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<v Speaker 1>Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and just

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<v Speaker 1>not intended for all audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a nice in my hand, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>the blanket was over his head, and I pulled the

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<v Speaker 3>blanket off.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I started stabbing him in the throat.

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<v Speaker 5>I sold it lifely his eyes and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put the videos in a higher tier, and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys complain. So after a while I bring it

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<v Speaker 1>down and I make it available to the lowest tier available,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the guys in the higher tiers complain. And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, no matter what I do this year,

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<v Speaker 1>you've all woken up in twenty twenty six with something

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<v Speaker 1>shoved up firmly up your ass. It's like everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>on their period or something. Yeah, I said it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like. From my end, I get it from

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<v Speaker 1>every one of you. All of you complain to me

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason as if I give a shit. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I do give a shit. I do want you

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy the show and what I'm producing here, but

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta stop. I'm gonna produce whatever I'm gonna produce.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one deciding that, as the creator of this

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<v Speaker 1>program and you can like it or you can not

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<v Speaker 1>like it. And that's why there's a million choices available online.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just go to something else you'll like. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to attack me personally and you know, try

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<v Speaker 1>to dig up secrets about me and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to ruin my life and all that shit, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is that? What's wrong?

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<v Speaker 6>Would you be?

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<v Speaker 1>Grow? Ah Buca Raton, Florida, sits on the Atlantic Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>manicured neighborhoods, gated communities, palm line streets, a sun drenched

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<v Speaker 1>tropical paradise where tourists find it easy to forget that

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<v Speaker 1>life just kind of happens here, and residents have to

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<v Speaker 1>get a move on with their routine and get things done.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few miles north, in the smaller city of

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<v Speaker 1>Delray Beach, that routine continued on the night of February two,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Traffic moved through intersections, patrol cars idled at lights.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing was unusual, that is, until the traffic cop pulled

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<v Speaker 1>over a white Ford Explorer.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gonna be the eleven hundred block South Federal, so

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<v Speaker 7>I Ford Explored reference snow lights. Can you put your

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<v Speaker 7>hands on the little body okay, hey, there almost just

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<v Speaker 7>was the reason why.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh I pulled you over?

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<v Speaker 8>You don't have any lights on?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Tuck behind the wheel was a man in his mid twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't appear intoxicated. His speech was steady, his demeanor calm.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, he seemed apologetic. But something about him stopped

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<v Speaker 1>the officer cold. His face, his chest, his hands were

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<v Speaker 1>all spattered with blood.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you okay on?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I just had a note lead?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you share?

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<v Speaker 5>You don't need paramax anything? Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you able to turn your lights on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Are you sure you didn't get like beat up or anything?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I just had a nosebleed. I get him all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, do you have your license on your body?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't actually, but I have my Yeah? Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 4>you have your idea?

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<v Speaker 1>The strange man with a nosebleed handed over his license,

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<v Speaker 1>which identified him as twenty six year old Jared Noyman.

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<v Speaker 1>As the officer returned to his patrol car to run

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<v Speaker 1>Jared's information, another unit pulled up. The second officer immediately

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<v Speaker 1>noticed the blood.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got blood all over his face. You seal the

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<v Speaker 5>blood on his face?

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<v Speaker 1>Say he's headed like that dude, it is no fucking.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why I was like, bro, you need have to

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<v Speaker 7>be okay, got a fight, Like no, I just had

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<v Speaker 7>a real.

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<v Speaker 5>Bad, none oly shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for Jared, the blood wasn't the only issue. When

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<v Speaker 1>officers ran Jared's information, they discovered something else. Driver's license,

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<v Speaker 1>which was actually a learner's permit, had expired.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, so I'll say you know that your license

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<v Speaker 7>isn't good.

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<v Speaker 10>This is not good.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been expired since twenty sixteen, and it's a E

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<v Speaker 7>class learners, which means you're supposed to have someone twenty

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<v Speaker 7>one or older that's licensed with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so I didn't know it was about eight.

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<v Speaker 7>It's fine. I'm only giving you a citation. You do

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<v Speaker 7>have to show up to court. You just take your

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<v Speaker 7>indu back. You just got a sign saying that you're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna show up, all right, and you can keep my

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<v Speaker 7>pen because you're.

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<v Speaker 9>Covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer issued a citation for the expired license and

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<v Speaker 1>told Jared that he could not drive away. He would

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<v Speaker 1>need to call someone to pick him up.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna tell you this, You're not allowed to drive, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm gonna pol over the thing again.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I suggest.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, listen, you're an adult. You get caught driving, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's started going to show that you got a court tate,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. So they're gonna they're not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna give you any breaks, just gonna arrest.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, the officers returned to questions about the blood. By

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<v Speaker 1>now they had noticed the scratches, the small cuts on

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<v Speaker 1>Jared's hands and forearms. They knew that all the blood

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<v Speaker 1>did not come from a nose bleed.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what else to tell you besides how to.

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<v Speaker 5>The butt all over your toes and it's like you

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<v Speaker 5>bathe the blood.

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<v Speaker 9>That's not just a note.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're part of something actively bleeding from your elbows,

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<v Speaker 7>so it's not just the nose.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh yeah, just quick.

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<v Speaker 1>After stepping out of the vehicle, Jared changed his story.

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<v Speaker 1>He admitted the blood hadn't come from his nose.

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<v Speaker 8>From the blood all of your feet, it wouldn't run from.

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<v Speaker 4>The nose your feet. They're bleeding from the elbows currently.

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<v Speaker 5>The knuckles are bleeding.

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<v Speaker 9>So what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>For real?

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta fight with somebody and they they hit me

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<v Speaker 4>and beat up.

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<v Speaker 7>Where this is happening in Boca.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you want to report this?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's no big deal to me. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 4>beat the shit out of me pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's this person?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know him like that. He was just

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<v Speaker 4>somebody it was arguing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>After hearing his new explanation, the officers requested EMTs to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene and asked them to do a basic check

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<v Speaker 1>up on Jared. At the same time, they contacted Boca

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<v Speaker 1>Raton Dispatch to check for any reports of a fight.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, it's Alcor Smith with del REPETI. Hey, I just

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<v Speaker 7>pulled over a guy. His name's Jared Neuman. He said

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<v Speaker 7>he got into a fight in Boca with somebody. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>trying to see if you guys have any batteries recently

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<v Speaker 7>that you're looking for this dude.

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<v Speaker 5>He was covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 1>The Boca Raton Dispatch reported no recent calls about a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>No one there. I was looking for Jared. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Delray officers had a decision to make. What should they

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<v Speaker 1>do with Jared and what should they do with this

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<v Speaker 1>Ford explorer?

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<v Speaker 7>Or I got to tow the car And it looks

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<v Speaker 7>like you're living in you work out of it, So

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<v Speaker 7>are you able to call somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really not Can you please like not totally.

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<v Speaker 5>Call That's what I'm saying. If you can call somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>An if you take that car, I have nothing, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be sleeping on.

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<v Speaker 7>I understand that, but it's also a liability on me.

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<v Speaker 7>If I knowingly let you leave with the car and

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<v Speaker 7>then something happens, it looks bad on me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna happen. I'm just going to pull over in

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<v Speaker 5>the nearest spot.

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<v Speaker 4>It just that's it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared pleaded with the officers not to tow his vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>He told them he worked out of it, lived out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. It was all he had, So the officers

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a break. They allowed him to move the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle to a nearby parking lot on the condition that

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't drive again until has expired licensed situation was resolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared agreed, and just like that, he was free to go.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, about ten miles south in Boca Ratan,

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<v Speaker 1>a parking garage employee arrived for work and discovered something

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<v Speaker 1>waiting outside, something horrible.

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<v Speaker 12>He comes up the.

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<v Speaker 1>Show for work.

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<v Speaker 12>He comes up the ramp, he sees the black peg

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<v Speaker 12>right on the other side of that pillar.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a black peg.

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<v Speaker 12>Don't know if it's connected enough, but he sees it,

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<v Speaker 12>and well, he didn't see the blood Yetcause he's in

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<v Speaker 12>his car. He sees the bag, and he's been here

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<v Speaker 12>for like fifteen years, so he's used to seeing homeless

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<v Speaker 12>people here. So right away you say, no, there's a

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<v Speaker 12>homeless guy in here somewhere. Makes the turn as he's

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<v Speaker 12>coming up the ramp. He's looking straight at that. He

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<v Speaker 12>sees that, doesn't know what condition he's and he sees

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<v Speaker 12>the blood. She shoots up top, parks the car, walks down,

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<v Speaker 12>sees him and calls nine one one.

