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Speaker 3: I had a nice in my hand, and I think
Speaker 3: the blanket was over his head, and I pulled the
Speaker 3: blanket off.
Speaker 4: I think I started stabbing him in the throat.
Speaker 5: I sold it lifely his eyes and everything.
Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 1: and then the guys in the higher tiers complain. And
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Speaker 1: don't have to attack me personally and you know, try
Speaker 1: to dig up secrets about me and like, you know,
Speaker 1: try to ruin my life and all that shit, Like
Speaker 1: what is that? What's wrong?
Speaker 6: Would you be?
Speaker 1: Grow? Ah Buca Raton, Florida, sits on the Atlantic Coast,
Speaker 1: manicured neighborhoods, gated communities, palm line streets, a sun drenched
Speaker 1: tropical paradise where tourists find it easy to forget that
Speaker 1: life just kind of happens here, and residents have to
Speaker 1: get a move on with their routine and get things done.
Speaker 1: Just a few miles north, in the smaller city of
Speaker 1: Delray Beach, that routine continued on the night of February two,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Traffic moved through intersections, patrol cars idled at lights.
Speaker 1: Nothing was unusual, that is, until the traffic cop pulled
Speaker 1: over a white Ford Explorer.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be the eleven hundred block South Federal, so
Speaker 7: I Ford Explored reference snow lights. Can you put your
Speaker 7: hands on the little body okay, hey, there almost just
Speaker 7: was the reason why.
Speaker 4: Uh I pulled you over?
Speaker 8: You don't have any lights on?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Tuck behind the wheel was a man in his mid twenties.
Speaker 1: He didn't appear intoxicated. His speech was steady, his demeanor calm.
Speaker 1: If anything, he seemed apologetic. But something about him stopped
Speaker 1: the officer cold. His face, his chest, his hands were
Speaker 1: all spattered with blood.
Speaker 5: Are you okay on?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just had a note lead?
Speaker 7: Do you share?
Speaker 5: You don't need paramax anything? Okay?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Are you able to turn your lights on?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Are you sure you didn't get like beat up or anything?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: I just had a nosebleed. I get him all the time.
Speaker 7: Okay, do you have your license on your body?
Speaker 4: I don't actually, but I have my Yeah? Yeah, do
Speaker 4: you have your idea?
Speaker 1: The strange man with a nosebleed handed over his license,
Speaker 1: which identified him as twenty six year old Jared Noyman.
Speaker 1: As the officer returned to his patrol car to run
Speaker 1: Jared's information, another unit pulled up. The second officer immediately
Speaker 1: noticed the blood.
Speaker 5: He's got blood all over his face. You seal the
Speaker 5: blood on his face?
Speaker 1: Say he's headed like that dude, it is no fucking.
Speaker 7: That's why I was like, bro, you need have to
Speaker 7: be okay, got a fight, Like no, I just had
Speaker 7: a real.
Speaker 5: Bad, none oly shit.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Jared, the blood wasn't the only issue. When
Speaker 1: officers ran Jared's information, they discovered something else. Driver's license,
Speaker 1: which was actually a learner's permit, had expired.
Speaker 7: All right, so I'll say you know that your license
Speaker 7: isn't good.
Speaker 10: This is not good.
Speaker 7: It's been expired since twenty sixteen, and it's a E
Speaker 7: class learners, which means you're supposed to have someone twenty
Speaker 7: one or older that's licensed with you.
Speaker 5: Oh so I didn't know it was about eight.
Speaker 7: It's fine. I'm only giving you a citation. You do
Speaker 7: have to show up to court. You just take your
Speaker 7: indu back. You just got a sign saying that you're
Speaker 7: gonna show up, all right, and you can keep my
Speaker 7: pen because you're.
Speaker 9: Covered in blood.
Speaker 1: The officer issued a citation for the expired license and
Speaker 1: told Jared that he could not drive away. He would
Speaker 1: need to call someone to pick him up.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you this, You're not allowed to drive, okay,
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna pol over the thing again.
Speaker 5: That's what I suggest.
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, you're an adult. You get caught driving, I mean,
Speaker 7: it's started going to show that you got a court tate,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So they're gonna they're not
Speaker 7: gonna give you any breaks, just gonna arrest.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next, the officers returned to questions about the blood. By
Speaker 1: now they had noticed the scratches, the small cuts on
Speaker 1: Jared's hands and forearms. They knew that all the blood
Speaker 1: did not come from a nose bleed.
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to tell you besides how to.
Speaker 5: The butt all over your toes and it's like you
Speaker 5: bathe the blood.
Speaker 9: That's not just a note.
Speaker 7: If you're part of something actively bleeding from your elbows,
Speaker 7: so it's not just the nose.
Speaker 12: Uh yeah, just quick.
Speaker 1: After stepping out of the vehicle, Jared changed his story.
Speaker 1: He admitted the blood hadn't come from his nose.
Speaker 8: From the blood all of your feet, it wouldn't run from.
Speaker 4: The nose your feet. They're bleeding from the elbows currently.
Speaker 5: The knuckles are bleeding.
Speaker 9: So what happened?
Speaker 5: For real?
Speaker 4: I gotta fight with somebody and they they hit me
Speaker 4: and beat up.
Speaker 7: Where this is happening in Boca.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to report this?
Speaker 9: I mean.
Speaker 4: No, it's no big deal to me. I mean, you
Speaker 4: beat the shit out of me pretty bad.
Speaker 5: Who's this person?
Speaker 4: I don't really know him like that. He was just
Speaker 4: somebody it was arguing with me.
Speaker 1: After hearing his new explanation, the officers requested EMTs to
Speaker 1: the scene and asked them to do a basic check
Speaker 1: up on Jared. At the same time, they contacted Boca
Speaker 1: Raton Dispatch to check for any reports of a fight.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's Alcor Smith with del REPETI. Hey, I just
Speaker 7: pulled over a guy. His name's Jared Neuman. He said
Speaker 7: he got into a fight in Boca with somebody. I'm
Speaker 7: trying to see if you guys have any batteries recently
Speaker 7: that you're looking for this dude.
Speaker 5: He was covered in blood.
Speaker 1: The Boca Raton Dispatch reported no recent calls about a fight.
Speaker 1: No one there. I was looking for Jared. So the
Speaker 1: Delray officers had a decision to make. What should they
Speaker 1: do with Jared and what should they do with this
Speaker 1: Ford explorer?
Speaker 7: Or I got to tow the car And it looks
Speaker 7: like you're living in you work out of it, So
Speaker 7: are you able to call somebody.
Speaker 4: I'm really not Can you please like not totally.
Speaker 5: Call That's what I'm saying. If you can call somebody.
Speaker 4: An if you take that car, I have nothing, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be sleeping on.
Speaker 7: I understand that, but it's also a liability on me.
Speaker 7: If I knowingly let you leave with the car and
Speaker 7: then something happens, it looks bad on me.
Speaker 5: It's gonna happen. I'm just going to pull over in
Speaker 5: the nearest spot.
Speaker 4: It just that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: Jared pleaded with the officers not to tow his vehicle.
Speaker 1: He told them he worked out of it, lived out
Speaker 1: of it. It was all he had, So the officers
Speaker 1: gave him a break. They allowed him to move the
Speaker 1: vehicle to a nearby parking lot on the condition that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't drive again until has expired licensed situation was resolved.
Speaker 1: Jared agreed, and just like that, he was free to go.
Speaker 1: The next morning, about ten miles south in Boca Ratan,
Speaker 1: a parking garage employee arrived for work and discovered something
Speaker 1: waiting outside, something horrible.
Speaker 12: He comes up the.
Speaker 1: Show for work.
Speaker 12: He comes up the ramp, he sees the black peg
Speaker 12: right on the other side of that pillar.
Speaker 5: There's a black peg.
Speaker 12: Don't know if it's connected enough, but he sees it,
Speaker 12: and well, he didn't see the blood Yetcause he's in
Speaker 12: his car. He sees the bag, and he's been here
Speaker 12: for like fifteen years, so he's used to seeing homeless
Speaker 12: people here. So right away you say, no, there's a
Speaker 12: homeless guy in here somewhere. Makes the turn as he's
Speaker 12: coming up the ramp. He's looking straight at that. He
Speaker 12: sees that, doesn't know what condition he's and he sees
Speaker 12: the blood. She shoots up top, parks the car, walks down,
Speaker 12: sees him and calls nine one one.
Speaker 13: What's the location of your emergency?
Speaker 8: It is in the parking ride of one South Ocean
Speaker 8: Boulevard in Boca ratone. There is a dead gentleman here
Speaker 8: with a knife wound, blood all over the place, and
Speaker 8: he is dead, not breathing. Yep, he is dead.
