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Speaker 3: And on what are your reporting? I got a screen
Speaker 3: going on here. Something just kid, my dog, something killed
Speaker 3: your dog? My dog?
Speaker 1: We're flying through the or over the tree.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it did it?
Speaker 4: Okay, damn it.
Speaker 3: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 3: over the fence and they was dead. And once you
Speaker 3: hit the grill, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 3: saw was my dog coming over the fence.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 5: What are you reporting? We got some wond or something crawling.
Speaker 3: Around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 3: It was stand enough. I'm out here looking through the
Speaker 3: window now and I don't see anything.
Speaker 4: I don't want to goright fight.
Speaker 1: Hello, get the fundy out here?
Speaker 2: What quin on out There's thought of a bitch about
Speaker 2: text nine?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Easy ann ount there. Yeah, I'm walking right. Hey.
Speaker 1: Welcome our guest to the show, first and foremost somewhere
Speaker 1: in Georgia, Parts unknown, Johnny two Bears, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Good to see you again.
Speaker 1: It is good to see you. We just saw each
Speaker 1: other down in Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was definitely exciting to hear that
Speaker 3: you are now an official part of the Knower's Club.
Speaker 3: Pretty cool, man.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll eventually get into that at some point.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I have been bending this gentleman's ear
Speaker 1: about that down in Florida.
Speaker 5: Richard, Welcome to the show man. Hey, how's it going, Brian?
Speaker 1: I am hanging in like a hair in a biscuit.
Speaker 1: It is always good to see you, my friends.
Speaker 5: Let's get into this stuff.
Speaker 1: You guys have been on independent of one another, and
Speaker 1: we're going to get to explaining why you guys are
Speaker 1: here together. Later on in the show, I was asking
Speaker 1: you seeing what was new and what was going on,
Speaker 1: and Johnny was the first person to speak, what's been
Speaker 1: going on in your research area since we last had
Speaker 1: you on the show.
Speaker 3: I have to be honest with you. I don't remember
Speaker 3: exactly where we left off, and I was one the
Speaker 3: last time here about I think two weeks ago, I
Speaker 3: put up my channel's The Sasquatch and Counter Brigade. I
Speaker 3: started a docu series documenting the entire seven years of
Speaker 3: my research on my property, not including anything else anywhere else.
Speaker 3: It's called They Exist, Seven Years of Sasquatch in Georgia.
Speaker 3: I'm about to be done with Part two. Got just
Speaker 3: about every single important piece of evidence, audio, video, interactions
Speaker 3: for the whole nine yards, pretty much everything basically over
Speaker 3: the past two years. If I can go back the beginning,
Speaker 3: my entire situation was just sasquatch one oh one. It
Speaker 3: started out I didn't know anything about them at all.
Speaker 3: My neighbors started getting harassed at night over a period
Speaker 3: of probably almost a year, and then finally I'm the
Speaker 3: one running around in woods trying to figure this thing out,
Speaker 3: come to fight out. It's sasquad, So I get obsessed
Speaker 3: with it. About a year after that, I have a sighting.
Speaker 3: Then I just keep getting more and more eavy. But
Speaker 3: in twenty three it all changed. It went from ninety
Speaker 3: nine percent of the time I spent sitting on my
Speaker 3: front deck waiting for something to happen. Then it would happen.
Speaker 3: I would respond and hopefully get a vocal or a
Speaker 3: break or whatever. And it went on like that for years.
Speaker 3: Nine times out of ten when I went to the
Speaker 3: woods behind my house, I'd hardly ever have anything happen.
Speaker 3: Then I broke the cardinal rule that I held off
Speaker 3: on doing for years, started gifting, started putting eggs out,
Speaker 3: And I tell you right now, I wish I would
Speaker 3: have done that from the beginning. The key point to
Speaker 3: this is I don't even think they're eating the egg.
Speaker 3: I think they're smart enough to recognize that I'm just
Speaker 3: leaving things in their area. It basically started in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three. After leaving the egg sometimes vegetables got a garden,
Speaker 3: I'd leave that out there. But there's a hill that
Speaker 3: I consider their hill. I went out there one night
Speaker 3: just checking on things that I left. I got done.
Speaker 3: I walked down to the bottom of the hill. I
Speaker 3: went across the creek. There was a either a wood
Speaker 3: knock or a break coming from light behind where I
Speaker 3: was just at where the eggs. So I walk up
Speaker 3: the hill to this clearing and I do a wood knock,
Speaker 3: which I never do. I don't ever do would because
Speaker 3: I'm on the edge of a wildlife management There are
Speaker 3: a neighborhood line the area like my house, so I've
Speaker 3: never done would. I did a wood knock and there
Speaker 3: was an object that was thrown. I did another wood
Speaker 3: knock and there was another object for on again, which
Speaker 3: I've never had that app where it seemed like I
Speaker 3: did something and then they respond. I went out the
Speaker 3: next night, either the next night or the night after that,
Speaker 3: I went out there, started out with a wood knock again.
Speaker 3: They came to the area. They did breaks through object
Speaker 3: and it sounded like one got very close behind me,
Speaker 3: ran up behind me. Now I'm out there with no flashlight.
Speaker 3: I use a kim light going back and forth in
Speaker 3: the equipment I used because at first I was scared
Speaker 3: to take too much out there with me. I would
Speaker 3: just use a GoPro my cell phone. Then eventually I
Speaker 3: incorporated the thermal end of the story is about five
Speaker 3: or six different evenings in fall of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: from September October November. I would go down to that spot,
Speaker 3: I would do would knock, and they would come in
Speaker 3: between five to fifteen minutes later, and then do these interactions.
Speaker 3: I've got some of the craziest breaks you've ever heard,
Speaker 3: breaking trees, and then you hear the running off. I
Speaker 3: don't even know how to describe going from five years
Speaker 3: of just petty stuff, just getting lucky basically, and then
Speaker 3: getting it to that point September October November. It ended
Speaker 3: I didn't have anything happened throughout the winter, and had
Speaker 3: a little bit happened during the spring, and then twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four it started up again around the same exact time.
Speaker 3: I think in two months I had seven different night
Speaker 3: of activity like that. Eventually I worked in the night
Speaker 3: vision camera. We got it set up behind me. The
Speaker 3: whole first year is nothing but pretty much audio and
Speaker 3: then a little bit of video where you can see
Speaker 3: a glow stick and that's about all the light because
Speaker 3: I don't use any flashlights. But I finally got to
Speaker 3: the point where I could feel confident about because I
Speaker 3: would bring that night vision camera out the wavelength of
Speaker 3: the IR. You can see the light. You got a
Speaker 3: big red light on the side of the camera, and
Speaker 3: I would bring it out there and nothing would happen.
