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Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and just

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not intended for all audiences.

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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 3: I had a nice in my hand, and I think

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the blanket was over his head, and I pulled the

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blanket off.

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Speaker 4: I think I started stabbing him in the throat.

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Speaker 5: I sold it lifely his eyes and everything.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: So I put the videos in a higher tier, and

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you guys complain. So after a while I bring it

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down and I make it available to the lowest tier available,

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and then the guys in the higher tiers complain. And

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it seems like, no matter what I do this year,

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you've all woken up in twenty twenty six with something

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shoved up firmly up your ass. It's like everybody is

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on their period or something. Yeah, I said it. That's

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what it's like. From my end, I get it from

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every one of you. All of you complain to me

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for some reason as if I give a shit. I

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mean I do give a shit. I do want you

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to enjoy the show and what I'm producing here, but

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you gotta stop. I'm gonna produce whatever I'm gonna produce.

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I'm the one deciding that, as the creator of this

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program and you can like it or you can not

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like it. And that's why there's a million choices available online.

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You can just go to something else you'll like. You

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don't have to attack me personally and you know, try

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to dig up secrets about me and like, you know,

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try to ruin my life and all that shit, Like

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what is that? What's wrong?

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Speaker 6: Would you be?

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Speaker 1: Grow? Ah Buca Raton, Florida, sits on the Atlantic Coast,

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manicured neighborhoods, gated communities, palm line streets, a sun drenched

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tropical paradise where tourists find it easy to forget that

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life just kind of happens here, and residents have to

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get a move on with their routine and get things done.

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Just a few miles north, in the smaller city of

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Delray Beach, that routine continued on the night of February two,

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twenty twenty. Traffic moved through intersections, patrol cars idled at lights.

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Nothing was unusual, that is, until the traffic cop pulled

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over a white Ford Explorer.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be the eleven hundred block South Federal, so

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I Ford Explored reference snow lights. Can you put your

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hands on the little body okay, hey, there almost just

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was the reason why.

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Speaker 4: Uh I pulled you over?

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Speaker 8: You don't have any lights on?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Tuck behind the wheel was a man in his mid twenties.

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He didn't appear intoxicated. His speech was steady, his demeanor calm.

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If anything, he seemed apologetic. But something about him stopped

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the officer cold. His face, his chest, his hands were

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all spattered with blood.

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Speaker 5: Are you okay on?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I just had a note lead?

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Speaker 7: Do you share?

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Speaker 5: You don't need paramax anything? Okay?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Are you able to turn your lights on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Are you sure you didn't get like beat up or anything?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: I just had a nosebleed. I get him all the time.

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Speaker 7: Okay, do you have your license on your body?

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Speaker 4: I don't actually, but I have my Yeah? Yeah, do

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you have your idea?

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Speaker 1: The strange man with a nosebleed handed over his license,

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which identified him as twenty six year old Jared Noyman.

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As the officer returned to his patrol car to run

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Jared's information, another unit pulled up. The second officer immediately

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noticed the blood.

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Speaker 5: He's got blood all over his face. You seal the

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blood on his face?

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Speaker 1: Say he's headed like that dude, it is no fucking.

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Speaker 7: That's why I was like, bro, you need have to

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be okay, got a fight, Like no, I just had

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a real.

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Speaker 5: Bad, none oly shit.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Jared, the blood wasn't the only issue. When

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officers ran Jared's information, they discovered something else. Driver's license,

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which was actually a learner's permit, had expired.

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Speaker 7: All right, so I'll say you know that your license

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isn't good.

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Speaker 10: This is not good.

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Speaker 7: It's been expired since twenty sixteen, and it's a E

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class learners, which means you're supposed to have someone twenty

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one or older that's licensed with you.

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Speaker 5: Oh so I didn't know it was about eight.

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Speaker 7: It's fine. I'm only giving you a citation. You do

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have to show up to court. You just take your

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indu back. You just got a sign saying that you're

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gonna show up, all right, and you can keep my

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pen because you're.

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Speaker 9: Covered in blood.

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Speaker 1: The officer issued a citation for the expired license and

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told Jared that he could not drive away. He would

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need to call someone to pick him up.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you this, You're not allowed to drive, okay,

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So I'm gonna pol over the thing again.

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Speaker 5: That's what I suggest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, you're an adult. You get caught driving, I mean,

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it's started going to show that you got a court tate,

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you know what I mean. So they're gonna they're not

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gonna give you any breaks, just gonna arrest.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Next, the officers returned to questions about the blood. By

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now they had noticed the scratches, the small cuts on

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Jared's hands and forearms. They knew that all the blood

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did not come from a nose bleed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else to tell you besides how to.

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Speaker 5: The butt all over your toes and it's like you

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bathe the blood.

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Speaker 9: That's not just a note.

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Speaker 7: If you're part of something actively bleeding from your elbows,

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so it's not just the nose.

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Speaker 12: Uh yeah, just quick.

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Speaker 1: After stepping out of the vehicle, Jared changed his story.

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He admitted the blood hadn't come from his nose.

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Speaker 8: From the blood all of your feet, it wouldn't run from.

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Speaker 4: The nose your feet. They're bleeding from the elbows currently.

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Speaker 5: The knuckles are bleeding.

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Speaker 9: So what happened?

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Speaker 5: For real?

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Speaker 4: I gotta fight with somebody and they they hit me

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and beat up.

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Speaker 7: Where this is happening in Boca.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to report this?

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Speaker 9: I mean.

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Speaker 4: No, it's no big deal to me. I mean, you

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beat the shit out of me pretty bad.

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Speaker 5: Who's this person?

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Speaker 4: I don't really know him like that. He was just

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somebody it was arguing with me.

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Speaker 1: After hearing his new explanation, the officers requested EMTs to

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the scene and asked them to do a basic check

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up on Jared. At the same time, they contacted Boca

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Raton Dispatch to check for any reports of a fight.

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's Alcor Smith with del REPETI. Hey, I just

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pulled over a guy. His name's Jared Neuman. He said

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he got into a fight in Boca with somebody. I'm

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trying to see if you guys have any batteries recently

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that you're looking for this dude.

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Speaker 5: He was covered in blood.

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Speaker 1: The Boca Raton Dispatch reported no recent calls about a fight.

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No one there. I was looking for Jared. So the

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Delray officers had a decision to make. What should they

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do with Jared and what should they do with this

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Ford explorer?

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Speaker 7: Or I got to tow the car And it looks

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like you're living in you work out of it, So

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are you able to call somebody.

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Speaker 4: I'm really not Can you please like not totally.

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Speaker 5: Call That's what I'm saying. If you can call somebody.

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Speaker 4: An if you take that car, I have nothing, I'm

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gonna be sleeping on.

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Speaker 7: I understand that, but it's also a liability on me.

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If I knowingly let you leave with the car and

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then something happens, it looks bad on me.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna happen. I'm just going to pull over in

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the nearest spot.

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Speaker 4: It just that's it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Jared pleaded with the officers not to tow his vehicle.

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He told them he worked out of it, lived out

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of it. It was all he had, So the officers

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gave him a break. They allowed him to move the

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vehicle to a nearby parking lot on the condition that

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he wouldn't drive again until has expired licensed situation was resolved.

