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The 18 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:41.519 original air date July the twenty seventh, nineteen fifty The 19 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:49.640 title The Big Gent Part two. 20 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.879 The story you're about to hear is true only the 21 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.200 names have been changed to protect the innocent. 22 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:05.400 Dragnet. 23 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:13.400 You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned to Robbery Detail. Three 24 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.319 persons are shot down in a twelve thousand dollars hold up. 25 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.960 One of the bandits is apprehended, convicted, and sent to 26 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:22.960 prison for life. The other one is still at large. 27 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:25.960 Your job, get. 28 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:39.680 Him Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For 29 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:42.439 the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles 30 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.360 Police Department, you will travel step by step on the 31 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.639 side of the law through an actual case from official 32 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:49.520 police files. 33 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.800 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 34 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:54.639 the story of your police force in action. 35 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.919 Whose Tuesday, June sixth, it was cloudy in Los Angeles. 36 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:04.639 We're working a day watch out of Robbery Detail. My 37 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.240 partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain ed Walker. My 38 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.400 name is Friday. I was on the way back from Communications. 39 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.520 It was eleven thirty five am when I got to 40 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:18.199 Room twenty seven to eight Robbery Divisions. Oh all right, 41 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.960 Oh hi Dave. Message in the book for you. 42 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:22.360 They men a couple of minutes ago. 43 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:23.840 Oh thank you, woman's boy. 44 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:24.680 How did you call? 45 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:26.439 Yeah, thank you Dave. 46 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:41.719 I'll get it now, George State Juvenile Room at. 47 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.240 Bentley Policewoman River there, please. 48 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:50.199 Since a minute, River, hold on, please miss River. 49 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:52.520 Dorothy Joe Friday. 50 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:54.240 Oh yes, Joe, you got the message. 51 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:55.879 Yeah, you're worrying about your purse. 52 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:57.479 I can't find it anywhere. Did I leave it in 53 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:58.319 your car last night? 54 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.560 Found it this morning. I can leave it at the 55 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:01.919 desk here if you like, you can pick it up 56 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.080 some time today. Thanks a lot, Sure, Dorothy, I. 57 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.479 Had a wonderful time last night, Joe. I certainly enjoyed it. 58 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:12.840 Yeah, pretty good movie, huh they Dorothy? 59 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:13.560 Uh. 60 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.639 Mother and I were talking this morning at breakfast, like 61 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.519 him over the house sometime for dinner. Mind'd like to 62 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.000 meet you. 63 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.480 Oh sure, that'd be fine. I'd like to meet your mother. 64 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.920 How about a weekness coming Monday? That's my day off? 65 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:26.480 Is that okay? 66 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.199 All right? Weekness Monday? 67 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.680 The weather's good. Well, maybe we can have a barbecue 68 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:31.240 out in the back. 69 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:32.519 It sounds wonderful. 70 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:41.800 Okay, see you later then, bye, Joe. Hi, how to 71 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:42.240 work out? 72 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:42.439 Man? 73 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.279 It didn't another force alarm? 74 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.439 Sure there's a scorch. You're up today? 75 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:51.680 Four months working that one solid lead where are we going? 76 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:53.920 I haven't got the answer. I've run down so many 77 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.759 bum tips. I don't think I know the real thing 78 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:56.839 would hit me in the face. 79 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.519 Joe Wire and. 80 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.160 Mark Gear from San Diego just got here. 81 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:06.600 You want to come in, Yeah, right away? 82 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:11.199 All right, sit on. 83 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:14.240 Hope you two have more than we have. 84 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.360 Sell on that report on the skipper's desk, four month's 85 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.319 leg work, gold, nothing at all, lots. 86 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:22.680 Of phony tips, bum leads. We've got three steak outs going. 87 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.399 His mug shots plastered all over town. 88 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:26.519 No go, huh. 89 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.399 I don't know. I think he's got the perfect face 90 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.160 for a killer. You can hang his description on a 91 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.920 million guys. Got nothing on him at all, been here, 92 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:34.519 just ran down the last lead we own. 93 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.759 Yeah, force nothing on the app and got the dust 94 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.279 on it cold enough to bury. 95 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.879 How long has it been since it happened back in January? 