Speaker 3: That would happen over and over again. There'd be nice
Speaker 3: for a thermal out there. Something would start to happen,
Speaker 3: and then I put the thermal up to my face
Speaker 3: and then everything would just quit. So I just kept
Speaker 3: going back and forth trying to figure out what equipment
Speaker 3: I was allowed to have basically according to them. But
Speaker 3: last year there's about I think five of those nights.
Speaker 3: You've got the camera set up behind me. You can
Speaker 3: see my reactions. I've got all the audio. God bro
Speaker 3: that I wear something for my cell phone. One of
Speaker 3: the last things that happened last year is on my
Speaker 3: way out, I wasn't even going out actually going out
Speaker 3: there to make a video channel. So I was in
Speaker 3: a hurry and I heard what sounded like an armadillo
Speaker 3: rooting around on the side of my yard near the
Speaker 3: chicken pin. I'm going out there and I catch this
Speaker 3: part something running off and it looks like this gray
Speaker 3: It's about the size of the body of a German
Speaker 3: shepherd or a mid sized dog. Now I didn't get
Speaker 3: a great look at it, but I definitely couldn't recognize
Speaker 3: what I was seeing. That looked like a long oar
Speaker 3: and then gray hair. I kept on going to my
Speaker 3: sitting spot. What made me think that this was probably
Speaker 3: a juvenile is after all those nights, I never felt
Speaker 3: like there was any animosity behind the objects being thrown.
Speaker 3: I had two different nights where they got very close.
Speaker 3: One night they probably twenty five feet behind and did
Speaker 3: an intentional break and then you can hear the running
Speaker 3: off in the audio, But it just seemed like they
Speaker 3: were playing. That night kind of seemed like I ticked
Speaker 3: them off, because finally, after going out having all this activity,
Speaker 3: I got three different objects that are one you can
Speaker 3: actually see, but I've got two different objects that are
Speaker 3: thrown right over my head. One almost distant camera comes
Speaker 3: right down by my head and then the third one
Speaker 3: comes bouncing in. You actually see it on the camera
Speaker 3: on the night vision camera. It bounces in, and I
Speaker 3: was a little concerned that maybe I overstepped, that maybe
Speaker 3: that was a juvenile and they didn't like that. Think
Speaker 3: what happened if it was them. I went out my
Speaker 3: front gate instead of my back gate. I didn't going
Speaker 3: out the back gate. But I think what was going
Speaker 3: on is that Armadilla was making so much noise and
Speaker 3: I came up so quick that maybe they weren't expecting me.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they liked it, because the throws
Speaker 3: got closed. But this year, the dogs were going nuts.
Speaker 3: And that's how it always starts. Like ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: of the time, my dogs will start going nuts, and
Speaker 3: then in the neighborhood the dogs start going nuts. It
Speaker 3: may do that for a couple of days before I
Speaker 3: actually have that. But I was having that happen and
Speaker 3: I was shooting the docu series. I needed some b
Speaker 3: footage of me driving up my driveway, so I left
Speaker 3: my phone out there recording would record me pulling up.
Speaker 3: The whole process took winning minute, and I brought it
Speaker 3: back inside. I happened to think well, I left that
Speaker 3: phone out there fifteen minutes by itself. I better check
Speaker 3: it lo and behold, there's sounds of rock throwing. So
Speaker 3: the second night, I set that night vision camera up
Speaker 3: in the same spot and pretended to do the same thing.
Speaker 3: I actually had to trash can from the end of
Speaker 3: the road, which is like a quarter of a mile
Speaker 3: a long, so I set it up in that same spot.
Speaker 3: I went out, got my trash can, took my time,
Speaker 3: came back, went inside, and there's two different times where
Speaker 3: Gamera catches very obvious eyeshine, like across my driveway in
Speaker 3: the woodline right in front of it, and then very
Speaker 3: obvious rock throw it. And that's pretty much spend the
Speaker 3: last thing that's happened around here to be able to
Speaker 3: go down to that sitting spot. I was telling Brian earlier,
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if this went to the
Speaker 3: point to where they actually try to touch me while
Speaker 3: I'm sitting out there. My whole goal is to be
Speaker 3: out there in the dark. It took me several nights
Speaker 3: of this going out there to get the courage to
Speaker 3: actually sit on my butt. I've experienced some scary things before,
Speaker 3: but me trying to work up the courage to sit
Speaker 3: on my butt when I know they're out there. It
Speaker 3: took a lot. It took a whole lot. The only
Speaker 3: thing that makes me think that this wasn't like a
Speaker 3: territorial thing from the beginning is that first year in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, I think I had two or three
Speaker 3: nights of me going back there and having that act.
Speaker 3: It was rolling around in my head. What if they're
Speaker 3: being aggressive, then they're trying to run me out? Didn't
Speaker 3: feel like it. I'm a human being. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 3: putting my own spin on. I think I'm making progress
Speaker 3: with these creatures and we getting a little bit of trust. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: they won't be gone for all I know. I didn't
Speaker 3: go out there for about a week, and then my
Speaker 3: father came into town and we're sitting on my front foor.
Speaker 3: There was a throw that landed and hit and I
Speaker 3: hadn't talked that much to my father. I had mentioned
Speaker 3: what I was doing with bigfoot and everything. I looked
Speaker 3: at it and I said, you're about to find out
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? So I think that was them,
Speaker 3: And here's them with the bigfoot I've been telling you about.
Speaker 3: And he said as long as they don't hit my truck.
Speaker 3: He just got up and went inside. Well, I just
Speaker 3: walked straight over to the side of my yard. I
Speaker 3: think I threw two rocks, and then they threw a rock,
Speaker 3: and then I threw another object, and they did a
Speaker 3: very loud, obvious break. So it was kind of like
Speaker 3: I hadn't been down there in a while. It's almost
Speaker 3: like they came and got because that was pretty much
Speaker 3: where in my head I was getting permission. I guess
Speaker 3: you could say that's pretty much it. That's where we're
Speaker 3: at with everything.
Speaker 1: So many questions. I'm going to work backwards. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the armadillo thing. As you're talking, I'm imagining
Speaker 1: what could possibly be the scenario going on there. Have
Speaker 1: you considered it all that maybe they started throwing rocks
Speaker 1: at you, because there's a possibility they were about to
Speaker 1: eat this armadillo and you were messing with the situation.
Speaker 1: Have you given that any thought as to what might
Speaker 1: have been going on with that scenario.
Speaker 3: It was still alive, obviously, because it was rooting around.