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Jared agreed, and just like that, he was free to go.

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The next morning, about ten miles south in Boca Ratan,

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a parking garage employee arrived for work and discovered something

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waiting outside, something horrible.

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Speaker 12: He comes up the.

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Speaker 1: Show for work.

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Speaker 12: He comes up the ramp, he sees the black peg

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right on the other side of that pillar.

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Speaker 5: There's a black peg.

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Speaker 12: Don't know if it's connected enough, but he sees it,

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and well, he didn't see the blood Yetcause he's in

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his car. He sees the bag, and he's been here

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for like fifteen years, so he's used to seeing homeless

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people here. So right away you say, no, there's a

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homeless guy in here somewhere. Makes the turn as he's

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coming up the ramp. He's looking straight at that. He

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sees that, doesn't know what condition he's and he sees

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the blood. She shoots up top, parks the car, walks down,

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sees him and calls nine one one.

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Speaker 13: What's the location of your emergency?

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Speaker 8: It is in the parking ride of one South Ocean

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Boulevard in Boca ratone. There is a dead gentleman here

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with a knife wound, blood all over the place, and

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he is dead, not breathing. Yep, he is dead.

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Speaker 13: Is he in a car?

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Speaker 5: No, He's laying on the ground.

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Speaker 8: Is he white black or Hispanic white?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 8: The handle is right by his head and the nice

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part of about though, four feet away from him on

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the ground. And where is the staff? When I'm there's

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blood around his head and shoulders and there is there

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any kind of car around him? No, there's no car.

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It looks like a homeless person because he had his

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mats here and his coat and his flip floped sandals,

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and nobody else is around. Did you see anybody going

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to leave as you were coming in? No?

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Speaker 13: No.

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Speaker 1: After the parking garage worker discovered what appeared to be

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a homeless man stabbed at death, he called nine one

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one and detectives quickly arrived. What they found was an

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area saturated with blood and clear signs of a very

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brutal attack.

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Speaker 12: Almost looks like he was sleeping there and got attacked. Yeah,

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all right, stay back over here, because you got some

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blood over here, I got footprints here. Just please watched

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the stairs, blood footprints coming away from him, don't so? Yeah, please.

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Speaker 1: As detectives processed the scene, they noticed a trail of

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bloody footprints leading away from the body. It didn't take

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long for them to form a theory about what happened.

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They assumed the homeless man had been sleeping in the

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parking garage when he was attacked and stabbed repeatedly. There

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were signs of a brief struggle. Then the killer must

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have fled.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, there's knife handle is next to him up there,

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and then the blader's over here. It looks like he

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was sleeping and got attacked and then wound up over

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here and dropped. But whoever was with him walked out

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this way.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nearby detectives also recover a murder weapon, a cheap knife, long,

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sharp and broken. Yeah, he fought.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he's got you can see slice wounds, defensive. His

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hands are up on it. Yeah, he's guys. He's got

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a stab where he broke the knife off the hand,

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broke the handle off the knife.

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty good, pretty good played.

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Speaker 5: Knife still up there and everything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After several hours, the body was removed from the parking

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lot and transported to the Medical Examiner's office for an

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autopsy and hopefully an identification. As detectives continued their work,

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word began to spread the local media reported that a

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man had been found dead inside a Boca Ratan parking lot.

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Residents woke up to the news of a violent crime

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in their community, with few answers and no suspect and custody.

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Speaker 14: Bogertrump police closed off the One Ocean Plaza parking garage

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on Monday as they investigated how a man ended up

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dead with a knife wound. This section of A one

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A is a popular place for walkers and cyclist. Kevin

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Metz says he's never seen this kind of crime around here.

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Speaker 12: You know, pretty shocking, and you know East Booker Ratoni,

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you think it'd be very safe for.

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Speaker 14: Hopes it's an isolated incident.

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Speaker 15: It's sad, and it could be just a one weird

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accident that happened.

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Speaker 7: It could be something odd, because I wouldn't anticipate.

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Speaker 15: That this would be the norm, because this is a very,

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very lovely community.

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Speaker 14: And as of right now, Boca Raton police haven't released

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any information about who the victim is and their death

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investigation continues.

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Speaker 1: For a moment, the Boca Ratan police had no suspect,

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no name, no clear direction, just a body in a

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parking lot and a trail of bloody footprints leading away.

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What they didn't know, what no one in Boca Ratan knew,

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was just a few hours earlier, Adelray Beach traffic cop

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had already stopped the man responsible for this murder. He

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had blood on his face, on his chest, on his hands,

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and they just let him go. On the morning of

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February third, twenty twenty, Boca Raton detectives were investigating a

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fatal stabbing inside a parking lot. A man had been

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found dead, bloody footprints led away from the scene. There

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was no suspect in custody. Just hours earlier, in a

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neighboring city, a patrol officer had stopped the white Ford

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Explorer driven by a young man covered in blood. The

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two encounters had not been connected yet, but that wouldn't last.

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After reviewing surveillance and processing the scene, detectives began zeroing

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in on a name. An arrest warrant was issued for

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twenty six year old Jared Neuman, and it didn't take

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long for Boca Raton police to find him. Once again,

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Jared was behind the wheel of a white Ford Explorer,

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but this time when officers pulled him over, they approached

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him with their guns drawn.

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Speaker 6: Burn your vehicle.

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Speaker 16: Off, driver, roll down your window, river lake, your hands

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outside of the vehicle. Full hands outside of the vehicle,

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full pands, keeping your hands outside of the vehicle, use

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your left hand to open the driver's side door and

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step out.

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Speaker 1: During this traffic stop, Jared was taken into custody without insident.

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His explorer was seized and Jared was brought into the

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police station where two homicide detectives were waiting to question him.

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Speaker 10: So, your first name was Jared, right in your last

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name theoymany An?

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Speaker 17: And what's your birthday?

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Speaker 4: One sixteen ninety four?

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Speaker 6: And you have an address? No? Where do you currently stay? At?

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Speaker 9: My car?

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Speaker 6: In your car?

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Speaker 17: What kind of car is up for deploys?

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Speaker 6: It registered too?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you been doing that.

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Speaker 4: In the car a couple of years now. Oh well,

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I have a job though, I'm trying to get a place.

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Speaker 5: So I heard you doing.

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Speaker 4: I do like like a restaurant and firehouse huves?

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Speaker 17: Oh good here in the city.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, do you like it?

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Speaker 4: I don't particular who like it? Put a need to money,

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so make sure I go every day.

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Speaker 1: Before outright addressing their murder investigation, the detectives took their

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time and began the interview by asking Jared about his background.

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Speaker 6: You said your.

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Speaker 10: Parents had a divorce when you or twelve, but then

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but then you lived with mom.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you stayed in Ohio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: When did you move down here.

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Speaker 4: In Florida when I was eighteen?

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Speaker 17: You're eighteen, okay? And who did you stay with what

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you got down here.

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Speaker 4: I just moved down here. I stayed with by myself in.

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Speaker 6: Like an apartment, a house.

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Speaker 4: Or like I was just gonna stay in my car.

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Speaker 1: From the start, something about Jared's responses felt a little off.

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You didn't appear nervous or confused, but his answers were

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guarded and they didn't always add up. Follow Up questions

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about his background often contradicted details he had just mentioned

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moments earlier.

