WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.359 This is India Today Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.480 You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 the sledging room. Let me warn you this is not 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.559 a place for the faint hearted and the weak need. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.079 If you're a sports puff and like challenging everything you 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.440 see and hear, stay If you're a Sooner Bodatya fan, 7 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:37.159 walk away right now. 8 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.960 Welcome back to the sledging room. 9 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:45.079 Some of the usual. 10 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:49.359 Suspects you know, have boycotted us today, have snubbed. 11 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:50.560 Us when they come back after an hour. 12 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.840 Nicol naz Man from Sports Today, he's going to Dubai 13 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.880 to bring us, you know, some exclusive updates from the 14 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:02.320 super for stage of the Asia Cup. 15 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.799 And we have Alan and Debutino. 16 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:10.599 Alan back from behalf back from his long vacation, but 17 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:12.879 you know he's back in the mix. He has come 18 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:14.400 to the he's come back at you know where he 19 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:18.439 critical juncture where you have to track updates probably every minute. 20 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.719 That's how the Asia Cup has been. But not for 21 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.680 the quality of cricket or for the cricket per se. Right, 22 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.400 if I ask both of you name one sensational not 23 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.200 from the Asia Cup, what would you quickly recollect. 24 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.959 H time scratching my head right now. 25 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:41.519 Otherwise you do that. But yeah, but this Cup, I'll 26 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:43.439 give it to you. It's been really tough, you know, 27 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.359 to talk about cricket in the Asia Cup, at least 28 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.959 in the at the end of the group stage, India 29 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.200 take on one on Friday. With that the group stage 30 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.560 is over and the Super Four start on Saturday with 31 00:01:54.640 --> 00:02:01.200 Bangaladesh and rivalry resuming. But you know what happened in 32 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:03.599 the last few days has been If you're on one 33 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.480 side of the fence, it has been okay, befitting reply. 34 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:07.959 You would call it a befitting reply. 35 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.639 If you're another side of the fence, you would say 36 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:11.759 an unfortunate turn of events. 37 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.599 I just dive straight into it. Could we have avoided 38 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.639 all this drama. 39 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.960 Starting from the handshakes nub Could India have not done 40 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.599 the handshakes numb and carried on with just another game? 41 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:22.919 See or what do you think? 42 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.159 Yeah, so if you look at the context of it, 43 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.039 like we have seen the Ukraine War also happen right 44 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.240 where Belarus has been one of the people who have 45 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.000 So there was a game I don't remember who the 46 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.319 opponent was. She was in Ukrainian and she did not 47 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:41.479 shake her hands with realitis. 48 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.639 It is happening. It is happening, and. 49 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.520 You know, for the for the best part of it, 50 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.800 probably a person like Sablanca has come out and said that, 51 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.800 you know, I'm not somebody who's supporting the war. Now 52 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.280 with the Pakistan team, you do not see any such 53 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.800 kind of things, right, You do not see any kind 54 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:02.800 of comments from there side. Or they're strongly condemning what 55 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.599 has happened and being in support of the Indian team. 56 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.919 And in that case, you cannot expect them a very 57 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.240 warm reception from the Indian team. 58 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.599 Yeah, put aside the rivalry and all that. 59 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.439 These guys might be, you know, friends outside of the field, 60 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.719 but in the field during such a situation, you cannot 61 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.719 expect them to be very happy and cordial with you. 62 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:27.919 So might as well just take it and just leave 63 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:32.599 the field instead creating a whole problem with the handshake 64 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:37.520 being there. Going after the match referee, I was like 65 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.360 you said, I was out of all of this for 66 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:39.879 some time. 67 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:41.599 I was expecting good cricket. 68 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.240 When I did not see good cricket, I was like, okay, final, 69 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.159 this Asia Cup is going to pass by. It's not 70 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.759 going to create a lot of you know, a lot 71 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:54.000 of moments and all that, but it's been a drag 72 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.199 in terms of quality. And then you have all these nonsense. 73 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.840 It is nonsense that is happening in Pakistan. 74 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.680 What were they expecting, like what would happen in Loy'll 75 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.560 be chirpy and it will be happy, and we'll have 76 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:06.360 a good match and they'll hug it out. 77 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.120 This was supposed to happen. 78 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.719 And like a couple, they said they rather than focusing 79 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.080 on all of this, they would rather like to focus 80 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.720 on cricket itself, like because their cricket has not been 81 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.800 good at all, Like ask Simony, you for that matter, 82 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:22.040 that it has not been good, So rather focus on 83 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.480 it and after the match is over, rather than talking 84 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.879 about your entire performance, what it was, how it turned out, 85 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:32.839 they're just taking to how oh no they didn't they 86 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:33.839 didn't shake hands with us. 87 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:34.639 We're very angry. 