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<v Speaker 1>So picture a brutal summer storm over Toronto.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, okay, setting the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's August two thousand and five. The sky is

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<v Speaker 1>practically black, just ripped open by constant lightning, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting in the back of Air France flight three

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<v Speaker 1>five eight, which is this massive airbus A three forty,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is violently bucking through the clouds, terrifying truly.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel the wheels hit the tarmac, but like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like a landing. It feels like the plane

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<v Speaker 1>is skidding at over one hundred miles an hour. Oh geez, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting what feels like three foot deep potholes. The cabin

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<v Speaker 1>is shaking violently, luggage is just flying out of the

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<v Speaker 1>overhead bins.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's literally everyone's worst nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>One flying exactly. Yeah, and suddenly a father sitting a

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<v Speaker 1>few rows ahead of you, he looks out the window

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<v Speaker 1>and in the reflection of the glass, he sees his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter's face illuminated by this terrifying, bright orange aura of

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<v Speaker 1>fire from outside the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's just a moment of pure visceral terror. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of scenario that plays out in your deepest

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<v Speaker 2>anxieties you know, like every time you feel an airplane

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<v Speaker 2>drop through heavy turbulence or hear the landing gear clunk

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<v Speaker 2>into place during a storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, totally, Well, welcome to our deep dive today. We

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<v Speaker 1>aren't just recounting terrifying moments, though. Our mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>really unpack the anatomy of three harrowing aviation disasters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're getting into the weeds on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We are. We're going to look closely at the raw data,

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<v Speaker 1>the physical mechanics, and really that razor thin margin between

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<v Speaker 1>a miraculous survival and an absolute tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is such a fascinating margin to study because when.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually dig into these investigations, you realize how many

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<v Speaker 1>interconnected systems keep you safe in the air, oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and how incredibly small the cascade of failures needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be to bring a commercial jet back down to Earth

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<v Speaker 1>in the worst way possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that cascade. That's the fundamental truth of aviation accident investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>An airplane almost never falls out of the sky because

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<v Speaker 2>of like a single broken part or one bad decision.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always a sequence, a chain reaction, exactly, a

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<v Speaker 2>chain reaction where the links, you know, mechanical glitches weather

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<v Speaker 2>anomalies and human psychology. They just tragically align.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's unpack this starting with the mechanics of that

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying scene in Toronto Air France flight three five eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Captain Alan Rose and his co pilot

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick no and they are fighting a storm that has

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<v Speaker 1>already triggered a red alert at Pierson Airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I meaning ground crews aren't even allowed outside because

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<v Speaker 2>the lightning is so intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So they've been in a holding pattern, fuels getting tight,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're finally cleared to land on runway two four left.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you see the choice of runway provides the

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<v Speaker 2>first link in.

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<v Speaker 3>This chain because it's shorter, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Runway two four left happens to be the shortest runway

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<v Speaker 2>at Pierson Airport. It's almost six hundred and fifty meters

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<v Speaker 2>shorter than some of the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. So you have a massive heavy passenger jet

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<v Speaker 2>landing in blinding rain on the shortest available strip, and

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<v Speaker 2>as they are descending, the wind shifts drastically.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to make things worse, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They are suddenly hit by a massive thirty three knot

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<v Speaker 2>crosswind driven by a localized squall line right over the

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<v Speaker 2>threshold of the runway.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty three knots pushing against the side of a massive

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<v Speaker 1>metal tube. I mean, how do you even physically get

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels on the ground in a straight line when

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<v Speaker 1>the wind is trying to blow you completely off the runway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, pilots use a technique called crabbing. Crabbing like the animal, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally point the nose of the plane into the wind,

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<v Speaker 2>so the aircraft is flying somewhat sideways relative to the runway.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds unnatural, it looks crazy if you watch it

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<v Speaker 2>from the ground. But then right before the wheels touch,

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<v Speaker 2>you use the rudder to kick the nose straight while

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<v Speaker 2>dipping the wing into the wind so you don't drift. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it requires intense physical effort. The copilot was fighting the

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<v Speaker 2>yoke so hard just to keep the plane lined up

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<v Speaker 2>that they came over the start of the runway twice

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<v Speaker 2>as high as they should have been. O.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, and they floated. So by the time the

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<v Speaker 1>tires finally slammed into the wet tarmac, they were nearly

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<v Speaker 1>halfway down that already short runway.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but Here's where it gets really interesting. They are

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<v Speaker 2>halfway down the runway going way too fast, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't immediately break right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the crucial part.

