Speaker 1: All right, Welcome in everybody. It is Wednesday. It is
time for more full court press. We are are back
to right around even on the parlay of the day again,
which means it's time to hit one. Last time. We
got ourselves in this situation, we had a winner. So
that's what I think the boys are gonna do today.
Welcome in my co host, bron Power Rob Vino. I'm
gonna get Robin here. First Big Ten Basketball back in
action tonight out at the Believe. It's the Pinnacle Bank Center,
the Vault, I think they call it.
Speaker 2: They have some sort of cool nickname out there for
that building.
Speaker 1: They also have a nice home court edge there, which
it looks like the market thinks is relevant because Wisconsin
open a favorite and now they're an underdog. So Wisconsin
Nebraska a lot of red on the court tonight.
Speaker 2: How are you seeing this one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's the thing, right, guys, is to
boil it down to its simplest form. You almost come
up with home floor being the real edge here. Both
teams shooting the basketball well. Nebraska hasn't played a road
game yet, so very used to or at least a
true road game yet, so very used to being here
on their own floor. Wisconsin off of a pair of
home victories that looked pretty good.
Speaker 4: Three of the last four have looked pretty good.
Speaker 3: The two top teams they played b YU and TCU
they couldn't be but you know these other Providence, Northwestern Marquette,
those are pretty good wins for Wisconsin real quick. Here.
For the Nebraska side, Fred Hoiberg mentioned as a side
note that they do have Illinois coming up on the
road in their first true road game in a couple
of days. I don't know that that comes into play
here other than Nebraska will probably play even harder to
get this win at home. When you're into Big Ten,
you're better win your home games because the road is
a difficult place for Wisconsin. Greg Gard says, you know,
there's still a lot of things his team can do better.
But what interest did me as a totals guy was
he said, it's the pace we play that's our constant
and what keeps us going. We have a lot of weapons,
and they do. Both sides have a lot of weapons here, guys,
I call it the question the Nebraska defense. Two teams
all season shot forty percent or better against this team.
Everybody else under forty percent. Wisconsin has only shot less
than forty one time this season, so you get a
little bit of contrast there. There's a clash when you
go through Nebraska's games. It's not necessarily a who's who
of teams that they kept under forty percent because the
two better ones that they played did shoot above forty
Does Wisconsin come in like they say that backcourt is
dynamite right now? Blackwell's playing out of his mind. They
both match up well with the bigs. I could go
back and forth with point and counterpoint in this game.
I don't know that there's a huge edge on the boards.
I don't know that there's a huge edge ball handling.
I think Nebraska might slightly be the better defensive team, guys.
Fred Hoiberg is sort of instilled a little bit of
defensive to his team. Guards team hasn't played that way yet.
But sometimes good offense is better than unproven defense, and
in my mind, Nebraska right now is unproven. I agreed
with the move here on the total which went under,
you know, one sixty down to one fifteen. Generally under
doesn't come out of my mouth, but it is the
first conference game. I know they both played really well offensively,
but I think you might see a little bit of
extra attention paid to the defensive end, especially after reading
Great Guard's quotes.
Speaker 4: So for me, if I had to, it would be Under.
I have not played this game.
Speaker 3: I just don't know exactly what to make of Nebraska yet.
Their statistics look great, but again, it's not built on
the firmest of foundations, so I think I'd probably just
take a little look to a de under and let
the side go.
Speaker 5: I mean, here's just need to know about Nebraska correct
the top twenty five. Obviously, with the nine to zero start,
I don't think this is a top twenty five team
in America.
Speaker 6: If they don't.
Speaker 5: I concur with Rob. I agree with the line move.
I made him a one point favorite. That's where they
are now. I think if they don't lose here, I
think they're losing over the weekend to Illinois. What this
game is gonna probably come down to its first true
road game for Wisconsin. I think what it comes down
to is can Nebraska not foule Wisconsin's excellent from the
free throw line, but Nebraska is very good at not
putting you there on the line. I think that ultimately,
and it's a high variant statistic obviously, but I think
that is ultimately gonna probably determine the outcome of this game.
Can Nebraska defend without fouling, because if they can, then
they're in good shape. Obviously, If they can't, Wisconsin's gonna
make them pay because they're shooting it. I believe around
an eighty percent clip from the charity the Badgers one
of the best in the country.
Speaker 6: So that is sort of where I'm at with this guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I actually was kind of looking maybe a little bit
at an over, but it wasn't the strongest lean in
the world. This was a kind of an easy pass
for me now that I'm right on market with the spread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just pulling up the box score from
when they most recently played, I believe, unless they had
another meeting last year, because you know, not everyone plays
twice now in these big, big conferences. But Wisconsin blew
them out by like thirty. But rink mask didn't play
in that game.
Speaker 2: For Nebraska, he's obviously back and makes them a lot better.
Speaker 1: Nebraska, without a doubt better at home. You know, Wisconsin
has only I think has only played I don't think
they've actually played a true road game.
Speaker 2: Is someone did someone just say that, Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They played They played by U in Salt Lake City,
which is I guess.
Speaker 5: It's essentially I mean, it's pretty close to a true
road game.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the TCU game was also on a neutral.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't shoot it well in either of those,
so it's like, you know, definitely going to be a
hostile environment. I think, I really do think if you're
betting on Nebraska at this point, you're just betting on
them riding the crowd to like a crazy result.
Speaker 2: Because I don't think I just don't.
Speaker 1: Think they there's any way that Nebraska matches up, like
if you were to put these two teams on a neutral, like,
Wisconsin's just the clear better team in my opinion. And
it goes kind of to what Brian Power is saying
a little bit about, you know, Nebraska sneaks into the
top twenty five, how legitimate is that?
Speaker 2: How long are they going to be there? So on
and so forth. I was, I think it's like fair
either way.
Speaker 1: I know this was Wisconsin minus two and a half
flips to a slight favorite. I guess like it within
a possession either way, I'm not going to really argue
with that. If you've got Nebraska a slight favorite, fine,
If you make Wisconsin's like favorite, fine, it's a big
them game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rob's probably onto something with
the under. I don't know if Wisconsin just goes in
and runs perfect offense on the road here, and if
they don't, I think there's a good chance it's an
awfully big number one fifty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: So I think I'll roll with Rob on the under
for this one.
Speaker 5: Well, and again, you talk about a statistic that's quite
variable three point shooting in this game, these are two
teams that jack up a lot of them quite frankly.
Point you're taking a look at Nebraska, They're fifty two
percent of their shots almost are coming from behind the arc.
