WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:00.160 Hi. 2 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.080 I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologists, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part 3 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:08.880 of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. I've spent my entire 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.519 life exploring the planet's wildest, most remote places in search 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.280 of the extraordinary, and now I'm inviting you to join me. 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.960 Introducing the Explorer Society, a global community of curious minds, 7 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.760 truth seekers, and adventures where we dive into the unknown, 8 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.160 from elusive creatures like Bigfoot, to the frontiers of science, 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.679 nature and unexplained phenomena. 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My dog? 20 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:12.799 We're flying through the or over the tree. 21 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:13.959 I don't know how it did it? 22 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.239 Okay, damn it. 23 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.760 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 24 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.400 over the fence and they was dead. And once you 25 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.480 hit the grill, I didn't see any cars. All I 26 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:25.120 saw was my dog coming over the fence. 27 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:42.000 One. 28 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:47.159 What are you reporting? We got some wond or something crawling. 29 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:55.719 Around out here? Did you see what it was? 30 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:55.799 Was? 31 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.040 It was stand enough. I'm out here looking through the 32 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.480 window now and I don't see anything. 33 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.760 I don't want to goright fight. 34 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.639 Hello, get the fundy out here? 35 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.199 What quin on out There's thought of a bitch about 36 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.280 text nine? 37 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.400 I don't know. Easy ann ount there. Yeah, I'm walking right. Hey. 38 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.520 Welcome our guest to the show, first and foremost somewhere 39 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.879 in Georgia, Parts unknown, Johnny two Bears, Welcome to the show. 40 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:25.719 Good to see you again. 41 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.039 It is good to see you. We just saw each 42 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:29.000 other down in Florida. 43 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.520 Yeah it was. It was definitely exciting to hear that 44 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.840 you are now an official part of the Knower's Club. 45 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:36.080 Pretty cool, man. 46 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.439 I'm sure we'll eventually get into that at some point. 47 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.080 Speaking of which, I have been bending this gentleman's ear 48 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:42.960 about that down in Florida. 49 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.400 Richard, Welcome to the show man. Hey, how's it going, Brian? 50 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:49.000 I am hanging in like a hair in a biscuit. 51 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.840 It is always good to see you, my friends. 52 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:51.800 Let's get into this stuff. 53 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.759 You guys have been on independent of one another, and 54 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:56.879 we're going to get to explaining why you guys are 55 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.800 here together. Later on in the show, I was asking 56 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.919 you seeing what was new and what was going on, 57 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.439 and Johnny was the first person to speak, what's been 58 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.520 going on in your research area since we last had 59 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:07.120 you on the show. 60 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.120 I have to be honest with you. I don't remember 61 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.439 exactly where we left off, and I was one the 62 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.560 last time here about I think two weeks ago, I 63 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.159 put up my channel's The Sasquatch and Counter Brigade. I 64 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:25.639 started a docu series documenting the entire seven years of 65 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:29.759 my research on my property, not including anything else anywhere else. 66 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:35.159 It's called They Exist, Seven Years of Sasquatch in Georgia. 67 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.439 I'm about to be done with Part two. Got just 68 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:45.960 about every single important piece of evidence, audio, video, interactions 69 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.360 for the whole nine yards, pretty much everything basically over 70 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.560 the past two years. If I can go back the beginning, 71 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.919 my entire situation was just sasquatch one oh one. It 72 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:59.560 started out I didn't know anything about them at all. 73 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:05.120 My neighbors started getting harassed at night over a period 74 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:09.159 of probably almost a year, and then finally I'm the 75 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.479 one running around in woods trying to figure this thing out, 76 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.000 come to fight out. It's sasquad, So I get obsessed 77 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.639 with it. About a year after that, I have a sighting. 78 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:22.240 Then I just keep getting more and more eavy. But 79 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:27.560 in twenty three it all changed. It went from ninety 80 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.480 nine percent of the time I spent sitting on my 81 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.160 front deck waiting for something to happen. Then it would happen. 82 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.600 I would respond and hopefully get a vocal or a 83 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.319 break or whatever. And it went on like that for years. 84 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.759 Nine times out of ten when I went to the 85 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.879 woods behind my house, I'd hardly ever have anything happen. 