Speaker 1: Ah, here we go. Fred rgan Jonas notching today for
Speaker 1: Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports. You know you
Speaker 1: thought it was just delightful watching the Dodgers last night.
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's like, I never do that to you.
Speaker 2: I don't try and take one little thing and spin
Speaker 2: it out of control and twist it into something that's
Speaker 2: that I didn't say. I would never do that to you.
Speaker 2: I would never know that I had never done that
Speaker 2: to you. I would please expect the same respect in
Speaker 2: return when it comes to my commentary.
Speaker 1: Okay, my bad, if you've never done that to me,
Speaker 1: I would never do that. Okay, what exactly are you saying?
Speaker 2: You look at last night? Yes, listen, they lost the game.
Speaker 2: You know you want to take a short sided view.
Speaker 2: That's fine. You lost the game because in the eighth
Speaker 2: inning there was a meltdown defensively, which they haven't had
Speaker 2: in what like two years? Was the last time they
Speaker 2: had an inning like that where everything just sort of
Speaker 2: fell apart. It wasn't like you know, their you know,
Speaker 2: their reliever got lit up. It just fell up part
Speaker 2: bad plays, bad balances, et cetera. And then on top
Speaker 2: of that, you had multiple times hits that would have
Speaker 2: been hit against any other team in Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: and against any other outfielder in Major League Baseball. But
Speaker 2: the problem is the guy you hit it near is
Speaker 2: named p Crow Armstrong, and he's a superstar in the making,
Speaker 2: and he's a local guy from Harvard Westlake, and he
Speaker 2: was doing things that you never ever see a center
Speaker 2: fielder do. It's like one of the great outfield performances
Speaker 2: we've seen by anybody in a long time. That stuff
Speaker 2: is not a everyday occurrence, fluky, kind of weird. You
Speaker 2: tip your cap on a couple of those plays. But
Speaker 2: here's why you walk away long term and you're feeling
Speaker 2: great about things. Has ya Momoto ever looked better? Like
Speaker 2: I mean, and I know it was a short sample size.
Speaker 2: They weren't close to the stuff he had, Like they
Speaker 2: couldn't touch him. He had what eights strikeouts and four
Speaker 2: innings the last time he had a performance like this, Like,
Speaker 2: if you want to go all the way back to
Speaker 2: maybe April against Washington, I thought he was tremendous. So
Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised that you're as down on them
Speaker 2: as you are, considering you were just hoping, Hey, if
Speaker 2: he gets lit up. Yeah, not great, But the most
Speaker 2: important thing is he comes out healthy. He looked great,
Speaker 2: and if you're the Dodgers long term, I think he
Speaker 2: had If he's feeling good about things.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Well I take a little different approach. First
Speaker 1: I thought, yea, I'm a moto. Did look really good.
Speaker 1: And again, the whole key for me is how's he
Speaker 1: feeling today? That's it. How's he feeling today? Because they
Speaker 1: couldn't touch him early in the game. He had some
Speaker 1: help in the umpire, I'll say that, but overall they
Speaker 1: couldn't touch him, and he did. Look at what are
Speaker 1: you laughing about? It's true?
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's true.
Speaker 1: What are you laughing about? He looked great, He looked
Speaker 1: really good. Okay. If he's okay today, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: That's a major win. Defensively, that was in a backle
Speaker 1: borderline embarrassing. They can't make those mistakes. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what game, who they're playing. You can't make those mistakes.
Speaker 1: And they made them. That is not good. Is that
Speaker 1: a lack of focus? Is it a lack of bad luck?
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but you cannot make
Speaker 1: those mistakes. Ultimately, that's what doomed them, and you've got
Speaker 1: to guard against that and hopefully they got that out
Speaker 1: of their system. All right, So they had a bad game.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but you know how often does that happen.
Speaker 2: It's not like this happens all the time. They had
Speaker 2: a bad game, and you'd rather have these bad games
Speaker 2: now than get to the postseason. And next thing you know,
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium is about ready to fall apart because people
Speaker 2: can't believe this is happening to them again in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: So little reminder. I think they're gonna bounce back. I
Speaker 2: don't know why you have to be so negative all
Speaker 2: the time. Why can't you just focus and try and
Speaker 2: find a smile somewhere in there, somewhere behind just that dark,
Speaker 2: ominous look you have, just that silhouette you present of
Speaker 2: nothing good happens to the Dodgers at this point in
Speaker 2: time during the season. Listen, Yamamoto went out there and
Speaker 2: was dealing help from the umpire or not, Maybe he
Speaker 2: was due something. Maybe everything evens out in the end,
Speaker 2: and maybe yeah he did get the benefit of the
Speaker 2: dollar a call on a couple of strikes there that
Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't have been called strikes in other places, but
Speaker 2: I'll say this, this stuff was there. You've got was
Speaker 2: it our Austin Barnes who was saying afterwards, that's like
Speaker 2: I didn't expect that. That was the best he's ever looked.
