WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.639 Teen thirty two dot Org. 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:11.279 KCAA is your CNBC News affiliate where the station that 3 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:13.400 gets down to business. 4 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.039 The views and opinions expressed by individuals on the following 5 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.440 program do not necessarily reflect those of the network, Guys 6 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:27.079 Guy Radio and its platforms. 7 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:36.600 It's Guys Guy Radio. Here's your host, Robert Manny. 8 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.920 Welcome to Guys Guys Radio. This is your host, Robert Manny, 9 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.679 welcoming you to the show where men and women can 10 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:47.119 be at their best and everyone wins. Guys Guys Radio. 11 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:51.799 We're here to inform you, inspire you, empower you, and 12 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.479 get you to think, feel, and who knows, maybe even 13 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.960 act by virtue of the journeys, stories, experiences and insights 14 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.439 of the guests I bring you each and every week 15 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:05.599 to the show, and once again this week is no exception. 16 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.280 Today we're going to talk about acting in Hollywood and 17 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:12.760 all kinds of stuff about the entertainment business with the 18 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:18.000 Hollywood icon legendary actor Eric Roberts, star of movies such 19 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.680 as Stared, Star eighty, The Pope of Greenwich Village, Runaway Train, 20 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.719 King of the Gypsies. Let's see what else. The Dark Knight, 21 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.599 a Batman movie. I think It's My Party, and so 22 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.840 many others. Eric is just an amazing talent. He's been 23 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.719 in over seven hundred and fifty projects in counting, and 24 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.480 he's a really nice guy. And he's written a wonderful, 25 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:46.079 very telling, very open hearted book called Runaway Train or 26 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.719 the Story of My Life so Far. We're going to 27 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.120 be joined by Eric's lovely wife, Eliza, who's his creative 28 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.159 partner and manager, and also Mike Tove, who put together 29 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.239 a project called Yard Sailing, a short film that's on 30 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.159 the festival circuit now. Along with Eric and Eliza, so 31 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.439 a lot to talk about right here on Guys Guys Radio. 32 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:07.920 So strap in and get ready because we're going to 33 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:08.759 have some fun today. 34 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:10.800 It's Guys Guy Radio. 35 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.479 Okay, Guys Guys Radio. It is the interview portion of 36 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.400 our show, and today's guests are one of Hollywood's most 37 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:22.120 fascinating and enduring couples. Eric Roberts has appeared in over 38 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.000 seven hundred and fifty films and TV projects, are an 39 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.520 Academy Award and Golden Globe nominations, and build a career 40 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:33.759 unlike anyone else in entertainment. Alongside him as actor, casting director, producer, 41 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.400 and creative partner Eliza Roberts, who's on waivering support and 42 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:41.680 perspective have helped shape one of Hollywood's most remarkable love stories. 43 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:44.599 And we're also going to meet filmmaker Michael Toe who, 44 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.919 along with Tom Logan, created and developed Yard Sandling, which 45 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:50.080 I just watched today for the second time, a short 46 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:54.560 film featuring Michael, Eric, excuse me, and Eliza. And today 47 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.800 we're going to discuss Eric's candidate and compelling autobiography that 48 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:03.960 I just finished. It's called Runaway Train, book that explores fame, family, addiction, redemption, resilience, 49 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.639 and the power of second chances and his ongoing legendary 50 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:11.599 actoring career, along with Eliza's perspectives and Mike's journey to 51 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.520 getting a filmmate in Hollywood in these crazy days. So 52 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.319 welcome the three of you. Welcome, Mike, Welcome, Eric, Welcome, Eliza, 53 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.719 the guys, Guys Radio. I'm so thrilled to have you here. 54 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.280 I'm not used to having three juggling three at a time, 55 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:28.400 but we'll make a go of it. So Eric, before 56 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.960 we got on the air, Eric, you mentioned that Eliza 57 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:34.400 had urged you to run to write Runaway Train. Why 58 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.599 now and why is the title Runaway Train. 