Speaker 1: We're all owned by the Syndicate, Body and Soul or
should I just say Bunny?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Filthy movie Lovers, Something Weirdos and Anti Criterion Bros To
the forty fourth episode of The Sin Syndicate, where a
shanty town makes for a bad honeymoon and the Lord
both giveth and taketh away. My name is Gentry Austen,
writer and researcher, and I'm here with my co host,
adult film historian Casey Scott, And in this week's episode,
we are heading south for a mixed up tale involving
jewel robbery, bootlegging, and murder by pitchfork. We're gonna be
looking at a film that has gone by many names,
gone through several hands, and had a multitude of he releases.
So depending on your point of entry, either Something Weird
or Trauma Video, you may know it as Honey Britches
or Demented Death Farm Massacre.
Speaker 4: Introducing Harlan Craven, the most debonair romantic leading man to
hit the silver screen in decades. He's dashing, he's dreaming,
he's delightfully dramatic.
Speaker 2: But he's demented and he's the star of.
Speaker 5: Demented Death Farm Massacre the movie.
Speaker 4: Harlan loved his young, delectable wife, and so did all
the neighbors. One day they were all consumed by the
Demented Death Far Massacre.
Speaker 5: Demented Death Farm Massacre is a film so full of action,
you stupid bitch, blood curdling.
Speaker 2: Good God, she's dead, so ultra.
Speaker 6: Violin ah ah ah.
Speaker 5: That only a master of horror and suspense like John
Gardine could do it.
Speaker 2: Justice.
Speaker 7: I am the Judge of Hell.
Speaker 5: So race to see Demented Death Farm Massacre.
Speaker 3: So joining us this week to discuss this. Don Davis
directed Southern Fried Hick Flick is friend of the pod
our favorite third Wheel mister Alex DeSanto, who has been
doing some deep research into this regional oddity. Specifically, it's
mysterious hard to miss Amazonian star the Dsanto described Titanic
testament to womanhood's totality, Miss Pepper Thurston. But before we
hit the jug, let's take a look at some news
and updates from the world of sexploitation. Let's start with
Ultimate Degenerate Thousand Pleasures again. Anything else to promote here?
Casey asks, I'm not sure I think they're hitting hitting
people's mailboxes right about now. I haven't heard any feedback
really beside about our piece, mister DeSanto, other than you know,
just ten minutes ago, Nathan Schiff just said great peace.
He didn't see anything else. He's just like great piece
on UDA.
Speaker 2: John Charles like, good to know. Okay, Yeah, I mean
everyone's getting their copies and I don't know when we're
getting ours sounds for that. Yeah, I don't know when
that's happening. Yeah, I was in a mood this morning
about that. But it's not you know, it's not. And
I will say this, this is not a specific thing
for one company or one person. I feel like this
is an industry wide thing, and I feel like this
late stage in the game, every boutique label should have
an established system for contributor copies to contributors to their releases,
and maybe on popular opinion, when your inventory shows up,
that first box, the first stuff that gets put in
the mail goes to the people whose names are on
that release. That is that they should. Everyone should be
getting releases before any of your customers receive those. It's
very disheartening to see people talk about your work and
you are not able to take it in yourself or
see how it was presented in the finished product. And
this is not specific to just one company. I've said
that this is not just about this. Really, we've had
to beg for other releases from other companies. I will
actually I will name and name the one person we've
never had to beg for anything. Teern In over work
at AGFA was always his proactive and didn't just send
us one copy of stuff. He sends us multiple copies
of stuff. So teering In promote it and give it
away exactly. Just thank you so much teering In for that.
Nobody should be put in a position of having to
beg for these things. But also, I will say, no
one should feel like they're going to quote unquote lose
gigs by being too persistent or saying anything about this publicly,
that they're not receiving copies of stuff they contributed to.
I feel like I can say it because just like
the fact that these are supplements, this is supplemental income
from me, or in some cases not income because in
some situations I don't charge money. So if gigs dry
up because I'm saying this doesn't matter, that's fine. I
bet I know I'm not the only person who feels
this way. I've talked to literally every person that I
know who does supplements to have this problem with multiple
different companies across the board. So I would love everyone
to get this fixed and situated. Please, it's not it's
not that it should not be that difficult to do.
The first box that come in comes in. That's for
your contributors, and it should just be more clear that
you're even gonna get one. I know Chris who contributed
to the Keno release. You know, he went out and
just bought it himself because he didn't know that they
were going to send him or not, which is crazy. No,
that's yeah, happening should never be happening. Yeah, So it's
just it's a thing, and I know that there are
extending circumstances in certain situations, and I can be as
understanding of that as possible. I'm not even upset about
it for me, to be honest, because to be to
be frank, I am years behind in contributor copies. Like
there's stuff that I haven't a busted that I worked
on years ago that I still haven't gotten copies for.
And I take the blame for that because I know
that I should be asking for those things. But I'm
more upset about it because when we invite people to
come beyond these releases and then they are now chasing me.
So I'm getting like messages to multiple people asking can
you follow up? Can you follow up? It's not a
good look for me or the person that is supposed
to be in charge of this. So it's not good. Again,
this is not one company. I'm making this very very clear,
abundantly clear. This is not one company or one person
I'm talking about. This is an industry wide thing. So
I don't know what's going on. I know there's a
lot of moving parts at all these different boutique labels.
One of those moving parts should have this like locked
down and very clear. At this point, it's twenty twenty six,
and boutique labels have been a thing since the late nineties,
like guys, since the DVD era. This is not hard.
Speaker 3: What was that release that Sam Degan posted about a
while back where she's like, I finally got my contributor
copies and they said, I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't going to bring that up, but yeah that yeah,
one of the usual suspects, But yeah, that took months
for her to get and that's literally insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sam is a very insane diplomatic about this.
You know, she's very careful about the ruffle feathers. I
feel like publicly she is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as careful just because, like I said,
I do this on the payroll. Yeah, not on the payroll.
I do this for fun. I do it to help
to help document the history and make these releases better,
because that's that's what I want to do. I want
it to be something that I would want on my shelf.
So yeah, no, this is not This is not any
kind of like subtle read or any vague you know,
there's no vagary about this. This is everybody. This is
every company. Every company has this problem. So can we
get this under control? Please? This is something I would
probably be saying if we were on like Ryan's Disconnected
show that goes out and has heard by many more people. Yeah,
I just I feel bad because there's it affects multiple people.
For me could care less. I'm fine, I'll eventually get it.
I'm not worried about it. But like for people that
are putting so much work into these into these these contributions,
these releases, and then it's one thing to see people
talk about your contributions. It's another thing to have it
in your hand and you can see it and it's
tangible and it's very different. So yeah, there's definitely since
a pride that comes with it. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think it should be a controversial take and
I don't think it shouldruffle feathers of anybody to a
boutique label. They know it's a problem and they need
to fix it. I just don't think anyone's saying anything
like this publicly to convince them to fix it exactly,
because yeah, I think that's the thing. Yeah, people are
scared that I want to They don't want the work
to drive I'm like, listen, if your work speaks for itself,
you shouldn't be afraid of the work drying up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hey, we're not perfect either, because you know,
we have done a bad job of promoting no event
tonights that Jeffrey is putting on sponsoring I should say
out at the wind.
Speaker 2: Gap, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: So we'll have to hear back from him, you know,
tomorrow and see how it went. He's doing Desire under
the Palms and Confessions of a Young American Housewife, So
two very different syn nos, different eras, very different locations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, different levels of talent in front of the screen too, yes,
But American Housewife it has Chris Jordan and Marri Mendem
and Jennifer Wells and among others. So that's absolutely worth
going to the theater, coming to the theater for Alex.
Do you have anything to say about that pairing.
Speaker 8: About the pairing? No, All I have to say is
if exploitation is playing your area, go support it. Just
go support it, folks, so we can get more of this,
we get more of this happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, And Jeffrey's doing giveaways too. He
has like posters and stills, very rare things that he's
giving away to like the first handful of people that
come and find him. So I think that's very cool.
You can get a little a little piece of Sarno.
Speaker 8: I think that's a front, folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be after watching.
Speaker 3: Confessions of a Young American house that one. Yes, maybe
maybe not the other one, but right, Yeah, I think
it's Tim Lucas. Yeah, it said it's.
Speaker 7: One of us.
Speaker 3: I agree, one of Sarno's hottest movies.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you can't miss that one.
Speaker 2: I think Jim Holliday said it was his choice for
the hottest softcore film of the seventies. I still say
it's all American Girl, but this is it's up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Greek exploitation. Tell us about these casey, I.
Speaker 2: Had to rape just a little bit about this. I
won't go off that long because I know we have
a lot to talk about on the show. I will
just say, do not sleep on Greek's exploitation. These are
two sordid, sweaty, sleazy Greek exploitation movies from the Styes
that are very very New York s exploitation coded. They
are very like they're they're very noir inspired. There's like,
you know, uh, a collection of criminals. There's like a
really great fem fatale star. Lesson the Swamps is kind
of like if you were shooting a New York Noir
s exploitation movie and set it in the Florida Swamps.
It's like a perfect mix of those two types of films.
So I highly recommend that release. It's a Lesson the
Swamps and Secrets of Sinful Athens, and I think it's
limited to like a thousand copies or something, so yeah,
so I think it's a thousand. So I would definitely
recommend getting up before it sells out because I could
not stop raving about that experience. Yeah you're not You're
not alone either. I've seen some good notices for that one.
I think to Code and Chris like those two. Yeah, yeah,
what is this all?
Speaker 3: Alternative cinema? They are a Something Weird video partner. I
always forget to, like check their website to see what
the hell they're up to, because they're not the greatest
about promoting themselves. But they've been doing these Racy Reels
series of films, and they're doing a Barbara Mills double feature,
matten Ae Wives and the Executive's Wives, which are I
can't remember if I've seen mattin a Wives.
Speaker 2: You haven't, I've told you you Oh yeah, because it's
Barbara Mills. Yeah, what's going on here? These are DVD only.
I don't know why that is. I only know about
this release because Lisa posted about it. Because Lisa is
always really good about promoting the Something Weird Italian titles,
and so she promoted this. I forgot there were even
three of these so far. This is Racy Reels volume four.
So my only concern is that they're going to slap
their fake copyright on the credits and maybe mess with stuff,
for example, Cries of Ecstasy, Blows of Death. They added
new stuff to that, so I'd hold on to my
DVDR in addition to the Blu Ray, so I'm hoping
they don't mess with these please. Mattne Wives is terrific.
It's great. It's only exists from one print, and Executives
Wives is Barbara Mills and a few other people which
I actually have not seen Executive Wives, but it's Barbara Mills,
and I'm you know, Matt New Wives alone is worth
the purchase of that.
Speaker 3: So another interesting release is Lamage by Radians. Yeah, and
I had the same question that you had in the
notes here, Casey, which is, yeah, where's Jeremy Ritchie on
this release?
Speaker 2: I was really shocked, especially because we legitimately discussed the
possibility of this Blu Ray happening on our episode with him.
Speaker 3: And Jeremy was you know, had said explicitly like this
is the one I'm looking forward to the most to
get a release. So yeah, when I saw that come
out without him on it, I was honestly, just a
little bit disappointed for him.
Speaker 2: I was too, especially because when you've literally written the
book on the star of a film and you're left
out of a project like that, that's like, arguably, I
think it's probably her best performance. So there's a lot
to talk about with that movie. I was very very Yeah,
I was very disappointed. Obviously. I love that Sam is
involved Sam Degan because Sam is Sam. Sam has a
good track record on stuff, But I don't know why
it's not one or the other. We could have gotten
both and it would have been even better release because
then we would have had history and discussion from different
angles on that. So I don't know what the deal
is with the Radiance. I actually don't have to even
own a Radiance release yet, you know this, I need
to pull the trigger on some of their stuff, but
I'm just like, I don't know what they're thinking of
not including the man who wrote the book on Sylvia Cristeal.
Speaker 3: Massage, Parlor Wife updates our last episode.
Speaker 2: With Mark Murray.
Speaker 3: I was like, back at our notes and there's still
a lot of stuff we didn't even cover. But that
is tends to be the case sometimes when we have
guests that are enthusiastic and ourselves that have just so
much to talk about with them. So but that's kind
of my way of saying, hey, go check out our
show notes on the patreon, which has all the stuff
we didn't get into involving cast and crew. And I
also say that I posted a little Q and a
I had.
Speaker 2: With Barry on our Patreon. He read it.
Speaker 3: I sent it to him and he said, thanks, very generous,
kind and true. So yeah, he appreciated a little shout out.
I don't know what he was expecting, because, you know,
when I was talking to him, I did mention that,
you know, we're working on a podcast. You know, I
might write something, and he kind of sent me a
whole bunch of information about stuff he's been working on,
and who knows, you know, maybe I will write something
larger or longer. But this was just a nice little
cup paragraphs in a nice little Q and A about
this movie, which clearly he's not super enthusiastic to talk about,
but he provided some really good information, So I thought
that that was worth putting it up on our patreon.