Speaker 2: So yes, if he feels good about things, I think
Speaker 2: the Dodgers come away from that game feeling great about
Speaker 2: the fact they're gonna be in the postseason. And don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. You're not gonna see Pete crow Armstrong
Speaker 2: the boogeyman again after tonight because the Cups aren't going
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, So you kind of leave that to
Speaker 2: the side, address that in Japan when they start off
Speaker 2: the season with him next year, and then focus on
Speaker 2: the current state of play, which is this team getting
Speaker 2: to the postseason and trying to overcome the negative perception
Speaker 2: that you've thrown on them all already, well before the
Speaker 2: playoffs have even started.
Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, I didn't say anything of a negative
Speaker 1: nature about the team because I thought all along they're
Speaker 1: going to be just fine.
Speaker 2: Did did I just twist your words out out of proportion?
Speaker 2: Did I just do what you did to me?
Speaker 1: Is that what you did? What to me? What you
Speaker 1: do to me every day. Okay, that's exactly what you
Speaker 1: did again. That's fine. Everything you said defensively, that's unacceptable
Speaker 1: and that can't happen again. But the best part of
Speaker 1: it really was, aside from watching Yamamoto, you were right,
Speaker 1: Pete Crow Armstrong kept the Westlake. He's Wes like Harvard
Speaker 1: Wes West like Harvard Westlake's twenty two, twenty two years old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my god, was that fun.
Speaker 2: He's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That was so much fun to watch. And how fast
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 2: He's the guy if you go look up. It was
Speaker 2: a play that went viral earlier this year, he had
Speaker 2: an inside the park home run at Miami and he
Speaker 2: got from home to home in like fourteen seconds. Like
Speaker 2: he's like, it just blazes. And he's really struggled at
Speaker 2: the play throughout most of the season, but lately he's
Speaker 2: picked it up and he's one of those guys to
Speaker 2: where all you have to do is get him on base.
Speaker 2: If you get him on base, he's taken two. It's
Speaker 2: like the Eagles have this term where they call it
Speaker 2: first to nine because of the brotherly shove. They know
Speaker 2: they're gonna get a first down, so they're not worried
Speaker 2: about the ten yards. Just get his nine yards. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get the extra yard. With Pete krah Armstrong, there's
Speaker 2: no such thing as just a single. If he gets
Speaker 2: on first, he's taken second. Like you don't have a
Speaker 2: say in the matter. He's getting that bag regardless of
Speaker 2: what you do. Nobody's throwing him out. And so the
Speaker 2: problem has been, well can you get him on base?
Speaker 2: The problem's never been his defense. He is, un like
Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger, is one of the best defensive outfielders in
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. Ian happ on the other side as
Speaker 2: a gold glover, like those are really really good outfielders,
Speaker 2: they're not close to him. I have no idea how
Speaker 2: he play that ball over the wall that seemed like
Speaker 2: it went in between two fans arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fan should have caught the ball. Yes, the
Speaker 1: fan should have made the play. It doesn't you give
Speaker 1: the fan an error because he should have caught the ball.
Speaker 1: But somehow he went up at the end, and by
Speaker 1: the way, that would have made it a one run game,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't have tied the game. But he went up,
Speaker 1: he looked like the happen. He looked like a kid. Yes,
Speaker 1: he just looked like a kid having a great time,
Speaker 1: laughing and smiling. Bellinger was laughing and what about those
Speaker 1: other defensive.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man like and I've been watching it
Speaker 2: and going, okay, this this is like happening a lot.
Speaker 2: Now he's becoming a superstar. And he was one of
Speaker 2: those guys we mentioned with Dave ass yesterday, how you've
Speaker 2: seen two different ways that it's gone. Because a couple
Speaker 2: of years back, in like twenty sixteen, it was almost
Speaker 2: a race to see who was going to be the
Speaker 2: dynasty in the National League, and like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: you remember the Mets had that great pitching staff. The
Speaker 2: Mets went to you know, they went to the World Series.
Speaker 2: I believe they had that. You know, the Dodgers ran
Speaker 2: into them a couple of times. And then you had
Speaker 2: the Cubs, and then you had the Dodgers. Well, the
Speaker 2: team that's had staying power and has lasted as the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: like their farm system ended up being better, their players
Speaker 2: panned out better at the major league level, and like
Speaker 2: the guys that have left, the Cubs have struggled. And
Speaker 2: one of those guys was Hobby Bias. Well, when they
Speaker 2: traded Hobby Bias to the Mets, one of the pieces
Speaker 2: they got back in return was Pete crow Armstrong, And
Speaker 2: so when they got him in return, he was one
Speaker 2: of these top prospects in Major League Baseball, but the
Speaker 2: people just weren't sure. Yeah, maybe you'll figure it out
Speaker 2: the plate, maybe, But defensively he's always had it and
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys to where you just want
Speaker 2: to watch him play the outfield because no balls out
Speaker 2: of reach, Like there was another one, who's was it
Speaker 2: Tommy Edmonds home run that went over the Look at
Speaker 2: how high he got up for that ball.
Speaker 1: I saw that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, click, who is this? I'm telling you know what, Fred?
