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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to OUCH. Was that a Ghost? This podcast may

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<v Speaker 1>contain graphic material which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener

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<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised, is advice to me? Now that we

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<v Speaker 1>covered that, here's your host list.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Ouch of Zeta Ghost. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>true crime case which I haven't done for a while

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<v Speaker 2>and people have been complaining about and I listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>read the comments. Most know the show Dexter, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a show about a forensic blood spatter analyst working for

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<v Speaker 2>the Miami Police Department helping solve murders and at night

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<v Speaker 2>he was living a double life as a vigilante serial killer,

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<v Speaker 2>which he justified because the people Dexter would kill were

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<v Speaker 2>murderers who escaped justice. Which Dexter was a freaking amazing show.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked how they ended the original Dexter, but I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get down with I think I made it through

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<v Speaker 2>the first episode and I'm like, yeah, I can't. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like prison Break, like it was ended on perfection. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>try to reboot it. So this case is an example

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<v Speaker 2>of when a TV show may have been a blueprint.

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<v Speaker 2>So the person in this case is known as the

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<v Speaker 2>Dexter killer. This disturbing case. Unlike Dexter was not fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by punishing those who had gotten away with murder. His

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<v Speaker 2>ambition seemed to have been inspired by, or fueled more

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<v Speaker 2>so by filmmaking. September of two thousand and eight, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three year old Giles Tetral was on a dating app

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty of Fish. I didn't know that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian dating app. By the way, I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of my friends have used it around here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. That's why I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they can be everywhere. I just didn't connect

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<v Speaker 2>it with Canada. So Giles matt to Shena, a five

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<v Speaker 2>ot six pretty blonde woman. They messaged back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, then they made plans to meet up

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<v Speaker 2>in person to go for dinner in a movie. Shina

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<v Speaker 2>gave detailed directions, not an address, for their in person meetup.

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<v Speaker 2>He followed the directions and instructions, and Shina told him

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just leave the garage door open for you and

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<v Speaker 2>you can just go right in through the garage. Giles,

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<v Speaker 2>excited he was running a little bit late. He followed

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<v Speaker 2>the instructions and they ended at a garage so he

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<v Speaker 2>entered this dark garage in Edmonton. He looked for the

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<v Speaker 2>door that was part of the instructions to go into

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and that was when Giles was ambush from behind.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked at he saw it as a man in

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<v Speaker 2>a black and gold hockey mask. Giles was told to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the ground and the man had tape ready.

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<v Speaker 2>He put it over giles eyes, and Giles heard a

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<v Speaker 2>jingle in sound and that's when he like snapped into

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<v Speaker 2>survival mode. He ripped the tape off, jumped up and

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<v Speaker 2>he saw this man holding a gun. Giles lunched at him,

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed for the weapon, only to find it was plastic.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was like, all right, now I get a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ready to rumble. So Giles tried to swing

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<v Speaker 2>on the man, but he was weakened because the masked

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<v Speaker 2>man had sapped Giles with a stun baton, so it

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<v Speaker 2>took away some of his strength. It turned into a rumble.

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<v Speaker 2>Even weakened, Giles managed to get out of the garage,

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<v Speaker 2>only to get pulled back in. Then this bad ass

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<v Speaker 2>got out again, and this time he managed to get

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<v Speaker 2>to his car and drove out of there. He later

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<v Speaker 2>said he thought it was a robbery or a mugging

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<v Speaker 2>that went wrong. When he got home, he checked for

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<v Speaker 2>Sheena's profile on that dating website again, but it was deleted,

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<v Speaker 2>so he didn't report it, which could be an ego

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<v Speaker 2>thing too, you know what I mean, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>something which is nothing to be ashamed of, but some

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<v Speaker 2>people might be embarrassed by that. So about a week later,

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Altinger, who was thirty eight. He seemed like a

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<v Speaker 2>really nice guy. He loved riding motorcycles. He was on

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<v Speaker 2>that dating app Plenty of Fish, and he matched with

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Jen. They messaged back and forth and

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<v Speaker 2>then again they made plans to meet in person. He

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<v Speaker 2>was given instructions to go to a location, not directions,

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<v Speaker 2>just instructions, So Johnny hopped in his red Mazda to

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<v Speaker 2>drive to the location. So before he got there, he

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<v Speaker 2>this woman he met online, and they were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the address and he was like, yeah, she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give you an address. She gave me instructions and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, yeah, that's kind of weird. So he just

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<v Speaker 2>forwarded the instructions to his friends, the directions, so Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>got there a little bit early, about six thirty pm,

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<v Speaker 2>and he called his friends like, I got there and

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't there. There was a guy there who was

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<v Speaker 2>filming a movie, and he said that Jen would be

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<v Speaker 2>right back. About an hour later, the friends got an

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<v Speaker 2>email from Johnny saying she's home. Now I'm heading over again.