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<v Speaker 13>What's the location of your emergency?

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<v Speaker 8>It is in the parking ride of one South Ocean

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<v Speaker 8>Boulevard in Boca ratone. There is a dead gentleman here

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<v Speaker 8>with a knife wound, blood all over the place, and

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<v Speaker 8>he is dead, not breathing. Yep, he is dead.

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<v Speaker 13>Is he in a car?

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<v Speaker 5>No, He's laying on the ground.

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<v Speaker 8>Is he white black or Hispanic white?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 8>The handle is right by his head and the nice

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<v Speaker 8>part of about though, four feet away from him on

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<v Speaker 8>the ground. And where is the staff? When I'm there's

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<v Speaker 8>blood around his head and shoulders and there is there

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<v Speaker 8>any kind of car around him? No, there's no car.

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<v Speaker 8>It looks like a homeless person because he had his

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<v Speaker 8>mats here and his coat and his flip floped sandals,

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<v Speaker 8>and nobody else is around. Did you see anybody going

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<v Speaker 8>to leave as you were coming in? No?

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<v Speaker 13>No.

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<v Speaker 1>After the parking garage worker discovered what appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>a homeless man stabbed at death, he called nine one

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<v Speaker 1>one and detectives quickly arrived. What they found was an

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<v Speaker 1>area saturated with blood and clear signs of a very

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<v Speaker 1>brutal attack.

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<v Speaker 12>Almost looks like he was sleeping there and got attacked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>all right, stay back over here, because you got some

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<v Speaker 12>blood over here, I got footprints here. Just please watched

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<v Speaker 12>the stairs, blood footprints coming away from him, don't so? Yeah, please.

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<v Speaker 1>As detectives processed the scene, they noticed a trail of

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<v Speaker 1>bloody footprints leading away from the body. It didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>They assumed the homeless man had been sleeping in the

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<v Speaker 1>Nearby detectives also recover a murder weapon, a cheap knife, long,

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<v Speaker 5>Knife still up there and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>After several hours, the body was removed from the parking

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<v Speaker 1>word began to spread the local media reported that a

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<v Speaker 1>Residents woke up to the news of a violent crime

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<v Speaker 14>Bogertrump police closed off the One Ocean Plaza parking garage

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<v Speaker 14>on Monday as they investigated how a man ended up

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<v Speaker 14>dead with a knife wound. This section of A one

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<v Speaker 14>Hopes it's an isolated incident.

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<v Speaker 7>It could be something odd, because I wouldn't anticipate.

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<v Speaker 15>That this would be the norm, because this is a very,

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<v Speaker 14>And as of right now, Boca Raton police haven't released

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<v Speaker 14>any information about who the victim is and their death

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<v Speaker 1>For a moment, the Boca Ratan police had no suspect,

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<v Speaker 1>no name, no clear direction, just a body in a

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<v Speaker 1>What they didn't know, what no one in Boca Ratan knew,

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<v Speaker 1>was just a few hours earlier, Adelray Beach traffic cop

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<v Speaker 1>had already stopped the man responsible for this murder. He

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<v Speaker 1>had blood on his face, on his chest, on his hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just let him go. On the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>February third, twenty twenty, Boca Raton detectives were investigating a

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<v Speaker 1>fatal stabbing inside a parking lot. A man had been

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<v Speaker 1>found dead, bloody footprints led away from the scene. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no suspect in custody. Just hours earlier, in a

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<v Speaker 1>Explorer driven by a young man covered in blood. The

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<v Speaker 1>two encounters had not been connected yet, but that wouldn't last.

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<v Speaker 1>After reviewing surveillance and processing the scene, detectives began zeroing

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six year old Jared Neuman, and it didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>long for Boca Raton police to find him. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared was behind the wheel of a white Ford Explorer,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time when officers pulled him over, they approached

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<v Speaker 6>Burn your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 16>Off, driver, roll down your window, river lake, your hands

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<v Speaker 16>outside of the vehicle. Full hands outside of the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 16>full pands, keeping your hands outside of the vehicle, use

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<v Speaker 1>During this traffic stop, Jared was taken into custody without insident.

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<v Speaker 1>His explorer was seized and Jared was brought into the

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<v Speaker 1>police station where two homicide detectives were waiting to question him.

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<v Speaker 10>So, your first name was Jared, right in your last

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<v Speaker 10>name theoymany An?

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<v Speaker 17>And what's your birthday?

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<v Speaker 4>One sixteen ninety four?

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<v Speaker 6>And you have an address? No? Where do you currently stay? At?

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<v Speaker 9>My car?

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<v Speaker 6>In your car?

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<v Speaker 17>What kind of car is up for deploys?

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<v Speaker 6>It registered too?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, you been doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>In the car a couple of years now. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a job though, I'm trying to get a place.

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<v Speaker 5>So I heard you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like like a restaurant and firehouse huves?

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<v Speaker 17>Oh good here in the city.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, do you like it?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't particular who like it? Put a need to money,

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<v Speaker 4>so make sure I go every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Before outright addressing their murder investigation, the detectives took their

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<v Speaker 1>time and began the interview by asking Jared about his background.

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<v Speaker 6>You said your.

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<v Speaker 10>Parents had a divorce when you or twelve, but then

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<v Speaker 10>but then you lived with mom.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you stayed in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>When did you move down here.

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<v Speaker 4>In Florida when I was eighteen?

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<v Speaker 17>You're eighteen, okay? And who did you stay with what

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<v Speaker 17>you got down here.

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<v Speaker 4>I just moved down here. I stayed with by myself in.

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<v Speaker 6>Like an apartment, a house.

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<v Speaker 4>Or like I was just gonna stay in my car.

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<v Speaker 1>From the start, something about Jared's responses felt a little off.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't appear nervous or confused, but his answers were

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<v Speaker 1>guarded and they didn't always add up. Follow Up questions

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<v Speaker 1>about his background often contradicted details he had just mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>moments earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>So your parents don't lived together, right, Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>Do you see them often? My parents?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know. I'm down here.

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<v Speaker 9>How long a se me?

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<v Speaker 5>Did they come visit or anything?

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<v Speaker 6>Or did they work?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>My mom's working.

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<v Speaker 17>What do they do?

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was a nurse. I'm I'm really sure my

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<v Speaker 4>dad does that. I I stopped talking to him.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, you guys have fallout.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a fall I just you know, nobody in

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<v Speaker 2>the family really talks to him, Like I don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably don't talk to him.

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<v Speaker 6>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 4>It's just I don't know. He's just a weird person.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have mental problems or drug I think he does,

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<v Speaker 2>but he won't admit it. He's like the type of

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<v Speaker 2>person that says, tells everyone else there crazy, and then

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else is saying, no, you're crazy, and he's like.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's just distance yourself and people like

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<v Speaker 4>that was the.

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<v Speaker 5>Last time you saw him?

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<v Speaker 9>A few years? How about your mom? It's just every years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, the detectives shifted their focus to a key piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the investigation, Jared's vehicle. The white Ford explore that car.

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<v Speaker 9>That you have, does anyone else drive it? No, You're

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<v Speaker 9>the only one that drives it. Yeah, because there's there

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<v Speaker 9>was like some tools and stuff in there. Those that's

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<v Speaker 9>for works. What are you to do with those?

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<v Speaker 4>There was a paining job.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh what kind of painting?

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<v Speaker 18>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 19>What kind of like interior exterior finishing business?

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<v Speaker 4>Just uh, exterior pan I will go to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>This is this is like we're just curious. We're just

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we saw that starting there, Like it almost seems

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<v Speaker 5>like there was more than one person.

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<v Speaker 4>Really weird questions.

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<v Speaker 5>She seems like this more than one person living in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Car and stuff like that went on personally in the car.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll stop for more than one person.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, just you Yeah, Okay, and he said it was

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<v Speaker 10>registered to you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>First, Jared told detectives he worked at fire house sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>but when asked about the tools and supplies and his explore,

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed to also be a painter. The story didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really add up, and detectives already knew the vehicle wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>registered to Jared. They also knew that he wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>only person living out of it.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, that car, oh man, two years and you

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<v Speaker 11>lived in a car.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where you in the car.

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<v Speaker 6>Where do you normally stay? Like where do you park

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<v Speaker 6>it at night?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you probably like in the part of the whole parking.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot here, Yeah, park the front, in the back, just

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<v Speaker 2>towards the back.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, what are you doing to get cleaned up and stuff?