Speaker 2: He gives us hope, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 2: like the first time you and I saw Larry Bird
Speaker 2: were like, hey, man, hey, that's us. Like, yeah, Pete
Speaker 2: crow Armstrong gives us hope with his speed and the
Speaker 2: way he's able to move and fly around in the outfield,
Speaker 2: and it just he he looks like the most unassuming
Speaker 2: guy ever. He looks like he'd be a skateboarder, like
Speaker 2: you would just he looks like a guy that you
Speaker 2: would see walking out of Spencer's with like a bag
Speaker 2: of gummy worms and like a Depeche Mode shirt and
Speaker 2: instead he's out there playing center field or like we've
Speaker 2: never seen before. It's crazy. Guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Did you see the catch he made? Kind of the
Speaker 1: running he was headed toward the wall and made this
Speaker 1: kind of picturesque backhand grasp.
Speaker 2: What was that that he didn't?
Speaker 1: It was like, what are you doing? And did do that?
Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is that he taught like Dodgers,
Speaker 2: like fans in the outfield have been get it into
Speaker 2: him at Dodger Stadium because every time he makes a play,
Speaker 2: he's barking right back at him, like whatever they're saying
Speaker 2: to him, he hears it and he's barking right back.
Speaker 2: And they showed like a picture of him when he
Speaker 2: was five years old because his mom is an actress.
Speaker 2: I forget her name, Damn it is it Ashley Crow.
Speaker 2: I forget, Like his mom's an actress, but I yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they're both in Hollywood somehow, some way, And
Speaker 2: so they showed a picture of him out getting no
Speaker 2: more Garcia Para's autograph when he was five years old
Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium and they're like, you know, like if
Speaker 2: I were to tell you like that you went from
Speaker 2: that to this, and he was just like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like didn't really even want to address it
Speaker 2: or talk about it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: You don't understand that. Like it's one of those things
Speaker 2: to where even Dodger fans, like people that cover the
Speaker 2: Dodgers are like, yeah, man, like Yamamoto, Man, what the
Speaker 2: hell was that that we just saw? And that doesn't
Speaker 2: happen a lot, especially on that stage, Like think about
Speaker 2: all the star power that was there, Japan was represented,
Speaker 2: you got like everybody's really excited about all the matchups.
Speaker 2: Max Munsey was mashing the ball, Tommy Edmund had a
Speaker 2: couple of home runs, and the guy everybody's talking about
Speaker 2: is this little guy from a Spencer store in a
Speaker 2: mall somewhere who just lit the field on fire defensively,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't really anything he did offensively, just defensively.
Speaker 2: And then if you see him get on base, just
Speaker 2: watch him run the bases if you get an opportunity
Speaker 2: or look up that video of the inside the park
Speaker 2: home run against Miami. The kid is unbelievable, but good
Speaker 2: thing you don't have to see him again after tonight
Speaker 2: it's over.
Speaker 1: Okay, so your glass is really half full? Yes, really
Speaker 1: half full?
Speaker 2: How could you not? You were the ones saying yesterday,
Speaker 2: I just want yamamotor to feel good. If he feels
Speaker 2: good today, was he not better than you expected in
Speaker 2: review one thousand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked good. So and he feels good today.
Speaker 1: So that's the good news. Uh. I can't dismiss the era. Sorry,
Speaker 1: won't can't allow that. But you're right. The price of
Speaker 1: admission last night was Pete crow Armstrong.
Speaker 2: Jeez, he really was.
Speaker 1: And you know, you just wonder to yourself. Okay, the
Speaker 1: Cubs made a deal. They traded Hobby Bay as they
Speaker 1: get this kid, Pete crow Armstrong. And you have to
Speaker 1: remember when teams acquire prospects, there's a reason for that.
Speaker 1: Somebody thought they'd be pretty good. Maybe the team that's
Speaker 1: selected have gave up on them or didn't think they
Speaker 1: would be as good, or they wouldn't have as high
Speaker 1: as a ceiling. But that's why even the Dodgers, when
Speaker 1: they make these moves, I think David Vasse talked about
Speaker 1: it the other day. They trade Michael Busch. All right,
Speaker 1: Michael Bush is killing the Dodgers. What did Vassy say?
Speaker 1: He didn't even know the guy's name. He said, they
Speaker 1: got a picture in return that everybody projects to be
Speaker 1: a star.
Speaker 2: It is something fairess, is what it is. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: forget something like that.
Speaker 1: They got somebody in return that they project to be
Speaker 1: a star, and by all accounts and many evaluators in baseball,
Speaker 1: that could really happen. So they had to give up
Speaker 1: something in Michael Boyce who torched the Dodgers to get
Speaker 1: something that you haven't seen yet.
Speaker 2: Jackson Ferris, All right.
Speaker 1: Jackson Ferris. So the match gave up Hobby Badias for
Speaker 1: some kid named Pete crow Armstrong. He's so important. He
Speaker 1: has two last names. And this kid when they get him,
Speaker 1: you don't know anything about him. But now look at
Speaker 1: what you've seen. I mean, the Cubs are going to
Speaker 1: be pretty solid in that outfield if Cody Bellinger stays
Speaker 1: there for years to come.
Speaker 2: I mean defensively, like the Cubs shouldn't allow and like
Speaker 2: there should be zero airs on the score sheet the
Speaker 2: entire year. Like if you consider half Bellinger, Pete crow Armstrong,
Speaker 2: like Dansby Swanson, Nico Horner, who I know you were
Speaker 2: pushing for the Dodgers to trade for before the deadline
Speaker 2: because you wanted to play me so Horner if they
Speaker 2: acquired him. That's not exactly why. Okay, well I thought that.