Speaker 3: I've seen one of these things run across the field
Speaker 3: on all fours. If they wanted that armadillo it would
Speaker 3: take half a second and then they'd be gold. I
Speaker 3: honestly don't think there's anything that I could do that
Speaker 3: would stop them from doing anything they wanted to at
Speaker 3: any given moment, except for maybe they just don't want
Speaker 3: to be directly seen. Your guess is as good as mine.
Speaker 3: Farewell could have been that situation. There's armadillos out here,
Speaker 3: although they could be eating them.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the gifting thing because
Speaker 1: you said something very interesting in the beginning of that
Speaker 1: whole exchange, was you wish you had been gifting way
Speaker 1: before you started gifting, given your experiences with them up
Speaker 1: until the point where you started leaving eggs, and then
Speaker 1: what you've experienced after that, do you think that the
Speaker 1: gifting was the point of no return. Let's say that
Speaker 1: made a difference in the interactions with them one way
Speaker 1: or the other, and stay tuned for more sasquatch you
Speaker 1: o't to see. We'll be right back after.
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Speaker 3: I do. I think that the first couple of years,
Speaker 3: probably the first two and a half years, it felt
Speaker 3: like I was strictly dealing with an adult. That's what
Speaker 3: I saw was the adult. I've been growled at three
Speaker 3: times by what sounds like the same one. I've got
Speaker 3: one of the growls recorded on my driveway. I'm standing
Speaker 3: there on my driveway. You hear it, and then it
Speaker 3: ends up. It not only growls, but when my dog
Speaker 3: is over there responding and barking, it actually stomps and
Speaker 3: has at it. It's a wild recording, and it's as
Speaker 3: clear as you get. There's sometimes there can be audio.
Speaker 3: This misidentification, this is not that. There's just no way
Speaker 3: around them. Then, after about two and a half years,
Speaker 3: I started getting the interactions that felt like they were juveniles.
Speaker 3: Then I had a situation where I had what I
Speaker 3: think is too sounded like juveniles. I didn't see them,
Speaker 3: but they mimicked an owl, and then when I did
Speaker 3: it back them, they were like two excited kids did
Speaker 3: it right back to me, and it was like the
Speaker 3: crappiest imitation of an owl ever, Like they were imitating
Speaker 3: my crappy imitation of their imitation is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3: Then we found juvenile track. I got a thermal that's
Speaker 3: not good enough to really tell back. Then I've got
Speaker 3: a good image of what I think is a juvenile now.
Speaker 3: I think every bit of this, starting from when they
Speaker 3: were basically harassing my neighbors to the semi territorial way
Speaker 3: they were interacting with me, I think that every bit
Speaker 3: it was a tat. For whatever reason, I think they
Speaker 3: wanted to stay in and around this area. Sounds like
Speaker 3: something humans would do. You would test the people in
Speaker 3: your area to figure out what kind of reactions you
Speaker 3: were going to get. That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 3: And then eventually that changed, but seemed more like curiosity.
Speaker 3: And then it might just be a quistence. Maybe the
Speaker 3: gifting had nothing to do with it, but for whatever
Speaker 3: reason they decided they wanted to start interacting when I
Speaker 3: was back there, I'll never know. It's all ninety aur
Speaker 3: percent of this is guess work. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people think that these creatures are danger. They very
Speaker 3: well could. They could be snatching a thousand people a year.
Speaker 3: But all I know to do is go based upon
Speaker 3: what I know, what I've experienced here on my own problem.
Speaker 3: But I don't live way out hot water, so I
Speaker 3: would imagine the temperament and what they can get away
Speaker 3: with is probably different there as opposed to hear the
Speaker 3: whole gifting thing the way I looked at that, which,
Speaker 3: like I said, you hear all the time, don't get
Speaker 3: stop gifting. They'll get mad, be belligerent, get violent. And
Speaker 3: I thought that was a good rule of thumb for
Speaker 3: a while, and then I happen to think, wait a second.
Speaker 3: The reason why we haven't proved these things exist yet
Speaker 3: because we can't tell where they're going to be, when
Speaker 3: they're going to be there, and what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: But you're telling me that I could do this particular
Speaker 3: thing and know pretty much all of them and be
Speaker 3: ready because if they're going to be violent or belligerent,
Speaker 3: that's something I'm going to be able to record. But
Speaker 3: that's not getting recorded. That's not what happened. I started
Speaker 3: doing it, and like I said, I don't even know
Speaker 3: that they're actually taking.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that the gifting thing has been
Speaker 1: something that I have never put a ton of stock in,
Speaker 1: even though the very first things that started happening on
Speaker 1: our land here in North Carolina was vocalizations. Then I
Speaker 1: find this weird turtleshell stuck into the side of a
Speaker 1: stump on a freaking track that I walk the dogs on,
Speaker 1: so it almost felt like that's how they were trying
Speaker 1: to communicate with me. I still haven't put a ton
Speaker 1: of stock in it. We were using sun butter, like
Speaker 1: ground up sunflower seeds. I would put some jars of
Speaker 1: that out, and they've taken several of them out of
Speaker 1: a stump that they would have to have had, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, a hand very similar to ours. It was
Speaker 1: a hollowed out sixteen eighteen inch round cedar stump. The
Speaker 1: middle is ritted out, and I would stick the jars
Speaker 1: down in there. So I don't even know how a
Speaker 1: raccoon or anything else would be able to take it.
Speaker 1: But I've never really put a ton of stock in
Speaker 1: the gifting. But I have talked to so many people
Speaker 1: that have had success. I'm using my air quotes for
Speaker 1: everybody who can't see success with gifting. I have evolved
Speaker 1: just over the last couple of years to think there's
Speaker 1: a there. Richard, let me pull you into this conversation.
Speaker 1: You do a ton of boots on the ground research
Speaker 1: down there in Florida. Are you using or have you
Speaker 1: tried to do gifting? Are you aware of anybody down
Speaker 1: in Florida that's doing gifting and had any kind of
Speaker 1: measure of success at it.
Speaker 5: I personally do not gift because I don't want to
Speaker 5: get as personal one up close to them like Johnny does.
Speaker 5: I'm the guy who wants to take a photo or
Speaker 5: a video from a safe distance. I did one time.
Speaker 5: I guess it's been over a year and a half,
Speaker 5: maybe two years ago. That was the golf ball incident
Speaker 5: where I left an apple. When I was leaving, I
Speaker 5: was actually going on and I left an apple. I
Speaker 5: didn't come back for a week or two. Of course
Speaker 5: the apple was gone, like you, I don't whole lot
Speaker 5: of credence to it, because any animal can walk over
Speaker 5: and take an apple. But there was a golf ball
Speaker 5: left on the side of the stump, but the apple
Speaker 5: was on the top. But on the side of the
Speaker 5: stump there was a golf ball. No, I don't know
Speaker 5: where it came from. But other than that, I don't
Speaker 5: gift now. I do know researchers down here that are gifting,
Speaker 5: but not just really gifting as much as laying items
Speaker 5: out or view to see if they're campered with. If
Speaker 5: the colors have changed. You had read now it's blue red, blue, red,
Speaker 5: Now I've seen some success in that, not just from
Speaker 5: the local groups that I deal with here and what
Speaker 5: they're posting, but also Christopher Noel was big on that.
