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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is April April.

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Beck. How are you well?

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Speaker 2: Feared to Midlin? How about yourself?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great having you here. Thank you for your time. April,

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Please give us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, my name is April. I grew up in a

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very rural area of Pennsylvania. I was split up between

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here and the mountains by Ohio Palace State Park. I

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traveled the US a lot for my business. I owned

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a large and small animal reproduction clinic, so I was

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able to travel a lot. I was able to see

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a lot. I'd settled in Canyon, Texas for a while

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and the winds just wasn't for me. The Texans were amazing, though,

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and I ended up finding myself back in Pennsylvania. So

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I grew I guess I had a pretty good childhood.

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I grew up in the mountains, playing in the mountains

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that was my backyard, fishing, hunting, camping. I really I

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think I took a lot of that for looking back now,

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but I had pretty decent childhood with my grandparents and

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I would go to my mother's. It was a split custody.

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I bread Italian mastiffs Neapolitans for a long time. I

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campaigned them in AKC. I recently decided to walk away

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from doing that. It was just too much of a heartbreak,

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and I was working on importing a Central Asian shepherd.

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I ended up my friend sent me another picture of

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a Neapolitan. I ended up getting him, so I kind

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of squashed the Central Asian dog. So it's just my

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dog and I. We go on a lot of adventures.

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His name is Aris. He's very, very protective, but very

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in tune with what's going on around us. And I've

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learned to read him and he reads me. And that's

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about it.

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Speaker 2: What a great childhood. I'm jealous. Sure sounds to me

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like you grew up in some beautiful places. I'm wondering

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the wandering around the mountains the way you did all

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those times. What was the most frightening thing that ever

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happened to you that wasn't dog men related.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I had chickens growing up, and my

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chickens were they were my best friend. And I can

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recall two cases, two incidents. I was, I had my

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backpack and if I couldn't find rope in case because

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there was there was cliffs and I always liked to

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go to the waterfalls. I grabbed my grandfather's heavy duty

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fishing line and I put that in the bag. I

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packed my I made peanut butter and jelly sandwich is

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for myself, and I packed my rooster, Violet, and I

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put him in my backpack and I would take At

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that time, Poochi was alive. He was my border collie,

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and we would set up out on an adventure. And

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I remember there was this one pass that we had.

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It was after the coke ovens and there was this

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one it was like, I don't want to say, it

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was not quite a valley, but you could look down

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and it was a drop off and I had thought

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something was running behind the trees, and I just had

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this weird feeling and I thought, well, I have Poochy here,

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he's a good watchdog, and I have Violet, and I

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can't even that particular trip. I found a whale. I

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had gotten myself so lost. I found a well in

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the middle of the woods, and when I heard the

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helicopters above head, and I thought that. I thought I

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was gone for hours and hours. It must have been

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only I don't know. I don't know how long it was,

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but I thought my grandparents said, the search and rescue

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you out after me. That wasn't the case at all.

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But I told my grandfather about the well, and he

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told me I should never. He was always yelling at

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me for going into the woods, especially alone, and looking back.

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He would tell me when he would go. He taught

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me how to track, which I am so thankful for,

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and I think that's why my situation awareness is so enhightened.

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I spot things everywhere that shouldn't be their movement anything.

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I think I owe that to him. But he would

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tell me when I was younger, when he would go walking,

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he was looking for mushrooms. He loved to look for mushrooms,

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the little morals, and he loved looking for them. And

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he's like I would ask him. I said, well, we

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had bears, and Pennsylvania says, we don't have mountain liones,

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but we do have mountain lions, we indeed do. And

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he'd say, well, I only need to to bullets, and

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I never understood that growing up. He would say I

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need one for it and then the other one, and

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I never understood that until I was in my forties.

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I just turned forty three and it just hit me

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what that meant. And I was like, Oh my gosh.

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And I was in these woods constantly. Another time I

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would hop on my horse and they would tell me,

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don't go off in the woods. She could break her

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leg and we'd have to put her down. Every chance

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I got, I would go up this. I would go

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up the backside of the mountain where there was a

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I'd say about a month and a half ago, there

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was an attack and the park rangers just closed off

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the area and they were in tactical vests. The black

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s uvs were there and there had been an attack

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on six fly fishermen, and that's where I used to

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ride my horse. I would go there all the time

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because I could. I liked watching the fish swim around.

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The water was so clear, and I just thought, oh

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my gosh, looking back, when I was younger, i'd have

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my rooster, or i'd have after Poochie passed. I had

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my Australian shepherd Lady and she was able to sit

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up on the horse with me when I would take her.

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But I always I was like man, I was mills

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on wheels for whatever was out there. But nothing ever

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bothered me. In the woods, you could feel something watching you,

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but that wasn't all the time. And Pooci he was

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such a good boy. He was. He was just a

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I guess all of my dogs have get really good dogs.

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And that was about I see. I started going off

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on my own at about like seven. I would sneak

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out there and it was for me. It was like

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my second home. And then there was this other time.

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I do have family in Romania. My cousin came to

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visit and we thought we found there was an X

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and it was right down from where my grandparents they

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had their first house burnt down. Oh my gosh, I

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shouldn't admit this. When I was young, we watched Oh

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my god, my grandfa My grandparents were big on the

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John Wayne movies, loved the John Wayne movies. And I

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was on my grandma's bed and I made I went

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out and I gathered twigs and whatever I could find.

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But I did this in the time that they weren't

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checking on me, And they always checked on me, especially

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when I was quiet. And made the circle on the bed,

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and I figured out how to use a lighter, and

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I lit her bed on fire, and I was standing

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on the bed, I was doing the pool and I

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have my little cap gun.

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Speaker 2: Going oh no, oh, my.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I can't believe I just admitted that I was

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the reason the house burnt down. One fire went out,

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and I think one was little on my fot that day.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll bet it was.

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Speaker 3: Looking back, I think it was a terror.

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Speaker 2: It sure sounds like you were. You were a monster

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back then.

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Speaker 3: A great imagination, for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'd say you did. I'd say you definitely did.

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dot com. All right, April, please tell us about your encounters. Now,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so my very first encounter, well, let me uh,

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let me start here. My father has since passed, and

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I do not the latter years. He there was a

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lot of trauma there. He dabbled in. He said he

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was a warlock. He did a lot of horrible things,

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horrible things to the point where he told me that

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he had sold my soul to the devil. He had.

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And this was me as a child being told this

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that he wasn't my father. He did some horrible things.

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And I was probably about eight years old, and we

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lived in a I was at my mother's at this time.

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They had separated, and the apartment my mother was at

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we were I was with some friends and we were

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going to camp out that night. But prior we had

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just broke off and we were playing Captured a Flag.

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semi trucks parked down in the field where we would

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play soccer, volleyball or whatever. They had them park there,

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and I was hiding in one of the semi trailers.

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I was hiding between the wheels because I was so small,

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and I was hiding in there, and I mean, I

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must have won. I don't know. I finally got tired

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because I didn't hear anybody calling out anymore. And my

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mother's apartment was straight up the hill and to the

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right the woods started, and then directly behind my mother's

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when another hill and led right into the cemetery. So

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the cemetery was pretty much like right on top of us.

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I had come running up the hill, and two her

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house was to the left of me about I want

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to say, he's seventy five feet away, so I was

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right there. And then I was in between her house

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and my friend's house where we were camping. And then

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all the woods were right there in the cemetery, and

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I just popped up the hill and I looked to

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my right, and standing there was he was a very

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lighter color. But I didn't know it. You know, our

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term was a dog man. It was a werewolf, and

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it I froze dead in my my shoes. I just froze.

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wearing a loincloth and possibly a vest. The vest is

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still a little cloudy, but I remember seeing that loincloth,

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and he was lighter in color. He had some grays

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and light browns mixed in him, and he pointed. He

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stopped and pointed at my mother's house. Oh my gosh,

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I got the chains and I I there was I

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wanted to run, I wanted to do so many things.

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I couldn't move. But he didn't. He wasn't malicious. He

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just pointed at the house. And finally I took off.

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I booked it. There. We could have he could have

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grabbed me. His arms were easily long enough to have

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grabbed me or snatched me or did anything. But he

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just pointed in my mother's apartment. It was a townhouse.

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There was We had two windows downstairs, and these windows

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were huge. They're four foot by four foot, so they

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were really big windows. And I was like, oh, man,

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if this thing wants in, I couldn't even I couldn't

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think straight. I was locking the window. She would open them.