96 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:42.120 With me? 97 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.120 Yeah, twenty seven Stanley Finance Company, San Diego. 98 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:46.000 It's all right there. 99 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.839 And the report in Yeah, I see ald up shooting. 100 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.920 Got twelve thousand suspects of Frank Cheney Church Weber Cheney 101 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:53.519 did the shooting. 102 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.480 That's what stops me. What's that took us? 103 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.399 A couple of weeks to grab turk. Weburn put him 104 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:00.920 away here. It's more than four once and Cheney's still 105 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:01.360 on the loose. 106 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:04.000 Doesn't that he can't be that smart? Well, he's free. 107 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:05.600 I can't think of a better testimonial. 108 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.079 What about the other angles Friday? Besides those three steakhouts. 109 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.199 We covered the town for Cheney. He had four months 110 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.759 of his hotels, rooming houses, motor courts, bars, restaurants, the works. 111 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.360 Must have a couple of thousand copies of his mug shots. 112 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.360 Bet around, no response. I get four or five calls 113 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:22.439 a day on him. Been going on for weeks now 114 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:24.759 we check him out, never the right man. What about 115 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.920 his wife? She's still supposed to be with Cheney. 116 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.120 Isn't she funny thing? We haven't had one report on her. 117 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:30.839 Last time all two of 'em are supposed to have 118 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:32.560 been seen together was five weeks ago. That was up 119 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:33.240 and stopped him. 120 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.079 Cheney's mother in law lives in Marysville, still had a 121 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.000 steak out in her house. 122 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:38.439 Yeah, no leads there either. 123 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:39.160 How about it? 124 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:39.439 Mark? 125 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.360 Nothing to offer? How about the SAME's up here? There 126 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.839 is something we'd like to check on, though. Yeah, one 127 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.120 of McGuire's informance was parole two weeks ago. 128 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.079 He served time with Cheney and Fulsom. 129 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:51.399 You have any things to say? 130 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:54.279 Yeah, his idea. Frank Cheney was the most hated man 131 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:55.079 at Folsom. 132 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:56.800 Most of the kinds had given their right arm to 133 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.600 cool him off. M What made him so popular? Pretty 134 00:06:59.639 --> 00:06:59.920 much of it. 135 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.680 Ran at the Warden's office three times a week regular 136 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.480 and informed in the other cans every chance he got. 137 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.439 You figure some of them might want to even the score, 138 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:07.720 do you if they know anything? 139 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:08.720 I'm pretty sure they'll. 140 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.040 Talk with the try and their leads can't mean any 141 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.199 colding what we got anyway? Are you gonna need any 142 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:13.639 help more? 143 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.079 No? Mcguarre and I can handle a questioning. We'll go 144 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.079 up to Folsom tomorrow. 145 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:20.040 Okay, I don't think there's any argument. This thing needs 146 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:21.959 a quick answer, Joe, you and Ben will have to 147 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.720 push a lot harder and a lot faster. Jane's robbing 148 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:26.759 killed before give him the chance he'll do it again. 149 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.839 We've run down all the possible ankles they had. We 150 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.160 check every lead wee con take up. There's one you miss, yeah, 151 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:38.279 the right one. Find it. From the day Frank Cheney 152 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.160 had been identified as the killer, and the San Diego 153 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.839 hold up murder four months before all of us realized 154 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.839 the danger of another killing. As long as he was 155 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.800 loose after eighteen years in prison, Cheney had a gun 156 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:50.920 and he had his freedom again. We knew he wouldn't 157 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:55.160 give him up easily. Thursday June eighth, Lieutenant Mark Gear 158 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.480 and Sergeant Tony Maguire returned from Folsom Prison after talking 159 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.879 with most of the convicts who knew Cheney well during 160 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:03.600 his prison days. They had a list of more than 161 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.560 forty leads to run down Ben and I took half 162 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.920 of him. We started checking. It went kind of slow 163 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.000 and the results were thin. After running down the first 164 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.600 dozen leads, we'd found out nothing about the suspect that 165 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:19.399 we didn't already know. Monday, June twelfth, we checked with 166 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.360 a John streezact supposedly one of Cheney's close friends up 167 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.920 at Fulls. He'd been paroled before Chaney and he was 168 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.439 now working at a large commercial engraving firm down on 169 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.360 East Maine. 