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Speaker 1: This is II on the Ball Breaking news on Fox
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Speaker 3: Arizona has been announced to be playing in the Battle
Speaker 3: for Atlanta's tournament in November, alongside Davidson, Providence, Oklahoma, Gonzaga,
Speaker 3: West Virginia, Indiana, and Louisville.
Speaker 2: So we talked about that. We talked about that about
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, if you remember, and some guy, uh,
Speaker 2: we talked about Gonzaga too, and then some guys said
Speaker 2: they could have a chance of playing Gonzaga, So that
Speaker 2: could happen in the championship game.
Speaker 4: Have they have they set the matchup?
Speaker 3: I think so Arizona's playing Davidson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're gonna be on both both ends of the
Speaker 2: uh of the of the tournament. So if they keep winning,
Speaker 2: happened and we're going to be here and they're going
Speaker 2: to be there damn it. What days are those? What
Speaker 2: what dates? I had to book my flight right now?
Speaker 2: They've never been out there.
Speaker 3: There's also a chance they could play ballo.
Speaker 4: In Indiana is going to be there? Yeah, are.
Speaker 2: Like the early.
Speaker 3: Twenty seventh to twenty.
Speaker 2: Ninth of November.
Speaker 4: Oh that's the weekend after Thanksgiving Thanks.
Speaker 2: Week, Thanksgiving weekend. Yeah, tour is done. Yeah, hey, okay.
Speaker 3: Eleven Arizona players have been named to the preseason Senior
Speaker 3: Bowl watch List. Tyler Luke, Gunner, Maldonado, t mac To,
Speaker 3: Carlo Davis, Justin Flow, Jacob Manu, Jonas, Savanea Shabba Mayi,
Speaker 3: Trey Smith, trade and stuts and quality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, who do you think for that?
Speaker 4: Jack Fish?
Speaker 2: Jack Fish? Of course, yeah, you don't thank Jim Fish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean he and he deserves
Speaker 4: to be thanked for that. You'd be brought in quality talent.
Speaker 4: And then you gotta thank bred Brennan for keeping.
Speaker 2: It, keeping them mirror right, and the kids too for
Speaker 2: wanting to.
Speaker 4: Be here, and the kids for staying.
Speaker 2: Who do we have who do we have? Who talked
Speaker 2: about this? Uh that the kids, you know, putting it
Speaker 2: together and deciding to stay and who did we have
Speaker 2: to today's Wednesday? Who do we have Monday?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Somebody who kind of said that to us where that's
Speaker 2: it was a big deal. Maybe maybe it was Yeah,
Speaker 2: who said, you know, there's a lot to do that
Speaker 2: they they could have left. Yeah, they all left and
Speaker 2: they decided not to go.
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated's Top twenty five was released today and Arizona
Speaker 3: was not ranking.
Speaker 2: Back.
Speaker 4: There's many people ranking them as are not. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know that whole thing about oh Arizona's overrated and all
Speaker 4: these places, Well, yeah, but they're underrated.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you there, top twenty five team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so, you know, yeah, I mean right, I
Speaker 4: think we can say that without but they're they're in
Speaker 4: that area where in the twenty to twenty five range
Speaker 4: where you know.
Speaker 2: Could go either way. Yeah, So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Something came up this week and someone said, oh, that's
Speaker 2: bulletin board material for somebody, And I'm thinking, I don't
Speaker 2: having been an ex athlete, I can't remember, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure it did. Do you think did bulletin board material
Speaker 2: motivate you? And do you think it you need to
Speaker 2: have that to motivate you?
Speaker 4: Don't need to have that, but sometimes you get it,
Speaker 4: so you use it. Example, so when I was coaching
Speaker 4: assistant coach for Saint Gregor.
Speaker 2: The mead streets of Saint Gregor mean streets.
Speaker 4: Of Saint Gregory, right, and it's a Saturday doubleheader. He
Speaker 4: le Ben is coming down the right streets and they
Speaker 4: were number one in the state, in our in our division,
Speaker 4: so you know, and it's at our place. So we're
Speaker 4: in our dug out there and they're dugout and we
Speaker 4: hear their pregame talk and the coach says, what we
Speaker 4: all heard, what the whole team heard, was let's show
Speaker 4: them why we're number one, all right, And our guys
Speaker 4: played their best game of the year because of that, right,
Speaker 4: Because then we got an old said, they don't respect you.
Speaker 4: They're coming here, they're coming here to kick your ass.
Speaker 4: They have no respect for you. They think you got
Speaker 4: no chance. And we beat him in the first game
Speaker 4: of the double hair.
Speaker 2: How did you not heard that? Have they not said that?
Speaker 4: I thought our guys were intimidated because they because they
Speaker 4: had a kid who was going to be a Division one,
Speaker 4: their catcher and he was a pitcher, was going to
Speaker 4: be a Division one player he was getting I think
Speaker 4: I think I ended up getting recruited to Utah. But
Speaker 4: are kids heard that, and so our coach and we said, look,
Speaker 4: they think they're just coming here to kick your ass,
Speaker 4: play two five Indian games and go home. And we
Speaker 4: and we used it and we beat him in the
Speaker 4: first game and it was a huge win for us.
Speaker 4: And then they se.
Speaker 2: The the Gonzales guy that I know that should have
Speaker 2: done this next week, give them five bucks, dead bucks,
Speaker 2: could you say something scrap about us to motivate our
Speaker 2: kids to play it.
Speaker 4: But we knew we had just pissed them off because
Speaker 4: they came out and they just obliterated this in the
Speaker 4: second game.
Speaker 2: Because the guy that was going to Utah pissed the
Speaker 2: next game.
Speaker 4: But they were really mad.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Arizona Gymnastics has hired Shelby Martinez to join the coaching
Speaker 3: staff as an assistant coach. She was second team All
Speaker 3: Packed twelve and Packed twelve Cobalt champion back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: Arizon.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, that program too is kind of like
Speaker 2: under the radar.