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I would close them and walk them and pull the

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blinds down. I didn't This went on for a while,

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and then I guess my way of dealing with trauma

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is I tuck everything away and I forget about it.

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I don't know if it's a superpower, but I just

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I eventually I got over it and just forgot about it. Well,

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in that area, we we had the woods and we

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built this gigantic clubhouse, and we thought the older the

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older boys that lived there, they were I don't know,

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maybe fifteen sixteen, they had a good about seven years

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on us. We thought they had found our little clubhouse.

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I mean, we put some time into that. It looked

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like a little cabin. By the time we were finished.

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It was completely destroyed after we'd been going there, and

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we thought that the guys, all the boys, had destroyed it.

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But there would be times when we would be on

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our bikes. We had these little ramps we made in

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the woods, and we'd be riding our bikes and my friend,

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our name was Rachel. She would say, do you see that?

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it was in your griphiel and I would be like, oh, no, no, no,

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I could fill it. I could fill the presence. So

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we'd ride a little faster and then we just wouldn't

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go back in the woods. But there was that presence there,

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and it looked like the knight that I encountered it

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when he pointed at my mother's. He was heading that

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the tent was right off to the right of us,

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and where he was going. Then the woods were right there,

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so the tent was pretty much just right out of

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the woodline. And then you went up that hill when

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you were right in the cemetery. Then after that cemetery

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went into a giant cornfield. You crossed, and the road

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isn't even we're so rural in the population of three hundred,

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I'm surprised that the road still not a dirt road,

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to be honest, but it's a single lane road to

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this day. And then right there's cornfield and that seemed

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to be the way it was heading. I didn't stop,

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I didn't look. I remember getting in the house and

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just crying. My mother was a nurse at a retirement home,

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and I was so worked up. I called her and

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she's like, oh, she thought I was going crazy, but

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she could tell by my tone something was really wrong.

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And that was my very first encounter. And man, it

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sometimes I know it was so many years ago, but

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when you're recanting everything and you're it feels like it

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was just yesterday. But I remember he was so massive.

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I don't remember seeing a tail, but he was just

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really light in color, and I was I was afraid.

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I was petrified. But he didn't hurt me. It didn't

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seem like he wanted to hurt me, and he didn't grow.

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It didn't make any sounds, just pointed, and that was

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enough for me. I think I came. My friends would

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be allowed out until like dusk, then we had to be.

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I was in before that sun went down, and I

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was constantly locking all the windows, all the doors. I

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was pulling the blind down, thinking that would help. But

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I then after that, I hadn't seen, had had an

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encounter for years. Now, these corn fields where it was going.

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We used to raid every October to go corning, and

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we would we'd take our backpacks, we'd take pillowcases and

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carry as much corn as we could to go throw

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people's doors. That was horrible growing up. And that was

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the corn fields. If it was going that direction, which

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that's the way it was facing. And another thing that

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you know, I'm thinking about, I don't know how long

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it was there. It must have known that I was

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already there. It must have been watching us. And some

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of that runs through my mind too now it does,

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But back then, oh man, I just thought, oh my gosh,

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there's a werewolf, and it just pointed. It took a

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lot out of me, and then h my second encounter.

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I had forgotten about this. So I had forgotten about this.

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I'd grown up. Several years passed and I was at

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my grandparents' house, my dad's parents, And like I said

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in the introduction, I was always in the woods always.

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Poochie had passed and I still I had my rooster

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packed him in my backpack. I had some beef jerky.

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I had stuff for Poochie if he needed any anything.

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I had his water dish. I had some water that

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I remember. I dumped the milk she used to milk

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milk jug for his water, but it was getting heavy,

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so I didn't fill it all the way up. And

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I packed toilet paper. Also. I figured this was going

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to be a good day. We were going out and

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I like to track the deer prince. Always loved seeing

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the deer prince. I was always so faucu needed with him,

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and I had, like I said, I put my rooster

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in the backpack and we set out, and Lady was

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with me. She was not a big dog. She was

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an Australian shepherd American eskimo spits, so she was maybe

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like twenty pounds. She was such a good little dog,

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and we were just cruising, and we were so deep

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in I would never I knew my directions north south,

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east west. I knew which way most of the time,

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how to get back home. Sometimes I popped out where

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I was a little confused and really shocked. And I

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know I would have had my hind behind Den would

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have been tanned if they got me there. And she

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was leading the way, which she always stayed by my

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side for the most part, and we had heard something.

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I think she heard it first. She had to have

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heard it first, but she picked up her pace a

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little bit, so I was following her, and if I

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would call her, she'd run right back to me. She

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had a great recall. There was we walked, I don't

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know how long it was. There was this black pop

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and he had been shot and he had had something

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traumatic and it was lying there and I thought it

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was a black German shepherd. That's what I didn't. I

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knew my dog breeds, but not all of my dog breeds,

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and I had thought, oh my gosh, somebody shot this

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puppy and he was a decent size at that time,

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I may be weighed a hundred pounds, and he was

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snipping her. He was whining a little bit. I had

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got down and at this point so I have extremely

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my empathic I'm very empathic and I can pick up

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on I've always connected with animals. I connected with people

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as well. I tried not to because it trains everything

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out of you, just the emotions, even animals that have

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had things done to them. It just drained you. And

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I could feel he was scared. And I knelt down

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and I slowly I had the beef, turkey and stuff,

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and I said, you're okay, I'm not going to hurt you.

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And I just kept speaking in a low term. I said,

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I'm going to come closer. Said, but I'm not going

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to hurt you. I'm here to help. He was a

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little more interested in my rooster on my back. Like

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I told you before, I say, I was nothing but meals.

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I say, meals on wheels, but a shoe leather expressed

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with the chicken, and uh. I got closer. He didn't growl,

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he just studied me. I called lady back to me,

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and she sat by my side. I said, okay, I said,

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we're going to do this, and I held out the

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jerky and he took it. But to me, so his

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eyes were this shade of it was the most intense gold,

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like a bronzed gold. It when he looked at me,

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it felt like immediately he just looked right through my soul.

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And I remember gasping and I said, okay, buddy, sit,

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I'm here. I said, I don't know who did this

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to you. I said, but you're safe. I said, you

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have a home. Now, I'm going to take you home.

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And I told him, I said, I'm happy, will help you.

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I said, you have a home. And I don't know

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how he was heavy. I don't know how I mustard

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the adrenaline. We had to go up hills and it

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wasn't like little hills, they were decent hills. And then

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I had to go back down them and I carried

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him and he may have whimpered like a few times,

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and the whole trip back he just wanted to eat

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my rooster. And I'm like, no, you can't have him.

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I'm sure if my chicken could tell a story, he'd

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probably tell a whole other horror story of his own.

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But I got him back and my grandfather, and it

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took a long time for me to get back. He

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had suspected at this time something might have gone wrong,

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and I was out in the woods and he was

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I believe he was just getting his shoes on to

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come looking for me, which you know, there has been

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times I thought in this area it was called the

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Slave pal We had coal and we had a lot

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of mining going on in the coke ovens on our property,

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and I thought something was coming after me. I went

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straight up the pine tree and I had that fight

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or flight, and I was pretty young then, but I

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was gone for so long. My grandfather actually came to

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find me, and he came up that pine tree. He

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was about I don't know eighty one at that time.

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We both got stuck up in the pine tree, and

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then my uncle came over to visit my grandpa, and

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my uncle jumped. I could hear the four wheeler coming

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and we were both I was up that tree. I

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don't know how many hours at this point my grandfather

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was up there with me. They ended up calling the

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fire department to get us out of the top of

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the pine tree, and my grandfather asked me, said, what

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were you doing up there, I said, I thought something

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was coming after me. Something scared me. And then that

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was when I got the whole lecture. You shouldn't be

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out here alone. I've told you that, so it was

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more of a lecture and a lesson learnt. But I

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don't know what was coming that day, but something had

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scared me. I was rarely afraid, and this was one

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of the times I didn't take my dog with me.

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I went solo to go check out the deer prints

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and the sleigh poald was pretty cool because the hills

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were so big you could take your When I was younger,

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it was a lot of fun. We take our sleds

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and in the dead of summer you could ride the

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sleigh poal on your sled, and I would do that

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from time to time. But I just I went all

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by myself that day and something had scared me enough,

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and that had happened well too. I got off my story.

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I get back to the house and I was haff

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and and poffing. My body was aching from carrying him,

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and I had blood. I had his blood on me,

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and lady she was so proud. He's like, look what

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we found. And my grandfather looked at him, and I

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could tell immediately by the look on my grandfather's face.