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Speaker 5: So your parents don't lived together, right, Okay?

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Speaker 9: Do you see them often? My parents?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I'm down here.

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Speaker 9: How long a se me?

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Speaker 5: Did they come visit or anything?

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Speaker 6: Or did they work?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: My mom's working.

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Speaker 17: What do they do?

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Speaker 4: My mom was a nurse. I'm I'm really sure my

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dad does that. I I stopped talking to him.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you guys have fallout.

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Speaker 2: I like a fall I just you know, nobody in

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the family really talks to him, Like I don't talk

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to him.

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Speaker 4: I probably don't talk to him.

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Speaker 6: Why is that?

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Speaker 4: It's just I don't know. He's just a weird person.

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Speaker 2: Do you have mental problems or drug I think he does,

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but he won't admit it. He's like the type of

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person that says, tells everyone else there crazy, and then

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everyone else is saying, no, you're crazy, and he's like.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's just distance yourself and people like

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that was the.

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Speaker 5: Last time you saw him?

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Speaker 9: A few years? How about your mom? It's just every years. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Next, the detectives shifted their focus to a key piece

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of the investigation, Jared's vehicle. The white Ford explore that car.

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Speaker 9: That you have, does anyone else drive it? No, You're

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the only one that drives it. Yeah, because there's there

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was like some tools and stuff in there. Those that's

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for works. What are you to do with those?

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Speaker 4: There was a paining job.

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Speaker 9: Uh what kind of painting?

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Speaker 18: What do you mean?

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Speaker 19: What kind of like interior exterior finishing business?

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Speaker 4: Just uh, exterior pan I will go to do that.

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Speaker 9: This is this is like we're just curious. We're just

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trying to get to know.

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Speaker 5: Because we saw that starting there, Like it almost seems

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like there was more than one person.

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Speaker 4: Really weird questions.

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Speaker 5: She seems like this more than one person living in the.

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Speaker 2: Car and stuff like that went on personally in the car.

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Speaker 9: I'll stop for more than one person.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, just you Yeah, Okay, and he said it was

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registered to you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First, Jared told detectives he worked at fire house sucks,

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but when asked about the tools and supplies and his explore,

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he claimed to also be a painter. The story didn't

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really add up, and detectives already knew the vehicle wasn't

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registered to Jared. They also knew that he wasn't the

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only person living out of it.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that car, oh man, two years and you

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lived in a car.

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Speaker 4: And that's where you in the car.

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Speaker 6: Where do you normally stay? Like where do you park

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it at night?

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Speaker 4: Like you probably like in the part of the whole parking.

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Speaker 2: Lot here, Yeah, park the front, in the back, just

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towards the back.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what are you doing to get cleaned up and stuff?

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Speaker 9: I remember?

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Speaker 4: Fitness? Okay, fitness show.

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Speaker 1: The detectives also questioned Jared about his criminal history, even

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though they already knew this wasn't his first encounter with

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law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: Have you been in trouble before? And what have you

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ever been in trouble before? Have you ever had him

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right written to you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: What were you in trouble before before?

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Speaker 2: Just like just like small tercations and all stuff that

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you know, I just made a mistake, and you know,

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to make.

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Speaker 5: Not the major not at all them done the same thing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, bull had decisions.

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Speaker 5: Anything recent, not really.

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Speaker 1: None of what Jared told detectives about his record was true.

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At just twenty six years old, he had already accumulated

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a growing list of pretty serious criminal charges.

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Speaker 20: Police say this isn't Neuman's first run in with the law.

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He was arrested on February twenty second. In June nineteenth

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for simple battery against strangers, and he was interviewed by

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law enforcement in October after posting Facebook comments with threats

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to kill, do bodily injury, or conduct a mass shooting

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or an act of terrorism.

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Speaker 1: After hearing Jared lie about his record and the ownership

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of the Ford Explorer, detectives shifted their focus to the

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night before the bloody traffic stop in Delray Beach. When

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the Delray cops asked why Jared had been covered in blood,

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he offered a simple explanation. He claimed he'd been in

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a fight.

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Speaker 10: So taking back to again, this didn't happen last night,

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because this is the that's the main thing that we're

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concerned about, is this person trying to locate them.

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Speaker 4: I don't have any information.

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Speaker 17: You don't have anything else, you know their phone number

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or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know them like that.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So after you left the traffic stop at del right,

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did you go anywhere to clean yourself up?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what is all this for? Why am I

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being questioned in all this?

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Speaker 9: So?

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Speaker 10: Well, you're pretty you had a lot of blood on

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you right last night when they came into mart right.

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Speaker 6: But when a violent crime.

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Speaker 10: Happens in Boca, then it becomes our problem because we

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have somebody out there who'd already are people.

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Speaker 4: I can't go get the guy for you. I don't

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know where he lives. I don't know him like that.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's this certain things that you've been telling us

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that just kind of don't like they're like really easy questions,

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Like it seems like you're not telling us the truth.

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Speaker 1: On After pressing Jared a bit more, detectives were able

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to get him to give up a few more details

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about this supposed fight that he had.

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Speaker 4: He just approached me.

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Speaker 2: He was very aggressive and we argued for a minute,

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and then he started attacking me and I fought back,

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and we just kind of got into a fight and eventually,

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you know, he just stopped and got tired.

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Speaker 4: And just walked off, and I walked off and that

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was it.

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Speaker 6: Where did this happen at?

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Speaker 4: It was in Boca well like where it was like

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somewhere on your motto?

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Speaker 2: Like I was walking, you know, and he just approached

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me and I've seen him a couple of times.

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Speaker 9: Like he kind of knows me not really.

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Speaker 6: Do you know? Like your mom's a pretty big route.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, Like I was like just

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walking in and like Patent was specifically where.

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Speaker 6: I was, And who's the guy that confronts you?

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Speaker 9: I don't know his name?

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Speaker 6: How do you know? Like how have you seen?

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Speaker 2: I've just seen him a couple of times, Like he's

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talked to me before, like briefly, but.

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Speaker 17: Like where have you where have you seen him at?

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Speaker 4: I was just like around like here and there?

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Speaker 9: Can you describe him?

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Speaker 4: I mean, like how male?

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Speaker 5: Female?

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Speaker 9: Lack?

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Speaker 6: This fan?

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Speaker 9: Black?

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Speaker 5: Black mail?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

482
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:03,519
Speaker 9: Black?

483
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:03,759
Speaker 17: Now?

484
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:08,279
Speaker 9: I thought? How old he is?

485
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: I have no idea? I mean twenty thirty forty.

486
00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 9: I don't know.

487
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 5: Do you think you got the best of him or

488
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:15,319
he got the best of you?

489
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: He definitely got the best of me.

490
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 9: Oh really?

491
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:17,599
Speaker 6: Yeah?

492
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,519
Speaker 5: So you got the worst with the cuts and everything.

493
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was fine.

494
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, how annoying is it when people are vague

495
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:30,079
like this, intentionally obtuse, tell me you're lying without telling

496
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,759
me you're lying. As detectives continued pressing for specifics, his

497
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,279
demeanor began to shift. For the first time, Jared's composure

498
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,599
appeared to slip.

499
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 9: Where'd you get up going after work? Where you going

500
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,480
after work?