Speaker 4: Well you know, but it's been It's one of those
Speaker 4: programs that's been in a very tough league. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting to see how some of these programs,
Speaker 4: like like volleyball, like women's basketball, like uh, you know soccer,
Speaker 4: that soccer that are you know where the packed the
Speaker 4: Packed twelve in women's sports, it's tough and pretty much
Speaker 4: every sport, right, Tennis, all those golf we're gonna see. Now, Okay,
Speaker 4: now they're in the Big twelve. How does you know
Speaker 4: are they do they finish higher in there, in in
Speaker 4: in the league by being continued to be basically the
Speaker 4: same program, right, you know, it's interesting to see that.
Speaker 2: I'll say yes, just to say yes. But when you
Speaker 2: have Stanford and you have those type of.
Speaker 4: Teams of the usc usc UCLA who.
Speaker 2: Are fantastic in the Olympic sports, right, but Stanford specifically,
Speaker 2: it's tough to get through that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Michie to see where, you know, women's basketball,
Speaker 4: because look they've got you know, Baylor's you know, won
Speaker 4: national championships and all that stuff. So but it's interesting
Speaker 4: to see how basketball turn women's basketball turns out. With
Speaker 4: moving to the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: The Broncos have named Bo Nicks their starting quarterback for
Speaker 3: a week one.
Speaker 2: I love that guy.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 2: Might be too strong, but he thought of the world
Speaker 2: of him last year, even thought he before Penix was Penix,
Speaker 2: that he was better than Penix, and then Panicx beat
Speaker 2: him twice. So but he's he's a solid dude. He's
Speaker 2: a solid dude. Like thirty five years old, he's twenty
Speaker 2: five in the somebody that twenty four five.
Speaker 4: Well, he played like six years in college, did didn't he?
Speaker 3: He started twenty nineteen? I'm pretty sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame Warriors player, coach and GM Al Addles
Speaker 3: has died at Alvin Attles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he passed away this morning.
Speaker 4: How old was he?
Speaker 3: Eighty seven?
Speaker 4: Oh good? Yeah, he stuck. I didn't want to I
Speaker 4: didn't want to hear to say he was sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of those dudes are done too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, i'n you know, great great basketball name.
Speaker 2: Didn't he play for the Suns?
Speaker 4: He played for the Sun at one point. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else we have? Did you have something?
Speaker 7: Jay?
Speaker 4: No, Steve, I've been I've not big. Well that's right
Speaker 4: on social media all day day.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we have some you have some lines open,
Speaker 2: you guys want to call. I know there was something
Speaker 2: else I wanted to talk about that how the U
Speaker 2: of A ties to it. Uh So, so if you
Speaker 2: see Sean around town, you'll see probably Kenny Lofton as well,
Speaker 2: Harvey Mason, Joe Turner, some of those guys, Ben and Davison.
Speaker 2: So they'll be around around town. Uh, just in case.
Speaker 4: Watch some people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people do because you know, old friends. They
Speaker 2: invite the friends. The media comes out and uh and this,
Speaker 2: but they're not playing, they're coaching.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And there's nobody more intens than Pete Williams.
Speaker 4: You know how you know our fan they want to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they take some stuff to have
Speaker 2: them signed, stuff, especially Kenny. You know, Kenny is still
Speaker 2: that guy. Just a swig of waters. Yeah, man, what
Speaker 2: else anything else with the with the world.
Speaker 4: Well, no, you know, just you know, just why watching
Speaker 4: a lot of baseball, it's it's been fun. As much
Speaker 4: as I I just want the Dodgers to win, you know,
Speaker 4: the division. It is fun actually that there's a pendent race. Now.
Speaker 4: I watched some of the Diamondbacks game yesterday, you know,
Speaker 4: because you know they're in the heels with the with
Speaker 4: the with the Diamondbacks. And then obviously I watch every
Speaker 4: Dodger game. Now it's a going to Dodger Stadium Saturday,
Speaker 4: so I'm fired up for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just you just have the one game, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's gonna who's the entire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my tire family's going. This is a We set
Speaker 4: this up as as a birthday trip for me for
Speaker 4: my sixty fifth birthday. We did a similar thing on
Speaker 4: my sixtieth, So the whole clan with the grandson.
Speaker 2: And I've said it all day to day. Your wife
Speaker 2: most really love you.
Speaker 4: She does.
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta ask her what the hell she sees
Speaker 2: in you, because I will see it.
Speaker 4: You can't see the charm just sitting across from me right.
Speaker 2: Here, Henry, Do you see it? You have younger eyes?
Speaker 4: Come on, Harry, he sees it.
Speaker 2: Who's doing your evaluation?
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's not to say you're not charming.
Speaker 2: I know I'm charming. Get a little funniness. Yes, we're
Speaker 2: talking about some dumb ass jokes here, and he's like, God,
Speaker 2: I have to sit through this.
Speaker 4: We're a little cuddly, though, don't you think to just
Speaker 4: not go there like that?
Speaker 2: Saying she's cute, We're cuddly, we're squeezy.
Speaker 4: You know, somebody can just kind of you're making me
Speaker 4: come and give us a big hug.
Speaker 2: He just threw over my mouth.
Speaker 4: My grandson gives me a hug every day when he
Speaker 4: leaves and I see him, he comes, he gives me.
Speaker 2: What can you talk?
Speaker 4: He's starting to say words, what you know, but you
Speaker 4: know he's he's saying word he's starting to you know, uh,
Speaker 4: he's saying names. You know, my aunt and my aunt,
Speaker 4: my my sister who takes care of him quite a bit,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, my daughters and everybody. So he
Speaker 4: s he says most of the names you can tell.
Speaker 4: You know, he says certain types of food, he's certain
Speaker 4: certain times of animals, certain animals. So you know, he's
Speaker 4: starting to get words. He's twenty months.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's walking around now. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 2: because that happens to walk ten.
Speaker 4: He's a Tasmanian devil at our house. He's uh, I mean,
Speaker 4: he's he's a cyclone. When he comes over our places,
Speaker 4: he just.
Speaker 2: Trashes the place, and you the grandfather loves.
Speaker 4: It and then we pick it up and goes home.
Speaker 4: And then he comes back and does it again.
Speaker 2: Your kids do that? What the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh well, growing up, you know we we could. You
Speaker 4: couldn't leave toys on oh yeah, or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So so your kids are pushing. Had we done this,
Speaker 2: mom and dad, you would have killed us. Little junior here.
Speaker 4: Grandkids could get away with way more than kids.