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He was kind of I'm getting these bumps again. He

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looked back at me and his expression was, you should

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have left this where you found it, should not have

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brought it here. He said it was some kind of wolf.

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We I thought a black German shepherd. He just had

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these intense eyes and he had absolutely no weight on him.

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And I ended up well. In Romanian, umbra is the

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word for shadow, but my grandfather would call him that,

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and I would call him shadow. He my grandfather worked

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his magic. He was so My background is there's Native

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American and a lot of Eastern European, which is the Romanian.

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My grandfather had heal I thought anything anybody in the world.

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He just worked his magic, and he said, I don't

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know if I don't know if he's going to make it.

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But he had antibiotics of course for the horses. And

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the whole time my grandfather was working on him, he

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never growled, never whimpered. He just laid there and he

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ended up shadow recovered, and he never he wouldn't my side.

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And he played so well with lady. He was so

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big compared to her. It was like so it would

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be like he was the size of a lab, a

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healthy lab, and she was just a little twenty pound dog.

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So so funny watching him play, and he was so gentle. Well,

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my grandparents, that's my was my father's parents, and my

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dad he was to this day he passed. I didn't

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attend his funeral. And the cruelty, the you know, there

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was this other time. I was twelve and I had

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just I came in the house. I was I had

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my rooster. I was moving him because Shadow was trying

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to eat him again. And I came through the house

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and my dad was standing there and he was he

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was just he was a real piece of work. I

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don't know if it was drugs, if it was the

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satanic stuff he was into. But I had said something

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and I don't remember if I said hi, Dad, I

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or something. I just walked around. I had my chicken,

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and he had what my grandfather's pistol. He put it

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to my head and I looked up at him, and

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I was so young, and I said, if you're going

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to do it, then do it. I don't know what

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triggered him. Shadow came from behind and he just oh, man,

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he just on leash. He was growling, and then I

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thought my dad was going to shoot him. But Shadow

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had become so protective. His pack was my grandmother, my grandfather, myself,

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and Lady did He never accepted my dad never. It

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was like he when he would look at you, it

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was like he judged you and was constantly judging you

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if you were worthier. It was just I can't find

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the words to describe, but I thought he was different.

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My grandfather knew he was different, but he was such

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he was a joy to have. So Lady would sleep

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in bed with me. He would never and I know,

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you know, having dogs, it's a sign of dominance if

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you let your dog get in your bed with you.

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He would never try. He would sleep same spot, the

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foot of the bed, on the side, the bottom side

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of the bed at the foot. He would never jump

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on the furniture. And he would just take on like

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this when I slept, he would just watch. He was

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just on everything. His ears would twitch and and the

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uneasiness with my dad was, I mean, it was so strong.

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And he would threaten that he was going to harm Shadow.

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And my grandfather would say, that's gonna be the worst mistake.

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You make and he would get me in a frenzy

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and just he took pleasure in making me cry. My father, well,

475
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,839
my dad would he would get so mad and he

476
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,279
would he eventually he did kill Shadow. He shot him

477
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,200
so many times and he fired I. Oh god, my

478
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200
eyes are tear enough. I had just come back from

479
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,759
my mother's to take care of Shadow. I was taking

480
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:42,440
them with me, and he was laying in the yard

481
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:49,599
and he had all these arrows popping out of him.

482
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,119
And my dad he would say that at night, and

483
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,079
I didn't know if I could believe him or not,

484
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,559
because he was just so out there, like with this

485
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,359
satanic stuff. He sacrificed my cat. He did a lot

486
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,319
of horrible things. But I didn't know if I could

487
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,280
ever believe him. I just thought this guy, he is

488
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,239
completely off his rockier. But he said that Shadow would

489
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,280
stand up and he would watch him walk. He had

490
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,679
his friend, his friend Bobby would come over, my dad's friend,

491
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,920
and they would get high and do whatever they did.

492
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,960
And he said that he would stand straight up and

493
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:38,480
he would walk from So I had three doors total

494
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:42,800
in my bedroom and a window. One door led into

495
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,000
my grandmother's room. Another door let onto my porch. I

496
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:50,519
had a private porch, and then another door led into

497
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,679
the living room, and he would, he said, he would

498
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,760
see shadows, stand up and walk from the window in

499
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,599
the door at the living room all the way over

500
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,280
to the door and watch out the door when he

501
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,199
was outside I was sleeping. I thought, oh, yeah, he's

502
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,519
just so full of it. And at this time I

503
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:13,079
had completely forgotten about the dog man encounter I had

504
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,519
as a child. I was still a child, but much younger,

505
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,000
and that led that day when I was coming to

506
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,320
take Shadow with me. He was laying dead in the

507
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,639
yard and my dad said that he wouldn't die. He

508
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:36,639
just kept coming at him, and I cannot even tell

509
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:41,039
you what that did to me. He had gotten a

510
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:45,199
lot bigger too. I mean he at about that time

511
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:53,599
he was he was every bit as large as an

512
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,320
adult king shepherd, which king shepherds, they're a pretty decent

513
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,719
sized dog. And he wasn't finn Is growing. But he

514
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,599
was still on all fours though, at least in front

515
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,079
of me. He was he never I've never I've never

516
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,840
seen him stand up like that, but he just had

517
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:20,360
this presence about him, and I always felt so safe

518
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
with him. When i'd take him on the adventures, would

519
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,639
go in the woods, and he would love that. He

520
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,280
would never Lady was always with us, and he would

521
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,039
never stray too far. He would take the lead. And uh,

522
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,119
oh my gosh when he marked, Oh my gosh, Vick,

523
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,159
I told you about the marking outside. That was exactly

524
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:57,159
what shadows marking smelled like. Oh my gosh, oh wow. Okay,

525
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,480
So when about this time is when my grandparents passed

526
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,719
and I had taken it really hard. They were my world.

527
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,559
And my grandfather had passed first day of Spring in March,

528
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:19,920
and then a couple months later my grandmother went and

529
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,519
they'd been together for so long, and it just it

530
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:28,559
destroyed me. It was horrible. Mentally, I was worn down. Emotionally,

531
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,079
I was a mess, and I felt all alone. I

532
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:35,239
was at my mother's she was still in the townhouse

533
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,880
at this time, the townhouse that I had that first encounter.

534
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,280
And emotionally, physically I was just completely run down. And

535
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,199
I was sixteen. I was about sixteen at this time.

536
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:59,679
And there was this particular night I was feeling like

537
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,519
thuds at the bottom of my bed and then I

538
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,599
had they say so it was sleep paralysis. No, no, no, no, no,

539
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:13,559
it was not sleep paralysis. These attacks were happening, and

540
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:22,599
at one point I was awake. I was placing in school.

541
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:24,719
When I was in school, I was sneaking into the

542
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,559
teacher's lounge and printing Bible verses to tape around my

543
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:35,239
bed because I was so afraid this and I'd seen

544
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,320
it one night she had She was on her tiptoes

545
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,639
and I don't think she wasn't very tall, maybe four

546
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,199
four and a half foot tall, but her head was

547
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,760
down and her hair was warward and it was black,

548
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,800
and she was in all black and floating on her tiptoes.

549
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,400
She was coming from where the cemetery is and coming

550
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880
into the room. I had told my mom something is happening,

551
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:02,079
and this particular night, my mother was home and her

552
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:09,400
room was right across her mind. This thing hit the

553
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,760
bet and then was on top of me. And then

554
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,880
I could feel my body being lifted up into the air,

555
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,280
and I oh, I was crying. It released me when

556
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,679
I said in the name of Jesus, and I was.

557
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,360
I was praying and crying. So my mom was getting

558
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,199
up at this point because she could hear the commotion.

559
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,519
She said, when she watched me fall, my head just

560
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:36,480
missed the corner of the nights. Dad an inch and

561
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:40,079
she she kind of she took a step back. I

562
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:43,599
was in the air, and I said, I told you,

563
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:52,119
and I was calling. I called several Catholic churches. The

564
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:56,599
one priest I do not remember his name he told me.

565
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,800
He said, there's no evil in this world. You need

566
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,719
to seek a therapist. This is attacking me, this is

567
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,039
going on. I don't know what to do. And these

568
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:12,920
attacks went on for so long until I learned that

569
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,480
I had to physically get out in the name of

570
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:21,239
Jesus and then it would stop. And I had moved

571
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,920
after my grandparents died. I mean, things were really bad.