Speaker 2: That's the way I interpreted it. But okay, the last
Speaker 2: thing we need to do here is make accusations of
Speaker 2: each other. That would make us sound less professional.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need to jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to do that. Michael Bush is
Speaker 2: a phenomenal defensive first baseman out of nowhere, so yeah,
Speaker 2: but like all of that is awesome, They're not going
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. I mean, they are four games out
Speaker 2: of the wild Card. They struggled all year long, so yeah,
Speaker 2: they figured it out now, but they're not going to
Speaker 2: be anywhere in sight. Yamamoto though, that was a guy
Speaker 2: last night, who if that's the version of the of
Speaker 2: him you're getting Fred you could roll him out there
Speaker 2: game one like somebody hit that, like somebody like that
Speaker 2: splitter he throws like. The Cubs were bad. They had
Speaker 2: no answers for it, and it was almost like, thank god,
Speaker 2: he's only going four and I thought he could have
Speaker 2: gone longer. They could have kept him in the game. Longer,
Speaker 2: but I understand the idea. Listen, We're just gonna slowly
Speaker 2: work him back. Dave was talking about Dave Assay was
Speaker 2: saying two to four innings, you max that out at four.
Speaker 2: He was tremendous man. So just based on what his
Speaker 2: performance last night, you gotta be feeling a lot better
Speaker 2: about things. Is approach to playoffs?
Speaker 1: All right, we're off and running.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Bill Pe will join us next. Bill Pe will join
Speaker 1: the show. Jonas knoxon today for Rodney and now let's
Speaker 1: bring on the man we referred to as Bill P.
Speaker 1: Bill P. From the Orange County Register. It is Bill Plunkett,
Speaker 1: and Bill, how are you today?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm apparently not as busy as Bill Plashky, but
Speaker 3: happy to be here.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not true. We actually wanted you today.
Speaker 1: We didn't even look for Plashky. You know, we're getting
Speaker 1: tired of Plashky. We wanted you today.
Speaker 3: Wow, well you'll get tired of me fast enough to
Speaker 3: do then.
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. All right. So anyway, Bill, let's
Speaker 1: get started. Yam Modo looked pretty good last night.
Speaker 3: No, he looked every bit as good as they could
Speaker 3: have hoped, and probably better I mean really sharp pitch
Speaker 3: efficient to get through four innings with the limited fits
Speaker 3: County had. Splitter in particular, looked really good. It could
Speaker 3: not have gone better.
Speaker 2: I was thinking this as well too, just going through
Speaker 2: looking at some of his previous starts, like you could
Speaker 2: make the argument, and I think maybe Austin Barnes even
Speaker 2: said it that he was better than ever, Like, was
Speaker 2: that the best you'd seen him look from a stuff
Speaker 2: standpoint all year?
Speaker 3: No, he had two other starts earlier in the year
Speaker 3: where he looked better. He went eight innings, I want
Speaker 3: to say against the Reds. I forget exactly who it
Speaker 3: was against.
Speaker 2: There was another one against against Washington as well too,
Speaker 2: that was good, I remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the best, maybe the best start of all,
Speaker 3: was at Yankee Stadium. He went seven I think seven scoreless,
Speaker 3: two hits allowed in what was really honestly a playoff atmosphere.
Speaker 3: It was that weekend series at the time, I think
Speaker 3: that both teams had the best records in their league.
Speaker 3: Everybody was all excited about a Judge Otani matchup, a
Speaker 3: Dodgers Yankees World series. It was a playoff atmosphere. He
Speaker 3: went out there, it was fantastic. Now that's probably also
Speaker 3: when the shoulder injury started, because it was two starts
Speaker 3: later that he was shut down. But he has looked
Speaker 3: really good multiple times. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 3: who was the MVP of the Japanese League not once,
Speaker 3: but twice, and he knows what big games are about.
Speaker 3: He's pitching the WBC, he pitched in the Japan series there.
Speaker 3: I think all of those things are why they signed
Speaker 3: him for the money they signed him for. And then
Speaker 3: to see it last night after three months off was tremendous,
Speaker 3: tremendously encouraging, all right, So that.
Speaker 1: Makes the half full. Let's talk about that eighth inning defensively,
Speaker 1: I think that makes me last half empty.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't worry about it too much, first of all,
Speaker 3: because two of the three errors were by guys who
Speaker 3: are not going to be playing those positions very often.
Speaker 3: Austin Barnes is not going to be starting on a
Speaker 3: regular basis. He made the bad throw that kind of
Speaker 3: started things. He k Hernandez. I don't think we'll be
Speaker 3: playing a whole lot of second base moving forward. That
Speaker 3: was just a start against the left handed pitcher for
Speaker 3: the Cubs, so it was a bad inning. It was
Speaker 3: an ugly inning. It cost him the game. But I
Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't take it to mean anything more than
Speaker 3: that it was. It was a one off, a bad
Speaker 3: night and a bad loss.
Speaker 2: What do you need to see from them to feel
Speaker 2: confident heading into the postseason? Like down the stretch, Like
Speaker 2: if you had a wish list, obviously health would be
Speaker 2: one of them, but specifically that you I think Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts would feel much better about this roster into the postseason.