Speaker 13: Is he in a car?
Speaker 5: No, He's laying on the ground.
Speaker 8: Is he white black or Hispanic white?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 8: The handle is right by his head and the nice
Speaker 8: part of about though, four feet away from him on
Speaker 8: the ground. And where is the staff? When I'm there's
Speaker 8: blood around his head and shoulders and there is there
Speaker 8: any kind of car around him? No, there's no car.
Speaker 8: It looks like a homeless person because he had his
Speaker 8: mats here and his coat and his flip floped sandals,
Speaker 8: and nobody else is around. Did you see anybody going
Speaker 8: to leave as you were coming in? No?
Speaker 13: No.
Speaker 1: After the parking garage worker discovered what appeared to be
Speaker 1: a homeless man stabbed at death, he called nine one
Speaker 1: one and detectives quickly arrived. What they found was an
Speaker 1: area saturated with blood and clear signs of a very
Speaker 1: brutal attack.
Speaker 12: Almost looks like he was sleeping there and got attacked. Yeah,
Speaker 12: all right, stay back over here, because you got some
Speaker 12: blood over here, I got footprints here. Just please watched
Speaker 12: the stairs, blood footprints coming away from him, don't so? Yeah, please.
Speaker 1: As detectives processed the scene, they noticed a trail of
Speaker 1: bloody footprints leading away from the body. It didn't take
Speaker 1: long for them to form a theory about what happened.
Speaker 1: They assumed the homeless man had been sleeping in the
Speaker 1: parking garage when he was attacked and stabbed repeatedly. There
Speaker 1: were signs of a brief struggle. Then the killer must
Speaker 1: have fled.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's knife handle is next to him up there,
Speaker 12: and then the blader's over here. It looks like he
Speaker 12: was sleeping and got attacked and then wound up over
Speaker 12: here and dropped. But whoever was with him walked out
Speaker 12: this way.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nearby detectives also recover a murder weapon, a cheap knife, long,
Speaker 1: sharp and broken. Yeah, he fought.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's got you can see slice wounds, defensive. His
Speaker 12: hands are up on it. Yeah, he's guys. He's got
Speaker 12: a stab where he broke the knife off the hand,
Speaker 12: broke the handle off the knife.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty good, pretty good played.
Speaker 5: Knife still up there and everything.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: After several hours, the body was removed from the parking
Speaker 1: lot and transported to the Medical Examiner's office for an
Speaker 1: autopsy and hopefully an identification. As detectives continued their work,
Speaker 1: word began to spread the local media reported that a
Speaker 1: man had been found dead inside a Boca Ratan parking lot.
Speaker 1: Residents woke up to the news of a violent crime
Speaker 1: in their community, with few answers and no suspect and custody.
Speaker 14: Bogertrump police closed off the One Ocean Plaza parking garage
Speaker 14: on Monday as they investigated how a man ended up
Speaker 14: dead with a knife wound. This section of A one
Speaker 14: A is a popular place for walkers and cyclist. Kevin
Speaker 14: Metz says he's never seen this kind of crime around here.
Speaker 12: You know, pretty shocking, and you know East Booker Ratoni,
Speaker 12: you think it'd be very safe for.
Speaker 14: Hopes it's an isolated incident.
Speaker 15: It's sad, and it could be just a one weird
Speaker 15: accident that happened.
Speaker 7: It could be something odd, because I wouldn't anticipate.
Speaker 15: That this would be the norm, because this is a very,
Speaker 15: very lovely community.
Speaker 14: And as of right now, Boca Raton police haven't released
Speaker 14: any information about who the victim is and their death
Speaker 14: investigation continues.
Speaker 1: For a moment, the Boca Ratan police had no suspect,
Speaker 1: no name, no clear direction, just a body in a
Speaker 1: parking lot and a trail of bloody footprints leading away.
Speaker 1: What they didn't know, what no one in Boca Ratan knew,
Speaker 1: was just a few hours earlier, Adelray Beach traffic cop
Speaker 1: had already stopped the man responsible for this murder. He
Speaker 1: had blood on his face, on his chest, on his hands,
Speaker 1: and they just let him go. On the morning of
Speaker 1: February third, twenty twenty, Boca Raton detectives were investigating a
Speaker 1: fatal stabbing inside a parking lot. A man had been
Speaker 1: found dead, bloody footprints led away from the scene. There
Speaker 1: was no suspect in custody. Just hours earlier, in a
Speaker 1: neighboring city, a patrol officer had stopped the white Ford
Speaker 1: Explorer driven by a young man covered in blood. The
Speaker 1: two encounters had not been connected yet, but that wouldn't last.
Speaker 1: After reviewing surveillance and processing the scene, detectives began zeroing
Speaker 1: in on a name. An arrest warrant was issued for
Speaker 1: twenty six year old Jared Neuman, and it didn't take
Speaker 1: long for Boca Raton police to find him. Once again,
Speaker 1: Jared was behind the wheel of a white Ford Explorer,
Speaker 1: but this time when officers pulled him over, they approached
Speaker 1: him with their guns drawn.
Speaker 6: Burn your vehicle.
Speaker 16: Off, driver, roll down your window, river lake, your hands
Speaker 16: outside of the vehicle. Full hands outside of the vehicle,
Speaker 16: full pands, keeping your hands outside of the vehicle, use
Speaker 16: your left hand to open the driver's side door and
Speaker 16: step out.
Speaker 1: During this traffic stop, Jared was taken into custody without insident.
Speaker 1: His explorer was seized and Jared was brought into the
Speaker 1: police station where two homicide detectives were waiting to question him.
Speaker 10: So, your first name was Jared, right in your last
Speaker 10: name theoymany An?
Speaker 17: And what's your birthday?
Speaker 4: One sixteen ninety four?
Speaker 6: And you have an address? No? Where do you currently stay? At?
Speaker 9: My car?
Speaker 6: In your car?
Speaker 17: What kind of car is up for deploys?
Speaker 6: It registered too?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you been doing that.
Speaker 4: In the car a couple of years now. Oh well,
Speaker 4: I have a job though, I'm trying to get a place.
Speaker 5: So I heard you doing.
Speaker 4: I do like like a restaurant and firehouse huves?
Speaker 17: Oh good here in the city.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, do you like it?
Speaker 4: I don't particular who like it? Put a need to money,
Speaker 4: so make sure I go every day.
Speaker 1: Before outright addressing their murder investigation, the detectives took their
Speaker 1: time and began the interview by asking Jared about his background.
Speaker 6: You said your.
Speaker 10: Parents had a divorce when you or twelve, but then
Speaker 10: but then you lived with mom.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you stayed in Ohio.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When did you move down here.
Speaker 4: In Florida when I was eighteen?
Speaker 17: You're eighteen, okay? And who did you stay with what
Speaker 17: you got down here.
Speaker 4: I just moved down here. I stayed with by myself in.
Speaker 6: Like an apartment, a house.
Speaker 4: Or like I was just gonna stay in my car.
Speaker 1: From the start, something about Jared's responses felt a little off.
Speaker 1: You didn't appear nervous or confused, but his answers were
Speaker 1: guarded and they didn't always add up. Follow Up questions
Speaker 1: about his background often contradicted details he had just mentioned
Speaker 1: moments earlier.
Speaker 5: So your parents don't lived together, right, Okay?
Speaker 9: Do you see them often? My parents?
Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I'm down here.
Speaker 9: How long a se me?
Speaker 5: Did they come visit or anything?
Speaker 6: Or did they work?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: My mom's working.
Speaker 17: What do they do?
Speaker 4: My mom was a nurse. I'm I'm really sure my
Speaker 4: dad does that. I I stopped talking to him.
Speaker 6: Oh, you guys have fallout.
Speaker 2: I like a fall I just you know, nobody in
Speaker 2: the family really talks to him, Like I don't talk
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 4: I probably don't talk to him.
Speaker 6: Why is that?
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know. He's just a weird person.
Speaker 2: Do you have mental problems or drug I think he does,
Speaker 2: but he won't admit it. He's like the type of
Speaker 2: person that says, tells everyone else there crazy, and then
Speaker 2: everyone else is saying, no, you're crazy, and he's like.
Speaker 8: No, I'm not.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's just distance yourself and people like
Speaker 4: that was the.
Speaker 5: Last time you saw him?
Speaker 9: A few years? How about your mom? It's just every years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next, the detectives shifted their focus to a key piece
Speaker 1: of the investigation, Jared's vehicle. The white Ford explore that car.