86 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.079 Then I broke the cardinal rule that I held off 87 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.879 on doing for years, started gifting, started putting eggs out, 88 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:57.240 And I tell you right now, I wish I would 89 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:59.519 have done that from the beginning. The key point to 90 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.120 this is I don't even think they're eating the egg. 91 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:07.199 I think they're smart enough to recognize that I'm just 92 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.959 leaving things in their area. It basically started in twenty 93 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.959 twenty three. After leaving the egg sometimes vegetables got a garden, 94 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.399 I'd leave that out there. But there's a hill that 95 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.920 I consider their hill. I went out there one night 96 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.759 just checking on things that I left. I got done. 97 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:27.680 I walked down to the bottom of the hill. I 98 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.399 went across the creek. There was a either a wood 99 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.560 knock or a break coming from light behind where I 100 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:37.480 was just at where the eggs. So I walk up 101 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.439 the hill to this clearing and I do a wood knock, 102 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:43.560 which I never do. I don't ever do would because 103 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.959 I'm on the edge of a wildlife management There are 104 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.199 a neighborhood line the area like my house, so I've 105 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.600 never done would. I did a wood knock and there 106 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.639 was an object that was thrown. I did another wood 107 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.920 knock and there was another object for on again, which 108 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:03.959 I've never had that app where it seemed like I 109 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.160 did something and then they respond. I went out the 110 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:10.079 next night, either the next night or the night after that, 111 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.519 I went out there, started out with a wood knock again. 112 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.360 They came to the area. They did breaks through object 113 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:22.079 and it sounded like one got very close behind me, 114 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.199 ran up behind me. Now I'm out there with no flashlight. 115 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.319 I use a kim light going back and forth in 116 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.600 the equipment I used because at first I was scared 117 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:33.680 to take too much out there with me. I would 118 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.279 just use a GoPro my cell phone. Then eventually I 119 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.240 incorporated the thermal end of the story is about five 120 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.600 or six different evenings in fall of twenty twenty three, 121 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:50.319 from September October November. I would go down to that spot, 122 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.720 I would do would knock, and they would come in 123 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.000 between five to fifteen minutes later, and then do these interactions. 124 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.759 I've got some of the craziest breaks you've ever heard, 125 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.399 breaking trees, and then you hear the running off. I 126 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:07.240 don't even know how to describe going from five years 127 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:11.399 of just petty stuff, just getting lucky basically, and then 128 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.759 getting it to that point September October November. It ended 129 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.439 I didn't have anything happened throughout the winter, and had 130 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.439 a little bit happened during the spring, and then twenty 131 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.240 twenty four it started up again around the same exact time. 132 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.720 I think in two months I had seven different night 133 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.560 of activity like that. Eventually I worked in the night 134 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.480 vision camera. We got it set up behind me. The 135 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.439 whole first year is nothing but pretty much audio and 136 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.120 then a little bit of video where you can see 137 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.160 a glow stick and that's about all the light because 138 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.160 I don't use any flashlights. But I finally got to 139 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.000 the point where I could feel confident about because I 140 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.279 would bring that night vision camera out the wavelength of 141 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.920 the IR. You can see the light. You got a 142 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.160 big red light on the side of the camera, and 143 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.000 I would bring it out there and nothing would happen. 144 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.519 That would happen over and over again. There'd be nice 145 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.399 for a thermal out there. Something would start to happen, 146 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.480 and then I put the thermal up to my face 147 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.800 and then everything would just quit. So I just kept 148 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.439 going back and forth trying to figure out what equipment 149 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.600 I was allowed to have basically according to them. But 150 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.639 last year there's about I think five of those nights. 151 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.439 You've got the camera set up behind me. You can 152 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:31.519 see my reactions. I've got all the audio. God bro 153 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.879 that I wear something for my cell phone. One of 154 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.399 the last things that happened last year is on my 155 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:41.720 way out, I wasn't even going out actually going out 156 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.440 there to make a video channel. So I was in 157 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:48.320 a hurry and I heard what sounded like an armadillo 158 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:51.399 rooting around on the side of my yard near the 159 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:55.399 chicken pin. I'm going out there and I catch this 160 00:08:55.559 --> 00:09:01.200 part something running off and it looks like this gray 161 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.399 It's about the size of the body of a German 162 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.679 shepherd or a mid sized dog. Now I didn't get 163 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:11.080 a great look at it, but I definitely couldn't recognize 164 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.240 what I was seeing. That looked like a long oar 165 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.440 and then gray hair. I kept on going to my 166 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.879 sitting spot. What made me think that this was probably 167 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:24.120 a juvenile is after all those nights, I never felt 168 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.440 like there was any animosity behind the objects being thrown. 