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<v Speaker 1>Weird and Wade.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back midnight viewers to Father Them Alone's weekly round up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Father Alone and sitting this episode out is miss

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<v Speaker 2>Ripley Jean. She's mythed that I wouldn't sneak her into

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<v Speaker 2>the movie theater because this week we are taking a

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<v Speaker 2>look at a film that you can only see in cinemas.

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<v Speaker 2>Go see it in cinemas. Go see everything in cinemas. Everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, before we get to those four of the

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Persuasion. It was Comic Con weekend, and as such

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<v Speaker 2>there were news and trailers of plenty, So let's do

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<v Speaker 2>a quick breakdown and recap and such before I turn

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<v Speaker 2>it over to the regular show, which is a crossover

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<v Speaker 2>with the Culture Cast and the Projection Booth. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a new trailer for Tron Aries, the latest disappointment in

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<v Speaker 2>the Tron franchise. Let's lose Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde

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<v Speaker 2>and add Jared Lido. What could go wrong? In the

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<v Speaker 2>plus column, it's got Evan Peters. It's about time he

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<v Speaker 2>hit the big screen. Speaking of which, why hasn't there

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<v Speaker 2>been a Jimmy Cagney biopic starring Evan Peters? It's right

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<v Speaker 2>there anyway, Instead of going into the fascinating world of

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<v Speaker 2>the computer, the programs are going to come into our world,

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<v Speaker 2>this time, still on the bleeding edge of innovation. There

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<v Speaker 2>over at the Tron movies. Actually in the arena of

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<v Speaker 2>film soundtracks, they seem to be three for three when

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<v Speaker 2>Carlost Daft Punk and now nine Inch Nails. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>the actual band nine Inch Nail, and so far it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds spectacular. We got new footage of the Alien Earth

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<v Speaker 2>television series from Noah Hally, the guy behind the Fargo

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<v Speaker 2>television series. Lots of excellent whalan utanni goodness, with a

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<v Speaker 2>shock white haired Timothy Oliphant being super weird. Also, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw some pulse rifles. I cannot be more excited for

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<v Speaker 2>the show, especially what with the upcoming Predator flick. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of that, I did not watch the new Predator Badlands trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing my best to learn no more than I

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<v Speaker 2>already do, which includes a wayland Utwanni android. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you're as excited as I am about the new movie

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<v Speaker 2>and want a refresher, tune in Friday for Yaucha Fest.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where HP and I are looking back at the

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<v Speaker 2>Predator series in all of its glory and awfulness. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>the most exciting news to come out of Comic Con

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<v Speaker 2>is that Coyote Versus Acme, a film that Cinema Goooul

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<v Speaker 2>David Zazlev had consigned to Attax right off Hell, is

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<v Speaker 2>getting an official release and an official theatrical release in

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<v Speaker 2>that August the twenty eighth. I told you to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the cinemas. This should be amazing, a live action

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<v Speaker 2>animation courtroom drama with Wileie Coyote, the greatest of the

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<v Speaker 2>Looney Tunes characters, suing the company that sold him all

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<v Speaker 2>those faulty roadrunner catching devices. Will Forte is the star

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<v Speaker 2>perfect and that's everything that interested me in Comic Con

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Slow year, baby, Okay, I'm going to turn

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<v Speaker 2>you over to the main show now, but before that,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a new sponsor. It's the Latinaverian Tourist Board.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to run that ad and after you'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>all about fantastic four First Steps. See you all Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening, verbs Victor von doom PhD. Here, you're once

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<v Speaker 3>All Hell Doom.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to a special crossover episode between the Projection Booth,

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<v Speaker 4>your Culture Cast and Midnight Viewing. I'm your host, Mike

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<v Speaker 4>whitehow on me? Once again is the host of the

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<v Speaker 4>Culture Cast. Mister Chris Stashu, Well, one of my.

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<v Speaker 5>Favorite characters from Superhero dumb in general, it's Babylon time.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, all the way from midnight viewing is Father Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>Gentlemen, I invite you to die with your own On.

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<v Speaker 4>This episode, we are looking at the twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>film Fantastic four First Steps, which is actually the fifth

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<v Speaker 4>ree tread in this franchise where we're looking at for

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<v Speaker 4>superpowered beings who protect the Earth or Earth A two eight,

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<v Speaker 4>this time from Galactus, who is not a big gas cloud.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good. There's not a lot of origin story, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's more of a look at the fourth year going

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<v Speaker 4>into the fifth year of the team's existence. And we

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<v Speaker 4>will be spoiling this discussion like crazy. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>haven't seen Fantastic four First Steps, turn off the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Come back after you've gone to see them. All right, Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>what did you think of Fantastic four First Steps? So,

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<v Speaker 4>and what's your history of Fantastic four. I'm very curious

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<v Speaker 4>about that. We talked about that on the Superman episode,

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<v Speaker 4>so a couple weeks later, what's your history of Fantastic four?

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<v Speaker 5>So, the thing is one of my favorite superhero characters period,

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<v Speaker 5>just something about him, And like the portrayal in the

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<v Speaker 5>comic books, I really enjoy the portrayal in the movies.

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<v Speaker 5>I think has been the version that's been more spot

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<v Speaker 5>on in most of them. Has been the thing, at

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<v Speaker 5>least in those Yowen Grufford, Chris Evans, Jessica Alba, Fantastic

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<v Speaker 5>Four movies which I saw. I have seen every Fantastic

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<v Speaker 5>Four movie that has been released in theaters, including Fan

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<v Speaker 5>for Stick, which not many people saw that shit in theaters.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a reason for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you see, because I'm a sucker.

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<v Speaker 5>Now no, no, no, You're a masochist. That's the word

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<v Speaker 5>I would use. I you know. And this is one

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<v Speaker 5>other thing. And Father Malone I think mentioned this when

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<v Speaker 5>we were recording Maybe or Off podcast. Not only is

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<v Speaker 5>the thing one of my favorite superhero characters Read Richards

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<v Speaker 5>think period in terms of Marvel, he is. It's literally

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<v Speaker 5>what if Reid Richards was just like, I'm the world,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the universe, the smartest man, and I could do

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<v Speaker 5>whatever the fuck I want. And he's just like practicing

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<v Speaker 5>genocide and he becomes so smart and his gets so

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<v Speaker 5>much knowledge into his head that his brain and skull

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<v Speaker 5>essentially become like an ancient alien skull. His essentially head

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<v Speaker 5>becomes like conical, his brain grows so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not forget during Civil War whose side he

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<v Speaker 2>was on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's true. I think if you're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 5>Fantastic for movie, this is the right place to start. However,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm saying that in terms of the setting, I

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<v Speaker 5>think in a lot of ways this is marvel going. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't it been nice if we had done a period

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<v Speaker 5>piece with the Fantastic Four in two thousand and nine

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<v Speaker 5>or ten. Look, we'll have that discussion about all that,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure at some point in this episode. But for me,

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<v Speaker 5>I liked the setting. I liked the world that this

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<v Speaker 5>movie took place in. However, this movie was an hour

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty five minutes, and there are parts of this

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<v Speaker 5>movie that drug and the plot of the movie and

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<v Speaker 5>the way that the conflict resolves, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the Deus X Teleporter bridges is just there's some stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't seem as well integrated into the story as

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<v Speaker 5>I was hoping they would be. And there are parts

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<v Speaker 5>of this that I'm like I'm glad that we're doing

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<v Speaker 5>this version of the characters, and there are other things

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<v Speaker 5>where I'm like, I'm a little disappointed that we're doing

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<v Speaker 5>these versions of the characters. And by the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the movie, once we see where they end up going

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<v Speaker 5>with everything, I think I'm hopeful for where the second

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<v Speaker 5>or third steps go. If that's in fact what the

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<v Speaker 5>movies are beyond this one. Who knows if they keep

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<v Speaker 5>the Spider Man naming conventions. I mean, I know John

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<v Speaker 5>Watts was originally going to direct these movies, so I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of wonder if there was a little there is

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<v Speaker 5>naming conventions. But all that to say, I think for

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<v Speaker 5>the most part it's one of the better Marvel movies

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<v Speaker 5>we've had in a while. It shows a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>reserve where other Marvel movies of its similar ilk have not,

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<v Speaker 5>including something as recently as Thunderbolts. But I think at

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<v Speaker 5>times it maybe plays it a tad too safe. And look,

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<v Speaker 5>it's twenty twenty five. We know where the MCU is

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<v Speaker 5>effectively headed. In the next couple of years. We're effectively

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<v Speaker 5>at almost at year twenty of this. I'm assuming by

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<v Speaker 5>year twenty of this, we will have a whole new

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<v Speaker 5>thing with all new things of people, which is kind

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<v Speaker 5>of what they've talked about and they've alluded to. And

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<v Speaker 5>now seeing that thing at the end of the movie

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<v Speaker 5>is just like it sets in that Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>we're like right back here in like twenty and eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen again effectively. So I enjoyed it. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's plenty for us to talk about in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>the shortcomings of the movie. But I think overall, best

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<v Speaker 5>Marvel movie in a while. Yeah, best Marvel movie in

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<v Speaker 5>the last five years. I don't know about that. There

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<v Speaker 5>have been a lot of decent Marvel movies, if not

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<v Speaker 5>great Marvel movies that have come out in the last

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<v Speaker 5>five years. But in terms of this, to answer the

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<v Speaker 5>initial question, Mike, in terms of seeming a Fantastic four

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<v Speaker 5>thing and my history with it, this is the best

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<v Speaker 5>Fantastic four movie I've ever seen in theaters. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>the distinction that it has over the other three times

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<v Speaker 5>I've been in the theater watching these same characters do

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<v Speaker 5>similar things.

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<v Speaker 2>So and father them alonew about yourself, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in the seventies, I read a lot of Marvel

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid up until about teenage of them, when

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<v Speaker 2>I decided that horror comics were the way to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't have any fealty to any comic book

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<v Speaker 2>company after that, but definitely Marvel as a young kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and Fantastic Four has sort of made for children almost

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<v Speaker 2>And when I was reading comics in the seventies, I

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<v Speaker 2>was effectively just reading the original run from the sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was all of this kind of material that

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<v Speaker 2>ends up in this movie, which is bright and shiny

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<v Speaker 2>and cosmic. Now, I never really had much use for

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<v Speaker 2>the Fantastic Four. I always loved their peripheral characters. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they have some of the best villains in Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is on display here for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time Moleman and who I just I love as a character,

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<v Speaker 2>Harvey Elder. But more than that is Galactis. But more

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<v Speaker 2>than Galactis is the character norn Rad, the Silver Surfer,

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<v Speaker 2>who is one of my maybe top five Marvel characters

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<v Speaker 2>of all time. Just the existentialness of that character, the

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<v Speaker 2>dilemma that he finds himself in, which is fully on

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<v Speaker 2>display here, which I really appreciated. The first Fantastic Four movie,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw was in ninety seven when I got a

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<v Speaker 2>bootleg of the Corman produced flick, which we just reviewed

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<v Speaker 2>over on my show just a few days ago. And

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<v Speaker 2>then obviously the Yowen Griffiths That's how you pronounced that

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<v Speaker 2>it's Welsh friend Griffiths. Those two movies, those were garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>had no expectations for this movie. All the trailers I

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<v Speaker 2>so my expectations were zero. This to me was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best superhero movies I've ever seen, honestly, not

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<v Speaker 2>only the best film for Marvel since Endgame, but one

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<v Speaker 2>upon Superman for making a cinematic comic book, this one

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<v Speaker 2>puts that to shame. This is a fully realized world

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<v Speaker 2>some places. I loved. We always talk when we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about tell us some in the dark side, we always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the economy of those scripts that you said it, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this movie is two hours. This movie it

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe one hour and fifty five minutes. It's wild. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a less than two hour Marvel movie in twenty twenty five, like.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie starts four years in, catches up fucking immediately

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<v Speaker 2>to where we are and gives us an incredible fucking

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<v Speaker 2>it made Sue Storm one of the most powerful and

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<v Speaker 2>interesting characters, whereas she has always been the most underwritten

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<v Speaker 2>and boring Marvel characters. I loved the movie. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have seen it twice. I saw it last night and

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<v Speaker 5>But did you buy the eighty dollars popcorn BOOKT two?