501
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,319
Speaker 10: Just in my car?

502
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 17: There's something that's going on you want to tell us about.

503
00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 10: You look like you're episode about something. Yeah, you just

504
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,039
looked like you got lost in thought for a second.

505
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:55,599
I just want to make sure that there's not a

506
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,200
missing piece to this that you hold him back on it.

507
00:24:58,279 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 9: Are all right?

508
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

509
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:01,039
Speaker 13: That okay.

510
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,759
Speaker 1: Up to this point, the detectives had allowed Jared room

511
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:11,000
to talk, to explain, to revise, to hedge, but eventually

512
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,240
that changed. Detectives stopped trying to understand the story and

513
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:18,599
began challenging it.

514
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 19: And we know it didn't happen on your motto, and

515
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,880
we know that your car wasn't at the McDonald's, and

516
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,279
we kind of know where you are.

517
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 17: All right, So what can you tell us about what

518
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,359
actually happened.

519
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: I don't have any any more information. I just whatever

520
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,720
I said is what I was saying.

521
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,559
Speaker 9: Will you buy the beach yesterday? What is this about?

522
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: Just ask anywhere you play the beach yesterday.

523
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 9: I don't want to.

524
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: Answer any more questions. I feel like, I mean, like

525
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,960
targeting or something.

526
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,279
Speaker 1: The shift in the detective's tone had a noticeable effect.

527
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:59,920
Jared began to retreat. His answers grew shorter. Then he

528
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,480
stopped answering altogether. But the detectives didn't ease up. They

529
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:09,559
doubled down and confronted Jared with more of the inconsistencies

530
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:10,559
in a story.

531
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 6: We know that you were over by the beach last night.

532
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:19,079
Speaker 17: Okay, you're on video at seven eleven. Okay, we know.

533
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 6: I don't know why you're distancing yourself from your dad.

534
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 10: You don't want to talk about your dad. We know

535
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,720
the vehicles registered to him. Okay, it's not registered to you.

536
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,359
We know that you guys were together in the vehicle

537
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,359
a month ago, right you got arrested.

538
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,759
Speaker 6: You got into a domestic with him.

539
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 17: You were living down here with him.

540
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 6: And you're lying and telling us that he's living with

541
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680
his mom somewhere. So there's all these things that you're

542
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,680
telling us that you're lying to us about, and I

543
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,079
think it's because you're upset with what happened last night.

544
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:53,079
Speaker 10: Understandably, Okay, but you need to tell us the truth

545
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:53,480
about what.

546
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,039
Speaker 6: Exactly happened because you're lying.

547
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,519
Speaker 10: There's all these things that we know that you're lying about,

548
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
but we just need to know exactly what happened.

549
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,319
Speaker 9: What did happen? That's what we need you to tell us.

550
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,599
Speaker 4: Jared, Can you tell me?

551
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,599
Speaker 9: Because I don't know what happened.

552
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,039
Speaker 1: After more than an hour of questioning, the detectives stopped circling.

553
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,480
They moved directly to the reason why Jared was in

554
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,079
that room, the bloody and fatal stabbing in the parking lot.

555
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,559
Speaker 6: So we saw how much blood there was on you.

556
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 10: I also see the injuries that you have. All that

557
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,559
blood was not your blood, okay.

558
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 6: So that blood's going to.

559
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 17: Be in your car, okay, and you know what that's

560
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,799
going to come back to.

561
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 6: What who's the blood going to come back to? What

562
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:39,119
do you mean in your car?

563
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,839
Speaker 10: The blood in your car that was all over you,

564
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,200
that's not yours Because you only have.

565
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 6: A couple of small injuries.

566
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,039
Speaker 9: You're seeing blood in my car.

567
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 10: There was blood all over you last night, all over

568
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,039
your face, all over both of your arms, all over

569
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:53,839
your pant legs, all over your feet.

570
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,079
Speaker 5: I could see it on the outside of your car

571
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,000
and on your arm wrest and on the center console.

572
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,839
From standing outside your car, you can see.

573
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 6: It, that blood. That was a lot of fler.

574
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,079
Speaker 9: We don't know who you gotta fight with. We need

575
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,279
you to tell us who you gotta fight We know

576
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000
the person, I don't know the we do.

577
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:13,519
Speaker 4: How do you know the person we use?

578
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 9: Telling him?

579
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 21: Just asking me about them, because we're seeing how honest

580
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,720
you're gonna be with this, and we don't think you're

581
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:19,240
honest at all.

582
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,039
Speaker 1: Next, the detectives turned their attention to the victim. They

583
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,759
already knew who he was, and so did Jared.

584
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 19: Since that's your dad's car, how do we get ahold

585
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,440
of your dad to tell him that's his car and

586
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,599
we have it because we got to release to somebody.

587
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 9: Where is he? Do you have a number for him?

588
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 18: No?

589
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,599
Speaker 9: What was the last time you saw him? Why even?

590
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: Why is that a tough question for you? It's really not.

591
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:46,839
Speaker 4: It's just I don't even know why.

592
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,519
Speaker 21: I'm asked one of the last time you saw your

593
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:51,559
dad because I look at this, But Mom, you need

594
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,000
to get his car back to him.

595
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 4: No, I'm the one using it.

596
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 5: Is you don't understand it's a registered to him, my law.

597
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,039
He's the only one that can get the.

598
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,279
Speaker 4: Okay, then he can come get it when he needs

599
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:02,759
to get it.

600
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 9: He won't know where it's at.

601
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to contact I can contact him.

602
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,039
Speaker 9: Wow, I just don't want to answer my question.

603
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,279
Speaker 5: What was the last time you saw your dad?

604
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:14,799
Speaker 4: When it was the less time you saw him?

605
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to say.

606
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,759
Speaker 1: Today today, the victim in this homicide investigation, the man

607
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,880
found brutally stabbed to death inside a Boca Raton parking lot,

608
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,480
was fifty nine year old Jay Noyman. He was Jareded's father.

609
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 22: So obviously, Jared, we're here about your dad, and we

610
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,160
can't tell with my dad.

611
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,839
Speaker 9: We can't be any more clear about that.

612
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,319
Speaker 4: Why are you here about my dad?

613
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:45,519
Speaker 9: Tell us?

614
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: I would like you to tell me. Why are you

615
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,200
here about my dad?

616
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,039
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's obvious that you know because all

617
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,880
the questions that you've been avoiding today have had some

618
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:57,000
sort of relation.

619
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:57,359
Speaker 13: To your dad.

620
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,279
Speaker 10: There are certain things that you've been honest about out

621
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,400
and certain things that you've lied about, and every.

622
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 6: Single thing that you've lied about is how to do

623
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:04,599
with your dad?

624
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:06,799
Speaker 5: What was going on?

625
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,119
Speaker 1: When the conversation turned to his father, Jared responded the

626
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,640
same way he had all along. He acted as if

627
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,480
he didn't understand what the detectives were asking. It's like,

628
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,680
all of a sudden, he doesn't understand English. Some people

629
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,440
really suck that line.

630
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,119
Speaker 9: So forces you're what really is?

631
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: What is enforcement?

632
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 19: Because as my partner said, you're well aware while you're here,

633
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,400
and you're.