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<v Speaker 9>I remember?

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<v Speaker 4>Fitness? Okay, fitness show.

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<v Speaker 1>The detectives also questioned Jared about his criminal history, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they already knew this wasn't his first encounter with

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<v Speaker 6>Have you been in trouble before? And what have you

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<v Speaker 6>ever been in trouble before? Have you ever had him

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<v Speaker 6>right written to you?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 17>What were you in trouble before before?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like just like small tercations and all stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just made a mistake, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to make.

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<v Speaker 5>Not the major not at all them done the same thing.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, bull had decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything recent, not really.

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<v Speaker 1>None of what Jared told detectives about his record was true.

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<v Speaker 1>At just twenty six years old, he had already accumulated

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<v Speaker 1>a growing list of pretty serious criminal charges.

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<v Speaker 20>Police say this isn't Neuman's first run in with the law.

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<v Speaker 20>He was arrested on February twenty second. In June nineteenth

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<v Speaker 20>for simple battery against strangers, and he was interviewed by

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<v Speaker 20>law enforcement in October after posting Facebook comments with threats

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<v Speaker 20>to kill, do bodily injury, or conduct a mass shooting

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<v Speaker 20>or an act of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>After hearing Jared lie about his record and the ownership

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ford Explorer, detectives shifted their focus to the

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<v Speaker 1>night before the bloody traffic stop in Delray Beach. When

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<v Speaker 1>the Delray cops asked why Jared had been covered in blood,

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<v Speaker 1>he offered a simple explanation. He claimed he'd been in

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<v Speaker 1>a fight.

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<v Speaker 10>So taking back to again, this didn't happen last night,

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<v Speaker 10>because this is the that's the main thing that we're

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<v Speaker 10>concerned about, is this person trying to locate them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any information.

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<v Speaker 17>You don't have anything else, you know their phone number

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<v Speaker 17>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know them like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, So after you left the traffic stop at del right,

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<v Speaker 10>did you go anywhere to clean yourself up?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what is all this for? Why am I

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<v Speaker 4>being questioned in all this?

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<v Speaker 9>So?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you're pretty you had a lot of blood on

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<v Speaker 10>you right last night when they came into mart right.

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00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.039
<v Speaker 6>But when a violent crime.

441
00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 10>Happens in Boca, then it becomes our problem because we

442
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.599
<v Speaker 10>have somebody out there who'd already are people.

443
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.440
<v Speaker 4>I can't go get the guy for you. I don't

444
00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:42.960
<v Speaker 4>know where he lives. I don't know him like that.

445
00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:45.400
<v Speaker 10>Well, there's this certain things that you've been telling us

446
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:49.160
<v Speaker 10>that just kind of don't like they're like really easy questions,

447
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.359
<v Speaker 10>Like it seems like you're not telling us the truth.

448
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.799
<v Speaker 1>On After pressing Jared a bit more, detectives were able

449
00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to get him to give up a few more details

450
00:22:57.920 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>about this supposed fight that he had.

451
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:01.680
<v Speaker 4>He just approached me.

452
00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:04.559
<v Speaker 2>He was very aggressive and we argued for a minute,

453
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and then he started attacking me and I fought back,

454
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and we just kind of got into a fight and eventually,

455
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:14.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, he just stopped and got tired.

456
00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 4>And just walked off, and I walked off and that

457
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 4>was it.

458
00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 6>Where did this happen at?

459
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.599
<v Speaker 4>It was in Boca well like where it was like

460
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:23.480
<v Speaker 4>somewhere on your motto?

461
00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Like I was walking, you know, and he just approached

462
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.319
<v Speaker 2>me and I've seen him a couple of times.

463
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 9>Like he kind of knows me not really.

464
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 6>Do you know? Like your mom's a pretty big route.

465
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I don't know, Like I was like just

466
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.559
<v Speaker 2>walking in and like Patent was specifically where.

467
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.599
<v Speaker 6>I was, And who's the guy that confronts you?

468
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:44.200
<v Speaker 9>I don't know his name?

469
00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:46.279
<v Speaker 6>How do you know? Like how have you seen?

470
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>I've just seen him a couple of times, Like he's

471
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.240
<v Speaker 2>talked to me before, like briefly, but.

472
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 17>Like where have you where have you seen him at?

473
00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.079
<v Speaker 4>I was just like around like here and there?

474
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:56.359
<v Speaker 9>Can you describe him?

475
00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:58.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like how male?

476
00:23:59.079 --> 00:23:59.880
<v Speaker 5>Female?

477
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:00.960
<v Speaker 9>Lack?

478
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:01.400
<v Speaker 6>This fan?

479
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 9>Black?

480
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Black mail?

481
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

482
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 9>Black?

483
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:03.759
<v Speaker 17>Now?

484
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 9>I thought? How old he is?

485
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 4>I have no idea? I mean twenty thirty forty.

486
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

487
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Do you think you got the best of him or

488
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 5>he got the best of you?

489
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:16.720
<v Speaker 4>He definitely got the best of me.

490
00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:17.359
<v Speaker 9>Oh really?

491
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:17.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

492
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 5>So you got the worst with the cuts and everything.

493
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was fine.

494
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how annoying is it when people are vague

495
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 1>like this, intentionally obtuse, tell me you're lying without telling

496
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 1>me you're lying. As detectives continued pressing for specifics, his

497
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>demeanor began to shift. For the first time, Jared's composure

498
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:40.599
<v Speaker 1>appeared to slip.

499
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 9>Where'd you get up going after work? Where you going

500
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 9>after work?

501
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.319
<v Speaker 10>Just in my car?

502
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.480
<v Speaker 17>There's something that's going on you want to tell us about.

503
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 10>You look like you're episode about something. Yeah, you just

504
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.039
<v Speaker 10>looked like you got lost in thought for a second.

505
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 10>I just want to make sure that there's not a

506
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 10>missing piece to this that you hold him back on it.

507
00:24:58.279 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 9>Are all right?

508
00:24:59.480 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

509
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.039
<v Speaker 13>That okay.

510
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Up to this point, the detectives had allowed Jared room

511
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk, to explain, to revise, to hedge, but eventually

512
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that changed. Detectives stopped trying to understand the story and

513
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>began challenging it.

514
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:21.960
<v Speaker 19>And we know it didn't happen on your motto, and

515
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 19>we know that your car wasn't at the McDonald's, and

516
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.279
<v Speaker 19>we kind of know where you are.

517
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 17>All right, So what can you tell us about what

518
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 17>actually happened.

519
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:36.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't have any any more information. I just whatever

520
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 4>I said is what I was saying.

521
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 9>Will you buy the beach yesterday? What is this about?

522
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 5>Just ask anywhere you play the beach yesterday.

523
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't want to.

524
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Answer any more questions. I feel like, I mean, like

525
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 4>targeting or something.

526
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 1>The shift in the detective's tone had a noticeable effect.

527
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Jared began to retreat. His answers grew shorter. Then he

528
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>stopped answering altogether. But the detectives didn't ease up. They

529
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:09.559
<v Speaker 1>doubled down and confronted Jared with more of the inconsistencies

530
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 1>in a story.

531
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 6>We know that you were over by the beach last night.

532
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 17>Okay, you're on video at seven eleven. Okay, we know.

533
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why you're distancing yourself from your dad.

534
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 10>You don't want to talk about your dad. We know

535
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 10>the vehicles registered to him. Okay, it's not registered to you.

536
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 10>We know that you guys were together in the vehicle

537
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 10>a month ago, right you got arrested.

538
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 6>You got into a domestic with him.

539
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 17>You were living down here with him.

540
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 6>And you're lying and telling us that he's living with

541
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:43.680
<v Speaker 6>his mom somewhere. So there's all these things that you're

542
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.680
<v Speaker 6>telling us that you're lying to us about, and I

543
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 6>think it's because you're upset with what happened last night.

544
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 10>Understandably, Okay, but you need to tell us the truth

545
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 10>about what.

546
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 6>Exactly happened because you're lying.

547
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.519
<v Speaker 10>There's all these things that we know that you're lying about,

548
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 10>but we just need to know exactly what happened.

549
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 9>What did happen? That's what we need you to tell us.

550
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:04.599
<v Speaker 4>Jared, Can you tell me?

551
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 9>Because I don't know what happened.

552
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 1>After more than an hour of questioning, the detectives stopped circling.

553
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>They moved directly to the reason why Jared was in

554
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 1>that room, the bloody and fatal stabbing in the parking lot.