169 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.720 I had two different nights where they got very close. 170 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:35.120 One night they probably twenty five feet behind and did 171 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.279 an intentional break and then you can hear the running 172 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.840 off in the audio, But it just seemed like they 173 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.679 were playing. That night kind of seemed like I ticked 174 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.919 them off, because finally, after going out having all this activity, 175 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.919 I got three different objects that are one you can 176 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.559 actually see, but I've got two different objects that are 177 00:09:55.559 --> 00:10:00.320 thrown right over my head. One almost distant camera comes 178 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.720 right down by my head and then the third one 179 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.320 comes bouncing in. You actually see it on the camera 180 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.840 on the night vision camera. It bounces in, and I 181 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:12.159 was a little concerned that maybe I overstepped, that maybe 182 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.480 that was a juvenile and they didn't like that. Think 183 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.320 what happened if it was them. I went out my 184 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.639 front gate instead of my back gate. I didn't going 185 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:22.159 out the back gate. But I think what was going 186 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.639 on is that Armadilla was making so much noise and 187 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.639 I came up so quick that maybe they weren't expecting me. 188 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.480 But I don't think they liked it, because the throws 189 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.159 got closed. But this year, the dogs were going nuts. 190 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.639 And that's how it always starts. Like ninety nine percent 191 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.759 of the time, my dogs will start going nuts, and 192 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.639 then in the neighborhood the dogs start going nuts. It 193 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:47.440 may do that for a couple of days before I 194 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.240 actually have that. But I was having that happen and 195 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.279 I was shooting the docu series. I needed some b 196 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.600 footage of me driving up my driveway, so I left 197 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:01.360 my phone out there recording would record me pulling up. 198 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.919 The whole process took winning minute, and I brought it 199 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.720 back inside. I happened to think well, I left that 200 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.000 phone out there fifteen minutes by itself. I better check 201 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:16.360 it lo and behold, there's sounds of rock throwing. So 202 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.480 the second night, I set that night vision camera up 203 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.519 in the same spot and pretended to do the same thing. 204 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.720 I actually had to trash can from the end of 205 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:26.600 the road, which is like a quarter of a mile 206 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.399 a long, so I set it up in that same spot. 207 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.759 I went out, got my trash can, took my time, 208 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.399 came back, went inside, and there's two different times where 209 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:40.240 Gamera catches very obvious eyeshine, like across my driveway in 210 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:43.279 the woodline right in front of it, and then very 211 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.039 obvious rock throw it. And that's pretty much spend the 212 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.360 last thing that's happened around here to be able to 213 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.399 go down to that sitting spot. I was telling Brian earlier, 214 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.639 I would not be surprised if this went to the 215 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.120 point to where they actually try to touch me while 216 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.480 I'm sitting out there. My whole goal is to be 217 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.480 out there in the dark. It took me several nights 218 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.200 of this going out there to get the courage to 219 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.120 actually sit on my butt. I've experienced some scary things before, 220 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.799 but me trying to work up the courage to sit 221 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.080 on my butt when I know they're out there. It 222 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:20.240 took a lot. It took a whole lot. The only 223 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.720 thing that makes me think that this wasn't like a 224 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:27.799 territorial thing from the beginning is that first year in 225 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.759 twenty twenty three, I think I had two or three 226 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.919 nights of me going back there and having that act. 227 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.159 It was rolling around in my head. What if they're 228 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.639 being aggressive, then they're trying to run me out? Didn't 229 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:41.440 feel like it. I'm a human being. Maybe I'm just 230 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.240 putting my own spin on. I think I'm making progress 231 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.799 with these creatures and we getting a little bit of trust. Meanwhile, 232 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.039 they won't be gone for all I know. I didn't 233 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.600 go out there for about a week, and then my 234 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.039 father came into town and we're sitting on my front foor. 235 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.360 There was a throw that landed and hit and I 236 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.080 hadn't talked that much to my father. I had mentioned 237 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.200 what I was doing with bigfoot and everything. I looked 238 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:06.879 at it and I said, you're about to find out 239 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.679 what are you talking about? So I think that was them, 240 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.360 And here's them with the bigfoot I've been telling you about. 