572
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:31,440
My dad was just horrible. I couldn't handle the abuse

573
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,119
that he had, so I decided, oh, write my friend's

574
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:40,559
family was going to Florida. I had dropped out of school.

575
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,079
I had my mother emancipate me, and once I got

576
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,320
to Florida, I enrolled in Osceola County. I had went

577
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,800
to high school there and finished my diploma. But while

578
00:40:52,840 --> 00:41:00,440
I was there, it had happened again that mass and

579
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960
I felt it go inside of me, and the laugh

580
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,119
that came out of me was not my laugh. I

581
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:11,119
cannot imitate it. I cannot duplicate that laugh. But it

582
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:15,400
had scared me so much to this day, I don't

583
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:18,519
look in a mirror because that morning, when I got

584
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,440
up and I looked in the mirror, I didn't see

585
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,159
myself looking back at me. I seen something else, and

586
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:29,280
it had scared me so much this day. Like I said,

587
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,360
I when I do my hair, if I do my makeup,

588
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,400
I'll glance, but I don't ever stare into a mirror

589
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,320
and look at myself. And all that had calmed down,

590
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,679
and I didn't have any dog man encounters for a

591
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:53,400
very long time after that after Shadow. I'm not saying

592
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:57,440
the Shadow was a dog man or a werewolf, but

593
00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:01,679
I am saying there was something very very different about him.

594
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:09,000
His size, his it was just the way I keep saying, judge, judging,

595
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,639
judging you, but looking through you. He just there was

596
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,800
something I don't know if it was even supernatural about him,

597
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,840
but he was not definitely was not a German shepherd.

598
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:28,199
He wasn't a king shepherd. And sometimes I would hear

599
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:34,320
my grandfather talking to him, and he would when I

600
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,719
walk in the room, he was just sitting there just

601
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,559
like he was following every conversation. My grandfather knew exactly

602
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:48,960
what he was saying. So all all of those encounters

603
00:42:49,280 --> 00:43:00,360
had stopped. From Florida, you know, I moved around the lot.

604
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,440
I wanted to see the world. I wanted to travel

605
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,599
and just see as much as I could. I lived

606
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,360
in Michigan for a while. I lived in Canyon, Texas.

607
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:14,920
That's where I opened up my Large and Small Animal

608
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:22,880
Reproductive Clinic. And I ended up moving back to Pennsylvania.

609
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:28,199
And that's that's where I'm at now. And everything had

610
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,559
been pretty quiet, you know, I read my Neapolitans and

611
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,920
so on, and now you know I have aries. But

612
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:48,840
where I'm at now that the encounter started again. And

613
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,639
there was I was driving with my friend and there

614
00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:01,519
was this gigantic mass but it was miss and it

615
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,159
had it was easily. It was not you know, a

616
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:09,719
common black bear. It was so big it would have

617
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,079
if you would have put like two polar bears together,

618
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:18,280
that would have been about the size of it. And

619
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,880
it was in the middle of the road and we

620
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,280
were driving. I knew I had my eyes weren't tired,

621
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,599
and it was dark and it was darker than the

622
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,800
darkness we were driving in and our headlights lit it

623
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:40,239
up in the gladiator and uh, really quiet. And I

624
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,199
looked over my friend and I said, all right, I

625
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,719
don't know, but I said, did you And just as

626
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,239
I said, did you see, he says that giant mist

627
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:59,320
on the road. I said yes. He said, okay, okay,

628
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,920
so I'm not go increased. I said no, no, I said,

629
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,679
where did it go? What was it? He said, I

630
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,719
don't know. Well, it was right across from where we

631
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,679
turn in at to go down to the house. And

632
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,079
that mist had popped up a couple more times. Now

633
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:23,639
on the property here we have there's three acres that's

634
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,440
fenced in, and then there's an opening of probably about

635
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,480
two acres that open up, and then it opens up

636
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:38,920
into a large field, and then our property starts up again.

637
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,760
And right at the end of our property it's more woods,

638
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,920
and then right across the road it's another single lane

639
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,599
road is the cemetery. And this property has we have

640
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,679
artesian wells underneath of the property. We have mine shafts,

641
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,880
an underground cave system. We have a lot going on here.

642
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,440
And I watch, you know, when I walk aris for

643
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,280
a couple of reasons, even in the fench yard, he

644
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,320
does not ever go outside without me, and he does

645
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,519
not ever go outside off leash, even in the fench yard.

646
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,360
And that's for a couple reasons. It's he's one hundred

647
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,960
and ninety eight pounds, is a very large dog, and

648
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:28,039
I don't think that four foot chainley fence, if he

649
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,400
gets really mad, is going to hold him. He's very

650
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,199
well trained and well behaved, but he is still a

651
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,559
dog and that has to be taken into consideration. We

652
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:41,920
don't have many neighbors either, but I just feel that

653
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,360
if I can prevent a bad situation from happening I'm

654
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,440
going to take that extra measure. Now. It really stinks

655
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,000
sometimes in the winter in the rain, but I just

656
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:57,320
I feel it's this. It gives me a piece of

657
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:04,280
mind knowing that he's okay and well. And also the

658
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,440
mind shafts have caved in. There's been a vehicle that's

659
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,000
gone twenty five to fifty feet down, a person has

660
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:19,280
gone down in the mine, so it gets filled in

661
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
every so often. The gravel comes in and win to

662
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:30,760
fill everything in with the excavators and stuff, and the

663
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,400
encounters started again. So it's probably been going on for

664
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,360
almost two years since they started. And then it's like

665
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,840
they'll take a break and then start back up again.

666
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,719
But this the first night something had happened and I

667
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,280
didn't get any you know, like no bad juju. When

668
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,119
you're out side, you just you know. It was just

669
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:06,719
like okay, no big deal. I was walking areas and

670
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,880
we were up top and that's where there's no fence.

671
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,440
It goes into the big field. We have a little

672
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:21,960
stone thing built and it's just a whole bunch of

673
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,559
stones stacked up. If we want to start a project

674
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,440
we have we know where to go get the stones

675
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,599
and then directly across from it there and I believe

676
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:38,719
I sent you the pictures Vic where the concrete was

677
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:47,280
stacked there was. I was standing right there and this

678
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,239
mass started standing up and instinctively. This was in October

679
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,199
when this happened. I said, we have a couple of neighbors,

680
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,639
like I said, and I thought it was him at first,

681
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,199
I said, Johnny, I said, what are you doing? You

682
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,119
can't hunt here, this is car property. You're nuts. It

683
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:14,039
got bigger. Johnny's like maybe one hundred and thirty forty pounds.

684
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:19,000
It's really small man, very dainty. This thing gets bigger

685
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:24,039
than what Johnny is and I'm like, oh my gosh,

686
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,599
and it keeps getting taller, and it was silent, and

687
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,039
to me it looked like a gilly suit. But my

688
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:34,800
eyes I couldn't focus. It was like it was distorted,

689
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,960
and I couldn't focus on what I was seeing and

690
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:42,320
what was going on. Aries at this point had stepped

691
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:48,400
between myself and what was rising. This thing got over

692
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:53,239
six foot tall, and if it would have reached its

693
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,280
hand out and I had mine, we could have went

694
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,880
fingertip to fingertip. And that was how close we were.

695
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,920
But I could not tell you what I was looking

696
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,480
at other than I thought it was a gilly suit.

697
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:07,000
But it was not a gilly suit. It was distorted.

698
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:11,559
And as it rose up, it rose back down in

699
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:16,119
the same way. And it was October, like I said,

700
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:18,880
so the leaves have fallen there, crunchy. It was not

701
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:24,599
a sound, not a sound at all. Oh my gosh.

702
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:30,239
Finally Aries was growling. And when he lets out his

703
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,039
guttural grow I mean, you can fill it. It was

704
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:37,760
just shadows was more intense when he finally let out

705
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,679
his groul. When he would grow out, my dad, it

706
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,880
was like a mastiff, but it was you really could

707
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,159
feel it now. Oh my gosh, I forgot that there

708
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,119
was this electric jowel that went right through me. And

709
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:57,000
I know ARIES had to have felt it because he

710
00:50:57,039 --> 00:51:00,320
had piped down. Really, he just quieted and just stood there,

711
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,960
and it was like a joke of electricity. And I

712
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,559
don't know if it was in for sound, but my

713
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,239
ears started ringing, like a high pitched ring. And then

714
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:19,519
as it disappeared, everything was okay, and we finally I

715
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:24,599
got him down into the house. I could not. We

716
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:28,000
put up motion lights on all corners of the house.