634
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: Well aware of the situation that's going on. No, I'm

635
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,359
not to sit here and you sit.

636
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,599
Speaker 9: Here and act like you are. I thought you were

637
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,000
more of.

638
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: A man, and I thought you were more of a

639
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,720
decent person.

640
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:53,319
Speaker 4: I really much souing. I'm homeless, I'm poor. I fucking

641
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,319
I don't what do you mean an excuse?

642
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: I'm just saying.

643
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that I'm not a great person. Okay,

644
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,720
I'm homeless, I'm poor. I don't have a lot of

645
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,640
stuff in my life.

646
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: When confusion failed, Jared changed his approach and he cast

647
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:14,400
himself as a victim. Of course, Oh poor little Jahwait yet,

648
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,519
Even in that shift towards self pity, this story remained inconsistent.

649
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,319
Speaker 4: What so you don't even know this?

650
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 9: My dad?

651
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: They were talking to this, but we need to confirm it.

652
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,039
Speaker 4: Before we say anything.

653
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: Is so you don't know? Well, yeah, so my dad's fine.

654
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: You just I don't know.

655
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,359
Speaker 9: You don't know. I don't know. Maybe I don't want

656
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,720
to tell you.

657
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:36,799
Speaker 5: Say what you don't want to tell you?

658
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:42,519
Speaker 4: You have to tell me anything? Yeah, I mean I

659
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:44,000
know everything in my life is fine.

660
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:44,799
Speaker 9: So it is.

661
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said it shipped two minutes ago.

662
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 1: Despite Jared's attempts to steer the conversation elsewhere, detectives kept

663
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:58,079
bringing it back to his father, you know, the victim.

664
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,359
Before long, they raised a he's an incident, one that

665
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,759
had resulted in Jared getting arrested for assaulting his dad.

666
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: So what I'm asking is I pass me off about

667
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,000
my dad. I'm trying to figure out what set you

668
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:11,759
off that day.

669
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: I thought that little assault charge that they dropped because

670
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,319
I didn't have that's worth.

671
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was nothing.

672
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 5: He just he's like he was like a whim.

673
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 6: He's just called the police, but like what what why?

674
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,599
Speaker 5: Like he was a whim?

675
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, he just.

676
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: He's like the first person who like jump on the

677
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,279
phone and calling out on one.

678
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,039
Speaker 6: Does he like get pissed off that you aren't working

679
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,039
as hard as you should.

680
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,039
Speaker 9: I don't know.

681
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,519
Speaker 5: I don't know anything.

682
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,559
Speaker 4: About my dad. I don't know, Like I never knew him.

683
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Since the day I was born to now, I never

684
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,519
knew a single thing about him because he doesn't like

685
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,400
to share, he doesn't like communic.

686
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,279
Speaker 6: Hat stand offish.

687
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's in his own little egotistical world

688
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:56,519
with it all revolves around him.

689
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,519
Speaker 4: So I can't you know, It's it's like when talking

690
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:00,319
to a wall, and I.

691
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:03,599
Speaker 6: Talked to him, right, So how do you your point across?

692
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,359
Speaker 9: I don't.

693
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,079
Speaker 4: You don't know, I just get ignored.

694
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,839
Speaker 1: Bringing up the recent assault shifted the tone of the interview.

695
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Jared began speaking more freely about his father, about their relationship,

696
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,880
the tension between them. So the detectives leaned into that

697
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:24,440
and let Jared continue. When somebody starts digging hand them

698
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,079
as shovel, I mean.

699
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,799
Speaker 6: Some people just real like that, you know what I mean.

700
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,240
No matter how much you talk to him or how

701
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,000
much you say you'm going to get in to him.

702
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, he was frustrating, you know, trying to cooperate

703
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,599
with somebody and they don't want to cooperate.

704
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,559
Speaker 6: It, and you know, well, what are you trying to

705
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:40,200
collaborate on?

706
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,519
Speaker 4: Everything? Everything?

707
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: I tried everything to cooperate and have agreement and peace,

708
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,039
and he was not interested in.

709
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,519
Speaker 1: Captain Vagueness began to unload his frustrations about his father.

710
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Before long, the detectives attempted to steer the conversation towards

711
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,519
a resolution, offering him a softer path forward. They asked

712
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,440
him to tell them what really happened.

713
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 9: The picture that you kind of painted. I'm kind of

714
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,199
on your side as.

715
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:17,519
Speaker 22: To what you're going through and what your dad was

716
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:21,440
putting you through and the pressures you were feeling and

717
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:26,599
the personality conflict. So I didn't understand that if something

718
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,320
happened between you guys and.

719
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 9: It broke bad.

720
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,079
Speaker 19: But unless you tell us what actually happened and stop

721
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,800
beating around the bush.

722
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're even talking about last night.

723
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,599
Speaker 9: Okay, tell us what happened.

724
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,079
Speaker 2: It's not that hard, it's very basically what did I

725
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:47,960
do last night?

726
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the strategy didn't work. Jared retreated once again responding

727
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,000
as though he didn't understand what detectives were asking. The

728
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:02,119
conversation stalled, circling back over ground they had already covered.

729
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 10: I want you to tell me about what you got

730
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,559
into your most recent argument, about.

731
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 4: Most recent argument. Why do you want to know what

732
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,079
most recent argument was about?

733
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,599
Speaker 6: Because everything here revolves around your dad.

734
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 4: Everything here, the.

735
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 6: Reason why we're hearing the revalls are my dad.

736
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, you gonna tell me what happened with my dad?

737
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,679
Speaker 6: That's what I'm wanting you to tell me.

738
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,199
Speaker 4: How would I know what happened with my dad.

739
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 17: Because you're with him?

740
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:31,559
Speaker 4: What do you mean him with him?

741
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,079
Speaker 6: You were with him when earlier this morning?

742
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,159
Speaker 1: Yet again the detectives shifted tactics. They returned to confronting

743
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Jared with the inconsistencies and his statements.

744
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 19: So the dad who you told us earlier tonight lives

745
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,079
with his.

746
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: Mom in Ohio.

747
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 6: I don't just listen, just listen.

748
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,199
Speaker 21: So your dad's mom is deceased, correct, yes, okay, so

749
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,559
he doesn't live with her. And then you told us

750
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,519
that you haven't had any contact with him in years,

751
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,760
which she just pointed out a case a month ago

752
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,280
where you were arrested because.

753
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: You and him are fighting in a parking lot. And

754
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,639
then I'll just ask you a question if you and

755
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,840
him live in the trunk.

756
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,639
Speaker 9: And he said yes.

757
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,639
Speaker 19: And then I asked you if his stuff is in

758
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880
the truck and you said yes, correct?

759
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,559
Speaker 9: Is that correct?

760
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: Why do I have to answer that?

761
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 21: You know, that's just the serials question I'm asking that

762
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,559
showed you're being deceitful.

763
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,639
Speaker 5: And you said you believe in the truth and you

764
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,480
believe in fact.

765
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 21: Obviously you're lying because you don't believe in the truth

766
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,440
and you don't believe in fact.

767
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 9: Is that correct?

768
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:29,559
Speaker 5: I just set a yes or no.

769
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: You just through my head to another world.

770
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,599
Speaker 9: I didn't mean to do that. I apologized.