Speaker 9: If you want to know the truth, see Shatty Town Honeymoon,
see the strange and seamy side of mountain life, where
they love by the rule of a shotgun.
Speaker 7: Harlan's out still come on.
Speaker 9: We are all after the shatty town honeymoon, torn from
the land of child ride and steam heat, shanties, wild women,
white lightning and art mountain men, a shanty town honeymoon movie.
They're kind of kinship means anything goes, and the kind
of love that doesn't wait. On Ceramon, anybody is good
looking at you, he just gotta be hitting for action.
Me to read a suit. A young girl sold into
wedding slavery to pay her father's debts.
Speaker 7: No dabt, please don't may be merry up with that
smelly old man.
Speaker 9: Shantytown honeymoon It still happens today.
Speaker 10: If you're old enough to be married, you must see
probably to be married see honeymoon in color admission.
Speaker 3: So I think we did a good job getting through
that in less than an hour, impress.
Speaker 2: Let's we don't need we don't need the we don't
need the crack of the whip from Sir de Santo.
We have we have a lot to learn from him.
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys cannot see him because he is in
overalls and plaid right now. So, yes, he's very, he's
very Maybe it wouldn't be the crack of the whip,
it would be the the switch.
Speaker 2: Do you have a switch on you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sure, get me a switch.
Speaker 8: Oh I just got to go to a tree and
cut one down. I'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Or for this movie, maybe just a good old fashioned
moonshine jug to the to the forehead.
Speaker 8: It's for Yeah, I got right here, like damn, oh
there it is. Yeah, okay, well watch out that look
that looks sharp.
Speaker 2: That's a little bit you guys can't see it. It's
a little red.
Speaker 3: It's a little devilish looking. I don't know if that's
or maybe it's just lighting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's read from blood. It's red from Blood victims. Yeah,
that's that's not a Milligan pitch for no.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe I'll read the synopsis on this one
to start, because I actually really like this synopsis. Whoever,
it kind of has a ring.
Speaker 2: Of uh, Mike brainy here. I'm not sure who wrote this.
It was written by Luther Heggs, which is a pseudonym
for somebody I don't know. Yes, you have the Trauma synopsis,
and I trashed that because yeah, that's garbage. Yeah, we
don't need to amplify trauma. They've had a rough week
with their little AI advertisement on Instagram that got a
certain distributor in trouble. So yeah, well yes they did,
and uh we will.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: God, I'm really of shadiness today, I guess all right,
So let me read this Nap and Pepper the spirit
of Pepper in me.
Speaker 3: Harlot woman, Oh evil, you shall be punished for your
horn ways, screams big old Harlan to the sexy black
hooker he's selling his moonshine to in the opening few
minutes of Honey Bridges, one of our favorite redneck movies
from one of our favorite drive in hucksters, ex Spook
Show magician Don Davison shot in Alpharetta, Georgia. Honey Britches
was Don's follow up to his earlier Moonshiner's Woman from
nineteen sixty eight, and though Honey Briches has a bigger
budget and sports a much slicker technical polish, none of
that gets in the way of the hillbilly bliss achieved
by watching some of the dumbest characters on the face
of the Earth run around killing each other.
Speaker 2: After spouting biblical.
Speaker 3: Dribble to the above mentioned hoe, Harlan returns to his
wretched little clapboard cabin to find that Reba Sioux has
just bought Brye of only four days, has HouseGuests, aggressive
stud Kirk and his gal pal Karen, and British fop
Philip and girlfriend Suzanne, a big breasted giant test that
steals every scene she's in. Claiming to have suffered car trouble,
the quartet are actually jewel thieves hauling a suitcase of
stolen gems from New York to Florida, who hoped to
elude the police by hiding out with some stupid hillbillies.
Alex Santo, this was kind of your This is your Baby.
Tell us about your history with this film.
Speaker 8: I first saw this via the Troma version. This was
the first exploitation film I'd ever seen. Actually, I think
I saw one was like twelve or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
this was one of those films that Brett would put
out on one of those Toxie sets, Toxi's Triple Tear
and then and then another their set, which had haunted
me since I was even younger than that, seeing them
at my local video store, so got ahold of those
saw this though kind of knew what I was in
for because I always google everything, being a child of
the Internet, and so I put this on and I'm
just going, no, what the fuck is this now?
Speaker 11: What is this?
Speaker 8: What the hell is this weird hybrid ass thing with
John Carradine and blah blah blah blah blah. And even then,
I think I was looking for the Honey the Honey
Bridges version, because I was like, there's something about this
stupid little movie. It's so full of personality, it's so quaint,
it's so tame for how it was marketed and everything
like that. Though a lot of Do Dave's movies are
kind of like that as a whole. They're oddly tamed,
every single one of them.
Speaker 3: Like in the sexual department, even in violence, given the violences.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there's there's not a lot of any. Yeah,
there's not. There's not a lot of either. There's there's
just enough and I can't really well of course, Pepper Thurston.
Actually all the women are incredible in this, almost all
of them. Karen is just okay, she's there, she's being
dumb uh and I can't really explain why this grabbed
me other than why does this why is this regional
oddity a thing? Why does this exist? Why was this
released under titles like hill Billy Hooker and Little Whorehouse
on the Prairie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we kind of know why.
Speaker 3: I will probably get into the marketing later, but yeah,
yeah we will.
Speaker 2: Could you sell right away?
Speaker 3: Like, did you understand that the kerotine were inserts those scenes?
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, because I've already looked it up. And I
could just also tell by like the hairstyles, like just
by the main film that this was not a film
from the mid to late eighties that like it just
couldn't have been. Yeah, And also it was just so
odd they cobbled together, like the music that was inserted
at the credits, yeah yeah, yeah, and when they're walking
the woods and things like that, Like it was just
obvious that something was wrong with this film, that there
was obviously both hands in it, and I mean, knowing
fred Olen Ray's output, this obviously wasn't made by fred
Olin Ray, I mean the original film, Like you could
you can just tell why would fred Olin Ray make
something this tame so on and so forth?
Speaker 2: So yeah, what about you, Casey. I saw I think
the first time I saw it was something weird. I
didn't see Dementa Death, Barm Massacre. I'd heard of it,
and I had the TOXI. I had the same release
that Alex did because I had I think I bought
all of those. I hadn't watched it because I because
I read Michael Weldon's review, but they said it was terrible,
And Michael Weldon's review told said that it was from
that earlier film. So when I saw that it was
in something were catalog under a different title, I grabbed
that first and watched that first, and I was like, oh,
this is really good. And then I watched the Trauma version.
I was like, the only thing about the Trauma version
is that it looks cleaner and crisper, because even if
it's a video transfer, obviously they had a really nice
element to be able to create that new version. Would
love to know where that that ended up, because.
Speaker 8: I can explained all that.
Speaker 2: Now is this thirty then I don't know where it is?
Speaker 8: So yeah, oh no, they did it disintegrated under their care.
Shame you can't. That's that's completely unusable.
Speaker 12: Now we just have this.
Speaker 2: Print from a drive in in Columbus, Ohio. I think
ye yes from the east Side Rainbow Drive in of Columbus,
Ohio for the liner notes on the release.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Death Farm is the best we'll ever see
it in terms of its original color.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to. I kind of want to,
either me or if someone else has the time to
do it, do like an edit, YEA, create a hybrid,
create a hybrid of stuff if possible, because I think
there's a new soundtrack in that version, is there not?
But I don't know if it's used over the actual
Davison footage.
Speaker 8: In some parts, it's not used over anything that has dialogue, right,
It's not used over like any dialogue scenes or anything
like that. It's only like one or two spots.
Speaker 2: Okay, so a fan edit could be done. Yeah, I
would love that. I mean yeah, because I don't know.
I definitely go on this movie. Yeah, I know that's
your next project after the Seeds Restoration, the Honey Bridges restoration,
what we have existing.
Speaker 8: Would absolutely love that.
Speaker 2: I do love it though I think it's it is
and I mean from a very sorry collection of films,
it is Davison's best movie, you know, it's not saying much,
but I do love it because it is so it
is so southern, it is so drive in, it is
so it makes total sense that it really didn't. I
don't think it really left a lot of a lot
of southern regional distribution if it did not well documented.
I know Moonshiner's Woman did, But I didn't.
Speaker 8: Really find this plane anywhere north of the country. Let's
just say that. Yeah, there's like a certain dividing line
between north and south where this played and where this didn't.
You were not about to see this on forty second.
Speaker 2: Street, no, And then also you weren't going to see
it out west in like California, either Seattle or anything
like that. So yeah, that's kind of like Moonshiner's Woman.
The furthest west that I saw at get was New Mexico,
and that was shocking to me too. I was like,
how is this showing in New Mexico like as late
into the early seventies Moonshiner's Woman. I was just like,
this is really crazy. They must have been really hard
up and they just had a print flying around those
are those black and white piece of shit?
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, as we'll find out Davison was
not against playing these things to absolute death.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that's probably why there aren't that many
prints remaining of a lot of this stuff, and in
some cases not at all, because it's just kind of
running into the ground. Literally.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the South was sort of Don's bread
and butter, wasn't it, So it makes.
Speaker 8: Sense dominated the South. I mean, he made enough money
in the South anyway, like as it is, like he
had the sticks sown up.
Speaker 13: Police saying they have no clue to the whereabouts of
the jewel thieves. The report that a jeep was stolen
from in front of the Star truck stuff two men
and two women yesterday has been confirmed. However, the jeep
has not been located.
Speaker 14: Fingerprints found on the crashed airplane have been sent to
Washington for identification. On the local scene, Billy Joe Whitaker
says she plans to try out for the blue ribbon
in the cake bake off at the fair. Miss Hyar,
you know, Billy Joe.
Speaker 3: So yeah, give us a little background on Don Davison
for those who aren't aware.
Speaker 8: Okay, So Don Davison, Yeah, Gary folks so bored in
born nineteen four four in Dayton, Kentucky. We found out
because reports were conflicting about that. He told different newspapers.
I was born in Boston. I was born in Cincinnati,
so far and so forth.
Speaker 2: Northern cities too, by the way, I think it's interesting
He's like, oh, yeah, I'm from I'm from these northern
metropolitan city It's like, well, no.
Speaker 8: He's just such a cultured man.
Speaker 2: Sure you can hear it in his voice every time
he talks, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, So he I've made Showmanship was in
his blood. I mean, as a young lad he started
he became an amateur magician, playing in like school ititoriums,
local kowana's clubs and things like that, like in his
early teens, and then around that time also was a ventriloquist.
Still not an adult, he became a yo yo champion,
doing demonstrations and judging local yo yo contests, and I
believe also, I don't know what it was, but he
supposedly also had his own little TV show. I have
no idea what happened on said TV show. Alas, though
always getting too big for his current pair of bridges,
in his late teens, he began working in spook shows.
Now to those who don't know what a spook show is,
don't think this is at crossover and with our audience,
and that spook shows were a long running form of
pretty much spooky magic shows. They were bored out of
the spiritualism movement, and at first we're mostly just like
like elaborate seances where ghost would materialize and things like that.
But what they became to be and became most notorious for,
was they were normally done at midnight. They were traveling
magic shows, which pretty much consisted of thirty minutes to
an hour of spooky magic like as you can see
in Moonshiner's Woman. One of the things was burning someone
in a casket, open it, turvial, flaming skeleton, classic people
being sought in half. Into the sixties and late seventies
they got a big gorrier with the dismembering people and
so on and so forth. Then there'd be something called
a blackout where the magician would release the spooks into
the audience and all the lights would go out and
suddenly over your head and all around you, ghosts would
fly about, skeletons running up and down. Occasionally celebrities like
James Dean and Liz Taylor would mystically appear, which is
just a giant cutout painted and luminous paint so far
like like like the ghosts were normally cheese luminus cheese cloth.
They paint, They paint the face of a skull in
luminous paint and they just like flip it around so
it looks like it's appearing disappearing over people's heads.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like William Castle stuff like he like
he was doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, like William Castle on steroids pretty much. And
then and the showould ends and you would then see
two horror movies afterwards, so you got like three hours
of entertainment pretty much. And these were popular back then.
They were the precursor to like the hot houses that
we know today. They were touring all over the States
and into Canada even all sorts of different magicians were
doing it, and so yeah, naturally Davison he began touring
with one called Doctor Sin's House of the Living Dead,
which is a very obscure one. I've never seen paper
for that. But eventually he went out on his own.
Always keep been an eye on what the kiddies were into.
He did shows that always had some sort of pop
culture hook to them, like when the twist was big
in the mid sixties, he had Monster Go Go that
involved a twist contest gore. The Gore films were happy
at that time, so he did the Horror Chamber of
Blood and Gore that that wasn't actually gory, according to
his According to him, it was just the title. The
monster craze was going on, famous monsters of film mate
and all that, So he did one called the Hollywood
Monster Show, and yeah, and he'd have all sorts of
wonderful odd things as as you can see in the
show notes. He did one where a man was apparently
bury alive in person and you could like look down
and see him down there, and he'd be buried down
there for like a weekend or so, and then they'd
dig him up and he'd be fine. Did then the
Tories saying one of the best, one of the fun
little hooks that they'd always do is win a free
dead body. That dead body was a chicken.