241 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:15.960 And he said as long as they don't hit my truck. 242 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.639 He just got up and went inside. Well, I just 243 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:21.440 walked straight over to the side of my yard. I 244 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:24.919 think I threw two rocks, and then they threw a rock, 245 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.240 and then I threw another object, and they did a 246 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.000 very loud, obvious break. So it was kind of like 247 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:33.879 I hadn't been down there in a while. It's almost 248 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.679 like they came and got because that was pretty much 249 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:40.519 where in my head I was getting permission. I guess 250 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:42.679 you could say that's pretty much it. That's where we're 251 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:43.879 at with everything. 252 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.720 So many questions. I'm going to work backwards. Let's go 253 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.360 back to the armadillo thing. As you're talking, I'm imagining 254 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.159 what could possibly be the scenario going on there. Have 255 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.120 you considered it all that maybe they started throwing rocks 256 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.639 at you, because there's a possibility they were about to 257 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.879 eat this armadillo and you were messing with the situation. 258 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.960 Have you given that any thought as to what might 259 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.720 have been going on with that scenario. 260 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:12.639 It was still alive, obviously, because it was rooting around. 261 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.399 I've seen one of these things run across the field 262 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.799 on all fours. If they wanted that armadillo it would 263 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.120 take half a second and then they'd be gold. I 264 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.960 honestly don't think there's anything that I could do that 265 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.600 would stop them from doing anything they wanted to at 266 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.919 any given moment, except for maybe they just don't want 267 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.639 to be directly seen. Your guess is as good as mine. 268 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:36.960 Farewell could have been that situation. There's armadillos out here, 269 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.039 although they could be eating them. 270 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.279 I want to go back to the gifting thing because 271 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.200 you said something very interesting in the beginning of that 272 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.840 whole exchange, was you wish you had been gifting way 273 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:53.480 before you started gifting, given your experiences with them up 274 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.879 until the point where you started leaving eggs, and then 275 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.600 what you've experienced after that, do you think that the 276 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:02.320 gifting was the point of no return. Let's say that 277 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.840 made a difference in the interactions with them one way 278 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.480 or the other, and stay tuned for more sasquatch you 279 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.399 o't to see. We'll be right back after. 280 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:12.559 These messages. 281 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.000 Today. I want to tell you about a journey that 282 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.279 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 283 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.200 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 284 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:23.720 wild men while spending time with my friends and family, 285 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.840 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 286 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.080 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 287 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:32.559 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 288 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.039 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. 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I'm standing 310 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:45.919 there on my driveway. You hear it, and then it 311 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.000 ends up. It not only growls, but when my dog 312 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:53.200 is over there responding and barking, it actually stomps and 313 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.080 has at it. It's a wild recording, and it's as 314 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.759 clear as you get. There's sometimes there can be audio. 315 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.600 This misidentification, this is not that. There's just no way 316 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.519 around them. Then, after about two and a half years, 317 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:08.519 I started getting the interactions that felt like they were juveniles. 318 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:10.640 Then I had a situation where I had what I 319 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.720 think is too sounded like juveniles. I didn't see them, 320 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.720 but they mimicked an owl, and then when I did 321 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.000 it back them, they were like two excited kids did 322 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.640 it right back to me, and it was like the 323 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.400 crappiest imitation of an owl ever, Like they were imitating 324 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.200 my crappy imitation of their imitation is what it sounded like. 325 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.480 Then we found juvenile track. I got a thermal that's 326 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.359 not good enough to really tell back. Then I've got 327 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.359 a good image of what I think is a juvenile now. 328 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:44.119 I think every bit of this, starting from when they 329 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:52.000 were basically harassing my neighbors to the semi territorial way 330 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.480 they were interacting with me, I think that every bit 331 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.400 it was a tat. For whatever reason, I think they 332 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.519 wanted to stay in and around this area. Sounds like 333 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:05.079 something humans would do. You would test the people in 334 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.480 your area to figure out what kind of reactions you 335 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:09.160 were going to get. That's what it felt like to me. 336 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:13.640 And then eventually that changed, but seemed more like curiosity. 