717
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,480
And when it gets dark, hair, it gets dark. We

718
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:34,519
have no street lights, like I said, population of three

719
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:39,800
hundred people, so and everybody's spread out. We'd put up

720
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:48,679
the motion lights. We'd put up just I believe they

721
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,079
were all motion lights. The UH door cam came a

722
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:59,760
little later, and I was like, wow, And you know,

723
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,360
we we are very We have our consil carry license.

724
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,840
When I'm feeling well, I like to participate in three

725
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,679
gun competition. We do a lot of shooting. We know

726
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:18,760
our firearms. And I thought, well, I guess I didn't

727
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,920
know what to do. I didn't know if I should

728
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,719
keep something on me my little carry. I said, oh, goodness,

729
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,000
this isn't going to do anything. So I figured out right,

730
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,639
I'll just keep my bear mace on me, and I'm like,

731
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,719
I don't know if that's even going to do anything.

732
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:37,239
So I don't know how many there was. I don't

733
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,679
know if they were spaceships, if they were drones, but

734
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,559
there were. I have them on video, these lights that

735
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,119
were in the sky, and I say they were following me,

736
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,719
but they were going in every direction. I went, so

737
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,920
to me that was following me. That's when all the

738
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:00,880
encounters came. I had been out in the yard with Aries.

739
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,960
This might have been it was within like two days

740
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:13,400
max of seeing that mass appear and Black Hawk. There

741
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,960
was a black helicopter. Our property is big and open.

742
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:21,960
You can most certainly land several helicopters in our hard

743
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,079
and I had been walking Aries. We were in the

744
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:33,079
upper again and it was daylight, and the helicopter came

745
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:39,039
down below the tree line. I thought this is weird

746
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,719
and instinct when I looked up and I could see

747
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,360
the guy was sitting. He had his legs out and

748
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:49,519
over and he had his rifle. It was an ar

749
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:53,000
style platform. I could see that clearly because they had

750
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:56,480
turned and when they turned the helicopter was like you

751
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:59,719
know when they turn on their side to turn. It

752
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,880
was on an angle and I said, oh my god.

753
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:08,360
I instinctively threw myself in front of my dog, thinking

754
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,239
they were going to shoot aries. And then when I

755
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,199
got in the house, they had left. And when I

756
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,320
had gotten the house, I thought, oh my god, did

757
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,719
they think he was the entity? Did they think he

758
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:26,920
was what was in the yard that we have a

759
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,920
lot of deer, And I know I've sent you the

760
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,079
photos of the deer in the yard. We you know,

761
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,039
on that particular night, I didn't catch all twenty three

762
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,280
of them together, but there's twenty three of them that

763
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,079
come and hang out in the backyard. I don't know.

764
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,800
I give him apples from time to time, but there's

765
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,320
a lot, a large amount of deer here. And the

766
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,360
deer had been standing, and this was about seven o'clock

767
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,000
at night after I had this encounter in the helicopter

768
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:04,199
had been standing between our outbuildings, underneath the pine trees.

769
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,760
They were head to butt, head to butt head the

770
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,079
butt head the butt And I know deer do scream.

771
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,519
A lot of people don't know that, but they do

772
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:21,440
vocalize and I just thought, WHOA, this is weird. They're

773
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,440
just all sta every one of them had the butt

774
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,760
and you can tell that they were something had triggered

775
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,000
them the fear. Well. I had got to my bedroom

776
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:36,119
window outside with Aries. We were taking our final outing,

777
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:43,719
and this scream had hat it was. It was like

778
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:51,760
a scream how and the deers. I urinated myself because

779
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,880
it had scared me so bad. And it wasn't the

780
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,039
deer screaming. It was something up in the trees, and

781
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,599
I thought, well, we do have mountainlins. It could have

782
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,159
been a mountain lion. It could have been, but they

783
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,760
would have stood there like that, and they came towards us.

784
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,679
Aries was just going ballistic. I held him with everything

785
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,800
I could, and I have complete control of my dogs complete.

786
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,360
I had dropped the leash all together, and when I

787
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,360
realized that I had grabbed it and he was kind

788
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,199
of dragging me through the yard, I was on the

789
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:34,320
ground and our other dog, our little dog, he's a

790
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,519
Feegel Retriever mix. He was going ballistic. Inside he could

791
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:46,320
hear everything. And I still don't know what it was. Well,

792
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,480
a few nights, I don't know if it was a

793
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:55,599
few nights or maybe a month later, there was a

794
00:56:56,519 --> 00:57:00,320
very large await the lights. Let me get back to

795
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,800
the lights. So the light pattern in the sky. There

796
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,840
was this one light and then there was like three

797
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,360
more two or three, I want to say three that

798
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,280
branched off from it and went in all different ways

799
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,239
and then came back into one. And this was going

800
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,480
on for a while. I would record it, and it

801
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,639
was it was. It was really interesting because I've I

802
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,480
seen a few things. When I lived in Canyon, Texas.

803
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:38,800
My property was great against the canyon, so it was

804
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:45,079
like complete openness and then Canyon and I've dealt with

805
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,920
coyotes everywhere I've been. And when somebody, you know, somebody's

806
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,519
not familiar with coyotes, the easiest thing I can tell

807
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,480
somebody is if there's a large pack and they're all going,

808
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,400
sounds like a Stephen King movie in the making, definitely.

809
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:08,199
And we had started the coyotes were I had never

810
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:14,760
seen or encountered a pack of coyotes that was so

811
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,039
there was so many of them, and they were getting bolder.

812
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:22,360
And in the lower I called the lower forty eight,

813
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,079
that's the three acres fenced in I called the Lower

814
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:32,000
forty eight. They were this particular night had become very

815
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,760
bold and our little retriever was out front and one

816
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,719
of the coyotes had hit the fence, the four fence,

817
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:45,360
the four four foot chain link fence, and from both

818
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,280
sides of the house, now this is all fenced again,

819
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,599
both sides of the house emerged more coyotes. They had

820
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,920
flanked us in the house. They were that smart. In

821
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,360
one of the coyotes, which I I'm they breed with

822
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,599
domestic dogs, so it's it's extremely possible, and they can

823
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:12,840
breed with a wolf. But it was jet black, and

824
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,679
I thought, wow, it was really pretty. But they were

825
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,719
really bulled. So run in and my friends yelling, grab

826
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,639
the guns, grab the guns, and I go to the

827
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:28,000
gun safe and I am I am packing in my

828
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:31,280
yoga pants. I had a couple of pockets, I am pocket.

829
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,639
I am just stuffing guns in that pocket. That pocket.

830
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,960
I'm putting guns in my arms and I'm waddling. I

831
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,760
can't hold anymore. And I'm like, oh, we're going to war.

832
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,320
I can't even imagine what's going on. And uh, I

833
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,679
didn't know it was. The coyotes were that bad. And

834
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,599
I come outside and I started handling the guns. None

835
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:59,559
of them were loaded, none of them had magazines. I

836
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:03,039
ran back and I grabbed the forty five. Forty five

837
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:07,320
was loaded, so the fires off a warning shot and

838
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,119
like the whole area it was it was like a

839
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:14,480
cannon went off and it was just this loud cup

840
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:20,679
boot and they had scattered a couple of nights after that. Okay,

841
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,880
so there is nothing where the Appalation Trail were right

842
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,559
in the Appalachian Trail, and there is it's just woods,

843
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,920
wilderness and woods. Now they're starting to, you know, there's

844
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,119
a lot of fracking going on in our area now

845
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:43,679
and they're they're mining for they're taking the stone quarries.

846
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:47,480
The tops of our mountains are starting to disappear, and

847
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:51,519
they're they're bombing and making all these new roundabouts and

848
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:54,840
trying to make it more modern than the three hundred

849
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,400
people around here need. And from the woods. So sitting

850
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,639
out on the porch which is facing south there, I

851
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:09,039
can hear the coyotes coming again and then there is

852
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:19,920
this high pitch scream. How but it I don't know

853
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,559
if it was a mile off, it could have been

854
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,679
closer because at night, you know, and that's another thing

855
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:31,159
people don't take into consideration, something far off in a distance.

856
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,960
Sometimes you know, things appear to be bigger than what

857
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:39,000
they are. Same with the sound. Sound bounces, So I'm

858
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:42,039
not exactly too sure how far this was, but it

859
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:46,480
was out in the woods up above, and I could

860
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:52,880
feel it was like that thing that had led off

861
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,760
that like that that jolt of electricity that I had

862
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,639
encountered up in the top yard. That's what it was like.