59 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.680 Well, there is no why now, because it could be 60 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:44.360 why anytime, Because for years the people said to me, 61 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.120 when you're you gonna write your book? And I've said 62 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.759 for years, I'm not writing a book. And then and 63 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.360 then all my friends are coming to me, when a're 64 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.319 you gonna write your book. I'm not writing the book, guys. 65 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.840 And then and then publishers started calling me, when are 66 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:58.039 you going to write a book. I'm not writing a boat. Guys. 67 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.960 My wife comes to me and goes, when you're writing 68 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:01.319 a book. 69 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:03.560 Now you're writing the book. 70 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:06.879 So he said to her, will you help me? And 71 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:09.599 just what do you mean? I said, well, I'm going 72 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:14.080 to embellish. I need help because I knew I would. 73 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.199 So I asked an editor and I wrote a book. Well, 74 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.519 it took me two years to write the book. I 75 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:23.759 did not name the book. The publisher named the book 76 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.240 because they said your life is a Runaway Train. 77 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.639 And of course that's an Academy Award nominated film that 78 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.600 you were in and you got a nod for Best 79 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.040 Actor in that. I believe we're best supporting our best actor. 80 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:38.279 You and John Voyd were together. 81 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:40.800 He got a nod for Best Actor. I got a 82 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:42.040 nod for Best Supporting Act. 83 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:43.519 Here You Go and a great film. And I also 84 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.360 watched that one with my son. He said, I want 85 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:50.199 to watch that again. Oh, I love that fantastic. He's 86 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.319 got really good taste. He's thirteen. So Eric's also been 87 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.759 a star of Popa Gruner's Village, one of my all 88 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.360 time favorite movies with Mickey Rourke and Eric Dark Knight, 89 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.000 and Star eight and so many other projects. I believe 90 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.399 obviously over seven hundred and fifty. So you started out 91 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:07.639 in New York and I think we're around the same age, 92 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.360 even though you look a lot better. But we were 93 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.959 in the Upper West Side of New York City back 94 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.279 around nineteen eighty or so, and it was very different. 95 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.720 You weren't used to hang out at Cafe Central. I 96 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.079 remember there was a place called Ruel's on Columbus Avenue, 97 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:22.480 and I don't think people remember that the Upper west 98 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.720 Side was nowhere back then. Tell us about your experience 99 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.920 back there and how it shaped you for future performances. 100 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.560 Well, when I got hip to the Upper west Side, 101 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:36.560 it was nineteen seventy six. Okay, buy an entire roundstone 102 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.040 for forty thousand dollars that had water and no electricity, 103 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.600 and it was like that, and you could buy these 104 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.439 whole buildings for no money that had nothing in them, 105 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.120 and he had to redo them and everybody was doing that. 106 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.279 He's haventy six, seven, eight, nine, eighty one and two, 107 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.720 and by eighty two it started to get hip and 108 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.480 by eight five, eighty seven, eighty eight it was the 109 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.920 place to be. You know, I just love the other 110 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.399 web side because it had it had the park, but 111 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.720 it was a little bit away from the action. But 112 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:09.959 then it became the action, so. 113 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:17.560 I left. Now, you've experienced extraordinary highs and lows along 114 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.199 your career. Looking back, what period of your life was 115 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:22.800 the most difficulty for you to write about? Because I 116 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:24.959 have to tell everybody out there, first of all, read 117 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.680 this book. It's the best autobiography I ever read, because 118 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.319 it's so from the heart. You just opened up and 119 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:32.720 let it out there, and there's things like WHOA, I 120 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.120 don't even Eliza, were you surprised at some of this 121 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.720 stuff that was that came out during the writing process 122 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:38.519 a little bit. 123 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.519 And that's kind of fun because when you're married for 124 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.839 a long time, you're like, wow, do we know all 125 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.399 the stories new? And then to learn a couple of 126 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.480 new things or just new details. 127 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:48.920 Was great. 128 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.439 So yes, I was surprised. 