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<v Speaker 5>My, one for eating, one for eating large, if not oversized,

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<v Speaker 2>Eating all of the popcorn on planet Earth, and one

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<v Speaker 5>What about you, Mike White, what's your experience in history

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<v Speaker 4>So I think Fantastic four might have been one of

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<v Speaker 4>move in. I don't even remember how that happened, but

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<v Speaker 4>I remember sitting around and reading an issue of the

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic Four, and I swear it was right around the

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<v Speaker 4>time of the I Ran on the Iran hostage crisis,

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<v Speaker 4>because I remember there was a parody song of Barbara Ran,

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and that was playing on Dick Purtin and I

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<v Speaker 4>very strange memory of that, but yeah, they were some

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<v Speaker 4>of the first folks that I read as far as

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<v Speaker 4>comic superheroes, And like you said about them alone, they're

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<v Speaker 4>perfect for kids. And it's just this kind of candy

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<v Speaker 4>colored world that they lived in, at least back in

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<v Speaker 4>the sixties. And I love this retrofuturism vibe that they

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be. Things like Herbie with the tape deck in

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<v Speaker 4>his head and how he's got different programs on tapes

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<v Speaker 4>and everything. And when you see the Fantastic Car zooming

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<v Speaker 4>through the city, you get to see like a robot

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<v Speaker 4>dog walker or these little tiny cars that they have,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just like, I love this world. I really

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<v Speaker 4>it feels like because of the Fantastic Four coming to be,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe just because of the way that the world

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have the smaller technology. We still are using

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<v Speaker 4>blackboards and things that are very analog, and I really

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<v Speaker 4>like that. I like the look of this, and god,

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<v Speaker 4>it is so different thinking about that Josh Trenk version

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<v Speaker 4>where so much of it just took place in a

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<v Speaker 4>fucking warehouse and it was just dark all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and this we're out in the daylight. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 4>the stuff of Harvey Moulman is pretty bright. Once we

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<v Speaker 4>get down into the subterranean world that he lives in,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some light in there. It's not just dark, dark,

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<v Speaker 4>dark the entire time. And then having Paul what's his name,

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<v Speaker 4>Paul Walker, Walter Hawser, Oh, he is so great. I

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<v Speaker 2>At Johnny, I didn't address you.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so nice having more Sue Storm in here,

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<v Speaker 4>because I really feel like, at least those Tim Story

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<v Speaker 4>movies were so much about Johnny and the Thing, and

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<v Speaker 4>we've got a pretty good amount of the thing in here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's tough. You've got four very strong characters

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<v Speaker 4>and you're trying to balance all of them, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think they do a good job. I really. If anything,

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<v Speaker 4>I think read Richards might be a little bit opaque

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<v Speaker 4>as far as his motivations and things, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's that works well with him. It's almost like he's

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<v Speaker 4>on the spectrum or something, and I'm really okay with that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you I just before we started recording,

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<v Speaker 4>just realized that Johnny Storm is Eddie from Stranger Things.

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<v Speaker 4>Could not put my finger on where I knew him from.

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<v Speaker 4>Really don't get a good beat on Johnny Storm in

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<v Speaker 4>this one other than he's a pretty smart guy, but

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<v Speaker 4>he hasn't given the credit that he's due. And that

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<v Speaker 4>he actually figures out that whole alien language. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 4>happy about that. I thought that was pretty great.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a one point eighty from Chris Evans's Johnny Storm,

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<v Speaker 5>which is perfectly fine though, because again again when people

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<v Speaker 5>get bent out of shape about portrayals in the movies,

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<v Speaker 5>my response tends to be, at this point in my life,

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<v Speaker 5>you've read comic books at any point, there's no one

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<v Speaker 5>there are singular standard bearers of the characters. If we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about like the singular Earth of the comic books

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<v Speaker 5>in the Marvel comics, because like in the Marvel movies,

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<v Speaker 5>there is one more or less decided upon Earth that most,

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<v Speaker 5>if not a lot, of the things take place on.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's plenty of variations on this character. Joseph Quinn's

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<v Speaker 5>character is very different in a I would say an

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<v Speaker 5>updated way, because I'm not sure that kind of character

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<v Speaker 5>would really fly, Like I think he'd be way too

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<v Speaker 5>easy to write in a way that the audience wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>want anything to do with him, and they'd be kind

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<v Speaker 5>of put off by him.

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<v Speaker 2>The Johnny Storm, the Chris Evans Johnny Storm was insufferable,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was Chris Evans, so we put up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you continued that character with anyone else, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be just it would you would you would want to

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<v Speaker 2>murder him basically right exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, and look at what happened to his character

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<v Speaker 5>and what Wolverine and Deadpool. I mean perfect that they

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<v Speaker 5>traded in that, like they made it a point to

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<v Speaker 5>be like, yeah, this guy's kind of fucking turd too,

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<v Speaker 5>but again, like it works for that movie's benefit. Here

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<v Speaker 5>it's this is a softer, more gentle for a gentler time.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this portrayal of Johnny Storm because yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>always portrayed as sort of the hot head, sort of

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<v Speaker 2>showboat of the four, but you know, ultimately what he

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<v Speaker 2>represents is the sort of teenager of the family, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are other aspects to him. I loved that he

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<v Speaker 2>figures out the translation of zen LA's language, the Zenla

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<v Speaker 2>language in this and but at the same time he

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<v Speaker 2>is really annoying, you know what I mean. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>and it's played for laps and everything, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>were living with that guy, you would want to punch

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<v Speaker 2>him all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Well, I'm just glad that the thing isn't

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<v Speaker 4>such a sad sack.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I don't know if they give me

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<v Speaker 2>read look at me, I'm so ugly.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god. The only person that thinks I'm cute is

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<v Speaker 4>a blind lady? Oh god, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean the way it was written back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the way it was written back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no way a woman would find this man attractive.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck you, he would, she wouldn't. He's literally a superhero.

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<v Speaker 5>Bozo's it's self explanatory. Well, you're you gonna tell me

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<v Speaker 5>it's because Natasha Leone has a really deep voice. That

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<v Speaker 5>that's why. It's actually the other way around, Ben Grimm.

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<v Speaker 5>When she opens her mouth, he goes, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to hear that voice.

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<v Speaker 4>She's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, she rained in all her regular Natasha

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<v Speaker 2>Leone here like that. It's not the sort of broad

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<v Speaker 2>from Brooklyn. It's different character.

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<v Speaker 5>My god, n to play less to type than she

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<v Speaker 5>normally does, let's put that way.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love that he's like the one of the

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<v Speaker 4>few that I know of Jewish superheroes, and that he's

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<v Speaker 4>very proud of his heritage, the whole thing, growing up

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<v Speaker 4>on Yancey Street. But it's not like they're overplaying that either.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not at least, Oh, I remember when I was

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<v Speaker 4>growing up over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's instead of yeah, I grew up over there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>nice small thing, and to give him the little taste

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<v Speaker 4>of he's a really good cook and that's his science.

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<v Speaker 4>Johanna can figure out the languages, and Red can do

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<v Speaker 4>all of these calculations. But here's been in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 4>cooking with Herbie.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a fucking hell of a pilot. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about, and how he's always been portrayed

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<v Speaker 2>before is the sad, sack lonely guy who's just lovelauren.

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<v Speaker 2>We get that in one scene. Speaking of the economy

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<v Speaker 2>of the script, it's him watching himself on television and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what he used to look like, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>cut to and what's amazing to me in this was

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<v Speaker 2>it's a shot of a cgi face in a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of a window with a television on it, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can see all the emotion. You see how sad he

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<v Speaker 2>is about this, because that's when he looks over Natas

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<v Speaker 2>Leon and decides to walk away. So that's I got

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. Didn't need him crying about it for

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<v Speaker 2>obscene after seeing I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think, and this is again me just speaking broadly, because

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<v Speaker 5>in the cases of something like Fantastic four or Superman

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<v Speaker 5>or Spider Man or Batman. We have had so many

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<v Speaker 5>retreads of this that we can go, well, they did

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<v Speaker 5>it better and they didn't have to do it, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't feel obligated. Fantastic four once again proves that

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<v Speaker 5>the audience at this point, mind you, maybe not fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years ago. And I understand why they have now proved.

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<v Speaker 5>I think once again, the audience are not fucking stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>The audience knows the audience can do a little legwork

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<v Speaker 5>on their own. And even if we don't have forty

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<v Speaker 5>five minutes of the movie for setup of the origin story,

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<v Speaker 5>which it's there is like a fair amount of setup

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<v Speaker 5>in this movie, but it's not origin story set up,

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<v Speaker 5>at least not of a certain kind. It's an orgin

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly, they give us that fucking like little documentary. It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 5>In this day and age, it's like, instead of showing

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<v Speaker 5>us the whole damn thing, just give us the just

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<v Speaker 5>give it the both points, give us the cliff Notes

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<v Speaker 5>version for fuck's sake, and it works just as well,

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<v Speaker 5>you get away with it. Spider Man did it rather well.

418
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Superman did it rather well, This did it rather well,

419
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:17.079
<v Speaker 5>and they all kind of trafficked in the same thing.

420
00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 5>Like it's not that we don't get the backstory. The

421
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.400
<v Speaker 5>backstories just peppered in throughout the movie, and so it

422
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.599
<v Speaker 5>kind of works better. It doesn't feel so stilted in

423
00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:25.319
<v Speaker 5>terms of the flow.

424
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.119
<v Speaker 4>I think did it the best and kind of started

425
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.480
<v Speaker 4>off this idea of we don't have to show everything.

426
00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Is that Edward Norton Hulk where it was just like

427
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.880
<v Speaker 4>the opening credits, We're going to show you the whole

428
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.519
<v Speaker 4>thing very quickly and then we carry on with the movie.

429
00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 4>We don't have to do the origin story every frickin' time.

430
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:46.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how many times do we have to see

431
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Peter Parker get bit by an radio active spider? I mean,

432
00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that those home movies that they had just

433
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:54.759
<v Speaker 4>went away from all that stuff.

434
00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>How many times have we been to fucking crime alley

435
00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:01.279
<v Speaker 2>for God's sake. What I liked about this opening in

436
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.160
<v Speaker 2>this that little documentary where they give us the origin

437
00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>without giving us the origin, is that that we're at

438
00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>no point do we get to go out into space

439
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and see the cosmic rays hit them and watch this

440
00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>and that habit. Instead we watch them take off and

441
00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:17.319
<v Speaker 2>then we see a ship crash and then the Thing's

442
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.759
<v Speaker 2>hand punch its way out of the craft. That's all

443
00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:22.039
<v Speaker 2>we needed for the origin there. The other thing I

444
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:24.200
<v Speaker 2>loved about the opening is, like you said, it's sort

445
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of bullet points. We get like the greatest hits of

446
00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 2>what they've been doing for the past four years, like

447
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the major missions where the Thing is like hauling a

448
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 2>burning tanker by its anchor chain into a harbor, and

449
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>then Johnny Storm is putting out a fire at an

450
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>electrical plant, And all I could think was, like, any

451
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 2>one of these sequences would be the giant end set

452
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>piece on any of the other Fantastic Four movies up

453
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>until here, and they're just like burning through them at

454
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. The other thing I noticed in that the

455
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>power plant sequence, when there's a crew on the ground

456
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 2>who like salute him, thanks Johnny Storm. The two guys

457
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 2>in front, the one saluting him and the one standing

458
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 2>next to him. That's Jay Underwood and the fellow who

459
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>played the Thing in the nineteen ninety four version, and

460
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>then Alex Hyde White and I think Jessica Stop, I

461
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 2>think her name was those two are reporters later in

462
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 2>the movie. So that was a cool thing that they

463
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't need to do, and they fucking did it, and

464
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it made me very happy. I mean, I just watched

465
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the other one the other day, so it was a

466
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>little obvious to me.

467
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.640
<v Speaker 5>But Michael Bailey Smith played Ben Grimm and I only

468
00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.359
<v Speaker 5>know that because he was the guy who played gigantic

469
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Freddy Krueger in Elm Street five. Remember when it's like,

470
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, royd it out Freddy Krueger.

471
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.519
<v Speaker 5>So I think for me, and look, I'm a little

472
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:40.240
<v Speaker 5>biased because I do like even Moss Backrack in other things.

473
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 5>Obviously the bear and the cooking thing with me was like, okay,

474
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:45.640
<v Speaker 5>like you're kind of trafficking in a little bit of

475
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 5>what he's really known for now. But he's really good

476
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 5>as the thing. But I think to the point that's

477
00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.079
<v Speaker 5>already been made, I think Vanessa Kirby walks away with

478
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 5>this movie and she's amazing. I like that. Again, as

479
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.039
<v Speaker 5>someone who's a fan of the comic books and the

480
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 5>more recent stuff, definitely like the character of Malice is

481
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 5>something that is a big part of her character, especially

482
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.240
<v Speaker 5>in the comic books and I know that she is

483
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.200
<v Speaker 5>has made it clear that is something that she wanted

484
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.759
<v Speaker 5>to bring to the character, and as someone who again

485
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 5>is a fan of that character in the comics, it's

486
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 5>a pipe dream to think that we'll ever get that

487
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 5>in the movies. But at least she acknowledges and understands

488
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.519
<v Speaker 5>that that's an aspect of a character that isn't just

489
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 5>its own separate thing. And she's kind of trafficking that

490
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 5>because she doesn't really take anybody shit in this movie,

491
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 5>which I appreciate. She has a lot of agency everyone.