Speaker 9: That you have, does anyone else drive it? No, You're
Speaker 9: the only one that drives it. Yeah, because there's there
Speaker 9: was like some tools and stuff in there. Those that's
Speaker 9: for works. What are you to do with those?
Speaker 4: There was a paining job.
Speaker 9: Uh what kind of painting?
Speaker 18: What do you mean?
Speaker 19: What kind of like interior exterior finishing business?
Speaker 4: Just uh, exterior pan I will go to do that.
Speaker 9: This is this is like we're just curious. We're just
Speaker 9: trying to get to know.
Speaker 5: Because we saw that starting there, Like it almost seems
Speaker 5: like there was more than one person.
Speaker 4: Really weird questions.
Speaker 5: She seems like this more than one person living in the.
Speaker 2: Car and stuff like that went on personally in the car.
Speaker 9: I'll stop for more than one person.
Speaker 10: Yeah, just you Yeah, Okay, and he said it was
Speaker 10: registered to you.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First, Jared told detectives he worked at fire house sucks,
Speaker 1: but when asked about the tools and supplies and his explore,
Speaker 1: he claimed to also be a painter. The story didn't
Speaker 1: really add up, and detectives already knew the vehicle wasn't
Speaker 1: registered to Jared. They also knew that he wasn't the
Speaker 1: only person living out of it.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that car, oh man, two years and you
Speaker 11: lived in a car.
Speaker 4: And that's where you in the car.
Speaker 6: Where do you normally stay? Like where do you park
Speaker 6: it at night?
Speaker 4: Like you probably like in the part of the whole parking.
Speaker 2: Lot here, Yeah, park the front, in the back, just
Speaker 2: towards the back.
Speaker 6: Okay, what are you doing to get cleaned up and stuff?
Speaker 9: I remember?
Speaker 4: Fitness? Okay, fitness show.
Speaker 1: The detectives also questioned Jared about his criminal history, even
Speaker 1: though they already knew this wasn't his first encounter with
Speaker 1: law enforcement.
Speaker 6: Have you been in trouble before? And what have you
Speaker 6: ever been in trouble before? Have you ever had him
Speaker 6: right written to you?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 17: What were you in trouble before before?
Speaker 2: Just like just like small tercations and all stuff that
Speaker 2: you know, I just made a mistake, and you know,
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 5: Not the major not at all them done the same thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, bull had decisions.
Speaker 5: Anything recent, not really.
Speaker 1: None of what Jared told detectives about his record was true.
Speaker 1: At just twenty six years old, he had already accumulated
Speaker 1: a growing list of pretty serious criminal charges.
Speaker 20: Police say this isn't Neuman's first run in with the law.
Speaker 20: He was arrested on February twenty second. In June nineteenth
Speaker 20: for simple battery against strangers, and he was interviewed by
Speaker 20: law enforcement in October after posting Facebook comments with threats
Speaker 20: to kill, do bodily injury, or conduct a mass shooting
Speaker 20: or an act of terrorism.
Speaker 1: After hearing Jared lie about his record and the ownership
Speaker 1: of the Ford Explorer, detectives shifted their focus to the
Speaker 1: night before the bloody traffic stop in Delray Beach. When
Speaker 1: the Delray cops asked why Jared had been covered in blood,
Speaker 1: he offered a simple explanation. He claimed he'd been in
Speaker 1: a fight.
Speaker 10: So taking back to again, this didn't happen last night,
Speaker 10: because this is the that's the main thing that we're
Speaker 10: concerned about, is this person trying to locate them.
Speaker 4: I don't have any information.
Speaker 17: You don't have anything else, you know their phone number
Speaker 17: or anything like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know them like that.
Speaker 10: Okay, So after you left the traffic stop at del right,
Speaker 10: did you go anywhere to clean yourself up?
Speaker 4: I mean, what is all this for? Why am I
Speaker 4: being questioned in all this?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 10: Well, you're pretty you had a lot of blood on
Speaker 10: you right last night when they came into mart right.
Speaker 6: But when a violent crime.
Speaker 10: Happens in Boca, then it becomes our problem because we
Speaker 10: have somebody out there who'd already are people.
Speaker 4: I can't go get the guy for you. I don't
Speaker 4: know where he lives. I don't know him like that.
Speaker 10: Well, there's this certain things that you've been telling us
Speaker 10: that just kind of don't like they're like really easy questions,
Speaker 10: Like it seems like you're not telling us the truth.
Speaker 1: On After pressing Jared a bit more, detectives were able
Speaker 1: to get him to give up a few more details
Speaker 1: about this supposed fight that he had.
Speaker 4: He just approached me.
Speaker 2: He was very aggressive and we argued for a minute,
Speaker 2: and then he started attacking me and I fought back,
Speaker 2: and we just kind of got into a fight and eventually,
Speaker 2: you know, he just stopped and got tired.
Speaker 4: And just walked off, and I walked off and that
Speaker 4: was it.
Speaker 6: Where did this happen at?
Speaker 4: It was in Boca well like where it was like
Speaker 4: somewhere on your motto?
Speaker 2: Like I was walking, you know, and he just approached
Speaker 2: me and I've seen him a couple of times.
Speaker 9: Like he kind of knows me not really.
Speaker 6: Do you know? Like your mom's a pretty big route.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, Like I was like just
Speaker 2: walking in and like Patent was specifically where.
Speaker 6: I was, And who's the guy that confronts you?
Speaker 9: I don't know his name?
Speaker 6: How do you know? Like how have you seen?
Speaker 2: I've just seen him a couple of times, Like he's
Speaker 2: talked to me before, like briefly, but.
Speaker 17: Like where have you where have you seen him at?
Speaker 4: I was just like around like here and there?
Speaker 9: Can you describe him?
Speaker 4: I mean, like how male?
Speaker 5: Female?
Speaker 9: Lack?
Speaker 6: This fan?
Speaker 9: Black?
Speaker 5: Black mail?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Black?
Speaker 17: Now?
Speaker 9: I thought? How old he is?
Speaker 4: I have no idea? I mean twenty thirty forty.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Do you think you got the best of him or
Speaker 5: he got the best of you?
Speaker 4: He definitely got the best of me.
Speaker 9: Oh really?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So you got the worst with the cuts and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, how annoying is it when people are vague
Speaker 1: like this, intentionally obtuse, tell me you're lying without telling
Speaker 1: me you're lying. As detectives continued pressing for specifics, his
Speaker 1: demeanor began to shift. For the first time, Jared's composure
Speaker 1: appeared to slip.
Speaker 9: Where'd you get up going after work? Where you going
Speaker 9: after work?
Speaker 10: Just in my car?
Speaker 17: There's something that's going on you want to tell us about.
Speaker 10: You look like you're episode about something. Yeah, you just
Speaker 10: looked like you got lost in thought for a second.
Speaker 10: I just want to make sure that there's not a
Speaker 10: missing piece to this that you hold him back on it.
Speaker 9: Are all right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 13: That okay.
Speaker 1: Up to this point, the detectives had allowed Jared room
Speaker 1: to talk, to explain, to revise, to hedge, but eventually
Speaker 1: that changed. Detectives stopped trying to understand the story and
Speaker 1: began challenging it.
Speaker 19: And we know it didn't happen on your motto, and
Speaker 19: we know that your car wasn't at the McDonald's, and
Speaker 19: we kind of know where you are.
Speaker 17: All right, So what can you tell us about what
Speaker 17: actually happened.
Speaker 4: I don't have any any more information. I just whatever
Speaker 4: I said is what I was saying.
Speaker 9: Will you buy the beach yesterday? What is this about?
Speaker 5: Just ask anywhere you play the beach yesterday.
Speaker 9: I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Answer any more questions. I feel like, I mean, like
Speaker 4: targeting or something.
Speaker 1: The shift in the detective's tone had a noticeable effect.
Speaker 1: Jared began to retreat. His answers grew shorter. Then he
Speaker 1: stopped answering altogether. But the detectives didn't ease up. They
Speaker 1: doubled down and confronted Jared with more of the inconsistencies
Speaker 1: in a story.
Speaker 6: We know that you were over by the beach last night.
Speaker 17: Okay, you're on video at seven eleven. Okay, we know.
Speaker 6: I don't know why you're distancing yourself from your dad.
Speaker 10: You don't want to talk about your dad. We know
Speaker 10: the vehicles registered to him. Okay, it's not registered to you.
Speaker 10: We know that you guys were together in the vehicle
Speaker 10: a month ago, right you got arrested.
Speaker 6: You got into a domestic with him.
Speaker 17: You were living down here with him.