170 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:29.879 Yeah. 171 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:39.399 I know Cheney pretty well, Sag pretty well, Ustimnutally you know. Yeah, 172 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:44.279 I does it, And I know why you're here. 173 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:45.840 Sergeant. I can't help you. 174 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.840 You were pretty close to Chaney up at full from 175 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.159 Worchestrees act best friend, and everybody was his best friend. 176 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.679 Everybody could do him some good. And you haven't seen 177 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:54.960 or heard from him since he got out. 178 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.519 No, but I don't want to. I learned fast. What 179 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.320 do you mean he's a bump sergeant? Some people born 180 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.639 that way tried to talk me to a break once 181 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:04.720 I didn't buy. I knew we'd gone right to the 182 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.639 warden with it. Some people have borne that way bombs. 183 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.720 You think somebody might be hiding him up, somebody's pals? 184 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:12.600 How about them? He's got any pals? 185 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:14.759 I don't know. I could tell you this. They didn't 186 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:17.840 come out of fulsom Did you think of anything at 187 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:19.559 all that might give us some kind of a lead 188 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:23.080 on Genie? I wish I could believe me. I better 189 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:24.000 get back on the job. 190 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:24.840 Shot form me. 191 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.519 He's no better than Cheney. Bum alright, stree Zach, thanks 192 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.559 a lot. Like know. If you're hear anything, I'm gonna 193 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:32.639 leave you one of our cards here. Yeah, okay, so 194 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.200 here's frasacht. What'd you go up for in here? Just 195 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:41.480 what I'm doing? Huh great? We kept at it, checking 196 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.159 out the leads. One by one the same slow, dull 197 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.000 routine that we've been on for four months. It ate 198 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.919 up valuable time, but it was necessary. You never know 199 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.919 what a lead's worth until you check it out. During 200 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:56.879 the past months, from the least promising sources, we'd uncovered 201 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.159 a half a dozen bits of information about the suspect. 202 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.399 None of them concludes, but they helped point the way. 203 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.759 We found out Cheney's favorite sport was sailing. Yacht clubs 204 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:07.679 up and down the coast were contacted and asked to 205 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.759 watch for him. We learned where Cheney got his eyeglasses 206 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.039 contact lenses. We went to the optician, got the prescription 207 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.120 for them, and had copies of it distributed to all 208 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.759 optical firms in the area. They got a request for 209 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.960 lenses which matched those in Cheney's eyeglasses or contact lenses. 210 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:25.240 They were to notify us From a former colleague friend. 211 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.200 We found out that the suspect was once treated for 212 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.759 tuberculosis and because of this, he drank only goat's milk. 213 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.519 All the retailers in the area who sold goats milk 214 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.840 were contacted and alerted. We set up a system to 215 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.120 check regularly all the mail received by relatives of both 216 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.159 Chaney and his wife Thursday, June fifteenth. 217 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.720 Hi, Ha, Diego called while you were out. 218 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.320 What year did they come up with anything? Fair? 219 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.080 One lead told him Cheney learned the printing trade while 220 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.159 he was up at folsom knew the business well enough 221 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:51.679 to work at it. 222 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.480 San Diego checking that out, he alerted the Printer's Union. 223 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:55.480 We'll do the same up here. 224 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.240 Picture and story on Chaney'll be in the Union newspaper 225 00:10:58.279 --> 00:10:58.720 next week. 226 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.960 Yeah, and we dug up another bit on Cheney. We 227 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.679 got it this morning. It's sat instead of ordinary. Ey 228 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:05.120 had last this. 229 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.399 Chaney has been known to work contact lenses, you know, 230 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:08.799 blast fits right over your eye. 231 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.720 Good chance he might be wearing them now. Kind of 232 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:12.639 helped change his appearance. 233 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:14.960 And we got the prescription for the lenses firm. Chane's 234 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.600 eye doctor got the information to all the optical. 235 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:17.879 Firms in town. 236 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:20.840 Right, man out here to see you. 237 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:22.080 Okay, thank you, Dave. 238 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.840 All right, that's all better. Contact San Diego and keep 239 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:25.240 them posting. 240 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:28.120 Gentlemen here too. 241 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.480 Yes, all right, chargent you remember me, Vince Pertoli, you're 242 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:34.960 in my place. 243 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.759 Last month the White House girl placed down on Alimeda. Yeah, 244 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.600 that's right. Block the Union station. Both of you came in. 245 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.480 Yeah, you had coffee and an omelet. 246 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.720 You like, sure? Yeah, what can we do for you? Bertally? 