555
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.559
<v Speaker 6>So we saw how much blood there was on you.

556
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 10>I also see the injuries that you have. All that

557
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 10>blood was not your blood, okay.

558
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 6>So that blood's going to.

559
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 17>Be in your car, okay, and you know what that's

560
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 17>going to come back to.

561
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:38.000
<v Speaker 6>What who's the blood going to come back to? What

562
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 6>do you mean in your car?

563
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 10>The blood in your car that was all over you,

564
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 10>that's not yours Because you only have.

565
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 6>A couple of small injuries.

566
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 9>You're seeing blood in my car.

567
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 10>There was blood all over you last night, all over

568
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 10>your face, all over both of your arms, all over

569
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 10>your pant legs, all over your feet.

570
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 5>I could see it on the outside of your car

571
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 5>and on your arm wrest and on the center console.

572
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 5>From standing outside your car, you can see.

573
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.680
<v Speaker 6>It, that blood. That was a lot of fler.

574
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 9>We don't know who you gotta fight with. We need

575
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 9>you to tell us who you gotta fight We know

576
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 9>the person, I don't know the we do.

577
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 4>How do you know the person we use?

578
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 9>Telling him?

579
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 21>Just asking me about them, because we're seeing how honest

580
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 21>you're gonna be with this, and we don't think you're

581
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 21>honest at all.

582
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Next, the detectives turned their attention to the victim. They

583
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 1>already knew who he was, and so did Jared.

584
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 19>Since that's your dad's car, how do we get ahold

585
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 19>of your dad to tell him that's his car and

586
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 19>we have it because we got to release to somebody.

587
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 9>Where is he? Do you have a number for him?

588
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 18>No?

589
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 9>What was the last time you saw him? Why even?

590
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Why is that a tough question for you? It's really not.

591
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 4>It's just I don't even know why.

592
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 21>I'm asked one of the last time you saw your

593
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 21>dad because I look at this, But Mom, you need

594
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 21>to get his car back to him.

595
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm the one using it.

596
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 5>Is you don't understand it's a registered to him, my law.

597
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.039
<v Speaker 5>He's the only one that can get the.

598
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, then he can come get it when he needs

599
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 4>to get it.

600
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 9>He won't know where it's at.

601
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we need to contact I can contact him.

602
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 9>Wow, I just don't want to answer my question.

603
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 5>What was the last time you saw your dad?

604
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 4>When it was the less time you saw him?

605
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm going to say.

606
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Today today, the victim in this homicide investigation, the man

607
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>found brutally stabbed to death inside a Boca Raton parking lot,

608
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was fifty nine year old Jay Noyman. He was Jareded's father.

609
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 22>So obviously, Jared, we're here about your dad, and we

610
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 22>can't tell with my dad.

611
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 9>We can't be any more clear about that.

612
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Why are you here about my dad?

613
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 9>Tell us?

614
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 4>I would like you to tell me. Why are you

615
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 4>here about my dad?

616
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 10>Well, I think it's obvious that you know because all

617
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 10>the questions that you've been avoiding today have had some

618
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 10>sort of relation.

619
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 13>To your dad.

620
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 10>There are certain things that you've been honest about out

621
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 10>and certain things that you've lied about, and every.

622
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 6>Single thing that you've lied about is how to do

623
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 6>with your dad?

624
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 5>What was going on?

625
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 1>When the conversation turned to his father, Jared responded the

626
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>same way he had all along. He acted as if

627
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he didn't understand what the detectives were asking. It's like,

628
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, he doesn't understand English. Some people

629
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>really suck that line.

630
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 9>So forces you're what really is?

631
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 4>What is enforcement?

632
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 19>Because as my partner said, you're well aware while you're here,

633
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 19>and you're.

634
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 5>Well aware of the situation that's going on. No, I'm

635
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 5>not to sit here and you sit.

636
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 9>Here and act like you are. I thought you were

637
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 9>more of.

638
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 5>A man, and I thought you were more of a

639
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 5>decent person.

640
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 4>I really much souing. I'm homeless, I'm poor. I fucking

641
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't what do you mean an excuse?

642
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying.

643
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying that I'm not a great person. Okay,

644
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm homeless, I'm poor. I don't have a lot of

645
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff in my life.

646
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>When confusion failed, Jared changed his approach and he cast

647
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>himself as a victim. Of course, Oh poor little Jahwait yet,

648
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Even in that shift towards self pity, this story remained inconsistent.

649
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 4>What so you don't even know this?

650
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 9>My dad?

651
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 5>They were talking to this, but we need to confirm it.

652
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 4>Before we say anything.

653
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 6>Is so you don't know? Well, yeah, so my dad's fine.

654
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.880
<v Speaker 4>You just I don't know.

655
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 9>You don't know. I don't know. Maybe I don't want

656
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 9>to tell you.

657
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 5>Say what you don't want to tell you?

658
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 4>You have to tell me anything? Yeah, I mean I

659
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 4>know everything in my life is fine.

660
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 9>So it is.

661
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I said it shipped two minutes ago.

662
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Despite Jared's attempts to steer the conversation elsewhere, detectives kept

663
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 1>bringing it back to his father, you know, the victim.

664
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Before long, they raised a he's an incident, one that

665
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>had resulted in Jared getting arrested for assaulting his dad.

666
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 6>So what I'm asking is I pass me off about

667
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 6>my dad. I'm trying to figure out what set you

668
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 6>off that day.

669
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought that little assault charge that they dropped because

670
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have that's worth.

671
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it was nothing.

672
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 5>He just he's like he was like a whim.

673
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 6>He's just called the police, but like what what why?

674
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 5>Like he was a whim?

675
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 6>It's like, you know, he just.

676
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 4>He's like the first person who like jump on the

677
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 4>phone and calling out on one.

678
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 6>Does he like get pissed off that you aren't working

679
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 6>as hard as you should.

680
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:38.039
<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

681
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know anything.

682
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 4>About my dad. I don't know, Like I never knew him.

683
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Since the day I was born to now, I never

684
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 2>knew a single thing about him because he doesn't like

685
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to share, he doesn't like communic.

686
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 6>Hat stand offish.

687
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's in his own little egotistical world

688
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 2>with it all revolves around him.

689
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 4>So I can't you know, It's it's like when talking

690
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 4>to a wall, and I.

691
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 6>Talked to him, right, So how do you your point across?

692
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 9>I don't.

693
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.079
<v Speaker 4>You don't know, I just get ignored.

694
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Bringing up the recent assault shifted the tone of the interview.

695
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Jared began speaking more freely about his father, about their relationship,

696
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the tension between them. So the detectives leaned into that

697
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and let Jared continue. When somebody starts digging hand them

698
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>as shovel, I mean.

699
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 6>Some people just real like that, you know what I mean.

700
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 6>No matter how much you talk to him or how

701
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 6>much you say you'm going to get in to him.

702
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, he was frustrating, you know, trying to cooperate

703
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 2>with somebody and they don't want to cooperate.

704
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 6>It, and you know, well, what are you trying to

705
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 6>collaborate on?

706
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 4>Everything? Everything?

707
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I tried everything to cooperate and have agreement and peace,

708
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and he was not interested in.

709
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Captain Vagueness began to unload his frustrations about his father.

710
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Before long, the detectives attempted to steer the conversation towards

711
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 1>a resolution, offering him a softer path forward. They asked

712
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>him to tell them what really happened.

713
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 9>The picture that you kind of painted. I'm kind of

714
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 9>on your side as.

715
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 22>To what you're going through and what your dad was

716
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 22>putting you through and the pressures you were feeling and

717
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 22>the personality conflict. So I didn't understand that if something

718
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 22>happened between you guys and.

719
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 9>It broke bad.

720
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 19>But unless you tell us what actually happened and stop

721
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 19>beating around the bush.

722
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what you're even talking about last night.

723
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 9>Okay, tell us what happened.

724
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>It's not that hard, it's very basically what did I

725
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>do last night?

726
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the strategy didn't work. Jared retreated once again responding

727
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>as though he didn't understand what detectives were asking. The

728
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 1>conversation stalled, circling back over ground they had already covered.

729
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 10>I want you to tell me about what you got

730
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 10>into your most recent argument, about.

731
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Most recent argument. Why do you want to know what

732
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 4>most recent argument was about?

733
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 6>Because everything here revolves around your dad.

734
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 4>Everything here, the.

735
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 6>Reason why we're hearing the revalls are my dad.

736
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, sorry, you gonna tell me what happened with my dad?