Speaker 2: Pooped in the corner. Look how cute that is? Oh what? Ok?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh, he's a terror. I shouldn't call him
Speaker 4: a terror, that that implies a bad thing. He just
Speaker 4: he runs around the house and he gets into stuff
Speaker 4: and he does things. And we've got all kinds of
Speaker 4: toys and stuff for are you'd think we had the kid?
Speaker 4: I mean, you think we were the parents of the kid.
Speaker 2: No, that's you being a typical grand parent exactly. And
Speaker 2: then he goes away in your fund.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he yeah, he goes to sleep somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4: Although I think we're scheduling sleepover for him over over
Speaker 4: Labor Day weekend. I'm like, it can't it can't be.
Speaker 4: It can't be like the night before a tailgate or
Speaker 4: the day after games. It might have to be like Monday. Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: not just that. It just the day after a football
Speaker 4: game is just it's like a hangover. Even though I
Speaker 4: don't drink heavily, the day after a football game is
Speaker 4: like it might as well be a hangover. You have
Speaker 4: to get you know, just shut down for the day
Speaker 4: and get over it. That's just the way it is
Speaker 4: for us. So, but you know, for those you got
Speaker 4: grandkids out there, I'm sure you're in the same way.
Speaker 4: Our kid. Our grandkid could do anything he wants. He
Speaker 4: could set the house on fire, and we'll find somebody
Speaker 4: else to blame it.
Speaker 2: On, not my son. So let me say ask you
Speaker 2: this kind of switches about. We only have two minus anyway,
Speaker 2: uh in order for the Arizona football team, I may
Speaker 2: have asked you this question already to succeed, especially the
Speaker 2: early offense defense, uh I.
Speaker 4: I I think the Big the Big twelve is seen
Speaker 4: as a conference, so you gotta score points. You score
Speaker 4: a lot of points. Now, the defenses maybe aren't what
Speaker 4: you know you see in other leagues, but I think
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to put a lot of points on
Speaker 4: the board because they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Score more than they did in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 4: I think so because there's no d Like, if they
Speaker 4: have a really good defense, then they're gonna you know,
Speaker 4: they're gonna kill it, but they're gonna have to outscore
Speaker 4: some people. I think, you know, some of the you know,
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of good quarterbacks in the league. But
Speaker 4: what you know, what it seems to me and talent
Speaker 4: wise at least, is that Arizona's I think they might
Speaker 4: have a pretty good balance. Yeah, I think they're going
Speaker 4: to be really good offensively. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 4: really good defensively. The question is how good offensively? How
Speaker 4: good defensively? And does one is one you know, a
Speaker 4: bigger factor than the other. We're just gonna have to
Speaker 4: find out to find that out as it goes along.
Speaker 4: I don't know. See, that's the mystery of you know,
Speaker 4: going to the Big twelve. We don't know what this
Speaker 4: is what the other teams do right? Well?
Speaker 2: In the in the sports Illud poll you gotta go,
Speaker 2: uh it had West.
Speaker 4: Virginia twenty five and they haven't been ranked anywhere else
Speaker 4: as far as I can saying, what's the mystery there? Yeah?
Speaker 4: What are we missing exactly?
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to go get ahold of Care out
Speaker 2: here on the other side.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera and Jacob Salas they have their Eye on
Speaker 1: the Ball on Tucson's sports station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eye the Ball here Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, PE's Jackins, also known the Phone.
Speaker 2: We have Mike Candrea, Hall of Fame softball coach at
Speaker 2: u of A. Mike, how are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing great? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing well. I'm wondering why aren't you on a
Speaker 2: bike ride for one thousand mile like Dave Rubio and
Speaker 2: spend your time you retirement doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just doesn't.
Speaker 2: Make sense, you know, right right, not how I want
Speaker 2: to spit my retirement. We're going to get ahold of
Speaker 2: him when him comes back home. But is life good
Speaker 2: for you? Life good for you?
Speaker 5: Life is really good for me. Yes. Just just returned
Speaker 5: from Pennsylvania watching the Little League World Series, you know,
Speaker 5: which was on my bucket list.
Speaker 2: And yeah, how cool is that? Why you did it?
Speaker 5: Well, I had an opportunity to go back, and I
Speaker 5: had a former manager that lives in Williamsport, and so
Speaker 5: I got a chance to visit with him, and then
Speaker 5: jess Mondeza, of course is doing the broadcast, got to
Speaker 5: visit with her. And then I did a little bit
Speaker 5: of stuff for Little League. They're celebrating fifty years of
Speaker 5: women nice and it was an opportunity to do a
Speaker 5: little blurb for them and then watch the Yankees. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: it was a great event, I mean unbelievable to be
Speaker 5: that close to the right, the to the accent, very
Speaker 5: intimate setting, and I happen to leave in the in
Speaker 5: the in the ninth inning. And then the Yankees, stead
Speaker 5: of losing a game.
Speaker 2: Right, No, that's must have been a fantastic for the kids,
Speaker 2: especially in people like you who have this love for
Speaker 2: the Yankees.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a wonderful event. You know. I told
Speaker 5: someone the other day, I remember walking into the Yankee
Speaker 5: Stadium for the first time back in the day and
Speaker 5: had chills up and down my spine. And then I
Speaker 5: walked in the Lamede Stadium in Williams Sport and had
Speaker 5: the same feeling. Well, you know, it's just amazing being
Speaker 5: able to watch that for years and being close to
Speaker 5: getting there as a as a kid and a player,
Speaker 5: but I never got there, and so this was a
Speaker 5: great opportunity and it's just a wonderful event.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, how close were you to getting there?
Speaker 5: Well, we got beat. I want to go back and
Speaker 5: think that we got beat in the regional Wow. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: but yeah that was about about it, you know. But
Speaker 5: it's just it's a great age group, you know, ten
Speaker 5: to twelve years old, and to watch these kids, the
Speaker 5: talent level has just been unbelievable. I mean, the games
Speaker 5: are really close and good and they actually get the
Speaker 5: game well and it's it's fun to watch.
Speaker 2: So so let's stay there for a little bit. We
Speaker 2: had the the Wilcox coach on I don't know, maybe Monday,
Speaker 2: I think it was Monday Softball, and you know their story, right,
Speaker 2: and we're thinking, how in the world did that happen?