492
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, she is the founder of the Future Foundation.

493
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yep, which is like so important in my line, negotiated

494
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the treaty with the moment exactly she I don't trust

495
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>anyone up above ground except for Sue exactly.

496
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Everybody has to clear the room before he'll even have

497
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 4>a conversation, right. And it's not one of those I

498
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 4>think you're cute, Sue, so I'm going to talk with you,

499
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 4>because we've seen that in other movies before too, where

500
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.680
<v Speaker 4>it's just the other guys. Is a worn dog for

501
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 4>the hot superhero and sound for Fox's sake, and they

502
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 4>don't strip her down to her bra and underwear in

503
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.160
<v Speaker 4>this movie, either just to show us that she's sexy

504
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 4>or just fully naked, like oh no, yeah, covering the bits.

505
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah.

506
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 5>A rather again, a rather like tame movie. In a

507
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.359
<v Speaker 5>lot of ways. I like that the movie opens with

508
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 5>Sue Storm and read Richard's having just like a genuine

509
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.079
<v Speaker 5>conversation and it and just the two of them talking

510
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 5>about like just life, and there's this kind of the

511
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 5>pretext of the moment before she tells them she's pregnant.

512
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 5>But I mean, I don't like what a refreshing change

513
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 5>from pretty much everything Marvel has been doing up until.

514
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 2>This point, and which make for any for a fantastic

515
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 2>for movie. We finally have characters that are seem to

516
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>genuinely like each other and have feel like relationships, yeah,

517
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and feel like a family. And then I'm completely invested

518
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in they seem to have skipped all of the origin

519
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.240
<v Speaker 2>story bullshit, and this actually does feel lived in, which

520
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>is so important now and.

521
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 6>It's almost like, go ahead ahead, Well, I was gonna say,

522
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 6>they have to be a family, they have to be

523
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 6>a unit because they are put into jeopardy with this

524
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 6>whole thing of Galactus wanting that baby, and if they

525
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 6>weren't a tight family unit, there would be fracks among them.

526
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.440
<v Speaker 4>And as far as I saw in the movie, there's

527
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 4>nobody casting doubt other than Reid Richards because, like I said,

528
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>he's this fucking mad genius where it's just the needs

529
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 4>of the one, the needs of the many outweigh the

530
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.680
<v Speaker 4>needs of the few kind of thing. And I'm just like, Okay, Spock, Yeah,

531
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 4>I gotcha, But he's not going to give up his

532
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 4>child either. They have to be that tight unit. If

533
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 4>it was fucking hot head Chris Evans or Michael Chickliss

534
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 4>or oh god, any of the Miles Teller like, I

535
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't believe that they're Michael B. Jordan. Oh, Jesus Christ,

536
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ.

537
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 5>What a what a nice time that Michael B. Jordan

538
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 5>has had getting far away from that fucking awful movie,

539
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 5>because man to be kill Monger, to be brought back

540
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 5>in that second Black Panther movie, because you were, because

541
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 5>they because you were so good in the first one,

542
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 5>they brought you back in the second one.

543
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Like Kilmager is one of the best characters that they've had,

544
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 4>one of the best villains that the Marvel Universe has

545
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 4>ever had.

546
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 2>That he dies. This is the second character that even

547
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Ben Backrack has played in Marvel that's been really good.

548
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 2>He was micro on the Punisher series.

549
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 4>That's right, Oh, that's right.

550
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he has the thing, plays the character. It's it's

551
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 5>in my mind it's really understated, but I think it

552
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 5>needs to be because I almost feel like everybody gets

553
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 5>out of the way of Vanessa Kirby. But I think

554
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.000
<v Speaker 5>that's important because it's so clear given that again, it's

555
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.799
<v Speaker 5>and the plot of the movie is not made apparent

556
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 5>in the preview, but once gets right, I agree. I agree,

557
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 5>once the movie gets rolling, it really is Galactus sees

558
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Franklin Richards the son of Sue and read as his replacement,

559
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 5>which I mean in the comic books, he's he is

560
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 5>a cosmic being. It is made very clear that in

561
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 5>the in this MCU they're going in some direction similar

562
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 5>to the way he's been portrayed before, but there's none

563
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 5>of that in the trailers. And so when you find

564
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 5>out that it's Galactus wanting the child and all of that,

565
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I think to both of your points,

566
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 5>like it had to almost be Sustorm's movie because it's

567
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 5>again it's so focused on the child and the fact

568
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 5>that they're all family and believable family is the reason

569
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 5>this works. Like you said, Father Malonely, you have to

570
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 5>be a family unit of people. That's otherwise this movie fails.

571
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 5>Like put two seconds out of the gate.

572
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 2>This whole movie is about defending your children.

573
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah.

574
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It very much reminded me of if anyone watched the

575
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>television series torch Wood, which is a spinoff series of

576
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Who. Their third season was a five episode arc

577
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>called Children of Earth where an alien intelligence shows up

578
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and secretly amongst the government demands ten percent of the

579
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 2>children of Earth that they're going to use for whatever

580
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>purposes they're going to. What they believe is they boil

581
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>them down for recreational chemicals basically, or they're going to

582
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 2>destroy everyone on Earth. And it is harrowing and awful

583
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 2>and left me dazed that series. So the fact that

584
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>they kind of sneak it into this light entertainment here,

585
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 2>this threat of we're going to destroy your world unless

586
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 2>you give us that kid, and they deal with it

587
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 2>because the people on Earth are fucking angry about it.

588
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should give them your kids. We'd like to live.

589
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>It's one child verse. It is the needs of the

590
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 2>many versus the needs of the one.

591
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 5>And it's the first time seemingly anyone on this planet

592
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 5>has had an issue with the Fantastic Four.

593
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:31.359
<v Speaker 4>Also exactly, they all love them, and it's so important

594
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 4>that we set up that montage at the beginning with everyone,

595
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 4>thank you Fantastic four and those little dots creating the

596
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Big Four for that television special.

597
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who has a little flag yeah or that little.

598
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 6>That obnoxious guys say the line say the line. I'm like, yeah,

599
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 6>this is kind of nice.

600
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 4>I like that there's a difference between cartoon Fantastic Four

601
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 4>and real life Fantastic Four. And Ben's just Nope, that's

602
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 4>not what I say.

603
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my favorite I mentioned my favorite character that appears

604
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>in this thing. It's the Silver Surfer. And because this

605
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>is Earth eight one eight, we're in a different universe.

606
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 2>What we're given is Sheella Ball, who is noorin Rad's

607
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>wife on Zen Law. So in the original conception of

608
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the character, and we got a version of it in

609
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that Rise of the Silver Surfer movie with Doug Jones

610
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>playing the character with Laurence Fishburne doing the voice nor

611
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 2>in Rad is. The plot is that Galactus shows up

612
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>to his planet says I'm going to eat your planet

613
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 2>unless you become my herald, and he says, okay, I'll

614
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>do it and leaves his wife and child and then

615
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>lines up being safe. They've just flopped that here and

616
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>made his wife the character who is now the herald

617
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 2>of Galactus, and they eliminate noorin Rad from the plot here.

618
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>So this is a fully different universe of the Silver Surfer.

619
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>But I got to say, at twenty minutes into this movie,

620
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the Silver Surfer shows up and her opening shot, it

621
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>was fucking breathtaking. The realization of this character, like compared

622
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to that earlier version of it, or any of the

623
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>earlier tests of any sort of chrome character I've ever seen,

624
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>just like this is bread taking. And not only just

625
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 2>that sort of opening scene, but like we get cosmic

626
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>surfing in this movie that I oh my god, God,

627
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>thank god, man, I left my body. Man when she

628
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they're in that nebula and she's like surfing along. Oh boy,

629
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to watch the movie again right now for

630
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 2>that fucking scene.

631
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Man.

632
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 5>I never in a million years would have thought they

633
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 5>would actually show that. It feels so weird in the

634
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 5>mcu now to be seeing things that, yeah, she's a

635
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 5>silver surfer, and she's not just called that. She has

636
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 5>a surfboard, not just for a reason like she does

637
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 5>it because there are times where she has to do that,

638
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 5>like it's just it is a form of conveyance.

639
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, you get her on that board. Yes,

640
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 2>if she's on that board, you're fucked man.

641
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

642
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 4>And I love the mirroring of the scene of her

643
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 4>coming to Earth and warning us versus later on when

644
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 4>they've got all of the recordings, the voice recordings from

645
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 4>her home planet. I love that that both of those

646
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 4>are taking place in that time of square area, which

647
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 4>is where like the whole end of the movie happens

648
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 4>and everything. I thought that was really nice, just very

649
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 4>very smart filmmaking. And of course there are nods to

650
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 4>other things that we've seen. I love the little thing

651
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 4>with the Latveria plaque but nobody's there, that country's missing

652
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 4>from the big foundation, or that they called the ship

653
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 4>the Excelsior. I'm just like, oh, yeah, that's great. That's

654
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 4>how stan Lee used to sign off every like stand

655
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 4>soapbox and everything. I thought that was so nice that

656
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 4>they weren't just like hammering us with stuff and just

657
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>giving us enough of those little fan moments, like that

658
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 4>they have the mole Man, but they actually bring him

659
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 4>back into the movie later on. I was like, Oh, wow,

660
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 4>that's actually really smart. Or just that little throwaway moment

661
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 4>of the green creature that's coming up through the city streets,

662
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, there's the cover of the first Fantastic Four.

663
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 4>That's so nice. And I love that they do those

664
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 4>little things without just oh, well, look in the background

665
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 4>and if you see this and this, and Okay, yeah,

666
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 4>I was definitely looking in the background, just taking in

667
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 4>all of those moments, but it was just because the

668
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 4>city was so cool looking and just so much fun

669
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 4>to kind of see, like, how does this world work?

670
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I guess if you like Canada Dry, you are really

671
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 4>in business, because they've got Canada Dry advertising all over.

672
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>The place and seven up the whole the splash pages

673
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing that they keep doing in the movie

674
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 2>anytime they slow action down to give us a tableau.

675
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Earlier in any Marvel film, sort of prior to something

676
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>of like Avengers, it's almost like in the middle of

677
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>some big action moment and they basically do a freeze

678
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>frame to let us Okay, here's a comic book panel

679
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 2>for you. Here here, it's anytime the movie slows down,

680
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>so you get these sort of poetic moments with the

681
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Silver Surfer when Johnny grabs her surfboard for the first

682
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>time and they're floating together and it's it's so gorgeous.

683
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>And then later when she's sort of having her crisis

684
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of conscience, she sort of floats up and it's just

685
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>hanging in front of the moon. I was like, this

686
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>is fucking beautiful. And it didn't feel like they stopped

687
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>to do it. It felt like organic to the plot.

688
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I fucking love this movie.

689
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 4>I loved when she shows up for the first time

690
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 4>and you get all of the people's reactions, and you

691
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 4>get those two guys in an office building and they

692
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 4>do a reverse shot over their shoulder. You see her

693
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 4>in the background and it's Timely Comics and you can

694
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 4>see pages out of comic books and stuff, and like, oh,

695
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 4>that's nice. We're not going for the obvious. We're not saying, oh,

696
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 4>this is a Marvel Comics office. No, this is Timely Comics,

697
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 4>which will eventually evolve. But this is so nice that

698
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 4>we just get a little nod to these guys working

699
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 4>overnight coloring their comic books and setting up for the

700
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 4>next issue as we have the new Silver Surfer outside.

701
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 5>And I looked at the names of the people involved

702
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 5>with the film in terms of the screen writing, and

703
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 5>so there are four names that are listed. There's Josh Friedman,

704
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, and Ian Springer.

705
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>There's one more for story, right, yeah.

706
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 5>There is one more for story. Cat would so the

707
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 5>two names I mentioned at the top, Josh Free and

708
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 5>Eric Pearson. Eric Pearson worked on and co wrote Thunderbolts,

709
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 5>and then Black Widow and Thor Ragnarok and Agent Carter,

710
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 5>and there are a couple uncredited rewrites on certain things

711
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 5>like Spider Man Homecoming or Quantum Mania. And then Josh Friedman.