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<v Speaker 2>For a full seventeen seconds after touchdown, the plane's reverse

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<v Speaker 2>thrusters are not activated.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is an eternity in an airplane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean imagine driving your car down a highway

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<v Speaker 2>and pouring rain. You see dead stop traffic ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You take your foot off a gaz but you wait

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<v Speaker 2>a full Mississippi count of seventeen before you even touch

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<v Speaker 2>the brakes.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd plow right into them.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly why the delay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it comes down to task saturation and cockpit ergonomics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To understand this, you kind of have to look at

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<v Speaker 1>how reverse thrusters physically work. Yeah, they don't actually run

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<v Speaker 1>the engines backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I was assuming they just spun the other way. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A lot of people think that when activated, pneumatic

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<v Speaker 1>actuators open up heavy metal doors often called clamshells or

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<v Speaker 1>cascades inside the engine.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowling, Oh, I see, and these doors physically block the

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<v Speaker 2>rearward flow of the jet exhaust and redirect it forcefully forward,

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<v Speaker 2>acting as a massive aerodynamic brake. That makes sense, But

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<v Speaker 2>to deploy them, a pilot has to physically pull up

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<v Speaker 2>on specific levers mounted on the main throttles, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The copilot couldn't reach them.

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<v Speaker 2>The copilot was struggling so intensely with the lateral movement

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<v Speaker 2>of the plane in that severe crosswind that his hand

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<v Speaker 2>was basically clamped in a death grip over the throttle base.

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<v Speaker 1>Just try and keep the plane straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and the captain, seeing the end of the runway

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<v Speaker 2>approaching rapidly, simply couldn't get his hand in there to

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<v Speaker 2>pull the reverse thrust levers.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time they wrestled control and hit maximum reverse thrust,

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<v Speaker 2>the physics of their momentum made it impossible to.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop, so they just ran out a runway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the plane overshoots the runway at high speed and

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<v Speaker 2>plunges straight into a fifty foot instantly catching fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where the clock starts ticking for the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ninety seven passengers on board. We always

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<v Speaker 1>hear flight attendants say to leave your baggage behind in

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency, and you know, people always think, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly grab my backpack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. People always assume they have time, right, But there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a student on board Eddie Hoe who almost died

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<v Speaker 1>because he hesitated trying to grab his laptop and his tuition money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a deeply ingrained human instinct to gather

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<v Speaker 2>your resources when threatened. But in an aviation fire, the

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<v Speaker 2>environment becomes completely lethal in about two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Two minutes, that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying. It's a phenomenon called flashover. What's basically the

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<v Speaker 2>intense heat causes the foams, plastics, and synthetic fabrics inside

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin to off gas highly toxic smoke. Breathing it

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<v Speaker 2>in will incapacitate and kill you long before the actual

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<v Speaker 2>flames reach your seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is the sole reason aviation regulations demand that

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<v Speaker 2>an entire aircraft, even with half its doors blocked, must

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be fully evacuated in ninety seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety seconds to get almost three hundred panic people down

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<v Speaker 1>the slides.

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<v Speaker 3>That is wild, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And the flight attendants were fighting jam doors and steep

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<v Speaker 1>angles because the plane was broken in the ravine, but

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<v Speaker 1>miraculously every single person survived.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's known as the ninety second miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at this systemic side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>it really shouldn't have required miracle. I mean, that fifty

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<v Speaker 1>foot ravine wasn't a surprise to anyone at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>No, far from it. That ravine at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>runway two four left was a documented historical hazard.

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<v Speaker 1>It had caused problems before.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly decades earlier in nineteen seventy eight, and Air Canada

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<v Speaker 2>DC nine rejected a takeoff and slid off the end

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<v Speaker 2>of that runway into that exact same ravine. You're kidding, No,

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<v Speaker 2>And a coroner's inquest following that crash explicitly recommended filling

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<v Speaker 2>the ravine in to create a safety overrun area.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never done.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Even if you don't move millions of tons of

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<v Speaker 1>dirt to fill a ravine, there's technology that could have

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<v Speaker 1>stopped this massive air bus safely.

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<v Speaker 3>Right there is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an engineering solution called EMASS.