129 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.319 Like a great a great face she made one day 130 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:58.480 shows you what you robbed a drug store. That was 131 00:06:58.600 --> 00:06:59.160 kind of fun. 132 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.079 Now you draw on in your acting career. I forget 133 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:04.800 the name of the technique you mentioned in the book 134 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.680 where you know you can make yourself cry. You think 135 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.360 about something that happened earlier in life, and you had 136 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.120 such a tough childhood because you were getting it from 137 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:16.040 both sides, your mom and your dad. How how did you, 138 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:18.560 first of all, how did you get through that? And secondly, 139 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.360 how do you draw off of that those experiences to 140 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:22.800 make you such a wonderful actor. 141 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:29.240 Well, thank you so much for all those kind words. Well, 142 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.920 I thought I invented method acting because I'm eight years 143 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.839 old and I realized I could make myself cry by 144 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.480 thinking of something that would make me cry. And so 145 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.879 I thought I invented method acting. And and I and 146 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.839 I and I told all the older kids about it, like, oh, guys, 147 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.439 I've got a great plan, and I would tell everybody 148 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:50.560 how to do it, and and and I and I 149 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.720 thought it was mine up until I got older and 150 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.839 I found out it was just sence memory, and it 151 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.920 had been patented by many people many decades before my birth. 152 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.680 But I didn't know that, and so I kind of 153 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:08.040 looked at myself when I got hit to that, I 154 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.639 kinda I kind of realized I was a born actor 155 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:14.360 and and I just wallowed him it. 156 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.040 Well, that sense memory. I remember while I was watching 157 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.160 popa Grienwish Village the other day, there's a scene early 158 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.720 on where Charlie and Paulie get fired from the restaurant 159 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.759 and and Paulie's giving Charlie a hard time, and he's 160 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.800 oats and he's got the two bottles of Remy there, 161 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.879 or the bottle of Remy and his jacket. And at 162 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.519 the end of the scene, you there's a shot of 163 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:39.519 him and there's a little tear welled up in his eye. 164 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.240 Do you remember that and what what if so, what 165 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:44.559 did you draw on to to bring you that emotion? 166 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.559 Because I read like, oh, he's got he's giving Charlie 167 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.600 a hard time, but there's some shame there. 168 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:55.320 Well, that's the point you have to You have to 169 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.440 let the audience know that your character does know better 170 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:04.120 or else on givable and if they're unforgivable, they're they're 171 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:09.759 they're not umbraceable, and and Pauli was such an f up. 172 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.039 You had to embracing or you had it discarding, and 173 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.639 I was hell bent on making him very embraceable. 174 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.799 Now, I remember reading that you had a hard time 175 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.159 kind of pushing through your vision for Paulie, and I 176 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.960 admire you because in a lot of roles, you you 177 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:25.960 have a vision for how you want to play the 178 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.080 character and you're very committed to it and you stick 179 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.480 to your gun. So that's great. Now with Paulie, you 180 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.360 got some pushback because you made the character more a 181 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.159 little bit more a feminine, a little weaker than I 182 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.080 don't say a feminine in a bad way, but in 183 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.519 like a less masculine traditional It wasn't a macho guy, 184 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:44.240 and you had the perm and everything. And then there 185 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.360 was also you and Charlie would walk arm in arm 186 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.440 And I'm an Italian from New York City and I 187 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.720 know the village and I lived back there. But that 188 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.799 was cool that the way that you did that. What 189 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.519 was your thinking around that, because I know from reading 190 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.120 your book that Mickey had some type of issues with 191 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.399 that kind of behind the scenes, like he didn't know 192 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.480 if he really was buying into the way you were 193 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.320 attacking the role. Yet it worked perfectly. 194 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.720 Yeah, he. He was a big help by the way. 195 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.039 He was not a hindrance at all. You know, make 196 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.759 Make Make Mick was a team player for me in 197 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:16.159 that role. 198 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.080 It was the first director who wasn't right. 