That's tenth highest right in the country. Wisconsin is not
far behind, just over fifty one percent. Wisconsin's hit eleven
or more threes six times. Nebraska they hit ten or
more six times. So I think, guys, you know, if
I could tell you what's going to happen in these
two departments right now, I would tell you to bet
your life savings on this game, But I don't know
it's going to come down to can Nebraska defend without
fouling and who's hitting the threes?
Speaker 6: That's what it boils down to.
Speaker 5: I guess at eleven o'clock Eastern will know the answer
to that question right now, Go ahead.
Speaker 3: About the free throw shooting, Brian Is. Games in this
price range two points two and a half points generally
tell you that there's going to be somebody fouling at
the end of the game. It's a close game, somebody's behind,
and you get these files that don't you know, the
overall statistics don't sort out what's a team that legitimately
fouls or what's a team that's fouling to scramble to
get back in the game.
Speaker 4: So it's real hard to.
Speaker 3: Tell unless you're seeing them on a nightly basis, if
it's a team that just can't play man defense or whatever.
Last thing I'll say here is Nebraska may have a
slight hitch here, guys, because mass who the reason Adams
said it. It just triggered it in my mics. I
saw it this morning, shooting threes at an unreal rate
for a six to ten guy. And when you have
a stretch like that that can pull people away from
the rim, that's a big bonus. We'll see if that
comes into play here. But home floor, like I said,
we just spent I don't know, eight nine minutes here
on a game where I just come back to home floor.
It's probably the only real decider in this game. We'll
see if Nebraska can hang on and win again. But
that backcourt for Wisconsin offensively is really good.
Speaker 5: I think the home court edge is potentially significant. Ever,
you're talking about a team that just cracked the top
twenty five, I think there are is it. Does Nebraska
own the nation's longest win streak right now?
Speaker 6: I believe this is a big.
Speaker 5: And again though, I mean, the crowd can't win you
a game, you get players got to do it themselves.
My view is Nebraska is not long for having a
zero in the lost column. I would say, of all,
you know, we don't have left. That number has been dwindling.
We've been talking about it now for a week. It's
been dwinning precipitously over the last seven days or so.
I think Miami of Ohio, who's an action elsewhere tonight,
is by far the weakest undefeated team left, but then
like Nebraska and Oklahoma State used look at ken pob,
I don't think this is even up for debate. Nebraska
Oklahoma State are a clear level or two below the
other five remaining undeated teams.
Speaker 6: All of them are legit top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be a good one.
Speaker 1: Not sure I'll have action, but certainly going to be
one to watch tonight. Joey Cheese in the chat, he says,
just here to remind the boys that college hoops runs
through stores Connecticut.
Speaker 2: He's not wrong, He's not wrong.
Speaker 1: It's probably I think we saw the National champs play
last night. I don't know if it was Michigan or Yukon,
but they certainly look a cut above go ahead BP.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and by the.
Speaker 5: Way, I don't know if this person's watching right now.
My guess is they're probably not, because if you're a
regular watcher of the show, you would know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like to I like to kick around a lot.
It's how I, you know, stay sane in this industry.
So last night, when Michigan just went up big on
Villain in the first half, as I am known to do,
I went on Twitter dot com.
Speaker 6: I believe it's now known as.
Speaker 5: X and said the Michigan Wolverines have won the twenty
twenty six men's National Championship.
Speaker 6: Just thought it was a fun thing to say. And
someone's like, how could you say that?
Speaker 5: What a weird thing to tweet into separate Man, It's.
Speaker 6: Just what I do.
Speaker 5: Take a chill pill, brother. I don't know if Michigan's
gonna win it all. I know Joey Cheese took offense
to it.
Speaker 6: But he was for the joke.
Speaker 2: So you could have twet.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you could pick worse teams to tweet
that about than Michigan, who clearly looks like they.
Speaker 2: Will be in the mix, as does Yukon.
Speaker 3: Both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both tremendous. They certainly look like one two to
me right now. I don't care what the rankings say.
Those those look like the two best teams. And if
BYU plays like they did in the second half, they
would probably be in the mix as well.
Speaker 6: That was hell of a game. That was a hell
of a second half man, last night, and.
Speaker 3: You know a good I think it was a good
look for Yu contest Floor to come out second half
storming the way they did and take the lead away
time out and then Danny Hurley's team gets it back together.
Guys in Michigan, I know after Thanksgiving I said it,
they looked like the best team. But we read that
Dusty may quote yesterday here and it just if we
make shots, it's just a matter of how much we're
gonna win by That was my only there's one in
two in college who blast yesterday. The winner was the
Michigan team total over and unlike you, Brian, when I
see stuff like that going on in the Michigan game,
I immediately run to open up more apps and see
if I can get in on more Michigan team total.
Although they were scoring so fast that it just the
end game got way too high and you have to
back off a little bit. But that team scores at
will and Yukon went through nine. I'll say it again,
that team because every single position one through five has
depth and quality depth. Didny only it doesn't have to
be afraid to put anybody in the game at this point.
Just a really good question. And is Joey Cheese a
Connecticut native? I mean, it's nice to find another Connecticut native.
I'm bored here.
Speaker 2: I told him last night. It's not He's not a Homer.
It's not his fault. He was born in the basketball
capital of the world.
Speaker 3: He just you know, it is what it is, Britain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So one three point variance game to another. Let's
let's go to Garth. Let's talk about Western Kentucky and Marshall.
I have I have opinions on both the side and
total here. I'm gonna throw them out quick and let
you guys either talk me onto or off of one.
Because Brian Power and I got to see this Marshall
team a couple of weeks ago. I told him then
I was high on Marshall. I'm still I still really
like this team. But they've gone cold the last couple
of games. They came out of the gate hitting everything
this year, shooting the three extremely well. Uh, last couple
of games have not shot it as well. Although I
will point out they had that Wilmington sort of want.
I mean, they were very very close to a what
I would call a signature win for them at Wilmington,
and Wilmington stole it like right at the end of
the game. But if you look at the last three games,
they just have not shot the ball well at all,
and they take a ton of threes. Now they're back
on their home court against a Western Kentucky team that's
really impressed me. They you know, they played in I
believe the Atlantis Tournament over Thanksgiving weekend, and I would
argue that they were the most impressive team in that
tournament in terms of took South Florida to ot. I
believe they knocked off Wichita State, and I want to
say they covered against Vandy. I'm going off memory here,
but I think they had a very good tournament against
the spread if I remember correctly, and again that South
Florida game, they pretty much had. One reason I bring
that up is they can like they can score as well,
and the only thing stopping them from scoring at will
in this game is going to be Matthew Van Coleman.