Speaker 3: Right, that wasn't There a story where Don Daevisi isn't
was telling in that documentary about how the woman she
just wanted to buy the chicken because she wanted dinner.
Speaker 8: No, no, what happened was that. Okay, So of course
they always bought the cheapest chicken that they could get,
pretty much right. And so one of the theater owners
this this little lady and just for history, folks, this
was also back in the day when like movie theaters
actually had stages and stuff. We're very more mom and
poppy like, not you know, the cineplex types that we're
talking about. So this local little theater owner was like, here,
I got you, I got you this this ten dollars
or whatever turkey. And he's like, oh, oh, ma'am, you
didn't have to do that. We normally give a little
a little chicken. It's just a joke because he's mentally
calculating the dollars that he's having to spend on the
stand things like ship, I can't feed the cast and crew.
Now about to pay for this thing. And then she goes, oh, well,
I wanted to find folks this town to have something good.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's okay, I'll pay for my own pocket because.
Speaker 8: Oh, thank god, we can eat for we can eat
for this weekend. Good god, she's dead, so on and
so forth. So yeah, he did that for a while,
worked with other icons like Pat Patterson, who's also doing
spook shows at this time, the man who made that
great little Spooks of Popping documentary, Jim Renewer. Yeah, Ridden Hour, Yes, yes,
so yeah, he toured all over the South with those shows,
all over in the Sticks. There's another hilarious one where
the studio which studio put out Cleopatra, I'm drying.
Speaker 2: A blank twentieth century Fox.
Speaker 8: Twentieth century Fox. So twentieth century Fox found out that
he was advertising that Liz Taylor as Cleopatra would materialize.
They just happened to be playing a movie somewhere in
the South the same time that he was doing his show,
So they got the tear sheets and suddenly, but beside
they're at him playing Cleipatra was going to appear. So
he gets a letter from their legal department's saying so
on so Forard, we're gonna see you blah blah blah blah,
and he sends a photo of his pickup or whatever
ancient ass vehicle that he owned and said this is
all I got, Come and get it if you want,
And they never did.
Speaker 3: So what was the gag with that Liz Taylor materialization?
Speaker 15: Oh?
Speaker 8: Just bought a twenty four sheet cut her out Dowse
the aluminous paint, and during the blackout, twenty four sheet
just kind of yeah, just kind of floated.
Speaker 16: Around.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 11: That was it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if he I was like, wait, there's
no way he would hire a look alike. That would
be far too it's more money, you can.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: No, no, no he didn't. He didn't, But I don't know.
I guess it fooled people back in those days.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think. I don't think it fooled anybody.
I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't think I want to take some little lady
down in or whatever was losing her mind because Liz
Taylor was floating above her.
Speaker 2: No, I think it might have pulled children. And I
feel like that was the target.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, we were the number ones.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So he's playing movies at these things. What kind of
movies is he?
Speaker 2: Plane?
Speaker 8: Oh normally the movies were like old universal films or
the fifties b stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Just that just that he was also is he paying
to like screen these things?
Speaker 9: Like you know?
Speaker 8: I mean I also okay, also these also depended on,
you know, the magician themselves and how above board they
were doing things. Playing movies at playing two movies afterwards
was standard. Everyone was doing it. So knowing him, he
might have just gotten in his head on some prints
and the depot. Yeah, just toured around with them because
they weren't advertised, like like they didn't advertise what movie
they were playing and stuff like no, that wasn't part
of that wasn't part of the show. They were just
advertising the show.
Speaker 2: Right, so they could have even just been printed. The
theaters had there were just like you know, the old
old monogram hour long shit like I don't know, the
Living Ghost or you know, you know whatever, Well, Return
of the Vampire, the Columbia thing, like I two movies
they had to be an hour long each and then
on top of the entertainment, Yeah they're not. I don't
think they're going over an hour per movie in these things.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah yeah. The only person whoever I had this
is very mysterious. The only person there was. There was
only one show that was illegally done based around a movie,
and it was the Texas Chainsaw Massacre show, which was
so obscure you can't find anything about it. But obviously
they were doing that belowboard because you cannot find a
poster or anything for that. And that's the whole thing.
See the chainsaw Monster come through the audience, blah blah
blah blah blah, like like the only the only kind
of known characters they were ever advertising with the classics.
Frankenstein is, well, we're gonna have him, Dracula, so on
and so forth. Those folks. Occasionally they had the fly
they had the fly guy. But that's about the closest
they got to a true ip.
Speaker 16: Maybe the Times, but ill fo everybody makes me stake.
Speaker 3: So what made him want to get into producing his
own films?
Speaker 8: Supposedly it was Ron Ormond, but I don't know where
that came from, Like I don't, I don't know where
that was where.
Speaker 3: That popped out, you can ask about that's.
Speaker 8: True, Jimmy McDonough. Jimmy McDonough, I mean the Amans were
roadshowing things down in the South around this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 8: It's a smaller world than one would think.
Speaker 2: There's money here, don Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 8: The Oldmans were also super notorious at this time for
really having over zealous exploitation campaigns and like the absolute
tamous movies were like you were lucky if you saw cleavage,
super lucky, like seconds yeah yeah, or like Girl from
Girl from from Tobacco, Row.
Speaker 2: Road right and stuff like like that.
Speaker 8: Like if you think about it, that is like the
precursor to Don Davison's model was was the of of
doing things. So in nineteen sixty eight he formed Lion
Dog Enterprises, named after the type of dog he bred
at the time, shitsus, which according to him, meant lion dog.
Speaker 2: Which I question, he's not breeding dogs. He said that
in an interview. He said in an interview that's where
he said he was from Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: Who knows.
Speaker 2: I don't buy it.
Speaker 16: I don't know.
Speaker 2: In that interview on.
Speaker 3: This show documentary, there's like a lot of animal sounds
in the background.
Speaker 2: There's birds and stuff. So he definitely kept pets.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it sounds like he yeah that documentary, it sounds
like he's in an aviary's his house is gone.
Speaker 2: See, that's why it was. Barbara was still around. Barbara.
Barbara would know if they were breeding dogs because she
would probably the one having to take care of those things.
I don't see Don taking care of those dogs.
Speaker 8: That's what I was wondering, because I don't know if
Barbara ever was with him on these on these ventures
or things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the road all the time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, for so much reason. Box Office really listed
almost everyone who breathed into line dog offices, and Barbara
is never mentioned as being around or working alongside Don
or things like that. Tragically, I'm jumping ahead a bit,
but when Mike and Lisa became friends with him, they
never got to talk to Barbara because he just kind
of took all the oxygen.
Speaker 2: Well, he they were so done. They were not together
anymore by the time they met. They because he remarried.
He remarried, like I have found a divorce record for
him in nineteen eighty four to a completely different woman.
So she was she was done with him by like
the mid seventies. Yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't with him anymore.
Speaker 8: Poor woman is so exhausted, I know, which.
Speaker 2: Is why it's weird. Her obituary says that she helped
her and produce movies. I'm just like, okay, but that
was a long time ago, Barbara, Yeah, you know then
I guess, yeah, right, So.
Speaker 8: His first film was the veritable sixteen millimeter travelogue Shiners
Woman Travelogue, which really is mostly just a trip to Florida, folks.
It doesn't really it doesn't have too much of a storyline.
It's just mostly no scenes spliced together for the most part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a They advertise it as like a
Southern picture, but I mean, I guess Florida is in
the south, but this is not. There's no cabin, there's
no like, is there even any moonshine?
Speaker 8: There is a one? Actually, yeah, so so, folks. The
thin plot of this movie is that these two hoods
come and kill this redneck in the woods and they
take and they and they pretty much kidnap his young wife,
which she's not two phased about, as her narration tells us,
right yes, my narration. Also also, by the way, folks,
the head the headgoon is Don and so.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie kind of not doing Don. Don
is not It's not somebody I would kick out of bed.
He's kind of giving Patrick Wright a little bit.
Speaker 8: Mm hmmm, a little bit, I see that. So he
takes her and shows and gives her the finer things
in life, nice outfits, trips, to Florida Beach to watch
racing a gal. Someone in the office.
Speaker 2: That gentry. Here we go again.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 8: She and also just interjected with the weirdest things there's.
There's racing, there is some in hindsight great footage of
a magic act showing where and two little spook show tricks.
The most titular it gets is her in her in
a bikini.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 8: She meets this for some odd reason. There's randomly this
like junkie gal who makes her try lsd and that
trip is something to behold. I definitely want to take
acid after seeing that.
Speaker 2: The most expensive the movie because it was lab effects,
a lot of fast motion and split.
Speaker 8: That's well, that's just speeding up the camera, Like that's
done it and you can just do.
Speaker 2: That in camera. Maybe like that editing of like that
kaleidoscope effect. I'm like, okay, well, yeah, he spent a
little money. I guess it shows that Dawn did have
his ear to the ground. You know, it's nineteen sixty eight.
You gotta have some kind of little drug exploitation in there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she was tapped into.
Speaker 3: But then yeah, but then there's like this book show
magician act in there, so it's like, no one wants
to see that.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't even remember how that ends because it's
just such a conglomeration of sequences.
Speaker 2: I literally you just watched it, so I just watched it.
It ends with her accidentally killing the other woman and
then walking down the street to very old music that
sounds like it belongs in like an old forties western.
It really is super duper cheap. Doesn't she end up
with the guy at the end.
Speaker 8: I don't remember this movie, hass I never seen it
until kept appearing for this.
Speaker 2: I've had the DVDR for years, and I finally watched it.
I was like, oh my god, this.
Speaker 8: Is now of those movies, folks where it's singles strand
sixy milime or they dive an ab roll it. The
gunshot in the movie the like, like like the firing
effect is just them punching a hole into the film
itself to simulate gunfire.
Speaker 2: I remember the radio spots for that more because it's
very repetitive. It's just that moon Shiner's a woman moonshiners. Yeah,
and it's just like wow, yes then, and it's great
and it really actually hypes up the movie and then
I've finally seen it decades after buying it. I'm just like, okay, wow,
really good hyperbole down Like I will always give him
that he knew how to sell shit.
Speaker 16: Now the screen explodes with all the fury of white
lightning and moon Shiner's woman from the Hills of Tennessee
to the Daytona two hundred. It's motor Aurora Shine Drink
and been found in action Moonshiner as a woman.
Speaker 8: So he goes out onto So that's his first film.
He goes Onto the Road. Don't know how well it did,
but with how cheap it is, how could you lose?
With his level showmanship, it probably made some dollars And
afterwards he he then went on to see I don't
know when some of these movies came out. He I think,
as you kind of put in here, Casey, he's this
is when he seemingly started possibly taking other movies and
just illegally reissuing them. Right, there's a bunch of like
just mysterious titles like Wild Woman with a Whip, The Bootlegger, which.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bootlegger. I feel like, yeah, I just put
in the notes. I feel like maybe it's him stealing
Moonshine Mountain possibly maybe yes, yeah, yeah maybe.
Speaker 8: After Moonshine's a woman, he starts, you know, grabbing other
movies and just releasing them as line dog releases.
Speaker 9: What is that?
Speaker 2: A she freak? That's the incident where he I'm about
to get to that. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, technology is weird.
I don't know what was first, the Asylum or Obscenity. Yeah,
I don't know what's just first.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to go with Obscenity. First neighbor released
the same year. There's really the same year, right, that's
the problem. So let's just say his next official film.
His next feature is a film called Obscenity Obscenity aka
The Great Movie Trial, which is partially some sort of
courtroom type drama thing. We don't know because there is
only a trailer and most of it is Don slobbering
over a woman's breasts.
Speaker 2: There's footage there is. There is more footage on Twisted
Sex one and fourteen. It's like it's a guy getting
drunk and going on like on the town. Yes exactly,
it's Don Don once again casting himself in the lead.
The city around. It's much more and it's obviously him
doing color for for the first time, and it's much
more adventurous in terms of its technical aspiration. So he's
trying to do something a little more polished, not that
much abolished, but it's.
Speaker 8: Definitely more together than Moonshiner's a woman, let's just say it.
Speaker 2: Yes, he learned.
Speaker 8: He learned one or two things of between these two movies.
So that comes out in nineteen seventy one. I don't
know how well that did. It's hard to even find
paper for that. It's against the title. It's not on
IMDb pretty much.
Speaker 2: Someone added it to TMDb, but I don't know what
they put on it. I only just found The Great
Movie Trial because I was finding him referencing it, and
then about an article saying it's since been retitled to
obsnity obscenity. I was like, okay, I mean, that's definitely
better for advertising than The Great Movie Trial. And I
also wonder because he said that he was inspired by
the Seven Minutes to do The Great Movie Trial. Seven
Minutes was a huge disaster, So clearly you're gonna wanna
call it obsnity obscenity becauseho's gonna want to watch a
movie by a trial after the seven minutes bombed disastrously.