863
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:10,039
But this thing had the deepest grow how I was like,

864
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:14,119
oh my gosh. So I've worked with a lot of

865
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:17,800
animals at the VAT Clinic as well. My business partner

866
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,159
was a veterinarian. I did the reproduction, so we would

867
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:26,400
see people would bring in wolves. She was the she's

868
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,079
retired now, but she was the veterinarian for the wildlife

869
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:34,039
rehab center, so we would see a lot of things.

870
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,280
I was able to get my hands on a lot

871
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,760
of animals, and that was a blessing in its own

872
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:47,119
But this thing, when it you just knew, you knew

873
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:49,960
it was not a dog, it was not a wolf,

874
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:57,280
it was not a coyote. It was so loud, and

875
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,840
I felt that jolt of electricity go through me, and

876
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,159
I thought, oh my, the coyotes have not been back

877
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:14,840
to our property, have not, So I've had another pretty

878
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:21,320
significant encounter other than seeing that thing that I thought

879
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,480
was a gilly suit. I keep going back to a

880
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:27,760
gilly suit, but it was so distorted. But I still

881
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,039
can't wrap my mind around what I was looking at

882
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:38,559
because of the distortion there was. So when you come

883
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:43,239
out on our porch, if you go directly to the right,

884
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:47,719
the woods are right there. Again, the woods are everywhere,

885
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:54,239
that's but we keep the to the woodline. We like

886
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,400
to keep the grass down. So just because that night

887
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,400
when those coyotes attacked, that was really bold. Had the

888
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,920
weeds had been tall or grown, I don't think I

889
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,800
think it would have been a different outcome for sure.

890
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,880
But I know that that number of how many coyotes

891
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,280
was there, they I think easily they typically, you know,

892
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:23,039
things leave aries alone because he's so big and massive.

893
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,239
But there was so many in that pack. I honestly

894
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,760
think they would have attacked us. I honestly feel that

895
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,159
because their number was just used to like five to

896
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:37,880
seven coyotes in a pack. There was so many of them,

897
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,599
so many, and uh, like I said, So the next

898
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:48,519
encounter happens and i'm outside, I like to I like

899
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:52,320
to sit on the porch we have and I didn't

900
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,400
know this until you know, Like I sit on the

901
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,400
porch in the evenings. We have a fisher cat, which

902
01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:01,320
if any of you know what a fish your cat as,

903
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:06,840
they are just they're like I guess they're like a

904
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,599
downed version. They're they're like a they look like a

905
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:14,960
giant ferret, but they're like a wolverine in Tasmanian double

906
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,119
in one and they are just so neat, but they

907
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:22,920
growl and they're vicious. And there's one living underneath one

908
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,159
of our outbuildings and he travels down because we have

909
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:28,480
a we have natural water, like I said, we have

910
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,320
a creek, and then we have the artesian wells, and

911
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,760
he travels down and then he'll come up. And one

912
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,239
night he came charging behind areas in myself he had

913
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,920
I'm pretty sure it was a smaller bunny, but he

914
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:46,239
just like he charged right behind us and he was

915
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,199
able to get over the chain link fence with ease.

916
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:51,480
And I said, good lord, what was that? I realized

917
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:54,039
it was the fisher cat. And I've taken a couple

918
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,039
of pictures of him, and I like to sit and

919
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:04,519
I listen. I listened to my surroundings. And if many

920
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:07,159
of you out there, I know a lot of people,

921
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:11,239
you're out in the woods, and you understand the message.

922
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,880
Sometimes sometimes the wilderness has a message. Sometimes I just

923
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,000
I listen and I want to get a good fill

924
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:25,159
for it. And I was sitting on the porch again

925
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:29,320
this night, and I felt the air was charged, and

926
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,519
I felt something staring. I felt something watching. And I

927
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,880
had looked over to the right of me where the

928
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:44,599
tree line is, and standing there it was. It was

929
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:48,760
probably about six and a half seven foot tall. Was

930
01:06:50,199 --> 01:06:54,559
now let me also say this, the dog men I

931
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:59,519
have encountered have I would compare them, the closest being

932
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:07,079
a timber, definitely. He just looked like the big one

933
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,920
I had seen. But this one he was light in color.

934
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,000
He had browns and grays and reds in him, but

935
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:21,039
he was still light. And it was standing there just

936
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:29,599
watching me. It wasn't aggressive, it wasn't It was just

937
01:07:29,719 --> 01:07:39,119
leaning against the tree and it was so I was

938
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:44,159
just I'm not gonna say compelled, because I wasn't compelled,

939
01:07:44,159 --> 01:07:47,639
but I was just like all the memories came flooding

940
01:07:47,639 --> 01:07:49,920
back from my childhood. I said, oh my god, am

941
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,440
I seeing this? Am I seeing what I'm really seeing?

942
01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:59,719
And then this this guy was big, It was very big.

943
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,760
A bigger black one steps out, the bigger black one.

944
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:14,800
Oh my gosh. He You could feel the hatred, you

945
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:21,800
could feel the malice. You could feel he did not

946
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:28,560
like me, He did not like people. And I could

947
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,239
feel this. But the it was like the little he

948
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,960
wasn't little. He was big, but he was smaller than

949
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,439
the black one he was. I don't know if he

950
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,479
was calling the shots, but in my head it was

951
01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:50,239
like for a moment it could communicate and I couldn't.

952
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:54,159
It was either trying to say and I think it

953
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:59,640
was verbal, but it was ken or kindred or kindle war,

954
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,640
I don't know, kill or something. It was something along

955
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,119
the line if it was kindred or kinner, something recognition

956
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:11,079
or bridge. I'd had a dream about it the other night.

957
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:17,439
So that happened. Everything went quiet. So I had reached

958
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:22,319
out and Vic and I got in contact, and I

959
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,960
had told him the story, and then it was about,

960
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,399
you know, we close our blinds. My grandfather had me

961
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,239
do that from the time I was young. He just said,

962
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:38,039
you don't invite things to look in. So it's always

963
01:09:38,079 --> 01:09:42,319
been instilled in me to close our blinds. It was

964
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:46,720
on the fourteenth or fifteenth I had not closed the blinds.

965
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,960
I'd forgotten to or in the curtains. It was two

966
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,880
forty seven about that time in the morning, I had

967
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,079
awakened and I, it's that feeling, you know something is

968
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:04,439
watching you. And I woke and I looked to my window.

969
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:13,560
There was two red eyes staring at and it stepped

970
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,920
back but started to dematerialize and do it missed and

971
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,600
then it was gone. So that night I had had

972
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,880
I was nervous. I was like, oh no, it's starting

973
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,359
back up again. But I knew. I knew for a

974
01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:32,319
fact what I just looked at was looking at me

975
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,840
long before I knew it was there. And in my

976
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:42,600
dream I was I thought I was being chased by

977
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,279
a dog man or a werewolf, and I was in

978
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:47,800
the town. Our count is so small, and I was

979
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,319
in the town. And as I came down to when

980
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:54,600
I was running, I realized that I was looking through

981
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,720
its eyes. I was seeing things that it's seen, and

982
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,119
I thought I was being chased, but I wasn't, and

983
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:12,680
it was communicating something about a bridge or a bridge

984
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:24,800
and it and I'm trying to put into words and

985
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,439
it's so hard to find the words. But it was

986
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,039
the during that dream, the visions, everything was so distorted.

987
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,319
And that was, like I said, after I'd went back

988
01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:44,640
to sleep from seeing it standing there, and it was

989
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:52,239
the helicopters have come back, the black Hawk helicopters, and

990
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:56,640
they've been hovering over the house. I was on the

991
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,479
phone with Vic, and Vic was able to hear it

992
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,279
was just they for the past the past week, they've

993
01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:07,920
been hovering over our house twenty thirty seconds making themselves

994
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:16,520
visible again. And I had walked out. It was uh Friday, Friday.

995
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,119
I had walked out and on the house. And this

996
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:24,359
is where I say about the reference of shadow. It

997
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,119
just clicked today that shadows you're and when he would

998
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:33,880
mark was the same. The house was marked at the

999
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:36,520
corner of our when you come up of our porch,

1000
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,119
right there at the house was marked heavily and urine

1001
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:49,680
in my car and the smell was like shadows marking.