199 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.039 Yeah, the first the guy that brought into to direct 200 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:24.159 the movie originally did not agree with my portrayal. He 201 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.120 thought it should be much tougher as is written, and 202 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.840 blah blah blah. And I tried to reason with him 203 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.399 and said, no, but that's been done a lot, and 204 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.120 I want to play something different that we all know about. 205 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.000 And we all we all go, oh my god, yeah, 206 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.159 I've like seen that well and uh, and he didn't 207 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.840 want me to do it, so uh. They brought in 208 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:51.519 a another director, Shot Rosenberg, who directed a great movie. 209 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:53.960 The book was very good also. I don't know if 210 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.559 you had a chance to read the novel, but it's 211 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.159 a really good story, well written. 212 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:59.679 The book is one of my favorite books. It is 213 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.919 fair fantastic and it's exactly like our treenplay. We're very 214 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.879 honest with the book. We're very we're very loyal to 215 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.639 the book because the book kicks ass dude. 216 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.440 Now, out of all your roles, what what one when 217 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.960 you think back and immediately say this is that was 218 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.559 my That's it, that's my number one. Do you have 219 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.639 one or they like babies where you kind of love 220 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:20.960 them all in different ways? 221 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:25.600 Well, uh, I've got, I've got. I made many movies, 222 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.799 so I have many favorites. King of the Gypsies, Aby, 223 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:35.200 Runaway Train, It's My Party, Love is a Gun, Purgatory. 224 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:36.840 Those are my six favorites? 225 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.600 Really? Okay? Uh? How come you choose them? You have 226 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.519 them right at the tip of your tongue there, what's 227 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:44.000 what's the what's the thinking? 228 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:48.759 Because they're they're o my brain's tip because I'm asking 229 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.480 this question a lot, but also because they they all 230 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.519 change my life. Those parts, all those parts change personally. 231 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.799 Now as working actors, you and Eliza and Mike, it's 232 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.720 so busy out there, there's so many roles. Is this 233 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:05.480 is this? What do you think? What do you think 234 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.039 of what's happened to Hollywood where it's not as centralized anymore? 235 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.159 That there's so much, so many more, there's a need 236 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.159 for stories. There's so many more films and TV shows 237 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.080 being made. I mean I guess it's great for a 238 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.720 guy like you, But how do you navigate that and 239 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:20.440 is it a good thing? And how do you pick 240 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.919 and choose because you've got so many roles and I'm 241 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:25.679 sure you haven't lined up from like Eliza's got them 242 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:27.480 lined up for you between now and the end of 243 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:27.799 the year. 244 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.120 I want to I want to interject something at the 245 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.200 top of that question. You called us working actors. We 246 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.440 called our school Working Actor. 247 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.519 Okay, fantastic. Where is the school. 248 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.440 It's right here, it's you're looking at it. 249 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:47.240 Well, you teach. You teach every Saturday here in La Okay. 250 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:52.919 And also we do a lot of coaching and stuff. 251 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:55.519 So and we call it working actor because it's also 252 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:59.240 a double entendre besides the actual work as an artist. 253 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.639 We teach the business, the realities of the business, and 254 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.039 you know just how to filter through the advice you 255 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.919 get from your agents and from other friends, and what 256 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.960 our view is of how to do this job. 257 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:17.080 Okay, guys, guys radio, My special guests are Eric Robberts, 258 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.480 Eliza Robbers and Mike Tobin. Forgive me, Mike, We're going 259 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.559 to get to you. The reason I've been focused more 260 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.399 on Eric and Eliza now, because they're going to have 261 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:25.679 to jump at some point in the broadcast, and we'll know. 262 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:27.919 That's great because I'm just enjoying it. 263 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.440 So I love you, Mike. 264 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:31.519 Thanks. 265 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:32.759 I love you guys too. 266 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.919 Now, Eliza, you have so many different roles, whether it's 267 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.360 manager of Eric and he sounds like he could be 268 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:43.679 a handful casting director, actor and mom and really kind 269 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:47.320 of the son and the solar system of your family. 