712
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 5>He this is his first, Like Marvel, he worked on

713
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 5>something that I really hadn't enjoyed. He worked on Terminator.

714
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 5>The Sarah Connor chronicles that, yes, the series is way

715
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 5>better than had any write to be. That kind of

716
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:36.000
<v Speaker 5>has been unfortunately forgotten in all the other Terminator bad things.

717
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 5>As maybe one of the few good things the Terminator

718
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 5>actually did.

719
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>After part two. I think it's the only worthy thing

720
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>other than the video game.

721
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm inclined to agree with you. But all that to say,

722
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm really glad that Marvel is working with people that

723
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 5>they have not worked with before in these things, but

724
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 5>also still having people that they're continuing to work with

725
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 5>in those rooms as well, because I think it's helping

726
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 5>balance out the problems that we've been having with a

727
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 5>lot of these Marvel movies, which is they just get

728
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 5>stuck in these ruts of doing the same thing, not

729
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.800
<v Speaker 5>because it's easy, but because it's just kind of the

730
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 5>way Marvel does things. This I think maybe all would

731
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 5>agree with me. This is almost a typical of a

732
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.480
<v Speaker 5>Marvel movie at this point in a lot of ways.

733
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 5>There's what three action scenes in this movie, maybe four,

734
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 5>and they're pretty economical too for the most part, and

735
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 5>they work rather well and they're good additions to what's

736
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 5>going on, but they're not necessarily the focus, because the

737
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 5>focus is it's a character drama almost like really it's

738
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 5>a family piece. And I don't know, like I've been

739
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of preaching about this and bitching about this since

740
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 5>Captain America came out, But if you know what the

741
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 5>source material style you want to go for is lean

742
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 5>into it and they leaned really hard into it here

743
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 5>and it worked like Gangbusters, clearly. And I'm glad because

744
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 5>maybe Marvel will continue to be creative and work themselves

745
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 5>out of these ruts that they work themselves into, because yeah,

746
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 5>this is a lot of this movie just feels atypical

747
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 5>of what we've been seeing of Marvel recently.

748
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's good that they're working with the same

749
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Speaker 2>people in some cases here because or promoting people from within.

750
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Because Matt Shackman, he shepherded all of WandaVision. He directed

751
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 2>every single one of those and what created that show,

752
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure was the showrunner overall, so he got

753
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>to learn how to tell a story in ten episodes

754
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 2>or twelve episodes. So he's the perfect guy to tell

755
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>it in two hours because he can cut off all

756
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>of the fat and get it all down to its

757
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>essential components. And I'd also like to point out that

758
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>if you read the comics at all, Franklin Reid, his

759
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>first governess was Agatha Harkness.

760
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Nice.

761
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. If I had one complain about the movie, though,

762
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 4>it would be that it's it feels rushed sometimes. I

763
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 4>know that's very opposite of what you were saying. Chris

764
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>where you're like, I'm a little bored in parts. But

765
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 4>for me, a lot of times it felt like and

766
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 4>sometimes I'm okay with this as far as it feels

767
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 4>like almost the beginnings and endings are cut off a

768
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 4>little bit of each scene just to move it along

769
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more. But I was like, I kind

770
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 4>of like to see a little bit more. But I

771
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 4>think that's just because I was enjoying the world so

772
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 4>much and enjoying these characters, And if anything, I would

773
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 4>have liked to have spent more time with these characters.

774
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I would have liked to have known them a little

775
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.199
<v Speaker 4>bit more. But it tells a story in less than

776
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 4>two hours, which is pretty freaking remarkable, especially because when

777
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 4>I booked the tickets for the theater, it was two

778
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 4>and a half hours that they allotted for it. And

779
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 4>I guess a lot of that was the pre show.

780
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So it took twenty minutes of trailers, baby, and then

781
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes there they're fucking commercials, exactly.

782
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 5>Two trailers in front of our movie, and that was it.

783
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 5>Really two wow wow, And they were both Disney things.

784
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 5>Huh we have Avatar and aries trying Oh okay, well, yeah,

785
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean.

786
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 4>I had both of those, Yeah, and then we had gosh,

787
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 4>the New Aeronofsky, The Knew Paul Thomas Anderson and something else.

788
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 4>But all three of those it was like, I don't

789
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 4>want us see these, which was surprising that I would

790
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 4>say that about a Paul Thomas Anderson film.

791
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Mike, I know, I know.

792
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Leo wins me over sometimes.

793
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 5>Leona Apple warned you.

794
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>She tried the action scenes in the movie, by the way,

795
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 2>some of them the sort of main The initial one

796
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>really is Galactus. It's when they jet off to Galactus

797
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>for the first time, so leading up to the action sequence,

798
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.159
<v Speaker 2>which is the escape from Galactus. The sense of scale

799
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 2>and the sense of awe leading up to and including

800
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>when Galactus finally fucking leans down and you get the

801
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>sense of how fucking huge he is and how tiny

802
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>we are is something I haven't experienced, I don't think

803
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>in any Marble film.

804
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 5>No, that's I was gonna say, Man, Like, of all

805
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 5>the things that this movie does right is they don't

806
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 5>fuck up Galactus and man talk about the MCU going

807
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 5>as far as to stop doing the big villain characters

808
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 5>for some of their characters initially because they don't want

809
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 5>to blow them like they did with Red Skull, and

810
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean Red Skull is obviously, in my mind like

811
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 5>the worst one.

812
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Well that's because they fucking brought him back as some

813
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 2>mystic celestials kill everybody.

814
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean he's transcended that though, And to be fair, now,

815
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 5>you could just bring in Red Skull from Earth wherever.

816
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Fucking stop it.

817
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 5>Hey, don't look at me. I'm not the one who

818
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 5>decided multiverses were an easy way to fink.

819
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>The war can't come fucking fast enough.

820
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 5>I know, I'm And that's the thing. I'm so glad

821
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 5>that this movie wasn't a like retcon horseshit machine, because

822
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 5>that's what it would have been. If that's what it

823
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 5>would have been. If they had not figured out the

824
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 5>multiverse scenario that we're in now, it would have been

825
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 5>like the Fantastic Four existed and we didn't know anything

826
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 5>about it, and why haven't they been mentioned? This movie

827
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 5>would have just been the Eternals, because isn't that The

828
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 5>problem the Eternals had was like where the fuck were

829
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 5>you guys this whole time? And you can't I mean,

830
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 5>you can't do the I'm not saying you can't do

831
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 5>the Fantastic Four without the retro futurism.

832
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.920
<v Speaker 2>But well, you could have done like they've done with

833
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the earlier versions of Shield. They have Pank Pim and

834
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 2>they had Agent Carter and so so they could have

835
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>said no. Yeah, in the nineteen sixties, the Fantastic Four

836
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 2>went up and they got their powers, and they did

837
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>a couple of secret missions. Firth and they went up

838
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 2>for some other mission and they disappeared. That's how they

839
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 2>could just sort of redcon that. But having them be

840
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>in their own univers is fucking perfect.

841
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Here.

842
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I like them there. Here's the thing. My fear going

843
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>into this movie was this was going to end in tragedy,

844
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that Galactus was going to win and they were going

845
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to have to escape and they would be the only

846
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>ones escaping from their universe into ours, and then I

847
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 2>was just gonna feel bad for them for the rest

848
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of the fucking run of the Fantastic Four in the MCU,

849
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 2>because they would be like Superman or fucking any of

850
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>these people like you know, four for Christ's sake.

851
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 5>I get the distinct feeling that the way that this

852
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 5>plays out is Franklin Richards puts them in the MCU

853
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 5>universe unintentionally through some sort of because again, like that's

854
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 5>the power level of that character, as he can bend

855
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 5>like space and time. And so now, because again to

856
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 5>your point, Father Blow, we talked about this at the

857
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 5>end of the Thunderbolt episode. I was under the impression,

858
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 5>I think we all were that the Thunderbolts movie and

859
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 5>the post credit scene implied that Galactus eight Earth right

860
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 5>Earth eight to eight, and that's, you know what, Good

861
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 5>on them for practicing restraint and not doing that. However,

862
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 5>I also feel like that's because of the other thing

863
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 5>that happened last year, about a year ago now, which

864
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 5>is the casting of one Robert Downey Junior as Iron

865
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Man replacement Doctor Doom, which I'm assuming is the case

866
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 5>in this universe. In this universe, there's not an iron Man,

867
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.159
<v Speaker 5>there's a fucking Victor von Doom who's essentially gonna just

868
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 5>be dark iron Man, which I mean, again, you have

869
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 5>Tony Stark, the actor who played him in that role,

870
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 5>So it makes perfect sense in my mind. Anyways, and clearly,

871
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if they had destroyed Earth, then it would

872
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 5>have been where is this doctor Doom coming from? But

873
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 5>now it's like he's this universe is doctor Doom.

874
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, they could have just pulled him from some

875
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>other universe. And by the way, more than ever, I'm

876
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>unhappy with the Robert Downey Junior casting as Victor von

877
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Doom given what we got in this movie. Yeah, the

878
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>level of imagination and the perfect spot on casting like

879
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>across the board, like who these people could have cast

880
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>for doctor Doom given a wide open net, Like I

881
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe it'll be good. I don't know. I just think

882
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge mistake.

883
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 5>It I think is the biggest issue I have with

884
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 5>this movie, because the lat veria like random mentions and

885
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 5>stuff do feel a little like.

886
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm fine with this, this is this is a

887
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Galactus story that says that's my point. That's about the

888
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>in there.

889
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.519
<v Speaker 5>Focus on that, focus on that because doctor Dum is

890
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 5>such a big threat. Don't hint at it because it

891
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 5>reminds me, like you said, Father Malone, of the Robert

892
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 5>Downey Junior thing, which I agree with you wholeheartedly. A

893
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 5>year ago, I was maybe like just more shocked than

894
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 5>anything else, and now I'm just kind of like it

895
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 5>is kind of subsumed everything as the thing that is

896
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 5>kind of like all anyone is focusing on It's like, it's.

897
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Like when the Hulk lands at the Santonius or whatever

898
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.519
<v Speaker 4>they doctor strangest place and the nose is coming. Now

899
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 4>we're all sitting around here going, Robert Downey Junior is

900
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 4>coming back.

901
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 5>Right, and we know it like we know it. Imagine

902
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 5>if we hadn't known it and they had revealed it

903
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 5>at the end of this movie. Oh God, yes, dude,

904
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 5>we would have all collectively lost. And you know what,

905
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't understand why they passed up that opportunity, because,

906
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 5>you know what, it's great to do it at the

907
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 5>Hall in fucking San Diego right now. It's I mean,

908
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Comic CON's going on, was this past week type thing.

909
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 5>But you're telling me that you would rather have that

910
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 5>one video of people reacting to Robert Downey Junior than

911
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 5>it being played over and over and over in movie

912
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 5>theaters from here until Eternity as the one of the

913
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 5>greatest twists in cinema just to see. Could you imagine

914
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.480
<v Speaker 5>how many people would have just gone ape shit if

915
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 5>they had seen that on screen. That's what could have happened.

916
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why the answer wasn't just will reveal

917
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 5>who doctor Doom is in Fantastic Four. You will see

918
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 5>who he is at the end of the movie, Like,

919
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.639
<v Speaker 5>why spoil it, because, like you said, father, Like, even

920
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 5>if it hadn't been Robert Downey Jr. Whoever it would

921
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 5>have been, would have just been like amazingly insane because

922
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 5>we know that that's the villain of the next two movies.

923
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>They need to have revealed. They need to have revealed

924
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>anything here. They could have just done what they did

925
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>and have the hair walk back into the room and

926
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>see this green cloaked figure and you'd be like, oh fuck,

927
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and then that's the end of the movie. By the way,

928
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>speaking of the end of the movie, uh, it's a

929
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>happy ending. They pushed Galactus into this black hole and

930
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>send him into another universe. Did the Fantastic Four, by

931
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 2>any chance doom us here on Earth? Because that's kind

932
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of how it feels.

933
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 5>But they didn'tush him into another universe. They pushed him

934
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 5>to the other side of their universe, right without his spaceship.

935
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.159
<v Speaker 4>Like the Delta quatern or something.

936
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it'll take him millions of years to get

937
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 5>to us, which I mean, Look, there's a couple narrative

938
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 5>conceits in this movie that I feel like are kind

939
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 5>of hokey, like the we're gonna all save our energy together,

940
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.639
<v Speaker 5>okay movie, we're gonna turn off the world power grid.