Speaker 5: For the autistic thing about lining things up and having
Speaker 5: an order is very interesting to me. Johnny's in a
Speaker 5: very unique, fascinating place where he can just walk outside
Speaker 5: and he's in the midst of what's going on where
Speaker 5: I have to travel and with my work schedule, I
Speaker 5: don't know if I can get back in enough time
Speaker 5: to actually see progress made or make it a regular
Speaker 5: basis where I can build that relationship with him like
Speaker 5: he does, especially this year. I saw you in April.
Speaker 5: I've gotten out two times, maybe three times in five
Speaker 5: months because my work schedule has just been so unbelievably hectic.
Speaker 5: Now everything's normal, I'm going out. I went out last week,
Speaker 5: going out this week. But as far as habituating them,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that. I can only handle
Speaker 5: so much at any given time.
Speaker 1: I'm a little apprehensive about the gifting, but when I
Speaker 1: hear john say, things clearly changed with the interactions when
Speaker 1: you started gifting, because you're having these certain kinds of
Speaker 1: interactions and then you change what you do as far
Speaker 1: as your behavior. When you go into investigations and you
Speaker 1: start looking at correlations, and I don't believe in coincidence.
Speaker 1: I think everything is done for a reason, and everything
Speaker 1: has a reason. When you look at those things collectively,
Speaker 1: it seems like there is something to the gifting. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought up Christopher Nowell.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they've left me thinks I'm giving away
Speaker 3: the whole Second Harder DOCU series I just worked on.
Speaker 3: I take the same path every time I go out there,
Speaker 3: and I'd walk out there and I'd leave the egg
Speaker 3: and stuff in a couple different places. I try to
Speaker 3: go different things, and there's one stump right on the
Speaker 3: side of the trail, like I have to walk. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter where I leave eggs, I've got to walk
Speaker 3: by that stump. One day I went out there and
Speaker 3: there I still have the rock. It almost was like
Speaker 3: a Native American skinning rock, and it's just sitting up
Speaker 3: there just as obvious as can be. I kept it.
Speaker 3: Obviously I still have it today. And then there was
Speaker 3: another situation where I didn't think anything about it when
Speaker 3: I first walked up on it, but I was out
Speaker 3: there putting eggs out there another time. I may have
Speaker 3: already talked about it. Last time, I found half of
Speaker 3: the squirrel, the bottom half of a squirrel. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: that's weird. I thought maybe I probably just spook something
Speaker 3: that was out here munching on this squirrel. It was
Speaker 3: weird that it seemed like it. I didn't do an
Speaker 3: autopsy on it, but it looked like it was cut
Speaker 3: in half. But there wasn't a bunch of blood and
Speaker 3: guts everywhere. It was just the bottom half of a squirrel.
Speaker 3: The next day, my wife calls me and tells me
Speaker 3: that there is a dead squirrel behind my chicken coop.
Speaker 3: So I get home and I go back there. In
Speaker 3: about ten feet away from the back of my chicken coop,
Speaker 3: there's another squirrel. But this one was just as christine
Speaker 3: as can be. It's dead, but like it just fell
Speaker 3: asleep right there. There was nothing wrong with it that
Speaker 3: I because the fact that there is unless I see
Speaker 3: one of them leave me something. It's just a guess.
Speaker 3: I don't know that for sure. I'm just guessing it's
Speaker 3: contact squeak. That's all I'm working with. But when I
Speaker 3: go out there and there's half a squirrel in the
Speaker 3: area where I'm leaving egg, and then I don't take it,
Speaker 3: and then the next day behind my chicken coop there's
Speaker 3: a brand new squirrel laying there. Squirrels do die. Things
Speaker 3: eat squirrels. But it just seemed like too much of wincidence.
Speaker 3: You see where my head's going. We're making progress because
Speaker 3: I never really had much of that app But it's basically
Speaker 3: a hit and run or a drive by, about ninety
Speaker 3: nine opportunities. When it all started changing, when I started
Speaker 3: going back there and doing that, I guess I can
Speaker 3: go one hundred different ways, but that's where we're at
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: One of the things you said earlier that stuck out
Speaker 1: with me that I want to touch on is the
Speaker 1: dog activity. Our nearest full time neighbor is about a
Speaker 1: mile away on our road here, but we have other
Speaker 1: neighbors that are two three miles down the road, and
Speaker 1: I can walk out any given night and it is
Speaker 1: dead ass silent, nothing but crickets, nothing but frogs. But
Speaker 1: there are times when the dogs in this area I
Speaker 1: can hear them. It sounds like they're mile away, two
Speaker 1: miles away, three miles away, going batshit crazy. I have
Speaker 1: heard some weird vocalizations. When I started sharing some of
Speaker 1: the things that were happening on the property earlier on
Speaker 1: Doug Hicheck's a good friend of mine. Doug would call
Speaker 1: me up and say, Hey, I heard you talking about
Speaker 1: this on the show. Has anything slapped your house? Any
Speaker 1: dead animals? Because he's talked to so many people, documented
Speaker 1: so many encounters experiences with these things where they're leaving
Speaker 1: people quote unquote gifts of rabbits torn in half, squirrels
Speaker 1: torn in half. We haven't experienced that, but we have
Speaker 1: had the dogs that are barking in the area. It
Speaker 1: seems to coincide with some of the vocalizations and some
Speaker 1: of the other activity that we've had on our property.
Speaker 1: Is it completely separate. Maybe they're barking at another dog.
Speaker 1: Is that possible? Sure, But if you live in an
Speaker 1: area long enough, and we've been out here full time
Speaker 1: about five years on the property, you see these patterns
Speaker 1: and you become aware as far as the dog relation
Speaker 1: with this possible activity. I've documented tons of experiences with
Speaker 1: people claiming that their dogs have been killed by these creatures.
Speaker 1: One comes to mind from Louisiana. I interviewed a guy
Speaker 1: probably four years ago, who had one of their hunting
Speaker 1: dogs killed and thrown out of the woods at them
Speaker 1: on a hunt. I'm a dog lover. I love dogs
Speaker 1: more than I love people. That kind of shit really
Speaker 1: bothers me to I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about something else you mentioned earlier, Johnny, As you said
Speaker 1: maybe the next step in your progression may be one
Speaker 1: of these things coming up and touching you. I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure. I'm okay with that. I've been within nine
Speaker 1: or ten feet of one of these things last year
Speaker 1: when I was out of the Pacific Northwest, when I
Speaker 1: had my couple of encounters.