Speaker 3: Too, that he mentioned russ Meyer because you know, we
know that he has seen some russ Meyer films, which
I think will be important to when we talk about
the movie here. Oh, Surety Town Honey, which has definitely
echoes of russ Meyer.
Speaker 2: Right, but even when his woman founds like Sam's seems like,
I mean, he's clearly seen Laura and mud Honey, Like
who hasn't at that point, Like that's toured like crazy.
Speaker 8: One notable thing to connect this with Shandytown is if
this was the first one before a Sylum of the Insane. Uh,
this is the first Ashley Brooke vehicle that he actually
did with her.
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, sorry to interrupt. I just remember there is
an article about Ashley Brook where it says he found
her and then put her in The Great Movie Trial
and then Asylum of the Insane, and then that's a honeymoon.
So that's the chronology. So the Great Movie Trial was first,
and then this one. Say it doesn't even count. I
just I can't even count it. It's like what six
minutes of footage the.
Speaker 17: Screen explodes in a popent viril explosion.
Speaker 2: Of sheer sexual energy.
Speaker 17: Only recent court decisions coupled with the gradients of an
international director make this film possible. From the withering cesspool
of modern minds and observation of the great society without morals,
People in a hurry, traveling a road that goes nowhere,
people caught in the mirror of self truth, a solid
cinematic realization, man.
Speaker 8: And woman loving, hating using.
Speaker 17: It, a slice of unleashed hate and Villen Don Davison's
masterpiece of sin and sexual package.
Speaker 8: Sunny Sunny. Yeah. So I'm just gonna really briefly get
into her for a second, because she just pops up.
Speaker 16: Now.
Speaker 8: She was a little She was born Chattanooga, Tennessee. Smartly,
she received a degree in business at the University of Tennessee,
began doing stage acting and modeling. She did a lot
of small local TV commercials for local businesses, which is
how she met Davison. How how that happened, I do
not know. And he cast her in this and then
supposedly she's an asylum of the insane footage, which may
be true because the Okay, so I don't have the
she freaked blu ray, I only have the image Monsters
Crash Liver Jam Party release, but there's a smidge of
footage missing from the image, one where a go go
girl is attacked by a man with a knife, and
I'm wondering if that could be her or he just
grabbed her and toured her around to promote Asylum of
the Insane, saying that she is the starlet of Asylum
of the Insane who supposedly did Yeah, well, she did
a bunch of newspaper interviews, as we found, she supposedly
did some radio. Yeah, he took her a little press
junket for Asylum of the Insane, which is eight minutes
of shitty three D footage inserted in the beginning of
She Freak. I mean, I don't know if all the
prints were Chief Freak, because there were at least six
prints circulating. The one we have is She Freak, And yeah,
that did not too badly for him. But how can
you lose on an eight minute three D reel and
stolen prints? It's so stupid, like, how can you Well,
it's so funny reading one of the interviews, it's kind
of like Ashley is Ashley Brooke has sworn as secrecy
about what the movie's about, and I'm just like, she's
not an idiot if she had that business degree. She's like,
you know what, this is great, I'm getting paid. Let's
let's ride this train all the way to the bank.
I'm in papers.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Actually, actually seems like a smart little cookie. Yeah, smart smart. Actually,
now she knows exactly what she's doing.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find her. I was trying to even
trace back to where I was trying to trace her
back to the high school and the college. I think actually,
Ashley Brook might just be her first and middle name
and different, and I don't know what her last name
would be. So that's the titles.
Speaker 8: Ashley Brook is I've learned kind of a common name,
shockingly as well. So lots of dead ends there. So yeah,
a solemn of the insane happens. I can't believe. Yeah,
he advertised that whole thing is being three D. It's
only eight minutes of that, and some of it's just
children playing and a yo yo demonstration.
Speaker 2: Oh right, the yo yo demonstration. Tying back in, He's like,
let's for old times sake, let's do some yo yo shit.
Speaker 8: Right. Yeah, I don't know who the guy's name is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was the.
Speaker 8: Front of his from the old Yo Yo Champion days.
Speaker 3: So he's throwing the yo yo in your face like
as three years like hals wax too, Hase waxes that
yo yo, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: I think something that I think is so interesting to
note though, is he was born nineteen forty four. Some
of these newspaper articles are aging him when he was
doing yoyo stuff, saying like he's twenty three twenty four.
He was literally eighteen years old when he was touring
as this yoyo champion. He was twenty five when he
did Moonshiner's Woman, and he looks so much older in
the movie. So it's just like I think he reads
his older because he's like this big, burly guy, but
he was in his two cell in his twenties when
he did he would click his hair back. That made
him a little older. Yes, he was like a bad,
low budget devious Orson Wells some really nuts he because
Orson Wells did Citizens came when he was what twenty five? Right?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The Moonshiner's a Woman at twenty five, The exploitation this
citizen King Don Davison, the Orson wells of exploitation. Exploitation. Yeah,
it's nuts because when you think about it, Yeah, he
was twenty seven and seventy one. That's really nuts, that's
really nuts. He was a baby compared to all these
other guys like Novak and all these World War two people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was younger, younger than everybody.
Speaker 8: And Bob Cressey was also very young compared to Yes, right,
Bob Cressey was at a little older than him, but
not by much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Presty's another one that he appeared older than he
actually was.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's the roundness. Probably it's the roundness.
But yeah, it is crazy. That's something that I definitely
wanted to mention. It's like when I was because I
was wondering if the birth date was right, and I
found his death certificate and it is right, and I
was like, wait a minute, So he really was in
his twenties when he was doing this shit. I thought
that he was. I thought it was a lie, I
thought it was a mistake. No, he really was like
this wonder kind of expectation. Really nuts.
Speaker 3: Well maybe that's why Friedman kind of like gave him
a little bit of a pass. You know when he
was mucking around with his she freak print.
Speaker 8: It's like, and she also found out a long time later.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I was gonna ask you that.
Speaker 8: One of the commentaries, Dawn fested up about that ages later.
Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, long time later. I mean again,
he has played it really deep down in the south, right,
a campaign that that had included zero artwork stolen from Chantytown.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 8: So who would know, isn't it three D?
Speaker 3: Like unless someone saw it and ran and told Dave, Yeah,
how would you ever know?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, But if he was handling distribution all himself, then
none of the other forty thieves would be aware of it,
Like any of the other regional distributors like a Sack
or any of the other people that were doing all
the Southern stuff. They wouldn't have they wouldn't have been
able to drop the don to Dave Day, would have
had not a clue. So yeah, that's something else I
didn't even think about.
Speaker 8: For context, folks, Davidson was classic road show like he
was very thirties and how he distributed things where he
would just bounce from town to town in town with
him or another associate handling it at all, just really
quickly come in paper a town. Gilso's appearances, play the
film around, move on.
Speaker 2: Which makes me wonder like who taught him? Like who
was his mentor?
Speaker 3: Because if he's this young, you know who showed him
these ropes?
Speaker 2: Well, if he was doing the spook shows, whoever was doing.
Speaker 8: Whoever was behind like Doctor Sin and and shows like that,
would have he would have already known, like to he
would have already had connections with theater owners and drive ins.
I should mention Don was one of the few who
did spook shows at drive ins on top of the
concession stand. So he had so crazy his finger on
his his finger on on on the pulse back in
the back in the early to mid sixties, and this
is just another show.
Speaker 2: And then based on that, with that history of screening,
just whatever print they had, regardless of whether they had
the rights to it. Yeah, just shove a fake title
on anything you have a print of and put and
just screen it because who's gonna know. Once it's done,
it goes back into my trunk. Yeah, once it's out
back in my tront who's gonna know, right, crazy.
Speaker 8: A bunch of crazy guys. Yeah, would have would have
a would have a movie like skid Row, and it
would be some motogram drama from from the from the thirties,
just tacked on in there with a birth of a
baby reel of course.
Speaker 2: Right, That's kind of why I've like i've been, I've
been trying to find out what the childbirth movies are
that he did. And they could have been any number
of different films. It might not have been one film
like I for whatever reason I thought Wages of Sin
or Price of Sam was that sixty six German movie.
It might not have been. It might have been an
age old thing. It might have been because of EU
for all we know. I heard.
Speaker 8: I don't know. And also this is unsubstantiated. I heard
one of the prince used was Ghetto Freaks later on
for that because I was playing into the seventies, which
is nuts, like just like I guess they learn the
wages of sin like I guess they learn in that.
And again that had birth of a baby too. That
was that was a combo. It was the Price of
Life and Wages of Sin together, right, blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know. I need to try
to find more interviews with Don about that. I know
that Cinefier did an interview with him. That's also something
that I feel like Mike or Lisa might have asked him,
and a movie should follow with Lisa on this is like,
did he ever reveal what the actual identity of these
movies were that he put out under these different titles
or was that something that he took to the grave
with him because he was just like trade secret like
you know, you know, I could see him being a
magician and keeping a secrets to himself.
Speaker 8: That's the thing. Yeah, what I know, because I spoke
to Lisa about this last night, is all is a
Mike never officially interviewed him, so he's not down on
the record. And there's a bunch of paper He gave
him a bunch of paperwork. But I don't exactly think
they would say jesup said is ghetto freak send it here,
so on, so forth. There's a lot of Yeah, there's
a bunch of mysterious things connected to Don. I don't
think we will ever know. He was connected to another
weird horror movie show called Horror Swamp or something like
that that leads his paper four of women in a
yard attacking people like there's a bunch of there's like,
there's a lot we won't We will never know about
Don unfortunately, because he died before DVD era.
Speaker 2: Young too, fifty five years old. Yeah, yeah, he could
still be alive at born in forty four, he would
be eighty two. We have eighty two year od filmakers.
We're talking to Barry Spinella. Yeah, we get people in
their eighties.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 15: The pictures that you we'll see in a few minutes
will explain in bold and plain and factual language the
facts of life that many parents cannot or will not explain.
We do hope that many of you have your sons
and your daughters with you this evening to see this program,
for we believe that ignorance is sin and knowledge is power.
And now here was the first part of our program.
Speaker 3: So what I gather here like all these mystery titles,
we don't know if they're even original Don Davis movies
or not.
Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 8: Yes? The only mystery film that he supposedly made, which
is after Shantown Honeymoon, was this thing called the smut
Peddler shot as ride again, which involved some of the
Shantytown women like Pepper Thurston, Valerie Lepsaye to her and
Ashley Brooke, which was apparently shot finished he started working
on the campaign for it. But I haven't found any
thing called the smut Peddler Plane anywhere. So was this
film ever actually completed? Where is this film? All his
negatives don't exist, so besides Shanningtown because that was sold.
Speaker 2: But was he distracted by Film Ventures potentially? I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't know, because when he was working at Film Ventures,
we're going ahead a bit, folks, but he was still
releasing like movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. That's true as well. But then film
Ventures released a lot of He reissued some stuff through
Film Ventures too, like Hillbilly Hooker was a Film Ventures.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, that's right, that's correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Love Slaves was was Film Ventures.
Speaker 8: We should briefly mention Dragon Art probably.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was gonna say, we haven't even talked
about probably what most people know don from, which is
the Dragon Drive in theater.
Speaker 8: Yes, it was just one, but something weird took like uh,
took the name and made it, did that whole series? Yeah,
of storefront hardcore films, which included his intro, his filmed
intro to the Dragon Art Theater, which is a wonderful thing.
It's just Don sitting in a room going, we hope
you enjoy your time at Dragon Art Theater, the best
in adult entertainment. Let it be known these films are
strictly for adults only. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Which is funny though because now now that we've seen
more of the films that have shown at that theater,
they didn't show hardcore for a long time, so like
a lot, but it was all in before. All hardcore
is nuts because they were not showing hardcore. They were
showing softcore until at least nineteen seventy three. They were
not making that transition. Yeah, it was considering how many
things he was convicted for over softcore, like in sixty nine,
seventies seventy one, it was all over softcore.
Speaker 8: Sit still, which is crazy, yeah, crazy, yeah yeah. Apparently
that area was super relicious, folks. This was in Gainesville, Florida.
The open the Dragon Drive in in nineteen sixty nine.
The name changed to Dragon Art a year later, and
apparently he had a ton of local harassment because by
nineteen seventy five he was over it and sold it
to the local Catholic church who tried to run shitty
family films for a short period, but that went nowhere,
so they demolished it.
Speaker 10: Wow.
Speaker 2: He was sentenced to six months and their sixty days
in jail, and he kept trying to appeal it for
several years because he let a minor in off the
move to a minor son.
Speaker 8: Yeah, fifteen had a policeman's fifteen year old son, and
you know what they.
Speaker 2: Were showing Daisy Chain and kiss Me Quick and a
preview of Secret Sex size of Romeo and Juliet, non hardcore,
and this was in nineteen seventy Yeah, And he kept
trying to appeal it so that he didn't have to
go to jail. I found an article where it's like
they kept denying it and denying it. He kept going
back over and over and into nineteen seventy four, he
was all trying to appeal it, and eventual I don't
know if he ever did the jail time, but he
was trying to not go to jail, and I don't
know if they have. They continued to refuse to vacate
the conviction. It's just so crazy that share. Yeah, that
sheriff must have been had it out for him.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 8: Were they trying to make an example out of him?