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<v Speaker 2>He Johnny's brother then received an email saying, quote, Hey, there,

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<v Speaker 2>I've met an extraordinary woman named Jen who has offered

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<v Speaker 2>to take me on a nice long tropical vacation. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be staying in her winter home and ka phone number

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<v Speaker 2>to follow soon. I won't be back in town until

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<v Speaker 2>December tenth, but I will be checking my email periodically.

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<v Speaker 2>See you around the holidays, Johnny. This email didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>sound like Johnny. You know, if you get a text

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<v Speaker 2>or an email from someone, you're like, eh, is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And his brother was like super weirded out about this

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<v Speaker 2>whole email. His friends got like the same emails, which

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<v Speaker 2>was strange for everyone. Johnny was responsible. He wouldn't just

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<v Speaker 2>like up and take off like this. His friends went

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<v Speaker 2>to Johnny's apartment, they broke in, and what they found

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<v Speaker 2>only heightened their concern. They found food left out like

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<v Speaker 2>someone was going to be right back. His passport still there,

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<v Speaker 2>which if you go in too Costa Rica you might

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<v Speaker 2>need that. His luggage was still there, and his motorcycle

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<v Speaker 2>was uncovered, and if you're a motorcycle guy, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>just leave your bike uncovered and just take off. They

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going to the police and they reported the concern.

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<v Speaker 2>They also let officers know that Johnny had given them

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<v Speaker 2>the directions that Jen had sent him on plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>fish on how to get to her house. Police followed

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<v Speaker 2>the directions and there they found a garage, not a

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<v Speaker 2>garage attached to a house, more of like a separate

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<v Speaker 2>structure that the owner rented out apart from the residential

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<v Speaker 2>building like almost shed like, so it's not connected to

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<v Speaker 2>the house. So one person lived in the residential well

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<v Speaker 2>rented there, and one person rented the garage. Police learned

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty nine year old Mark Twitchell was renting the

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<v Speaker 2>garage space as a film studio. A little about Mark Twitchell.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born on July fourth, nineteen seventy nine, in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>From a young age, Twitchell knew he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a filmmaker. He went on to study radio and television

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<v Speaker 2>arts at the North Alberta Institute of Technology. He graduated

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<v Speaker 2>and then got married to his first wife. They divorced

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<v Speaker 2>after four years. In two thousand and five, Mark was

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<v Speaker 2>poking around on a dating website and there he met

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<v Speaker 2>his future wife. Within a few years, they were married

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<v Speaker 2>and had a daughter. By two thousand and seven, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>now with the wife and daughter, was on his way

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<v Speaker 2>to make his dreams come true filmmaking. He directed a

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars fan fiction film titled Star Wars Secret of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rebellion. I've never seen star I've seen the family

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<v Speaker 2>Guy Star Wars, so that must count. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>a prequel to Star Wars episode four. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, Mark Twitchell, who was a Dexter superfan, shot

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<v Speaker 2>a horror film called a House of Cards. He was

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<v Speaker 2>shooting it in that rented garage at Edmonton. It was

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<v Speaker 2>about a man who uses online dating to lure me

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<v Speaker 2>into a kill room. So the police went and they

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<v Speaker 2>found Mark. They got his phone number and they called

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<v Speaker 2>him and they were like, have you seen this guy

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny that's been around here? Have you seen his car?

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<v Speaker 2>The red Mazda and he was like no, and the

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<v Speaker 2>police were like, can we search the garage you're renting

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark was like sure. He was super helpful, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll meet you at the garage. And when Mark got there,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, this padlock is wrong, this isn't mine.