270 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.279 Is there one of those roles that you enjoy more 271 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:50.639 than the others are all equal? 272 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:55.120 Well, I mean, obviously the mom and grandma thing is 273 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.720 just huge to the two legged creatures and also the 274 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.639 four legged creatures or various different kinds of animals Finns 275 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:08.840 and whatever. But you know, centrally, I'm I'm an actress 276 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.720 and and everything else kind of stems from there. So 277 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.399 casting was sort of a natural outgrowth of that, even 278 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.320 though it's not viewed that way or didn't used to be. 279 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.600 And and then managing Eric was, as you say, it 280 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.240 just it just seemed like we should bring this in house. 281 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.200 There was there, it was nobody had the sensitivity. It's 282 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.799 also just a lot you can't expect that of somebody, 283 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:34.039 and there's so many layers to managing an artist because 284 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:35.840 a lot of it has to do with, you know, 285 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:38.480 how they're feeling. A lot of it is psychology, a 286 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:42.960 lot of it is emotional, and you know, there's just 287 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:48.200 it's it's a very holistic approach. So but I acting 288 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:49.159 is my thing. 289 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:53.360 Got it? You know, the entertainment industry it's often celebrates 290 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.120 success but at hides struggles. Eric, what do you what 291 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:01.000 do you hope that readers experience from your experienperiences from 292 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.039 drug addictions and recovery. What do you want the readers 293 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.000 to take away from this from your story? 294 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.080 Well, many many things. But but since you brought up 295 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:18.480 the the drug addiction to to let people know there 296 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.039 are second chances that you can start over, and you 297 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.639 can start over even better than you were before because 298 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.919 you're older, you know more, you have more, you've experienced more, 299 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.360 you understand yourself and uh, and you stop lying to 300 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.720 yourself at about at about thirty five thirty eight, you 301 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.360 finally get tried to line to yourself and you stop. 302 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.440 You just stop. When they get to go what was 303 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.080 they doing? And and you and you realize that you 304 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.559 were but you didn't know it when you were in 305 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:51.519 it but once you're above it and once you see it, 306 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.960 it's just an asset to understand. And then if you 307 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:59.600 have somebody, then then then you can share it and 308 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:02.559 you from it and you get oh yeah, and you 309 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:06.519 cannot repeat yourself because that's that's that's the pitfall. We 310 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.720 repeat ourselves because we think we can get away with it. 311 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.919 Now you can't. You can't that. 312 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:13.960 Now. I'm going to assume that a lot of this, 313 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.279 a lot of your personal struggles came from your family struggles, 314 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.480 and both of you really had tough family situations at times. 315 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.600 How did you manage to get through that? And how 316 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.320 do you manage to put that into your work in 317 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.679 a constructive way? Because to me, you are nobody can 318 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.559 be you Eric or Eliza based on your experiences and 319 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.919 a lot of it I think comes out your personal 320 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.759 experience come out through your work. That by design. 321 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.000 I'm gonna let you answer that, but uh, I just 322 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.200 have to say that that that that question. Everybody has 323 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.799 their story. Everybody has an issue to deal with or many, 324 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.720 and it's how you how you do it that that 325 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:57.879 makes your winner or not. And my wife is my 326 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.799 whole understanding of myself help. I saw myself through her 327 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.319 for many years after. I can see myself from myself 328 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:10.160 and she was very kind to me, and I apparently 329 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.079 needed that because it altered me and it was it 330 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:16.200 was fun to do. 331 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:17.680 Do you want to add anything, Eliza to that? 332 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.759 Yeah, I you know, that's that's really true. Kindness is 333 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:27.920 like huge. Alice Miller wrote a book, well, many books, 334 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.079 but The Untouched Keys, and she explores whether trauma is 335 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:36.960 necessary in order to be creative and why some people who've, 336 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.559 you know, had some kind of abuse in their childhood 337 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:45.640 become serial killers and some people are fine. No one's fine. 338 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:50.640 But she explores that, and I really think it's a 339 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:56.279 matter of really starkly questioning what you're going for. Some people, 340 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.319 for instance, become parents because they want to boss someone around. 