I still have the image of Brian Power standing next
to him and looking up and being like, who is
this seven foot four great rim defender? But he's not
He's not like jacked like Brian Power is though, you
know what I mean, He's not super big. He's he's
gonna guard the rim, but can he keep these athletes
out of the paint that Western Kentucky has? So I
kind of think this one goes over. If Marshall starts
hitting threes, I think there's gonna be a lot of
points in this game.
Speaker 2: VP. Do you want to chime in? That's your boy,
Matthew Van Coleman, You.
Speaker 5: Two well, I mean Marshall's Yeah, Marshall's a desperate team
obviously here playing at home off three consecutive losses, laying
a short number, that's something I'm interested in.
Speaker 6: Right there.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Western Kentucky's run at the pay window, so
to speak.
Speaker 6: They did.
Speaker 5: They'd covered five straight games before failing to cover on
Saturday as a twelve point favorite, just stuck by Evansville
by one. So yeah, I mean to me, the spot
screams the thundering herd. This was not a game that
was going to originally be on my card. I'll be
honest with you.
Speaker 6: I'll throw it to Rob and then on the cut.
Speaker 5: Then after he's done, I'll let you know where I
kind of made this spread here for this game, because man,
that is a that is a spot that I kind
of traditionally like to play here on Marshall.
Speaker 3: Well, guys, let's say, first of all, Adam, I'm never
going to talk you off of a game like this,
a matchup like this going over, I won't think you
won't hear that from me. It shapes up as an
over contest. But so impressive about Western Kentucky, and I
think when you watch them, you don't get the full
idea of it until you look at overall statistics and
see that they're not that strong of a shooting team
in either regard, yet they score like crazy off of
their pace. They don't hold the basketball along.
Speaker 4: I always talk about average time of possession.
Speaker 3: Both of these teams are quick, quick, quick, and the
Western Kentucky trio of teams in a row. There the
Vanderbilt South Florida, which toads Steak gad first of all.
To play Vanderbilt to eighty three seventy eight after what
we've seen a Vanderbilt so far this year is ultra impressive.
South Florida also is a team that wants to get
up and down that they hung right with ninety seven
ninety one. So to me, there's a little bit of
a little bit of extra push towards Western Kentucky just
based off of schedule and how they played tougher teams.
Speaker 4: Marshall hasn't really played as tough as schedule.
Speaker 3: However, they do shoot the ball better, it's gonna be
a fast paced game. I went back at him just
as you were talking, just to see what their three
point shooting was last game. It was miserable six of
twenty four, but from two they were awesome. So if
any three's fall, you're gonna get even more points than
what they scored last game. To me, this seems a
little bit low, guys. It looks like eighty five aside
isn't hard to come by here. Eighty five aside push
you at one seventy and we're looking at one sixty
two or sixty three. I think I saw so I
would be on over rather than try to pick a
side in this game, but I'd keep my eye on
Western Kentucky remained to rub the season here, because if
they continue the rate they're going and sort of run
rush shot through Conference USA, they're gonna be one of
those tournament teams at the end where you know when
when the selection Sunday comes up and everybody, oh, Western Kentucky,
like they've been watching the most season long, they're gonna
gravitate to this team.
Speaker 4: And I think, right now, pretty good time to gravitate
towards them.
Speaker 3: As far as either team total or full game total,
I would look wuku, so I.
Speaker 6: Just ran the number.
Speaker 5: I have it as a pick up actually this game
so But but you know Marshall, I think it's because
the spot. You know, that's why you see him as
a slight favorite here, you know by you in the
chat he brought up very very astute points. I thought
Number one, Marshall been very good in Huntington last few years.
Number two, these teams used to be conference rivals. You know,
you look at the head to head history, there's there's
quite a bit of it because they used to be
conference riveles. Adding not like Marshall needs any motivation playing
at home being off three straight losses. I doubt anyone
on the roster remembers or cares about this. But they
have lost eight straight times to Western Kentucky. And you know,
me trick that makes me only want to take the
Marshall's side even more so, Marshall is a contender. If
you don't do a trick, they may be my leg
for the parlay here. Certainly, I think the chat would
enjoy that more than me telling them to take Fairley
Dickinson again tonight, which is also a contender for me,
you know.
Speaker 3: Plus real quick by that conference USA history is under
d'ant tony for Marshall again and that that that's a
huge because the style was the same. That D'Antoni might
have played faster, I'm not quite.
Speaker 2: Sure, and maybe a little bits he definitely did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little bit of difference there.
Speaker 1: So something I've noticed Marshall doing a lot more this year,
and it's it's been somewhat to accommodate that the seven
to four Van Coleman is they play a lot more
zone because he just he plays so much better in
his zone. Uh, it's what Elon did last year with
him to and that's what that's Elon ended up being
much better last year than they were in any year
prior because he if he if he can play a zone,
he doesn't have to really leave the paint and he
doesn't have to move around as much. So that that's
gonna a couple things are gonna happen here, like they're
gonna try to play zone, but Western Kentucky is gonna
make a point to get this thing down the floor
because they do not want Marshall to set that zone up. Okay,
And the other thing that's gonna happen is, like you
were saying, Rob, they don't shoot the three particularly well.
Speaker 2: That they're also.
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky's not a team that's just gonna jack up
threes like they're going to try to draw contact. They
want to get in the lane like they have like
athletes that are probably bigger and stronger than Marshall's players.
So it's like a lot of things can go sideways here,
which is kind of what's kept me off this one
so far. Van Coman gets into foul trouble changes that
the game completely. Western Kentucky didn't play great last time out.
They had I feel like they already had their lull.
They barely beat Evansville as like a twelve and a
half point favorite, so that was in my opinion, they're
sort of like scare if you will, off of the
big three big performance they had in Atlantis.
Speaker 2: I think this is the game of the night.
Speaker 1: I don't really like I lean Marshall because of the spot,
but for me, like it would be the over I
think there's I think you're gonna see him ripping up
and down the floor Marshall's gonna just jack up threes
and they're.
Speaker 2: So due to go in for them.
Speaker 6: One more quick point.
Speaker 5: One of the sharper places around one or more well
known Sharper places has already moved to two in this game,
so Marshall is taking money.
Speaker 3: Yes, Adam, real quick, I'm just gonna reiterate something you said.
You might have saw my hand go up in the
air when you said it, but I should have said it.
I don't know, Like it's so many things running through
this head of mine, I forget. But when you have
a seven to four playing an extreme tempo team, that's
exactly what you do. You don't allow them to set
that zone up. You take the ball, you push you,
but get that seven to four on the bench because
he's winded now. He plays for a team that plays
with pace, so you would think conditioning might not be
that big of a problem for him. But when you
get out on the floor against these teams again that
play extreme, extreme tempo, it's tough for the seven four
to keep up, which leads to points for the Western
Kentucky side in this case, or at least opportunity for
points without being defended by a seven to fourth and
on the other end, I mean the second chance opportunities
for a seven to four Marshall comes down also add
to the total here.