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<v Speaker 2>And the police were like, okay, well you're renting it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like can you just break it to get in then,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like sure, so he did. The police

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<v Speaker 2>inside found a table in the middle of the floor

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<v Speaker 2>and on the side of it what appeared to be blood,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark told the police how he makes films and

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<v Speaker 2>fake blood is used in it a lot. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's made with corn syrup and this mixture takes a

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<v Speaker 2>long time to clean up after and he's still in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of cleaning it all up, which I mean

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<v Speaker 2>seems plausible if he's a film guy and you know

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<v Speaker 2>he's just a young guy, married, new kid. He was

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<v Speaker 2>brought in to be questioned at the station and he

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<v Speaker 2>claimed never have heard of Johnny. He was helpful, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess through the whole interview he kept trying to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about his Star Wars fan fiction movie and the

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<v Speaker 2>police were like, yeah, but we're talking about this missing man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, that's kind of weird. But they found Twitchell

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<v Speaker 2>pretty believable when they rewatched the tapes. At some point,

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<v Speaker 2>like they brought him in multiple times to speak to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It was voluntary that he came in and Twitcher was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I bought this red car off a guy. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>like hmm. So they asked him to come back in

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<v Speaker 2>for more questions and Mark told them how he was

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<v Speaker 2>in his car and a man walked up to him

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, hey, buddy, you want to buy a car.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy told Mark, this is Mark's story that

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<v Speaker 2>he met this rich lady that's buying him a new car,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark bought the car for forty dollars. This red

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<v Speaker 2>car was at his friend's house, which the car was

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<v Speaker 2>the same car as Johnny Altinger's. But basically they said

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, he said yeah, that cars now parked at

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<v Speaker 2>my friend's house. And then the police went and spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to the other people that worked on the film with

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Twitchell and they were like, how much fake blood

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<v Speaker 2>did you guys use and they were like, h we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't use any, so they were like hm. The alreadies

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<v Speaker 2>confiscated Mark Twitchell's laptop in his car, and they went

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Twitchell's house and spoke to his wife about

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<v Speaker 2>their suspicions, and thankfully she divorced him soon after after

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<v Speaker 2>like she learned that they were looking at Mark for

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<v Speaker 2>a man's disappearance, which they were already like sleeping in

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<v Speaker 2>separate rooms, like you know, because Mark who lost his job,

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<v Speaker 2>he never told his wife. He would just leave every

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<v Speaker 2>day like he was going to work and basically living

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<v Speaker 2>off the investors' money for the movies. And this ship

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<v Speaker 2>bag was like having an affair with an old girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would just spend like all day on social

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<v Speaker 2>media talking about how he's like Dexter, and he'd be

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<v Speaker 2>making all these you know, costumes, which whatever if you're

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<v Speaker 2>into making fan fiction costumes. But he's a next level creep.

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<v Speaker 2>So when his car was done being processed, the car

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<v Speaker 2>that had Vanity plates DRK GEDI, so like Dark Jedi Loser,

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<v Speaker 2>they found blood that matched Johnny Altinger's. Mark Twitchell was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested three weeks after Johnny's murder, and on the forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight Hours episode about him, they said that he peede

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<v Speaker 2>his pants while being arrested hah. He was charged with

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<v Speaker 2>first degree murder. The police found in his laptop how

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Twitchell described that somebody got away and while they

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<v Speaker 2>were searching Mark's house, also described in his laptop was

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<v Speaker 2>this mask, this black and white mask that he used

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<v Speaker 2>in his writings on both attacks. So the police went

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<v Speaker 2>on the news it said like, if you were the

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<v Speaker 2>man that was attacked, could you please come forward because

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<v Speaker 2>a man was killed after being lured, which sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing that happened to the first person. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's when Giles saw on TV that that mask was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that he saw in the garage that night,

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<v Speaker 2>and he realized that he survived a murderer, no robber.

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<v Speaker 2>There was extensive media coverage of this case. Everyone had

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion, and during the trial, Mark Twitchell did admit

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<v Speaker 2>to killing Johnny Altender. They believe that Mark Twitchell ambushed

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Altger, bludgeoned him, and stabbed him to death because

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<v Speaker 2>after he attacked Giles, Twitchell realized that the taser takes

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<v Speaker 2>too long to take effect, so he needed to pivot

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<v Speaker 2>and when Johnny came, he used a lead pipe when

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<v Speaker 2>he attacked him and then stabbed him and ended up

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<v Speaker 2>cutting up his body, and then he unsuccessfully tried to

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<v Speaker 2>burn his body, and then he just put him into

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<v Speaker 2>trash bags the pieces of him and dumped him down