Speaker 2: This will this tiny town in Wilcox, has this fantastic
Speaker 2: team get that far and does it with a coach
Speaker 2: like you or you know, when you were actually coaching,
Speaker 2: start looking at girls that age.
Speaker 5: No, not really, I mean it's at that level. It
Speaker 5: usually comes down to the same thing in balid softball,
Speaker 5: and that's pitching, you know, and sometimes you have that
Speaker 5: it's in a lifetime kid that you know, we have
Speaker 5: a kid today that I was watching throwing eighty miles
Speaker 5: an hour. That's one hundred and something miles an hour
Speaker 5: in baseball, and that can make you competitive pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you had yours right of course.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you do it, because I've had the
Speaker 4: good fortune have to be able to go there. I
Speaker 4: was a long time ago, but seeing that whole atmosphere
Speaker 4: at the Little League World Series and what has become now,
Speaker 4: you know where they built the second stadium and they've
Speaker 4: got all those things going on around there. Then with
Speaker 4: ESPN over there. I mean that that whole atmosphere has
Speaker 4: to be, as you said, you know, kind of a
Speaker 4: bucket listing. For you to have been able to see
Speaker 4: all of that.
Speaker 5: It's it's just it's unbelievable. You know, you watched it
Speaker 5: for years and you don't really get an understanding of
Speaker 5: how grand the place really is. Now it's just fabulous
Speaker 5: with the two beautiful fields. I have practice fields, I
Speaker 5: have a beautiful gift shop. They have uh you know,
Speaker 5: the the barracks where the kids stay. It's just a
Speaker 5: phenomenal facility. And I'm very well kept up and and
Speaker 5: very well attended. I mean there was tons of people there,
Speaker 5: but just just yeah, a very fun, wholesome atmosphere. They
Speaker 5: don't serve beer, you know they It just takes it
Speaker 5: back to your your childhood days playing the game for
Speaker 5: the love of the game.
Speaker 2: Right. Good, Then you don't have parents yelling at the
Speaker 2: kids going crazy. You know, are they doing that beer
Speaker 2: or no beer? Right? Yeah? Yeah, So so I was
Speaker 2: going to touch you. We talked to quickly two weeks
Speaker 2: ago at least communicated and wanted to have you on.
Speaker 2: And the Olympics were going on. They did not have softball,
Speaker 2: it'll come back. How cool is that they're coming back?
Speaker 2: And then Jay of course lets me know it's all
Speaker 2: going to be in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm excited that, you know, softba'll be back on
Speaker 5: the program in LA. And I was a little disappointed
Speaker 5: when I found out that they were going to do
Speaker 5: the event in Oklahoma City. And the only reason why
Speaker 5: I say that is because one of the greatest experiences
Speaker 5: as an Olympian is being in the village right with
Speaker 5: all the other athletes. And I don't know how they're
Speaker 5: going to handle that, but I sure hope that the
Speaker 5: softball and baseball guys get a chance to be a
Speaker 5: part of the village. But I understand why they're doing
Speaker 5: it in Oklahoma City. I mean, you got a great
Speaker 5: facility that they can put fifteen thousand people in and
Speaker 5: it will be packed, no doubt. But I was hoping
Speaker 5: that maybe they would use Dodger Stadium, and I think
Speaker 5: they're going to use Dodger Stadium for baseball from what
Speaker 5: I heard, but I guess they're not willing to transform
Speaker 5: the field into a softball field for softball.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that would be kind of Goofy. Anyways,
Speaker 4: didn't they do that? I don't know if it was
Speaker 4: a World Championship or a the Olympics in the past
Speaker 4: where the softball was on a on a baseball field
Speaker 4: that was in Tokyo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, see, it's very common in Japan. I mean that
Speaker 5: they play a lot of games on a baseball field,
Speaker 5: but they're all turf field, which is completely different. But
Speaker 5: I think that's something that, you know, the to try
Speaker 5: to stay in the Olympic Games, we've got to find
Speaker 5: a way to get facilities that are reasonable. I mean,
Speaker 5: you think think about where I have been in Greece.
Speaker 5: They built a beautiful stadium, and then they have to
Speaker 5: build free practice fields and then they have to build
Speaker 5: a baseball stadium and practice fields and it's a pretty
Speaker 5: big investment.
Speaker 2: Does it Does it feel like twenty years ago?
Speaker 5: Well for you, absolutely not. I mean I have to
Speaker 5: I have to pinch myself that I'm I'm I'm going
Speaker 5: to be the ages that I am. You know, It's
Speaker 5: like where did all the time go? Yeah, it just
Speaker 5: seemed like yesterday day.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite memories of uh and I've
Speaker 2: said this to you a few times, Mike Uh.
Speaker 5: My.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite memories of the Olympics when I
Speaker 2: was there covering it and covering you specifically and the
Speaker 2: team uh is you uh this is two thousand now, uh,
Speaker 2: you winning the gold medal and you not celebrating with
Speaker 2: the girls or the women, but you watching them enjoy
Speaker 2: their moment.
Speaker 5: Mmh. Yeah, That's that's kind of what it's all about,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, the journey is probably the toughest
Speaker 5: part of it, and then trying to play your best softball,
Speaker 5: you know, in those five or seven days that you
Speaker 5: have to compete. It's it's pretty challenging, but but ultimately
Speaker 5: just to watch the life changing experience for these kids
Speaker 5: is really what it's all about.
Speaker 2: Maybe if I could when I'm sure you know you're
Speaker 2: friendly with Steve Kerr. He joked about it the other
Speaker 2: night at the r n C UH giving the VP
Speaker 2: some grief about being a coach and you know, and
Speaker 2: being getting criticized a little. H He gets criticized all
Speaker 2: the time, obviously being the Glarriors coach and the Team
Speaker 2: USA guy. Did you feel pressure at those times in
Speaker 2: the Team USA team where you had to win gold
Speaker 2: because you were expected to win gold?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean it's that that is definitely the standard
Speaker 5: of representing the United States. You know, it's they had
Speaker 5: done nothing but win gold, and so yeah, there was
Speaker 5: there's a lot of pressure. I mean it you control
Speaker 5: what you can't control, and you don't say that. You
Speaker 5: keep saying that it's not going to affect you, but
Speaker 5: you know, when you get in the arena and you're
Speaker 5: playing for the gold medal, it's there's a lot of
Speaker 5: the line and I'm just I'm very thankful that I
Speaker 5: had an experience where I could feel the the thrill
Speaker 5: of winning a gold medal, but then I also have
Speaker 5: an experience of agonizing over a silver medal in two
Speaker 5: thousand and eight in Beijing.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, all right, so let's talk about your uo
Speaker 4: A stuff. What are you doing well.