771
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 10: He's trying to explain to you all the things that

772
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,320
you lie about today, and I.

773
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: Feel like I have to put my business out there

774
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,119
like that.

775
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 10: You know, well, when it comes to matters that are

776
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,039
involving the police and the reason is that we're questioning you,

777
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:51,039
then yeah it matters.

778
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:52,559
Speaker 9: Well, well it.

779
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: May matter, but it's still you know, my business.

780
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,639
Speaker 2: And if I don't want to share my personal business

781
00:36:57,679 --> 00:36:58,719
with other people.

782
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 4: That I don't know who aren't doing anything good.

783
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,039
Speaker 15: Right, But.

784
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: How do you think that's going to look for you

785
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,360
in terms of why.

786
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: Next, the detectives began laying out the physical evidence. Step

787
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,159
by step, they explained how it contradicted Jared's claim of

788
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:18,920
being attacked and instead pointed to him as the attacker.

789
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,679
Speaker 17: Do you know what the evidence is telling me right now?

790
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:23,639
Speaker 4: You said injured the person.

791
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 6: It's telling me that you were the aggressor?

792
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: Really mm hm.

793
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 10: So that's why I'm asking you for your side of

794
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,159
the story. Because all the physical evidence, or by physical evidence,

795
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:40,280
I mean the blood, everything else that's on, seeing the video, surveillance,

796
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,880
your phone, everything, all of that is telling me that

797
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,920
you were the aggressor in this situation. And without knowing

798
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,679
the reasoning, we're kind of stuck. And I don't want

799
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,440
to picture you as a bad person who would just

800
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,559
go out and do something for no reason. I don't

801
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,000
think that's the case. I think that there's a reason

802
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,920
for what happened. But unfortunately, unless you tell us, walls

803
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,760
were stuck with is the facts and what we're looking at.

804
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,039
Speaker 17: And the facts don't make you seem very good.

805
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was injured that bad. Yeah,

806
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:13,559
I mean I thought I was more injured than him.

807
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,719
I don't I didn't see them get injured.

808
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: I was the one on the ground. He was standing

809
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:17,880
over me.

810
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Despite the evidence, Jared continued to insist that he had

811
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:25,199
been attacked, not his father, but by an unknown black man.

812
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,880
He claimed it confronted him yet again. Detectives challenged this

813
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,519
claim immediately. Then the tone in the room shifted. Patients

814
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:39,920
were thin, and this interrogation began to break down completely.

815
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,639
Speaker 5: So here we are back to that.

816
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 22: When you don't feel asking answering the question, you answer

817
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,079
the questions and you have a good dialogue with us.

818
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: But when Jared gets uncomfortable and Jared.

819
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,559
Speaker 9: It's stupid to me, it's not stupid.

820
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,119
Speaker 2: Well, and again you have you have enough evidence to

821
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,599
going to make somebody in the hurry to your people listen.

822
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 9: So what more do you need out of me?

823
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: Let me just look? Yeah, go ahead, I said it before.

824
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 9: You don't ire No, how do you don't care?

825
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: You don't care?

826
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,079
Speaker 9: Okay, what do you is?

827
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 19: That's the attitude you take instead of answering the question.

828
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,639
Speaker 5: You laugh. I do not care about this whole situation

829
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,679
and the person that you heard.

830
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:17,679
Speaker 2: Okay, as far as I know, I didn't hurt anyone,

831
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,440
So tell him.

832
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,599
Speaker 6: I don't know how holds and care about somebody.

833
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,079
Speaker 4: I don't even know what you heard. You got them

834
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:23,760
with altercations?

835
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,559
Speaker 6: Yes, I that.

836
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 4: Person did not look injured to me. They walked away

837
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,440
like Wally.

838
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: Tell you they are okay.

839
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,119
Speaker 2: Then if they want to pursue charges, then I'll do here.

840
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 6: I do care.

841
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 9: I didn't.

842
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to injure them.

843
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,039
Speaker 6: This and just I have no know how did they happen?

844
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 9: How did you injure them?

845
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: I guess when we were fighting.

846
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,119
Speaker 2: I don't know.

847
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 4: I guess I want to hit him.

848
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 9: I mean he I can tell you.

849
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: The injuries aren't consistent with fighting.

850
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 9: Did you have a weapon on you? Did you have a.

851
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: Gun with you? I had four guns.

852
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,599
Speaker 21: Did you have any knives with you?

853
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: Maybe the hundred?

854
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:57,079
Speaker 9: What kind of knights?

855
00:39:57,559 --> 00:39:57,679
Speaker 17: Uh?

856
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 4: The machetes from.

857
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 6: The goal.

858
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 9: Many other women.

859
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 4: I had a laser four so it support issues the laser. Yeah,

860
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,159
it's a new scientific invention.

861
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 19: Thegan the smush, she said before the smart hell againswers.

862
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 22: When you're sitting here, I mean if you got away articular,

863
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,119
I asked you if you had a woman, and.

864
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: I already answer you sold you know, and then you

865
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,840
didn't take my word for you can past as you

866
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:28,599
take over your work for.

867
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: When you lie to us so many there won't take

868
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,280
my word for anything. You apparently have an ividence work

869
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,880
or do you need it?

870
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 17: Giving you more and more chances to try and be

871
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:36,760
honest with us?

872
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: And we already told you a live one out of you.

873
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,159
Speaker 8: We want the why?

874
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 5: Why? Why? What?

875
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,119
Speaker 1: Eventually the detective stepped back. The interview had reached a standstill,

876
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,880
but before they left the room, something unexpected happened, something

877
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,079
that doesn't happen often during a police interrogation. The suspect

878
00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:01,239
freely admitted that much of what he said wasn't true.

879
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,039
Speaker 6: All right, Jared, Right, he's for everything he told me.

880
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 10: Today's the truth to WoT truth, nothing but the truth

881
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,400
be God, no, no, no, I.

882
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 9: Know'm mine.

883
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: Almost things I said. I told you I was lying.

884
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: Do you want to tell us anything truthful before we go?

885
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 4: I mean not really.

886
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Jared delivered this admission calmly and casually, with an unusual confidence.

887
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:33,519
He acknowledged that he had lied, but when detectives left

888
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:38,400
him alone in the interrogation room, his composure didn't hold up.

889
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,400
Jared broke down and began sobbing uncontrollably.

890
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 15: Mm hmm, Hey, I had some noises coming out of here, right, yeah,

891
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,320
it's gone.

892
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 6: It's crying.

893
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 17: No, no, there's water coming out of your eyes.

894
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,079
Speaker 1: Believing they were on the verge of a breakthrough, the

895
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:32,360
detectives re entered the room. They tried to steady Jared

896
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,760
with that big brother, big sister thing they do to

897
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,920
reason with him, to guide him towards a full account

898
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,480
of what had happened, but in this moment didn't hold.

899
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: I think you're torn jar between taking responsibilities for this

900
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:47,360
and not.

901
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: I, Like I said, I you know, as far as

902
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,039
I know why, I didn't do anything. So I'm going

903
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:55,559
to trial.

904
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 9: You have evident answer and.

905
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,599
Speaker 4: You can get an conviction, and good for you. I'm

906
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,119
going to be going to trial, all right.