88 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:35.399 We don't like this. 89 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:38.959 Also also with the fact of the kind of quality 90 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.879 of cricket that they've produced, it's better that you don't 91 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:42.600 shake hands with them. 92 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.319 Yeah, exactly, I think I think I think we will 93 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:50.360 our editor bus and should discuss this copy And they 94 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.240 wrote this, but they wrote this copy. Boycott would have 95 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.600 been an honorable exit for Parkists exactly. And this looks 96 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.439 like that because. 97 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.120 At this point in time, when you look at the competition, 98 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.959 India has just breezed past every single team that they 99 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:07.959 have played U a match finished in two hours basically. Uh, 100 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.519 the Pakistan game, it was, it was almost a foregone 101 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.759 conclusion the moment that India started bowling and then all 102 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.439 this hype about free getting getting pasted all over the 103 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.680 place by his thing. 104 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:23.800 Was who's also our expert? 105 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.839 You know, he kind of made a very sly remark 106 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:34.439 yesterday as remark he said that just then Pakistan and 107 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.480 I think he put them in the same breath. 108 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:39.839 Yeah, and he said let them let him prepare. 109 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:46.000 For imagine imagine that. See people like have had high 110 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.199 regard for Pakistan. Pakistan exactly if you talk to, if 111 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:52.439 you talk to have been part of the tribal try, 112 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.839 they have you know, seen the best part of the liblry. 113 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.759 Now it's nothing absolutely. 114 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.879 Like Funnily enough, the only inciple comment that came out 115 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.000 of a man with a Pakistan jersey and was that 116 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.759 fan after the match who said, if they can please 117 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.839 boycott the next match so that India India please boycott 118 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:12.959 the next match. 119 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.680 That UE game, when all this ruckers happened. Now after 120 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.199 one hour, I expected, okay, Pakistan to probably steamroll Ue 121 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.600 because apart from a couple of players in the UA 122 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.639 team not they lack a lot of quality. Then the 123 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.639 next thing I see is one of my friends saying, 124 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.319 look at the scorecard. I saw eleven for two. I'm like, 125 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.240 why why did they even come come to the field. 126 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.800 It would have been honorable for them to just let 127 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:39.240 Yue win the match. 128 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.439 For a guy who is supposed to smash Bumra for 129 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.120 a six. That comment inl did. 130 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:45.879 It it is? 131 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:50.800 It is like the quality is not there now rather 132 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.040 than focusing on it. Pakistan, apart from everything else they have, 133 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.000 the main thing that they've not focused over the last 134 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.360 couple of years has been their cricket and we can 135 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.600 see the results. We have seen the results on the field. 136 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.759 Instead of that, they have changed n number of coaches, 137 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.920 They've had any number of bier orders when they came 138 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.839 came to India for the World Cup. And that is 139 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:17.240 about it. That has been all about Pakistan cricket right now. 140 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.199 And now you have a problem with the match. 141 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.439 What is your best memory of the twenty World cup 142 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:27.360 I think is better? Which better? Yeah, there is nothing else. 143 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.240 If you ask Alan, he'll say Kerala is the best. 144 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:35.959 Yes, probably. If you ask me, I'll say probably Tailor 145 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:37.720 made is the best. 146 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.199 But that is how cricket has been for them. And 147 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:47.279 instead of all this drama, just focus on your cricket play. Well, yeah, 148 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.319 you might not. This is a team in transition. Probably 149 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.720 a lot of people might say there's a team in transfer. 150 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:56.399 Now does a transition go on anyway you think about it? 151 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.519 Like consistent transitions? 152 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:03.480 There coming made that comment it's getting depressing to watch Pakistan. 153 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:08.040 So so the thing is people are asking whether what 154 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:11.319 India did was right. But like you pointed out, unless 155 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.839 and until you don't offend someone asn't like, it's not 156 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.639 a mandatory thing that you have to shake shake hands with. 157 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:18.240 It's not part of the ICC rules. 158 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:23.560 Yes, there is this thing called sporting spirits, uh. 159 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.040 Spirits, which is has always been grey. Right. 