WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.199 My mind. When you were pretty we got some water 2 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:32.320 or something growing on it out here. I can't go. 3 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:34.600 I know I that my vendor light came on, and 4 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.280 I just happened and went and see the thing running. 5 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:39.960 Across the yard A good sight man or something. It 6 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.479 looked like to me. I don't know what it was, 7 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:43.200 just the right across the yard. 8 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:45.640 It means to be a big foot leaning against the 9 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.000 tree in a wooden area. 10 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.799 I mean, I have seen plenty of people with big feet, 11 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:51.159 but not big foot. 12 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.960 Three lines and rush. You see about seven and seven 13 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.159 and a half foot tall. Just watch looking back at you. 14 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.600 That kind of looks like a wolf, but not like 15 00:00:59.640 --> 00:00:59.960 a neighbor. 16 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.039 The dog pick these stores for what they are and 17 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.519 hopes that maybe if it's out there. 18 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.760 Then show me yeah, and says he might have caught 19 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.400 the mythical STUPA cont record you're terrorizing his chickens. 20 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:13.040 Looks like a grunt and a knock on. 21 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.120 I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people 22 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.120 to want to make bigfoot he quote unquote monster. Welcome 23 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:34.200 to ecb ro O Bigfoot Radio. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, 24 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.920 welcome to another episode of ecbr or Bigfoot Radio also 25 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.760 on Bigfoot Zone Ecbro tonight, we got a special guest 26 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.879 with us tonight. I'm excited to have with us. Please 27 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.760 everybody give a warm welcome to Chadwick. Gails. Chadwick. How 28 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:52.239 you doing? 29 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.079 But too bad? How you doing tonight? 30 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.959 Dan? Uh? Not mad? Not mad myself. I'm actually working 31 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.000 on a few little minor things here that I'm trying 32 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:07.920 to get situated. All right, there we go. Let me 33 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:13.039 get my screen back on here, so hmm, all right, 34 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:22.400 it's not working. That might work, all right, Oh no, 35 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:23.719 they an't what I want to do. I'm trying to 36 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:25.479 get up face. There we go, trying to get our 37 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:29.759 faces back on the screen. So all right. First of all, 38 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:32.360 I know we talked about trying to get you on 39 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.319 here before we're doing one of our round tables in 40 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.680 the past, which that didn't work out. I got me 41 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:41.560 scheduled and postponed. So I'm actually glad that had you 42 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.560 on here because you know, we've been doing some small 43 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.919 talk here and there. I've been learning a little a 44 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:50.560 little bit more about you as uh. You know. One 45 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:52.960 of the most recent things that's actually been intriguing to 46 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.439 me is the three toe tracks that you found and 47 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.919 we're going to get into that very shortly. And for 48 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.879 the record, I do want to throw it out there. 49 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:05.840 A lot of people, a lot of the viewers might 50 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.680 not know what we're talking about, but I'll try to 51 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.159 give them a rundown and a little bit of you know, 52 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:14.960 feedback on that. And again I'll let you touch base 53 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.639 on that too when we get into that. But for 54 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:21.479 those who are listening and tuning in already, uh, Chad Work. 55 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.960 He's been exploring and researcher for some years. And actually, 56 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.919 before I actually go any further, I should let Chad. 57 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.159 Do people call you Chadwork or Chad or does it 58 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.759 do you have any specific preference. 59 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.000 It doesn't matter whatever. 60 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:43.000 Okay, I for some reason I find it either to 61 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.800 just say Chad. But so yeah, But before I go 62 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.879 any further and get into any other details, I was 63 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.199 wondering if you could give me and the audience a 64 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.159 little bit of a of a background on you. What 65 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.360 got you started in this whole research? You know, what 66 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.319 started you in this thing? What sparked your interest to 67 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.120 look into the paranormal in the cryptan research. 