941
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 2>You did see the world that they live in, right.

942
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I never always gonna say it, but they're all under

943
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>one banner and the only country not participating in Slatveria.

944
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 5>I get that. I get it, I get it. I

945
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.880
<v Speaker 5>was gonna say the movie gets around, it's narrative conceited.

946
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 5>That's fine, but again to your point, father Malone, it's

947
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 5>a happy ending movie, which I was not expecting when

948
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 5>the lactus is involved.

949
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 4>I honestly thought when the power grids started to go down,

950
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 4>when they were trying to do the whole we're gonna

951
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 4>move Earth out of the way thing instead of move

952
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 4>Galactus out of the way, when those grids started going down,

953
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking, oh shit, was that Latvaria just refusing

954
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 4>to be part of this and turning off their grid?

955
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 4>And I thought we were going to go in a

956
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 4>whole other direction. All of the SUDA.

957
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 5>I thought the same thing because they kept showing the

958
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 5>map and I was like, it starts in eastern Europe

959
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, wait a second, is that No,

960
00:47:58.920 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't like.

961
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and then I was like, oh, okay, no,

962
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 4>it's just the Silver Surfer having incredible powers, which is

963
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.000
<v Speaker 4>so nice to see just how powerful she is, because

964
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 4>that's what the Silver Surfer can do. It's none of

965
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 4>this bullshit just oh I can be so easily defeated.

966
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 4>It takes a fucking lot to defeat this person. And

967
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 4>she ultimately in conjunction with Sue and they get everybody

968
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 4>else on board and stuff, but ultimately it is her.

969
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 4>It is a Silver Surfer that defeats Galactus, which is

970
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 4>just absolutely appropriate that she gets her revenge for her

971
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 4>own planet.

972
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 2>It's great. It's the two mothers who defeat Galactus.

973
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 5>Yes, right, yes, And how great is Ralph inison? Is Galactus?

974
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic?

975
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 5>And then it was a practical effect, like they built

976
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 5>a suit for this man and he was like in

977
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.519
<v Speaker 5>a Galactas suit. Good on them for doing that, even

978
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 5>because it yields dividends. Really, I love the way he

979
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 5>looks in this movie, like he's to Mike's point earlier

980
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 5>about the fucking floating cloud, which they because they couldn't

981
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 5>commit to just a giant dude floating through space in

982
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:00.880
<v Speaker 5>a big.

983
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Would look silly. You can't do it. It be silly.

984
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.000
<v Speaker 5>It would he could be inside of a spaceship again,

985
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 5>like who cares? Right, Like just again they think that

986
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 5>audiences used to want to go watch comic book movies

987
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 5>that made comic books boring. And it's like, we read

988
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 5>comic books because they're exciting and fun and over the

989
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 5>top and bombastic, but then also they can be all

990
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 5>kinds of other things, but don't try to take what

991
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 5>makes comic books out of them and set them in

992
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 5>the real world. And it has to be real and

993
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 5>reality like why And it was so refreshing to watch

994
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 5>the MCU just go yeah, like at some point we

995
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 5>are going to stop trying to make everything in real

996
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 5>life and just accept that this guy's just building a

997
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.079
<v Speaker 5>suit of armor and he can fly around in it,

998
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 5>and we have a god and all of those things

999
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 5>can interact science basically like they do in the comics,

1000
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 5>and that's not a problem for the audience. And this

1001
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 5>movie really is like the one of the better examples

1002
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Speaker 5>of like the audience is on board from the first

1003
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 5>moment we're watching the movie, and by minute fifty when

1004
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 5>a guy in a giant space chair jumps down and

1005
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.079
<v Speaker 5>starts antagonizing our heroes. Everybody's like this, cool, we're on board.

1006
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 5>You already got me through the door, and I'm on

1007
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 5>board with you. And that's again tell Us in two

1008
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 5>thousand and eight about this movie being like this, and

1009
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I think our brains would have collectively melted.

1010
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I loved when Galactus just the I mentioned the sense

1011
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>of scale when they're on his ship, but the whole

1012
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 2>sequence at the end when he's chomping around the city

1013
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 2>is so incredible. Man, just watching him turn in a

1014
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>building behind him you can see all the glass shatter

1015
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>on a skyscraper, or him balancing himself on buildings, speaking

1016
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 2>of buildings in the earth in the opening scene, not

1017
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to keep jumping around, but in the opening when we

1018
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>get the mole Man's first exploits where he takes the

1019
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>pan Am building and drops it into the ground again

1020
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>another sequence that would have been the big payoff of

1021
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 2>any other action movie like that was fucking fantastic and

1022
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.599
<v Speaker 2>felt fun and not horribly destructive, whereas here at the

1023
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>end where Galactus is going crazy, just the sense of

1024
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 2>destruction was unlike anything we've seen in some time, and

1025
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>felt more personal than we've seen in some time. I

1026
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 2>know I always say about superhero movies since day one,

1027
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 2>we don't need them to save the world. It can

1028
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 2>be a personal story, like it can just be a

1029
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of characters versus a couple of other characters, and

1030
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll fucking go with it. But in this case, if

1031
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have them save the world, here's the way

1032
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 2>to fucking do it. Have a fucking giant celestial character

1033
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.000
<v Speaker 2>tramping around and you're flailing trying to stop him.

1034
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1035
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 4>I love the look. Again, going back to that and

1036
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.039
<v Speaker 4>thinking about even their handler, who's played by Sarah Niles,

1037
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 4>I think she's a great character. I kind of wish

1038
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 4>I would have seen a little bit more of her,

1039
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 4>but her with her blue coat that she always wears

1040
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 4>like she's part of the team, and then even in

1041
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 4>their big un type building, like all the chairs are blue,

1042
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.159
<v Speaker 4>and I just love that the blue carries through with everything,

1043
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 4>just to We've seen Theirs in the past movies and

1044
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 4>they've never been this bright a shade of blue before.

1045
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.960
<v Speaker 4>We've never had a bright and shiny world in which

1046
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 4>they live, and with this retro futurism, it just gives

1047
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 4>everything this kind of candy colored sheen to it and

1048
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 4>I love it. I just it's a feast for the eyes,

1049
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.199
<v Speaker 4>which a lot of these movies think about. I'm talking

1050
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 4>about you, Quantumnium, talking about you, thor Love and Thunder.

1051
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 4>A lot of these just look like shit, and this

1052
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 4>one looked really good.

1053
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 5>The sense of style that they allow Matt Shackman to

1054
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:31.519
<v Speaker 5>have is shocking.

1055
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 1>It really is.

1056
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 5>Like I keep harping, I imagine if they had been

1057
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 5>letting everybody do this from the get go. I know

1058
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 5>why they didn't, we all get it, but just imagine.

1059
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know in a lot of ways, like Father

1060
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 5>Malone already mentioned it, but I think it kind of

1061
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.119
<v Speaker 5>bears a little bit of talking about now, Like imagine

1062
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 5>now knowing what you've seen, is James Gunn what you

1063
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 5>can do in response to the MCU with the DCU,

1064
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 5>and that the audiences are now more receptive to just

1065
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 5>doing whatever the fuck you want because we're just gonna

1066
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 5>tell the stories that people want to see. And if

1067
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 5>it Robert Pattinson's Batman is not ever with the Nicholas

1068
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Holts Lex Luthor, So what that doesn't mean you don't

1069
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 5>get Robey Patten.

1070
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Separate, You know what? I I don't want that. I

1071
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want that Pattinson Batman running into mixed mister mix

1072
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 2>like right, or bat.

1073
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 5>Might or any of that. Yeah, and James Gunn's stuff

1074
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 5>allows for that, And that's the thing that is the

1075
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.360
<v Speaker 5>bummer here. And I think it's the transition point in

1076
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 5>my mind of what does this look like when they

1077
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 5>interact with the characters from.

1078
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 2>The ncu' wait actually awesome.

1079
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.719
<v Speaker 5>Because half of it's just gonna be like, why do

1080
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.039
<v Speaker 5>you look like this? What is with your outfits like

1081
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 5>and your uniforms and your sense of style? And because

1082
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 5>again that's the thing. At the end of the Thunderbolts

1083
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.239
<v Speaker 5>we saw them reacting to the ship, not to the

1084
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 5>ship itself, but the fact that there was a ship

1085
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 5>in their orbit. Part of it would be like, what

1086
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.119
<v Speaker 5>the fuck does why does the ship look like that?

1087
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 5>Because again it looks so markedly different than anything we've

1088
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 5>seen in any of the MCU, even the most Again,

1089
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 5>to point out something that I think this movie does

1090
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 5>better than Black Panther, to speak to the retrofuturism that

1091
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 5>they actually do in this Unlike Black Panther here it

1092
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 5>works really well. But yeah, you have to essentially create

1093
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 5>an entire new universe around this, because there's no way

1094
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 5>right now with the MCU the way it is to

1095
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 5>do it any other way. So to your point, by

1096
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 5>them alone, Like, I can't wait to see where they

1097
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 5>go with it. But they have to address it because

1098
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 5>there's no way that they don't like it's so stark

1099
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 5>a contrast between Earth eight to eight and Earth six

1100
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 5>to six.

1101
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure they'll definitely address it. I'm sure it'll

1102
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be a source of comedy in future movies. And what

1103
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I liked here is that it seems like since studios

1104
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 2>started taking superhero movies seriously, there has been a push

1105
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.599
<v Speaker 2>to get as far from comic book accurate costumes as possible,

1106
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:49.320
<v Speaker 2>starting with the X Men. Let's put them all in

1107
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 2>black leather. Okay, sure, that makes it somehow more relatable

1108
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to the real world, I guess, so to have them

1109
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 2>lean so fucking heavy into the original look of the

1110
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Four. But what I discovered here is because I

1111
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 2>watched the ninety four version, and they replicate the costumes

1112
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of the comic book almost exactly in that as well.

1113
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 2>The difference one, yeah, the difference is of course that

1114
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 2>these are heavily stitched and designed, and there's an eye

1115
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>towards a real world version of those costumes. So you

1116
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.440
<v Speaker 2>can do anything, and we'll fucking go with I mean, now,

1117
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 2>after fucking Deadpool and Wolverine, when we've got a comic

1118
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.239
<v Speaker 2>accurate remy Lebau. These days, you can pretty much get

1119
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>away with anything.

1120
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 5>But I'm surprised you mentioned the good old Channing Tatum

1121
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 5>and not that Wolverine like screen accurate or the comic book.

1122
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Which one the tiny one in the bar one yellow?

1123
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 5>The tiny one is the best one. The yellow one.

1124
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the tiny one's amazing.

1125
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, the yellow one. I mean we finally get

1126
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 5>the Wolverine with the with the vertical.

1127
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.519
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, no, certainly, yeah, Oh yeah, Batman facing each other,

1128
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 6>I think, yeah, that's true.

1129
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And when you put that fucking mask on, like everyone

1130
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>in the fucking theater cheered, and it's such a one

1131
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.599
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty degrees from before like it, we cannot

1132
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 2>ever show him in this. This is no one will

1133
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 2>ever accept this. It's too ridiculous.

1134
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, they're faking jokes about it in the first one,

1135
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 4>what do you expect? Yellow spind.

1136
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 5>I like, I like that the thing has an eyebrow,

1137
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 5>Ridge in this.

1138
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yeah, he's really really good.

1139
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.280
<v Speaker 5>This is the This is the best version of the

1140
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.199
<v Speaker 5>thing that's been ever, ever been put to film. But

1141
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 5>I like Michael Chickliss as an actor. I think what

1142
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 5>he was doing exactly what he was asked for. And

1143
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 5>that's not a bad thing for that. I mean, not

1144
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 5>a bad thing for him as an actor. But those movies,

1145
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Father Milone, you already referenced it like he's

1146
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 5>just a sad sack of shit those whole movies. It's

1147
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.159
<v Speaker 5>kind of one note. But Plus plays that note really

1148
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 5>well though, Like to his credit, I.

1149
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Think the prosthetic work in that is is really really good,

1150
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>except they needed to have done something like Peter Jackson photographically,

1151
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, sizing him in some way

1152
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to make it more like he he looks like he's

1153
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 2>he looks like a little he looks like a human

1154
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 2>being underneath all of that rock. This looks like a

1155
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 2>rock man.

1156
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 5>Right, And that's the Yeah, it's surprising how well the

1157
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 5>thing works because it's the one thing that I feel

1158
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 5>like they haven't been able to get right in any

1159
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 5>of these movies.