160 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.720 When Ashwin did that man cutting as we shouldn't call 161 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.200 it marketing, when he ran the batter at the non 162 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.120 strikers end, he was questioned, But then he was questioned 163 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.080 based on the spirit. Sporting spirit, the spirit of cricket, 164 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.679 which is a little gray. So as long as sur 165 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:44.759 didn't offend anyone, as long as the NID team didn't 166 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.600 offend anyone, it was their right asn't like whether they 167 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.799 want to shake hands or not. After all that has 168 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.279 happened over the last few months, after the terror attack 169 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.039 in Pahlgam and the cross border, you know, the tensions, 170 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.639 it's it's it's you can't just like you said, you 171 00:08:58.639 --> 00:08:59.919 can't just ask them to be normal. 172 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.519 But what pack Pakistan were also right? 173 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.879 Okay, they got hurt, they got stung, they boycotted the 174 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.120 press conference. Okay, I'm okay with that. Salman A, you're 175 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.960 not doing the press conference, Okay. Immediate heart will be 176 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.480 their guilt will immediate heart because on a big stage 177 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.360 you've kind of been humiliated, like you've been told that 178 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.320 the opposition will not exchange pleasantries with you. But then 179 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:23.080 what was that which hunt after Anty Piker? What did 180 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:25.799 it resolve to confusion? One hour before the toss. I 181 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:29.360 just felt for Pakistan players. You imagine being Salva. You 182 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.759 know that UE is not going to be a straightforward 183 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.600 game considering Pakistan standards, and you're preparing for that game 184 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.639 and then you're being made to wait in the you're 185 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.200 you're getting your kids stream. My whole thing is and 186 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.720 then you're waiting for one hour and then you're saying 187 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.120 you're getting caught in the white traffic. Thankfully they didn't 188 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.759 play in Bangaluru, they wouldn't have. Yeah, all this drama 189 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.639 for nothing. In the end, the PCB pc BE Chief 190 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.480 most In Naqui attends a press conference in Lahore with 191 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.519 former to former piece of with Chiefs Rami Raja and 192 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.799 Adam City and then says, okay, we have given the 193 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.240 go ahead because the matter was resolved after an apology 194 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:14.159 from Andy Pykroft and created confusion. Now the ic C 195 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.399 is thinking of taking action against the Pakistan Trikeet Board 196 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.879 for filming that video. They had a discussion, okay, after 197 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.720 all that that happened, the ic C agreed that Andy 198 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.159 Pikroft will come and meet you. They had a concern 199 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.120 with Anty Pakroft. The concern was that he kind of 200 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:32.879 didn't oversee things properly and he also enabled the handshake 201 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.159 snub when said we won't shake hands back. 202 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.360 To during the toss that was during That is entirely 203 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:39.919 up to the. 204 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:42.200 Sum than whatever the India team does. 205 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:44.559 So they had this gribe. They went after Antipakroff. They 206 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.320 wrote to the ice C saying that we need the 207 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.399 Antipacroft removed. Icic said no. And then eventually what happens 208 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.919 the range of meeting. They agree for a meeting and 209 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:56.039 you filmed that meeting and release it without audio, saying 210 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.320 that you apologized and that's why we are playing. 211 00:10:58.559 --> 00:10:59.440 Who are you cheating? 212 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.000 What was the point of all this drama over two 213 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.840 days when it in turn affects your player. Imagine they 214 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.320 are under so much pressure already after losing. Now they 215 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.240 have qualified, yes by by you know, scraping through u 216 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:13.200 A they qualified. 217 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:15.960 Imagine if you lose to India again on. 218 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.759 Sunday in the same dominating, disastrous fashion. 219 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.480 So what will all that mean as a board? Are you? 220 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.039 Are you not meant to protect your players? Yes, you 221 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.200 protest against Piecraft, you protest against India, but there's a 222 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.559 way to do it, not this circus that you put 223 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.879 in front of the media, and then you know, in 224 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.159 turn hurt your own players. 225 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.559 And one of the things that I felt bad was 226 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.559 for the UA players also, like see they are a 227 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:41.840 very young team. 228 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:43.080 They are a team that. 229 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:49.200 Is yes, that's place for yeah, the place forts also, 230 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:53.080 so obviously there's a consion. But these guys are building 231 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.480 up and you know, one of the sad things for 232 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.080 me was their captain Mohammad was him sitting in a 233 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.039 press conference being asked the question, you know your team 234 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:04.639 is full of Indian and Paristani players, so how do 235 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.240 you guys sell well with all these tensions and he 236 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:08.720 had to say, no, we are a family. 