Speaker 3: Well, last night was one of them, was seeing Amamoto
Speaker 3: come back. It's really interesting. This is kind of an
Speaker 3: odd combination. Having covered playoffs for twenty years now, postseason
Speaker 3: baseball has changed dramatically. Starting pitchers don't factor as much
Speaker 3: as they used to. You don't have the Madison Bumgarner
Speaker 3: carrying the Giants to a World Series. You don't have
Speaker 3: the Strasburg Suzer types that got the Nationals a World
Speaker 3: Series title. If you get five innings out of your
Speaker 3: starter in the postseason, that's what you want. You get
Speaker 3: fifteen outside of your starter, and you ask your bullpen
Speaker 3: to get twelve outs every night. That's the way the
Speaker 3: game has become in the postseason now. With that being said,
Speaker 3: right now, nothing is more important to the Dodgers October
Speaker 3: hopes than the health of their starting pitchers. They cannot
Speaker 3: go into the postseason with the same kind of setup
Speaker 3: they had last year when they had a compromised Clayton Kershaw,
Speaker 3: home run prone Lance Lynn, and they experienced Bobby Miller.
Speaker 3: They can't go into the postseason and put their hopes
Speaker 3: on that kind of a rotation. They need Yamamoto to
Speaker 3: be healthy, They need Glass Now to be healthy. They
Speaker 3: need Flaherty to be you know, continue pitching the way
Speaker 3: he has and then you can you know, fludge the
Speaker 3: fourth starter however you have to. But I don't think
Speaker 3: there's anything more important than how those three starting pitchers
Speaker 3: go into the postseason.
Speaker 1: Well, right now, Yamamoto is going to start, all right,
Speaker 1: if that is what we're going to see, he gets
Speaker 1: the ball in Game one, Flaherty gets the ball in
Speaker 1: Game two.
Speaker 3: I still think you get Flarerty in game one because
Speaker 3: of the experience factor. Really yeah, and you also have
Speaker 3: to figure in, you know, when are you coming back
Speaker 3: with him for a second start. I don't know that
Speaker 3: you can count on getting two starts in a five
Speaker 3: game series out of Yamamoto, They've been very careful with
Speaker 3: his workload all season long. He hasn't pitched on less
Speaker 3: than five days rest. With the travel days in the postseason,
Speaker 3: maybe you can get him a Game one and a
Speaker 3: Game five, But I kind of think they would go
Speaker 3: with Clarty first.
Speaker 2: Based on what you've seen from Mookie Betts. His response,
Speaker 2: Max Muncy, I mean, I know we're asking to look
Speaker 2: into the future when it comes to this, but I
Speaker 2: just don't anticipate the top of the lineup struggling in
Speaker 2: the playoffs like they did last year. Like it does
Speaker 2: feel different this year. I mean, crazy things have happened.
Speaker 2: I know people are just assuming the worst. What's your
Speaker 2: gauge on how that lineup is, in particular at the
Speaker 2: top with out tiny leading things off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't afford to have them go one for
Speaker 3: twenty again in a series like Freeman and Betst That
Speaker 3: sank them pretty pretty good again. The starting pitching put
Speaker 3: him in holes and they just never had a chance
Speaker 3: last year. I think they are potentially deeper lineup this
Speaker 3: year than you know. They were pretty deep when they
Speaker 3: had Trey Turner in that group up top two. But
Speaker 3: the key I think you're going to get something out
Speaker 3: of Bets and Freeman. What are you going to get
Speaker 3: out of show? Heyokhani, I mean, I know he's the
Speaker 3: greatest player on the planet and generational talent. He's never
Speaker 3: played in the postseason. We don't know what he's going
Speaker 3: to be. The WBC was high pressure for him. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's the same as a postseason. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's the same, isn't it that in the World Series.
Speaker 3: So that's still a mystery to me. And I don't
Speaker 3: know how he's going to react. He's you know, he
Speaker 3: hasn't been the same hitter in the second half that
Speaker 3: he was in the first average wise, still hitting for power.
Speaker 3: He may be selling out for power a little bit
Speaker 3: recently because you know, chasing the record. I think he
Speaker 3: is still a mystery in the in the postseason until
Speaker 3: we see Until we see it, I.
Speaker 1: Think you've like found in the postseason. Personally, I think
Speaker 1: he'll have a big postseason. I like it. If the
Speaker 1: pitching holds up for the Dodgers and Bets and and
Speaker 1: Freddie hit this go around, I think they're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: If you know, again, if the pitching holds up and
Speaker 1: they're healthy. What happened to Bondage?
Speaker 3: Huge question mark there, huge question mark whether the pitching holds.
Speaker 1: Up all right? Then? Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 3: Bond Bonda did not apparently did not see the movie
Speaker 3: Bull Durham where Crash Davis teaches Nuklalus that when you
Speaker 3: punch somebody, you punch with you don't punch with your
Speaker 3: pitching hand. He got frustrated after his outing Monday night
Speaker 3: and he hit something man his pitching hand lost.
Speaker 2: Do we know what he hit? Any any guests.