Speaker 6: And you're lying and telling us that he's living with
Speaker 6: his mom somewhere. So there's all these things that you're
Speaker 6: telling us that you're lying to us about, and I
Speaker 6: think it's because you're upset with what happened last night.
Speaker 10: Understandably, Okay, but you need to tell us the truth
Speaker 10: about what.
Speaker 6: Exactly happened because you're lying.
Speaker 10: There's all these things that we know that you're lying about,
Speaker 10: but we just need to know exactly what happened.
Speaker 9: What did happen? That's what we need you to tell us.
Speaker 4: Jared, Can you tell me?
Speaker 9: Because I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: After more than an hour of questioning, the detectives stopped circling.
Speaker 1: They moved directly to the reason why Jared was in
Speaker 1: that room, the bloody and fatal stabbing in the parking lot.
Speaker 6: So we saw how much blood there was on you.
Speaker 10: I also see the injuries that you have. All that
Speaker 10: blood was not your blood, okay.
Speaker 6: So that blood's going to.
Speaker 17: Be in your car, okay, and you know what that's
Speaker 17: going to come back to.
Speaker 6: What who's the blood going to come back to? What
Speaker 6: do you mean in your car?
Speaker 10: The blood in your car that was all over you,
Speaker 10: that's not yours Because you only have.
Speaker 6: A couple of small injuries.
Speaker 9: You're seeing blood in my car.
Speaker 10: There was blood all over you last night, all over
Speaker 10: your face, all over both of your arms, all over
Speaker 10: your pant legs, all over your feet.
Speaker 5: I could see it on the outside of your car
Speaker 5: and on your arm wrest and on the center console.
Speaker 5: From standing outside your car, you can see.
Speaker 6: It, that blood. That was a lot of fler.
Speaker 9: We don't know who you gotta fight with. We need
Speaker 9: you to tell us who you gotta fight We know
Speaker 9: the person, I don't know the we do.
Speaker 4: How do you know the person we use?
Speaker 9: Telling him?
Speaker 21: Just asking me about them, because we're seeing how honest
Speaker 21: you're gonna be with this, and we don't think you're
Speaker 21: honest at all.
Speaker 1: Next, the detectives turned their attention to the victim. They
Speaker 1: already knew who he was, and so did Jared.
Speaker 19: Since that's your dad's car, how do we get ahold
Speaker 19: of your dad to tell him that's his car and
Speaker 19: we have it because we got to release to somebody.
Speaker 9: Where is he? Do you have a number for him?
Speaker 18: No?
Speaker 9: What was the last time you saw him? Why even?
Speaker 5: Why is that a tough question for you? It's really not.
Speaker 4: It's just I don't even know why.
Speaker 21: I'm asked one of the last time you saw your
Speaker 21: dad because I look at this, But Mom, you need
Speaker 21: to get his car back to him.
Speaker 4: No, I'm the one using it.
Speaker 5: Is you don't understand it's a registered to him, my law.
Speaker 5: He's the only one that can get the.
Speaker 4: Okay, then he can come get it when he needs
Speaker 4: to get it.
Speaker 9: He won't know where it's at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to contact I can contact him.
Speaker 9: Wow, I just don't want to answer my question.
Speaker 5: What was the last time you saw your dad?
Speaker 4: When it was the less time you saw him?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: Today today, the victim in this homicide investigation, the man
Speaker 1: found brutally stabbed to death inside a Boca Raton parking lot,
Speaker 1: was fifty nine year old Jay Noyman. He was Jareded's father.
Speaker 22: So obviously, Jared, we're here about your dad, and we
Speaker 22: can't tell with my dad.
Speaker 9: We can't be any more clear about that.
Speaker 4: Why are you here about my dad?
Speaker 9: Tell us?
Speaker 4: I would like you to tell me. Why are you
Speaker 4: here about my dad?
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's obvious that you know because all
Speaker 10: the questions that you've been avoiding today have had some
Speaker 10: sort of relation.
Speaker 13: To your dad.
Speaker 10: There are certain things that you've been honest about out
Speaker 10: and certain things that you've lied about, and every.
Speaker 6: Single thing that you've lied about is how to do
Speaker 6: with your dad?
Speaker 5: What was going on?
Speaker 1: When the conversation turned to his father, Jared responded the
Speaker 1: same way he had all along. He acted as if
Speaker 1: he didn't understand what the detectives were asking. It's like,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he doesn't understand English. Some people
Speaker 1: really suck that line.
Speaker 9: So forces you're what really is?
Speaker 4: What is enforcement?
Speaker 19: Because as my partner said, you're well aware while you're here,
Speaker 19: and you're.
Speaker 5: Well aware of the situation that's going on. No, I'm
Speaker 5: not to sit here and you sit.
Speaker 9: Here and act like you are. I thought you were
Speaker 9: more of.
Speaker 5: A man, and I thought you were more of a
Speaker 5: decent person.
Speaker 4: I really much souing. I'm homeless, I'm poor. I fucking
Speaker 4: I don't what do you mean an excuse?
Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that I'm not a great person. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm homeless, I'm poor. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff in my life.
Speaker 1: When confusion failed, Jared changed his approach and he cast
Speaker 1: himself as a victim. Of course, Oh poor little Jahwait yet,
Speaker 1: Even in that shift towards self pity, this story remained inconsistent.
Speaker 4: What so you don't even know this?
Speaker 9: My dad?
Speaker 5: They were talking to this, but we need to confirm it.
Speaker 4: Before we say anything.
Speaker 6: Is so you don't know? Well, yeah, so my dad's fine.
Speaker 4: You just I don't know.
Speaker 9: You don't know. I don't know. Maybe I don't want
Speaker 9: to tell you.
Speaker 5: Say what you don't want to tell you?
Speaker 4: You have to tell me anything? Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 4: know everything in my life is fine.
Speaker 9: So it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said it shipped two minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Despite Jared's attempts to steer the conversation elsewhere, detectives kept
Speaker 1: bringing it back to his father, you know, the victim.
Speaker 1: Before long, they raised a he's an incident, one that
Speaker 1: had resulted in Jared getting arrested for assaulting his dad.
Speaker 6: So what I'm asking is I pass me off about
Speaker 6: my dad. I'm trying to figure out what set you
Speaker 6: off that day.
Speaker 2: I thought that little assault charge that they dropped because
Speaker 2: I didn't have that's worth.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was nothing.
Speaker 5: He just he's like he was like a whim.
Speaker 6: He's just called the police, but like what what why?
Speaker 5: Like he was a whim?
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, he just.
Speaker 4: He's like the first person who like jump on the
Speaker 4: phone and calling out on one.
Speaker 6: Does he like get pissed off that you aren't working
Speaker 6: as hard as you should.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything.
Speaker 4: About my dad. I don't know, Like I never knew him.
Speaker 2: Since the day I was born to now, I never
Speaker 2: knew a single thing about him because he doesn't like
Speaker 2: to share, he doesn't like communic.
Speaker 6: Hat stand offish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's in his own little egotistical world
Speaker 2: with it all revolves around him.
Speaker 4: So I can't you know, It's it's like when talking
Speaker 4: to a wall, and I.
Speaker 6: Talked to him, right, So how do you your point across?
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 4: You don't know, I just get ignored.
Speaker 1: Bringing up the recent assault shifted the tone of the interview.
Speaker 1: Jared began speaking more freely about his father, about their relationship,
Speaker 1: the tension between them. So the detectives leaned into that
Speaker 1: and let Jared continue. When somebody starts digging hand them
Speaker 1: as shovel, I mean.
Speaker 6: Some people just real like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: No matter how much you talk to him or how
Speaker 6: much you say you'm going to get in to him.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, he was frustrating, you know, trying to cooperate
Speaker 2: with somebody and they don't want to cooperate.
Speaker 6: It, and you know, well, what are you trying to
Speaker 6: collaborate on?
Speaker 4: Everything? Everything?
Speaker 2: I tried everything to cooperate and have agreement and peace,
Speaker 2: and he was not interested in.
Speaker 1: Captain Vagueness began to unload his frustrations about his father.
Speaker 1: Before long, the detectives attempted to steer the conversation towards
Speaker 1: a resolution, offering him a softer path forward. They asked
Speaker 1: him to tell them what really happened.
Speaker 9: The picture that you kind of painted. I'm kind of
Speaker 9: on your side as.
Speaker 22: To what you're going through and what your dad was
Speaker 22: putting you through and the pressures you were feeling and
Speaker 22: the personality conflict. So I didn't understand that if something
Speaker 22: happened between you guys and.
Speaker 9: It broke bad.
Speaker 19: But unless you tell us what actually happened and stop
Speaker 19: beating around the bush.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're even talking about last night.
