WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:08.000 a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every 3 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:11.519 thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.439 we want to one of those areas thirty one. 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 6 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.760 of it? I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds 7 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.879 time areas thirty one me neither. 8 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:26.000 There were seven one golf. 9 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.600 If it was anybody above us to pass us, like 10 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:31.719 thirty seconds ago. 11 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.920 We were sending one top of golf negative. 12 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.039 Okay, off fi the UFO. 13 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.119 Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, if you passed over. 14 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.399 I got I don't know what it was, but it's 15 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.240 from at least to three thousand feet above us. See, 16 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.399 I passed right over the top. 17 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.479 Of us ninety one one. 18 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:57.079 You just called both to be the fours they're after 19 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:58.640 staying the airplanes. 20 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:06.480 He is to God on an unidentified object every liberty 21 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:10.200 four call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 22 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share 23 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 24 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 25 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:32.519 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.879 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you 27 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.200 all doing. I'm Nick Canter and this is the UFO 28 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.719 Chronicles podcast. Tonight we meet Lee in Illinois to hear 29 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:02.599 about a mysterious project that Lee and his stepdaughterre witnessed 30 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.439 on a summer's day in July of two thousand and eight. 31 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.960 The sighting left Lee perplexed and is hoping to find 32 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.960 other people that possibly could have seen the same object. Lee, 33 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.520 now retired, spent more than three decades with the United 34 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.800 States government as a technical enforcement officer and criminal investigator 35 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.520 in undercover operations, where he specialized in electronic surveillance and 36 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.800 control deliveries. Lee would also recount his near death experience 37 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.840 from twenty nineteen, where he found himself in a purlescent 38 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.680 white room and was asked are you ready to go? 39 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.240 Lee is up next, but first, if you enjoyed the 40 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.639 show and you would like to help support the podcast 41 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.199 on Patreon, you can do this for as little as 42 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.360 one dollar a month, head on over to patreon dot 43 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.360 com forward slash UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find 44 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.039 a link in the description of this episode any help 45 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:15.159 is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Lee, 46 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:16.960 welcome to the podcast. 47 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.240 Hello, how are you today? I am great? 48 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.560 Thank you Lee. It is great to have you join 49 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:28.479 us today and you'll call in from Illinois in the US. Yes, sir, Now, Lee, 50 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.639 you have some experiences to share with us. Would you 51 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:33.520 like to start at the beginning please, sir? 52 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:35.439 Sure, you bet it. 53 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:41.240 My career has been with federal government and over spans 54 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:46.240 over thirty years. I started with the Army and went 55 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.400 to work for US Custom Service, and then went back 56 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:54.080 to the Army and was a Defense Department employee. And 57 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:58.400 my pretty much my entire career was spent doing special 58 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:05.000 investigations and undercover operations along the way. I had obviously 59 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:13.919 access to and assigned Thermo imagery, night vision equipment, pretty 60 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.120 good optics, cameras. 61 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.480 All along the way. 62 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:23.439 And we got initially in contact because I was searching 63 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:29.759 for witnesses that possibly have ever seen a sphere that's described. 64 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:34.279 I've recently written a book it's called Orbit, and in 65 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.279 chapter one it describes a sighting that happened in sighting 66 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.480 was true. It was something that my daughter, my stepdaughter, 67 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:47.519 and I had happened to us approximately. 68 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.879 Twenty eleven, twenty twelve. I believe it was. 69 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.720 There might even been a year or two earlier than that. 70 00:04:55.000 --> 00:05:01.040 And it was a hot summer day, July, probably ninety 71 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.920 five degrees out and we had a pool in our 72 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.879 backyard and the stepdaughter and I was in the pool 73 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.199 and we were playing catch with the nerf ball, and 74 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.839 she stopped and pointed up and asked, what was that? 75 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:18.600 And I turned around and I looked. 