1160
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Ninety four version. I do want to give the ninety

1161
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.199
<v Speaker 2>four version it to do because Steve Johnson suit in

1162
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.679
<v Speaker 2>that for they had a million dollar budget in that movie,

1163
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 2>which means he maybe got fifty sixty thousand dollars and

1164
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 2>he made that one suit. It's fucking incredible. If he

1165
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>had been given a couple of million dollars, we would

1166
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>have had a practical suit in ninety four that would

1167
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 2>talk and fucking move and fucking clobber and time all day.

1168
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 5>Hey man, those turtle suits in the nineties are a

1169
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 5>good example that you could have done it if you

1170
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.960
<v Speaker 5>actually had the wherewithal to do it. I mean, those

1171
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 5>turtle suits I think are still in my mind like

1172
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 5>the best animatronics ever made because those they carry those

1173
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 5>movies say, which will about those movies, but those are

1174
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 5>four people in fucking full lass puppet suits like giving

1175
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.880
<v Speaker 5>it they're all and yeah, I think that is the

1176
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.559
<v Speaker 5>bummer is The thing about that original Korman movie is

1177
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 5>just it's a big what if. I mean, look, the

1178
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 5>Captain America from the nineties similarly.

1179
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Like Captain America, come on over here.

1180
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Came out and it's bad. Fantastic four movie at least

1181
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 5>would have had some charm. And that's the thing, Like

1182
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 5>I the thing that the Fan four Stick movie didn't

1183
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:22.360
<v Speaker 5>have that those first two had, where they were at

1184
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 5>least like mildly charming. Chris Evans is kind of charming,

1185
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.039
<v Speaker 5>Michael Chick is kind of charming. Like they're all kind

1186
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 5>of charming like that Fan Forour Stick just was like,

1187
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 5>let's be serious and they take all the fun and

1188
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 5>the charm out of it. We've kind of talked about

1189
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 5>him a little bit, but I think it's speaking of charm.

1190
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.679
<v Speaker 5>I think for me, like Pedro Pascal, this is I'm

1191
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.400
<v Speaker 5>good now, Like I don't need you to be in

1192
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 5>everything anymore.

1193
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And this is like the thing where I'm like you,

1194
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 2>like I really liked him, honestly, I know.

1195
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:50.880
<v Speaker 5>I like that's the thing, Like he's really good and

1196
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 5>this is I'm saying, like peak Pedro Pascal. But dude,

1197
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 5>like I don't what else can you be in at

1198
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 5>this point because you've now been like in everything in

1199
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 5>a degree that like no one else can even replicate.

1200
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 5>Like he's he's like a singular Star Wars character for them, too,

1201
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 5>more important than fucking Luke and Han Solo Mandalorian is.

1202
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 5>Some people's like the Star Wars they only care about

1203
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 5>which it's that's fucking Pedro Pascal.

1204
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>He's been around for quite a while now, and I've

1205
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>seen him in tons and tons of things, but I've

1206
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.880
<v Speaker 2>only recently warmed Pedro Pascal. So this is the perfect

1207
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>movie for me to finally embrace him because I loved

1208
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:28.119
<v Speaker 2>his Read Richards. We got the actual perfect Read Richards

1209
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>in that Doctor Strange. In the multiverse of madness. No

1210
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.599
<v Speaker 2>one could portray the smug, fucking assholary that is Read

1211
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Richards like John Krasinskily.

1212
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 5>Thank god, thank god. I do not like John Krasinsky

1213
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 5>at all. He's such a smug guy, right like, he

1214
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.000
<v Speaker 5>plays it so well.

1215
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I despise him.

1216
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was so glad that they kept the stretching

1217
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 4>to a minimum and that they didn't do just stretch

1218
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.920
<v Speaker 4>for stretch sake, like those weird things like I like

1219
00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 4>when he used his arm to go up on the blackboard.

1220
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, okay, that works, and I.

1221
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Like that the blackboard was also it looked mid century

1222
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>modern that it came up in peaks, but it also

1223
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 2>made sense because he could stretch up that far exactly.

1224
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 4>But then in the big action scene at the end

1225
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:12.920
<v Speaker 4>when he's going around and he's stretching all over the

1226
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.480
<v Speaker 4>place like that looks all right, but it's keep that

1227
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 4>shit to a minimum. We don't really need to see

1228
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.360
<v Speaker 4>it because it goes no matter what, no matter how

1229
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 4>they do it, it's always going to be uncanny because

1230
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 4>we just don't move that way, so it's always going

1231
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 4>to be weird. So I think they do his best

1232
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 4>of a job as I can by keeping it to

1233
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.840
<v Speaker 4>a small percentage of it. And I liked when Galaxis

1234
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 4>was stretching him out. Oh my god, I the pain

1235
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 4>on his face. I thought that was really great. I

1236
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 4>think the one missed moment for this is when Sue

1237
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 4>is laying on the street, possibly dead. She should have

1238
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 4>woken up and said, I really want to try some shwarma.

1239
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 4>I think that would have been a perfect way to

1240
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 4>end the film.

1241
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 5>All I could think was, man, read Richards is not

1242
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 5>putting his back into that CPR. He's doing what come on, man, dude,

1243
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 5>that's your wife brother. Oh yeah, but deusex Franklin Richard's

1244
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Baby's baby.

1245
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that's when that baby looks awful. A few

1246
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.559
<v Speaker 6>times in there when the baby looks out. There's a

1247
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 6>few times well, especially like when he's trying to get

1248
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:14.119
<v Speaker 6>to his mother.

1249
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, oh, cg. Baby, It's like, you're scaring Meg, but.

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01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Baby head, Hey, that baby has the power cosmic, all right,

1251
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it does.

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01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.440
<v Speaker 5>It does have the power cosmic. It can bring people

1253
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 5>back to life. It can.

1254
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny is in the in the comics,

1255
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Schalliball one time appeared as a silver Surfer because Galactus,

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01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 2>in the form of Franklin Richards.

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01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 6>Made her Obama Michelle shall Obala Michell Obama.

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01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:54.000
<v Speaker 5>Good god, oh my god.

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01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 5>That was the other thing that was nice because this

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01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 5>movie is set in like retrofuturism. Like I I I

1262
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 5>went into this movie, is like I kind of forgot

1263
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 5>that there was a real world outside. And that is

1264
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 5>again I think Father Malone you would agree clearly having

1265
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 5>seen it twice now, like there's something to be said

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01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 5>for that given that, like we literally two weekends ago

1267
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 5>talked about Superman not doing that Superman literally just being like,

1268
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 5>let's steer into this shit with the rage baiting troll

1269
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:23.039
<v Speaker 5>of Lex Luthor. There's none of that here and again,

1270
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 5>and you we've already talked about it a little bit.

1271
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:28.639
<v Speaker 5>In this universe, it is a much better world, clearly

1272
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.400
<v Speaker 5>than our own. Can you imagine what twenty twenty five

1273
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 5>would look like if this was the universe that we

1274
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.639
<v Speaker 5>lived in. Just again, the world coming together to turn

1275
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.800
<v Speaker 5>all of our electricity off other than these one group

1276
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 5>of assholes in Latvaria, what would that look like?

1277
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:47.119
<v Speaker 4>That's yeah, though, the whole thing of and they've even

1278
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 4>started Galactus cults. I was like, oh fuck that that strikes.

1279
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Down the deaf cults. They're coming.

1280
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh, boy o, boy o boy.

1281
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I wept many times during this movie. I know I'm

1282
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>a sentimental old man and everything, but there were moments

1283
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of actual, fucking, pure emotion. This movie features a birth

1284
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 2>in space. I've never seen that in a movie, and

1285
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it is emotional and appropriate, and it comes in the

1286
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 2>middle like of an action sequence. I don't know, gentlemen,

1287
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:17.599
<v Speaker 2>this movie.

1288
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:20.159
<v Speaker 5>Made for Father alone.

1289
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:22.880
<v Speaker 2>It really was. And here's the thing. Like I said,

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01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the biggest Fantastic Four fan, I can take

1291
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 2>or leave them. The fact that they were going to

1292
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>have Silver Surfer in this had my money, and the

1293
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:33.199
<v Speaker 2>fact that we were getting screen accurate Galactus and everyone involved.

1294
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Obviously I was going to go see this movie, but

1295
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I had no expectations whatsoever. And it really won me over.

1296
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 2>It really reinvigorated my interest in the Marvel sort of universe.

1297
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to fucking finish this goddamn saga, the

1298
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 2>multiverse saga. We got three more, is it? Now? We've

1299
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>got Spider Man and the two Avengers movies and then

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01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.400
<v Speaker 2>we're done, and then we can fucking move on to

1301
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 2>our next frontier. And it can't come soon enough because

1302
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.519
<v Speaker 2>if this is where we're going, I'm so excited.

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01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 5>Does that mean that Marvel is now just gonna do

1304
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:08.480
<v Speaker 5>this is its own thing, like that the Fantastic Four

1305
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 5>just gonna have two sequels and or as many as

1306
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.440
<v Speaker 5>this time allows, and it'll just be in their universe.

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01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 5>That's my hope.

1308
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 2>We could be so lucky.

1309
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 5>I mean again, like if you go to other multiversal

1310
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 5>things that have been done, one of them, speaking of DC,

1311
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 5>is Injustice the video game. In the video game, in

1312
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:31.400
<v Speaker 5>the first one, it's like a multiversal crossover that causes

1313
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:33.519
<v Speaker 5>the issues, but in the second game has nothing to

1314
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 5>do with that, and it's just taking place in that

1315
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 5>universe that was dealing with multiversal stuff in the first game,

1316
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 5>but now it's just dealing with things in that universe.

1317
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 5>They're different than the universe you're used to. But we

1318
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:47.480
<v Speaker 5>don't go and have alternate universe Batman brought in. I mean,

1319
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 5>we don't have any of that. Again, It's just that's

1320
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 5>whatever is taking place in this universe is that is

1321
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.559
<v Speaker 5>that version of the game. And that's what I would

1322
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 5>like to see with the MCU after this. If the

1323
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 5>Fantastic Four do exist beyond this, I hope it's just

1324
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.000
<v Speaker 5>in their own universe doing their own fucking thing.

1325
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:02.639
<v Speaker 2>The hell did you just say?

1326
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:08.800
<v Speaker 5>It made sense to me? Anyways, I would like if

1327
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.119
<v Speaker 5>these movies stay in their own lane moving forward and

1328
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.199
<v Speaker 5>don't get bogged down in the MCU of it all,

1329
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.960
<v Speaker 5>because I think the MCU could do like the DCU

1330
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 5>is going to do and allow things to just be

1331
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 5>their own things. And there's nothing wrong with that, because

1332
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Father Malone, your favorite Superheroes, Captain America,

1333
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Captain America, Sam Wilson would not work on Earth eight

1334
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 5>to eight the end, right, It wouldn't work, and I

1335
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:33.800
<v Speaker 5>don't want to see it, and I would prefer to

1336
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:35.920
<v Speaker 5>just have this be its own thing moving forward. After

1337
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 5>whatever they decide to do with Doomsday and everything else.

1338
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you. If they go back to

1339
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Earth A two eight and they just chill because they are,

1340
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 4>as far as I can see, the Earth's only real protectors.

1341
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Keep keep them with that Earth, Let them stay there,

1342
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 4>let them have their thing, Let them move against other

1343
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.800
<v Speaker 4>villains if they need to. I am curious. I'm excited

1344
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:00.360
<v Speaker 4>to see the deleted scenes with John Malcove, which I

1345
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.440
<v Speaker 4>think that would be pretty cool seeing him, and from

1346
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.360
<v Speaker 4>the just the tiniest images that I've seen, I don't

1347
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 4>know if he's in jail during it or what's going on.

1348
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 4>But we get the red apes. I'm not familiar with

1349
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 4>that character, so it seems so cheesy to have these

1350
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 4>red apes going around. But I'm like, yeah, that's the

1351
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Fantastic four.

1352
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Oh yeah, man, fantastic He's got his

1353
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 2>army of apes. Yes, really fun and the fact that

1354
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be Malkovich. But I feel like

1355
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.519
<v Speaker 2>we kind of got robbed of a few movies of

1356
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.079
<v Speaker 2>just the sort of wacky adventures that's fantastic for.

1357
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was on the poster, not his face, but

1358
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 4>his name, so I was just like, oh, well, I

1359
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:40.360
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't for a while because I try to stay away

1360
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.559
<v Speaker 4>from this stuff as much as possible. I was like, well,

1361
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if he's voicing Galactis, that would be interesting. Yeah,

1362
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 4>this is this big cloud with John Malkovich's voice coming

1363
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:50.440
<v Speaker 4>out of it.