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<v Speaker 1>EMASS.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Engineered material arresting systems.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Instead of standard pavement at the end of a runway,

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<v Speaker 2>you install a massive bed of highly engineered cellular cement blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like regular tarmac, but it's designed to instantly

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<v Speaker 2>crush under the weight of an aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of like driving a heavy truck into a

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<v Speaker 1>runaway ramp filled with deep.

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<v Speaker 2>Gravel, precisely the same concept. As the plane's tires crush

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<v Speaker 2>the cellular cement, it absorbs the kinetic energy and physically

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<v Speaker 2>drags the massive aircraft to a stop, usually without even

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<v Speaker 2>damaging the landing gear. It's brilliant, it is, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was widely used in the US at the time, but

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been installed in Toronto. So the absence of that

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<v Speaker 2>passive safety system, combined with a short runway, an aerodynamic struggle,

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<v Speaker 2>and a seventeen second braking delay created the perfect storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So Air France showed us what happens when environmental

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<v Speaker 1>factors and systemic hazards overwhelm a crew. But our next

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<v Speaker 1>story shifts gears completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this one is very different.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens with the environment is absolutely perfect, placid skies,

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<v Speaker 1>no storms, but the airplane itself simply dies on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. That brings us to July nineteen eighty three and

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<v Speaker 2>the bizarre story of Air Canada Flight one forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine you're a passenger cruising comfortably at twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred feet over Canada. Suddenly in the cockpit. An

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<v Speaker 1>alarm sounds, never a good sign, never, then another, and

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<v Speaker 1>then comes the chilling moment. All the high tech digital

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<v Speaker 1>screens simply go black. The engined school down to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no thrust, just silence, just the eerie sound

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<v Speaker 1>of the wind rushing past the fuselage. Captain Bob Pearson

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<v Speaker 1>and First Officer Maurice Quintal have just lost both engines

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<v Speaker 1>on a state of the art Boeing seven sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable Houtel gets.

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<v Speaker 1>On the radio to air traffic Control and says, holy cow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to a dead man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, turning a ninety five ton commercial airliner

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<v Speaker 2>into a very heavy unero dynamic glifeh is a pilot's

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<v Speaker 2>worst nightmare, oh for sure. But what makes this case

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<v Speaker 2>so fascinating is that it wasn't a mechanical failure that

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<v Speaker 2>brought the engines down. It was a failure of mathematics, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because nineteen eighty three was an era of transition. Canada

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<v Speaker 2>Its fuel exactly, and the plan's digital fuel gauges were

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<v Speaker 2>the fuel using something called dripsticks. Dripsticks, Yeah, they are

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<v Speaker 1>But an airplane engine doesn't care about the volume of

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<v Speaker 2>It cares about the mass, and that is the crucial

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, mass time right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the flight required twenty two thy three hundred kilograms

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<v Speaker 2>of fuel, But when the ground technicians and the pilots

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, so they pumped in twenty two three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fuel they needed to reach their destination exactly. And because

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<v Speaker 1>been eliminated. In these newer two pilot cockpits, the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of responsibility were blurred.

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<v Speaker 3>No one caught the error exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So there they are at twenty six five hundred feet

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<v Speaker 2>engines dead. And when the engines die, you don't just

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<v Speaker 2>generators that provide electrical power to the screens, and you

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<v Speaker 2>Without hydraulic pressure, you physically cannot move the massive ailerons

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, if they lose engines, electrical and hydraulics, how

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<v Speaker 1>are they even moving the wing flaps to steer a

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<v Speaker 2>Brick that comes down to an obscure genius backup system

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<v Speaker 1>The rat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's a small propeller about the size of a

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling fan tucked away in the belly.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the plane well wind turbine.

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<v Speaker 2>Holistically, when the systems die, a spring loaded door opens

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<v Speaker 2>and this propeller drops down into the four hundred mile

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<v Speaker 2>per hour slipstream beneath the aircraft. Oh wow, the wind

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<v Speaker 2>physically spins the propeller, which dries a small hydraulic pump.

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<v Speaker 2>It provides just enough pressure to let the pilots rustle

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<v Speaker 2>the flight surfaces. It is raw kinetic energy conversion keeping

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<v Speaker 2>the plane flyable.