68 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.360 Well, I've always been into the paranormal, ever since I 69 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.279 was a little kid. I mean, I can remember going 70 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.240 to the library and elementary school and I'd go straight 71 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.160 for the Unexplained Mysteries books, the big Foot books, Luckness 72 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.720 monster books. So I mean, like I said, I've been 73 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:33.800 into it ever since I was young, right, And uh, 74 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.879 you know, you get go through life, things tend to 75 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.439 slip to the back of your mind. You go to work. 76 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:46.800 You know, oh, man started a family, had kids. You know, 77 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.279 things started to get boring. You know, you go to work, 78 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:57.160 you come home, you watch TV, go to bed, get up, 79 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:01.160 go to work, come home, watch TV a bit. I 80 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.639 just got tired of the mundane rat race. And you know, 81 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:09.399 one day at work, I started listening to podcasts because 82 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.160 I'd always listen to music. I work at the lumber 83 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.399 mill and I ran a big cutoff saw for ten years. 84 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.519 I'm a lumber grader. Now I got a promotion and stuff. 85 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.480 But you know, it's a pretty boring job running that 86 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:26.120 saw all the time, just cut boards constantly, and I'd 87 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.800 listen to music while doing that. One day I found 88 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.279 these things called podcasts. You know, I was like, oh, 89 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.759 what's this stuff? So, you know, me, I automatically go 90 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.680 to the paranormal podcast and start listening to them. When 91 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.519 I started hearing about these people that go out and 92 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.560 look for bigfoot, look for ghosts, look for UFOs, you know, 93 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.319 and I was thinking, you know, I could do this. 94 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.279 I could definitely do this. So I bought some equipment 95 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.519 and I started. Because my wife and I were already 96 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.720 avid hikers. We love to be out in the woods 97 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.519 and outdoors, and you know, so I got some equipment. 98 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.240 One day, I just went at it and started going 99 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:10.199 out in the woods all the time. Actually, what really 100 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:15.360 kicked it off from the beginning is one night, it 101 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.759 was a Saturday night, around ten o'clock. I went out 102 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.000 to my truck, I think to get I take a 103 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.399 backpack with me to work with, like snacks and stuff 104 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.000 like that. And I think I went out to my 105 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.079 truck to get my backpack or I went out the 106 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:32.160 door and something just caught my eye. I looked up 107 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.920 in the sky and there was a huge orb of light. 108 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.079 I'd say it was probably about one hundred and fifty 109 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:40.319 yards up in the air. It's kind of hard to 110 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:42.519 tell a distance for stuff like that, but it wasn't 111 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.120 up real far, but it wasn't real close either. And 112 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.639 this thing, man, it was crazy. It would get real bright, 113 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.439 then it would dim down and go out, Then it 114 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.120 would late back up get real bright, then it would 115 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.680 dim down and go out again, and then it started pulsing. 116 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:04.120 It would like it changed colors a few times. It 117 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:08.279 was pretty wild. My wife and I were videoing it 118 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:12.000 with our phones and everything, and through her phone when 119 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.800 it would dim down to go out, through the phone 120 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:18.160 on her camera or the camera on her phone, it 121 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.199 looked like it would it would explode into like thousands 122 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:24.439 of tiny stars. But we kind of think that's just 123 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.839 how like, you know, the camera technology wasn't very good 124 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.199 back back in the day. That was probably what on 125 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.600 twelve years ago something like that. Yeah, but it was 126 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:37.199 crazy because it would them down to go out, and 127 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.720 it looked through her phone it looked like it exploded 128 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.279 into thousands of tiny stars. And that thing, man, that 129 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.720 thing was crazy. It sat there for well over an hour. 130 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.120 And across the street from our house is our garage, 131 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.519 and behind our garage is a big hill. Top of 132 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.160 that hill is a huge cemetery, like it's pretty old. 133 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.079 There's graves in the one far corner from the seventeen hundreds, 134 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.240 and that thing was floating of the cemetery. So we 135 