737
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm wanting you to tell me.

738
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 4>How would I know what happened with my dad.

739
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 17>Because you're with him?

740
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean him with him?

741
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 6>You were with him when earlier this morning?

742
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yet again the detectives shifted tactics. They returned to confronting

743
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Jared with the inconsistencies and his statements.

744
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 19>So the dad who you told us earlier tonight lives

745
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 19>with his.

746
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Mom in Ohio.

747
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't just listen, just listen.

748
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.199
<v Speaker 21>So your dad's mom is deceased, correct, yes, okay, so

749
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 21>he doesn't live with her. And then you told us

750
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.519
<v Speaker 21>that you haven't had any contact with him in years,

751
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 21>which she just pointed out a case a month ago

752
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 21>where you were arrested because.

753
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 5>You and him are fighting in a parking lot. And

754
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 5>then I'll just ask you a question if you and

755
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 5>him live in the trunk.

756
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 9>And he said yes.

757
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 19>And then I asked you if his stuff is in

758
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 19>the truck and you said yes, correct?

759
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 9>Is that correct?

760
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Why do I have to answer that?

761
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 21>You know, that's just the serials question I'm asking that

762
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 21>showed you're being deceitful.

763
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 5>And you said you believe in the truth and you

764
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 5>believe in fact.

765
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 21>Obviously you're lying because you don't believe in the truth

766
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 21>and you don't believe in fact.

767
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 9>Is that correct?

768
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 5>I just set a yes or no.

769
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 4>You just through my head to another world.

770
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 9>I didn't mean to do that. I apologized.

771
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 10>He's trying to explain to you all the things that

772
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 10>you lie about today, and I.

773
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Feel like I have to put my business out there

774
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 4>like that.

775
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 10>You know, well, when it comes to matters that are

776
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 10>involving the police and the reason is that we're questioning you,

777
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 10>then yeah it matters.

778
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 9>Well, well it.

779
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 4>May matter, but it's still you know, my business.

780
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 2>And if I don't want to share my personal business

781
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>with other people.

782
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.760
<v Speaker 4>That I don't know who aren't doing anything good.

783
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 15>Right, But.

784
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>How do you think that's going to look for you

785
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>in terms of why.

786
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Next, the detectives began laying out the physical evidence. Step

787
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 1>by step, they explained how it contradicted Jared's claim of

788
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>being attacked and instead pointed to him as the attacker.

789
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 17>Do you know what the evidence is telling me right now?

790
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 4>You said injured the person.

791
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 6>It's telling me that you were the aggressor?

792
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Really mm hm.

793
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 10>So that's why I'm asking you for your side of

794
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 10>the story. Because all the physical evidence, or by physical evidence,

795
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 10>I mean the blood, everything else that's on, seeing the video, surveillance,

796
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 10>your phone, everything, all of that is telling me that

797
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 10>you were the aggressor in this situation. And without knowing

798
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.679
<v Speaker 10>the reasoning, we're kind of stuck. And I don't want

799
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 10>to picture you as a bad person who would just

800
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 10>go out and do something for no reason. I don't

801
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 10>think that's the case. I think that there's a reason

802
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 10>for what happened. But unfortunately, unless you tell us, walls

803
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 10>were stuck with is the facts and what we're looking at.

804
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 17>And the facts don't make you seem very good.

805
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that he was injured that bad. Yeah,

806
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean I thought I was more injured than him.

807
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't I didn't see them get injured.

808
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 4>I was the one on the ground. He was standing

809
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 4>over me.

810
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Despite the evidence, Jared continued to insist that he had

811
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 1>been attacked, not his father, but by an unknown black man.

812
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>He claimed it confronted him yet again. Detectives challenged this

813
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 1>claim immediately. Then the tone in the room shifted. Patients

814
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>were thin, and this interrogation began to break down completely.

815
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 5>So here we are back to that.

816
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 22>When you don't feel asking answering the question, you answer

817
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 22>the questions and you have a good dialogue with us.

818
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 5>But when Jared gets uncomfortable and Jared.

819
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 9>It's stupid to me, it's not stupid.

820
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, and again you have you have enough evidence to

821
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 2>going to make somebody in the hurry to your people listen.

822
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 9>So what more do you need out of me?

823
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 5>Let me just look? Yeah, go ahead, I said it before.

824
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 9>You don't ire No, how do you don't care?

825
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 5>You don't care?

826
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 9>Okay, what do you is?

827
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 19>That's the attitude you take instead of answering the question.

828
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 5>You laugh. I do not care about this whole situation

829
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 5>and the person that you heard.

830
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, as far as I know, I didn't hurt anyone,

831
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>So tell him.

832
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how holds and care about somebody.

833
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what you heard. You got them

834
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 4>with altercations?

835
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I that.

836
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Person did not look injured to me. They walked away

837
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 4>like Wally.

838
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Tell you they are okay.

839
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Then if they want to pursue charges, then I'll do here.

840
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 6>I do care.

841
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 9>I didn't.

842
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I didn't mean to injure them.

843
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 6>This and just I have no know how did they happen?

844
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 9>How did you injure them?

845
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 4>I guess when we were fighting.

846
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

847
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 4>I guess I want to hit him.

848
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 9>I mean he I can tell you.

849
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 5>The injuries aren't consistent with fighting.

850
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 9>Did you have a weapon on you? Did you have a.

851
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Gun with you? I had four guns.

852
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 21>Did you have any knives with you?

853
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Maybe the hundred?

854
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 9>What kind of knights?

855
00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 17>Uh?

856
00:39:58.360 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 4>The machetes from.

857
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 6>The goal.

858
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 9>Many other women.

859
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 4>I had a laser four so it support issues the laser. Yeah,

860
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 4>it's a new scientific invention.

861
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 19>Thegan the smush, she said before the smart hell againswers.

862
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 22>When you're sitting here, I mean if you got away articular,

863
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 22>I asked you if you had a woman, and.

864
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I already answer you sold you know, and then you

865
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't take my word for you can past as you

866
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>take over your work for.

867
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>When you lie to us so many there won't take

868
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 4>my word for anything. You apparently have an ividence work

869
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 4>or do you need it?

870
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 17>Giving you more and more chances to try and be

871
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 17>honest with us?

872
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:38.400
<v Speaker 6>And we already told you a live one out of you.

873
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 8>We want the why?

874
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 5>Why? Why? What?

875
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Eventually the detective stepped back. The interview had reached a standstill,

876
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>but before they left the room, something unexpected happened, something

877
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen often during a police interrogation. The suspect

878
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>freely admitted that much of what he said wasn't true.

879
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 6>All right, Jared, Right, he's for everything he told me.

880
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 10>Today's the truth to WoT truth, nothing but the truth

881
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 10>be God, no, no, no, I.

882
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 9>Know'm mine.

883
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Almost things I said. I told you I was lying.

884
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 5>Do you want to tell us anything truthful before we go?

885
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean not really.

886
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Jared delivered this admission calmly and casually, with an unusual confidence.

887
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 1>He acknowledged that he had lied, but when detectives left

888
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>him alone in the interrogation room, his composure didn't hold up.

889
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Jared broke down and began sobbing uncontrollably.

890
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 15>Mm hmm, Hey, I had some noises coming out of here, right, yeah,

891
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 15>it's gone.

892
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 6>It's crying.

893
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 17>No, no, there's water coming out of your eyes.

894
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Believing they were on the verge of a breakthrough, the

895
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>detectives re entered the room. They tried to steady Jared

896
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>with that big brother, big sister thing they do to

897
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>reason with him, to guide him towards a full account

898
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of what had happened, but in this moment didn't hold.

899
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 5>I think you're torn jar between taking responsibilities for this

900
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 5>and not.

901
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I, Like I said, I you know, as far as

902
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 4>I know why, I didn't do anything. So I'm going

903
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 4>to trial.

904
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 9>You have evident answer and.

905
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 4>You can get an conviction, and good for you. I'm

906
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 4>going to be going to trial, all right.

907
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 9>That's for luck to you. Good luck to you.

908
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

909
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>The interrogation finally came to an end. Detectives had challenged Jared,

910
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>pressed him, confronted him with the inconsistencies and the evidence,

911
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>but without a clear admission and without enough established probable

912
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>cause for murder, their options were limited. Jared was booked

913
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>on a traffic offense, and then he was released after

914
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>hours inside that interrogation room, after the blood, after the contradictions,

915
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Jared walked out of the station a free man. For

916
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 1>the moment, there was nothing that law enforcement could do

917
00:43:52.880 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to stop him. On the night of February second, twenty twenty,

918
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a white Ford Explorer was pulled over in Delray Beach, Florida.