Speaker 5: That was close enough for me.
Speaker 1: But I tell you, one of the things that comes
Speaker 1: to mind when you were telling that story and talking
Speaker 1: about that is I was up in Radium, BC, Candida
Speaker 1: with Todd standing. I guess it was October of twenty three.
Speaker 1: God time flies when you're having fun. So it's been
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, year and a half ago.
Speaker 1: One of the things we were experiencing was wood knocks,
Speaker 1: some whoops, and other things that were going on. We'd
Speaker 1: had rocks thrown at us a couple of times over
Speaker 1: the course of those seven days. We went on a
Speaker 1: night height. I'm gonna tell you, I'm not afraid of
Speaker 1: a lot. I've been in some shit. I've been shot at,
Speaker 1: I've been in some situations that I wouldn't wish anybody in.
Speaker 1: And I was scared shitless. I was shaking, I was nervous.
Speaker 1: We had no flashlights, we had no light at all.
Speaker 1: You couldn't see the hand in front of your face.
Speaker 1: We were literally having to walk with hands on shoulders
Speaker 1: down this trail to get to this area. It was
Speaker 1: the hardest thing I have ever done in my life,
Speaker 1: was to sit right on my ass in the middle
Speaker 1: of the woods and BC Canada, with what I believe
Speaker 1: to be a sasquatch twenty yards away from us in
Speaker 1: the woods knocking on a tree. I can totally relate
Speaker 1: to that. Having said that, having that experience last year
Speaker 1: where I was ten feet away from this thing and
Speaker 1: I chased it up a heel, I was going to
Speaker 1: try to catch this thing. Dumbest shit I've ever done
Speaker 1: in my life. There was no way I was ever
Speaker 1: going to get any closer than I already was for
Speaker 1: this thing to let me see it. But I had
Speaker 1: no fear at that point. So I have had a
Speaker 1: hard time wrapping my brain around why was I so
Speaker 1: afraid in Canada to sit down and just be when
Speaker 1: this thing was doing wood knocks. But yet I'm nine
Speaker 1: or ten feet away from this thing, can almost physically
Speaker 1: touch it, and I chase it up a heel. I
Speaker 1: know this is a long segue into getting there, but
Speaker 1: I'm talking a little bit about the flesh and blood
Speaker 1: versus the woo part of this, because the other weird
Speaker 1: shit that happened in in Washington State last year was
Speaker 1: we saw eye glow, not eyeshine, self illuminating white eyes.
Speaker 1: I was ten feet away from these things when this happened,
Speaker 1: two sets of and then when they disappeared, I think
Speaker 1: they dropped down to the ground. I can't prove that
Speaker 1: that's what I felt. They were bobbing and weaving, and
Speaker 1: then they disappeared, and I felt like they went down
Speaker 1: to the ground when that happened. When they disappeared, we
Speaker 1: threw our lights on up the trail where these things
Speaker 1: were standing, and we saw this thing crossed across the
Speaker 1: trail ten feet in front of me. Glowing eyes makes
Speaker 1: no sense physiologically, human beings don't even have eye shine.
Speaker 1: We don't have a to pay them loose of them
Speaker 1: to have eye shine if somebody shines a light in
Speaker 1: our face. I've talked about this tons of times since
Speaker 1: that experience, in order for that to happen, if these
Speaker 1: things are very similar to us, and I think they are,
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. I think there's some sort of
Speaker 1: a great ape, there's somewhere on our she family tree
Speaker 1: that would be unique for them to a have something
Speaker 1: that would even have eyeshine. But then you go beyond that,
Speaker 1: and this was self illuminating white eye glow. I want
Speaker 1: to go one at a time here. I'll start with
Speaker 1: Richard and then I'll move to Johnny. Are these creatures
Speaker 1: flesh and blood? Is there more to them? Are they
Speaker 1: flesh and blood with some of these other abilities? Because
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I used to think people
Speaker 1: were completely full of shit when they talked about glowing
Speaker 1: eyes until I saw it for myself, and I can
Speaker 1: no longer doubt that. Let's start with Richard. Where are
Speaker 1: you on interesting high strangeness kind of experiences with them?
Speaker 1: And do you think they're flesh and blood and they
Speaker 1: have some sort of ability to maybe do those things?
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 5: I think anybody that knows me knows my reputation. I
Speaker 5: am not into the supernatural portion a bigfoot at all. Zero.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying there's not paranormal stuff or supernatural stuff,
Speaker 5: but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
Speaker 5: I need to bridge the two together. What connect the two?
Speaker 5: So if you see an orb, what connect that to
Speaker 5: a bigfoot? Instead of just claiming an orb is a
Speaker 5: bigfoot or there's a big butt in the area. I
Speaker 5: need that bridge. I'm one hundred percent flesh and blood.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: When we talk about eyeshine, I had a totally different
Speaker 5: view of it. To be honest with I just disregarded
Speaker 5: it because it has not happened to me. Until we
Speaker 5: interviewed Todnyth. We got into the discussion of eyeshine. He
Speaker 5: gave a natural explanation on how it's possible without it
Speaker 5: being paranormal supernatural. It opened my eyes. It made me think, Okay,
Speaker 5: there is something to this self illuminating eye, but it's
Speaker 5: not supernatural. He explains it in such an intricate way
Speaker 5: it really opened my eye. I'm pro that it does happen.
Speaker 5: I am because of that interview, and that's a great
Speaker 5: thing about being a podcast. When you're talking to all
Speaker 5: these other people, it does open you up to some
Speaker 5: other horizons that makes you think. I believe it's natural
Speaker 5: for them. It's not paranormal supernatural. I think they're able
Speaker 5: to take very little ambient light. It can be just
Speaker 5: the moon, or it could be just the stars. We
Speaker 5: correlate eyeshine with flashlights. Got to have a headlights on
Speaker 5: it to see the eyeshine. According to his theory and
Speaker 5: what he's learned, there's an ability. He mentions other animals
Speaker 5: to have this ability. It takes very little ambient light
Speaker 5: that they can now refocus on the backside of their eye,
Speaker 5: basically giving them night vision, which really pertains to night
Speaker 5: vision in general. Night vision has to have some level
Speaker 5: of ambient light to be better. It has to receive
Speaker 5: an to project information so you see what's in front
Speaker 5: of you, not like a thermal but night vision needs
Speaker 5: that light going out to come back. And I think
Speaker 5: that's basically when I break it down to Layman's term,
Speaker 5: so I better understand it. It's kind of like night
Speaker 5: vision classes. They're taking very little ambient light in the
Speaker 5: wood or at nighttime, and I think they're able to
Speaker 5: use that to be able to see better and see
Speaker 5: at night and stuff like that, because I am a
Speaker 5: true believer they do see at night. They see better
Speaker 5: than we do, and just as well as all the
Speaker 5: other animals that see this also at night.