Speaker 3: Don't know specifically, but I would bet a wall, just walls,
Speaker 3: walls tend to tend to win that matchup.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, at what point during the time between
Speaker 2: you're throwing the punch and hitting the wall, do you
Speaker 2: not realize, Yeah, this is a terrible idea. Like a door,
Speaker 2: I can understand, you know, like you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to like a dry wall, I can understand You're
Speaker 2: you're gonna go through it and you're gonna feel a
Speaker 2: little bit better about things. I mean, don't they have
Speaker 2: like a speed bag or like a heavy bag anywhere
Speaker 2: nearby so guys can unload on that as opposed to
Speaker 2: punch in a wall. It's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3: Most dugouts do have a punching bag down the hallway.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of dugouts. Yeah, and guys
Speaker 3: will guys will wail on it with their path frustrating
Speaker 3: at that. Yeah, it's it's not you're thinking logically. And
Speaker 3: in the moment he was clearly not thinking logically. He
Speaker 3: was very upset. And I'll say this. I'll say this
Speaker 3: about Anthony. They picked him up on the cheap and
Speaker 3: he has been a very valuable piece of that bullpen.
Speaker 3: Has not pitched as well recently because they have worn
Speaker 3: him down. They have used him more than anybody else
Speaker 3: in that bullpen since he got here.
Speaker 2: Oh well, listen, if you if you acquire himy as
Speaker 2: well use him.
Speaker 3: You know, he got him using it and he was pitching.
Speaker 3: He has pitched well for most of that time, so
Speaker 3: he was he was a very good option.
Speaker 1: Uh you know frequently, Aybell, what do you hear about Glass? Now?
Speaker 1: How's he doing?
Speaker 3: The bullpen session looked really good yesterday he you know,
Speaker 3: says that the y elbow has calmed down. He's not feeling
Speaker 3: anything there. I think they want to get him into game.
Speaker 3: So he's gonna throw a sim game. He's going to
Speaker 3: throw the hitters Friday in Atlanta, and I think we
Speaker 3: will see him start next week. They're not gonna send
Speaker 3: him to a minor league rehab. They want to get
Speaker 3: him in major league games, and if they do that
Speaker 3: next week, he gets three starts before the postseason. Glasnow
Speaker 3: is a big, tall guy, long levers, as they say,
Speaker 3: and the timing and the mechanics of his delivery are
Speaker 3: fairly complicated as a result, so they want to get
Speaker 3: him in major league games so he can smooth as
Speaker 3: much of that out as possible before a postseason game.
Speaker 3: You also have, you know, the way it looks if
Speaker 3: they're going to get one of the top two seeds,
Speaker 3: they're going to have that five day break again after
Speaker 3: the season and before the start of the DS. I
Speaker 3: think you might see some of these guys in as
Speaker 3: intense as they can make them interra squad games during
Speaker 3: that five day break to you know, build up pitch
Speaker 3: counts and smooth out mechanics for guys like las Naw
Speaker 3: and Yamamoto who have been out so long.
Speaker 1: Hey Bell, what did you think of Pete prol Armstrong
Speaker 1: last night?
Speaker 3: Outstanding? What a good young ballplayer he is.
Speaker 2: Huh, it's exciting man by that's uh. And and when
Speaker 2: you get resounding like a credit from Dodger fans, who
Speaker 2: you understand, Like, yeah, he called, you know, won a
Speaker 2: game for him for the Cubs in Dodger Stadium. He's
Speaker 2: a local guy. But some of those plays were unbelievable, like.
Speaker 3: He and he covers so much ground out there. And yeah,
Speaker 3: the the one uh, I think it was on Otani
Speaker 3: that he caught on the warning track while sliding was remarkable.
Speaker 3: And then he steals home run from Muncie to end
Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, he's He's gonna be fun to watch
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 2: It was also kind of kind of odd the like
Speaker 2: the heart scare that Porter Hodge for the Cubs had
Speaker 2: happened that I can't believe they left him in the game,
Speaker 2: Like he's got a heart.
Speaker 3: Scare there too. Yeah, we didn't know in real time
Speaker 3: when when the trainer was out there, We didn't know
Speaker 3: what he was checking on. We just you know, Hodge
Speaker 3: took a knee at one point. But apparently this is
Speaker 3: something that he had issues with in the past. Uh,
Speaker 3: And I guess he talked the trainer and to let
Speaker 3: them stay in there, and yeah, it was. It was odd.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you followed the Dodgers for years,
Speaker 3: we're familiar with this with Kenley Janssen and the problems
Speaker 3: that he had with with the irregular heartbeat. And I
Speaker 3: don't think he pitches in Colorado when his team goes
Speaker 3: there because the altitude has such a such an effect
Speaker 3: on him. He was, Yeah, he was pretty scared one year.
Speaker 3: I recall when he had had the issue in Denver.
Speaker 1: Bill last night. Was it a heart scare? Was it anxiety?
Speaker 1: Do we know exactly what it was?
Speaker 3: As I understand it, he has had I forget how
Speaker 3: they described it, but a rapid heartbeat at times in
Speaker 3: the past, and when he felt it happening again, it
Speaker 3: understandably scared him a little bit and that's why we
Speaker 3: had the trainer come out there and eventually things settled down.
Speaker 3: But I don't know the whole background on it, but
Speaker 3: I do believe this was not the first time he's
Speaker 3: experienced it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we appreciate experiencing you again today. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much Bill for coming on.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill.
