rules and all that. But anyway, you're like you're
Speaker 2: in a meeting and you're expecting something to go a
Speaker 2: certain way, and then like there's these other dynamics and
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, some of them are cultural, some of
Speaker 2: them are personal. But it's just what it is. But
Speaker 2: for people who are sensitive do that or observing of it,
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, sometimes it's hard to manage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, I mean, but the other thing is
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to like. Life is such a
Speaker 1: weird thing, right. We always have to remind ourselves to
Speaker 1: not take anything personal, you know, Like I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I don't think this chick likes me, and I just
Speaker 1: know it, and I shouldn't take that personal because I mean,
Speaker 1: it may have nothing to do with me and are
Speaker 1: you know, and even if it does, it it could
Speaker 1: be over something that like I'm not going to change anyway.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Maybe I wasn't wearing my
Speaker 1: mask tight enough for her liking, or you know, I
Speaker 1: don't it could be some weird thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I I started. I mean, I always get
Speaker 2: hung about that too. I think we all want to
Speaker 2: be liked, you know, some of us feel that way
Speaker 2: more than others. But I but now I'm starting to
Speaker 2: do a lot like it's ever, that's her issue her
Speaker 2: If she doesn't like you, that's her issue. It's not
Speaker 2: your issue, and you know, your issue is just to
Speaker 2: live your life and to you know, treat people or
Speaker 2: even even.
Speaker 1: Things like if if you have a cultural misunderstanding or
Speaker 1: like they're they're just like not your people, or they're
Speaker 1: not like how you would right interpret something if you
Speaker 1: were given the same scenario or whatever. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of just I mean, I'm starting to get like
Speaker 1: better as I get older at just being like, like
Speaker 1: you said, like that's her issue, or just being like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not personal, like that's just it's just not personal,
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, that's their ye, their expression. Let them
Speaker 1: have their expression right.
Speaker 2: And not even to be judgementchal about it, because it's
Speaker 2: not even that. It's like all right, well, if you
Speaker 2: think about it, your your world. You your world, and
Speaker 2: your world revolves around you, like everybody's worlds revolve around themselves.
Speaker 2: So her world is revolving around her, so that's fine.
Speaker 2: It's like okay, that's whatever. She's just living in her
Speaker 2: world and I'm living in mine. Kind of thing like
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, well, I loved that. My friend Demetrius, he was
Speaker 1: on he was on this on the podcast and he
Speaker 1: did uh uh, and he was he was explaining this,
Speaker 1: and he's explained this to me before, but like this
Speaker 1: whole notion that he has of it's actually something he
Speaker 1: saw on his iaha Osca journey. But like he was
Speaker 1: talking about how like we're our own planetary system or
Speaker 1: own little orbits or planets or whatever or galaxies or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and we have a
Speaker 1: certain rotation. Everybody within their own like center, they have
Speaker 1: like their own like rotation, and some people are going
Speaker 1: faster than you, some people are going slower than you,
Speaker 1: some people are going the opposite direction some people or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you kind of get into people's orbits, like and
Speaker 1: intentionally you get into people who you're on the same
Speaker 1: orbit as. But every once in a while, if there's
Speaker 1: like there's like so you're going this way and they're
Speaker 1: going that way, there can be like a ricochet where
Speaker 1: you're just like just abs, you know, and he's like,
Speaker 1: he's like, if you think about it, if you visualize
Speaker 1: you're if you visualize your like planetary system basically whatever
Speaker 1: and and you just kind of feel into what or
Speaker 1: if you think about things and like what what helps
Speaker 1: your rotation feel good? Like what feels like your pace?
Speaker 1: What's your thing versus like what's like making you a
Speaker 1: little bit eh? Like he said, that's who you should
Speaker 1: be going around, like that's who you should that's how
Speaker 1: you find your your tribe, and that's how you get
Speaker 1: things kind of rolling. And when he kind of he says,
Speaker 1: and it's not personal, like they're just there. They belong
Speaker 1: in a different body of systems, like they like they
Speaker 1: don't you and you and them aren't going to be
Speaker 1: in the same You guys aren't going to be in
Speaker 1: the same universe, so right, And I think about it
Speaker 1: like that, I'm like, oh, I like that. Actually that
Speaker 1: kind of helps me unpersonalize it and make it more
Speaker 1: just about like vibes and flows and freezing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, vibes and flows. That's a very good analogy
Speaker 2: or way of looking at it for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, it's like a freemason or whatever. He like.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like he's like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I should have said that or whatever. And I was thinking,
Speaker 2: I think we're getting to the point where it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I was thinking that. I just feel like all this
Speaker 2: stuff is becoming accessible to whoever wants to have access
Speaker 2: to it, and so it doesn't matter that. You know,
Speaker 2: like secret societies are just not They're not going to
Speaker 2: be secret for long in terms of like the information
Speaker 2: that they have to release.
Speaker 1: Like people, it's like you can lead a horse to water,
Speaker 1: but you can't make them drink, you know, you mean,
Speaker 1: like it's it's I feel like if this stuff's in
Speaker 1: the public domain, then like I think it should be.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think even if you gave
Speaker 1: like secrets to mystery schools or secrets to societies like
Speaker 1: that or whatever. I mean, only a select few is
Speaker 1: going to look at it anyway, Well.
Speaker 2: Only a select you actually have access to it, Like
Speaker 2: I mean the Three miss and I don't really know
Speaker 2: that much about them, but I do understand that there's
Speaker 2: a lot of levels to them. So most of the
Speaker 2: people that get to the really top levels are few,
Speaker 2: just like every other pyramid or just like every other
Speaker 2: you know, hierarchy of structure. So I don't it just
Speaker 2: seems to me like the people that are going to
Speaker 2: have access to it are the people that always have
Speaker 2: access to it. But at the same time, we all
Speaker 2: have access to it through the Acashic records or just
Speaker 2: through our birthright, Like we still have access to this information,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't really matter like secret societies or even
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess we'll just we'll come to
Speaker 2: it when it's our time to come to it.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's just one of those things where
Speaker 1: they're no more incarnate than you or I, Right.
Speaker 2: So exactly, that's the way I look at things now,
Speaker 2: because it's just like, well, right, there's nobody that's better
Speaker 2: or worse than anybody else. Everyone's just having an experience again,
Speaker 2: just having an experience, just living their life. Like it's
Speaker 2: not better just because somebody makes money or is on
Speaker 2: the street and doesn't like a person like a drug
Speaker 2: user versus like like a heinous crime committer, like in
Speaker 2: the end of the day, on this other level, like
Speaker 2: it's no better or worse. Yeah, I think that's been Yeah,