247 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.120 Remember you were talking to me, You said you were 248 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.559 looking for somebody. You left some pictures in this car 249 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:51.240 to yours here. 250 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:52.600 Yeah, that's right. 251 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.600 Well I lost the pictures. I don't know why I 252 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.279 lost him, but I kept your card. That's why I 253 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.000 came to see you. What Well, as I say, I 254 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.120 lost the pictures, but I still have an idea. 255 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:01.600 What they look like. 256 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:03.679 Have you seen either one of those people, the man 257 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:04.200 of the woman. 258 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.679 Well that's why I came to check with you. 259 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.480 A week ago, one of my steady waitresses quit and 260 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:09.960 I hired this brunette with a. 261 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:10.720 Hard luck story. 262 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:13.080 Hey carefors take a gun? 263 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.120 Licorice flavor? No, no, no, I think. 264 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.639 Well, after a couple of days, I remember that picture 265 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.840 you gave me and I thought she looked a little 266 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:21.120 like it. 267 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:22.919 That's why I kept her eye on him. 268 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.279 Did you notice anything out of the ordinary? You bet. 269 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.240 She never dates anybody, not even me, and I'm the boss. 270 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:30.080 Not ugly either. 271 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:30.519 Yeah. 272 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.360 She always claims she's got to get home, never gives 273 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:35.879 a reason, says she lives alone? 274 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.679 Or where does she live? A couple of blocks. 275 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.399 From my place on North Jersey. I think I checked 276 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.159 the place where she does her shop and me tell 277 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.120 me she buys enough groceries for three people. 278 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.559 She still insisted she's living by herself. 279 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.399 Yeah, that's why I thought i'd better check with you. 280 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.200 I lost the pictures, but I hung on your card. 281 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.039 Would you take a look at this photograph of totally. 282 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.879 Yeah pursing when you gave me looks just like her 283 00:12:58.919 --> 00:12:59.519 Mary Swoan? 284 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.200 Who Mary Sloan? What your name isn't it? You want 285 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:12.200 to turn that picture over missus Frank Cheney. Thursday, four pm, 286 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:13.960 Ben and I drove down to the White House Grill 287 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:15.279 and had a cup of coffee. We got a good 288 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:17.200 look at the waitress, whom the owner, Vince per Toli, 289 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.639 suspected of being Missus Cheney. We left and waited outside 290 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.039 in the car until five o'clock when the suspect came out. 291 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.399 We followed her at a grocery store and from there 292 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.440 to a Rundown apartment building on Graystone Alley, just off Temple. 293 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.840 We waited a few minutes and then we followed her 294 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.639 in the tab on one of the mailboxes read Mary Sloan, 295 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:41.759 Apartment sixteen. We went up which one Joe number sixteen? 296 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:53.639 Down this way? Come on, I guess we better try 297 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:53.960 the door. 298 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.120 Who is there? 299 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.000 Who is police officers? Hop them up? 300 00:13:59.120 --> 00:13:59.679 What do you want? 301 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:09.000 Open the door? Anybody else in here? My brother he's 302 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.480 sick sleeping in the next room. You can't be disturbed. 303 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.879 Come on, Ben, you can't go in there. Honey, the 304 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.639 cock go shoe the window, all right, get back inside here, 305 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:18.679 come on. 306 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.519 Here, all right? 307 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:36.200 Are you all right? Yeah? He broke bread? You were Yeah, 308 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:44.480 you got clipped for nothing, not cheney. We drove the 309 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.679 man and the woman, who identified herself as Mary Sloan, 310 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.120 back to the office where they are identified as fugitives 311 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.279 from Miami, Florida. The man was wanted on charges of 312 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.799 first degree burglary. The woman was the accomplice. We turned 313 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.960 the case over to Bunko Fugitive Detail. A little after 314 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.519 eleven o'clock Friday morning, Ben got a tip to the Cheenie 315 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.399 had been seen the night before at a small bar 316 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.200 down there. Pullark and that's a Los Angeles suburb. He's 317 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.279 supposed to be living in the area. We spent Friday, 318 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.919 Saturday and Sunday tracking it down and went nowhere. On Monday, 319 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:15.759 for the first time in three and a half weeks, 320 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.679 we had some time off half a day. I picked 321 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.519 up a policewoman, Dorothy River, and drove her out to 322 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:22.840 the house for lunch. We had a barbecue out in 323 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:27.080 the backyard. Certainly a wonderful place you have here on Socrietay, 324 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:28.240 beautiful garden. 