237 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.679 That kind of a team is being forced to wait. 238 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:14.000 For one hour. Now their preparation goes for a toss 239 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.720 as well. So either you could have just said that, 240 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.480 oh no, we are not going to play this match 241 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:23.080 a day before or one day taken a stand. Now 242 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:25.720 you took a stand. After that you're like, okay, we 243 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.000 are not going to play this match. And then you're like, no, 244 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.200 we are going to play this match. You create a 245 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.440 whole lot of confusion. You go there, you play the match, 246 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:38.440 You scrape through. It was a scrape. There is nothing glorious. Yeah, 247 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.360 there was nothing glorious. Were convincing about that win. If 248 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:45.519 that Shahinha free the knock was not there, Paisan would 249 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.840 have struggled. It would have been a very very poor 250 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.879 look on them. And after all this drama, After all 251 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.200 these things have happened, you then go on a press conference, 252 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.919 you basically put a put out a negative picture of 253 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:01.440 anti Pipps, saying that he has. 254 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:07.200 Always favored been towards Indian UH. 255 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:10.559 We have always seen him being there for India matches 256 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.600 and he's not the one who's selecting UH. 257 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.799 And that strat is also overblown. Yeah, in as many 258 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:19.360 Pakistan matches as in India matches. 259 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.600 I like to ask both of you this thing that like, 260 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:24.639 if you look at it, Harristof's comment that he was 261 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.159 trying to just get to. 262 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.799 That say, I say, my PCV president was foolish in 263 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.559 exactly not doing all this drama. No Indian cricketer might 264 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.080 also be able to do it. But what else will 265 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:37.519 he say? 266 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:38.120 Exactly? 267 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:42.399 Why is there that that only screams the board and 268 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:45.240 the players they have no bridge in between, There have 269 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:46.799 absolutely no bridge in between. 270 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.399 Have been used as pawns exactly instead of giving them exposure, 271 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:55.120 instead of you know, tell me something. It's a tragedy, 272 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:59.279 like something that someone like Barbarasam, who's undeniably talented, has 273 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.519 ended up like this twenty twenty three World Cup. 274 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:02.879 What happened? He India. 275 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.519 Like we discussed, Pakistan had a very poor campaign. Barber 276 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.000 was asked to leave or he quit himself. Something o 277 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:10.440 that Shahin was made the white ball captain at least 278 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.360 in T twenty eyes. He lasts one series and then 279 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.440 straight out of the blue, Barber is back. Barber is back, 280 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:19.399 Barber is back. Where another horror Tree twenty World Cup. 281 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.080 He's thrown out Now he's not part of the team itself. 282 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:25.320 You know what will happen if Pakistan crashed out of 283 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.799 the checkup without me in the final Salmon Aliaga will 284 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:32.000 be sacked. Mike Kasen will be sent home. He'll be 285 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:37.039 lucky if he sent home only Yeah, and then and 286 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.840 then Barbara and Rizman will be back, Yeah, only to 287 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.240 last another six months till they come to Sri Lanka 288 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.600 and India for the T twenty World Cup. 289 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.320 Yeah, and then lose that Barber will go. Yeah. I'm 290 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.799 not using maybe could and all that here. It is true. 291 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.759 I know, we all know. 292 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.519 Chaos is the only constant there. It's like a cycle 293 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.120 goes down. It's like a cycle and barber As is 294 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.320 the one checkpoint that arrives genuinely feeling bad for their 295 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.000 players as int Can you tell me that Shine is 296 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.159 any less talented that some of the Indian bowlers maybe 297 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.799 not as talented as butch see any world later. 298 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.759 Don't be bullying. He's batting saving Pakistan at the more. 299 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:14.600 Exactly would love to have. 300 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:21.679 Without Shine. Imagine what would have happened during the India 301 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.600 match and the U match. It would mean disasters even more. 302 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.399 But the whole point, like you said, the whole thing 303 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.000 is that instead of focusing on like maybe three years ago, 304 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.799 we would have talked about barbarism, Mahmaduzwan and China Jafri 305 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.000 in a very different light. Why because they pulled out 306 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.559 a great win against India. Okay, But now when I 307 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:47.559 was talking to Sabia today, I said that now when 308 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.159 you look at it, that defeat feels more of a 309 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.440 fluke because India had a bad day and Pakistan were 310 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:54.679 lucky to capitalize on you. 311 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:56.960 That is what it all boils down to. It was 312 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:57.559 nothing else. 313 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.480 You're talented players, the talent that you have, Like you 314 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.759 look at a team like Afghanistan. Yeah they did not 315 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:05.840 make it to the Super six, but the kind of 316 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.799 talent that is being like that is being produced in 317 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.600 that in that country, right now it's probably amongst the 318 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.159 world's best. And the fact is that they are still 319 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.039 they have a lot of chaos within themselves, a lot 320 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.840 of politics and whatnot, which we don't usually go into. 321 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.039 But the fact of the matter is their players get 322 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.200 so much exposure. They play all around the globe and 323 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.960 when it comes to the team, there is so much unity. 