Speaker 4: So when I see stuff like that as a totals player,
I generally.
Speaker 3: Lean toward over And it's just another point to why
you should probably be looking at the overhead.
Speaker 4: I would be surprised if this thing goes up during
the day.
Speaker 2: B PRE, you gotta do it? Is the question t
you want to tb TV. Okay, let's move on. Let's
move on.
Speaker 1: We got another donation, very much appreciated. This is mad Max,
and Mad Max wants to go back to the Big
Ten more conference play. He says, Minnesota is coming off
of an upset win at home, and Purdue is coming
off of a really bad loss to Iowa State. Is
this a good bounce back spot for Purdue? Brian Power,
I'm gonna go to you to start this one off.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was a bad loss for Purdue.
Speaker 1: It was an ugly loss the way it happened, But
certainly losing the Iowa State is not a bad loss.
It was just shocking the way it happened at home
and by the margin it did.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's what you know, Max
was kind of referred to. I mean, yeah, losing. There's
no shame in losing. Iowa State one of the absolute
four best teams in the country right now. It's just that,
you know, getting run out of your own gym. I
think that was like their worst loss at Mackie in forever,
if memories I don't have. You know, I had seen
some tweet, you know, while it was going on, that
this was like the worst loss they'd suffered in Mackie
in some time. Yeah, on paper, it sets up as
a bounce back spot for Purdue, right, I mean, especially
you know, there's two sides of the coin here. Not
only is Purdue off the off the blowout loss, but
Minnesota off a win. The only thing I mean obviously
the points spreads, the great equalizer.
Speaker 6: Number one. Was talking to somebody about this game actually last.
Speaker 5: Night when the lines came out, and we were joking
at maybe it's just a spot where you take Purdue
team total over. My concern there is this the pace
of this game, Rob Veno figures to be very, very slow.
So I don't know how much I want to be
investing in overs because I just I don't know if
the possessions are going to be there. My gut tells
me perdue maybe comes out for blood, but maybe they don't.
Speaker 6: It's the holiday season.
Speaker 5: Maybe you know, they're back home and they're thinking about
their girlfriends, thinking about buying Christmas gifts, and they're not
all fault, you know. It's it's it's it's a logical
thing for us to come up here on full core
press and say it right all they're gonna come out motivated.
They've got to be pissed off. I don't know if
I haven't spoken to them, to be honest with you,
so I wouldn't play Minnesota.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3: In this game, yeah, his thing. You know what, guys,
let's just ring the belt because I don't have the
reservations that Brian has. This game sets up right in
my wheelhouse for a Purdue team total over, I think.
Let me just see, I thought I saw eighty and
a half. Guys, I'm looking now and looks like eighty
one and a half over minus twelve cents consensus here.
But for all the reasons you're laying out here. The
tempo of the game again I'll just say in my
mind or the way I operate over here in this
home office, is that if you're an efficient offensive team,
to me, your pace doesn't matter if you're coming down
and scoring points per possession, which when you look at Minnesota,
now this is aside worry about. Right.
Speaker 4: Can Minnesota slowed the game down enough on produce home
floor in Mackie?
Speaker 3: Probably not. Is Minnesota good enough defensively to hold Purdue
under eighty one and a half if produce pod and
making shots tonight? Probably not. But I'll just give some examples.
They gave up eighty six to Santa Clara, not an
especially fast team. They gave up seventy seven to San Francisco,
not an especially fast team. They gave up baby three
to Missouri. Middle of the road as far as pace
is concerned so far this season average Temple, So that
doesn't really bother me. It produced team full of sharpshooters
and they're rebounding whatever. I think Nico medbid from what
I've seen, and it was a big win against Indiana.
We saw Indiana come out pissed off last night and
absolutely destroyed Penn State. But I still think Nico Medved's
team has issues, while hold It down Low hasn't been
available for a while. And to the point of the
law by Perdue. The other day, Tayman Lipsey came back
for that game. He hadn't played three games prior, and
that's the difference in the Iowa State team when Lipsey's
on the Floyd. So for me, guys, it could be
a simpleton way of handicapping, but simpleton ways get paid
to it. A lot of times when I see this
type of situation set up, I want to be on
the home team, that's the better team, that's a really
really terrific offensive team to get maybe to eighty three
eighty four points here. So I'm going to use that
as my leg of the teaser. By the way, guys,
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if it goes down in flames, it's not any reward.
Speaker 4: But for watching the show, you get a client play
for free.
Speaker 3: Real quick.
Speaker 5: I found the stat that I was thinking, Oh, Trigg,
you're muted. I'll use the opportunity to win.
Speaker 2: What's what's the number? What's the number on that again?
Speaker 4: One and a half with normal juice?
Speaker 3: It's twelve cents? Is a consensus number?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the stat I was that was I was thinking
of that. I knew I had read and couldn't remember.
Guys as this Purdue. The loss to Iowa State the
largest home loss by an AP number one team in
the AP Pole era at least actually a tied the
record margins set by Yukon back in ninety five against Novas.
So it certainly was I mean again, losing to Iowa State, Drake,
Just to take it back to the beginning, there's no
shame in losing with the Cyclones. But you lose by
the number one team in the country. You're not supposed
to lose by twenty three points at home anybody. So
maybe maybe they will come up pretty pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't have a ton to add on this one.
I do see, you know, Bayou brings up in the chat.
Speaker 1: It's a good point, like Minnesota is still potentially shorthanded here,
which which doesn't help them. I thought the Iowa State
per New game was just I was State played awesome.
I mean, I just have to tip your cap there.
They played an incredible game, like they made every shot.
So I don't even think that it's a I'm sure
Purdue is not thrilled that they got run off their
own court, but like, I don't think it's a I
didn't lower my rating on Purdue because they got slammed
by like what probably will be a top five team
for most of the year.
Speaker 2: Remember Lipsey was out for a little while before that game.
As Rob said, he came back.
Speaker 1: I mean that's just I was State figured out when
he was out that they've got another like young player
that's like almost just as good. It's it's crazy how
how talented that team is this year. So yeah, I
could see Perdue being a little pissed off, and I
made it like twenty two. So the opener of nineteen
was probably a good bet and maybe still some value.
Speaker 2: There on producer.
Speaker 5: And remember Minnesota had not been a good team to
bet on prior to the upset of India. Of India,
they I believe failed to cover six or seven in
a row. Wasn't a team he wanted to invest in.