Speaker 1: Johnny, what'sa you about the woo slash high strangeness, glowing
Speaker 1: eyes in the darkness.
Speaker 3: With the eyes shine. I think there's so many adaptations
Speaker 3: that different animals have that I think totally possible that
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, their eyes are different and they can
Speaker 3: actually project light somehow someway. If this is the way
Speaker 3: Richard is saying, there's too many people out there, including yourself,
Speaker 3: that have reported it to not believe. I believe it happens,
Speaker 3: but without an autopsy. Again, if you're not really gonna
Speaker 3: know the answer to that, when it comes to the
Speaker 3: possibility that these creatures are eliminal in between, whether they're
Speaker 3: nephilim or paranormal, supernatural alien, all that stuff. I went
Speaker 3: through stages myself at the very beginning trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what I was dealing with well before my wife
Speaker 3: and I in twenty twelve had a extremely profound spiritual experience.
Speaker 3: It opened my eyes up to the fact that side
Speaker 3: of our reality exists. It was years after that the
Speaker 3: sasquatch activity happened, or started to happen. It is twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen when that started. When people report seeing orbs
Speaker 3: and sasquatch activity. The only thing I can say is
Speaker 3: just because two different phenomenon are in this same area
Speaker 3: that we don't understand, it does not mean those phenomenon
Speaker 3: are connected or the same thing. You could have more
Speaker 3: than one thing going on in there. You're in the
Speaker 3: woods with whatever else is in the wood. I think
Speaker 3: the mass majority of all the different aspects people claim
Speaker 3: they have abilities, I think a lot of it comes
Speaker 3: down to their intellect, their speed, their strength. Seem to
Speaker 3: be self aware. It's almost like if human beings decided,
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't want to live in cities
Speaker 3: and towns, and scientifically they could create the perfect body
Speaker 3: to carry a human brain in to be the ultimate
Speaker 3: survival machine in the wilderness. That's what these things seem
Speaker 3: to be. They seem to have a very high level
Speaker 3: of intellect, but they are just unbelievably just over the
Speaker 3: top physically adapt to every kind of environment, like when
Speaker 3: it comes to structures. I don't think they live instruction.
Speaker 3: They might. I have heard stories of researchers that found
Speaker 3: huge ones way out in the middle of nowhere with
Speaker 3: huge log where there's a lot of snow. That might
Speaker 3: be a possibility. I don't know, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: I don't think they need that. So my long winded
Speaker 3: answer is I'm leaning towards not paranormal or spiritual whatever.
Speaker 3: But as a researcher. In our group together, we decided
Speaker 3: it's from the get go that we were going to
Speaker 3: report what happened, and that's it didn't matter if it
Speaker 3: made us uncomfortable. And it's hard as a researcher, it's hard.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you want to leave things out because you want
Speaker 3: people to believe you. But if you leave things out,
Speaker 3: you might as well be lying, is the way I
Speaker 3: see it, because you're not giving the full picture of
Speaker 3: what's going on.
Speaker 5: Johnny, I think it was you that made the comment
Speaker 5: that if these are paranormal, then there's no way we're
Speaker 5: going to prove it. How are you going to prove it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one weird thing that I will say. It
Speaker 3: may just come down to the fact, well, not even
Speaker 3: here on my old property the day that I had
Speaker 3: the sightings with my team out in East Georgia. It's
Speaker 3: really weird how that it's almost like there's three steps
Speaker 3: ahead of us at all times, no matter what we do,
Speaker 3: Like the interactions that I have down here at the
Speaker 3: back of my property, I cannot, for the life of
Speaker 3: me figure out how when you look at the area,
Speaker 3: it all goes downhill and it goes into a creek,
Speaker 3: and I don't exactly know where they're throwing the objects from.
Speaker 3: When I hear a break and then I turn my
Speaker 3: thermal over there. I keep it there for five minutes
Speaker 3: and don't see It's just gets super annoying. But it
Speaker 3: feels like something else is going on. And then I
Speaker 3: think about the intellect, think about how fast they are,
Speaker 3: think about they can move at will and be almost
Speaker 3: completely silent if they want to be. At this point,
Speaker 3: it's almost I feel like I'm hunting you, trying to
Speaker 3: prove the X men exist. They just out Matt out
Speaker 3: classes you know.
Speaker 5: Can's the other thing.
Speaker 1: And you brought this up, Richard, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: start with you on this question.
Speaker 5: But this is for you and Johnny.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I have completely dismissed hands down, wholeheartedly,
Speaker 1: with a few exceptions, over the course of interviewing probably
Speaker 1: a thousand or more people at this point about Bigfoot
Speaker 1: encounters is the mind speak, the telepathic communication that people
Speaker 1: claim to have had with them. You brought up Christopher
Speaker 1: Noel earlier. I've had Chris on the show. I like Chris.
Speaker 1: I think he's a super phenomenal nice guy, but I've
Speaker 1: always thought he was a batshit crazy with this savant
Speaker 1: theory of Bigfoot being a possible telepathic savant. But I've
Speaker 1: infamously talked about multiple times on the show since I
Speaker 1: got turned on to I don't know who I interviewed.
Speaker 1: It might have been Chris, it might have been somebody
Speaker 1: else that told me about the he tapes. It's a
Speaker 1: podcast done by Kai Dickinson. It has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with big but it's all about these autistic children that
Speaker 1: are nonverbal or limitedly verbal in their communication, who have
Speaker 1: telepathic communication connections with their families, teachers, caregivers. Hands Down.
Speaker 1: You can listen to the first season of the podcast
Speaker 1: if you get past episode three or four and you
Speaker 1: don't believe in telepathy, I think you're a bad shit crazy.
Speaker 1: It's proven, there's a PhD doing these studies. These kids
Speaker 1: have a telepathic communication with these people.
Speaker 5: It's real.
Speaker 1: It's a two way connection that they have. My buddy
Speaker 1: Less Stroud Let's has talked about it on the show.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it privately. I'm going out on expedition
Speaker 1: with Less towards the end of the year, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to have even more in depth conversations around that topic. Specifically,
Speaker 1: he shared with me at least three instances that come
Speaker 1: to mind off the top of my head where he
Speaker 1: feels like he was telepathically communicated with a Sasquatch.
Speaker 3: I'll start with you, Richard.