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.759 got our kids. They were young at the time. They're 136 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.519 all adults now, but we got everybody in the car 137 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:12.920 and we went up in the cemetery and was setting 138 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:14.759 up there watching it. That's where we got like most 139 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:18.519 of the video and everything from. So we were sitting 140 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.839 there for a while watching, you know, and it would 141 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.560 do its thing. It would start flashing, it would dim down, 142 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.600 go out, light back up, changed colors a few times, 143 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.399 and it stayed in the same spot. It didn't like 144 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.839 float around or nothing. It just sat in the same 145 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.799 exact spot. It was crazy. And then all of a 146 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:39.200 sudden started to slowly drift off, you know, and we 147 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.559 tried to follow it, but we ended up losing it 148 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.279 and it was it was gone. 149 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:45.759 Huh. 150 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.799 That thing was amazing, real, real quick. 151 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:52.559 I listened to everything you're saying, this couple of things 152 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.440 that slightly off subject. I got to touch base on 153 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:59.799 a couple of things. It's kind of funny you were 154 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.240 to talk about how you got married and had kids. 155 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:03.039 Life got boring. 156 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.519 Did I hear that? 157 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:11.960 Right? Is the white near by hearing all this? She's 158 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:17.759 right here, Okay, she's just not flapping you on camera too. 159 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.519 That's I don't mean like with our families. I mean like. 160 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.559 It just that's the way. Yeah, that's the way I 161 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:25.879 heard it. And I was like, I'm gonna pick on 162 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.799 the one I gotta get. 163 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.360 Actually, she does this stuff. 164 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.039 With me, sweet, that's awesome. 165 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:38.639 Yeah, the day I found those tracks, I was blowing 166 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:42.600 her phone up like crazy, because I actually took the 167 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.879 day off from work just to go out and see 168 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:47.840 if I could find anything, because the place I went, 169 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.759 I heard there were a few sightings up there, like 170 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.320 I heard through the grapevine, you know, And so I went. 171 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.440 I get like a lot of paid time off from work, 172 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.000 So I took a sick day and I went up 173 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.559 looking around and he was still at work, and she 174 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.879 worked in Morgantown, West Virginia at the time, and I 175 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:09.960 was blowing her phone up like you're not gonna believe 176 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.039 what I found. I was sending her pictures and videos 177 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.039 of it and stuff. And when she got off work, 178 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.320 she come up and met me up there, and he 179 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.200 and I started casting. You know, we cat made past 180 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.639 of the tracks and all that too. But yeah, she 181 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:28.639 gets into it. She goes out with me sometimes. 182 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.000 Very cool talk about the tracks. Now are you referring 183 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.320 to the tracks that you've recently found. 184 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.120 Yeah, the three two tracks. 185 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:38.080 Yeah, yeah, So quick question before he was saying it 186 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.519 that I want to touch a base on that real quick. 187 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.080 Are you familiar or do you know who Ken Gearhart is? 188 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.000 Yeah? Yeah, I don't know him, but I know who 189 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:51.159 he is and I know of him. 190 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:55.279 Yeah right, okay, well Ken Gearhart, and of course everyone 191 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.279 joked around and said his twin brother is Lyle Blackbird 192 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:02.360 because they both wear a black lother hat. I've gotten 193 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.519 to meet the both of them a few times, and 194 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.000 you know, they're great guys. They really are. They're very 195 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:08.960 gap and laid back, chilled people. 196 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.200 It seemed like they'd be pretty cool guys. Yeah. 197 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:17.440 Yeah, So I've been in recent contact with Ken, and 198 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.679 you know, I was like, Ken, I like to get 199 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.039 your expertees in your opinion on something, and you know, 200 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.039 and I'm doing this while I'm at work, when I'm 201 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:29.080 supposed to be working, but I'm on my phone whoever 202 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:33.399 I talk to, and so I'm I get get in 203 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:39.039 contact with Lyle and excuse me, not Lyle Ken, And 204 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:40.720 so I was like, I want to send you some 205 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:45.480 images to some pictures that were recently discovered and found 206 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:49.799 up in Pennsylvania, and I gave him. I gave him 207 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.279 the backstory on this to the best of my ability. 