919
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>The driver was twenty six year old Jared Noyman. He

920
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>was calm, cooperative, and covered in blood. Jared offered shifting

921
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>explanations and was eventually allowed to park his vehicle and

922
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 1>walk away. The next morning, about ten miles from that

923
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.119
<v Speaker 1>traffic stop, inside a Boca Raton parking garage, a man

924
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was found stabbed to death. Detectives recovered a broken knife

925
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 1>near his body and a trail of bloody footprints leading

926
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 1>away from the scene. The victim was identified as fifty

927
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 1>nine year old j Neuman. He was Jared's father. By

928
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the time detectives brought Jared in for questioning, they believe

929
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the evidence pointed directly at him. Inside the interrogation room,

930
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Jared deflected, he contradicted himself. He blamed a stranger he

931
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 1>broke down, but without a clear admission and without enough

932
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 1>to establish probable cause for murder, Detectives were forced to

933
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>release him. For a brief time, Jared Neuman was a

934
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>free man, but then something unexpected happened. The following day,

935
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Jared returned to the Boca Ratan Police Department and asked

936
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to speak with detectives again.

937
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 6>He said, you wanted to talk to me? Yeah, what's uh?

938
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I would just I would like to confess to the

939
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 2>murder of my father.

940
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I appreciate you coming in and man enough and

941
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 6>saying that.

942
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Jared didn't only return to the police station. He came

943
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>back to confess to killing his father, and when he

944
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>began speaking, he gave detectives what they had been trying

945
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to uncover since the beginning. Jared told them, why, I think.

946
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I just had a huge lapse of judgment.

947
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 9>My dad.

948
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not trying to make excuses for why

949
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I did what I did, because there's no excuse sort.

950
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 4>But I was very stressed out and unhappy.

951
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 23>My dad would constantly disrespect me, and I felt like

952
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 23>I was being bullied and harassed. And when I was

953
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 23>in jail, in prison and around all these like criminalized people,

954
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 23>they'd always talked about how when people do bad things

955
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 23>to you. You have to stand up for yourself, and

956
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 23>you have to usually, you know, retaliate with violence, and

957
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 23>has been so grated into my head that I was

958
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 23>consistently on it because it's a basis thinking about violence

959
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 23>when people were mean to me and I didn't know

960
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 23>how to make them stop otherwise.

961
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, my dad would always call the police on

962
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>me if I got violent towards him, like physically, and

963
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 2>then you know, it just got to a point where

964
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, the only way to make.

965
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 4>His stop is to do this, and.

966
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 9>I didn't.

967
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I didn't, you know, I didn't know what I was doing.

968
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know what he didn't deserve that.

969
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 4>I just didn't know.

970
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't know what I did until it was

971
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it was over and I realized what I did.

972
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 9>I didn't.

973
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 4>I didn't understand what the hell did I just do?

974
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Like, as Jared explained why he killed his father, his

975
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 1>tone was much different than a day ago. The defiance,

976
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the guarded answers were gone and their place was something else,

977
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it was remorse, guilt, or simply exhaustion. It sounded real.

978
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 5>I didn't deserve that.

979
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 23>I mean, it wasn't the nicest person to me, But

980
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 23>I don't think he deserved to die like that.

981
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 4>It was horrible. I mean remember every second of all.

982
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 4>If you didn't do that, it just felt like I

983
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 4>was pushed too far and I just I just reacted

984
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 4>in a bad way.

985
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 1>After Jared explained why, the detectives turned to the details,

986
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>asking him to walk them through exactly what had happened

987
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>between him and his father.

988
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 10>Does he always sleep outside of the car and you

989
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 10>sleep in the car even when it's cold out.

990
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean he usually either takes two blankets or he'll

991
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>like sleep in this like corridor spot.

992
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 6>Okay. Where so where was the car park.

993
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Just like on the first floor, and where was he

994
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>sleeping at? He was upstairs on like the one of

995
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the higher floors.

996
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 10>Okay, So what happened that let out take me to

997
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 10>be likely what happened?

998
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, nothing really like happened that made that happen.

999
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 2>It is just like something i'd been like I just

1000
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 2>thought of, you know, It's just like kind of just

1001
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 2>came over me.

1002
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Jared admitted he had been contemplating his father's death for

1003
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 1>some time, and on a cold February night, he put

1004
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that thought into motion.

1005
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 6>I know this art it's hard.

1006
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 17>To talk about, but can you tell me exactly what

1007
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 17>you did to him?

1008
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was sleeping and.

1009
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>I walked up and I had a knife in my hand,

1010
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and I think the blanket was over his head and

1011
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I pulled a blanket off, and I think I started

1012
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 3>stabbing him in.

1013
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 4>The throat like blood like, you know, telling me to

1014
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 4>stop like and I didn't you know what I said. No,

1015
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what I was doing at all, you know.

1016
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 4>And he fell on the.

1017
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Ground as a boy, and you know, I started choking

1018
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>him and I just told him just.

1019
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 4>To go to sleep, you know, to stop fighting. Just

1020
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.199
<v Speaker 4>go to sleep. I sold him life, to leave his

1021
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 4>eyes and everything.

1022
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Jared described the attack as sudden, chaotic, and bloody. He

1023
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>stabbed his father repeatedly. There was a brief struggle in

1024
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the end was overpowered. The assault was so forceful that

1025
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 1>the blade of the knife eventually snapped from its handle.

1026
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 6>What where'd the knife that you used? How did you

1027
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 6>get that?

1028
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 3>I bought the Dollar's door that day or earlier that day,

1029
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Earlier that day, So.

1030
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 6>You went in there and you bought that knife? Did

1031
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 6>you buy anything else with.

1032
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 4>It at the dollar store?

1033
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

1034
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 23>I bought like a bunch of trash bags and some gloves.

1035
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 10>When you went to the dollar store initially to buy

1036
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 10>the knife, is that what you were thinking.

1037
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 4>About, Well, that's why I bought the knife via to.

1038
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 17>Kill your dad.

1039
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1040
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 1>By jared'sn't account, this killing wasn't spontaneous. He admitted to

1041
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 1>planning it, and he even admitted to thinking about the

1042
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>better option, which would have been to simply walk away

1043
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 1>from his father and start over somewhere else.

1044
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>And it was hard to decide that to just deal

1045
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>with things.

1046
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 4>But I told myself, you know, like maybe I.

1047
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Just need to work hard and do the right thing

1048
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and just like just move out when uh,

1049
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, when the time comes, and then I can

1050
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>buy all.

1051
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 4>My own stuff.

1052
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 24>You know, I don't have to do anything to him

1053
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 24>and take his stuff, and you know.

1054
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know, like's just something like it's just something.

1055
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason, I ended up going back in there

1056
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.199
<v Speaker 2>and just decided to buy the stuff anyway, and I

1057
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 2>just put it in the car.

1058
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 1>As Jared continued explaining his reasoning and his thought process,

1059
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the grievances he described began to feel smaller. He characterized

1060
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>his father as abusive, harsh, controlling, and difficult to live with,

1061
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But when pressed for specifics, the examples he offered painted

1062
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a picture that was much less extreme.

1063
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Like in all, honestly, I like I was.

1064
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I was tired of, you know, kind of being like

1065
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 2>woking up early in.

1066
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 4>The mornings and you know, kind of being stressed out.

1067
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And I made me honest, I thought things like, oh, like,

1068
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I kill him, I'll just be able

1069
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to like take the car and just like be able

1070
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to sleep, and you know, my life will be better.

1071
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 4>It'll be free, and I won't have to deal with

1072
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:03.840
<v Speaker 4>this anymore.

1073
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 2>And stupid shit like that, you know, you know, I

1074
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I tried everything I knew how to do,

1075
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and this was the only thing I didn't try, so

1076
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was my only option.

1077
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize what I was doing.

1078
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Jared and his father were living out of a forward explorer.

1079
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>At night, Jared slept inside the vehicle and his father

1080
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 1>often slept outside, but Jay had to wake up early

1081
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>for work. When he did, he would wake Jared up

1082
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 1>as well, start the engine and drive to a painting job.

1083
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Jared resented that he didn't want to be woken up.

1084
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to sleep all day, and over time that

1085
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 1>resentment deepened into something very dark. Jared saw only one

1086
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>way out for some reason, so he decided to kill

1087
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>his father, and as part of that plan, he even

1088
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>went as far as to dig a shallow grave.