Speaker 1: How do you address things like that when you are
Speaker 1: from a very I think all three of us, if
Speaker 1: we had to plant a flag right now as we're talking,
Speaker 1: I think all three of us, at least I'll speak
Speaker 1: for myself. I'd come down in the flesh and blood camp.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's possible that if there are
Speaker 1: kids and people that I believe have telepathic abilities, why
Speaker 1: is it such a stretch when there are people who
Speaker 1: have done tons of research. I've got three books right
Speaker 1: here in my house by very well known PhDs that
Speaker 1: have looked into the telepathic communication that humans have with
Speaker 1: their dogs. Is it outside the realm of the possibility
Speaker 1: for you, as a sasquatch researcher that albeit, maybe some
Speaker 1: of these people that are talking about sasquatch talking in
Speaker 1: their head, maybe that shit crazy, But is it possible
Speaker 1: for you as a researcher that there is maybe that
Speaker 1: possibility that some of that stuff could be real. I
Speaker 1: believe me and you, Brian, have had a discussion on
Speaker 1: this and it passed about mind speak. Here's where I
Speaker 1: stand on it, and let's step back for a moment
Speaker 1: with Christopher Noel when I brought that up. Is his
Speaker 1: autism parallel with sasquatch is very intriguing theory because we're
Speaker 1: talking about behavior.
Speaker 5: Let's not talk about mind speak, but behavior, the rocking
Speaker 5: the order in which it does things. I have a
Speaker 5: autistic granddaughter. She's nonverbal, but she will do something repeatedly
Speaker 5: for hours. If you change it, she gets very upset.
Speaker 5: Change the channel on the TV, or you didn't put
Speaker 5: the food on a plate a very specific way, or
Speaker 5: something like that. You know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 5: always thought that theory that Chris had was very intriguing
Speaker 5: to me. But as far as when we delve into
Speaker 5: the mind speak, I think people it's easier to read
Speaker 5: behavior than it is anything else. I can look at
Speaker 5: you like this and you're like, Okay, something's irritating rig
Speaker 5: But I didn't say a word, and I didn't put
Speaker 5: it in your mind. It's just how I portraying myself.
Speaker 5: So like dogs, you're very tight with your animals. So
Speaker 5: if they're acting a certain way, something's wrong, or they're
Speaker 5: not feeling well or something, they're not mind speaking, but
Speaker 5: it's their behavior that you have learned with your relationship
Speaker 5: with your dog, same with a spouse, you learn that
Speaker 5: physical behavior. I've always had this question. I brought this
Speaker 5: up with Ron Morehead because he's big on a mind
Speaker 5: speak thing. He brought up birds. He said, when birds
Speaker 5: are flying and then they all change direction at the
Speaker 5: same time, he thinks there's some level of mind speak
Speaker 5: where they all know when they're doing this and this,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, let's say that's correct. That's interspecies.
Speaker 5: Now we're talking a gorilla talking to a dog or
Speaker 5: a dog talking to a chimpanzee or a champanzee talking
Speaker 5: to a giraffe. I don't think they'd have that relationship
Speaker 5: because they're not the same species. I can understand human
Speaker 5: behavior better then I can understand another animal's behavior. You
Speaker 5: dream in the language that you know, Okay, when you
Speaker 5: go to bed at night, you dream. You don't dream
Speaker 5: in German. You don't dream in French, you don't dream
Speaker 5: in Chinese. You dream in English. The people in your
Speaker 5: dreams are talking in English. When you have thoughts in
Speaker 5: your head at work, it's in English. It's just my theory.
Speaker 5: If sasquatch mind spoke, would I even understand what he's saying?
Speaker 5: Or would he even understand what I'm thinking? Now? He
Speaker 5: may understand emotion or body behavior, may see me as
Speaker 5: a threat, maybe see me as non threat, But as
Speaker 5: far as communicating with me in a manner that I
Speaker 5: would understand what he is trying to tell me, I
Speaker 5: just don't think that's possible when there is a huge
Speaker 5: mental and vocal vocabulary barrier between us. I'm not a
Speaker 5: big fan of mind speak. Again, human minds are extremely complex.
Speaker 5: My mind has done it, Your mind has done it.
Speaker 5: Where it has told you. It's made you feel fearful
Speaker 5: when you shouldn't be fearful. It's made you feel anxiety
Speaker 5: when there's no reason. The mind does crazy things to you.
Speaker 5: I spend a lot of time in the woods by myself,
Speaker 5: and I've done it live when I do my videos,
Speaker 5: where I'll stop and I'll tell the camera I'm not
Speaker 5: feeling comfortable right now. I feel a little smoop. I
Speaker 5: think I should leave this.
Speaker 1: Area and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 5: Now. Is that mind speak or something like that? Or
Speaker 5: is it just my intuition that I don't feel comfortable,
Speaker 5: or maybe the area that I'm in got darker. The
Speaker 5: sun went behind the cloud at that time, and it
Speaker 5: just made me feel gloomy. I don't know, but it's
Speaker 5: my mind. If you can get past that, I'm sure
Speaker 5: like this is something Johnny would definitely understand. Being a
Speaker 5: prior military, especially in a combat position, fear is a
Speaker 5: major thing. But if you can overcome that, you can
Speaker 5: accomplish so much more. Now fear is not the obstacle anymore.
Speaker 5: I still have not reached that point where I'm in
Speaker 5: the woods that once I get food, I really don't
Speaker 5: want to take five more steps. I want to turn
Speaker 5: around and go into an area. And it's happened to me,
Speaker 5: and it's happened to me with somebody where we're walking,
Speaker 5: and we both looked at each other at the same time, going, dude,
Speaker 5: I don't feel comfortable, and they're like, dude, I feel it, dude.
Speaker 5: We turn around and walk fifty yards the opposite direction.
Speaker 5: We feel great, we feel wonderful. But I didn't hear
Speaker 5: voices in my head telling me get out. Like I said,
Speaker 5: I can't get past the vocabulary human language, bigfoot language,
Speaker 5: because I do believe they have a language. I do
Speaker 5: believe they do communicate with each other. I don't believe
Speaker 5: they communicate with us other than grunt oulse, screams, gibberish,
Speaker 5: stuff like that. That's all real. That's all stuff that
Speaker 5: has been documented. We know they do these things. I'm
Speaker 5: a forensic guy. I like the forensic. What I can touch, smell, here, taste, whatever.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm focused on. I can't focus on supernatural
Speaker 5: because I can't prove it. I can't measure it, I
Speaker 5: can't document it. In ninety nine, percent of the people
Speaker 5: that give it the supernatural part really don't have receipt
Speaker 5: to back it up other than the story that they're telling.