Speaker 3: Real guys. I didn't go to the full quotes on
this game, but Matt Painter actually pushed me over the
edge here. He was very, very upset with the energy
level of the team, losing a ton of fifty to
fifty balls, and he basically says, I'll give you one
last quote. You're constance in basketball are running, rebounding, and defending.
Those are the constants.
Speaker 4: I didn't say a word about our offense after the game.
Speaker 3: You win. We win games playing through our defense, the
creation of offense. So Matt Painter obviously criticizing energy of
the team, I could see Mackie being a high energy
arena tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, since I know someone's gonna ask about it,
I'm just gonna go to this game now and it
will be my leg of of Parlay as well. And
if you watch this on demand, just fireing a two
team or I am playing the day game. It's a
noon tip Norfolk State Baylor. I took twenty seven and
a half with Norfolk State in this spot. I played
this game last year. Cash my ticket in this same game,
they actually played an early tip last year in Waco.
Speaker 2: This must be a thing they've agreed upon, a multi
year thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's a kid's day of sorts with the
early tips, so probably a bunch of people in the
crowd waiting for sixty seven points to be scored.
Speaker 2: I would imagine that's what the theme of the kids
kids' days have been, But that's what they do.
Speaker 1: This was a good matchup for North for Norfolk State
last year for long period of that game, they led
for fifteen minutes. They really like that score. Last year,
the twenty five point final is quite deceiving. Baylor landed
a pretty big knockout punch to get to twenty five
and still didn't cover. And I kind of like, so
a couple things. One with Norfolk State, you always know
what you're gonna get, you know. Robert Jones has been
there forever. It's the same team every year. They're always
a veteran team. He's able to sort of like go
pluck guys from other pro from from usually from bad programs.
And I think the selling point is, hey, come play
at Norfolk State for a year or two. You'll probably
go to the NCAA tournament at some point, right, because
like they're always going to be one or two in
the me act.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the same thing this year. So he's
got veteran team, He's got guys that can score.
Speaker 1: Baylor's horrific defensively, like when you're talking twenty seven points
if you can run a little bit of offense and
have some success on offense, which Norfolk State should have
here and they had last year when they played a
Baylor team that was probably better defensively than this one
is shown so far this year, you're probably gonna have
a pretty good chance to cover twenty seven and a half.
And also if you play the full forty minutes like
this Norfolk State team tends to do that as a
big dog. They've already had some success as a pretty
big underdog this year. Most recently they had James Madison
beat I mean that came down to like the final possession.
Speaker 2: That was a good result for them.
Speaker 1: They I think last year they also so not only
did they cover at Baylor, I believe they covered against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: So they have had success in this big underdog role.
Speaker 1: Earlier this year against Towson they covered the thirteen and
a half. Recently they went out to Laramie covered fifteen
and a half against Wyoming, they really don't give up.
Like it's a veteran team. They play the whole game,
and they're gonna zone their teams. They're just gonna sit
in the zone type defense, which has been pretty good
for them. So Baylor's gonna have to shoot it well,
which they can. But again, like I just don't trust
Baylor enough to play forty minutes of basketball that that
they would need to play to win a game by
twenty eight points.
Speaker 2: It's a huge ask.
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, I took twenty seven and
a half Norfolk State three percent client play. So if
you want to run and hide in the you know,
if you want no part of that, I understand because
I have not had a great start to the season.
But they're gonna shots are gonna start following at some
point for your boy, and I think they have to do.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: Yeah, last night, I was gonna say, if anyone caught
just you know, step back back. Yehad night the Buffalo
umbc Well, the most stunning things I've ever witnessed, not
just on a basketball court, but quite frankly in forty
five years on planet Earth. What transpired over the last
minute of that game. I don't know if I can
name five, name five more shocking things than the last
sixty seconds of that basketball game.
Speaker 6: People can google that. We don't need to recap the
bloody and gory details of it. If they want so.
Speaker 5: I'll say, well, they want you to shoot. They force
and shooting a lot of threes. They'll give up eye volume.
But they're number six in the country defending opponents are
not hitting high mark against them. Obviously, you're talking about
a game with a large point spread. Baylor would need
to hit threes to cover this number. In Norfolk State's defense,
how they've defended the arc thus far in the season,
says that Baylor will probably not be able to hit
enough to cover this large number.
Speaker 3: It's quite the lullones schedule for Baylor, isn't it? A Norfolk? Alcorn,
Southern U for the Memphis game, the Sacramento State? How
do you get up for all of those games? To
Adam's point about taking twenty seven and a half, and
there's an old adage, you know, if you can't play defense,
if a kid trusted to get stops, how can we
trust you to lay double digits?
Speaker 4: And twenty seven and a half is far more than
just your normal double digits.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean again, you've got.
Speaker 1: I believe, nine days off after this game for Baylor,
and it's like, this is, to me, is not the
same as like Texas the other night where it's like
Sean Miller was just like ripping them and like you know,
Rob ended up being right about that whole Texas spot
and whatnot.
Speaker 2: I kind of think.
Speaker 1: Baylor is going to go out and get the job done,
like you know, just go probably just like do enough
to win this game, maybe win this game by fifteen
twenty points. Then they get ten days off. They kind
of need it in my opinion, Like this looks like
a team you know that they really didn't look great
in the second half of that Memphis game. I feel
like they need to break. They're probably gonna go out
do what they gotta do to win this game, and
then you know, reset and they come back in nine
days for kind of another one of these like cupcake
by game type things. So yeah, I just don't think
you're gonna get a complete enough points, a complete, complete
enough guy, complete enough performance to win a game by
twenty eight points. So three percent play for me Norfolk
State plus twenty seven and a half and for my
parlay because it looks like it's moved a tiny bit. Oh,
you can still get a twenty seven and a half
at a couple of books. Looks like twenty seven a
lot of places. So we'll call it twenty seven for
the parlay.
Speaker 5: Should I just close out the parlay right now? I mean,
if you want to, if you want, I'm gonna it's
a game we talk I'm gonna go with I'm gonna
I'm gonna go back to what we talk about. I'm
gonna go with Marshall's put Marshall on the money line.
Though it's right, we are throwing this in a three
team parlay. After also Marshall on the money line against.
Speaker 2: Minus one twenty five or something like that.
Speaker 3: We are getting.
Speaker 6: Call it minus one thirty.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll recap that again at the
end of the show. Still plenty of time left, so
let's get back into the chat here. Let's see if
we can find a couple more games to talk about.
This is an interesting one. I'll go to Rob, but
I'll set this one up. Steve Duke says, does Fresno
State look good against Northridge tonight?