341 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.400 It doesn't come afterwards. It's not like your parent. And 342 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.480 then you find yourself bossing these kids around. That's kind 343 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.440 of your drive. So I think we all have to 344 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:13.400 be really honest with ourselves about our drives. And in 345 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.680 that sense, you know, and that drive comes a lot 346 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:19.920 from how you process the stuff that happened in early 347 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:24.319 childhood and what you're still trying to do even though 348 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.640 it's you know, it's not fixable. You can't you can't 349 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.519 turn the clock back. You can't choose a different family 350 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.640 when you have to figure out what path that set 351 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.839 you on, and that will really affect how you play 352 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.559 your characters, what characters you play, whether you screw up 353 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.519 your whole career, in your life and your relationships. I mean, 354 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.039 it's just a matter of really taking an honest look, 355 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:49.119 not at the people who influenced you yourself. 356 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.519 Now, Eric, you passed on a couple of big roles 357 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.400 earlier in career. In your career, like Jesus, you're going 358 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:57.799 to work with Scorsese, and your manager talked to you 359 00:18:57.799 --> 00:18:59.119 out of that, and I think there was a few 360 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.119 others mentioned in the book, and then you had an opportunity, 361 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.119 I think, to work with Tarantino. It didn't work out 362 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.319 exactly the way you want it, but obviously he's interested 363 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.200 in you. Who are the folks that you want to 364 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:13.200 work with? Now, I mean, you've done it all, you 365 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:16.200 must have some like Okay, I still haven't gotten that one. 366 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:17.720 I still haven't worked with this person. 367 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.640 Well, I hate I hate I hate naming people because 368 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.480 if you name one, you know you leave out three, right, 369 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:30.000 But Tarantino and I have a date that's that's yet 370 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.160 to happen, and we need to make it happen. 371 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:34.920 I think. 372 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.720 I like to see him work with Nancy Myers. See 373 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:45.480 I mean that's like whole polar opposite end. But I mean, listen, 374 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:49.160 there's some fabulous directors coming up, you know, just coming 375 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:51.559 up through the ranks. There's there are It's true, there 376 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.759 are so many. There's so many times we go to 377 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:55.839 the movies that we see something on TV and I 378 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.839 go nuts, and he's like, I want to work with them? 379 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:02.079 Who are go that guy, that guy, that girl. 380 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:03.839 I got over with them. We got to do it. 381 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.039 Whoever's doing Paradise for instead of Reach and we are 382 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.319 friently with Sterling K. Brown. I mean, there's just it's endless. 383 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:11.240 There's a lot out there. 384 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:16.559 Yew As a Hollywood couple, obviously, Eric, you've been like 385 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:19.880 a chick magnet for forever, and I think from what 386 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.079 I read that you kind of took advantage of that 387 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:24.920 for quite some time. And now you're with your rock 388 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:27.640 for many, many years. How do you make it work? 389 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.359 Because Holly, you know, people see you when they think 390 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.799 you're the role and they just they just want to 391 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:35.119 you know, bag a star type of thing. How do 392 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:36.000 you manage all of that? 393 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.240 I gotta be honest with you. The undoing of it 394 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:42.119 all is the hard part. Because I had like I had, 395 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:43.839 like I had like a dozen seward this is in 396 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.759 a dozen cities, and a lot of good stuff lined 397 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:51.079 up for my for my fun and travels and uh, 398 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:54.319 and it had to stop like overnight. And that was 399 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:56.400 hard because I had a lot of phone calls to make, 400 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:01.440 and it was it was difficult. So the first six 401 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:04.440