324 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.480 There's stability also, stability that coach Jonathan trot I, I'm 325 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.399 not sure whether he lost kill t twenty World Cup, 326 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.039 but he might, yeah, because for all the good work 327 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.639 that he has done. Mickey Arthur that day during the 328 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.159 I think Barber during the Pakistani imaged tweet it, I 329 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:45.919 can't understand why Barber is not part. 330 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:46.360 Of this team. 331 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.080 So a coach comes in Pakistan, triget, he has a 332 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.679 plan and then by the time the next but by 333 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.320 the time the sacking happens, that is scrapped. The same 334 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.879 with the boat chiefs. Also, a boat chief will have 335 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:01.240 a plan, He'll call for some state team twenty tournaments, 336 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.039 appoint big names as coaches, but that that plan is crapped. 337 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:06.599 It happens every two years. 338 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:09.079 It's a cycle that you know, the these changes, that 339 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:11.519 coaching change and all that it doesn't even happen in 340 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.240 you know, Okay, okay, it happened six years ago. 341 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.480 The next one is happening now. It all happens in 342 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:16.400 one after the other. 343 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.440 The coach goes, a captain goes, a boat change about 344 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:20.319 president changes. 345 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:27.759 It's cricket does not have an era they have. I 346 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:32.400 was actually surprised that was standing there next to both 347 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:35.039 these men because from what I know or some of 348 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.599 the reports that I heard, his chairmanship of the Powistan 349 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:43.359 Cricket Board ended with him being forcefully picked out from 350 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:44.240 the office. 351 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:47.240 And thrown up, and for him to go there be 352 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.079 standing there. It is a little bit of a united 353 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.200 against one common image. Yeah, maybe that is the case. 354 00:17:54.279 --> 00:18:01.640 Anty Pycraftft has gotten so much heat and I think 355 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.640 for a long period of time, I think these referees, 356 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.720 the match officials don't get a lot of light. We 357 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:10.920 usually make fun of them while we're watching the match 358 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.240 and whatnot. But Antipikroft has been the main headline of 359 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.559 this asia. Antiparcraft can do some ads in India, I think, yeah, yeah, 360 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.519 one credit ad with that is it. 361 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:26.720 If is listening right now, it probably ends probably the 362 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.279 hand that. 363 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:32.319 Is the script is there right, So this is what 364 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.599 at the end of the day, like when when you 365 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.039 look at the Asia Cup. I mean we have talked 366 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.799 about the quality, the quality we expect now I have 367 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:45.440 been someone who has seen the likes of use of 368 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:51.599 Yuhana not that old also, but yes, so these guys 369 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.039 coming in and giving a fight to this Indian team 370 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.960 and that it was a very even battle and you 371 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:00.799 could always expect that tension. You know what will happen, 372 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.839 what will happen in the next I think the last 373 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:05.519 time we saw it was the twenty twenty two World Cup, 374 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.839 right in that that game in Melbourne. Apart from that, 375 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.400 there has been nothing there is you look at Paisan, 376 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:17.079 it's actually just become it's become a circus. And unfortunately 377 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.960 these players have been their faces have been painted with 378 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.279 color to make make them look like clouds exactly, and 379 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:24.200 that is sad. 380 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.000 And at the end of the day, focusing so like 381 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.200 if you look at it, hardly any one of the 382 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:31.200 coaching staff for the player itself, are getting the chance 383 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:32.559 to talk about their perform ways. 384 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.279 They are so occupied the entire. 385 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.480 Handshakes and are you or the controversy is that they 386 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.519 are not even being able to talk about it, so 387 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.720 that only screamski this is going, this graph is going 388 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.200 nowhere for them, and whatever happens is this Sunday match, 389 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.240 if they again end up talking about oh, this is 390 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:51.599 not right, this is so against the sportsman spirit. And 391 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.720 if they again going to lose by eight wickets or 392 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:56.799 some ninety runs or something that we have again the 393 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:58.039 cycle repeats itself. 394 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:01.759 No, So for me, I would say something that it 395 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:06.680 might be a little controversial, but the whole thing. 396 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:12.920 Is that I am, or the national platform is I 397 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.440 am someone who always believes that we should not mix 398 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.880 politics with sports. Right away, I panned for saying this 399 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.759 in a couple of yeah, that is fine, I'd rather. 400 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.799 I'd rather take it off because for me, sports always 401 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:32.200