Speaker 9: Okay, tell us what happened.
Speaker 2: It's not that hard, it's very basically what did I
Speaker 2: do last night?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the strategy didn't work. Jared retreated once again responding
Speaker 1: as though he didn't understand what detectives were asking. The
Speaker 1: conversation stalled, circling back over ground they had already covered.
Speaker 10: I want you to tell me about what you got
Speaker 10: into your most recent argument, about.
Speaker 4: Most recent argument. Why do you want to know what
Speaker 4: most recent argument was about?
Speaker 6: Because everything here revolves around your dad.
Speaker 4: Everything here, the.
Speaker 6: Reason why we're hearing the revalls are my dad.
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, you gonna tell me what happened with my dad?
Speaker 6: That's what I'm wanting you to tell me.
Speaker 4: How would I know what happened with my dad.
Speaker 17: Because you're with him?
Speaker 4: What do you mean him with him?
Speaker 6: You were with him when earlier this morning?
Speaker 1: Yet again the detectives shifted tactics. They returned to confronting
Speaker 1: Jared with the inconsistencies and his statements.
Speaker 19: So the dad who you told us earlier tonight lives
Speaker 19: with his.
Speaker 4: Mom in Ohio.
Speaker 6: I don't just listen, just listen.
Speaker 21: So your dad's mom is deceased, correct, yes, okay, so
Speaker 21: he doesn't live with her. And then you told us
Speaker 21: that you haven't had any contact with him in years,
Speaker 21: which she just pointed out a case a month ago
Speaker 21: where you were arrested because.
Speaker 5: You and him are fighting in a parking lot. And
Speaker 5: then I'll just ask you a question if you and
Speaker 5: him live in the trunk.
Speaker 9: And he said yes.
Speaker 19: And then I asked you if his stuff is in
Speaker 19: the truck and you said yes, correct?
Speaker 9: Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Why do I have to answer that?
Speaker 21: You know, that's just the serials question I'm asking that
Speaker 21: showed you're being deceitful.
Speaker 5: And you said you believe in the truth and you
Speaker 5: believe in fact.
Speaker 21: Obviously you're lying because you don't believe in the truth
Speaker 21: and you don't believe in fact.
Speaker 9: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: I just set a yes or no.
Speaker 4: You just through my head to another world.
Speaker 9: I didn't mean to do that. I apologized.
Speaker 10: He's trying to explain to you all the things that
Speaker 10: you lie about today, and I.
Speaker 4: Feel like I have to put my business out there
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 10: You know, well, when it comes to matters that are
Speaker 10: involving the police and the reason is that we're questioning you,
Speaker 10: then yeah it matters.
Speaker 9: Well, well it.
Speaker 4: May matter, but it's still you know, my business.
Speaker 2: And if I don't want to share my personal business
Speaker 2: with other people.
Speaker 4: That I don't know who aren't doing anything good.
Speaker 15: Right, But.
Speaker 2: How do you think that's going to look for you
Speaker 2: in terms of why.
Speaker 1: Next, the detectives began laying out the physical evidence. Step
Speaker 1: by step, they explained how it contradicted Jared's claim of
Speaker 1: being attacked and instead pointed to him as the attacker.
Speaker 17: Do you know what the evidence is telling me right now?
Speaker 4: You said injured the person.
Speaker 6: It's telling me that you were the aggressor?
Speaker 4: Really mm hm.
Speaker 10: So that's why I'm asking you for your side of
Speaker 10: the story. Because all the physical evidence, or by physical evidence,
Speaker 10: I mean the blood, everything else that's on, seeing the video, surveillance,
Speaker 10: your phone, everything, all of that is telling me that
Speaker 10: you were the aggressor in this situation. And without knowing
Speaker 10: the reasoning, we're kind of stuck. And I don't want
Speaker 10: to picture you as a bad person who would just
Speaker 10: go out and do something for no reason. I don't
Speaker 10: think that's the case. I think that there's a reason
Speaker 10: for what happened. But unfortunately, unless you tell us, walls
Speaker 10: were stuck with is the facts and what we're looking at.
Speaker 17: And the facts don't make you seem very good.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was injured that bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I thought I was more injured than him.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't see them get injured.
Speaker 4: I was the one on the ground. He was standing
Speaker 4: over me.
Speaker 1: Despite the evidence, Jared continued to insist that he had
Speaker 1: been attacked, not his father, but by an unknown black man.
Speaker 1: He claimed it confronted him yet again. Detectives challenged this
Speaker 1: claim immediately. Then the tone in the room shifted. Patients
Speaker 1: were thin, and this interrogation began to break down completely.
Speaker 5: So here we are back to that.
Speaker 22: When you don't feel asking answering the question, you answer
Speaker 22: the questions and you have a good dialogue with us.
Speaker 5: But when Jared gets uncomfortable and Jared.
Speaker 9: It's stupid to me, it's not stupid.
Speaker 2: Well, and again you have you have enough evidence to
Speaker 2: going to make somebody in the hurry to your people listen.
Speaker 9: So what more do you need out of me?
Speaker 5: Let me just look? Yeah, go ahead, I said it before.
Speaker 9: You don't ire No, how do you don't care?
Speaker 5: You don't care?
Speaker 9: Okay, what do you is?
Speaker 19: That's the attitude you take instead of answering the question.
Speaker 5: You laugh. I do not care about this whole situation
Speaker 5: and the person that you heard.
Speaker 2: Okay, as far as I know, I didn't hurt anyone,
Speaker 2: So tell him.
Speaker 6: I don't know how holds and care about somebody.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what you heard. You got them
Speaker 4: with altercations?
Speaker 6: Yes, I that.
Speaker 4: Person did not look injured to me. They walked away
Speaker 4: like Wally.
Speaker 5: Tell you they are okay.
Speaker 2: Then if they want to pursue charges, then I'll do here.
Speaker 6: I do care.
Speaker 9: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to injure them.
Speaker 6: This and just I have no know how did they happen?
Speaker 9: How did you injure them?
Speaker 4: I guess when we were fighting.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I want to hit him.
Speaker 9: I mean he I can tell you.
Speaker 5: The injuries aren't consistent with fighting.
Speaker 9: Did you have a weapon on you? Did you have a.
Speaker 4: Gun with you? I had four guns.
Speaker 21: Did you have any knives with you?
Speaker 4: Maybe the hundred?
Speaker 9: What kind of knights?
Speaker 17: Uh?
Speaker 4: The machetes from.
Speaker 6: The goal.
Speaker 9: Many other women.
Speaker 4: I had a laser four so it support issues the laser. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a new scientific invention.
Speaker 19: Thegan the smush, she said before the smart hell againswers.
Speaker 22: When you're sitting here, I mean if you got away articular,
Speaker 22: I asked you if you had a woman, and.
Speaker 2: I already answer you sold you know, and then you
Speaker 2: didn't take my word for you can past as you
Speaker 2: take over your work for.
Speaker 4: When you lie to us so many there won't take
Speaker 4: my word for anything. You apparently have an ividence work
Speaker 4: or do you need it?
Speaker 17: Giving you more and more chances to try and be
Speaker 17: honest with us?
Speaker 6: And we already told you a live one out of you.
Speaker 8: We want the why?
Speaker 5: Why? Why? What?
Speaker 1: Eventually the detective stepped back. The interview had reached a standstill,
Speaker 1: but before they left the room, something unexpected happened, something
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen often during a police interrogation. The suspect
Speaker 1: freely admitted that much of what he said wasn't true.
Speaker 6: All right, Jared, Right, he's for everything he told me.
Speaker 10: Today's the truth to WoT truth, nothing but the truth
Speaker 10: be God, no, no, no, I.
Speaker 9: Know'm mine.
Speaker 4: Almost things I said. I told you I was lying.
Speaker 5: Do you want to tell us anything truthful before we go?
Speaker 4: I mean not really.
Speaker 1: Jared delivered this admission calmly and casually, with an unusual confidence.
Speaker 1: He acknowledged that he had lied, but when detectives left
Speaker 1: him alone in the interrogation room, his composure didn't hold up.
Speaker 1: Jared broke down and began sobbing uncontrollably.
Speaker 15: Mm hmm, Hey, I had some noises coming out of here, right, yeah,
Speaker 15: it's gone.
Speaker 6: It's crying.
Speaker 17: No, no, there's water coming out of your eyes.
Speaker 1: Believing they were on the verge of a breakthrough, the
Speaker 1: detectives re entered the room. They tried to steady Jared
Speaker 1: with that big brother, big sister thing they do to
Speaker 1: reason with him, to guide him towards a full account
Speaker 1: of what had happened, but in this moment didn't hold.