1364
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 5>You Pig Fox Philip Seymour Hoffman, who's essentially just also

1365
01:06:58.239 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 5>just kind of doing John malcovitch'svoice of.

1366
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 4>He's got the same accent he had from what was

1367
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 4>that The Rounders, right, And there's a little bit of

1368
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 4>moment of comedy in here right at the end to

1369
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 4>lighten it up with them trying to put the baby

1370
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.199
<v Speaker 4>seat in, And I was like, that actually works for me.

1371
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 4>Had that been at the beginning of the movie, I

1372
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:21.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know if I would have taken it. But by

1373
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.639
<v Speaker 4>the end, I have such good will for these characters

1374
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 4>that I just like, yeah, this is it and that

1375
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.599
<v Speaker 4>they need to use fucking teamwork to make it work.

1376
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 5>This movie makes the unthinkable real and it gives Ben

1377
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.679
<v Speaker 5>Grimm facial hair that doesn't look ridiculous.

1378
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was awesome.

1379
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I know.

1380
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 5>I was like, man, that's so cool.

1381
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 4>He walks into that temple with the hat and everything.

1382
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.639
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, man, he looks like a Rabbi, He's.

1383
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:46.639
<v Speaker 5>Like, he looks great.

1384
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1385
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:49.039
<v Speaker 5>I will say I wish that they had given the

1386
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 5>it's clobbering time moment a little bit more of like

1387
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:55.280
<v Speaker 5>a pause, or maybe my movie theater just wasn't loud enough,

1388
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:56.800
<v Speaker 5>like the mixing wasn't loud enough, but it kind of

1389
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 5>got lost in the explosion punching Galactus in the sight

1390
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.199
<v Speaker 5>of the face of it all, and it's also.

1391
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.760
<v Speaker 2>In the moment where Galactus is stretching Reid Richards, which

1392
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:07.480
<v Speaker 2>is very harrowing, and then they cut away to this

1393
01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 2>sort of raw, raw moment and it's it is, Yeah.

1394
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:13.880
<v Speaker 5>It's jarring because, like I did see in one of

1395
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 5>the final trailers for the movie, they showed the lead

1396
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 5>up to that scene in that, but they don't show

1397
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 5>that It's clobbering time payoff. And I was like, man,

1398
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:24.079
<v Speaker 5>I can't wait to see what it's like in the movie.

1399
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:25.279
<v Speaker 5>And then when I saw the movie, was like, man,

1400
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I almost wish they had just done that fucking Captain

1401
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 5>America thing where it's like Avengers dot dot dot. I

1402
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:32.960
<v Speaker 5>wish they had just done that, given it for a

1403
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 5>moment and maybe Avengers Doomsday or something where we actually

1404
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:38.279
<v Speaker 5>have him say it, because if this was going to

1405
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.079
<v Speaker 5>be it, I don't know. You didn't give the moment

1406
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 5>enough time to breathe, which is a weird thing to

1407
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.560
<v Speaker 5>say for a rockman screaming at a giant space god.

1408
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And the next time and the next time he says it,

1409
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I want him to say it very quietly and mean right.

1410
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Clovering.

1411
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 5>Time just whacked the shit out of Doctor Doom like

1412
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 5>upper cut him. Yeah. Yeah, man, The Thing is a

1413
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 5>character that I don't know, like you could give him

1414
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:03.920
<v Speaker 5>his own You could give him his own thing, like

1415
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:05.479
<v Speaker 5>you can give any of these characters their own thing.

1416
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:08.520
<v Speaker 5>That's maybe another direction to go to split them off

1417
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:09.600
<v Speaker 5>and do their own thing as well.

1418
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I used to read that The Thing had at least

1419
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.640
<v Speaker 4>one spinoff series that I read all of that, and

1420
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:19.079
<v Speaker 4>it was almost a little not quite Planet Hulk esque,

1421
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:21.439
<v Speaker 4>but it was him on another planet kind of doing

1422
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:23.479
<v Speaker 4>his own thing. Because it just felt like such an

1423
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:26.119
<v Speaker 4>outsider and I was like, Okay, yeah, this works. I

1424
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:27.039
<v Speaker 4>love that series.

1425
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah man, and please, I know we're getting anurin Rad

1426
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Silver Surfer. From what I hear, they're doing it as

1427
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:37.119
<v Speaker 2>like they did the Werewolf by Night. They're going to

1428
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:41.119
<v Speaker 2>do it as a like a special and please, for

1429
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the love of God, because we can do any kind

1430
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 2>of story we want. Give us existential nurin Rad, give please,

1431
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:50.960
<v Speaker 2>just half an hour of him just surfing the fucking

1432
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:51.920
<v Speaker 2>universe is fine.

1433
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's the other question, right, Like is this the

1434
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Galactus from this movie? Is that the only Galactus?

1435
01:09:58.640 --> 01:09:58.680
<v Speaker 1>No?

1436
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Right, but again, like they say that Galactus is a

1437
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.119
<v Speaker 5>multiversal thing.

1438
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:06.319
<v Speaker 2>In this well then he very well may be. But fact,

1439
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they'll resolve that with Nora and Rad.

1440
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 5>That's my point, Like, I'd be very curious if they

1441
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 5>how they resolved that, because if this is Earth eight

1442
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 5>to eight silver Surfer, that's one thing. But if this

1443
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.439
<v Speaker 5>is all of this universe of anything's Galactus, then there

1444
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 5>could only ever be the Silver.

1445
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:25.600
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm thinking, like whatever plan they had

1446
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to knock Galactus to the other side of their universe,

1447
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 2>they opened a black hole, they'd have no fucking idea

1448
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 2>where he went right, right, Yeah, I.

1449
01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 5>Mean again, like that to your point, like maybe they

1450
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 5>did just send him to Earth sixty six.

1451
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess, because look, all the action takes place on

1452
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.880
<v Speaker 2>our Earth in the Marvel universe, so they can have

1453
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:44.920
<v Speaker 2>their fun over there, but all the shit's gonna end

1454
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.399
<v Speaker 2>up here eventually, right right, Well, yeah.

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01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.159
<v Speaker 5>That any of the serious stuff anything with this where

1456
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:52.319
<v Speaker 5>the stakes need to be resolved, like are going to

1457
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 5>have to take place on Earth six to six.

1458
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:57.600
<v Speaker 4>So, as far as I can tell, the next Marvel

1459
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.239
<v Speaker 4>movie that TV show, but the next More movie is

1460
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.600
<v Speaker 4>that Spider Man movie, which is set to come out

1461
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:09.960
<v Speaker 4>July thirty first, twenty twenty six, just fucking wild. And

1462
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 4>then it's six months later Avengers Doomsday, and then a

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01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:15.880
<v Speaker 4>year later Secret Wars.

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01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 5>We've gone into the scarce, the feast and famine times.

1465
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:20.840
<v Speaker 5>We're in the famine times with Marvel again.

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01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.439
<v Speaker 2>This is hey, man, if we got to wait and

1467
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 2>we get movies like this, fucking take a year, take

1468
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:26.920
<v Speaker 2>two years, do you I know?

1469
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm I was gonna say as a video gamer, this

1470
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:30.439
<v Speaker 5>is a thing that we deal with like a lot

1471
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 5>of like oversaturation of things like and Marvel. I think

1472
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Marvel and Disney and Star Wars reached an oversaturation point

1473
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:41.920
<v Speaker 5>during probably the would we all say, what early pandemic

1474
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 5>years twenty one twenty two. I think everybody was getting

1475
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:47.239
<v Speaker 5>burned out in that kind of maybe once that.

1476
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Fucking Boba Fet thing was up, the talents from Boba

1477
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Fet by then, I think it was like that was

1478
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:56.119
<v Speaker 2>all over that, all of the fucking sequels.

1479
01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 5>And for me with Marvel, it was like stuff like

1480
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 5>Moon Night, like I do too, but it doesn't have

1481
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 5>any stakes with anything. It doesn't seem like it's ever

1482
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:07.159
<v Speaker 5>gonna mask.

1483
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Those were all over long. They all should have been

1484
01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:13.039
<v Speaker 2>two hour movies. Well, those series were nothing but diluting

1485
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 2>everything that was going on with Marvel.

1486
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Well that's the thing, like you just said with the

1487
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Werewolf by Night thing, like I didn't need a full

1488
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:22.520
<v Speaker 5>fucking series of that. That was exactly enough. Yeah, man,

1489
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 5>perfect enough.

1490
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:26.239
<v Speaker 2>And I, by the way, recommend they have that in color.

1491
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:29.520
<v Speaker 2>If you can watch that in color, watch it in color.

1492
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 2>It's a thousand times better.

1493
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say. Speaking of Michael Giacchino, Wow, talking

1494
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 5>about doing some heavy lifting in this movie and the

1495
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 5>Fantastic Four theme, like the motif is great. I don't know,

1496
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.760
<v Speaker 5>like they He's a great He obviously did great with

1497
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 5>Werewolf by Night. But I mean Michael Giaccino just talk

1498
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:52.119
<v Speaker 5>about I wouldn't say modern day John Williams, but definitely

1499
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:55.199
<v Speaker 5>someone who's has that that level of I don't know,

1500
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:58.239
<v Speaker 5>grandeur when it comes to working in the film landscape

1501
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.039
<v Speaker 5>because it gives this movie like a sense of g

1502
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.319
<v Speaker 5>o vent it needed. And again, like we've already mentioned

1503
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.039
<v Speaker 5>the Fantastic Four, is this only Earth's Defender? Like that,

1504
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.000
<v Speaker 5>there needs to be some real weight given to these

1505
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.840
<v Speaker 5>characters and what they're dealing with because it's there, the

1506
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.199
<v Speaker 5>four of them in between destruction.

1507
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Plus it's got a lot of frolicsome early sixties kind

1508
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.319
<v Speaker 2>of lounge music kind of themes going on.

1509
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, it was nice too that as far as I

1510
01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:27.800
<v Speaker 4>could tell, the songs weren't Earth songs, that they were

1511
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.560
<v Speaker 4>like Earth songs but a little bit different because it's

1512
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 4>a whole different Earth. And I was like, okay, well

1513
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 4>that's nice. It's kind of that like Fringe when they

1514
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 4>would go to the alternate universe and they would see

1515
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 4>like different cars, like different It was the Eric Stoltz

1516
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.640
<v Speaker 4>version of Back to the Future. Like those differences were there,

1517
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:48.279
<v Speaker 4>which I liked. And it wasn't like punching you in

1518
01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:50.680
<v Speaker 4>the face with things, So it wasn't like we had

1519
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.119
<v Speaker 4>to have a music video where it was kind of

1520
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 4>like the Beatles but not quite them. It's okay, please. Like,

1521
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 4>even though this universe, this world, this eight two eight

1522
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 4>could have led itself to really gimmicky, garbage type stuff,

1523
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:08.039
<v Speaker 4>they stayed away from it. They didn't even focus on

1524
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.840
<v Speaker 4>the cartoon that much, just a couple of moments during

1525
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.000
<v Speaker 4>the movie, and then having the cartoon intro at the

1526
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.199
<v Speaker 4>end I thought was really a smart thing and also

1527
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:19.239
<v Speaker 4>harkened back to the end of the One Spider Man

1528
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 4>movie where they were no way helme I think, where

1529
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.840
<v Speaker 4>they're all pointing at each other and I think one

1530
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:26.960
<v Speaker 4>of the one of the Sony animation ones where.

1531
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.560
<v Speaker 5>The animated one does yeah, twenty.

1532
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Ninety nine version of Spider Man coming in. Yeah, that

1533
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:34.840
<v Speaker 4>was nice, and I thought that was a very nice

1534
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:35.439
<v Speaker 4>way to end it.

1535
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad that this movie didn't dip, like it's toe

1536
01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:40.399
<v Speaker 5>too much into comedy. I mean, it's I would say

1537
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 5>it's about as comedic as any Marvel film is, but

1538
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.560
<v Speaker 5>I would say it's less so in my like mind,

1539
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:49.079
<v Speaker 5>like there are moments of comedy, but there aren't those

1540
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 5>like it's seeming like we're thankfully getting away from those

1541
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:56.560
<v Speaker 5>Josh Weedon moments that this like MCU was plagued by

1542
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 5>for what a decade after event like it was Cracker,

1543
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 5>but it was also but it was also like serious beat,

1544
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.239
<v Speaker 5>serious beat joke to undercut the two serious beats because

1545
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:11.640
<v Speaker 5>we could never be serious and this movie doesn't do that.