Speaker 5: Where we have casting, we have hair, we have DNA,
Speaker 5: we have SCAT, we have structures. There's so much forensic evidence,
Speaker 5: and that's what I focus on. So to me, mind
Speaker 5: speak doesn't exist. I just think it either you know
Speaker 5: that sixth cens inside of you or it's just your
Speaker 5: mind making you think. Okay. It's like in my encounter
Speaker 5: that we went over that one time when I was
Speaker 5: leaving the woods, these things were behind me and I
Speaker 5: was scared, and somebody had mentioned this to me on
Speaker 5: one of the shows that I was doing that when
Speaker 5: I was walking out, in my mind kept saying, don't
Speaker 5: turn around, don't turn around, don't look at them, don't run,
Speaker 5: just keep going. They're like, oh, they were in mind
Speaker 5: speaking to you. They were telling you, don't turn around,
Speaker 5: don't try. No, it was me. It was in English.
Speaker 5: In my head. It was me trying to calm myself
Speaker 5: down to get out of there safely. Somebody might have
Speaker 5: said I was mind spoke to It told me to
Speaker 5: get out of the woods. It told me to keep
Speaker 5: walking and don't run it, don't turn around. But with me,
Speaker 5: I knew it was me. It was me calming myself down.
Speaker 5: And sure, like you being in law enforcement, I'm sure
Speaker 5: you've been in that situation where you're talking in your head,
Speaker 5: going through the steps that you need to go through
Speaker 5: to handle the situation that you're about to enter. But
Speaker 5: I don't believe it's mind speak. Johnny.
Speaker 1: What say you about the mind speak?
Speaker 5: My friend?
Speaker 3: I guess two things. Like I was saying before, talking
Speaker 3: about things that make us feel uncomfortable. I never really
Speaker 3: focused on it because I never experienced it. I learned
Speaker 3: a lesson a few years back. Probably the best lesson
Speaker 3: that I've learned I started doing this is when we
Speaker 3: were contacted by he's a team member now god by
Speaker 3: the name of Happy Hair. He told us about an
Speaker 3: event that he had on this property when he was
Speaker 3: nineteen years old. After my partner gaped doh, he told
Speaker 3: me the story. I called bullshit, like, no, that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: It's just over five. And then I talked to Happy
Speaker 3: myself and I'm like, yeah, this guy's telling the truth,
Speaker 3: which had really changed everything because it was absolutely perfect property.
Speaker 3: Now you've got the story where these things have possibly
Speaker 3: made physical contact with him. The third trip we went
Speaker 3: out there, all three of us had our sightings that day.
Speaker 3: If I would have followed my initial instinct with happy,
Speaker 3: I never would have had my sighting. I learned that
Speaker 3: just because you don't initially believe something, probably need to
Speaker 3: keep open. That changed a lot for me back then.
Speaker 3: I've seen the teleptic. We're working in a realm that's
Speaker 3: all dependent on evidence. That's what we're trying to get
Speaker 3: us evidence. When when somebody says, hey, here's evidence of telepathy,
Speaker 3: there's evidence of telepy. I don't know if it's going
Speaker 3: on or not. Like everything else, I try to withhold
Speaker 3: judgment until I experience it myself. I try to keep
Speaker 3: an open mind until something changed.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll stick with you, Johnny before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. I know you mentioned your docuseries. Tell
Speaker 1: everybody what you've got going on, where they can find
Speaker 1: your stuff, where they can go and check out this
Speaker 1: docuseries that you've been working on.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: The YouTube channel is the Sasquatch in counter Brigade. I've
Speaker 3: posted two other videos after that, but the name of
Speaker 3: it is they exist. Seven years of Sasquatch in Georgia.
Speaker 3: It's part one, if I remember Praye, I think it's
Speaker 3: an hour. I don't know when this will come out,
Speaker 3: but I'm hoping to have Art two done within the week.
Speaker 3: Is another two hours from beginning to end. Pretty much
Speaker 3: everything I can remember in order, all along with the
Speaker 3: evidence back at all up. That's pretty much yet. Me
Speaker 3: and Richard, we have our podcast. You want to tell
Speaker 3: them about our podcast?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what I explained to people is me
Speaker 5: and Johnny both have our research channel. This is what
Speaker 5: we're doing. This is when we're in the woods. This
Speaker 5: is when we're doing what we do the Sasquatch and
Speaker 5: Counter Brigade minus BFFG Bigfoot Florida Guy. It was really funny.
Speaker 5: I don't know all was going through Johnny's crazy mine.
Speaker 5: You'll have to answer that. But I was actually on
Speaker 5: a podcast. We're sitting here talking and my phone went
Speaker 5: off and I looked and it was a message from
Speaker 5: Johnny saying, hey, I want to do a podcast. That's
Speaker 5: I responded, yeah. So once I got off that show,
Speaker 5: it was really funny because the guy that was interviewing
Speaker 5: me called me and said, hey, you did an outstanding job.
Speaker 5: You're funny. You want to be my co host? Like, dude,
Speaker 5: if you had asked twenty minutes ago, I would have
Speaker 5: said yes, But I said, Johnny beat you to it.
Speaker 5: Me and Johnny came together, we created this podcast. It's
Speaker 5: about getting to the truth. We want the truth. Johnny's
Speaker 5: geared towards encounters. He wants to hear the encounters and
Speaker 5: what they experience. Those are all great things. I love
Speaker 5: hearing those stories. And sometimes I'm sitting there watching the
Speaker 5: show like I'm in the audience. I'm just listening so
Speaker 5: intently on what these people have to say. Then I'm
Speaker 5: more geared towards the research side. I want to hear
Speaker 5: who's sticking outside the box and who's doing this and
Speaker 5: who's doing that, and what are we doing different Like
Speaker 5: the saying you used to use all the time, Brian,
Speaker 5: is who's moving the ball forward? And what are we
Speaker 5: doing differently than other people? What's working and what's not working.
Speaker 5: So I'm really geared towards that. So on our show,
Speaker 5: we have the variety. We have people telling their encounters,
Speaker 5: we have researchers, come on, we have the people that
Speaker 5: have been doing this way longer than we have people
Speaker 5: like Codny's and it's been around the slope doing this.
Speaker 5: It's just a lot of fun. It's a lot of work.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of work. I'm constantly keeping busies trying
Speaker 5: to get the channel to grow. So we came together
Speaker 5: and we created Sasquatch Redacted podcast having a lot of
Speaker 5: fun with Sasquatch unredacted. A lot of fun. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: You guys go check it out. I will link to
Speaker 1: it in the show notes. You guys go show them
Speaker 1: some love, give them some likes, some follows. Johnny and Richard,
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming on.
Speaker 5: Man. I've had a blast talking to you guys. Great
Speaker 5: talking to you man, great singing you again at the conference.
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