Speaker 5: I think you're torn jar between taking responsibilities for this
Speaker 5: and not.
Speaker 4: I, Like I said, I you know, as far as
Speaker 4: I know why, I didn't do anything. So I'm going
Speaker 4: to trial.
Speaker 9: You have evident answer and.
Speaker 4: You can get an conviction, and good for you. I'm
Speaker 4: going to be going to trial, all right.
Speaker 9: That's for luck to you. Good luck to you.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The interrogation finally came to an end. Detectives had challenged Jared,
Speaker 1: pressed him, confronted him with the inconsistencies and the evidence,
Speaker 1: but without a clear admission and without enough established probable
Speaker 1: cause for murder, their options were limited. Jared was booked
Speaker 1: on a traffic offense, and then he was released after
Speaker 1: hours inside that interrogation room, after the blood, after the contradictions,
Speaker 1: Jared walked out of the station a free man. For
Speaker 1: the moment, there was nothing that law enforcement could do
Speaker 1: to stop him. On the night of February second, twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: a white Ford Explorer was pulled over in Delray Beach, Florida.
Speaker 1: The driver was twenty six year old Jared Noyman. He
Speaker 1: was calm, cooperative, and covered in blood. Jared offered shifting
Speaker 1: explanations and was eventually allowed to park his vehicle and
Speaker 1: walk away. The next morning, about ten miles from that
Speaker 1: traffic stop, inside a Boca Raton parking garage, a man
Speaker 1: was found stabbed to death. Detectives recovered a broken knife
Speaker 1: near his body and a trail of bloody footprints leading
Speaker 1: away from the scene. The victim was identified as fifty
Speaker 1: nine year old j Neuman. He was Jared's father. By
Speaker 1: the time detectives brought Jared in for questioning, they believe
Speaker 1: the evidence pointed directly at him. Inside the interrogation room,
Speaker 1: Jared deflected, he contradicted himself. He blamed a stranger he
Speaker 1: broke down, but without a clear admission and without enough
Speaker 1: to establish probable cause for murder, Detectives were forced to
Speaker 1: release him. For a brief time, Jared Neuman was a
Speaker 1: free man, but then something unexpected happened. The following day,
Speaker 1: Jared returned to the Boca Ratan Police Department and asked
Speaker 1: to speak with detectives again.
Speaker 6: He said, you wanted to talk to me? Yeah, what's uh?
Speaker 2: I would just I would like to confess to the
Speaker 2: murder of my father.
Speaker 6: Okay, I appreciate you coming in and man enough and
Speaker 6: saying that.
Speaker 1: Jared didn't only return to the police station. He came
Speaker 1: back to confess to killing his father, and when he
Speaker 1: began speaking, he gave detectives what they had been trying
Speaker 1: to uncover since the beginning. Jared told them, why, I think.
Speaker 4: I just had a huge lapse of judgment.
Speaker 9: My dad.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to make excuses for why
Speaker 4: I did what I did, because there's no excuse sort.
Speaker 4: But I was very stressed out and unhappy.
Speaker 23: My dad would constantly disrespect me, and I felt like
Speaker 23: I was being bullied and harassed. And when I was
Speaker 23: in jail, in prison and around all these like criminalized people,
Speaker 23: they'd always talked about how when people do bad things
Speaker 23: to you. You have to stand up for yourself, and
Speaker 23: you have to usually, you know, retaliate with violence, and
Speaker 23: has been so grated into my head that I was
Speaker 23: consistently on it because it's a basis thinking about violence
Speaker 23: when people were mean to me and I didn't know
Speaker 23: how to make them stop otherwise.
Speaker 2: You know, my dad would always call the police on
Speaker 2: me if I got violent towards him, like physically, and
Speaker 2: then you know, it just got to a point where
Speaker 2: I was like, the only way to make.
Speaker 4: His stop is to do this, and.
Speaker 9: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 5: I didn't know what he didn't deserve that.
Speaker 4: I just didn't know.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know what I did until it was
Speaker 2: it was over and I realized what I did.
Speaker 9: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what the hell did I just do?
Speaker 1: Like, as Jared explained why he killed his father, his
Speaker 1: tone was much different than a day ago. The defiance,
Speaker 1: the guarded answers were gone and their place was something else,
Speaker 1: whether it was remorse, guilt, or simply exhaustion. It sounded real.
Speaker 5: I didn't deserve that.
Speaker 23: I mean, it wasn't the nicest person to me, But
Speaker 23: I don't think he deserved to die like that.
Speaker 4: It was horrible. I mean remember every second of all.
Speaker 4: If you didn't do that, it just felt like I
Speaker 4: was pushed too far and I just I just reacted
Speaker 4: in a bad way.
Speaker 1: After Jared explained why, the detectives turned to the details,
Speaker 1: asking him to walk them through exactly what had happened
Speaker 1: between him and his father.
Speaker 10: Does he always sleep outside of the car and you
Speaker 10: sleep in the car even when it's cold out.
Speaker 2: I mean he usually either takes two blankets or he'll
Speaker 2: like sleep in this like corridor spot.
Speaker 6: Okay. Where so where was the car park.
Speaker 2: Just like on the first floor, and where was he
Speaker 2: sleeping at? He was upstairs on like the one of
Speaker 2: the higher floors.
Speaker 10: Okay, So what happened that let out take me to
Speaker 10: be likely what happened?
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing really like happened that made that happen.
Speaker 2: It is just like something i'd been like I just
Speaker 2: thought of, you know, It's just like kind of just
Speaker 2: came over me.
Speaker 1: Jared admitted he had been contemplating his father's death for
Speaker 1: some time, and on a cold February night, he put
Speaker 1: that thought into motion.
Speaker 6: I know this art it's hard.
Speaker 17: To talk about, but can you tell me exactly what
Speaker 17: you did to him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was sleeping and.
Speaker 3: I walked up and I had a knife in my hand,
Speaker 3: and I think the blanket was over his head and
Speaker 3: I pulled a blanket off, and I think I started
Speaker 3: stabbing him in.
Speaker 4: The throat like blood like, you know, telling me to
Speaker 4: stop like and I didn't you know what I said. No,
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was doing at all, you know.
Speaker 4: And he fell on the.
Speaker 2: Ground as a boy, and you know, I started choking
Speaker 2: him and I just told him just.
Speaker 4: To go to sleep, you know, to stop fighting. Just
Speaker 4: go to sleep. I sold him life, to leave his
Speaker 4: eyes and everything.
Speaker 1: Jared described the attack as sudden, chaotic, and bloody. He
Speaker 1: stabbed his father repeatedly. There was a brief struggle in
Speaker 1: the end was overpowered. The assault was so forceful that
Speaker 1: the blade of the knife eventually snapped from its handle.
Speaker 6: What where'd the knife that you used? How did you
Speaker 6: get that?
Speaker 3: I bought the Dollar's door that day or earlier that day,
Speaker 3: Earlier that day, So.
Speaker 6: You went in there and you bought that knife? Did
Speaker 6: you buy anything else with.
Speaker 4: It at the dollar store?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 23: I bought like a bunch of trash bags and some gloves.
Speaker 10: When you went to the dollar store initially to buy
Speaker 10: the knife, is that what you were thinking.
Speaker 4: About, Well, that's why I bought the knife via to.
Speaker 17: Kill your dad.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By jared'sn't account, this killing wasn't spontaneous. He admitted to
Speaker 1: planning it, and he even admitted to thinking about the
Speaker 1: better option, which would have been to simply walk away
Speaker 1: from his father and start over somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And it was hard to decide that to just deal
Speaker 2: with things.
Speaker 4: But I told myself, you know, like maybe I.
Speaker 2: Just need to work hard and do the right thing
Speaker 2: and you know, and just like just move out when uh,
Speaker 2: you know, when the time comes, and then I can
Speaker 2: buy all.
Speaker 4: My own stuff.
Speaker 24: You know, I don't have to do anything to him
Speaker 24: and take his stuff, and you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, like's just something like it's just something.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I ended up going back in there
Speaker 2: and just decided to buy the stuff anyway, and I
Speaker 2: just put it in the car.
Speaker 1: As Jared continued explaining his reasoning and his thought process,
Speaker 1: the grievances he described began to feel smaller. He characterized
Speaker 1: his father as abusive, harsh, controlling, and difficult to live with,
Speaker 1: But when pressed for specifics, the examples he offered painted
Speaker 1: a picture that was much less extreme.
Speaker 4: Like in all, honestly, I like I was.
Speaker 2: I was tired of, you know, kind of being like
Speaker 2: woking up early in.
Speaker 4: The mornings and you know, kind of being stressed out.