Speaker 2: Who knows, I don't know. They went all the way
to Florida Supreme Court. He went to the state level.
Not just yeah, not just not just local level and
one state level.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Crazy.
Speaker 18: In the pre dawn hours today, when most people were
still sound asleep, at least two men were very hard
at work. The unidentified pair, wearing stocking masks, marched only
into the midtown office of Dubois Jewelers, overpowered the night
watchmen and made off with what has been estimated at
over a million dollars worth.
Speaker 8: Of rare gems.
Speaker 18: After discarding their masks, the thieves proceeded to the building's
root heliport, where they common near the helicopter. The helicopter
was later found abandoned at a small airport just north
of the city. Witnesses of the scene say that the
men were met by two females and at all four
took off in a twin engine.
Speaker 2: Aircraft that was apparently waiting there.
Speaker 18: The same plane is believed to have crashed in the
heart of the Carolina Mountains. A largion of the wreckage
is currently under way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so he sells the theater and then
what's he do?
Speaker 8: Well, we should get back to nineteen seventy one, okay,
because so in nineteen seventy one, even before Salom of
the Insane is released, he's preparing to shoot another film,
which was which became Our shanty Town Honeymoon. So first, so,
first of all, the original attention was to shoot the
whole thing in three D. Crat that would been crazy.
Imagine I imagine this in three D.
Speaker 2: I mean Pepper in three D, I mean beating heart kid.
Speaker 8: Shot of her walking towards the camera and just smothering
it with her tip, Like I mean, come on, can
you imagine that isn't a whild that wait that.
Speaker 2: She is so incredible and she doesn't even be a
nunity in this film. She didn't need to. Yeah, she
doesn't need to, you know, yes, kind of ruin it
in a way. It's like one of those cases where yeah,
it would ruin it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, she's just all woman. You don't need you don't
need to know what's under the clothing under.
Speaker 8: The herself an untouchable tease, so it adds for her. Yeah,
it's yeah. Just so around this time, Preacher Man had
been shot for sixty thousand dollars and came out and
made a bucket load, so he kind of wanted to
have his Yeah, but made a lot of money, so
he kind of now wanted to have his own Preacher Man.
His wife, Barbara Morris Davidson conceived of the plot. It's
set for the paperback market. I have not found any
evidence of her point out fiction.
Speaker 2: I know I was gonna say, mister paperback, you would.
Speaker 8: Know, yeah exactly, I would have been on those ages ago. Oh,
so she wrote the So she wrote the script for
This Bad Boy, which was then simply titled Honeymoon. Shockingly,
the budget was supposedly fifty thousand dollars, financed by a
various bunch of like theater owners and distributors, none of
Don's money nice even before shooting out. Tanya Hansen was
supposed to be in it, the Swedish Gal. She wasn't,
of course. It starred Ashley Brooke once again as Riba Sue,
and a bevy of other local Atlanta actors, and of
course Pepper Thurston, who was just a local model and
singer in Atlanta. She's only ever in one other film,
The Heat ind of Makbangyao, That of the Girls. I
watched the trailer beforehand to get to get to try
and get the vernacular.
Speaker 2: Right, right. I forgot that trailer.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that awful, awful trailer which was shot by the
which was shot by Lee Jones, who was who was
Don's right hand man in Moonshiner's Woman and was the
producer of Shantytown. See the Hidden of Mouk Biang Jowl
coming soon to this theater. How about Gone with the
Wind of Mouth, the Hidan of Mouk Biang Jow. If
you can't say it, go see it.
Speaker 18: Tennessee Valley Authority, The Odd Father, Moon over My Army, No,
it's Moon over Miami.
Speaker 2: What's that mass man? I don't know, man, but he
left the silver toilet.
Speaker 8: See there's Lee was interviewed once, but only about William Girdler.
It was not a career spanning the interview. So how
they met up was he was he was working in
Atlanta film at some point. But how they met up yet,
I have absolutely no idea. Yeah, other actors, The most
interesting one was definitely George Ellis, who played the Moonshiner Harlan. He,
besides starting off in theater, was most notorious as one
of the early TV horror hosts called the Stoink Duley,
who was more of a little like popper looking guy.
Speaker 9: He was.
Speaker 8: He was not a scary horror host.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was he?
Speaker 17: Like?
Speaker 2: What was his get up?
Speaker 8: He had a he had a little top hat, a
crappy little suit, flower in his breast pocket. Yeah. He
mostly played played for laughs and things. Yeah, he was
the most unscary TV horror host you could ever you
could ever have. But he was well known enough that
that the Duly character was brought to screen in a
Legend of Blood Mountain in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't he on the poster for that?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's an illustration, so it is. It's very strange. Yeah,
I remember that poster now, and now that you described him,
I was like, wait a minute, I've seen that poster.
I would not see that movie based on the poster.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. It's apparently not good.
Speaker 2: The original versions lost. I think the only version that's
around is the Jeffer C. Hogue version. I think because
something we're gonna put that out.
Speaker 8: Was it originally called Legend Blood Mountain? Because there's a
print of that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't sixty five? And then it was retitled Blood
Beast of Monster of Monster Mountain. That's the version that
most people have access to.
Speaker 8: I know, I know someone who has a print of
I think the original version. Recently it's not on a video. Well,
Jeffrey C. Hoague has that film.
Speaker 2: Does he own the retitled recut version or the original version?
That's the big question.
Speaker 8: I know, I know that's not happen.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't matter what the He wouldn't know if it
was true or not. He would just say he owned it.
He wouldn't tell you. I wouldn't tell you straight up
or not.
Speaker 8: That's very true, Yeah, exactly exactly. His biggest claim to
local Atlanta history, though, is that he started the first
art house theater in the mid sixties, called the Festival Cinema,
which naturally did not do well at all. Playing art
house films, he accumulated forty thousand dollars in debt and
had to switch to adult films to make up for that.
He was arrested on obscenity charges. Think around nineteen seventy.
In nineteen sixty nine, thus forcing the theater to close.
But in nineteen seventy countercultural movement was growing a bit,
and inspired by that, he thought it was a good
time to try again, and he opened the Film Forum,
and wildly he decided to open a second Film Forum,
and then a third cinema called the Bijoux Cinema, which
he ran throughout the seventies. Unfortunately, by nineteen eighty those
things barely managed to stay afloat. I'm shocked that they
lasted for as long as they did. They were constantly
struggling to break even. He was pretty much he was
forced to close and sell off the theaters. And by
that point I don't know how well he was doing
on stage. Beyond screen, he had just been really doing
small bit parts everyonce in Blue Moon. By nineteen eighty
he hadn't done anything in five years. So he sadly
faded off into obscurity, broke and died of a heart
attack in the motel room where he was living in
nineteen eighty three. Very sad into that man, because he's
great in.
Speaker 4: This evil Jedile doing weep the name of r Sweet
Fall You from a married man.
Speaker 8: To look After the Light quickly going through Mike Koolik, Yeah,
local actor, he had some six some TV. He didn't
want to talk about this movie, but.
Speaker 2: His IMDb bio was very interesting.
Speaker 8: Have you not read it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Fascinating we have, I mean, yeah, I mean the
guy he was, he was supposed to. He wanted to
get married to a woman whose family didn't wouldn't let
him get married because he was Jewish. They she had
a daughter that he had to give up, and then
he came back like ten years later trying to find
her and wrote a script about it. I find that
very interesting. Who put this all in the IMDb for him?
It says an admirer. Interesting, So I have no idea.
Speaker 8: He wrote a memoir which I have seen the cover of,
but you can't find it anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's about that's about that specifically?
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe? I know his daughter is spoken
about him, because at first I was going to try
and find her to get to him, and I found
him right in living in Florida doing his thing, I guess,
grumbling to people like me.
Speaker 2: He definitely wrote that. He definitely wrote that IMDb mini
biography yeah, it's very florid and very yes, but I
thought it was very interesting. I mean it's it's once
again like he's fine in this but it's just like, well,
that's a very interesting story. I would read that story.
Speaker 3: And the IMDb is, you know, in his biography it
has his height five eight and a half, Like, come on,
he totally updated that, you.
Speaker 11: Know he had that half?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, I do like that. But I
like I like when people around and contribute their own
IMDb bios like that, especially when when they're not really
known people, so like there's no one who would be
updating a bio except for that person or a family member. Yeah, yeah,
but I thought that was an interesting bio.
Speaker 3: He plays, remind us who he plays in the movie.
Speaker 8: Again, he plays Kirk. There you go, and you can
just tell her the name what his character's like. He's Kirk,
He's fine, He's again. This movie is about the women,
like as one of those films were like, yeah, the
guys are just there to give reason for the women
to do things besides walking around looking.
Speaker 2: Great pretty much. I mean that is exploitation in a nutshell,
Like I don't care about the men. Get on my life,
it is not interested.
Speaker 3: There's Harlan as the Moonshiner. Yeah, and then there's the
like buttoned up British guy who is the mastermind.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the discount Donald Pleasance. Jim Peck. He was interesting
because he started so he started as a minister, but
because of his advocacy for civil rights, he was dismissed.
So when he was so, he became an actor at
thirty seven and had a I don't know if he's
still doing it. I just can't find him. I last
information I found is in twenty thirteen he was still
doing theater work. Interesting, so he's been he's kept busy. Jim,
if you happen to be listening to this, reach out
Truthy Moore, who you figured out is assistant director. Trudy
and McCullough now need to do some more work on that.
The electric real sales girl.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I confirmed because there was a picture in
the paper and that it matches her. The chin matches.
She has a little like dimple or a little mark
or something on her chin, which is also when the
picture in the paper. So I'm like, okay, that that
is truly more good to know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's also why.
Speaker 2: She also didn't do nudity either, because she was She
was a sales girl who I guess wanted to help
Don out. Could have been his mistress for all I know. Sorry,
if you're listening to True, that's where the mom goes.
You know. Yeah, it makes you wonder why Robert wasn't
the assistant of the director.
Speaker 3: Does it?
Speaker 9: Not?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 8: Where is Barbara in this whole thing?
Speaker 2: Why involved? Yeah, it's very interesting. How did they Churney
with Barbara's sister? Like I said, we need to research
this more, but you just I don't know. Maybe it's
this is law, I don't know.
Speaker 8: More iconic Madam jesse Bell Valerie Lipsy not just check
es jesse Bell.
Speaker 2: I said, I know it's from the moment her Jesse
Bell in the movie though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and Matt, I told you mad name is Jessic Bell. Not.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 3: That's goods a great little speech.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's fun, she's Yeah, there's little moments in this
film like Barbara, I like.
Speaker 2: You, you know, the script is good, there's good time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, watching it, I was like, this is a poorly
I don't want to say poorly written.
Speaker 2: It's not as good.
Speaker 3: Russ Meyer that's the feeling I got throughout. There are
entertaining moments, but it makes me think of how well
written Russ's films really are.
Speaker 2: After you see this, it's more like common luck habin,
which is not Russ It is Jack Moran. That's what
it's like. Yes, it's like a Jack Moran script for
a Russ Meyer movie, not as Jack Morane script. Pepper
is Alena Capri. Pepper is basically a Lena Capri, Yeah,
but giant, but giant, huskier, just much more. Yes, very
different vibe than Elena Caprix.
Speaker 16: How can you possibly expect me to take a bath?
Speaker 7: And that I do it all the time.
Speaker 13: Try to remember, Suzanne, not everyone is as big as
you are.
Speaker 3: I realized that they actually do a few references to
her size, Like it's yes, I don't I didn't pick
that up in the first time I watched it, But yeah,
it's like constant, like everything they say to her is like,
you're a giant, You're a huge, Like you can't you
can't wash yourself in the sink because you're too big.
Speaker 8: I think I was loving they bust a pig.
Speaker 2: It would have been weird if they didn't reference it.
I think too conspicuous. It's like this woman is a
giant and towers over everyone else in the movie. I
feel like we need to address.
Speaker 8: This, and it is absolutely once again unflustered by everything
going on around her. It's queen wearing that wonderful out
wearing that wonderful sweater with the bet with the with
the belt, the tiniest of shorts, the go go boots,
which is the exact same outfit that she wears in
he dan, So I like to think that her claws
is just twenty of those sure, and nothing more like,
that's just what Pepper wears. She's still wearing them to
this day.
Speaker 2: Well, I was very excited when I was like, you
know what, what the hell, let's see, let's see if
we can find Pepper lo and behold, there's only one.
That name is too specific. I thought it was a
fake name, not a fake name. Yep, it is her
real name. There's a p as far as we know
she's alive. Did you send her a letter?
Speaker 8: Yes? So, folks. There were three different numbers attached to her.
All of them were out, none of them. So I
sent her a letter last week. We will see what happens.
She is my goddess. She is why I wake up
every morning. So if I get a letter from her,
I will there'll be a reason why I won't hear
from me for like a month.