Speaker 5: I am just basically a part of the leadership team
Speaker 5: for Desiree and trying to help her out any way
Speaker 5: I can. I'm not really doing much right now. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but with school starting up and getting into the swing
Speaker 5: of things, it'll be you know, being able to go
Speaker 5: to go to some events and start moving around and
Speaker 5: talking to some of the coaches and see what kind
Speaker 5: of challenges they have and try to help them out.
Speaker 2: You are the suit sayer of the I mean you
Speaker 2: you were when you were there anyway, they did go
Speaker 2: to you for advice. I mean, I'm sure that's the
Speaker 2: same thing going on now, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's been it's been fun. I mean, we've
Speaker 5: got a great group of coaches, and we've got some
Speaker 5: new faces this year, you know, a new woman's golf coach,
Speaker 5: and you know, being able to follow Rita and her
Speaker 5: her challenges after following Dave Rubio and that it's been
Speaker 5: fun and I think she's well in her way. But
Speaker 5: now the movement into the Big twelve has been a
Speaker 5: whole other set of challenges, you know, to be able
Speaker 5: to make sure that we're prepared for that move and
Speaker 5: being able to compete against some different people and going
Speaker 5: to some different places. It's and and and the immediate
Speaker 5: part of it, you know, being having to build another
Speaker 5: center for you know, for being able to broadcast these games.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be it's gonna be a challenge, but I
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a good, good challenge.
Speaker 4: Well, and you were you were there long enough that
Speaker 4: you went you know, you went through a number of
Speaker 4: leadership changes that a new athletic directors even some you know,
Speaker 4: you have a presidents and whatnot, and we've all done
Speaker 4: that in the places that that we've worked. But then
Speaker 4: you throw in the change is going to the Big twelve?
Speaker 4: How different or do things feel different around McHale? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, there's sort of what whatever the
Speaker 4: air or atmosphere is, what's that like? And how is
Speaker 4: it different with you know, uh Desires not Dave Hekey.
Speaker 4: You know, they're two different, very different people. Can you
Speaker 4: tell that it feels different?
Speaker 5: Well, it does feel different because I think she came
Speaker 5: in with a lot of different sets of circumstances that
Speaker 5: have to be addressed and addressed very quickly. So I
Speaker 5: think she's finally you know, getting her staff around her
Speaker 5: that she feels good about. And then she's looking at
Speaker 5: some of the challenges that we're going to have to face.
Speaker 5: And I think she's doing a good job of putting
Speaker 5: the right people in the right places. And I think
Speaker 5: right now we're just kind of biting, you know, biting
Speaker 5: it for that first competition, right you know, with football
Speaker 5: starting and and I think it's going to be a
Speaker 5: learning year for all of us. But she's very talented,
Speaker 5: and I think we've got a lot of good people
Speaker 5: around her. And you know, there's no doubt in my
Speaker 5: mind that the expectations are high. We want to not
Speaker 5: just compete in the Big twelve, we want to win
Speaker 5: in the Big twelve. And so there's a lot of
Speaker 5: different areas that we have to get better at. And
Speaker 5: I think that's just about everyone around the country right now.
Speaker 5: With the nature of college athletics and you know the
Speaker 5: NIL and the transfer portal, it's not just coaching anymore.
Speaker 5: It's almost you have to have a general manager to
Speaker 5: take care of all the things that gets you to
Speaker 5: the field to start being able to coach. And I
Speaker 5: think ads are a lot like that right now. They've
Speaker 5: got a whole different set of circumstances that they have
Speaker 5: to deal with every day. And so I think it
Speaker 5: should be a fun year and a challenging year and
Speaker 5: looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Bear with me with this question, because you opened the
Speaker 2: door that I was talking what you were talking about yesterday.
Speaker 2: Schools are in trouble financially. I don't need to tell
Speaker 2: you that because you know, and in various ways, I
Speaker 2: guess yesterday or two days ago, Alabama just paid their
Speaker 2: GM of football eight and twenty five thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: year for three years. And I guess that's the way
Speaker 2: the world in football, gms and recruiting coordinators getting all
Speaker 2: this money. I'm thinking, what in the world back in
Speaker 2: our day when we covered teams like you Dick told
Speaker 2: Me's know that gms that work didn't exist. It was
Speaker 2: it was they were out working. They had multiple positions,
Speaker 2: multiple jobs. And I'm thinking, this is the reason why
Speaker 2: you guys or colleges are in trouble financially. They got
Speaker 2: all these titles with five people when one guy used
Speaker 2: to be the guy.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that the deregulation has caused a lot
Speaker 5: of this, and so you have a whole different set
Speaker 5: of circumstances that you have to deal with. And so
Speaker 5: I think right now people are trying to think outside
Speaker 5: the box and find ways that they can they can
Speaker 5: deal with the you know, the the d NIL situation
Speaker 5: and paying players and you know transferport. I mean, I
Speaker 5: didn't have to worry about re recruiting kids every year,
Speaker 5: and now we have to. So it's just a completely
Speaker 5: different world out there right now. And I'm not saying
Speaker 5: it's a bad world. But I'm saying that, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: kind of glad I got out of it when I did,
Speaker 5: because it's not what I signed up for.
Speaker 2: No, we talk about that with you and Dave, all
Speaker 2: these guys in Andy who got out right in time.
Speaker 2: But you were in that spot for I don't know,
Speaker 2: a couple of months, two three months. Did it feel
Speaker 2: comfortable or you should get me that hell out of here?
Speaker 5: Well, every day felt like a month. But no, it's
Speaker 5: it's you know, the challenges are there, and it's just
Speaker 5: like anything else, you know, I mean, the game's changed
Speaker 5: right now. You look at all the analytics that are
Speaker 5: being used right now in the game, and so you
Speaker 5: either have to make a decision whether you're going to
Speaker 5: play the game at that level or you're going to
Speaker 5: fall behind. And I kind of look at it like golf.