Speaker 2: And I made me honest, I thought things like, oh, like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I kill him, I'll just be able
Speaker 2: to like take the car and just like be able
Speaker 2: to sleep, and you know, my life will be better.
Speaker 4: It'll be free, and I won't have to deal with
Speaker 4: this anymore.
Speaker 2: And stupid shit like that, you know, you know, I
Speaker 2: you know, I tried everything I knew how to do,
Speaker 2: and this was the only thing I didn't try, so
Speaker 2: I thought it was my only option.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize what I was doing.
Speaker 1: Jared and his father were living out of a forward explorer.
Speaker 1: At night, Jared slept inside the vehicle and his father
Speaker 1: often slept outside, but Jay had to wake up early
Speaker 1: for work. When he did, he would wake Jared up
Speaker 1: as well, start the engine and drive to a painting job.
Speaker 1: Jared resented that he didn't want to be woken up.
Speaker 1: He wanted to sleep all day, and over time that
Speaker 1: resentment deepened into something very dark. Jared saw only one
Speaker 1: way out for some reason, so he decided to kill
Speaker 1: his father, and as part of that plan, he even
Speaker 1: went as far as to dig a shallow grave.
Speaker 2: Actually, I did you know about one am, I went
Speaker 2: over to the beach and actually tried to dig a
Speaker 2: hole that I was.
Speaker 4: Going to put his body in. It was right out
Speaker 4: on the beach by some grass. There's like a huge hole.
Speaker 5: I go, okay, And.
Speaker 6: Was it within view of people the whole Well, it.
Speaker 2: Was you know, dark house sticks though I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone really saw it, but like by morning, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they would have seen it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: After digging a grave on the beach, Jared returned to
Speaker 1: the parking garage where his father was sleeping. By then,
Speaker 1: the decision to kill had already been made.
Speaker 10: So after that, where you go once you give up
Speaker 10: on digging the hole?
Speaker 4: I think I just went straight to him.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: I went to the car and I waited a little
Speaker 2: bit because my.
Speaker 4: Arms were hurting hi from digging the hole.
Speaker 2: And then I just I just was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: you know, it's time, basically, and I went up and
Speaker 2: I just kind of did it?
Speaker 10: And when you walked up to him, when you first
Speaker 10: walked up to him, was it slow or fast?
Speaker 2: Or I think a kind of moved like not like
Speaker 2: slow slope, but kind of like kind of creeped up
Speaker 2: on my guess.
Speaker 1: Jared approached his father barefoot, hoping not to wake him.
Speaker 1: In his hand was the dollar store knife he had
Speaker 1: purchased earlier. Then Jared struck.
Speaker 10: Do you remember where you hit him with a knife first,
Speaker 10: right in his neck?
Speaker 6: And he was sleeping when you when that first sat when.
Speaker 10: You first said he was sleeping okay? And did he
Speaker 10: wake up immediately when that happened?
Speaker 6: Did he say anything to you?
Speaker 10: He told me to stop, okay, did he say anything else?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't remember, well, I don't
Speaker 4: think so.
Speaker 6: Was there a lot of blood?
Speaker 13: What happened up?
Speaker 17: Do you used to have him the first time?
Speaker 4: He jumped up and was screaming, so he stood up?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he jumped up really fast and like started
Speaker 2: trying to fight me off and he was telling me
Speaker 2: Jared stop, I you know, I said no?
Speaker 10: And did you just stab him the one time? They
Speaker 10: get back up or did you hit him a.
Speaker 6: Couple of times.
Speaker 4: I hit him a couple of times.
Speaker 10: Do you know if you had to guess how many
Speaker 10: times would you think that you hit him?
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what I would say several, So,
Speaker 2: I mean maybe like I couldn't even count at least
Speaker 2: four or five.
Speaker 10: Four or five times stabbed him and it was that
Speaker 10: when it was all in the neck area, or I
Speaker 10: think so, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: An autopsy later determined that Jay Norman had been stabbed
Speaker 1: twenty seven times, and the wounds were not confined to
Speaker 1: his neck. They were spread across his body.
Speaker 6: So it got dropped.
Speaker 2: No, the knife broke, Oh it broke, yeah, and uh
Speaker 2: so the pieces just fell over.
Speaker 10: When that first time when you stabbed him a couple
Speaker 10: of times, when did where did the other stabs come?
Speaker 2: If the knife broke, I actually stabbed him a couple
Speaker 2: of times with the broken knife.
Speaker 6: With the broken knife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a little piece left, but I
Speaker 2: kept stabbing him.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: During the attack, Jay tried to fight off his son.
Speaker 1: Defensive wounds on his body confirmed there had been a struggle,
Speaker 1: but in the end, Jared, the son, overpowered the father.
Speaker 6: And then what happens now that you're both standing.
Speaker 4: For so many mechanics.
Speaker 2: I remember this part, but at some point we both
Speaker 2: ended up on the ground and I was on top
Speaker 2: of him choking.
Speaker 6: Him, and then what happens and just kept.
Speaker 2: Telling go to sleep, And so I don't remember everything
Speaker 2: I said. I just remember saying that he was very
Speaker 2: cruel to me.
Speaker 24: And you know, I think I remember I said I
Speaker 24: didn't want to do this.
Speaker 4: To him, and that it was that I said.
Speaker 24: He was very cruel to me, and I probably said
Speaker 24: a couple other things, but I don't remember what that
Speaker 24: was really until passed away.
Speaker 1: Jane Norman's final moments were violent and horrific. While bleeding
Speaker 1: out from more than two dozen stab wounds, the last
Speaker 1: thing he saw was his own son choking him to death.
Speaker 1: Burn that image into the back of your retna. Imagine
Speaker 1: seeing your own son choking the life out of you.
Speaker 6: How did you know that he was dead?
Speaker 4: I saw the life of his eyes.
Speaker 17: Okay, did you see him breathing at all?
Speaker 2: It's not like he was breathing, but like his body
Speaker 2: was like reacting, like like it was like trying to
Speaker 2: have air or something. I kept I thought, I thought,
Speaker 2: maybe it's still alive. So I kept like forcing his
Speaker 2: windpipe down. And but then I realized, like when I
Speaker 2: took my hands off, it was just his body like
Speaker 2: doing something, that he was dead, and like I took
Speaker 2: my hands off and like a huge amount of hair
Speaker 2: like sucked into him.
Speaker 4: I got off with him.
Speaker 1: After killing his father, Jared abandoned his plan to move
Speaker 1: the body to the beach. It was a pretty fucking
Speaker 1: dumb plan to begin with, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: like to go to the beach. It's a very populated area,
Speaker 1: so probably not a great place to bury a body.
Speaker 1: And again this homeless city, it was a homeless city.
Speaker 1: So he simply fled the scene, leaving Jay where he
Speaker 1: had fallen. Evidence and all the crime would not be
Speaker 1: discovered until the following morning, but that was soon enough.
Speaker 2: I tried to use the trash bag, but then I
Speaker 2: just like I saw across the apartment that there was
Speaker 2: a light on, and I didn't know if I was being
Speaker 2: washed or something.
Speaker 4: So I got really scared and I just said, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't be here or something like that. And then
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 2: In in the in the car and just you know,
Speaker 2: I took these keys and I got in the car
Speaker 2: and just took off immediately and then yeah, and then
Speaker 2: I just started heading north and then that's when the
Speaker 2: del Rey police stopped me and saw the blood all
Speaker 2: over me.
Speaker 7: Hey, there amongst us was the reason why I pulled
Speaker 7: you over.
Speaker 5: You know't have any lights on? Are you okay, bod?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had a movie.
Speaker 5: Are you sure you don't need paramatics or anything.
Speaker 1: After pulling Jared over and finding him covered in blood,
Speaker 1: Delray Beach police allowed him to walk away. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: be arrested or questioned about his father's death until after
Speaker 1: Jay's body was discovered. During that initial interview, Jared lied
Speaker 1: repeatedly as detectives pressed him for the truth and tried
Speaker 1: to uncover a motive. But the following day, he returned
Speaker 1: to the police station, and this time he explained why
Speaker 1: he did it.
Speaker 6: You're upset because he wanted to wait here up in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I just I didn't
Speaker 4: want to get up.
Speaker 2: Like he was saying, like you know that, you know,
Speaker 2: he needs to go to work and stuff.
Speaker 4: He was, oh right, he was.
Speaker 2: Talking about like okay, well if you don't want to
Speaker 2: get woken up, just sleep outside, you know, and you
Speaker 2: take the blankets I said, no, I.
Speaker 4: Can't do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I said it's too cold, I can't do it.