76 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.199 And the best way to describe it, if you go 77 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:26.399 to my Twitter account X account, you'll see pictures of 78 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:33.800 it on there. Imagine three perfectly round spheres oriented two 79 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.199 at the bottom, one at the top in a triangle orientation, 80 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:44.240 and they were all connected with like these pipes or arms. 81 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.800 And the size of the spheres were. 82 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.800 I would say the size of a maybe a smaller 83 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.639 two story home. I often describe it the size of 84 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:03.040 my barn that we had out back. They were very large, 85 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.680 and they were approximately two hundred meters from us. When 86 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.920 we saw this, it wasn't moving in the sky. It 87 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:16.759 was just sitting there. And she, my daughter, asked me, 88 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.680 you know what is that? And I told her, you know, 89 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.120 I have no idea. Let's just watch it. And the 90 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:31.360 thing was reflective. All three spheres were almost like a 91 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:37.000 stainless steel or even chrome reflection, had no flex skin 92 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.800 like a balloon, did not flex at all. 93 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:44.519 It was close enough that you could see it appeared solid. 94 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.279 In that particular day, there was a due south wind, 95 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.800 probably ten fifteen miles an hour. We live in the prairie, 96 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.519 and every day in the prairie is a windy day. 97 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.560 If you live out in the country and not in 98 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:04.399 the city, which we did. And we continued to watch it. 99 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.040 At this point, me and her both at the edge 100 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:11.399 of the pool and looking up at it, and we 101 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:17.160 noticed the music we had playing it stopped, probably within a. 102 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:19.040 Minute. 103 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:25.439 It flexed almost violently from side to side. Imagine putting 104 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.160 a ping pong ball in a mason jar and giving 105 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:32.839 it a shake. It flexed like that, and all three 106 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:38.079 spheares flexed and wobbled from side to side. And then 107 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:44.079 it moved a little bit due north. And when it moved, 108 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:50.519 I noticed that the pool itself had a certain vibration 109 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:55.480 to it, like the water was rippling, kind of imagine 110 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.839 a ultrasonic jewelry cleaner when you turn moseon. 111 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.879 How that water's sort of ripples. 112 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.839 The water in the pool was doing that, and I 113 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.199 noticed it, but my stepdaughter was just completely fixated on 114 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:16.759 watching this craft. And it wobbled one more time, and 115 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:22.439 then it accelerated due north. And I can't say that 116 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:27.959 it was an instantaneous acceleration, but it did start slow 117 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:34.360 and then it went to almost hyper speed. And like 118 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.039 I say, it went due north, and it also went 119 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:44.919 up and where our sky is there, it's unobstructed, and 120 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.759 I would guess within two and a half seconds it 121 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:53.759 was gone completely out of sight. And so this was 122 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.759 something like I say, that was each one of those 123 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:02.159 spears were larger than a two story home, and they 124 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:07.080 all three were connected in a triangle formation. And when 125 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.919 it took off, it took off and it did not 126 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.080 change any position at all. Imagine two balls on the 127 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:21.360 horizon and then one ball orientated in the middle above 128 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:26.159 the other two, and then these pipes connecting them, and so. 129 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.600 The acceleration that occurred. 130 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.840 Is I mean to me, is almost unimaginable. I've been 131 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.759 on numerous Air Force bases and test base facilities, and 132 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:46.039 I've seen a large percentage of the inventory of the 133 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.200 aircraft that we have and how they move and This 134 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:55.519 was absolutely nothing like that. And the conversation that as 135 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.159 soon as it was gone, she looked at me and 136 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:02.240 you know, what was that? And I go, before we 137 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.200 even talk about it, I want you to draw it, 138 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.120 and I'm going to draw it. And so we both 139 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.639 right then and there, before we did anything else, we 140 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.840 took the time and drew what we saw, just because 141 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.360 I wanted to compare, you know. 142 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.960 What she believed she saw what I believed I saw. 143 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.519 At the time, she was only twelve years old, maybe 144 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:28.000 so old enough to understand things, you know, approaching junior 145 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.159 high grade, and not certainly. 146 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.200 Not little kid. She was not a little kid at 147 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:33.600 that time. 148 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.320 And you know, she drew exactly what both of us saw, 149 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:42.159 and we've we've talked about it occasionally, you know, throughout 150 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:42.600 the years. 151 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.000 Hey, you remember when we saw that. 152 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.840 Oh and when the thing left, the music came back on, 153 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.320 and so, you know, we both thought that was kind. 154 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:58.639 Of freaky, and that happened, Like I say, probably, I'm going. 155 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.480 To say it was a year or so before twenty ten, 156 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.360 twenty eleven, around two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. 157 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:10.240 After that, she was hot too. Let's go see if 158 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.759 we can find UFOs. You know, she was at that 159 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.600 perfect age, and so of the evening we would get 160 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.159 in the truck and drive. We lived basically right on 161 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.480 the Illinois River, and there's a military installation to our west, 162 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.919 and we have nuclear facilities to the east, and so 163 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.440 you know, we would drive back and forth and just 164 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.799 look for UFOs, you know, and of course we didn't 165 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:38.720 really see anything. 