Speaker 5: You know, you either play with good equipment or you
Speaker 5: get beat by good equipment. And I think the same
Speaker 5: thing here. You know, you're just trying to find ways
Speaker 5: to make sure you're taking care of the present situation
Speaker 5: that you're in and and and then also be able
Speaker 5: to compete at the higher levels. And it's it's a
Speaker 5: challenge right now. It's I don't think that there's any
Speaker 5: clear cut answers right now. I think every school is
Speaker 5: a little bit different how they're dealing with it. But
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's still about the
Speaker 5: student athlete. It's about giving them a great experience and
Speaker 5: then competing for championships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. One of our last question for me
Speaker 2: because I asked these questions of all the coaches. So,
Speaker 2: you have a talented group of players, you had a
Speaker 2: number of them, obviously, you are who you are in
Speaker 2: the softball world. What's more important if you can distinguish
Speaker 2: a great players or very good coach? I mean, what's
Speaker 2: more important?
Speaker 5: Well, I think they go hand in hand. I think
Speaker 5: you have to have great players. I mean, that's going
Speaker 5: to be the foundation of any success, is having talent,
Speaker 5: and so I think that's the number one to me.
Speaker 5: And then I think coaches. You know, great coaches can
Speaker 5: develop a culture of excellence and hold people accountable. And
Speaker 5: so if you have great players that aren't held accountable,
Speaker 5: you're not going to be very good. Yeah, But if
Speaker 5: you have good players that will hold each other accountable
Speaker 5: and and coaches that can set a clear expectation and
Speaker 5: vision of what they want. I think that's why some
Speaker 5: people win and some people don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that's a great explanation. Okay, Mike,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you all the time, of course, thank you,
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, appreciate you, Mike Candrea, Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: SOCTOCAP coach. Yeah no, I thought the explanation because if
Speaker 2: you don't have you could have great players. But if
Speaker 2: they're not on the same page, and we've seen that,
Speaker 2: we've seen that great players, what the hell's wrong with
Speaker 2: this team? We don't know until later that they don't
Speaker 2: like you to find out right, right, right? So okay,
Speaker 2: let's take off and come back.
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Speaker 1: on the ball on Tucson Sports Big Jet, Fox Sports
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Why on the Ball here, Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's JAKINSAF got a
Speaker 2: guy Henry in today. We got fifteen minutes. Who you'd
Speaker 2: like to call? We'll keep an eye on the phone
Speaker 2: and five two oho fours, one, six, seventy four, forty.
Speaker 2: What do you have, Jay?
Speaker 4: Well, an interesting thing just came across CBS Sports did
Speaker 4: a poll of one hundred college coaches. Are the college coaches? Seconds?
Speaker 4: A poll of a of one hundred Division one man's
Speaker 4: basketball coaches asking which schools have the best nil programs? Okay,
Speaker 4: they listed according to this graphic, they listed eighteen schools.
Speaker 4: First of all, the obvious question is where do you
Speaker 4: think Arizona fel and the answer is not in the
Speaker 4: top eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, Jay, given who we've talked
Speaker 2: to and kind of the people that I know. But
Speaker 2: but you know what too, Tommy, Tommy, and he's gone
Speaker 2: on the record a number of times. I guess what
Speaker 2: else is he gonna say he doesn't want the kids.
Speaker 2: He wants the kids. He wants Arizona to stand on
Speaker 2: its own, right. If you're coming here, you want to
Speaker 2: play basketball.
Speaker 4: To be you want to be at Arizona.
Speaker 2: I want to be at Arizona. Not because of the money, correct,
Speaker 2: and that he've said that a number of times. We're
Speaker 2: going to give you some scratch, but not a lot.
Speaker 2: We don't expect a lot. But this is the pathway
Speaker 2: to be making more money.
Speaker 4: Down the and you think about you got to think
Speaker 4: about that, right.
Speaker 2: Right, And and maybe that's why he can will get
Speaker 2: concrusion them in the future. But you're depending a lot
Speaker 2: on that blockade man. Yeah, and the history of the program.
Speaker 4: Again, with this still more or less in its infancy,
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see what what does
Speaker 4: become important to players, you know, And there are gonna
Speaker 4: be players who think it's about the money. You know,
Speaker 4: Lumar Balo went to Indiana for what they say, a
Speaker 4: million dollar dollars, right right, you know we heard that,
Speaker 4: Caleb Love and and and and Keishad Johnson, we're getting
Speaker 4: four hundred grand each. Where did that money come from?
Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be interesting to see. All right,
Speaker 4: I'll give you a I'll give you a doll I'll
Speaker 4: give you five dollars if you can guess the number
Speaker 4: one team, and I'll just tie right now. That's not
Speaker 4: a blue blood. It's not a not a blue blood.
Speaker 2: Well, I got I have one more because I took
Speaker 2: two guesses, right, I came up not Kansas, Okay, not Cansas,
Speaker 2: because you know what was the other one? I said?
Speaker 2: Kansas Indiana Indiana. That's five. Okay, So here's my here's
Speaker 2: my next and only obvious choice. And I haven't looked.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked only because I'm saying this because they
Speaker 2: spent a ton of money in other sports. Texas seventeen,
Speaker 2: they're seventeen. Yes, wow, that takes a priority. They must
Speaker 2: be spending a ton of money in football football. I don't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have a clue.
Speaker 4: Then I'll say it's an SEC team. Kentucky, No, Kentucky's
Speaker 4: four Holy Arkansas Arkansas my obviously because of Patina, yeah
Speaker 4: with uh.
Speaker 6: With with you know, and then they've gotten Patina, Walmart,
Speaker 6: not Potato Calif they've got Walmart over there, actually have
Speaker 6: waited Arkansas number Arkansas number one, Kansas number two.
Speaker 4: Number three is going to shock you too. Not a
Speaker 4: power for school? Oh wait they are now, they now
Speaker 4: are a power for school. Tell me why you really?
Speaker 2: Yes, really, those rich Mormons over there and they're getting good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got Kentucky and you and Iowa.