1089
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I did you know about one am, I went

1090
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.599
<v Speaker 2>over to the beach and actually tried to dig a

1091
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:06.360
<v Speaker 2>hole that I was.

1092
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Going to put his body in. It was right out

1093
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 4>on the beach by some grass. There's like a huge hole.

1094
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 5>I go, okay, And.

1095
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 6>Was it within view of people the whole Well, it.

1096
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Was you know, dark house sticks though I don't think

1097
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>anyone really saw it, but like by morning, I'm sure

1098
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they would have seen it.

1099
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:22.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1100
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 1>After digging a grave on the beach, Jared returned to

1101
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the parking garage where his father was sleeping. By then,

1102
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the decision to kill had already been made.

1103
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 10>So after that, where you go once you give up

1104
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 10>on digging the hole?

1105
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I think I just went straight to him.

1106
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 6>No.

1107
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I went to the car and I waited a little

1108
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 2>bit because my.

1109
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.199
<v Speaker 4>Arms were hurting hi from digging the hole.

1110
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>And then I just I just was like, you know what,

1111
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's time, basically, and I went up and

1112
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of did it?

1113
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.239
<v Speaker 10>And when you walked up to him, when you first

1114
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 10>walked up to him, was it slow or fast?

1115
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Or I think a kind of moved like not like

1116
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 2>slow slope, but kind of like kind of creeped up

1117
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>on my guess.

1118
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Jared approached his father barefoot, hoping not to wake him.

1119
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 1>In his hand was the dollar store knife he had

1120
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>purchased earlier. Then Jared struck.

1121
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 10>Do you remember where you hit him with a knife first,

1122
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 10>right in his neck?

1123
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 6>And he was sleeping when you when that first sat when.

1124
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:30.039
<v Speaker 10>You first said he was sleeping okay? And did he

1125
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 10>wake up immediately when that happened?

1126
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:33.280
<v Speaker 6>Did he say anything to you?

1127
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 10>He told me to stop, okay, did he say anything else?

1128
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I don't remember, well, I don't

1129
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 4>think so.

1130
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 6>Was there a lot of blood?

1131
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 13>What happened up?

1132
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 17>Do you used to have him the first time?

1133
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 4>He jumped up and was screaming, so he stood up?

1134
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, he jumped up really fast and like started

1135
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to fight me off and he was telling me

1136
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Jared stop, I you know, I said no?

1137
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 10>And did you just stab him the one time? They

1138
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:04.000
<v Speaker 10>get back up or did you hit him a.

1139
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:04.440
<v Speaker 6>Couple of times.

1140
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I hit him a couple of times.

1141
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 10>Do you know if you had to guess how many

1142
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 10>times would you think that you hit him?

1143
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly what I would say several, So,

1144
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe like I couldn't even count at least

1145
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 2>four or five.

1146
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 10>Four or five times stabbed him and it was that

1147
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 10>when it was all in the neck area, or I

1148
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 10>think so, yeah, Okay.

1149
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>An autopsy later determined that Jay Norman had been stabbed

1150
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:29.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven times, and the wounds were not confined to

1151
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 1>his neck. They were spread across his body.

1152
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:34.559
<v Speaker 6>So it got dropped.

1153
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>No, the knife broke, Oh it broke, yeah, and uh

1154
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>so the pieces just fell over.

1155
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 10>When that first time when you stabbed him a couple

1156
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 10>of times, when did where did the other stabs come?

1157
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>If the knife broke, I actually stabbed him a couple

1158
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 2>of times with the broken knife.

1159
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 6>With the broken knife.

1160
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like a little piece left, but I

1161
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 2>kept stabbing him.

1162
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 6>Okay.

1163
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>During the attack, Jay tried to fight off his son.

1164
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Defensive wounds on his body confirmed there had been a struggle,

1165
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 1>but in the end, Jared, the son, overpowered the father.

1166
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 6>And then what happens now that you're both standing.

1167
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:17.119
<v Speaker 4>For so many mechanics.

1168
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I remember this part, but at some point we both

1169
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 2>ended up on the ground and I was on top

1170
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 2>of him choking.

1171
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 6>Him, and then what happens and just kept.

1172
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Telling go to sleep, And so I don't remember everything

1173
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I said. I just remember saying that he was very

1174
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:34.320
<v Speaker 2>cruel to me.

1175
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 24>And you know, I think I remember I said I

1176
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 24>didn't want to do this.

1177
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 4>To him, and that it was that I said.

1178
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 24>He was very cruel to me, and I probably said

1179
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 24>a couple other things, but I don't remember what that

1180
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 24>was really until passed away.

1181
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Jane Norman's final moments were violent and horrific. While bleeding

1182
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 1>out from more than two dozen stab wounds, the last

1183
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 1>thing he saw was his own son choking him to death.

1184
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Burn that image into the back of your retna. Imagine

1185
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:12.159
<v Speaker 1>seeing your own son choking the life out of you.

1186
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 6>How did you know that he was dead?

1187
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:17.519
<v Speaker 4>I saw the life of his eyes.

1188
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 17>Okay, did you see him breathing at all?

1189
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>It's not like he was breathing, but like his body

1190
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>was like reacting, like like it was like trying to

1191
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>have air or something. I kept I thought, I thought,

1192
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's still alive. So I kept like forcing his

1193
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 2>windpipe down. And but then I realized, like when I

1194
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>took my hands off, it was just his body like

1195
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 2>doing something, that he was dead, and like I took

1196
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 2>my hands off and like a huge amount of hair

1197
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 2>like sucked into him.

1198
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I got off with him.

1199
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 1>After killing his father, Jared abandoned his plan to move

1200
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the body to the beach. It was a pretty fucking

1201
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>dumb plan to begin with, because a lot of people

1202
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like to go to the beach. It's a very populated area,

1203
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 1>so probably not a great place to bury a body.

1204
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And again this homeless city, it was a homeless city.

1205
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So he simply fled the scene, leaving Jay where he

1206
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>had fallen. Evidence and all the crime would not be

1207
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 1>discovered until the following morning, but that was soon enough.

1208
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I tried to use the trash bag, but then I

1209
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>just like I saw across the apartment that there was

1210
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>a light on, and I didn't know if I was being

1211
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 2>washed or something.

1212
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 4>So I got really scared and I just said, oh,

1213
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 4>I can't be here or something like that. And then

1214
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I got.

1215
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>In in the in the car and just you know,

1216
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I took these keys and I got in the car

1217
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and just took off immediately and then yeah, and then

1218
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I just started heading north and then that's when the

1219
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>del Rey police stopped me and saw the blood all

1220
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 2>over me.

1221
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.679
<v Speaker 7>Hey, there amongst us was the reason why I pulled

1222
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 7>you over.

1223
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 5>You know't have any lights on? Are you okay, bod?

1224
00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just had a movie.

1225
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Are you sure you don't need paramatics or anything.

1226
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 1>After pulling Jared over and finding him covered in blood,

1227
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Delray Beach police allowed him to walk away. He wouldn't

1228
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 1>be arrested or questioned about his father's death until after

1229
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Jay's body was discovered. During that initial interview, Jared lied

1230
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly as detectives pressed him for the truth and tried

1231
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 1>to uncover a motive. But the following day, he returned

1232
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 1>to the police station, and this time he explained why

1233
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 1>he did it.

1234
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 6>You're upset because he wanted to wait here up in

1235
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 6>the morning.

1236
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I just I didn't

1237
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:39.559
<v Speaker 4>want to get up.

1238
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Like he was saying, like you know that, you know,

1239
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>he needs to go to work and stuff.

1240
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 4>He was, oh right, he was.

1241
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Talking about like okay, well if you don't want to

1242
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 2>get woken up, just sleep outside, you know, and you

1243
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:51.760
<v Speaker 2>take the blankets I said, no, I.

1244
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Can't do that.

1245
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1246
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I said it's too cold, I can't do it.

1247
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And then he said, you know, I don't know how

1248
00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>God at this point really.

1249
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Was for some reason. He said, you know, what would

1250
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you make your happy?

1251
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Bodes left outside, and I just said yeah.

1252
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 1>This confession eventually ended and detectives left the room. Jared

1253
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 1>remained seated at the table. The camera is still recording

1254
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>alone in the interrogation room. He began to speak out loud,

1255
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>not to the detectives but to his father after.

1256
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 11>Hearing all that, I'm sure you very furious. I don't

1257
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 11>have an excuse, so I saw then I don't know. Sure,

1258
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 11>you're very angry. He can be mad at me. I

1259
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 11>did what's wrong and stupid. I should never did that.