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<v Speaker 1>That is incredible engineering. And thank goodness for Captain Bob Pearson,

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<v Speaker 1>because Pearson wasn't just a commercial pilot, he was an

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the single most important coincidence in this entire story.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. So they are sinking, dropping about two thousand feet

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. They quickly realize they aren't going to make.

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<v Speaker 3>It to Winnipeg, not even close, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Quintle remembers an old Air Force base where you

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<v Speaker 1>used to train in Gimli, Manitoba. So they aim for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But as they get close, they face a massive physics problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They're way too high and coming in way too fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and normally you deploy flaps to create drag or

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that right without engines. Circling is a death sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>They would lose too much lift and crash short of

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<v Speaker 2>the runway, and the RT doesn't provide enough hydraulic pressure

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<v Speaker 2>to deploy the heavy flaps.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have exactly one shot at this runway, just one.

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<v Speaker 1>So Pearson does something absolutely wild. He executes a maneuver

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<v Speaker 1>called a forward slip. You take a ninety five ton

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<v Speaker 1>commercial airliner and you intentionally cross the controls, which is wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how does crossing the controls actually work in a jet

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<v Speaker 1>that size?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is a violent, unnatural maneuver for commercial jet.

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<v Speaker 2>Pearson turned the control yokes sharply to the right, which

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<v Speaker 2>raises the right wing and tells the plane to turn right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>At the exact same time, he stamped his left foot

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<v Speaker 2>all the way down on the rudder pedal, forcing the

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<v Speaker 2>tail to swing left.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds completely counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. By doing this, he deliberately threw the plane

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<v Speaker 2>out of its aerodynamic alignment. He forced the massive flat

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<v Speaker 2>side of the fuselage to fly somewhat sideways into the

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred mile per hour wind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like taking a massive eighteen wheeler semi truck and

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally drifting its sideways down a steep, icy hill. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like using the friction of the tire, sliding sideways to

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<v Speaker 1>control your speed without picking up acceleration exactly, And the

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<v Speaker 1>passengers are looking out the windows and the plane is

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<v Speaker 1>banked so sharply they're staring straight down at a golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>He essentially used the entire broad side of the airplane

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<v Speaker 2>as a giant air brake, and it works. He slips

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<v Speaker 2>the plane right down to the threshold of the runway

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<v Speaker 2>and snaps it straight at the last possible second.

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<v Speaker 1>But the climax here is pure cinematic terror. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the the commission bas At Gimli isn't abandoned anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been converted into a drag racing strip, and on

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<v Speaker 1>this particular Saturday, it's hosting a massive family camping weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the odds, right, people are having barbecues right

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<v Speaker 1>next to the tarmac and right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>And remember, without engines, a gliding seven sixty seven is

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<v Speaker 2>completely silent from the ground. There is no jet roar

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<v Speaker 2>to warn the campers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a silent two hundred mile per hour metal beast

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<v Speaker 1>dropping out of the sky behind them. The plane hits

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<v Speaker 1>the concrete because they had no hydraulics to properly lost

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<v Speaker 1>the nose gear. It collapses instantly with it sound like

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<v Speaker 1>a shotgun blast. The nose of the plane grinds into

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<v Speaker 1>the concrete, shooting a massive rooster tail of sparks and smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Pearson is standing on the brakes, blowing out the

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<v Speaker 1>main tires, desperately trying to steer this sliding behemoth away

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<v Speaker 1>from the campers, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Fighting the momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the boys on the bikes are pedaling for their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>The plane finally plows into a steel guard rail that

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<v Speaker 1>had been installed down the center of the drags strip,

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<v Speaker 1>and the friction drags it to a halt. Amazing, the

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<v Speaker 1>nose stops just feet away from the campers. Everyone survives

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<v Speaker 1>the Gimli Glider.

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<v Speaker 2>It remains a masterclass in airmanship, human skill and instinct

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<v Speaker 2>overcoming a catastrophic systemic math error.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings us to a darker question. Gimli proves that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes human skill can overcome a mechanical or systemic deficit.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens when the margin for air is absolutely zero.

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<v Speaker 2>When everything is stacked against you?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly when the systemic negligence is so deep and the

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<v Speaker 1>technology is so archaic that no amount of piloting skill

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<v Speaker 1>can outfly the.