Speaker 2: But they have a new coach. I'm not Iowa Illinois
Speaker 2: because the coach went from BUYU to Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Mark Pope, Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well let's see if it equates into national titles. Cali
Speaker 2: party to me, I've seen this one thousand times. He's
Speaker 2: overrated as a college basketball coach.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: But but he can.
Speaker 4: Do and if the money's gonna buy players, you know, players,
Speaker 4: don't see what he can do with that. He's Look,
Speaker 4: he was already getting the best players at Kentucky. How
Speaker 4: is that going to change what he accomplishes at Arkansas? Right,
Speaker 4: because it's not like he again, yeah, I mean he
Speaker 4: had the best players pretty much on the court every
Speaker 4: time he played so well, Okay, all right, and the
Speaker 4: Rezonta's not in the top Arizona's not in the top
Speaker 4: eight team.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: They did get they did they did get some votes. Okay,
Speaker 4: but they're not on the top eighteen.
Speaker 2: This is who's voting.
Speaker 4: The coaching coaches, one hundred Division one coaches.
Speaker 2: And now would they know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: How would they know from what they hear from other
Speaker 4: players and stuff like why do.
Speaker 2: You think that Arizona doesn't It's probably just.
Speaker 4: About how much money the program has, right, So, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: And the people who follow them, the people who follow them,
Speaker 2: what are the things that we've had. We've had the
Speaker 2: the nil guys. They're no longer with them, Adam and
Speaker 2: Lazarus than those guys. Uh and and I've we promoted them.
Speaker 2: I've seen them come in and join them. And the
Speaker 2: one thing that that I heard the most or heard
Speaker 2: the most from the guys or the people, where does
Speaker 2: the money go?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Where where's the money go? So if you have a
Speaker 2: question about that, guess what you're not going to do.
Speaker 2: You're not going to give any money. Give a hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: If the city gave a hundred bucks each, whatever, they'll
Speaker 2: be in the top eighteen. But the question is, okay,
Speaker 2: how are they using that money?
Speaker 4: And people saying, well, I don't want to pay players.
Speaker 4: I want to, I want to, I want I want
Speaker 4: this to go to facilities and arenas and stuff. I
Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, yeah, well I don't want to give
Speaker 4: this kid, you know, who's gonna come here for six
Speaker 4: months and take our money and go somewhere else rent
Speaker 4: to player, right, Okay, the next five, just start guessing.
Speaker 4: Who do you think could be in the next five?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, uh Texas?
Speaker 4: Uh the Zags know the Zags aren't on here. Okay
Speaker 4: to be where do you think you ukon faults?
Speaker 2: Oh wait wait? Oh top ten?
Speaker 4: Nope?
Speaker 2: Really, yep, they don't need that. Thirteen thirteen, Okay, what
Speaker 2: about the Oregon not in there? Oregon not in there
Speaker 2: because he has post basketball, So you're not talking about
Speaker 2: anybody in the West besides Buyu.
Speaker 4: Correct, yeah, this is b YU. The next the next uh, Florida, Florida. Nope,
Speaker 4: Texas Tech is then at eleven. God, this oil Baler
Speaker 4: is in at seven, Kansas State at six. So that's three.
Speaker 4: That's three Big twelve teams right there.
Speaker 2: Arizona's gonna be screwed. It's tough.
Speaker 4: It's somebody again, a not no, a not Power five
Speaker 4: school Memphis at sixteen. Fed X right, fed Ex headquarters.
Speaker 4: Where does North Carolina fall fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: This is this is just really this is gonna show
Speaker 2: there's money win championships. It shows a q C.
Speaker 4: It's not doing it right. Ohio States in there, but
Speaker 4: they're eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they're more they're they're football Michigan Nope,
Speaker 2: oh Man, Tennessee is in there, here's one, Illinois is
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ten yeah, wow, but Texas Tech is in at eleven.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is gonna be a big factor
Speaker 2: for winning.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out, Steve. It's gonna take with this,
Speaker 4: with this realignment and stuff. Right now that it's all
Speaker 4: settled and teams are in the conferences, they're gonna be
Speaker 4: in for a while. It's it's gonna be a thing
Speaker 4: to see how this settles and how much to find
Speaker 4: out over the next two three, four years how much
Speaker 4: money does matter?
Speaker 2: In fact, I just saw I just and you and
Speaker 2: you mentioned three big twelve teams right right ahead. And
Speaker 2: how's Arizona going to compete in that? Well, they're Arizona.
Speaker 2: They have to compete. They have to find players. I
Speaker 2: saw I think it was Pete the themil it could
Speaker 2: be somebody else. I'm sorry. I apologize who said that.
Speaker 2: The the conferences they're going to continue to to you know, change,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be We know that. It's no matter.
Speaker 4: This is this isn't what it's gonna be in five years.
Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna be big.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be big.
Speaker 4: Where do you think Duke falls?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, if you already got thirteen out of the way, eleven, twelve, okay,
Speaker 2: and and and then too, they're they're they're saying, we're
Speaker 2: Duke if you want.
Speaker 4: To come here, where's Alabama fall?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: They're big? I think six nine okay?
Speaker 4: Op ten? Because they have money, love lay have money.
Speaker 2: Why don't you think we're It's there's sonny that I
Speaker 2: wrote a while back that former athletes, suppcially hear are
Speaker 2: notorious for not giving back their money to the programs.
Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson did, Jim Purick, Taz and Steve Kerr obviously,
Speaker 2: but historically they make a ton of money, but they
Speaker 2: don't give it back to.
Speaker 4: The It's in the review mirror, man, it's in the
Speaker 4: review mirror. They're they're doing they're doing other things with
Speaker 4: their money. And too often they don't think about how
Speaker 4: they got there.
Speaker 2: How they got there, and it's notorious. I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean not just here.
Speaker 4: You know, how much money did Mike Bibby make and
Speaker 4: have we heard of him giving a bunch of No
Speaker 4: who else made it has made a bunch of money?
Speaker 2: Uh, well they've made that's what you know.
Speaker 4: We're les different, Well different did the gym.
Speaker 2: But damon, damon, Right, they may do it in other ways.