1546
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Thunderbolts doesn't really do that either. I went and rewatched

1547
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Thunderbolts as well, like I did too.

1548
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 2>By the way, my estimation has grown, my criticisms remain.

1549
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's clunky and really poorly paced. But oh

1550
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, the ending is fucking riotously good.

1551
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it is way I like to your point, Like,

1552
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.359
<v Speaker 5>I think it's way better than it had any right

1553
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 5>to be. And I have really re enjoyed, like I've

1554
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 5>enjoyed rewatching it like two or three times.

1555
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Even that's a good team. I really enjoy them.

1556
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and same here. Like as much as maybe Pedro

1557
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Prescal for me, doesn't do all the heavy lifting, he's

1558
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 5>almost the Leonardo of the group. There always has to

1559
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:52.920
<v Speaker 5>be one character that can stand to be underwritten a

1560
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.640
<v Speaker 5>little bit, but doesn't always have to be. But Pedro

1561
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 5>Pscal is great. But for me, I think all of

1562
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:01.880
<v Speaker 5>this movie really does benefit from the four leads just

1563
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:04.239
<v Speaker 5>being so great together in a way that the Thunderbolts were,

1564
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.680
<v Speaker 5>and I'm hopeful that with more team based.

1565
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Let's do that. Yeah, keep keep giving us teams, for

1566
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:15.119
<v Speaker 2>christ ake, give us the fucking Midnight Suns. They're sitting

1567
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:16.239
<v Speaker 2>right there.

1568
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 5>I know. And I'm hopeful for the x Men, like

1569
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm hopeful for whatever we get of the X Men.

1570
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 5>This makes me so unbelievably hopeful for whatever we get

1571
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.159
<v Speaker 5>as their version of the X Men, because it'll probably

1572
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:30.760
<v Speaker 5>be a mix of whatever they're doing with Doomsday and

1573
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.720
<v Speaker 5>whatever they're doing beyond that. But I'm hopeful that it's

1574
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 5>great because they've been kind of nailing it with these

1575
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 5>big hero teams recently, and the chemistry is really where

1576
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:44.840
<v Speaker 5>this kind of comes down to. And the actors right now,

1577
01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 5>they must just be champion at the bit to work

1578
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.159
<v Speaker 5>with Marvel. If you're in a team setting, because you

1579
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:51.079
<v Speaker 5>get to work with these great actors and feed off

1580
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:52.359
<v Speaker 5>of one another, it must be great.

1581
01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying that Pedro Pascal is good, but he

1582
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 4>can be better. That was a wonder Woman nineteen eighty four.

1583
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh God, Jesus, Mike, why the movie that made Pedro

1584
01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:07.439
<v Speaker 5>Prescal Never want to shave his face again, apparently, is

1585
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 5>what he has said. I hated the way I looked

1586
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.720
<v Speaker 5>about facial hair. If your hair looked like that, I

1587
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:13.640
<v Speaker 5>believe it.

1588
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Anything else we want to say, fellas, go.

1589
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:18.760
<v Speaker 2>See this movie. I love Superman, but this is better

1590
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.880
<v Speaker 2>than Superman. See both of these like this. You just

1591
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 2>said it, Chris hopeful for the future of superhero movies.

1592
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was all over, and finally it seems

1593
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Speaker 2>people are figuring out that you got to give us

1594
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a good story and take your time and make the

1595
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 2>characters enjoyable and make everything pay off and maybe in

1596
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 2>still a sense of awe and wonder that we all

1597
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.520
<v Speaker 2>go to the fucking movies for in the first place.

1598
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:52.000
<v Speaker 5>As much as Deadpool Wolverine last year didn't nail it,

1599
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:56.159
<v Speaker 5>the thing that movie nailed was that fucking team up

1600
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:58.439
<v Speaker 5>at the end. That was the best part of that

1601
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:01.399
<v Speaker 5>whole movie. That's that's the best team up I think

1602
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 5>in any of those Deadpool movies, because you're like, Okay,

1603
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:05.840
<v Speaker 5>there's a sense of those characters, there's a sense of

1604
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 5>how Deadpool interacts with them. There's a sense of how

1605
01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:11.039
<v Speaker 5>they interact with Deadpool. They're all kind of different, but

1606
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.760
<v Speaker 5>they are all on a similar wavelength, and that works

1607
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 5>really well. And I can't help but wonder how much

1608
01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:21.199
<v Speaker 5>of that positive energy and chemistry of those teams work

1609
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:23.960
<v Speaker 5>their ways into the other scripts and the things that

1610
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 5>were being worked on around the same time being filmed

1611
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.560
<v Speaker 5>and going into production, like this movie was, and Thunderbolts

1612
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.920
<v Speaker 5>really and just that Deadpool Wolverine movie, just everything. But

1613
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:36.239
<v Speaker 5>the team up at the end is kind of eh.

1614
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:38.560
<v Speaker 5>But you know what if that sets the tone for

1615
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:41.960
<v Speaker 5>some of these things moving forward. Great, because there's about

1616
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:43.479
<v Speaker 5>to be a really big team up thing, and I

1617
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.600
<v Speaker 5>hope it's half as good as that original Avengers big

1618
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.880
<v Speaker 5>ass team up was with Endgame, because our Infinity War,

1619
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.800
<v Speaker 5>because that's a pretty high barred across at this point.

1620
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.119
<v Speaker 5>So but these are some good team up, teamed team films,

1621
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:01.359
<v Speaker 5>So I can only hope that beyond this, It'll bet.

1622
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing but potential. From everything that's come up until now,

1623
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.119
<v Speaker 2>all of the films have been long, they've been all

1624
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.720
<v Speaker 2>disappointing in one way or another. But now we know

1625
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:11.399
<v Speaker 2>who those characters are, we're established with them. If we

1626
01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:14.399
<v Speaker 2>can get them into a situation that is half as

1627
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:17.800
<v Speaker 2>good as Infinity War, where I think we're golden.

1628
01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:20.039
<v Speaker 5>For the first time in a long time. There's a

1629
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:22.399
<v Speaker 5>good Marvel and a good DC movie in the movie

1630
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:25.960
<v Speaker 5>theaters that you could go watch on a Saturday back

1631
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.199
<v Speaker 5>to back and not have a bad time with either.

1632
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.119
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, it was never one versus the other.

1633
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:33.680
<v Speaker 2>As comic book fans, we love both of them like

1634
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we want them both to succeed.

1635
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 5>Right, And if you don't feel that way, then get

1636
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:40.920
<v Speaker 5>the fuck out of here, because that's only good for

1637
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.880
<v Speaker 5>us that they're both successful. Not I mean it's good

1638
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 5>for them too, obviously financially, but as consumers them being

1639
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.039
<v Speaker 5>good at the same time actually makes both of them

1640
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:52.479
<v Speaker 5>better in the long run, because if you're just resting

1641
01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 5>on your laurels, one of the other ones can be complacent.

1642
01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Cough cough, Marvel. It's not like Marvel saw DC and

1643
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:00.760
<v Speaker 5>when we're just gonna elevate ourselves further than them, they

1644
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:02.680
<v Speaker 5>looked at him and went, these guys just keep shooting

1645
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:04.800
<v Speaker 5>themselves in the foot over and over again. It's making it.

1646
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 5>It's like racing a one legged.

1647
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Man like you.

1648
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:11.039
<v Speaker 5>You're ahead all the whole time, and Marvel got so

1649
01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:15.239
<v Speaker 5>complacent that they're having to redo everything but I'm so

1650
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:17.359
<v Speaker 5>excited to see what that is at this point because

1651
01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:20.560
<v Speaker 5>the way they treat the audiences is so markedly different

1652
01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:23.319
<v Speaker 5>from ten years ago, let alone two thousand and eight.

1653
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:26.319
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, hopeful is hopeful for the first time with

1654
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Marvel is wild? Marvel is one thing, but DC is

1655
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 5>a no. Collectively is this is a first I think

1656
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 5>in our lifetimes with these kinds of things.

1657
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:38.319
<v Speaker 4>Really, it was very strange when I went to the theater.

1658
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I pulled right into a very convenient spot. There were

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<v Speaker 4>very few people on the lobby. There are very few

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<v Speaker 4>people in my theater. I know it did very well

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01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.840
<v Speaker 4>this weekend, but it was pretty empty when I was

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01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:54.279
<v Speaker 4>sitting there, which was a big surprise for me because

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01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:58.720
<v Speaker 4>I was expecting packed packed everything. I was like, Oh,

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01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:00.399
<v Speaker 4>this is the fantastic for the this is going to

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01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.239
<v Speaker 4>be huge. I mean the theater was overflowing for endgame,

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01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:08.800
<v Speaker 4>of course, but not here. Not here, UNFORTUNATELYNGS. So I

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01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:10.000
<v Speaker 4>don't think they've got legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think they've built up the fucking the

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01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:17.159
<v Speaker 2>goodwill yet, you know, like Thunderbolts was a good first step, honestly,

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01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:19.119
<v Speaker 2>that before first steps.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm this has taken a lot of momentum to

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<v Speaker 5>get to this point, and they need to keep this

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01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.199
<v Speaker 5>is a good thing, that this will keep it building

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01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:29.840
<v Speaker 5>and not stifle it. But to your point, Mike, like

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<v Speaker 5>I went and saw it in my theater was almost full,

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01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.079
<v Speaker 5>and I saw it today at one in the afternoon

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01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:38.359
<v Speaker 5>on a Sunday. So the post church crowd in the

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01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Midwest showed up for this movie. So I'm thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 5>They're the kind of the hardest ones to get through

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01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:44.880
<v Speaker 5>the door sometimes, especially on the weekends, because there's so

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01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.159
<v Speaker 5>much other stuff to do. There were plenty of people there,

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01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 5>and it was a pretty mixed crowd too, a lot

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01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:51.279
<v Speaker 5>of adults, but there were also some families with kids.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, there was one couple in the theater

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01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.840
<v Speaker 4>with a baby, and so whenever Franklin would get upset,

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01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:00.159
<v Speaker 4>the baby would get upset. So it was almost like stair.

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<v Speaker 5>Was dobe at most. Feel everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Chris, when you're not talking about the Fantastic fourward,

1689
01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:08.800
<v Speaker 4>are you up to these days?

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<v Speaker 5>Just doing audio stuff with you over at weirdingwaymedia dot com. Well,

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01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:16.720
<v Speaker 5>you and Father Malone. From time to time we do

1692
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:19.479
<v Speaker 5>a little show with Father Malone every other week we're

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01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:22.880
<v Speaker 5>on his show Midnight Viewing, and then I've taken a

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01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:24.520
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a break from my show to kind

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01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:26.399
<v Speaker 5>of retool it. But the Culture Cast still has six

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01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:29.640
<v Speaker 5>hundred and ninety one episodes, which is a lot. So

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01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:31.439
<v Speaker 5>if you want to go listen to that show, it's

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01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 5>on weirding Way Media too, But that's where you can

1699
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:34.960
<v Speaker 5>go for everything that I work on. What about you,

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01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:35.840
<v Speaker 5>father Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>You just mentioned my show Midnight Viewing, where we look

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01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>at horror anthologies and horror things in general, you gentlemen,

1703
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I every other week look at tails from the

1704
01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:47.319
<v Speaker 2>dark Side. Currently, those other weeks are filled with a

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01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:51.079
<v Speaker 2>bunch of fests right now, HP, the host of Night

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01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Mister Walters, and I are currently going through the works

1707
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of John Fusco and our Fusco Fest. We've also begun

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01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:00.279
<v Speaker 2>our Yaucha Fest, which is the actual name of the

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01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:04.439
<v Speaker 2>race in the Predator movies. We're starting with Predator this Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's a great series. We're having a lot

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01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:09.079
<v Speaker 2>of fun doing it. So that's what we're up to.

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<v Speaker 4>From Predator Fress What is this Marl Logoh hey, hey,

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01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:16.760
<v Speaker 4>exactly why we're calling it Yaucha fest.

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<v Speaker 5>Yaucha Fest. That's got a nice ring to it. I

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01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.479
<v Speaker 5>like that two thumbs way way up from it.

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<v Speaker 4>And as for me, you can find everything that I

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<v Speaker 4>do also at wordingway media dot com, including the Projection Booth,

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01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.520
<v Speaker 4>which you are currently listening to one version of it.

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01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:32.520
<v Speaker 4>So you might be listening to this under the culture

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01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:36.399
<v Speaker 4>Cast or under Midnight Viewing. But yes, all of those

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01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:40.199
<v Speaker 4>wordingwaymedia dot com, come on over give us a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you'll be very pleased.

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<v Speaker 3>Sho