166 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.559 One night, we thought we saw a triangle, but you know, 167 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.759 we can't verify it for sure. But that thing that 168 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:49.279 we saw was the middle of the day, hot summer day. 169 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:53.720 There was no doubt what it was and what we saw, 170 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.240 and how large it was, and the way that it 171 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:00.120 moved in the way that accelerates it. 172 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:02.360 I looked for. 173 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:08.960 Rivets, I looked for scenes, I looked for little logos 174 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.759 on the thing, and there was nothing at all like that. 175 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.279 It was probably the one of the most fascinating things 176 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.759 I saw. And as I said to you earlier when 177 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.320 we were chatting, I wrote a book. 178 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:27.720 Called Orbit, and it's out there now, and that sighting 179 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:31.240 is basically chapter one of the book, and that's how 180 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:36.159 the book starts. And so we uh, as I said before, 181 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:41.879 I was assigned all kinds of gear for my my job, 182 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.879 and you know, I had the ability to use thermo 183 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.360 images any any hour of the day that I wanted 184 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:50.600 night vision. 185 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:52.120 You know. 186 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.480 It was basically all this stuff was housed in my 187 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.039 rexsac or the vault in the back of my pickup truck, 188 00:12:59.120 --> 00:12:59.279 you know. 189 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:04.600 And so with something that happened. 190 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.639 Early on in my career combined with what happened in 191 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.840 that backyard the swimming pool, I was never a UFO 192 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.799 guy before this, but I sort of became a UFO 193 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:19.559 guy that day. 194 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:23.759 If that makes any sense, it certainly does. That is 195 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:27.639 surely an interesting sightingly, Yeah, it. 196 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.279 Was special, that's for sure. Special and unique. 197 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:36.919 It's not a particular design to your conventional sightings that 198 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.639 we get does seem to be very rare but not 199 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.679 unheard of. Now, obviously this is an audio show, so 200 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.480 people at the minute can't see the design, but I 201 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:49.080 will make these links available down in the description and 202 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.120 on the website so you can see the drawing Lee 203 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.200 has done. But think of something like a molecule structure 204 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.039 that is probably the closest to it. And also so 205 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.440 it's something that we've seen before in actually in a 206 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:04.919 crop circle, believe it or not. 207 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.639 Oh really, see I'm not aware of that. 208 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.960 Yes, crop circle in nineteen ninety two, that was Olwen 209 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:16.840 Barnes in Wiltshire and that's the identical design. And I 210 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:21.720 think it's also the logo of doctor Stephen Greer the 211 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.039 c Setti they used that for their logo. 212 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.720 Yeah, I have seen that, and when I first saw it, 213 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.960 I thought, okay, that looks similar. I don't know if 214 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.720 you're familiar with Grant Cameron, but I was speaking to 215 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.360 him one day and told him about it, and he 216 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:41.879 did a little bit of research on it and he 217 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.960 thought that there was possibly a couple of sightings in England. 218 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:47.600 That were similar. 219 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.600 But I never did get any other reports on him 220 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:53.600 or was able to read anything else about him. So 221 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.799 occasionally when I'm on X, I post a bolo be 222 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:02.759 on the lookout for this object, and then I'll post 223 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:08.320 that picture. And I've just got very very few responses 224 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:09.840 on that particular picture. 225 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.000 What we'll do is I'll post out and see if 226 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:14.840 we get any anything back. 227 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.399 I'm one of those that I'll go on X, but 228 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:23.440 I'm more of a stalker, you know, sort of just 229 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.519 kind of be in the background, and you know, I'll 230 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.519 go into some of the spaces to listen, and you know, 231 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.200 some of it gets you want to call it wacky, 232 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:36.639 but I've for my entire life and my entire career 233 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:45.879 it's been observation research, you know, very methodical type of investigations, 234 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.279 and so my approach to these UFO things is very 235 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.720 similar to you know, how I would do any type 236 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:58.279 of special investigation, and hearsay is nice, but I want 237 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.559 to see some evidence, which I understand I don't have 238 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:05.960 evidence on these three spheres other than a second witness, 239 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.720 and you know, two people seeing something is way better 240 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:13.000 than just one seeing it. You know, I've been asked 241 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:17.080 before if I was a whistleblower, and I'm definitely not 242 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:22.320 a whistleblower. However, I did witness something in the very 243 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.759 early nineties, and I'm hoping that at some point I'll 244 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.559 be able to come forward and talk more about it. 245 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.759 It was something that I witnessed in a couple others. 