Speaker 4: And maybe they do, you know, and maybe they find
Speaker 4: ways to help it. That that that was actually a
Speaker 4: very big deal. I'm gonna say, fifteen years ago talking
Speaker 4: to you know in the gym liven good time, they
Speaker 4: that that there was really like zero money coming from
Speaker 4: from former athletes. And there were by that time there
Speaker 4: were a lot of basketball players particularly we made a
Speaker 4: lot of money in in in in the league, and
Speaker 4: none of it was coming back to Arizona. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that's you know, he needed a guy like Jefferson, Jefferson
Speaker 4: to do that to kind of get people triggered to
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I should help.
Speaker 2: I'll give you this. What about the in the shan era, right,
Speaker 2: not very many even who would have done it, who
Speaker 2: stayed here long enough to even feel like there were students.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean DeAndre Ayden isn't going to be given
Speaker 4: any of his money there, wouldn't You wouldn't even hear long.
Speaker 2: Enough to you know, Yeah, you know McConnell might, he's
Speaker 2: got that kind of you can he's got the kind
Speaker 2: of personality. Maybe Gordon, Aaron Gordon. Maybe I've Solomon Hill
Speaker 2: lasts a long time. But it's hard. It's hard to say, Jay,
Speaker 2: and it's to me, you and me, it would seem
Speaker 2: like a no brainer. I made millions of millions, why
Speaker 2: not to help you know, why not help it out?
Speaker 2: And how long will that help? Though? I'll give you
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, but don't bother me after that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I yeah no, I mean that. And
Speaker 4: and look, I'm sure Arizona's not the only school dealing
Speaker 4: with that, right again, these guys get in there, they
Speaker 4: make and look, we all know, we all hear the
Speaker 4: stories that guys get in there and they start doing
Speaker 4: things with their money and then find out they don't
Speaker 4: have it anymore. So there's a there's always that as well.
Speaker 4: So you know, what what do you you know, what
Speaker 4: do you do? I when I opened up this graphic.
Speaker 4: I was surprised to see Arkansas number one. And then
Speaker 4: you mentioned you reminded me that John Calipari went over there,
Speaker 4: and that's probably part of it, right, is that he
Speaker 4: went over there, probably started generating a bunch of money
Speaker 4: immediately kind of promised, we're going to give you a
Speaker 4: bunch of money.
Speaker 2: So something they did that was not a no brainer.
Speaker 2: That was they did something that wasn't.
Speaker 4: In his contract that they're supposed to be able to
Speaker 4: raise X ton of money. Money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh utah there because the we have kids, cars
Speaker 2: and trunks.
Speaker 4: Here here, here's the list one one to eighteen. You
Speaker 4: got Arkansas, Kansas BYU, which again stuns me, Kentucky, Indiana,
Speaker 4: Kansas State, Baylor, Louisville, Alabama, Illinois, Texas Tech, Duke, Yukon,
Speaker 4: North Carolina, Tennessee, Memphis, Texas, and Ohio State. That's the list,
Speaker 4: and then I think I think they've got also also
Speaker 4: receiving votes. Oh wait, Saint John's comes in after Ohio State.
Speaker 4: And then it said other programs that received at least
Speaker 4: one vote Arizona, Florida, Georgetown, McNee State, Ole, miss Oregon, Villanova,
Speaker 4: Washington for basketball nil programs.
Speaker 2: Washington.
Speaker 4: It's interesting to see Washington in there. Yeah, Villanova won
Speaker 4: a bunch of national championships. You know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I saw one of the posts. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you saw college basketball on Twitter? Did the blue
Speaker 2: blood tang? Arizona's of course right after after the blue
Speaker 2: blood sits justin just because, just the reminder, just a reminder.
Speaker 2: You don't have to keep reminding, well, you forget stuff.
Speaker 4: I just want to bet you completely.
Speaker 2: This is your daily reminder that Arizona's not blue blood.
Speaker 2: They gotta win one. They gotta win one. I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk give you five to one. I've got
Speaker 2: to talk to you for two more minutes and then
Speaker 2: I've done with you. Radio Bill Grunk Maybe he does,
Speaker 2: Maybe does, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And some of them may do it, and they anonymously
Speaker 4: they don't want other people coming.
Speaker 2: To correct correct. There's a lot like Jim Pure could
Speaker 2: did it, and I'm sure Damon helped in a way.
Speaker 2: I think he did it because he was under the
Speaker 2: radar as well.
Speaker 4: So no, yeah, and then we don't mean we don't
Speaker 4: mean to.
Speaker 2: I don't try to spend other people's money too.
Speaker 4: Well, and we're also trying to to, you know, generalize
Speaker 4: about athlete the athlete population.
Speaker 2: Sure, no, no, no, but it's it's it's it's it's historical,
Speaker 2: not just here, it's everywhere. They forget where they came from.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, I don't know. Do you give to
Speaker 2: your school other than your.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Because I don't have it.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's that. If I had it, I would I
Speaker 2: don't either. I don't either, and I don't even.
Speaker 4: Tell now we we cantually we make donations like the
Speaker 4: Journalists Department and stuff like that. Yeah, we do that,
Speaker 4: not tons of money, something just to say we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all that little helps. It's just the world
Speaker 2: we live in today. And like I agree with Kendre,
Speaker 2: he got out at the right time, he did, he did,
Speaker 2: but he's still helping. I'm surprised. Uh, well, you know,
Speaker 2: you don't get The landscape is different.
Speaker 4: Right for all these guys, So much of it, so
Speaker 4: much of being a coach is not about coaching anymore.
Speaker 4: And they hate that.
Speaker 2: No, so does Mike Stoops. Yeah or not the Mark Stoops.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Yeah, they hate that. Yeah, they just want
Speaker 4: to coach. And they and and and they They've lost
Speaker 4: a lot of the ability to just coach doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm still and I said this to you before. How
Speaker 2: do you coach a guy who's making half a mill,
Speaker 2: who doesn't doesn't need to be coached, at least in
Speaker 2: their mind. Yeah, you know, when your kids turned fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 2: you can't tell me what to do. I know everything.
Speaker 2: Not that that affected you or me, but you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm generalizing that was a parent, but
Speaker 2: but is it true?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Pretty much?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, good y'all, see Monday.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll be back Monday. Steve will be here
Speaker 4: the next couple of days, so be sure to come
Speaker 4: back and we'll be you know, kicking it around some more,
Speaker 4: getting close to football.
Speaker 2: See thanks. Three parts