Speaker 2: So a couple things here. One I would want to know.
Speaker 1: So I like this northwardch team a lot, and I
actually think this is a pretty good matchup for them.
Speaker 2: But I Josh Ogaro didn't play.
Speaker 1: He was the guy last time when we had Jordan
Alexander on the show last Thursday. He's kind of our
big West. He's my big West guy, Like that's who
I ask for Big West stuff. And part of the
reason I really like Northridge this year was they got
they brought in a guy from Texas State, who you know,
that's another team I follow pretty closely that I really
liked in Josh, who I think has been Northridge's best
player I'm both ends of the floor so far this year.
Speaker 2: He did not play their last game, so that to
me is very concerning.
Speaker 1: They lost by fourteen to Calervine, and I would not
want to bet Northridge without him. So for me, that's
that's the only I will say, that's the only thing
keeping me off Northridge because if he was in and
I knew they were full strength, I would love them
in this spot against the Fresno State team that I
don't think is going to defend them particularly well. Like
this Northridge team can run some offense, they have a
they have a great offensive scheme, and they get to
the rim. It's it's I think they're a sleeper in
their conference this year. So the only thing holding me
off Cal Northridge in this spot is the is if
Gogar was playing or not. Rub that's you know, you're
you're up late with me watching these West Coast games.
Anything in Fresno Northridge for you, well.
Speaker 3: I think I would have to take what on this
show we call the ass end of the line at
this point. But the last time when Jordan was on,
that was my part of the parlay was the Cal
State Northridge team total in that game. They wracked up
to eighty seven points in that contest. And like you say,
and again we're Northridge is concerned, There's there's no shame
in losing to Irvine at any point. In fact, I
think Jordan happened to be extremely high on Irvine this
season overall and that night in particular too. But it's
got to be an overplay for me with Northridge. It's
the way I look at them, and when you try
to play overs in this type of territory which is
now climbed all the way to one sixty, one fifty
four all the way to one sixty six point move
in this game. But what you're looking for is you
try to fight the team. Identify a team such as
Northridge that's a really good offensive team with not a
lot of defense facing a team that can play a
lot of offense, and that you think they could score.
It's again, the matchups here kind of dictate what I
think is going to happen. Would have much preferred one
fifty four, obviously, And the first inclination guys, at least
from me was when I saw one fifty four to
one sixty, I thought maybe the health of cal State
Northridge was going to be whole tonight. But you see
the line move toward Fresno State, which indicates maybe not
just points back and forth. It's the way I see.
Speaker 4: I think you can look at Northridge that way for
the majority of the season.
Speaker 3: Fresno State years passed under Rodney Terry and subsequent years
beyond Rodney Terry more of a methodical style team, not
known for offense, more of a grinding type defensive team.
Not that way this year. So I think there's still
enough room here. Maybe this game winds finds its way
to the low one sixties, sixty two, sixty three. You're
still able to make a play here. I think on
the total going.
Speaker 1: Over, Rob, I'll tell you what if Ogaro is out,
I think that hurts northwardge more on the defensive end
than then, Like I would almost say that like would
be a positive to the over. Like I think he's
so I'll buy you talking about Larry Hughes Junior or
Larry Hughes.
Speaker 2: The second he goes by that of course.
Speaker 1: Uh, if you're our age, you remember Daddy was at
South Saint Louis an absolute baller.
Speaker 2: I think he was in He was in the NBA
for like a long time.
Speaker 3: Wait for the Calves.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 5: He was in the Calves big mid season acquisition the
first time Lebron was here.
Speaker 2: He didn't like that out that well, yeah, he was
a stud and his son is awesome. He's he's their scorer.
Speaker 1: So like, I'll kind of agree with Bay you, I
don't think Northridge is gonna have a hard time scoring
like this. This really sets up the way they get
up and down and get to the rim. They should
score it will here on Fresno, Algaro being out would.
Speaker 2: Would hurt them on the boards.
Speaker 1: I mean he's been a monster, like getting ten eleven
rebounds a game for them, and then of course he's
been very good on the defensive end. I may kind
of track this one throughout the day, but like I
would say, there's a point where I may play back,
like no matter what, like if this gets to like
Northridge plus two, because it opened Northridge minus two and
my guess this resident's taking some money because they think
o'garo might play.
Speaker 2: I think if I was going to get a bucket
here in Northridge, I might bet it either way.
Speaker 1: So I do pretty strong lean to Northridge, but not
something I bet yet. Sorry, VP, were you gonna add
something there?
Speaker 3: I actually have nothing on this game, believe Take a
quick second, Adam, and we give a lot of game
advice here, but just from a handicapping angle. I'm gonna
just go back to something what you just said and
add a little context to it. But I'll bring the
NBA into it. You know, there was a game that
I do have one thirty show with Ski Propt here
on Ways to Talk TV, and it was.
Speaker 4: A game with the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 3: We're missing lou Thort Isaiah Hartenstein, Alex Caruso, and people
will look at that as three star players for okay
see and immediately think that you're supposed to bet the
game under But to your point, Adam, when you've removed
defensive minded players from the game, it adds to the
other team's potential to score. And so to you saying
that Fresno might be even easier for them to score here,
absolutely it is. You got to take into context who
the players are, what their strengths are. I've bet enough
totals to know. So that's a good point taken where
Fresno is concerned, where they should have it a little
bit easier. Not that it's difficult to score on Northridge anyway,
but even a little bit easier if I facto guard
can't play. If he does, just adds to their offense.
So I think it's a win win situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look at some of north or just score.
I mean that North Dakota team does not run very
good offense. That was a ninety three to eighty five game,
Troy ninety four to eighty five against Northridge. They played
a you know, they dropped eighty seven on Bakersfield, who
like their whole mo is to like not let you
play fast, and you know they just still dropped eighty seven,
so it could be a yeah, I think you're probably
gonna get points here either way.
Speaker 2: All right, Titan CT, this is a good one. This
is what I want to talk about, he says.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on VCU in New Mexico, Well, my first thought,
Brian Power, was interesting spot here for VCU New Mexico,
midweek trip all the way out to Richmond, Virginia. Believe
this is their return game for last year. So I've
noticed some teams doing this, like teams that have a
hard time in like scheduling good opponents at home, are
almost like, hey, we'll play you this year, you play
us next year.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what's going on here. VCU went
out and played at the pit last year, and.
Speaker 1: Now that you got to return the favor, New Mexico's
got to return the favor and play at Seagulls Center,
which is, of course, as we know, not an easy
place to go win.
Speaker 2: A basketball game.