246 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:35.519 I was with the Army at that time and we 247 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:41.159 were doing a special investigation. It was basically for a 248 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:47.039 environmental type impact study. I can't go into all the details, 249 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:53.080 but something came up during the investigation and it got 250 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:58.240 shut down very very quickly, and we were basically told to, 251 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:02.679 you know, go go investigation something else, and of course 252 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.119 signed some NDA's in that. 253 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.559 But there's a couple people that are. 254 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:14.400 Aware of this and they're trying to basically unblock the 255 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.799 roads so we can maybe talk about it more, if 256 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:19.920 that makes any sense. 257 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:21.599 It certainly does intrigue in. 258 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:27.240 N Yeah, I know, it's a hell of a tease, right, Yeah, 259 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:28.880 Well that's the way it is. 260 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:29.759 Yeah. 261 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:34.240 And with that incident, it was very brief, very short, 262 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:38.640 and you know, I was young enough at that time 263 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:41.480 that I'm just wait whatever the colonel said, Man, that's 264 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.279 what I'm doing. And life went on, and we were told, 265 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.799 you know, not to discuss it anymore, and so we 266 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.240 never did, you know. And then after this thing that 267 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.440 we saw in the backyard in two thousand and nine ish, 268 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.720 we'll say, you know, sort of reinforced something that that 269 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.839 that we saw back in the early nineties. And that's 270 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:08.920 really when for me I sort of became more interested 271 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.680 in the topic than just following it on the news. 272 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.440 And so I started at around that point, and even 273 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.119 a little before that point, I would turn the thermo 274 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.640 imagery up to the sky, the night vision if we 275 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.000 were out in the evening doing operations and we had downtime. 276 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.519 You know, I don't know if you've ever looked through 277 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.799 night vision on a sorry night, but it's incredible. You'll 278 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.960 see literally billions of stars instead of all the shiny 279 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.599 ones that you know, you're sure you can see the 280 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.400 Big Dipper at night, but if you look through night vision, 281 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:46.920 that Big Dipper is going to be full of stars, 282 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:48.480 if that makes any sense. 283 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:49.599 There. 284 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.079 They are wonderful tools. 285 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.400 You know, you can any moment that you would look 286 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.079 up in the sky with night vision at night, on 287 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:03.640 a clear night, you'll immediately see satellites and they're very distinct. 288 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.240 They don't blink, they they move at a consistent pace 289 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.920 across the sky. Some of them are faster than others, 290 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:18.000 and they certainly don't make any turns. And occasionally you'll 291 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.240 see something similar to that that will all of a 292 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.240 sudden make a one hundred and eighty degree turn and 293 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.240 then you know you you found one. 294 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.200 Whatever that was, you found one. 295 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.880 And you know, we've we've made notes of those, and 296 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:39.720 we even have several that we've videoed that I can 297 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.759 share with you, you know, certainly offline here recently within 298 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.720 the last probably two or three years, we've been noticing 299 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.960 more of the orbs in the sky. 300 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:54.319 I don't know if you follow Chris Blood. 301 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:58.240 So he posts a lot of the orbs that he sees, 302 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.279 and we've we've been seeing similar and we've certainly put 303 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.000 several of them up on x. 304 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:09.920 X seems to be the my go to platform. 305 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.920 I'm on Instagram and I'm on a few others, but 306 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.039 it seems like I spend the most of. 307 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:16.839 My time on X. It is. 308 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.559 It's the place where I'm all the time. I've always 309 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.119 got to open on my desktop. 310 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:21.359 I did. 311 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:24.160 Yeah, I'm the same. I have Facebook and Instagram, but 312 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:26.359 they don't get the attention like I give to X. 313 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:27.079 Yeah. 314 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:31.680 So there's, like I say, the ones that I post 315 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:38.480 that our videos are usually videos that I have taken myself. There. 316 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:43.279 There was a recent one that me, I think it's 317 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:44.359 pretty profound. 318 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:49.480 I was driving down our highway, a little two lane 319 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.440 highway out in the middle of the plains of Illinois, 320 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.160 and I saw bald leagles coming. The thing was flying 321 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:01.559 straight at me. And you know, we see them occasionally. 