Speaker 2: Now, you have to survive that to tell us that
it happened. Because although if you just if you just
pass away from the excitement, it will do nobody any good.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll be found response from her.
Speaker 3: So don't find your body on the floor like clutch
the letter in your hand.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 2: Now can you imagine, Alex, if you were a little
gay boy in nineteen seventy one South Carolina it's whatever,
and Pepper Thurston rolls into town for personal appearance with Shantytown.
Speaker 8: Honeymoon would never be the same again, that's.
Speaker 2: A life changing though.
Speaker 8: It would be Oh my god, she even would die.
It didn't even have to say anything. If she just
looked in my direction, I would melt.
Speaker 7: Why don't you pick on someone your own size for
want to create.
Speaker 18: If you have a considered mind in your own business.
Speaker 11: Now shut up all of.
Speaker 3: You, so tell us about these appearances she made, though
I'm curious, Yeah, how what kind of rounds did they make?
Speaker 2: Where did they go well.
Speaker 8: Apparently he took Davison took her on a multi city
tour for nine days, with stops at six TV stations,
fourteen newspaper offices, and thirty one radio stations. She gave
away five thousand, three hundred autographed photos and was there
in person at two of its premiere openings. Did they
shuffle her between I do not know if they played
it earlier at one and then they quickly jumped into
the car and I went to the next one. But
the opening ads has a photo of her what looks
like some sort of model shot. She's looking great. Wish
I owned that tonight only star Pepper Thurston in person.
Speaker 2: It's crazy now actually knowing that she stopped at TV
stations and radio stations. There's hypothetically footage of her in
the local news media archives. I wish we knew which
stations and which radio stations those were, because it's entirely
possible there's more footage of Pepper that we haven't seen
yet as herself, just talking.
Speaker 8: Yeah, anything with that voice.
Speaker 2: Holy grail is to now get her six hypothetical six
TV interviews from those six TV stations, every single one,
and I.
Speaker 8: Will get six different TVs and play them all.
Speaker 2: Your version of Chelsea.
Speaker 7: Movie.
Speaker 2: It's just all the different interviews projected at the same time.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm also curious if you know, if her voice
in the film is a little put on or not.
Speaker 8: You know, well, okay, so he Dan, it's the same, Okay,
Like that's as far as I know. She wasn't an actress, Like, like,
I don't think she's exactly being a persona.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I feel like that's all Pepper right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right, you know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Think that's just her she was.
Speaker 2: She's younger than she looks, like, don she's younger than
she looks in this movie. So it does kind of
make me wonder is she putting on an affect to
a peer older or does she just sound like that?
It's you know, I don't know. Can you imagine if
she went through this massive growth spurt at like twelve
and she sounded like that, so she was twelve. Incredible,
It's entirely possible because she's like nineteen of this or something.
I forget what, I forget what year she was born now,
but I was looking we were going over the dates,
and I was like, this seems young for her, but
I guess considering Don wasn't that old either, and he
looks way older. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8: Your book photo was just like half of her head
cut off because she's so tall.
Speaker 2: They couldn't they couldn't raise the camera. That's so good.
I mean, she's Yeah, she's iconic. She is one of
the few those few actresses that appears in something s
exploitation or sexploitation adjacent who never did nudity, and it's
just like vava voom here she is. It's like her
Leslie McCrae and like one other person who's just like wow,
okay icon Yeah.
Speaker 8: To do anything else, she just had to exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of me is like, yeah, she her personality
would have fit in a Russ Meyer film. But again, yeah,
I don't know if she would have gotten along with
Russ's style of filmmaking.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't have, I don't think, because she's dealing with Don,
who's like obviously not Yeah, he's barely a director. So
Russ is much more controlling and in charge of his
style and his technique, and he and he would expect
her to lift shit and things like that. I don't
know if I don't know if don expected to do
any heavy lifting, I don't. I don't think I think
she would have said.
Speaker 8: Now, I feel like she'd even carry her own bags
when they when they went down to Florida, all the
enough folks, this was mostly shot, So the interiors of
this film were shot in Georgia, possibly something in North Carolina.
Not North just somewhere in Carolina I mean Charlotte, Sorry Charlotte.
But because of bad weather and for some and he
knew a lab down in Florida that the folks were like,
you should come on film down here. At some point
he packed everyone up and flew them down to Dade
City to shoot all the exteriors for this film at
a Christmas Tree ranch.
Speaker 3: Well, he had connections down in Florida, we know from
Moonshiner's one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 8: I just find it wonderfully insane that Shanetown Honeymoon was
half shot at a Christmas Tree ranch in the middle
of nowhere in Dade City. And that explains where and
then I guess I explained where some of the fifty
thousand went sure to skirt them down there. I think
they were down there for about.
Speaker 11: A week or so.
Speaker 8: It could not have been more a week. Yeah, this
was shot a lot longer than I expected. This was
almost like a month. It started in early February and
ended in early March.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, he was also dealing with He was working with
professionals like we have, Like I was doing last minute
research on AVM Fine, the cinematographer and the editor of this.
That guy was an established professional like he was. He
was not going to have some fly by night production
like Moonshiner's a woman. That's why it looks better. That's
why the camera moves. There's dolly shots and tracking shots.
So he was an actor and playwright in Miami in
the fifties, and then he moved to Atlanta in the
sixties and he started working on industrial films and he
was successful enough at that that he then relocated to Pittsburgh,
where his family was, and he had a motion picture
laboratory there, which was like a production house with all
these studio facilities. But Georgia called him back. He wanted
to stay in Georgia, so we went back to Georgia.
He opened an editing facility called the Editing Center, where
apparently he later helped Francis port Coppola edit Apocalypse Now
for a sneak previews screen in Atlanta, and he could
they they worked together editing it as a team, and
they cut out six minutes for that preview. I don't
know what that six months was and I don't know
where it went, but so he and then and I
think the reason I recognized his name is because he
photographed acts for Frederick Friedel. And I think that was
because of J. G. Patterson, because Patterson to Patterson connection
to to Davison makes sense because they knew each other
and work together. And I think Patterson also worked as
assistant director on Obscenity Obscenity.
Speaker 8: So yes, it's possible.
Speaker 2: So it's possible to aver him even shot that. It's
entirely possible that he was recruited to do that based
on his editing facility work. And then he edited Kidnap
co Ed for Friedel. He was replaced as a cinematographer
by Austin McKinney, And that's why Kidnapped co Ed looks
better than Axe, because I think he's more of an editor.
So he I'm shocked, but I thought he was dead
because he's not interviewed on a Friedel double feature. He
is still alive. He's ninety one years old, lives in Pennsylvania,
Alex I put his email address.
Speaker 8: I will say I will be contact with him after
this episode.
Speaker 2: Because as the cinematographer and editor. And then it bounces back,
let me know. I will figure it out, because everything
I found points to him still being alive, including like
census reports from the most recent census report. So oh wow, Okay, yeah,
so he's he is alive, he's just ancient.
Speaker 3: And so if he shot and edited, he shot and
edited this, he's pretty close to this film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he could have also done obsenity, obscenity. We
don't know because we have no credits, we have no
press book, we have known nothing. He could have shot
us the Asylum of the Insane footage. We don't know
that either.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, let's it's entirely possible sticking with that, ok Yeah,
And nobody wants.
Speaker 2: To be responsible for that. But I could see him
being a tech person finding that an interesting experiment to
work on and being like, yes, shot, sure, let's try
three D. But he was very active in Atlanta, in
Atlanta film into like the nineties, and then he became
a film professor, and then he co wrote a memoir
of this former army general called Code named Copperhead, which
is crazy because he did a lot of press for
that book. So yeah, I feel like he's maybe the
missing link to discuss the production aspects of this of
all of Davison's movies after Moonshiney's Woman, potentially.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think that's also one of the things that
attracted me to this film as well. For how silly
of a movie it is, it looks pretty good for
like we're gonna expected to It's not russ Meyer, but
like just hearing about it and hearing us talk about
so far, you would not expect to be as well lit.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is, and there's very surprising camera movements. It's
not stationary camera and everything. It also makes good use
of that space. I think that it makes really good
use of the location, so it looks. It doesn't look
as stage bound as it potentially could. It looks. It
kind of reminds me like Scum of the Earth in
that way, the Texas movie, the Brownbrig movie, where it's
all in one location. It's very cramped, but it makes
very good use of that that very tense location. Yeah,
I forgot it was him who did it until it
was like, oh, this is my opportunity to research this
guy because I loved his work for Freedom. So and yeah,
the editing for Kidnapped Coed is really a super incredible.
Speaker 12: She's pretty and only seventeen, the co ed daughter of
a millionaire. Now she has a date with a kidnapper.
Kidnapped co Ed an exciting motion picture.
Speaker 18: You know how much and where to drop the money?
Speaker 7: No cups, no cups, So she's dead.
Speaker 12: A tale full of twists and turns.
Speaker 8: Kidnapped co Ed rated? Are you know what?
Speaker 3: Some of the Earth should have been titled Demented death
Farm Massacre.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a better title for that film?
Speaker 8: No, it's like I mean, for anything, it's not good
for any But if you were to, if you had
to go into your head, and I now put.
Speaker 2: That some of the art is much more, is much more.
That's even much more of like an artistic endeavor than
any title that's ever had would imply I love that
movie to death. But Dementa death bar Massacre sounds like
something that like a film student who wants to make
some something cheap to get into the Troma door would
make even fron Olin Ray at that point wasn't making
movies with those titles anymore. He was making better stuff.
Speaker 11: I think a Land of Child Bryan's and Shotgun Weddings
comes Shatty Town, Honeymoon, You'll beat hart On Creepan's the
Moonshiner who hid behind a good book and broke every
rule in it. And they meet Ribasu, the child Bride
who knew every steam heats Chatty in the Valley.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of your bibles spout in days.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we should. We should probably get into the release
history of this movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm dying to know more about this because I'm just.
Speaker 8: Like, what the hell because it's so weird. Okay, yeah,
so yeah.
Speaker 3: When we were putting together the show notes, I was like, Okay,
there are so many titles and this is just so complex.
We need like a to B and Alex is like,
keep scrolling. It's at the bottom. Now, I got him,
I got it, I got it all right, So walk
us through this.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah. So it comes out July of nineteen seventy two
and plays for around two years as Shannytown Honeymoon. I'm
not really about to believe these numbers. Supposedly, like there
were a bunch of ads for us in box Office,
one of them saying in one hundred and twelve theaters total,
it made three hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. In
one hundred and fourteen theaters, it made half a million.
Now this again, because Don had his stuff all over
the sticks, there's probably a lot more bookings than newspaper
dot com.
Speaker 2: Has of this. Possibly that is true, that's the one.
Speaker 8: That's the one thing, because I found nowhere it played.
It was playing consistently throughout those years, But I found
nowhere near a hundred theaters playing this thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Still want to take into account that he was all
over the boondocks with his product, with his product, so
I probably like it probably made money. We'll never know though,
how much it actually how much it did make. So
it plays around for two years there seemingly does Okay,
still want to know what the response to this thing was.
It has a long ass trailer, has a five minute
long trailer allive outtakes with some with some copy stolen
from russ Meyer as well in it what copy? Oh,
there's some common lock cabin in there, a lush cushion
of evil perched upon the throne of immorality, so on
and so forth.
Speaker 3: That's funny that you mentioned that, because on the Twist
did Sex compilation, I think that Mike had put good
morning in goodbye right before the trailer or right before
the trailer for not Chantytown Honeymoon, but the trailer for
its retitle Hillbilly Hooker.
Speaker 8: I may see if I have the trailer, because that
that got that that's a five minute trailer, and they
just that's just the constant narration.
Speaker 2: Well then footage.
Speaker 3: It sounds like there's extra pepper outtakes.
Speaker 8: Well it's not. It's like all the it's all the footage.
It's like it's all the shots that we see. It's
just like like heads and tails of certain of certain yeah,
like an alternative take of the same setup, or like
obviously the head and tail of a shot, like you
can see the actors kind of frozen there, as if
they're waiting someone to say action, okay, yeah in some
of those moments. Genius genius of course, not too being footage.
As again, folks, this this film does not have any opticles.
It has no like transitions. The transitions are just spinning
the camera round super fast for like a split second
to show the passage of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 8: And the titles and the titles are written on a
wooden fence, so very fitting, very fitting.
Speaker 2: Again, Oh we you know we love that, right, Casey, Yeah,
well of course. But also that reminds me that it's
a very good idea. Then that Avram came from a
strong editing background because he could just edit everything in
camera as the cinematographer and camera operator, so he was
he was shooting this thinking like an editor. So that's
a very smart move on Davids's part. He's like, you
know what, this guy knows what he's doing, okay, and
he'll he'll make sure that this works out much easier
than the you know, the whoever whoever and whatever the
fuck happened with Moonshiner's a Woman.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Moon Woman all Dawn and Lee Jones they like
too guys making that movie. Can you imagine if they
shot this like.
Speaker 2: Just I mean Moonshiner's Woman.