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<v Speaker 2>Danger that takes us to April nineteen ninety six and

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<v Speaker 2>the tragedy of US Air Force Flight IFO twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a high profile flight. It's carrying thirty five people,

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<v Speaker 1>including the US Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, along with a

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<v Speaker 1>delegation of diplomats and business leaders. They are flying a

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<v Speaker 1>specially designed Air Force CT forty three, which is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a modified Boeing seven thirty seven, into to Dubrovnik, Croatia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a trade mission to help rebuild the region after

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<v Speaker 1>a brutal civil war, and they're flying directly into a

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<v Speaker 1>massive spring thunderstorm.

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<v Speaker 2>The conditions in Dubrovnik were incredibly challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>The airport had been utterly devastated during the war. It

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<v Speaker 2>was completely stripped of modern navigation aids. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>approach radar, meaning air traffic control couldn't see the planes

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<v Speaker 2>coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There was no instrument landing system or ILS, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the standard technology that projects a precise electronic glide

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<v Speaker 2>slope to guide a plane safely down to the runway.

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<v Speaker 2>Center line.

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<v Speaker 1>So how were they navigating? I read they were using

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<v Speaker 1>something called NDB's non directional beacons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and NDB is basically ancient technology in the aviation world.

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<v Speaker 2>It essentially an am radio tower sending out a continuous ping,

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<v Speaker 2>just a ping, just a ping. Inside the plane, you

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<v Speaker 2>have an instrument with a single needle that points towards

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<v Speaker 2>the source of that radio signal. That's It doesn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how high you are, It doesn't give you a

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<v Speaker 2>precise downward path. It just says the radio tower is

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<v Speaker 2>generally in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, if this is a.

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<v Speaker 1>VIP military flight carrying a US cabinet member, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>the commanders just ground the plane until the weather cleared.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, or at least wait until the airport installed modern radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Why push a multimillion dollar jet through a thunderstorm using

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the investigation revealed an intense culture of pressure. The

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<v Speaker 2>military was operating under a mantra of you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>more with less.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>There was massive political and scheduling pressure to complete these

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<v Speaker 2>VIP missions, and military commanders were routinely issuing waivers that

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<v Speaker 2>bypassed the rigorous safety checks required of standard.

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<v Speaker 3>Commercial flights, So they're cutting corners.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, Yeah, they prioritized the mission schedule over safety margins.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, this is what the investigators found.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a systemic issue across the board at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that lack of margins proved fatal when the workload

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<v Speaker 1>hit the crew. To properly fly the approach into Dubrovnik

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<v Speaker 1>using those beacons, the plan should have had two automatic

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<v Speaker 1>direction finder receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, so the pilots could track two different beacons

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<v Speaker 2>simultaneously to cross reference their position.

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<v Speaker 1>But Flight IFO twenty one only had one receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pilot flying blind through a thunderstorm fighting turbulence

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<v Speaker 1>has to constantly tune the radio back and forth between

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<v Speaker 1>two different frequencies to try and triangulate where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>It creates immense task saturation. You're just overloaded, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>The investigation suggests that the crew, overwhelmed by the clumsy

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<v Speaker 2>beacon system just gave up on it and switched over

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<v Speaker 2>to their inertial navigation system ORS to guide them in.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly is an I ins I know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a radio signal.

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<v Speaker 2>No, an inertial navigation system relies entirely on internal gyroscopes

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<v Speaker 2>and accelerometers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's all internal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right before the plane takes off, you tell the computer

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<v Speaker 2>its exact GPS coordinates on the tarmac. From that moment on,

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<v Speaker 2>the gyroscopes measure every single turn, acceleration, and bank. The

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<v Speaker 2>plane mane constantly calculating its new position based purely on

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<v Speaker 2>its own movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like walking through a dense forest with a

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<v Speaker 1>compass that's off by a millimeter. After ten steps, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even notice you're off the path, but after ten

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<v Speaker 1>miles you're in a completely different county.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the perfect analogy. It's a phenomenon called drift.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the system is entirely self contained, tiny mechanical imperfections

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<v Speaker 2>in the gyroscopes cause the calculated position to drift from

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<v Speaker 2>the actual position over time. Okay, by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>were on their final approach into Dubrovnik, navigating blindly through

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<v Speaker 2>the clouds, their i ins had imperceptibly drifted off course

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<v Speaker 2>by about seven degrees seven degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are flying at hundreds of miles an hour

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<v Speaker 1>in a mountainous region, seven degrees means the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>a runway threshold and a solid rock wall exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>to make this cascade of errors even worse, there was

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<v Speaker 1>the fatal chart.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the approach chart the military crew was using every

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<v Speaker 2>instrument approach has a minimum descent altitude, the absolute low

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<v Speaker 2>twist height a plane is allowed to descend into the clouds. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if the pilots hit that altitude and cannot visually see

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<v Speaker 2>the runway lights, they must immediately abort the landing and

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<v Speaker 2>pull up.