Speaker 1: Also not the best matchup for VCU or I'm sorry
for New Mexico here, do you want to lay it
with the Rams?
Speaker 6: Brian Power That was actually my initial ought.
Speaker 5: Another game to talked about somebody last night when the
Lions were opening. New Mexico surprised me last time out
against Santa Clara, putting up as many points as they did.
I think they finished close to one hundred, if memory SERI, yeah, ninety,
that's you know, that's three straight games now the Lobos
have finished north of ninety.
Speaker 6: Not one of those opponents was a non board team,
so that doesn't really mean a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, do I really want to lay
like I think odds makers have this one kind of
right trig, you know where it's at. I know people
don't want to hear that. They want to hear, Oh,
I'm off on this number and I'm seeing value. I'm
not a ton of value in this number. I do
think it is a tough matchup for New Mexico, but
I think it's priced adequately. I started looking at the
total back and forth. You look right now looking at
the odds screen. The overs taking money, continues to take money.
It's been bet up a few points. I'll let Rob
handle that because I really could not make I really
didn't have a strong conviction over or under either, So.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, I'll just I guess take a slightly different
approach here. My initial reaction when I saw ten points
was to take New Mexico, but the thing that stopped
me was, as Adam mentioned, Albuquerque into Richmond. It's a
weird trip for a team, but it's a return to
a payback for scheduling a home and home. That's fine.
Speaker 4: New Mexico obviously first year.
Speaker 3: Eric Olin trying to climb out from under Richard Patino's teams,
but they seem to be handling it pretty well right now. Brian,
you mentioned the amount of scoring that they're doing, not
against the best competition, but when you think of New
Mexico and VCU, you kind of think of the same
exact style, and VCU's doing the same thing here.
Speaker 4: Adjusting to Phil Martelli for the first time.
Speaker 3: The one thing you want to do, if you played
VCU or you played in Mexico, you don't want to
be a team that turns the ball over. Period. They're
gonna come at you. If you can't handle a basketball,
you're in big trouble. That's when those VCU ten twelve
nothing spurts happened when New Mexico's ten twelve nothing spurts happened.
Both of these teams fairly capable of taking the ball away,
but I think VC's ball handling has been a little looser.
Speaker 4: It could because they played a bit tougher schedule. I
know Mississippi State has not been very good this year.
But New Mexico did go in or did beat them,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought it's two teams kind of on the same
course as we speak, kind of in the same area
as we speak, as far as trying to ascend to
what they want to be, and ten points seem like
a lot of It's come down to nine and a
half again the trip. That's the difficult part for me.
Will New Mexico just go into this building and will
I'm not sure. I think They've got enough seasoned personnel
on that team to not do so. So we'll see.
But if it were me, I'd be on the underdogs
year plus nine and a half, not the VC. You
can't win it.
Speaker 4: But I just don't think New Mexico style feeds into.
Speaker 3: Virginia Commonwealth's way of scoring, which under Martelli is you
know what it was under shaka smart.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the VCU wait for the last twenty years, so.
Speaker 5: I would try the underdog here, something to monitor with VCU. Also,
Santa Clara jab forty four to threes against New Mexico.
That's all make one good. But that's a lot of attempts.
But that's a lot of attepts. Obviously, forty four even
by the modern standard. So let's see what VC again,
it's one of those things. But can't guarantee what's going
to happen right now at eleven in the morning. Well, no,
when you after game tips, but you know VC, can
VCU make New Mexico pay? What's their volume look like
from behind the arc? And are they hitting them? I
think ultimately that determines whether or not they cover the spread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I lean or my number sort of lean
to New Mexico timey bit. My my brain says, don't
do that on the road of BCU. It's a it's
a weird spots midweek VCU runs teams out of this building,
especially teams that are not really accustomed to playing there.
And then the last thing, I'm worried New Mexico is
a little bit overvalued from that last result because Santa
Clara like they had a couple of guys out or
banged up. I can't remember if they played or not,
but they were going into that game with like two
or three of their starters like nursing injuries, and they
just their game plan was let's just hoist up as
many threes as possible, and I don't I think two
of them went in, So it was like a total
It was just like a total route that I think
was more Santa Clara just being banged up and not
showing up than it was like New Mexico being this
great team. But it's it's an interesting that's probably one
of the more interesting games tonight.
Speaker 2: BP. What were you could add?
Speaker 5: So for sure I was gonna just quickly mention another game.
I know it's not in our chat, but it's a
game that I want to mention and I happened at all, right,
so I take I happen to be one of the
hosts and have a live microphone. Funny how that works.
Miami of Ohio versus unc Asheville is a game that
I looked at. Miami Ohio is still undefeated. I don't
think Miami Ohio was gonna stay undefeated a much longer trick.
I really want to bet unc Asheville this game, but
very curious line move, guys. As we scrolled down to
the extra board, Miami Ohio was up to five and
a half. I was talking to Trigg before we went live.
I was trying to figure out why that is why
we're betting the road team so heavily that I'm gonna
tell you something right now. Miami of Ohio, guys, covers
this spread to night in Nashville, then Miami Ohio's next
opponent on Saturday, Eastern Kentucky, will absolutely be.
Speaker 6: On my card Saturday. I will tell you that.
Speaker 5: I will absolutely because that's another road game for the
Red Hawks. So this is a game that I don't
know if I will be betting Miami versus unc Asheville,
but I will certainly be monitoring it. And if Miami
covers the number, then I will look to fade next
time out.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to add to that, but I
am gonna. I will answer Garth's question here. He says
Princeton running Merrimack out of the gym tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think Prince is running anyone out of the
gym these days, like under that is that is not
a very good Like if we're talking Princeton teams over
the last few years, like this is by far the
worst team they've had in like the last half decade
they had Dala Dell Dylan Dalen Davis has not played
the last few games for them. I don't know if
he's back here tonight or not. But I also don't
even think it would matter.
Speaker 2: Merrimack. I just bet Merrimack over the weekend. I won
with them.
Speaker 1: They played a Mac game and god, I can't it's
escaping me who they were up against. But uh, I
just I watched the whole game. I can't remember who
they're playing. Anyway, I bet Merrimack on Sunday and they
won easily. And the thing like Joe Galla is such
a good coach, he loses what was it, Bud Clark
was the guy that he lost last year, and it's
like everyone thought, Okay, Merrimack's got no shot. They lost
their best player, and Joe Gallo is just like, no problem.
I'm still gonna play like this ridiculous zone defense. You're
not gonna score on me and We'll just find someone
else to put the ball in the basket. So like Merrimack,
I think is kind of undervalued in that regard. They
are probably and they're as good of a coach team
as you're gonna find at the low major level, and
they play, they defend so hard, and I just like
Princeton just doesn't.