208 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.240 And I also went on to tell him, Ken, this 209 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.159 is not the first person that showed me these exact 210 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.840 same tracks from Pennsylvania. The other individual his names. I 211 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.000 didn't give him no names, but I'll throw it up there. 212 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.200 The guy's name is Donald Donald, who found the same 213 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:12.600 exact identical tracks over one hundred and seventy seven miles 214 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:19.080 west from where you're located. And yeah, And I was like, 215 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.480 when I first saw your tracks, I thought I was 216 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:24.759 seeing almost the same thing. And I know for a 217 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.919 fact that you and this other gentleman don't know each 218 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:32.000 other man, which was what the cool thing about this was. 219 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:36.360 I was like, Okay, so you know, I've been ever 220 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.320 since I saw your tracks. I became more intrigued more 221 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.279 ever since seen these tracks from the other individuals several 222 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.840 years ago, and I was like, what the heck are these? 223 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.960 You know, all kinds of different thoughts ran through my head, 224 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.840 especially the last time I was up in Pennsylvania, Marionville, Pennsylvania, 225 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.440 at the Forest County Big For Festival. I mean, I've 226 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:00.159 had big people sharing personal encounters and stories from Bigfoot 227 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.279 to the thunderbird, you know, stuff like that. And and 228 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.879 for some reason I got stuck on after seeing these tracks. 229 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.320 I got stuck ar thinking could he be some very 230 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:13.120 large bird? 231 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:13.600 You know. 232 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.399 I was like, then again, you know, then again I 233 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.919 said no, they can't be no big bird, no bird. 234 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:24.960 And you know, because I like these see as much 235 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.720 as I didn't want to admit to it, it's like 236 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.559 these seemed very reptilia. You know. That's the other thing 237 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:32.480 I ran through my head. 238 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:36.879 These sounder kept saying the whole common when we were 239 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.600 up there casting, and she said that's what she kept saying, 240 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.600 is they look reptilian to me, is she would not 241 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.679 go anywhere else, you know, because when I was when 242 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.480 I kind of thought was like bird, like a pterodactyl 243 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.840 or a thunderbird or something exactly. 244 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.200 That's what was running through my mind. And then all 245 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.960 of a sudden, you know, yeah, okay, carry on, I'll 246 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:57.720 let you finish it. 247 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.120 Oh well, yeah, that's up. I was thinking. I was like, well, 248 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.559 I don't know about a bird because it had the 249 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.879 humanoid looking heel, and she said reptilian and it just 250 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.799 stucked I was like, yeah, yeah, that makes a lot 251 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:11.279 of sense. 252 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.320 Yeah, exactly, it's. 253 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.360 Weird and has that humanoid looking heel and because you 254 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.600 know how like a bird, but it usually has that 255 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:21.200 skinny toe pointing. 256 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.679 Back right exactly like I mean, I've seen all kinds 257 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.960 of big birds. I've seen turkeys. And by the way, 258 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.600 John John said that he was told by another individual, 259 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.360 and I know the individual. I met the individual a 260 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.840 couple of times, kept saying, oh, they're not bird, they're 261 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.200 not this and that, and he said, oh no, no, 262 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.559 he did say that they were those are EMU tracks. 263 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:46.279 And I told John said, no way, I said EMU tracks. 