Speaker 3: You can clearly see the editing down probably in the
editing booths, just like with Scraps all over him pulling
this from here and this from here. This film doesn't
feel like that. This film has it's structured like were going, yeah, yeah,
that thing was edited with the chance, I swear.
Speaker 8: So, So of course he pulls out all the stops
as a spook showman does as multiple one sheet styles.
For part of its opening, he had women in little
Daisy Mace other bell gal type outfits wielding moonshine jugs
walking around the streets of Atlanta handing out haralds, which
the heralds are fantastic because it is all just like
old man Mary's this child bride at fourteen blah blah
blah blah. It still happens to this day, folks.
Speaker 2: They don't mention her age in the movie, do they?
Speaker 8: Oh no, but the campaign was really yeah I did.
Speaker 2: I did want to note that, unlike Harry Novac, the
R rating on this film is official. It is an
official NPA rating submitted by Cratic Films. So Gordon Cratick
of cratick In I think he was the major main
distributor for this. He actually submitted this to the NPAA
and paid and they rated it officially. Are I just
checked the NPA website, happy to confirm.
Speaker 8: Official R rating, our rating ontouch every other campaign. I'm sure, yep,
exactly exactly. So, yeah, it plays for two years as
Shane Town Honeymoon, and then once he's done covering all
his territories under that title, he officially because I think
based on the pro so, he retitles it Hillbilly Hooker Crazy.
Was she too old at fourteen? The unpublishable novel is
now a movie?
Speaker 2: The unpublishable novel is now a movie.
Speaker 8: The Hillbilly Hooker, The Hillbilly Hooker?
Speaker 2: Was she too old at fourteen? The Hillbilly Hooker? She
may have been poor, white trash, but fancy was her name.
The Hillbilly Hooker is coming.
Speaker 9: For you, Hillbilly Hooker in color admission restricted.
Speaker 16: Come on, haven't see me.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, so they're referencing back to this novel that doesn't exist.
Or are they referencing the Happy Hooker novel? That's what
I was confused about it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a reference. I'm sure it's a reference
to The Happy Hooker. And it's also because it's after
Happy Hooker, and also seventy four is the year that
The Happy Hooker came out. The one with Lynna Redgrave. Also,
he'll by Hooker was after and it wasn't distributed through him.
Hillbilla Hooker was distributed through Film Film Ventures, who he
was working with at the time. So it's like he
brought this movie over to his new employer and they're
the ones who put that out.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then they didn't have the exclusive rights to
it because then he reissued it, which was not Film Ventures.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, So what happened is I'm pretty sure this
is this is the retitle that only this film got
a There's a trailer which is just Shantown honeymoon footage.
The press book is just people from Shanningtown in it.
And also yeah, I mean at least at one point
it was I think Lion Dog because it's xed out,
but liond Dog's in the press book.
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting as well. And I wonder what year that
is then, because I heard seventy four, because I think,
because I think I have a box office, I need
to find it now that assigns FBI to Hillbilly Hooker,
And I don't know, but you know what, that could
be a later thing. It could be. Yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 8: That's confusing also, while else I mean, I mean, hey,
if these were always all printed up normally, they just
put a sticker over if there was a new company anyway,
that is that is like I say, that's that one's
xed out.
Speaker 2: So and my little Horehouse press book has no not distributor.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah it has, it has no It has the
same as Moonshiner's Woman, worldwide films, the very innocuous.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, it does say worldwide films.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it has the very worldwide films. And yeah, so
it plays for ound two more years as hill Billy
Hooker plays a lot. Again, unlike Shanningtown, we don't they
didn't take out zillion ads saying how much it did,
so I don't even have any hyperbolic numbers for that one.
But then into the mid to late seventies is when
Don brought back his good old con where he would
create a stock campaign of a fictitious film and then
splice the title of that fictitious film onto films of
the same genre. So for teen sex comedies he had
Animal High, which I guess he'd put into like a
crown print or something like that. The trailer is apparently
just him with like two sexy gals and going like
animal high. It's this, it's that, blah blah blah blah blah.
It's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm impressing he spend any money on that, because he
had to spend money to make.
Speaker 8: That trailer, you know, right, shocking shot. So for Southern films,
he we have Little Whorehouse on the Prairie, which which likely,
of course, because he'd have the most prints for Shannetown,
like he probably played the most as Shanetown. But a
newspaper pointed out that at least what if Prince was
hot summer in Barefoot.
Speaker 2: County, right, and then still a movie?
Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, So just take a print, splice
in this title. If it's a exploitation film, call it
Little Hohorehouse. It's so crazy, and then I assume. But
I don't have a press book or anything. Honey Bridges
was another one of these, because it has it has
nothing to do with this film. Why does she sell love?
Did you ever wonder what it would be like to
try everything? And it's a little skimpy gal on a
bike for that, And so those campaigns for this film
were utilized Honey Bridges was the first one after Shannytown.
I found that plane from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen
eighty one, and a Little Whorehouse on the Prairie popped
up in nineteen eighty. I only found it for about
a year, probably played on advertised maybe a bit later,
so as they had a shelf life of about ten years,
I can.
Speaker 2: Sing out on the market how that happened. I mean
it's color.
Speaker 3: It does feel in a way sort of timeless with
the southern angle, wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You say, like you sort of yeah, play this throughout.
Speaker 3: The seventies and people wouldn't really know its original date.
Speaker 2: It woulds you'd be surprised at how certain hairstyles in
the South stayed the same for decades. So you would
see a woman like Pepper Hirkthurst and with giant hair
in nineteen eighty Yeah, that would not be uncommon. Yeah.
Speaker 8: But I can also just imagine that just just the
teenage boys listening to the radio spot for Little Horror
House on the Prairie. It's got jiggles and wiggles you've
never seen, and then they go in and it's that
which only has the tiniest flash of nudity.
Speaker 2: I would hope that those those horny teens would be
bringing dates to get to get active within the back seat.
Speaker 8: And just yet, I hope they were not looking at
the screen.
Speaker 2: I really they weren't. But yeah, if it was some
poor sucker who was like, you know what, I don't
have a date, I just want to see this movie,
it's like, oh, I've seen this twice under two different titles.
And he's also not just the Orson Welles of the Sexpotation, Expectation,
the Sam Sherman of the South just retitle redistribute new
ad campaign. He's just He's just Sam Sherman, but with
almost usually worst movies than the al Adams.
Speaker 8: And then, as far as we know, Sam Sherman didn't
also steal prints and splice.
Speaker 2: Them row a little recipe Sam, But yeah, he was
at least a little more above board, right exactly.
Speaker 8: Don never made a teen sex comedy, so Animal High
was all stolen exactly. That's crazy exactly. So I've always
wondered if there's other fictitious films out there that we
haven't just attributed to down yet from.
Speaker 2: This, it's possible. But then I also wonder if, like
what if That's something I wish I'd ask Don what
if he just was selling an ad campaign and it
was no, because that wouldn't make sense. I was thinking,
what if he was just selling an ad campaign to
these to these theaters or to a local distributor, and
they would just say they're showing this movie and then
just show some print that they already had, so they're
they're not spending any money on getting a print or
anything like that. They're just paying for the campaign to
make people think that it's new, so it's keeping them
in business. But that seems so extra complicated and just
sending a print that you already have of god knows what. Yeah,
I don't know. Interesting.
Speaker 8: I think he found a print. He found chief like
he found there was depots somewhere. He was sneaking into
the middle of the night, grabbing things. Over a decade later,
it's still kicking around.
Speaker 2: Seventy one, yeah, and then to eighty one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 8: And that's when the kind of died theatrical kind of
died out or dawn the con was, Yeah, the con
was kind of up that by that point, or was
it well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for him, right, it was it was up to
the artists in the video, right, I'm just saying that,
Like that's when.
Speaker 8: Like Don's film career kind of just petered out, Like
he left film ventures in seventy seven. These were, yeah,
these little guys kind of his last gasp. And then well,
let me ask you.
Speaker 2: So Lisa was like phone buddies with him. How was
he doing? Like financially was he doing?
Speaker 10: All?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Do you know what?
Speaker 11: I know?
Speaker 8: I didn't ask her this, but other people like have
said that he was not doing the best financially.
Speaker 7: Right, he.
Speaker 8: Was like, yeah, he was a drinker. Like by the time, yeah,
Mike and Lisa found him, all he was really doing
was sitting back with his birds and calling up his
old cronies from the good old days, sure and stuff,
living amongst the vestiges of his Spook Show theatrical era
very much. I think is his last big sale was
selling this film to fred Olin Ray for five thousand dollars. Yeah,
Ray said he bought her five thousand dollars. So what
happened was he saw one reel of this movie. He
was shown one reel of a faded print and sit, yeah,
and he knew it. This was this film called Shanetown Honeymoon,
and he bought it for five k, the rights the
negative all that. He titles it death Farm, and everyone
is pretty much laughing him out of their offices. They
cannot believe that he did this. I still can't believe
that he did this, but I get. I mean, it
saved the negative from going like it's like it kept
it circulating. Don must have been cackling after he signed that,
after he signed that deal. One final sucker, one final sucker.
So yeah, yeah, so no one is so no one's
interested in this thing called death Farm until a one
distributor goes, well, if you like, put footage of John
Carrot it or something like, you just put something in it,
I'll be willing to buy it. Like, just give us
something that isn't just this. So he rents Don Carroting
for a weekend and uses him throughout that weekend for
multiple projects. Kroding shows up in a bunch of other
Fred Allen Ray stuff like Evil Spawn JACKO. He rented
carrotying Jacker for five hundred for the whole week, so
use him as much as he could.
Speaker 2: And I think he's in like bushes just talking. In
half of these two. He's just yes, like it's really horrible.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think only like in Evil Spawn, he's in
a spaceship talking to someone else and it's somewhat relevant
to the movie. So so fred is looking at this
and he goes, well, there's this Preacher guy who pops
up spouting crap. Why don't I just, you know, kind
of do that instead have John being the Judge of
Hell reading off Q cards, which you can hear them
swishing if you listen really closely, you can hear the
queue cards being changed narrating this film. And then he
manages to sell it to Trauma. It ends up being
called Demented Death Fire Massacre. This is all finished on
video and he sells it to Trauma for more than
five thousand dollars I can tell you that much. And
so it has a So it's life extends on video
and it goes all over Germany, the Netherlands, the UK.
Speaker 2: You can stream it on Trauma now right now, right now,
or to be.
Speaker 8: Yeah Truma now, or to be It's It's it's still
kicking around because fred ol and Ray bought it, folks,
And that's where we are with this movie.
Speaker 2: Well, then how does something, how get something, we'reird to
play it out.
Speaker 8: They just.
Speaker 2: Trum and Truma didn't give a shit.
Speaker 8: All I'm saying is Trauma does own this movie interest.
They could pop up with paperwork from it. They have everything. Well,
they did have the negative. I don't know if they
still do. I that's unfortunately gone.
Speaker 2: I feel like they bought this version because by that
chronology constantly, he says Continent. Fran says Continental Video paid
him fifteen K if you put John Cardy in it.
So he put John Keardy in a Continental Video. Got
it possible? Continental sold it to Trauma and just that version.
Speaker 8: No casey. I had someone go to that Trauma look
at the negative.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 8: It was there.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but it doesn't mean Continental could have
sold it to them, That's what I mean. Yeah, but
because of paid that money, then Continental got it that.
Speaker 8: It was told that Continental said they would buy it.
But I don't know if they actually ended up buying it.
Who said do something with it?
Speaker 2: Who said they didn't pay him the fifteen K?
Speaker 8: Yeah, no know, so they they said we'll give you
fifteen cave you do something.
Speaker 2: Oh so maybe he got from Trauma. Then once we
did this. Okay, yeah, that makes so okay.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what inspired him to
add Fred to add John Carroting to this and it
and such.
Speaker 2: So Trauma had the negative to both dement to death
Farm massacre was finished on video, so they had the.
Speaker 8: Yeah so yeah, so Fred transfer the nag, but you
still had as Shanetown honeymoon. So when he sold it,
holy he gave them every gave him ething.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that's too bad.
Speaker 8: It saved it lost somewhere, but it is not well
taken care of under their hands.
Speaker 3: Well, you said you had someone look at the negative,
so it is an archive somewhere.
Speaker 8: No, it was in Truma's basement, right, No, that person.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we know who that person is because that
person then me deals with Trauma to do blue rays
of their work.
Speaker 9: So I have.
Speaker 8: Yes, you happened to look at the negative to see
that was doing and you can't even make out the
image on that damn thing. Oh that's too bad, which
really sucks because years before and so I knew they
had the negative. So I'm like, okay, great, the negative
is there two reels of a Hillbilly hooker print to
show up on eBay with fantastic color, great freaking condition,
Like could have grabbed them, but I'm like, well, the
negative exists, Like there's no reason to own these reels
because the negatives is around. I don't want to like
just carry film around, so I passed up on it.