1002
01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:57,399
It had like this. Males have very distinct marking glands

1003
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:03,319
in a lot of species. And it smelled sweet, almost

1004
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:08,439
like kidney failure. But there was a sulfur smell to it,

1005
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:13,640
and it was so pungent. And you know, over the

1006
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,840
last summer, I was sprayed by a skunk and that

1007
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,479
that sucker got me pretty good. He got me face on,

1008
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,800
and I'm using that as a reference to this now.

1009
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,800
It made me sick and I thought, oh my gosh,

1010
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,199
I thought my eyes were going to fall out of

1011
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,720
my head. It was just horrible. But in comparison to

1012
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:40,359
what was left on the house, the urine was way worse.

1013
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:44,680
It made me vomit like you could. I know, of course,

1014
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,479
getting spread by skunk you literally can taste that, but

1015
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:52,000
you could taste what had done this, and it might

1016
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,399
so aries is he doesn't back down. He's six now,

1017
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,319
he's getting up there. He's my old man, but he

1018
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:05,760
is not you know, he's everything a home guardian should be.

1019
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:10,199
He is loyal, he is protective, he is fearless. But

1020
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,560
we both have that same mentalit mentality if something's coming,

1021
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,439
we're both going down together, so he doesn't have a

1022
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,920
lot of fear. He walked out and immediately he went

1023
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:31,359
away from it. He wouldn't remark it. He wouldn't go

1024
01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:34,319
near my car where it was marked. And he's an

1025
01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:39,600
intact dog and a mal it took. So I was

1026
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,720
trying and trying to get everything, get rid of the smell.

1027
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,359
I had poured bleach, I had poured. I put some

1028
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:57,520
odo band. I had tried that nature's urine cure. Nothing lime, nothing,

1029
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:05,359
So I uh. Before I started, I guess a dangerous

1030
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,439
gas build up or explosion or something. With my luck,

1031
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:12,039
I decided to resort. We have a lot of snow,

1032
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,880
had about twelve inches of snow. I started packing snow

1033
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,239
on the top because I wasn't too sure what to do.

1034
01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:29,800
But something again has come and marked us, and I've

1035
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,920
had offerings on the porch. Oh goodness. So I have

1036
01:15:35,119 --> 01:15:38,119
I document everything. I try to take as much pictures

1037
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:42,119
as I can when I can. But I've had it's

1038
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:47,800
a it's in grass. It's a little deer hoof in

1039
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,840
the grass for me, you know, just I don't know

1040
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:55,439
how or where it came from, but it's a little

1041
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,520
deerhoof in grass. I've had that placed at the door.

1042
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:05,640
I have had stones stacked up at my door. I

1043
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:16,439
have had dead animals placed. The one animal in particular,

1044
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:22,760
I had it was dead and placed pitched it into

1045
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,880
the woods. The next morning, it was on my roof,

1046
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,920
and uh, I was like, okay, I've I took a

1047
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,560
picture a couple I believe a day or two ago.

1048
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:44,279
There's there was blood on my porch and on my

1049
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,680
lawnchair where I sit in front of the door, about

1050
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,640
the size of my hand, and it was fresh blood.

1051
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:57,439
And I didn't know what to do. So I was thinking, Okay, well,

1052
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,399
I have some Native American and this this is probably

1053
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:04,520
share ignorance because I don't know. I'm taking this day

1054
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,600
by day and I don't know if I'm doing it

1055
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,720
right or what I'm like. I said, day by day.

1056
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:13,840
I've gone to the butcher a couple of times, and

1057
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:19,520
I just recently did it when this happened, and hearts

1058
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,680
and liver. I loaded up on that. It took me

1059
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,479
two trips. But I don't know if I was doing

1060
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,039
an offering or if I was doing it as respect

1061
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:36,039
and in Native I had communicated with my hands. I

1062
01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:38,680
had my palms up and I said I bring peace,

1063
01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:42,319
I want peace. I don't know if it was there,

1064
01:17:42,359 --> 01:17:46,479
if it heard me, I don't know. And I honestly

1065
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,520
think because we have all these caves and underground minds

1066
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:55,279
and these shafts on our property. I believe that that's

1067
01:17:55,319 --> 01:17:58,920
where they're popping in and out of. I believe that

1068
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,960
they're under us. And I think with all this racking

1069
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,720
and the bombing going on, with the you know, every

1070
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,720
everywhere being built up, and I think it's awakening them,

1071
01:18:11,079 --> 01:18:13,359
you know, in our Like I said, the deer here

1072
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:22,920
is so plentiful, and I gosh, just I don't want

1073
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,359
to start something, but I just wanted to know that

1074
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:30,640
I asked it. I said, please do not harm my dogs.

1075
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,399
We have put no trespassing and no hunting signs on

1076
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,920
the property, so if it hunts here, you know, our property,

1077
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,760
generally speaking, nobody's permitted to hunt on it, and we

1078
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:54,880
don't even hunt property, and that kind of that. That

1079
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,079
brings me pretty much up to pace with what's been

1080
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:04,319
going on. I don't have all the answers. I am

1081
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:08,000
just taking this day by day, but I think that

1082
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:10,640
some point in time, I don't know if it again,

1083
01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:14,479
I don't know if this is generational, a generational curse

1084
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,479
from my dad dabbling and becoming a warlock in all

1085
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,279
the black magic and them being summons. I don't know

1086
01:19:23,279 --> 01:19:28,880
if I was marked. I don't know if for but

1087
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:33,920
for whatever reason. I am very in tuned with what's

1088
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:39,359
going on around me, and they're so many times, you know,

1089
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,560
the wild life they come and I don't know if

1090
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,840
it's the me being an impact. I don't know if

1091
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,880
it's my aura, but they come to me for help.

1092
01:19:52,039 --> 01:19:57,680
I've taken care of a buck, an adult buck. It

1093
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:03,239
had a bad leg. He came to me. The hummingbirds,

1094
01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:06,800
which is so funny. They landed my hair in the summer.

1095
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,720
You know. Right now, there's a little family of foxes

1096
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:15,119
that come and hang out from time to time. And

1097
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:18,439
right now I have a feral cat that just showed

1098
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:24,399
up and in the past two months, it's been about

1099
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:28,119
two months each jumping in my lap. So the skunk,

1100
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:32,319
the skunk that sprayed me, we are now buddies. And

1101
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,319
his name is the not Kitty because he's sure. He

1102
01:20:37,399 --> 01:20:39,720
has some different markings and he looks like a black cat.

1103
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:44,520
He doesn't have the traditional stripe down him. So his

1104
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,560
name is the not Kiddy, and we have you know,

1105
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:54,000
there's a lot of wildlife here in the raccoons. Oh goodness.

1106
01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:57,720
I started off feeding one and I think he told

1107
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,960
a friend, just like the deer, and they told her

1108
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:04,279
friend and now I have like a whole colony, so

1109
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,199
wildlife has and they've always been drawn to me since

1110
01:21:07,239 --> 01:21:12,520
I was a child. There I have never and I've

1111
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,640
worked with a lot of animals. The only time I'd

1112
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,319
ever been injured was working on a horse. He had

1113
01:21:19,359 --> 01:21:24,159
a water belly, and I knew protocol. We wrote the protocol.

1114
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,039
Nobody was supposed to go in until other people were there.

1115
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,560
I thought I'd get him comfortable and maybe start an

1116
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,840
IV line. He had kicked me and I hit against

1117
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,359
the uh, the gate, and it dislocated my hip and

1118
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,680
split my head open. And it wasn't his fault, and

1119
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,239
that was my ignorance, and that was me trying to

1120
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:47,560
help him because I knew he was so uncomfortable and

1121
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,720
so much pain. But in reality I just made everything

1122
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,640
so much worse. But I've never been bit. I have never,

1123
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,159
you know, I don't know if I should knock on

1124
01:21:58,239 --> 01:22:04,239
wood and attacked animals. They they just they come to me.

1125
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:07,920
And it's just so weird. I've had a cardinal land

1126
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,119
on me out of nowhere, I've had, you know, we

1127
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,640
are The farmhouse was old, the farmhouse that we my

1128
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,720
grandparents had to move into after I burnt down their

1129
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:22,920
house playing Cowboys and Indians. But up in the attic

1130
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:27,760
there was a little hole and somehow the owls had

1131
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,560
made it in their little screech owls. And I remember

1132
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,800
my grandmother had this old singer sewing machine and I

1133
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,439
would play Princess Aurora. Upstairs. I poked my finger and

1134
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,039
I'd taken nap, but I had moved it this day,

1135
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,279
and then I stuck. I think there was a desk

1136
01:22:47,359 --> 01:22:54,920
in something else. I managed to rig this stairway to

1137
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,840
the roof and I reached up and I pulled two

1138
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,159
little outlets out, and I'm like, oh, They're gonna be

1139
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:04,439
my best friends. And my grandfather, I mean, he just

1140
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,560
knew everything I was getting into. He hollered up those

1141
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,479
stairs and he said, April, you better leave those birds alone.