264 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:49.600 And does the dude ever look at it looks like 265 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:51.639 a turkey track just with fat or toe. 266 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.120 That's We've been on a TV show and that's what 267 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:58.240 they said on the TV show that they were EMU tracks, 268 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:03.399 And nah, research EMU tracks don't get anywhere near fourteen 269 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.759 inches long. These tracks were fourteen inches long. Yeah, a 270 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:12.320 six only has a six to seven inch track, and 271 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.120 there's things six foot tall anyway, you know, it's. 272 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.159 Like right, And of course when you look up those tracks, 273 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.320 don't they look like a turkey, Like a big fat 274 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.120 turkey track. You know. Yeah, to me, they're a technical 275 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.279 Turkey track with just fat you know, the toes a 276 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.519 little fatter some of them. You know they have. 277 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:33.279 Someone backwards, but but they don't have a heel either, you. 278 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.200 Know, exactly right. 279 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.399 Yeah. I got a couple of comparisons I did on 280 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.759 my phone of you know, the tracks I found, and 281 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.879 then Ray decided an EMU track and they looked nothing alike. 282 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:50.600 Note, so I doubt he's listening right now. I'm gonna 283 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.360 throw his name out there, mister Jarney Freeman. These are 284 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.519 not EMU tracks. Get over yourself, okay. I mean, I 285 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.399 like you, dude, but you know they're not what you 286 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.159 think they are. I know you want to just to 287 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.480 everybody from having these possible theories. But they're definitely not 288 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.559 EMU tracks. I can guarantee you that. 289 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:10.840 I definitely no. They look nothing like tracks. 290 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:17.080 Yeah what even? So back to Lyle, I'm excuse me, 291 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.159 I can playing Lyle. I don't know why I say left. 292 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.639 Back to Ken Gearheart so I've been in recent contact 293 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.720 with him. I've shared him every track that you had 294 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.960 of these. When I asked you for the trackway, if 295 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.759 you have a picture of a trackway, or a video 296 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.440 when you set you those. It was for him because 297 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.679 he wanted to see the trackway. It will give him 298 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:40.480 more definition and more insight on these. Yeah, now, after 299 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.360 he viewed these, Now, I'm gonna tell you, even before 300 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.639 I say anymore, even even after he viewed these, they 301 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:53.080 gave his honest expertise, his honest expert opinion on this. 302 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:58.039 It's still got me scratched my head. It's like that 303 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.360 would make more sense. But at the saint time, I'm 304 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.879 still scratching my head because part of this does not 305 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:07.279 make sense. So now he mentioned and I looked it 306 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.000 up for myself. I did a little bit of research. 307 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.519 I have shared some stuff with me. But he's telling 308 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.400 me that these are alligator tracks, even though he knows 309 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.720 alligators are not native to Pennsylvania. But now he went 310 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.000 on to say this, and I looked this. Actually, illegally, 311 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:31.759 alligators have been released and has been spotted in the 312 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.720 state of Pennsylvania. He mentioned twenty times, but when I 313 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:38.119 looked it up, I read twenty five times throughout the 314 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:42.079 state of Pennsylvania. Now, of course my wife was saying 315 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:42.640 that too. 316 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.680 When we found him. He's like, they remind me of 317 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.599 alligator tracks, and I was like, right, but alligators, what. 318 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:56.279 They have actually five actually technically five. But and what 319 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.200 with what chen were sharing with me? He said, when 320 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:01.400 you were looking at the trackway that you have in 321 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.160 the sand, you said, you could almost see the fourth 322 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:08.559 toe in the one particular track, you know. And because 323 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.400 he was talking about how how the trackway clearly you 324 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.359 can see is leading and going directly towards the water 325 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:19.480 like an alligator would d yeah again, yeah, okay, that 326 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.680 started to make some sense to me. But what blew 327 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.559 my mind is like, okay, I've seen your picture. You 328 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.599 have a track, you have a track with a measuring 329 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:33.160 tape where the track is nearly twelve inches long. Okay, 330 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:37.079 most average alligator tracks, even though a very large alligator 331 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.920 might be six to seven eight inches long. That's pushing it. Maybe, 332 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.519 I don't know. That's the I mean, that's what got 333 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.279 me puzzled. I mean, these tracks, yeah, they would almost 334 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.880 resemble an alligator, except the consecutive with free toes. Now 335 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.400 he mentioned and I had to look into this myself, 336 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.680 but it's a free is three toes calmon for alligant. No, 337 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.119 it's very unheard of, really, But he went on to 338 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:08.759 mention that it could be a rare deformity, you know which. Okay, 339 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:10.599 I could get that. I can get that. 340 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:14.119 Yeah, I got that too. But here's the crazy thing though. 