325 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.240 Oh thank you. It's a lot of work keeping it up. 326 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:38.519 Roses didn't do well at all this year, acis you. 327 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.919 Know much more spaits Dorothy? The fires just right now. 328 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:43.840 Oh no, thanks, Joe, I've had plenty. 329 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:47.600 Care for another cup of coffee? All right, thank you. 330 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:55.720 I'm glad you could come today, Dorothy. Joseph's been talking 331 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:59.480 so much about you. Oh you sproused me a little 332 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:00.279 when I met too. 333 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:01.000 How's that? 334 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:07.919 No, Joseph, I don't think you look at all like policewomen. 335 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.919 Most of them are rough looking, I think. 336 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.120 Oh no, I don't think so. 337 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:15.399 They look like most women. 338 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:19.159 Nothing much out of the ordinary about them. Oh well, 339 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:25.240 times have certainly changed. We didn't have police women when 340 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:25.919 I was a girl. 341 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:27.519 Probably could have used them. 342 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.480 Well, I don't know. I don't think we have so 343 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:35.320 much crime then times were much different. You seem so 344 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.519 young for such work, Dorothy, Policewomen. 345 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.000 I'm twenty five, missus Friday in the department, almost two 346 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.240 years as. 347 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:50.240 Your young girl. Joseph's thirty one. You know, yes, I know. 348 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.240 Hey Ma, how about letting me get you? 349 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.000 Oh no, no match, all right, Joseph. You just sit there, 350 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:59.600 have your coffee. I'm used to this, have to get 351 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:06.079 used to housework when you're married. Wonderful dinner, Joe. 352 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:08.079 Your mother is very sweet. 353 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.759 Yeah, real subtle, isn't she motherly instinct. Somebody has to 354 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.440 look after you. That's the phone, Dorothy. I better grab it. 355 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:26.279 I'll be right back. Okay, never mind, moll let me 356 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.440 get it. Friday tongue. 357 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:30.319 This is Walker. 358 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:32.640 Joe, check back in right away. What do you got. 359 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:34.960 Spring in West Tampa, the Second National Bank. 360 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:36.480 Yeah, Frank Chaney just. 361 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:36.920 Held it up. 362 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.240 You are listening to drag nets. 363 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.599 Monday, June nineteenth, three pm. I went back to the office, 364 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.599 picked up Ben and Captain Walker, and the three of 365 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:03.200 us drove to the scene of the robbery at the 366 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:05.599 corner of Spring and West Temple the Second National Bank. 367 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.519 Ricketts and Thaster from robbery details were already there. Questioning 368 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.400 the witnesses, we talked to the bank's vice president in 369 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.759 charge at the time of the hold up on mister Bronson. 370 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:15.640 He had a weld on the right side of his 371 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:17.400 head and was pretty badly shaken. 372 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:19.720 He had his hand in one of his coat pockets 373 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.000 and he walked straight over to me. It's the first 374 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.799 thing he said, this. 375 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.200 Is a hold up. You're a positive of The identification 376 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:26.880 is brun. 377 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.000 I'm certain this picture here it's the man, all right. 378 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:32.000 The others will tell you the same. 379 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.240 Who is that mister Bronson? 380 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.559 The tellers eh all got a good look at him, 381 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:36.079 no mistake. 382 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.440 Well what happened after Cheney approached him. He was very calm, 383 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:40.039 very quiet. 384 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:44.599 Huh, he said, do exactly what I tell you, Call 385 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.799 for help and I'll kill you. He would calm all 386 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.759 the way through it, just like it was an ordinary 387 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:50.440 business with him. 388 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.079 Did he have you get the money for him? 389 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:52.240 No? 390 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.480 He ordered me from back to the front counter there 391 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.039 and we went from cage to cage. Each time he 392 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.720 had me say the same thing to the teller, this 393 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.319 is a hold up. Give me all the currency you have, 394 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:05.519 don't call for help. 395 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:08.240 How many taillers? Did he have you collect from five? 396 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.759 Just lying along here? Windows one to five? My knees 397 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.680 were shaking so hard I could barely walk. I kept 398 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:17.720 wondering if one of the taillers might try to sound 399 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:18.160 the alarm. 400 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:20.680 Answer? What happened? After he got the money? 401 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.119