Speaker 2: And then he said, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: God at this point really.
Speaker 4: Was for some reason. He said, you know, what would
Speaker 4: you make your happy?
Speaker 2: Bodes left outside, and I just said yeah.
Speaker 1: This confession eventually ended and detectives left the room. Jared
Speaker 1: remained seated at the table. The camera is still recording
Speaker 1: alone in the interrogation room. He began to speak out loud,
Speaker 1: not to the detectives but to his father after.
Speaker 11: Hearing all that, I'm sure you very furious. I don't
Speaker 11: have an excuse, so I saw then I don't know. Sure,
Speaker 11: you're very angry. He can be mad at me. I
Speaker 11: did what's wrong and stupid. I should never did that.
Speaker 11: I have to forget me. It was wrong, very wrong.
Speaker 11: I turned myself in, Okay.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to do what I can do. May
Speaker 4: come before you, though, I can make joy.
Speaker 23: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I was so sick.
Speaker 1: A short time later, Jared was escorted out of the
Speaker 1: interrogation room and formally booked on murder charges.
Speaker 20: Twenty six year old Jared Neuman is now charged with
Speaker 20: first degree murder after the police say he turned himself
Speaker 20: into day and confessed to murdering his father in this
Speaker 20: parking garage Monday morning. Police also say surveillance video identified
Speaker 20: Neyman as a suspect. Police say Noyman confessed to stabbing
Speaker 20: and strangling his father as he slept because he did
Speaker 20: not like the way his father treated him. Neuman remains
Speaker 20: in jail for premeditated first degree murder with no bond.
Speaker 20: He's scheduled to appear in court Thursday morning.
Speaker 1: After his arrest, Jared's legal battle began. Any remorse he
Speaker 1: had expressed during his confession faded away as he entered
Speaker 1: a plea not guilty, much like any sympathy you may
Speaker 1: have had for him should have faded away after learning
Speaker 1: that this manipulative sociopath murdered his own father, admitted to it,
Speaker 1: and rather than accept responsibility and take punishment, he pleads
Speaker 1: not guilty because why not waste a bunch of taxpayer money.
Speaker 1: Also at trial, Jared claimed he had killed his father
Speaker 1: in self defense. That claim unraveled during cross examination.
Speaker 5: Your statement on the polices so different than it is today,
Speaker 5: right a little bit?
Speaker 13: Well, now you're saying you bought a knife or self defense, right,
Speaker 13: so you can kill your father in self defense?
Speaker 5: What you bought the knife?
Speaker 6: I wanted to protect myself, yes, So.
Speaker 4: You planned out this self defense where you were.
Speaker 13: Purchasing a knife in anticipation of self if I needed to, Yeah,
Speaker 13: and you bought trash bags and self dedaia I did.
Speaker 18: Well, no was thinking it, but if that happened, I
Speaker 18: would like I was like stupid, and I was thinking
Speaker 18: there was.
Speaker 5: Like a way to like hide this body, but it
Speaker 5: wasn't right.
Speaker 13: You're gonna hide a body in self defense too, that's part.
Speaker 5: Of the play.
Speaker 18: Well, if I kill somebody's self defense, I don't want like,
Speaker 18: you know, you gotta hide this body somewhere, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like I did your.
Speaker 13: Bod gloves to defend yourself as well.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I didn't want to leave fingerprints.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 5: You don't want to get caught when you killed when
Speaker 5: you killed them in self defense, right, right? You donne
Speaker 5: a whole of the beach in self defense. Right?
Speaker 18: That was like stupid, but I guess yeah, I was
Speaker 18: like thinking, uh that I could have buried him, but
Speaker 18: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to do that.
Speaker 1: During the trial, prosecutors argued that Jared's claim of self
Speaker 1: defense was a lot because it was a story constructed
Speaker 1: after the fact to avoid responsibility. They told jurors the
Speaker 1: evidence showed something much more deliberate. Jared had grown resentful
Speaker 1: of his father, planned the killing meticulously, and then carried
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 13: Hours upon hours of conversations with police officers, telling them
Speaker 13: what happened in all these lives?
Speaker 17: Right?
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, and.
Speaker 13: The first time you came up with this story was today,
Speaker 13: five years after you murdered your father.
Speaker 4: Right, I just might have said it differently.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, when did you.
Speaker 9: Make up the story about what you just When did it.
Speaker 18: Come to you in your mind to make up the story.
Speaker 18: It's not a story I made up. I mean, I
Speaker 18: was just not telling the police everything.
Speaker 9: Feel like you're dead? No, right?
Speaker 4: Hated you dead, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 1: Prosecutors also emphasized a critical detail. When Jay Noyman was attacked,
Speaker 1: he was asleep. They argued that fact alone undermined any
Speaker 1: claim of self defense. You can't get attacked by someone
Speaker 1: who unconscious. Didn't we learn that from the door dash girl?
Speaker 5: When you stabbed him with the knife, he wasn't awake.
Speaker 13: Right, yes, eyes were closed, yes, and you took off
Speaker 13: your shoes so that he wouldn't hear.
Speaker 5: You coming right, yes, And do you remember telling the
Speaker 5: police that.
Speaker 9: He told you stop? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I remember that, yeah, right, and you didn't stop.
Speaker 22: No.
Speaker 13: You stabbed them multiple times, yes, some of them to
Speaker 13: his back.
Speaker 5: Because I'm back. When you stabbed someone in.
Speaker 4: The back, that's not self defense, right, If.
Speaker 18: You were trying to defend yourself and you had to
Speaker 18: like keep hitting them, maybe hit them in the back
Speaker 18: by accident.
Speaker 5: Defend yourself from a sleeping man?
Speaker 18: Uh no, No, but I mean if it was like
Speaker 18: situation where somebody.
Speaker 13: Was doing defended yourself from a person that's asleep on
Speaker 13: the ground.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, the jury sided with prosecutters and returned to guilty verdict.
Speaker 1: Jared was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to
Speaker 1: life in prison for killing his father.
Speaker 5: What happened to your dad that things kind of spiral?
Speaker 9: Then you and him are living out of his truck together.
Speaker 9: Did he just have a bad turn of events? Business
Speaker 9: went bad?
Speaker 21: What was the You can ask him, But that's kind
Speaker 21: of They're going from having a business and a condo
Speaker 21: and that to you guys living out of the same truck.
Speaker 9: It's kind of.
Speaker 4: That's that's his problem.
Speaker 9: I'm saying it's a problem.
Speaker 21: I'm just curious as to did he mismanage his money,
Speaker 21: did someone take advantage of him drugs with alcohol, bad luck?
Speaker 4: I'm not that involved.
Speaker 1: It's unclear how or why j Noyman ultimately found himself
Speaker 1: living out of a Ford Explorer with his son. What
Speaker 1: we do know was that life inside that vehicle wasn't
Speaker 1: easy for either of them. Living in such close quarters
Speaker 1: is hard. The space is small, the privacy nonexistent. Every
Speaker 1: little frustration lingers a bit longer when there's nowhere to
Speaker 1: escape it. By all accounts, Jay was trying to make
Speaker 1: it work. Friends had offered him a place to stay
Speaker 1: away out, but he refused. He knew his son was
Speaker 1: struggling and he didn't want to leave him alone. At
Speaker 1: the same time, Jay understood that Jared could be violent
Speaker 1: and volatile. Moving his son into a friend's home simply
Speaker 1: wasn't an option, so Jay chose another path. He continued
Speaker 1: living out of his vehicle alongside his son. That kind
Speaker 1: of loyalty is difficult to measure. It's the quiet, stubborn
Speaker 1: kind of love that doesn't disappear when things get messy,
Speaker 1: the kind that stays, even when staying is the hardest
Speaker 1: thing on earth. Jay chose to remain with his son. Tragically,
Speaker 1: his son chose something else. In the end. This wasn't
Speaker 1: a crime born of imminent danger or desperate survival. It
Speaker 1: was a calculated decision rooted in resentment, in small grievances
Speaker 1: that were allowed to grow unchecked, dealt with by an
Speaker 1: emotionally immature idiot. Jay Neuman stayed with his child when
Speaker 1: others might have walked away, and that choice cost him
Speaker 1: his life. Some people spend their entire life searching for
Speaker 1: unconditional love. J Noyman died by giving it. Well, that
Speaker 1: does it for another tragedy. I don't know why you
Speaker 1: guys listen to this stuff, but I guess it's nothing new.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Greeks loved their tragedy, right, So not
Speaker 1: much has changed in thousands of years. I don't suspect
Speaker 1: much will change in thousands of years. So until next week,
Speaker 1: stay safe, usual
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