Speaker 3: I hope it makes your your heartbeat get rapid for
Speaker 3: good reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there goes our buddy Bill plug into
Speaker 1: the Orange County Register. You know, Jonas, you asked Bill
Speaker 1: a question. It was a pretty good one. What do
Speaker 1: you need to see this season to make you feel
Speaker 1: confident about the in the postseason? And maybe what we'll
Speaker 1: do next hours we'll open the phone lines and hear
Speaker 1: from people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can formulate that we'll do that next hour.
Speaker 1: How much money do you think Miller Moss, the USC
Speaker 1: quarterback makes this year?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I mean it's college those you know, those
Speaker 2: athletes aren't getting any money. Fred, I live in the
Speaker 2: olden times where you know, everything was on the app
Speaker 2: and off.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, uh, how much do you think Jonas Natch
Speaker 1: is in today for Rodney? All right? With nil? College
Speaker 1: has changed, College sports have changed. Miller Moss, USC quarterback,
Speaker 1: How much money do you think he makes in NIL?
Speaker 2: I'll say five hundred grand a year?
Speaker 1: He makes one point two million?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Uh, he's got deals with EA Sports for college football,
Speaker 1: twenty five Fraankrance dot Com, and an NIL deal with
Speaker 1: Rock and Pro team. Juju Watkins, USC women's basketball player
Speaker 1: pretty good. What do you think she gets paid a year.
Speaker 2: Five hundred one thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Very close five hundred seventy six thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: See wide receiver Zachariah branch usc how much you think
Speaker 1: he makes?
Speaker 2: Some really talented not a quarterback though, I'll say seven
Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand.
Speaker 1: Four hundred and fifty four thousand dollars piece.
Speaker 2: It's a bargain.
Speaker 1: Yeap safety Kamari Ramsey, what do you think he gets paid?
Speaker 2: Oh two fifty three forty.
Speaker 1: And defensive tackle Bear Alexander one hundred bucks, three hundred
Speaker 1: and one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, listen a little off.
Speaker 1: Did I mentioned that Moss is I think sixteenth nationally
Speaker 1: in uh nil.
Speaker 2: Rank Cavy look man like there is it's it now
Speaker 2: would for some of these guys, it would behoove you
Speaker 2: to stay in school, like stay in college. Like there's
Speaker 2: the guy Cam McCormick for Miami, the guy that started
Speaker 2: at Oregon and now he's at Miami. He's like going
Speaker 2: on twenty six years old. The guy's been like this
Speaker 2: is his ninth year in college. He like he was
Speaker 2: part of the Justin Herbert Organ class and he's still
Speaker 2: playing college ball at Miami, like cam Rising of Utah,
Speaker 2: like some of these guys like you could stay in
Speaker 2: and make decent money depending on you know, how you
Speaker 2: have things set up through whatever, Nilda, you have so
Speaker 2: good for them.
Speaker 1: You think if these guys are getting paid now, they're
Speaker 1: open to criticism. You don't treat them like college kids anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, except at Colorado. You gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
Speaker 2: Like you cannot listen. You gotta be careful. You cannot
Speaker 2: criticize Colorado because if you do, you're a hater. Diann'll
Speaker 2: come after you. He'll take away your media credential. You
Speaker 2: can no longer ask questions. By the way, have you
Speaker 2: ever had your media credential taken away to where somebody
Speaker 2: could have said that you can't ask me questions anymore?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 2: I mean so, the fact that it's happening at Colorado
Speaker 2: is a little odd.
Speaker 1: Well, it happened here last year.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, you can't come to the news conference anymore, great, no.
Speaker 2: Problem, I know good, I love it. Oh ruin my day.
Speaker 1: Right, if you show up after the game, you can't
Speaker 1: ask any questions? Okay, I can listen to e free
Speaker 1: answer exactly.
Speaker 2: And most of the times, And I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2: I like, I've been to press conferences before. I think
Speaker 2: I've maybe asked. Like I sometimes I would go and
Speaker 2: not ask any questions because somebody may ask the same
Speaker 2: version of a question you were going to ask anyway.
Speaker 2: So you just listen and you take down your notes,
Speaker 2: you record it with your recorder, whatever you're doing, and
Speaker 2: that's the same thing. And you don't even really need
Speaker 2: to be there to get all of that information, like
Speaker 2: you can get it else. Like, I just feel like
Speaker 2: sometimes they think they've got this power over media members
Speaker 2: that really you're not impacting the job that much. Like
Speaker 2: we could still watch the games, we could still get
Speaker 2: the quotes, we can still write the stories or discuss
Speaker 2: the topics. You're not really hampering or doing any disservice
Speaker 2: to some of the people in the media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always believed the best place to get these
Speaker 1: guys is one on one. If you set something up
Speaker 1: with them off to the side, then you get asked
Speaker 1: the questions and you can conduct the interview you want
Speaker 1: in that setting. In the press conference setting, it really
Speaker 1: is a free for all. Now, the writers need that
Speaker 1: because oftentimes everyone is not available one on one, so
Speaker 1: they've got to get in there. But the point is this,
Speaker 1: if one guy asked the question, you're going to hear
Speaker 1: the answer. And honestly, unless you've got something so incredible
Speaker 1: cooked up that you've got this one question that no
Speaker 1: one has thought of, then you can listen to the answers.