341 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.359 When I found this, there were two separate trackways, right, 342 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.000 and they come up out of the water and up 343 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.400 the bank right beside each other, like you know what 344 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.000 I mean, Like two creatures walked up the bank and 345 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.880 then walked all over the place. Plus we could tell 346 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:35.839 they were bipedal tracks, they weren't quadruped, right, And the 347 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.000 one yeah, the one trackway was different because the left 348 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:43.079 foot had crooked toes, like the toes were deformed. 349 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:46.400 Ah, I have to find some of the. 350 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.599 Pictures that send them to you too. Yeah. 351 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:57.359 Yeah, Well, two different creatures or whatever made the tracks. 352 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:03.039 There were two different specimens there that that, right, Yeah, 353 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:03.799 it was pretty well. 354 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.480 I watched you most recent one of your recent video 355 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.599 clips where I guess your vehicles parked up. You can 356 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:13.720 see it through the tree in the woods. Your vehicles 357 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:15.640 parked up off the road and then you're down by 358 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.200 your down in the woods by the creek. Is that 359 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.839 with a standbar? Is that the same area you found 360 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:21.599 those tracks before? 361 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.559 Yeah, that's the same place. That's the place where I 362 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:25.359 found them at. 363 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:30.480 Yep, that's very interesting, very interesting, because, yeah, I can't 364 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:32.440 wait to get up there and see this area, find 365 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.240 exactly where it's at, because I'm see, I spent some 366 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:37.880 time up there and you know, getting to know a 367 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.279 couple of different areas up there. I'm just curious to 368 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.240 know exactly how far well, well, let me ask you this, 369 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:50.039 just out of curiosity, how far is that location from 370 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:56.279 Ohio Pile anywhere near there? About? 371 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:02.279 How far? About four miles really, yeah, high piles about 372 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:06.240 I'd say about, yeah, three four miles up the mountain 373 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:06.799 a little way. 374 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:11.119 Yeah, okay, Yeah, because I've heard some story of reports 375 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:14.319 from the Ohio Pile area, and me and my old 376 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.559 brother and I dated, we we went to Ohio Pile 377 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.240 when the girl I used to date. We went up there. 378 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.880 We got brought up there from a lady that we 379 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.680 met that has property up behind Ohio Pile, and we 380 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.319 investigated the property because she has some weird stuff that 381 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:34.279 happened up there. She took us there. But yeah, there's 382 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.200 some very interesting stuff because I've heard some other similar 383 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.720 stories of that area. So yeah, that's actually interesting that 384 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:42.359 he said that. 385 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.640 See here's here's something pretty cool about this too. The 386 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:51.319 place where I found the tracks, Yeah, the sand bank. 387 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.160 And then if you go across the creek and up 388 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.960 that mountain side about two miles there's a people I 389 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.720 know that lived back there. The contented me and said 390 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:06.720 they both spotted a werewolf creature on their property. Really, 391 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.279 and they've had me up there for almost a year 392 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:18.000 now investigating. Yeah, and then two miles through the woods 393 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.799 from where I found those tracks where their property is. 394 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:22.359 Wow. 395 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.400 And I was thinking, like, if you come up and 396 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:29.680 want to do an overnight investigation, we might do it 397 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:30.960 up there on their property. 398 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:36.000 Okay, Yeah, that's interesting because I mean I'm all about that, because, 399 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:38.160 like I said, I know, John was trying to tell 400 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:40.039 me it probably is not worth your trying to do 401 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.359