907
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 9: That's for luck to you. Good luck to you.

908
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 13: Yeah.

909
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: The interrogation finally came to an end. Detectives had challenged Jared,

910
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:22,239
pressed him, confronted him with the inconsistencies and the evidence,

911
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:27,360
but without a clear admission and without enough established probable

912
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,840
cause for murder, their options were limited. Jared was booked

913
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,920
on a traffic offense, and then he was released after

914
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:42,840
hours inside that interrogation room, after the blood, after the contradictions,

915
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,159
Jared walked out of the station a free man. For

916
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,199
the moment, there was nothing that law enforcement could do

917
00:43:52,880 --> 00:44:17,159
to stop him. On the night of February second, twenty twenty,

918
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,400
a white Ford Explorer was pulled over in Delray Beach, Florida.

919
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,360
The driver was twenty six year old Jared Noyman. He

920
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:31,440
was calm, cooperative, and covered in blood. Jared offered shifting

921
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,880
explanations and was eventually allowed to park his vehicle and

922
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:38,599
walk away. The next morning, about ten miles from that

923
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,119
traffic stop, inside a Boca Raton parking garage, a man

924
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,639
was found stabbed to death. Detectives recovered a broken knife

925
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,599
near his body and a trail of bloody footprints leading

926
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:54,199
away from the scene. The victim was identified as fifty

927
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,599
nine year old j Neuman. He was Jared's father. By

928
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,519
the time detectives brought Jared in for questioning, they believe

929
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:08,199
the evidence pointed directly at him. Inside the interrogation room,

930
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:14,400
Jared deflected, he contradicted himself. He blamed a stranger he

931
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,079
broke down, but without a clear admission and without enough

932
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:23,559
to establish probable cause for murder, Detectives were forced to

933
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,000
release him. For a brief time, Jared Neuman was a

934
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:33,400
free man, but then something unexpected happened. The following day,

935
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,599
Jared returned to the Boca Ratan Police Department and asked

936
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:38,960
to speak with detectives again.

937
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:46,679
Speaker 6: He said, you wanted to talk to me? Yeah, what's uh?

938
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: I would just I would like to confess to the

939
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,840
murder of my father.

940
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: Okay, I appreciate you coming in and man enough and

941
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:56,639
saying that.

942
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,599
Speaker 1: Jared didn't only return to the police station. He came

943
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:04,320
back to confess to killing his father, and when he

944
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,840
began speaking, he gave detectives what they had been trying

945
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:14,440
to uncover since the beginning. Jared told them, why, I think.

946
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: I just had a huge lapse of judgment.

947
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 9: My dad.

948
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to make excuses for why

949
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,840
I did what I did, because there's no excuse sort.

950
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,480
But I was very stressed out and unhappy.

951
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,679
Speaker 23: My dad would constantly disrespect me, and I felt like

952
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,679
I was being bullied and harassed. And when I was

953
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,519
in jail, in prison and around all these like criminalized people,

954
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:38,719
they'd always talked about how when people do bad things

955
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,719
to you. You have to stand up for yourself, and

956
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,280
you have to usually, you know, retaliate with violence, and

957
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,400
has been so grated into my head that I was

958
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,320
consistently on it because it's a basis thinking about violence

959
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440
when people were mean to me and I didn't know

960
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440
how to make them stop otherwise.

961
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: You know, my dad would always call the police on

962
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,400
me if I got violent towards him, like physically, and

963
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,360
then you know, it just got to a point where

964
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,400
I was like, the only way to make.

965
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,039
Speaker 4: His stop is to do this, and.

966
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,199
Speaker 9: I didn't.

967
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, I didn't know what I was doing.

968
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 5: I didn't know what he didn't deserve that.

969
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,679
Speaker 4: I just didn't know.

970
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,039
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know what I did until it was

971
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,199
it was over and I realized what I did.

972
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 9: I didn't.

973
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what the hell did I just do?

974
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,519
Speaker 1: Like, as Jared explained why he killed his father, his

975
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,039
tone was much different than a day ago. The defiance,

976
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:33,960
the guarded answers were gone and their place was something else,

977
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,840
whether it was remorse, guilt, or simply exhaustion. It sounded real.

978
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: I didn't deserve that.

979
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 23: I mean, it wasn't the nicest person to me, But

980
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,719
I don't think he deserved to die like that.

981
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,079
Speaker 4: It was horrible. I mean remember every second of all.

982
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:53,599
If you didn't do that, it just felt like I

983
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:56,440
was pushed too far and I just I just reacted

984
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:58,000
in a bad way.

985
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:04,039
Speaker 1: After Jared explained why, the detectives turned to the details,

986
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:07,400
asking him to walk them through exactly what had happened

987
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,440
between him and his father.

988
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:12,039
Speaker 10: Does he always sleep outside of the car and you

989
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:14,800
sleep in the car even when it's cold out.

990
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean he usually either takes two blankets or he'll

991
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,400
like sleep in this like corridor spot.

992
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,079
Speaker 6: Okay. Where so where was the car park.

993
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,679
Speaker 2: Just like on the first floor, and where was he

994
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,239
sleeping at? He was upstairs on like the one of

995
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,119
the higher floors.

996
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,679
Speaker 10: Okay, So what happened that let out take me to

997
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,920
be likely what happened?

998
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,599
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing really like happened that made that happen.

999
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,320
It is just like something i'd been like I just

1000
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440
thought of, you know, It's just like kind of just

1001
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,159
came over me.

1002
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,119
Speaker 1: Jared admitted he had been contemplating his father's death for

1003
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:56,760
some time, and on a cold February night, he put

1004
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,719
that thought into motion.

1005
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,679
Speaker 6: I know this art it's hard.

1006
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 17: To talk about, but can you tell me exactly what

1007
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,280
you did to him?

1008
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was sleeping and.

1009
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: I walked up and I had a knife in my hand,

1010
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,280
and I think the blanket was over his head and

1011
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,360
I pulled a blanket off, and I think I started

1012
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,079
stabbing him in.

1013
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:21,519
Speaker 4: The throat like blood like, you know, telling me to

1014
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:27,280
stop like and I didn't you know what I said. No,

1015
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,320
I didn't know what I was doing at all, you know.

1016
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:33,960
And he fell on the.

1017
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: Ground as a boy, and you know, I started choking

1018
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,239
him and I just told him just.

1019
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,039
Speaker 4: To go to sleep, you know, to stop fighting. Just

1020
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,199
go to sleep. I sold him life, to leave his

1021
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,199
eyes and everything.

1022
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Jared described the attack as sudden, chaotic, and bloody. He

1023
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:59,400
stabbed his father repeatedly. There was a brief struggle in

1024
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,239
the end was overpowered. The assault was so forceful that

1025
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,599
the blade of the knife eventually snapped from its handle.

1026
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 6: What where'd the knife that you used? How did you

1027
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,079
get that?

1028
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:16,199
Speaker 3: I bought the Dollar's door that day or earlier that day,

1029
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,679
Earlier that day, So.

1030
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,559
Speaker 6: You went in there and you bought that knife? Did

1031
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:20,519
you buy anything else with.

1032
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,039
Speaker 4: It at the dollar store?

1033
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1034
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,199
Speaker 23: I bought like a bunch of trash bags and some gloves.