Speaker 1: By the way, you can write your story anyway you want.
Speaker 1: At least you have the quotes. So when they pull
Speaker 1: your credential, it's like last year and they took the
Speaker 1: kids credential. I think he was writing for the daily
Speaker 1: News at USCE. Okay, no problem. I don't want to
Speaker 1: battle traffic anyway. I'm good. Yeah, I'll just watch on TV.
Speaker 1: I'll just watch on TV and they get the press
Speaker 1: quotes afterwards, no problem.
Speaker 2: And I mean it's not like Lincoln Riley's dropping doozies
Speaker 2: from a quote standpoint to where you got to.
Speaker 1: Be there, Yeah, I mean like Colorado. Okay, And they
Speaker 1: do this in some NFL markets too, smaller markets, not
Speaker 1: the size of LA that would never work. But in
Speaker 1: a smaller market, we're gonna take your credential. Take it,
Speaker 1: take it right, go ahead, take it. I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: about you taking it. I'll certainly write about that, why
Speaker 1: you took it, what you're all about, how you operate.
Speaker 2: Did you hear the story about David Tepper, the owner
Speaker 2: of the Panthers. So during the draft, he was driving
Speaker 2: into the facility to go be with the team during
Speaker 2: the draft. And by the way, he's done a horrific
Speaker 2: job with that team. I mean, coach is gone. Bryce
Speaker 2: Young's never gonna get off the ground there, and it's
Speaker 2: terrible because he's a good player, but he's in a
Speaker 2: craft spot. He's on his way to the draft room
Speaker 2: for the first round of the draft. He sees a
Speaker 2: sign on a sports bar that takes some swipe at
Speaker 2: the Panthers, like hey, this time Panthers draft better or
Speaker 2: something you know like that, but like whatever, a sign
Speaker 2: at a sport He pulls over on the way to
Speaker 2: the draft and goes inside and confronts the guy at
Speaker 2: the host stand to ask them why that sign was
Speaker 2: put up and what their problem was. The guy's wearing
Speaker 2: an Eagles hat that goes in there. It's not even
Speaker 2: the guy who put the sign up, he just works
Speaker 2: at the place. And David Tepper takes the hat off
Speaker 2: his head because he didn't like the fact the guy
Speaker 2: had an Eagles hat on. I'm like, hold on a second,
Speaker 2: you imagine that, Like, hey, Dave, you know the drafts
Speaker 2: in like ten minutes, where are you at? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: at Skip's Bandit bar off the Interstate. I didn't like
Speaker 2: some guys sign and then I walked in there and
Speaker 2: a dude had an Eagles hat on. I got to
Speaker 2: take care of this. I'll be there soon. What Like,
Speaker 2: you can't control everything. And so when you see like
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley or you see Dion Sanders, Like the best
Speaker 2: part about that exchange that you have with the CBS
Speaker 2: reporter is that lost in that was the fact that
Speaker 2: somebody asked Dion Sanders a question about why he would
Speaker 2: recommend AFLAC insurance to people because that's one of his sponsors.
Speaker 2: The whole thing has gone completely off the rails, Fred,
Speaker 2: completely off the rails, and we need somebody like you
Speaker 2: who's got credential, integrity and somebody who's got a respect
Speaker 2: from the media community to step in and put a
Speaker 2: stop to this crap.
Speaker 1: Well, see, here's the thing that the teams don't understand. First,
Speaker 1: David Tepper, you got bigger issues to worry about. Your
Speaker 1: team's awful geez, so what are you worrying about this
Speaker 1: guy wearing an Eagles.
Speaker 2: Hat for sorry Adam. By the way, Adam Auslin is
Speaker 2: a Panthers fan.
Speaker 1: I'm all that fine, that's fine. They're not very good.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is completely embarrassing where this franchise has gone.
Speaker 4: He exemplifies how ownership is the biggest advantage in sports,
Speaker 4: because the Panthers are at a great disadvantage right now
Speaker 4: with Tepper throwing the drink and the Jaguars fan face
Speaker 4: last year. By the way, at a game, the guy
Speaker 4: is unhinged by the way.
Speaker 2: We keep up in the andy on what was inside
Speaker 2: the drink on the on two pros and Brady Quinn
Speaker 2: always asked me, like, what do you think was in
Speaker 2: that drink? It started with Dike coke, then it went
Speaker 2: up to light beer, then it went up to an ipa.
Speaker 2: Now we're at lighter fluid. No perfect, Yeah, like perfect,
Speaker 2: I think I read that. Yeah, like whatever, Yeah, just
Speaker 2: something along those lines that would just melt somebody's face
Speaker 2: if you planned on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing teams don't understand and look back in
Speaker 1: the day. I remember I had done something with the Rams,
Speaker 1: and this is when they were still in town. And
Speaker 1: then the player said, we're not going to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Was there.
Speaker 1: You know what I did talk about? You know what,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it when we come back. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about it when we come back. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good story. So I'll tell you what happened when
Speaker 1: we come back. Why they wouldn't talk to us and
Speaker 1: the writers wouldn't talk to us. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: story as well.