322 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:05.640 We live near a small river, so where our house is, 323 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.559 i'll probably see a ball to eagle maybe once a week, 324 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:13.279 maybe two three times a month, and so anytime you 325 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:17.119 see one, it's special. And so I saw this one 326 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.759 coming straight down the highway flying. I mean, he was 327 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.559 hauling the mail man. He was flying very very fast. 328 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.400 So I pulled the truck over and I got my 329 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.759 iPhone ready to take a picture when he come up close. 330 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.000 And so he got alongside of me, and I real 331 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:39.960 quick hit the picture taking button like twice, once and 332 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:43.319 then another time, and then he flew on by. And 333 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:48.599 so later, you know, I looked at that picture, and 334 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.359 the first picture, I was a little disappointed because I 335 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:56.400 didn't zoom in. I just you know, if you zoomed 336 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.400 in on the eagle, you could see it was an eagle, 337 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:00.960 and you can see it was bald eagle. 338 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:02.839 But you know, I was a little bit disappointed in 339 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:03.319 the picture. 340 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.000 Then I swiped over and I looked at the second one, 341 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.960 and imagine, it's hard to explain and audio only. If 342 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.279 we were on video, I could have you look at 343 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:19.240 the pictures, but there was a telephone pole in both pictures. 344 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:23.920 That imagine that as your reference point, okay, And then 345 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.440 on the first picture you see the bald eagle and 346 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:31.279 you see the distance the eagle is from the telephone pole, 347 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:36.000 and bald eagles will fly anywhere from fifty five miles 348 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.640 an hour all the way up to ninety miles an hour, 349 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.640 depending how you know fast are going and if they're 350 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.759 headed straight down or whatever. But this thing, like I say, 351 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.759 it was flying fast. So then I swiped over to 352 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.039 the second picture, and you can see the bald eagle 353 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.960 did not change very much in terms of distance away 354 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:01.119 from that telephone pole. And then in the second there's 355 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:06.079 three anomalies that showed up underneath the bald eagle, and 356 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.240 they're very faint when you look at the picture, but 357 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.799 when you zoom in on it, you can clearly see 358 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:20.839 one as a saucer shape, and the other two are blurry, 359 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.400 so it's hard to make a definite shape of what 360 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.000 the other two are. But the reason I say that 361 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.440 this image to me is profound evidence is because you 362 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:39.519 have the camera is stopped in a fixed point away 363 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.240 from the camera, you have a telephone pole that is 364 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.759 also at a fixed point, it's not moving, and. 365 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.000 Then you have a bald eagle that has a known 366 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:56.480 speed in flight that very very much did not move 367 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:58.000 in the picture. 368 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.799 So my point is that by the position of the 369 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:04.680 eagle to the telephone pole. You can tell that I 370 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.759 snapped those two pictures nearly at the same time. 371 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.359 And now in the second. 372 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:16.880 Picture you have three anomalies show up. Okay, those anomalies. 373 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:21.119 Are not anywhere visible in first picture. So let's imagine that. 374 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.839 We'll just say one of those anomalies was another bald 375 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.039 eagle flying in the opposite direction. 376 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:29.640 Okay. 377 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.079 If that was would have been the case, you would 378 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:37.440 have still saw it in the first picture. At best, 379 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.160 it would have made twice the distance that the original 380 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:42.960 eagle made going southbound. 381 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:46.559 If does that make sense to you? Okay? 382 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:50.559 And so I had somebody in the ex community that 383 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:57.880 has the ability to analyze photographs, analyze the photograph, and 384 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:04.839 this person believes that whatever those three anomalies are, they 385 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.440 have a high electric field based off of whatever the 386 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.200 software is that she uses to analyze them. 387 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.799 And so you know, I'd be more than happy to 388 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.480 send you these photos. Nick. They're to me, like I say, 389 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.759 I think they're quite profound and have. 390 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:26.119 Indicate evidence, mostly because I know that I took them, 391 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.880 and I can recreate that same photograph by the location 392 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:36.640 of where it occurred, and even the very most fast. 393 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.279 We have falcons in our area that are certainly faster. 394 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.559 Than a bald eagle, But what's the odds of three 395 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:51.079 falcons overtaking a bald eagle position in literally less. 396 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:56.359 Than one second. It's not very likely. And the fact 397 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.119 that the one anomaly you can clearly see is a 398 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:00.960 saucer shape. 399 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:06.759 And so I posted that photo on x I thought 400 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.240 it would probably get some sort of traction, but you know, 401 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.359