1142
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,079
Oh I am. So I wait for everything to get quiet,

1143
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:19,920
and I run down these stairs. I have the little

1144
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,800
outlets in my shirt, and I'm like, they're never going

1145
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,720
to know. So I'm like, I have to make this

1146
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,359
look real. I go out the room and I go

1147
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,880
down the stairs on the porch and I hollered for

1148
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,119
my Grandpap. I'm like Pap. I'm like, Papy, come here,

1149
01:23:35,079 --> 01:23:36,960
I'm like, look when I found it, I'm holding these

1150
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:42,880
little outlets up. Oh my gosh. But yeah, so that's

1151
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,199
just been I'm sure they wouldn't have come to me

1152
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:51,199
on their own, but it's I've always as a child,

1153
01:23:51,319 --> 01:23:54,359
I felt at home in the woods. Now since these

1154
01:23:54,479 --> 01:24:00,439
encounters have recently happened, Oh, I am in fear. That

1155
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,079
black one put the fear of I know a lot

1156
01:24:05,079 --> 01:24:07,399
of people say the fear of God, but I don't

1157
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,279
like saying that. I feel like that's in vain. But

1158
01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:16,119
it scared me. It scared me a lot. And uh,

1159
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:20,560
the fear I have is a it's more respect. And

1160
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,039
I know that these creatures are there. I know that

1161
01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:32,840
they're definitely apex, but I don't the gray one, I

1162
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,119
know it would have. It didn't seem like it wanted

1163
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:37,960
to hurt. It wanted to communicate with that black one.

1164
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,720
And I tell you what, I guarantee that suckers put

1165
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,680
some people on the four one one. I just that's

1166
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,600
the only way I can describe it. But I don't.

1167
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,640
And I love the woods. I loved hiking the waterfalls,

1168
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,880
and I would say grounding, but I'd go sit there.

1169
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,640
You can feel the energy from the waterfalls, and I

1170
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,640
guess these creatures they go there too for this reason.

1171
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,560
But sometimes when I would need to recharge, I would

1172
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,319
just go sit on the ground by the waterfall just

1173
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:16,439
he talks and recharge. But now knowing and seeing this,

1174
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:26,960
I have a fear, yes, but I respect them and

1175
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,760
if they want that to be their territory, so be it.

1176
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:38,319
I will never go camping or hiking again. Never go

1177
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:43,239
camping for sure, because I know what's out there, and

1178
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,079
at this point they're leaving me alone, so I feel

1179
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,600
I can give it the respect and leave it alone.

1180
01:25:52,119 --> 01:25:59,840
But you know, we have definitely upped our firepower in case,

1181
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:02,880
you know, something would happen, and it's not like you

1182
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:08,479
can exactly go out and you know they're at the beginning.

1183
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,520
When I had said about the attack where I used

1184
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:17,840
to ride my horses, this had just happened, and it

1185
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,359
is right on. Well, my grandparents had passed, so it's

1186
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:24,600
my uncle as the property. Now. They were just fly fishing,

1187
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,920
and I believe I'm not one hundred percent it wouldn't

1188
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:35,960
we drove by. I mean, okay, we see the dcn R,

1189
01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:41,079
we see the park rangers. These guys were heavily vested heavily.

1190
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:45,159
They all black tactical gear. I said, oh my goodness,

1191
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:50,000
and the black as uvs were there. So there there

1192
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:51,880
was a lot and there was a lot of taping.

1193
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,840
They taped off, and I believe it was the It

1194
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,880
was definitely the attack. I don't know if it was

1195
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,439
a big foot or if it was a dog man,

1196
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,840
but it was on six fishers right off of the property,

1197
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,039
so I know even when I was a child. They

1198
01:27:07,119 --> 01:27:11,880
obviously they have been around, but I haven't been harmed,

1199
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,760
and I don't know why, but I don't want to.

1200
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,560
You know, I have this saying, you don't knock at

1201
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,319
the devil's door because you you might not like what

1202
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:25,359
you what opens that door. So I guess I'm playing safer.

1203
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,079
You know. I had asked, you know, if this is

1204
01:27:29,079 --> 01:27:32,159
a good idea, because things that are left on my doorstep.

1205
01:27:33,319 --> 01:27:39,119
I didn't know if delivering the the liver in the hearts.

1206
01:27:40,319 --> 01:27:42,760
I felt like that was what I was supposed to do,

1207
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,680
and I've done it a few times, but it was

1208
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,039
brought to my attention that they may and it was

1209
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:53,640
all sporadic. I didn't like to do it, say, you know,

1210
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,279
on this second night of the full moon. I didn't

1211
01:27:56,279 --> 01:27:58,119
do it like that. It was just all sporadic when

1212
01:27:58,119 --> 01:28:04,800
this happened months in between, because I was I was

1213
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,159
just feeling I was doing what I think felt right,

1214
01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:12,760
letting it know that I'm aware and I respect it

1215
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,880
and I understand. But I also, you know, when it

1216
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,079
was brought to my attention, don't want it to think that, Okay,

1217
01:28:20,079 --> 01:28:26,560
this is what this is our arrangement. So I I

1218
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,319
just I try to keep a balance, and if it's

1219
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:37,399
not harming us, I feel like then we should just

1220
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,359
mind our own business. And obviously it's it's right there.

1221
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,920
I mean, it'd be like we we even do have

1222
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,600
bears on our property. And some of you may say, okay,

1223
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,800
well that that was just their No, no, no, I

1224
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,520
I know bears and I know wolves, and I know

1225
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:01,239
what I seen was neither of them. But like I said,

1226
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,760
and the looks it had more of the head of

1227
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:13,279
a timberwolf. And it's uh, the last one that stood up,

1228
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,239
the one, like I said, I'm pretty sure that very

1229
01:29:16,279 --> 01:29:20,079
first one I encountered the pointed he had a loincloth

1230
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:24,239
on and I want to say a vest, but these

1231
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:30,359
other two did not. And it's abdomen the gray one.

1232
01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:32,399
I couldn't really tell with the black because it was

1233
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,399
it was dark outside. But you could see on both

1234
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,800
of these creatures. You could see the straations of their muscles,

1235
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,760
but I couldn't see, like you know, when some people

1236
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:50,640
say that it had a six pack, I couldn't it.

1237
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,880
To me, it the anatomy was all wrong to be

1238
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:59,359
a person. First of all, it had a slightly tapered waist,

1239
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:07,680
and it's hawks, you know, that stood out, And when

1240
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:15,399
we were staring at each other, I don't remember going

1241
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,439
back in the house or them them disappearing back into

1242
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:23,640
the woods. I don't remember that, which was you know,

1243
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,720
that was really weird, and I'm just I have all

1244
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,039
these flashes coming in and it's like, I don't know.

1245
01:30:31,159 --> 01:30:35,520
I guess my way of handling PTSD is I forget

1246
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:39,279
about everything that happened and pretend it never happened, and

1247
01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:41,359
then you know, a little trigger will come along and

1248
01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:43,880
I'm like, oh my gosh. Like with the urine on

1249
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:50,199
the house and on the car, that was just like shadows.

1250
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:58,840
It had like that sweet decaying smell. So that being said,

1251
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,520
you know, I'm pretty current, and yeah, that's about it.

1252
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,640
That's where I stand with everything going on, and thank

1253
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,399
you for listening to my story.

1254
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: April. You sure have been through it. You've had your

1255
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:18,399
fair share of amazing experiences there. You really have. We're

1256
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,600
out of time for the show tonight, but would be

1257
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,399
interested in coming back to do a Q and A

1258
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,000
because I've got a lawndry list of questions for you.

1259
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I would love to Vic. I'd be very honored

1260
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,680
to great.

1261
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,199
Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for coming back to do that.

1262
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:34,520
I really appreciate it.

1263
01:31:35,279 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me well, thanks so.

1264
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Much for coming on. We really do appreciate your time,

1265
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:50,800
and have a great night.

1266
01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:05,199
Speaker 1: The Famish