1260
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 11>I have to forget me. It was wrong, very wrong.

1261
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.920
<v Speaker 11>I turned myself in, Okay.

1262
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.159
<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to do what I can do. May

1263
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 4>come before you, though, I can make joy.

1264
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 23>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1265
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:13.960
<v Speaker 5>I was so sick.

1266
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 1>A short time later, Jared was escorted out of the

1267
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.519
<v Speaker 1>interrogation room and formally booked on murder charges.

1268
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 20>Twenty six year old Jared Neuman is now charged with

1269
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 20>first degree murder after the police say he turned himself

1270
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 20>into day and confessed to murdering his father in this

1271
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.039
<v Speaker 20>parking garage Monday morning. Police also say surveillance video identified

1272
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 20>Neyman as a suspect. Police say Noyman confessed to stabbing

1273
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 20>and strangling his father as he slept because he did

1274
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 20>not like the way his father treated him. Neuman remains

1275
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:48.280
<v Speaker 20>in jail for premeditated first degree murder with no bond.

1276
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 20>He's scheduled to appear in court Thursday morning.

1277
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>After his arrest, Jared's legal battle began. Any remorse he

1278
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>had expressed during his confession faded away as he entered

1279
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a plea not guilty, much like any sympathy you may

1280
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:06.199
<v Speaker 1>have had for him should have faded away after learning

1281
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that this manipulative sociopath murdered his own father, admitted to it,

1282
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and rather than accept responsibility and take punishment, he pleads

1283
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:18.559
<v Speaker 1>not guilty because why not waste a bunch of taxpayer money.

1284
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Also at trial, Jared claimed he had killed his father

1285
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.920
<v Speaker 1>in self defense. That claim unraveled during cross examination.

1286
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.320
<v Speaker 5>Your statement on the polices so different than it is today,

1287
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 5>right a little bit?

1288
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:40.920
<v Speaker 13>Well, now you're saying you bought a knife or self defense, right,

1289
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 13>so you can kill your father in self defense?

1290
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 5>What you bought the knife?

1291
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to protect myself, yes, So.

1292
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 4>You planned out this self defense where you were.

1293
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:56.039
<v Speaker 13>Purchasing a knife in anticipation of self if I needed to, Yeah,

1294
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.239
<v Speaker 13>and you bought trash bags and self dedaia I did.

1295
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 18>Well, no was thinking it, but if that happened, I

1296
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 18>would like I was like stupid, and I was thinking

1297
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 18>there was.

1298
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.199
<v Speaker 5>Like a way to like hide this body, but it

1299
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 5>wasn't right.

1300
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 13>You're gonna hide a body in self defense too, that's part.

1301
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 5>Of the play.

1302
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 18>Well, if I kill somebody's self defense, I don't want like,

1303
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:15.760
<v Speaker 18>you know, you gotta hide this body somewhere, right.

1304
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it seemed like I did your.

1305
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 13>Bod gloves to defend yourself as well.

1306
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, I didn't want to leave fingerprints.

1307
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 10>Right.

1308
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:24.519
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to get caught when you killed when

1309
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 5>you killed them in self defense, right, right? You donne

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01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.480
<v Speaker 5>a whole of the beach in self defense. Right?

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<v Speaker 18>That was like stupid, but I guess yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 18>like thinking, uh that I could have buried him, but

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<v Speaker 18>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>During the trial, prosecutors argued that Jared's claim of self

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01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 1>defense was a lot because it was a story constructed

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01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>after the fact to avoid responsibility. They told jurors the

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01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 1>evidence showed something much more deliberate. Jared had grown resentful

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01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of his father, planned the killing meticulously, and then carried

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 13>Hours upon hours of conversations with police officers, telling them

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<v Speaker 13>what happened in all these lives?

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<v Speaker 17>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 13>The first time you came up with this story was today,

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01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 13>five years after you murdered your father.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I just might have said it differently.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well, when did you.

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<v Speaker 9>Make up the story about what you just When did it.

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<v Speaker 18>Come to you in your mind to make up the story.

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<v Speaker 18>It's not a story I made up. I mean, I

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01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 18>was just not telling the police everything.

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<v Speaker 9>Feel like you're dead? No, right?

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01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 4>Hated you dead, maybe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutors also emphasized a critical detail. When Jay Noyman was attacked,

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01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>he was asleep. They argued that fact alone undermined any

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01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.719
<v Speaker 1>claim of self defense. You can't get attacked by someone

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<v Speaker 1>who unconscious. Didn't we learn that from the door dash girl?

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<v Speaker 5>When you stabbed him with the knife, he wasn't awake.

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<v Speaker 13>Right, yes, eyes were closed, yes, and you took off

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01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 13>your shoes so that he wouldn't hear.

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<v Speaker 5>You coming right, yes, And do you remember telling the

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<v Speaker 5>police that.

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<v Speaker 9>He told you stop? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that, yeah, right, and you didn't stop.

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<v Speaker 22>No.

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<v Speaker 13>You stabbed them multiple times, yes, some of them to

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01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:33.440
<v Speaker 13>his back.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm back. When you stabbed someone in.

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<v Speaker 4>The back, that's not self defense, right, If.

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<v Speaker 18>You were trying to defend yourself and you had to

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<v Speaker 18>like keep hitting them, maybe hit them in the back

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<v Speaker 18>by accident.

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<v Speaker 5>Defend yourself from a sleeping man?

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<v Speaker 18>Uh no, No, but I mean if it was like

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01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 18>situation where somebody.

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<v Speaker 13>Was doing defended yourself from a person that's asleep on

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<v Speaker 13>the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Unsurprisingly, the jury sided with prosecutters and returned to guilty verdict.

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01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Jared was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to

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01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:07.840
<v Speaker 1>life in prison for killing his father.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened to your dad that things kind of spiral?

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<v Speaker 9>Then you and him are living out of his truck together.

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<v Speaker 9>Did he just have a bad turn of events? Business

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01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:18.840
<v Speaker 9>went bad?

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<v Speaker 21>What was the You can ask him, But that's kind

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01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:24.559
<v Speaker 21>of They're going from having a business and a condo

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<v Speaker 21>and that to you guys living out of the same truck.

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<v Speaker 9>It's kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's his problem.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm saying it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 21>I'm just curious as to did he mismanage his money,

1374
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 21>did someone take advantage of him drugs with alcohol, bad luck?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not that involved.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unclear how or why j Noyman ultimately found himself

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01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 1>living out of a Ford Explorer with his son. What

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01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.559
<v Speaker 1>we do know was that life inside that vehicle wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>easy for either of them. Living in such close quarters

1380
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 1>is hard. The space is small, the privacy nonexistent. Every

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01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.239
<v Speaker 1>little frustration lingers a bit longer when there's nowhere to

1382
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 1>escape it. By all accounts, Jay was trying to make

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01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it work. Friends had offered him a place to stay

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01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:23.280
<v Speaker 1>away out, but he refused. He knew his son was

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01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:27.119
<v Speaker 1>struggling and he didn't want to leave him alone. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, Jay understood that Jared could be violent

1387
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and volatile. Moving his son into a friend's home simply

1388
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:42.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't an option, so Jay chose another path. He continued

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<v Speaker 1>living out of his vehicle alongside his son. That kind

1390
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of loyalty is difficult to measure. It's the quiet, stubborn

1391
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of love that doesn't disappear when things get messy,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind that stays, even when staying is the hardest

1393
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 1>thing on earth. Jay chose to remain with his son. Tragically,

1394
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 1>his son chose something else. In the end. This wasn't

1395
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 1>a crime born of imminent danger or desperate survival. It

1396
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>was a calculated decision rooted in resentment, in small grievances

1397
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that were allowed to grow unchecked, dealt with by an

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01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 1>emotionally immature idiot. Jay Neuman stayed with his child when

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01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 1>others might have walked away, and that choice cost him

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<v Speaker 1>his life. Some people spend their entire life searching for

1401
01:08:43.319 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 1>unconditional love. J Noyman died by giving it. Well, that

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01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 1>does it for another tragedy. I don't know why you

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<v Speaker 1>guys listen to this stuff, but I guess it's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Greeks loved their tragedy, right, So not

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<v Speaker 1>much has changed in thousands of years. I don't suspect

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<v Speaker 1>much will change in thousands of years. So until next week,

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<v Speaker 1>stay safe, usual

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<v Speaker 5>Begining coming completely authentic at prop