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<v Speaker 1>But the military hadn't vetted the chart they were using.

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<v Speaker 1>For Dubrovnik, the safe standard for that specific mountainous terrain

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<v Speaker 1>should have been a minimum descent altitude of twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet. Yeah, the chart the Air Force crew was

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<v Speaker 1>given authorized them to descend to twenty one hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a huge discrepancy. So consider the chain reaction here.

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<v Speaker 2>You have an exhausted crew legally authorized by an unapproved

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<v Speaker 2>chart to fly seven hundred feet lower than was actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe, relying on a drifting internal navigation.

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<v Speaker 2>System, right descending through a blinding storm looking for an

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<v Speaker 2>airport they can't see. They flew perfectly straight, perfectly leveled

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<v Speaker 2>directly into the side of Saint John's Mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>The impact was devastating, tragically, Technical Sergeant Shelly Kelly actually

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<v Speaker 1>survived the initial crash in the tail section.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is just heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, but because the airport had no radar, air

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<v Speaker 1>traffic control had no idea where the plane was us

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<v Speaker 1>It took rescuers hours to hike through driving rain and

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<v Speaker 1>active mind fields left over from the war to reach

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<v Speaker 1>the wreckage. She died in the ambulance on the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital. All thirty five people perished.

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<v Speaker 2>The fallout was seismic. Commanders were relieved of duty. The

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force was forced to fundamentally change its culture, installing

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<v Speaker 2>modern flight data recorders on all military transports and strictly

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<v Speaker 2>adhering to Department of Defense commercial standards for all airport approaches.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a stark reminder that gravity and terrain do not

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<v Speaker 1>respect rank, political urgency, or budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Constraints, Absolutely not. They are unforgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this all mean? When we look at

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<v Speaker 1>Air France three point fifty eight, the Gimli Glider and

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force IF twenty one, we see that aviation safety

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just a pilot's hands on the yoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it's so much more than that is a tapestry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the physical engineering of the runway, like those crushed

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<v Speaker 1>concrete emas systems. It's the meticulous specific gravity mathematics of

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<v Speaker 1>a ground crew. It's the raw instinctual skill of cross

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<v Speaker 1>controlling a heavy jet. And it's the unyielding rigidity of

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<v Speaker 1>safety regulations. If you pull on just one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of those threads, a delayed throttle, a metric conversion, or

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<v Speaker 1>a single missing radio receiver, the whole tapestry unravels and.

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<v Speaker 2>For you listening. The next time you board a commercial

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<v Speaker 2>flight and you hear the flight attendants going through the

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<v Speaker 2>safety briefing, pointing out the exits, telling you to leave

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<v Speaker 2>your bags behind, don't tune it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the toxic smoke and the ninety second evacuation of

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<v Speaker 2>Air France three point fifty eight. Those seemingly tedious rules

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<v Speaker 2>are not arbitrary. They are written in the hard lessons

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<v Speaker 2>and the physical realities of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the margin between life and death. And it

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<v Speaker 1>leaves me with one final provocative thought. We saw Captain

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<v Speaker 1>Pearson save his plane because he had the raw, manual

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<v Speaker 1>flying skills of a glider pilot. Oh absolutely, he knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to physically feel the aerodynamics of the aircraft when

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<v Speaker 1>all the computers died. But modern airplanes are becoming increasingly automated.

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<v Speaker 1>They practically fly themselves from takeoff to touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>They really did.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we slowly breeding out that instinctual glider pilot skill

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<v Speaker 1>when the screens go black tomorrow, Will the computer generation

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<v Speaker 1>of pilots know how to manually sideslip a ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>ton jetliner to safety?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a scary thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Or are we relying too much on the machines to

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<v Speaker 1>never fail, because, as we've seen, the machines do fail,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they do, you don't want to be staring

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<v Speaker 1>out the window looking at an orange or a fire