337 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:17.559 And then it might just be a quistence. Maybe the 338 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:19.680 gifting had nothing to do with it, but for whatever 339 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.240 reason they decided they wanted to start interacting when I 340 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.319 was back there, I'll never know. It's all ninety aur 341 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:28.720 percent of this is guess work. I know a lot 342 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:31.519 of people think that these creatures are danger. They very 343 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:34.559 well could. They could be snatching a thousand people a year. 344 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.599 But all I know to do is go based upon 345 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.680 what I know, what I've experienced here on my own problem. 346 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.720 But I don't live way out hot water, so I 347 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.720 would imagine the temperament and what they can get away 348 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.640 with is probably different there as opposed to hear the 349 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:54.000 whole gifting thing the way I looked at that, which, 350 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:56.759 like I said, you hear all the time, don't get 351 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:01.440 stop gifting. They'll get mad, be belligerent, get violent. And 352 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.279 I thought that was a good rule of thumb for 353 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.480 a while, and then I happen to think, wait a second. 354 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.839 The reason why we haven't proved these things exist yet 355 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.920 because we can't tell where they're going to be, when 356 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:15.079 they're going to be there, and what they're going to do. 357 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.400 But you're telling me that I could do this particular 358 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.119 thing and know pretty much all of them and be 359 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.839 ready because if they're going to be violent or belligerent, 360 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.720 that's something I'm going to be able to record. But 361 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:34.039 that's not getting recorded. That's not what happened. I started 362 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.680 doing it, and like I said, I don't even know 363 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:37.039 that they're actually taking. 364 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.119 It's interesting to me that the gifting thing has been 365 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.240 something that I have never put a ton of stock in, 366 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:47.119 even though the very first things that started happening on 367 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:51.279 our land here in North Carolina was vocalizations. Then I 368 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:55.079 find this weird turtleshell stuck into the side of a 369 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.720 stump on a freaking track that I walk the dogs on, 370 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.079 so it almost felt like that's how they were trying 371 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.200 to communicate with me. I still haven't put a ton 372 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.160 of stock in it. We were using sun butter, like 373 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.279 ground up sunflower seeds. I would put some jars of 374 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.279 that out, and they've taken several of them out of 375 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.440 a stump that they would have to have had, in 376 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.920 my opinion, a hand very similar to ours. It was 377 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:26.960 a hollowed out sixteen eighteen inch round cedar stump. The 378 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.119 middle is ritted out, and I would stick the jars 379 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:30.880 down in there. So I don't even know how a 380 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.400 raccoon or anything else would be able to take it. 381 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.480 But I've never really put a ton of stock in 382 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:39.359 the gifting. But I have talked to so many people 383 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.480 that have had success. I'm using my air quotes for 384 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:47.160 everybody who can't see success with gifting. I have evolved 385 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:49.559 just over the last couple of years to think there's 386 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:51.759 a there. Richard, let me pull you into this conversation. 387 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.920 You do a ton of boots on the ground research 388 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.839 down there in Florida. Are you using or have you 389 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.480 tried to do gifting? Are you aware of anybody down 390 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:04.000 in Florida that's doing gifting and had any kind of 391 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:05.240 measure of success at it. 392 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:09.559 I personally do not gift because I don't want to 393 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:12.480 get as personal one up close to them like Johnny does. 394 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:14.960 I'm the guy who wants to take a photo or 395 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.640 a video from a safe distance. I did one time. 396 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:20.799 I guess it's been over a year and a half, 397 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.240 maybe two years ago. That was the golf ball incident 398 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:25.839 where I left an apple. When I was leaving, I 399 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:28.240 was actually going on and I left an apple. I 400 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:31.079 didn't come back for a week or two. Of course 401 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:33.000