Then a couple of years later, someone goes and takes
a look and it's like, yeah, this is disintegrated. And
that's the number one thing. That's the biggest thing I
still kick myself to this day is not grabbing at
least half movie. How much for the do you remember
under one hundred dollars? Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's a good reminder though. That's a good reminder for
me as well, because I always have that mindset too,
where it's like a print is just such. It's not
always a last case scenario in terms of a lot
of these movies that you know, if we want to
get a good scan of them, you know, we're always thinking,
go to the negative, go to the negative, you know,
because of OCN, and you know, that's like the gold standard,
and sure it is a lot of the times, but
a lot of times it's not. When all we have
left is like a faded, deteriorating negative. Sometimes a print
is better. Yes, I'm just talking to myself here.
Speaker 2: Well, also in cases like Amazing Transplant, the only way
to get a complete version of that is to find
a print from a print. So you want a print
of that because then you have a full version of
the movie. Yeah, Prince Prince shouldn't be poop pood necessarily. Yeah,
Like people say like, well, it's just a print. What's
the point I can't project her? And then it does like,
well you would You just don't know. You don't know.
I think it's always worth it, especially if it's something
you like and the price is good. I mean, yeah,
storage the situation always sucks, but at least that way
you can kind of take a look at it and
you didn't spend that much money. But I get it
because then you have to really pick and choose. It's tough, tough, yeah, exactly.
I'm like, I don't have good conditions to hold film elements.
What am I doing? I know, Like I know what
I'm saying. I don't have a c What am I exactly?
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm like, what am I going to do
with this thing? No?
Speaker 2: I know, I gotta I Gotta move Mine to the basement.
The only the only other movie that I know that
that Well, it's funny because a lot of that trauma
stuff has come out on Blu ray and they've been
restoring and stuff. One of the big ones they haven't
done A Sweet Savior, and I'm terrified that that's the
same situation is either they don't have a negative or
the negative is toast like that should have been out already,
Like that's that's a that's one of the big trauma
ones that I'm shocked hasn't been reissued. But yeah, always
tell in that, Yeah she is. She has really good
stories about shooting that movie with Troy Donahue and that
the director walked off a set and Troy ended up
having to direct half of it and he was real
high off his ass. So that's why it's kind of
messy in some of the places. Yeah, weird movie.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love it. Yeah anyway, Oh yeah, you were,
you were, you were putting Yeah, you put in the doc.
If there's what the differences are Death Farm folks, you
should try and see the Honey Bridges version. It's really rough,
of course, like it is. The print has seen how
many projectors, but not a lots of missing from Death Farm.
The judge, I mean, the preacher man is gone from it.
He was kind of a fun addition. He's neither here
nor there in the original movie. Right, there's a couple,
there's a couple other things that have been snipped or
things like that. My favorite line of Pepper's boys, you
mustn't want to get married off lay bad.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh lord.
Speaker 8: Okay, she looks Harlan.
Speaker 16: Oh god.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and some different music is added that that when
I also when I when I was rewatching this last night,
of course, there is a double on tendre yo yo
song over the credits of this movie. All right, yeah,
in which version, uh, honey briches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the because I rew when I rewatched it,
I was like, okay, well, the first time I watched
the something Weird video version, Honey bridges, so I gotta
at least watch the John Carrodine demented Death Farm.
Speaker 2: And that opening music that they spliced in sucks. It's terrible.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And then through the woods when they're walking through
the woods, they put in that really awful suspense music. Yeah,
And the end of the suspense scene is just Ashley
Brooke putting clothes on the line.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I haven't watched that person in literally years. Yeah,
I pretend.
Speaker 8: What did you say, Gentry?
Speaker 3: I was saying that there's not enough billy music in
this movie for me. I kind of wanted a little
bit more.
Speaker 8: There's music for both credits, opening ending them walking chase sequence,
and the chase scene, and that's it. It's not a
very music heavy movie. Yeah, it's It just has those
birds chirping constantly in the background when they're outside, and
that's about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The soundtrack doesn't have like, it doesn't have like a
you know, like a common law wife, your Jenny wife
child like. It doesn't have that kind of soundtrack, which
I kind of wish it.
Speaker 8: It doesn't have like a sweaty harmonica in the background
while she's when she's trying to like seduce Harlem and
things like that.
Speaker 3: So what's Casey's rating on this? What are you going
to rate this as you rewatched it, Casey?
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll find out, won't We stay into
my letterbox?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: So I put together a wide ranging list of Southern
fried sexploitation films and let's talk about them.
Speaker 2: What's our favorite? We had a little bit of internal.
Speaker 3: Debate on what we call a what we define as
a Southern sexploitation film. So I'll let you guys just
be your own judge and jury for how you want
to define this these terms. But I know, Casey, you're saying,
what you know, like anything Western flavored is kind of
out for you, which I agree with. Now, Yeah, but
you know we're talking, yeah, like common law common Law
Wife is sixty one kind of kicks off this genre
a bit, right.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you can think of that's earlier
than Common Law Wife that would fit this bill? Not really?
A Girl with an Itch is fifty eight?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Girl with an Itch. I'll start with favorites.
I'm looking at my list here. Well, you know how
much we like the Buccaloos, So I'm not going to
mention any Buccaloos. But you know, I mentioned earlier the
great music that's in Jenny Wife Child, and that has
a really great release from film Masters that people should
pick up. So I'm going to give a shout out
to Jenny Wife Child. Despite the problematic title that might
scare people away.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it has nothing to do with it really from.
Speaker 2: That Well, the original title was Alt Pecking Pause Revenge,
and that's the soundtrack LP is under that title. Yeah,
that LP is great. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: So Jenny Wife Child would be my pick if I'm
like making a suggestion for somebody to check out a
film case.
Speaker 2: The double The second half of that double feature is
Common Law Wife, and I would I would choose common
Law Wife.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Film Masters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a really good release of that with
I'm trying to remember who the I think there was
commentaries on there as well, wasn't there?
Speaker 2: I think so. And a friend of mine works worked
for them and keeps suggesting that I reach out to
see if they're looking for people to do supplements. I
just never have actually. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an audio commentary by Larry Buchanan, director of
Swamp Rose.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's from the DVD. Yeah, from the DVD. Yeah,
that's not a bad commentary actually, because he points out
the new footage versus the footage, the footage that was
shot under swamp Rows and then the added footage. But
unfortunately he does not remember the name of the actress
that replaces Lacey Kelly. Yeah, Chase there's two women playing
that same part, and he did not remember the name
of the second the second actress, so it's kind of yes,
yes her, yeah, so uh so who she is? I
know she's fantastic. I love both of them. But yeah, yeah,
that one is really good. That's that was a good
double feature. It's just an exact same double feature that
came out on DVD and that was one of their
best DVD double features too, so I like that they
just restored that. I don't know if they included. There's
missing footage from their transfer that's present in the some
Sinister Cinema print, so I don't know if they fixed
that for the film masters don't have to research that.
Oh yeah, there's a really good documentary on that.
Speaker 3: I remembered that exploitation doc from Value to that production company.
Speaker 2: Oh Daniel Griffith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ok, yeah, I think it's like a full length
pretty much a full length documentary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like him.
Speaker 3: You'll get more recommendations for exploitation pictures and you get
kind of a backstory. Yeah, they go all the way
back to them and all the child Bride early early stuff.
So road, well, give us an original, Alex, you can't
damn it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but folks, get that release. Just adding on to that,
get that release. My pick out of this list has
got to be scum of the earth.
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, does that even fit
the bill? I don't know?
Speaker 8: Is it in here?
Speaker 2: Okay? I just no, I think it does? It does.
Speaker 8: It's very It's it's pretty much if wrote a sexploitation
a southern exploitation horror film. It's kind of like the yeah,
kind of the same thing is like seeds in that
weird pseudo incestuous family then started getting picked off by
a killer who is a Oh I'm not gonna spoil it,
not gonna spoil it, but that is Brown Riggs's absolute best.
It's beautiful. It's so well shot.
Speaker 2: Grindhouse releasing. Grind has announced it.
Speaker 8: So a restoration screening played up here so mad I
couldn't go to it. So what you're doing? Said on
that you cleaned it up as much as you could.
What's happening?
Speaker 3: They announced like all these special features and stuff, and yeah,
yeah did they.
Speaker 2: They announced ago?
Speaker 8: Yeah, like half a century ago.
Speaker 2: Virtually everyone they've interviewed is dead now because they did
the extras that long ago, because well, that reminds me
Stave Sulkan was writing a Brown Brig book that I
decided not to continue with my idea for a Brownrig
book because he essentially said, I talked to people that
will never talk to you, so it's not worth you
doing a book. So I didn't do my book. And
now we don't have a Brown Brig book, David, So
where's the Brown Brig Book? David? And also, David, you
have my doubt. Look in the basement TV spot. I
gave you for this release twenty five years ago. He
still has that TV spot. Yeah, I know. I've been
waiting for that release for twenty five years. They announced
that literally a quarter of a century ago.
Speaker 3: If you want to know how how long ago they
announced this, they announced it back when they were still
doing DVD blue ray combos.
Speaker 2: No, they announced this when they were doing DVDs only.
Oh real. They announced this after they put out Cannibal
fair Oks on DVD. The first time this was announced. Yes,
this has been This has been announced since two thousand
and one.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, yes, yeah, you're right, it has been announced
long a DVD release. Yeah, there's even a sliver in
this announcement where it just says DVD, it doesn't see
blue ray DVD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had that. I guess sounds like they
had that release prepared for the DVD release and they
just cut copy pasted. Yeah, didn't that blu ray?
Speaker 8: That?
Speaker 2: To tell you something? Yeah, I that is a sore
spot for me because I've loved this movie for ages
and ages and it would do so well.
Speaker 8: One thing I will say in defense, I mean, there's
no excuse now because palely restored it. Elements have been
a really bad problem with that movie.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, so I can I mean not so long.
Speaker 8: I know exactly, but I like I can also see
want to wait a while to see, but also announce
it to see if something else popped.
Speaker 2: They already did the restoration.
Speaker 8: Well, now they have a.
Speaker 2: Year ago when that screened, okay, right, yeah, because I
don't know when they completed that, to be completely honest. Yeah, yeah,
but they've had those ready to go, locked and loaded.
Speaker 8: I think it was just I think there's the vach
there's the VHS rip of it on YouTube or something.
Everyone go watch. Don't wait, because I want you all
to start screaming about this movie because it's really good.
Browning's best. So don't wait because you like, we need
you to help get Grindhouse to get on this all
the time. I do have to mention Shanty Tramp yeah
as well, because Shane Tramp is perfection, se his nasty
backwards perfection. We cannot end this episode without mentioning that
people should see Shandy Tramp.
Speaker 2: Definitely love Shandy Tramp. Yeah, the best thing Keg Gordon
Murray was ever involved with too. He you know, his
originals aren't that great. That's that's perfect.
Speaker 3: It's a perfect movie with the incredible Eleanor Vale doing
a Shanty Tramp turn, a very different character from.
Speaker 2: The Pill and Taste of Blood, very different and met
her husband, who played her incestuous father in the movie,
and then they later got married and moved to Chicago.
We talked about it all on the Pill commentary. Go listen,
we did.
Speaker 8: Come on.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna rewatch that because that movie
is Goody Tramp too long. Yeah, talking about restorations, I
would love a Shandy Tramp restoration. Please.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a certain guy's website.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh god, I keep forgetting that a certain reason.
New movie out a movie that's getting raked over the
coles and hated by everybody. So now Terribody's going to
run back his exploitation.
Speaker 3: And and act a fool even though his movie is
named after this exploitation movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, without credit, he's not going to reference it in
any of his interviews. I'm sure the director's long time crazy.
He can't say anything about it.
Speaker 3: He did a like a little thing for Letterbox, like
I'll pick your four favorite movies thing a little clip,
and that would have been a great opportunity. Why don't
you like reference the movie that your your new movie
is named after?
Speaker 2: But no, because why would he do that, gentry? Why
would he reference? Did he name any of the movies
that he has owned, that he owns and holds under
Lock and Key now in that four Yeah, non's sick.
That is a no. No, he doesn't. He didn't say
because of course I watched it. Didn't interesting, right, didn't
say how some beer mountain He mentions.
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I don't remember what they were. It was
like Charlie chaplain, it was a get.
Speaker 2: Out okay, no hot thrills, warm chills. Who when Rita
Alexander just passed away? R ip queen. Yeah, yeah, that's
too bad anyway, or you're the lord.
Speaker 1: Take away, Johnny, let me play with your yo yo
white like the herded for Violet.
Speaker 7: You don't mind.
Speaker 19: Why rhymes if you will marry me and even ripefred
to Buddy Ever go and break mind WoT you're you're
your stringing too?
Speaker 20: Allus still rising set round where one app on Legas say.
Speaker 7: Do you know you gos never relate?
Speaker 19: Bog me I Johnny came into this time?
Speaker 20: I away answer be shining, you're your life broad While
working off, Johnny Hall went all Frisi niggett round world
Honey a Vegas thing. Working off Johnny will win all
Risi nigge round World one.
Speaker 2: Legan say, come.
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