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<v Speaker 2>a sewer. And then Mark Twitchell broke into Johnny's house

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<v Speaker 2>and sent those emails out. Twitchell tried to make it

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<v Speaker 2>seem like the whole thing, luring the people to the

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<v Speaker 2>garage was a publicity cent for that movie he was making,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up killing Johnny Altinger in self defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout the trial, it was brought up many times how

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<v Speaker 2>Twitchell was interested in Dexter and how he appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>identify with Dexter Morgan, the vigilante serial killer on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>On his laptop, police recovered a del file, a forty

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<v Speaker 2>two page document titled SK Confessions in SK Confessions which

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<v Speaker 2>the SK many believed to stand for serial killer serial

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<v Speaker 2>killer Confessions. It's written in first person and the author

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<v Speaker 2>describes his evolution into becoming a serial killer, which he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't but he tried to. Mark Twitchell was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that that was just a creative writing exercise, a script,

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<v Speaker 2>and a famous line from this document being quote, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>how Cony is This story is based on true events.

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<v Speaker 2>The names and events have been altered slightly to protect

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<v Speaker 2>the guilty. This is the story of my progression into

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a serial killer. Lother In this document it told

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<v Speaker 2>of a man that got away and how another man

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<v Speaker 2>was murdered. That sounded a lot like what actually happened

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<v Speaker 2>in real life, including the timelines, evidence, victims accounts like

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<v Speaker 2>they all matched up. And when Giles came forward to

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<v Speaker 2>tell the police what happened, they pretty much already heard

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<v Speaker 2>the story, but four because it was exactly like what

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<v Speaker 2>the Scake confessions described, which is how they assume how

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny's death and aftermath occurred according to the SQ confessions.

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<v Speaker 2>And He's still like, oh no, no, that was just

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<v Speaker 2>like a creative writing exercise, and Gile's like, no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like what happened. The jury also learned about a deleted

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<v Speaker 2>writing on his laptop titled quote a Profile of a Psychopath,

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<v Speaker 2>in which the author described being a compulsive liar in

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<v Speaker 2>living a dark inner world a self analysis Peace on Behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't get to read this one, but they did

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<v Speaker 2>hear about it. On April twelve, twenty eleven, Mark Twitchell

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<v Speaker 2>was convicted of the first degree murder of Johnny Altinger.

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<v Speaker 2>It only took the jury five hours to find him guilty,

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<v Speaker 2>and he received a life sentence without the possibility of

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<v Speaker 2>parole for twenty five years after his conviction. After his conviction,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitchell tried appealing, citing the extensive media coverage. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>quote the media attention surrounding mccas was so extensive, so blatant,

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<v Speaker 2>and so overtly sensationalized that it's unreasonable to expect any

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<v Speaker 2>unsequestered jury to have remained uninfluenced by it, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>the judge's instructions in the charge. But this never went anywhere, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 2>By twenty thirteen, Twitchell bought a TV for his cell

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<v Speaker 2>and he was able to catch up with Dexter episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>and in twenty seventeen he signed up for an inmate

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<v Speaker 2>dating site uugh Giles Tetralt made several media appearances related

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<v Speaker 2>to his experience, including Dateline, NBC forty eight hours, just

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<v Speaker 2>to name a few, and if you are interested in

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<v Speaker 2>more of this case. He also wrote a book titled

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<v Speaker 2>The One That Got Away, The One Who Got Away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Sorry. Mark Twitchell was eligible for parole in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, but thankfully he's still incarcerated at Bowen Institution,

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<v Speaker 2>a medium security facility in Alberta, and even as recent

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<v Speaker 2>as twenty twenty six he applied to leave to go

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<v Speaker 2>see his parents, but the parole board was like no,

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<v Speaker 2>So thankfully he's sitting there and hopefully rotting for a

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<v Speaker 2>very very very long time. He's such a shitbag and

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at all his pictures, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know something about how he poses you. He just has

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<v Speaker 2>a very kickable face. But yeah, he's a complete piece

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<v Speaker 2>of shit. And I hope that his ex wives and

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<v Speaker 2>his child could you know, manage to get through heal

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<v Speaker 2>the best they could after dealing with this fuck face,

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<v Speaker 2>this kickable fuck face, This guy Johnny lost his life

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<v Speaker 2>for what freaking nothing, But yeah, that's the case of

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Twitchell. I appreciate you guys all for listening till

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