Speaker 2: Do it for me anymore.
Speaker 1: Like even last year with Lee and Pierce, like they
took a big step back and now they're like far
less talented than they were. Of course, Avian League is
that Florida Cayden Pierce took the year off. I think
the podcast actually he just wants to preserve He took
the year off to preserve of his eligibility so he
could go transfer to a different school next year. And
then of course Dylan Davis was kind of the best
of the bunch that was still there and he's been
banged up. So now I have zero interest in playing Princeton.
The only thing I could play there would be what
would be Merrimack. But the only concern I have with
Merrimack is sometimes they are a little bit in that
offensively so tough game. Lean Merrimack, I don't know if
anyone has anything they want to add.
Speaker 6: Just real quick.
Speaker 5: Rob the other day mentioned you know, we shouldn't just
look at the adjusted tempo rating at KEMPOM. We should
look at average possession length as well. You talked about
trig how Merrimack defense really well, you know, they play.
Speaker 6: Hard on defense. I believe there's only three or four.
Speaker 5: Teams in the entire country that are allowing a longer
average possess forcing opponents in a longer average possession length
than Merrimac. So and Priston plays slow too. You look
at their average possession length, it's it's it's on the
long side. I don't know, Rob, I look at this total,
it's getting better up. I think it might be heading
the wrong direction. Actually in this game, I would look
at it under. I think this is gonna be a
rock fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. We've talked about Merrimack
before and playing them under, you know, with Princeville for years.
And to your point, Brian, real quick, here about teams
that force other sides to take a long time to
get a shot off. Time of possession is dragged out,
Merrimack being the fourth, forcing opponents the fourth longest amount
of time during their position.
Speaker 4: A lot of these teams that can't rebound. This just
holds true for Princeton for years back to Pete Carrill.
They just when they're on offense, they won't send a
whole bunch to the glass.
Speaker 3: They're more concerned with getting back and getting into the
transition defense and setting up so that you can't get
any type of fast break points. I didn't look it
up this morning, but there's analytics spots where you can
look up fast break points against. And I would imagine
not that Princeton's a fast graded team, but I would
imagine teams like Merrimack and Princeton don't allow a heck
of a lot of quick transition points, which one thirty
six and a half. Let's say one more time. We've
talked about getting to one point forty sometimes being very
very difficult. It could be very very difficult here. I'm
going to just take a couple more seconds here to
point out what I think might be the worst matchup
for the night guys between two teams that everybody knows.
But this South Florida College and Charleston matchup is horrendous
for Chris Mack and Charleston. In my estimation.
Speaker 4: Brian Hodgson.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it enough. NATO's disciple up and down
to Flora as fast as we can, as many possessions
as we can wear the other team out. And Chris
Mack always been more of a methodical coach and trying
to change that Charleston type of characteristic. You know, for
a long time Charleston was a team that would do
the same thing up and down. But being the Belmont
guy that I am, I saw that game the other
day and Belmont ran Charleston out of it. Gym. If
you can shoot half a lick, you're gonna score on Charleston.
I go back to a game earlier this season where
Richie McKay's Liberty team put ninety on Charleston, and we
all know Liberty doesn't go up and down the Florid
but their effective shooting the basketball. They shoot it really,
really well. South Florida is kind of a combination of both.
And maybe that Utah State game that we talked about
the other day, guys where South Florida I thought Utah
State was the right side they were. It might have
been the day with Jordan Adam when he was on
I think it was my leg of the parlay. It
just didn't work out. South Florida looks really good. It's
a team that's developing. I don't know if I'd rather
played the team total over eighty eight and a half
or if I'd rather lay the number with South Florida.
But the number is getting out of control now because
people have taken this thing like you know, letting fishing
line go to a shark, just let it run.
Speaker 4: I think I'd probably prefer South Florida to get to
ninety in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think South Florida. I think Charleston and Chris
Mack are in trouble this year. Mister Dean looks like
he's done for the year. He was Charleston's best defender.
It would have been one of their better players this year.
He's been out since the Drake game. I believe he's
done for the year. Their other they've had, Jlyn Counter
missed the Evansville game. He was back played twenty minutes
against Belmont, but again Connor Hickman missed time with injury.
So they've been very banged up to this point in
the year.
Speaker 3: But Dean W.
Speaker 2: Dean is their best guy on the defensive end of
the floor.
Speaker 1: So not I mean, granted, like we talk about injuries
and it's like, you know, at some point they are
going to be what they are without him, like he's
been out for like four or five games. But I
just think they're still Like you see the Charleston name,
you see the Chris Mack name, Like the assumption is, oh,
they'll be pretty good, they'll be pretty competitive. I think
this team's gonna have big time issues, Like they're gonna
be a big fade for me once we get in
a conference play because I think they're gonna be mostly
overvalued against other c AA teams. Like you said, Rob,
the number, uh, I guess the secrets out that South
Florida is pretty good and Charleston's a little bit banged
up because this is fifteen.
Speaker 2: So I think if I'm you, I would I would
look more toward the team total. That's an awfully big number.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to throw a few more into
the at the gun here Trigg before we do the
before we recap the parlay. For those who are tuning
in late, I think Yale has no problems scoring on Albany.
This is another day game didn't make the chat. I
know people get interested in megas. I think Yale Rob
can maybe throw thumbs up or something Thegreas. I think
Yale team total over is the way to go in
that game Albany they followed, and Yale is very good
at getting the ball inside. So I think it's all
you tell a horrible matchup so late. I think Yale
is putting up a big number on Albany and then
we're fairly did one of two in the country that
has not covered a spread.
Speaker 3: The others.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're no who cares to look like that?
Speaker 1: Your your connections not great right now because you look
like an oil painting and we can't hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so am I back? Am I all right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you are all right?
Speaker 1: We have to wrap it up because it is it is.
We're up against it. But I do agree with you
that all but the team is atrocious.
Speaker 2: I have no problem, and yet Yale will run away
with the IVY this year. We are at the gun.
Speaker 1: I'm going to recap the parlay right here. We have
Purdue team total over eighty one and a half. That's
Rob's leg.
Speaker 2: I'm going Norfolk State plus twenty seven. That's an early tip.
Speaker 1: And then we've got Brian Power going Marshall money line
on the Parlay Purdue team total over eighty one and
a half, Norfolk State plus twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Marshall on the money line.
Speaker 1: I've got to calculate it probably gonna be like plus
five forty with that money line. I will do it
when we get off off camera because the it's a
it's eleven o'clock. We gotta go, So we will see
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