1035
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,559
Speaker 10: When you went to the dollar store initially to buy

1036
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,280
the knife, is that what you were thinking.

1037
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: About, Well, that's why I bought the knife via to.

1038
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,599
Speaker 17: Kill your dad.

1039
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1040
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:41,559
Speaker 1: By jared'sn't account, this killing wasn't spontaneous. He admitted to

1041
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,119
planning it, and he even admitted to thinking about the

1042
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,880
better option, which would have been to simply walk away

1043
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,519
from his father and start over somewhere else.

1044
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 2: And it was hard to decide that to just deal

1045
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,199
with things.

1046
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: But I told myself, you know, like maybe I.

1047
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 2: Just need to work hard and do the right thing

1048
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,239
and you know, and just like just move out when uh,

1049
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,519
you know, when the time comes, and then I can

1050
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:06,079
buy all.

1051
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,599
Speaker 4: My own stuff.

1052
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:08,599
Speaker 24: You know, I don't have to do anything to him

1053
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:10,360
and take his stuff, and you know.

1054
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, like's just something like it's just something.

1055
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I ended up going back in there

1056
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,199
and just decided to buy the stuff anyway, and I

1057
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,119
just put it in the car.

1058
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: As Jared continued explaining his reasoning and his thought process,

1059
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,519
the grievances he described began to feel smaller. He characterized

1060
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,840
his father as abusive, harsh, controlling, and difficult to live with,

1061
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,840
But when pressed for specifics, the examples he offered painted

1062
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,280
a picture that was much less extreme.

1063
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 4: Like in all, honestly, I like I was.

1064
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,519
Speaker 2: I was tired of, you know, kind of being like

1065
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:48,559
woking up early in.

1066
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,639
Speaker 4: The mornings and you know, kind of being stressed out.

1067
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: And I made me honest, I thought things like, oh, like,

1068
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,239
you know, if I kill him, I'll just be able

1069
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,960
to like take the car and just like be able

1070
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,840
to sleep, and you know, my life will be better.

1071
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,639
Speaker 4: It'll be free, and I won't have to deal with

1072
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:03,840
this anymore.

1073
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,599
Speaker 2: And stupid shit like that, you know, you know, I

1074
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,159
you know, I tried everything I knew how to do,

1075
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,159
and this was the only thing I didn't try, so

1076
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,440
I thought it was my only option.

1077
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: I didn't realize what I was doing.

1078
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: Jared and his father were living out of a forward explorer.

1079
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,719
At night, Jared slept inside the vehicle and his father

1080
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,280
often slept outside, but Jay had to wake up early

1081
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,719
for work. When he did, he would wake Jared up

1082
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,039
as well, start the engine and drive to a painting job.

1083
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,280
Jared resented that he didn't want to be woken up.

1084
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,840
He wanted to sleep all day, and over time that

1085
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:47,559
resentment deepened into something very dark. Jared saw only one

1086
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:51,880
way out for some reason, so he decided to kill

1087
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,480
his father, and as part of that plan, he even

1088
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:57,840
went as far as to dig a shallow grave.

1089
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Actually, I did you know about one am, I went

1090
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,599
over to the beach and actually tried to dig a

1091
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:06,360
hole that I was.

1092
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: Going to put his body in. It was right out

1093
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:10,719
on the beach by some grass. There's like a huge hole.

1094
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 5: I go, okay, And.

1095
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,159
Speaker 6: Was it within view of people the whole Well, it.

1096
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,679
Speaker 2: Was you know, dark house sticks though I don't think

1097
00:53:18,679 --> 00:53:21,280
anyone really saw it, but like by morning, I'm sure

1098
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,000
they would have seen it.

1099
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1100
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: After digging a grave on the beach, Jared returned to

1101
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,199
the parking garage where his father was sleeping. By then,

1102
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,440
the decision to kill had already been made.

1103
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,199
Speaker 10: So after that, where you go once you give up

1104
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:37,039
on digging the hole?

1105
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: I think I just went straight to him.

1106
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: No.

1107
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,199
Speaker 2: I went to the car and I waited a little

1108
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:42,679
bit because my.

1109
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,199
Speaker 4: Arms were hurting hi from digging the hole.

1110
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: And then I just I just was like, you know what,

1111
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,480
you know, it's time, basically, and I went up and

1112
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:51,519
I just kind of did it?

1113
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 10: And when you walked up to him, when you first

1114
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,199
walked up to him, was it slow or fast?

1115
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: Or I think a kind of moved like not like

1116
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,800
slow slope, but kind of like kind of creeped up

1117
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,639
on my guess.

1118
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Jared approached his father barefoot, hoping not to wake him.

1119
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,760
In his hand was the dollar store knife he had

1120
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,719
purchased earlier. Then Jared struck.

1121
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 10: Do you remember where you hit him with a knife first,

1122
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:23,400
right in his neck?

1123
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: And he was sleeping when you when that first sat when.

1124
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,039
Speaker 10: You first said he was sleeping okay? And did he

1125
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,599
wake up immediately when that happened?

1126
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 6: Did he say anything to you?

1127
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 10: He told me to stop, okay, did he say anything else?

1128
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't remember, well, I don't

1129
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,480
think so.

1130
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 6: Was there a lot of blood?

1131
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 13: What happened up?

1132
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 17: Do you used to have him the first time?

1133
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: He jumped up and was screaming, so he stood up?

1134
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he jumped up really fast and like started

1135
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,320
trying to fight me off and he was telling me

1136
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,639
Jared stop, I you know, I said no?

1137
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,079
Speaker 10: And did you just stab him the one time? They

1138
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:04,000
get back up or did you hit him a.

1139
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 6: Couple of times.

1140
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 4: I hit him a couple of times.

1141
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 10: Do you know if you had to guess how many

1142
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,880
times would you think that you hit him?

1143
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,639
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what I would say several, So,

1144
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,599
I mean maybe like I couldn't even count at least

1145
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:15,440
four or five.

1146
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 10: Four or five times stabbed him and it was that

1147
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,639
when it was all in the neck area, or I

1148
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:20,800
think so, yeah, Okay.

1149
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: An autopsy later determined that Jay Norman had been stabbed

1150
00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:29,639
twenty seven times, and the wounds were not confined to

1151
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:33,199
his neck. They were spread across his body.

1152
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 6: So it got dropped.

1153
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: No, the knife broke, Oh it broke, yeah, and uh

1154
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,920
so the pieces just fell over.

1155
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,119
Speaker 10: When that first time when you stabbed him a couple

1156
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,760
of times, when did where did the other stabs come?

1157
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: If the knife broke, I actually stabbed him a couple

1158
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,679
of times with the broken knife.

1159
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 6: With the broken knife.

1160
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a little piece left, but I

1161
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,440
kept stabbing him.

1162
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:57,079
Speaker 6: Okay.

1163
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: During the attack, Jay tried to fight off his son.

1164
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:04,679
Defensive wounds on his body confirmed there had been a struggle,

1165
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:11,519
but in the end, Jared, the son, overpowered the father.

1166
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 6: And then what happens now that you're both standing.

1167
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:17,119
Speaker 4: For so many mechanics.

1168
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: I remember this part, but at some point we both

1169
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,119
ended up on the ground and I was on top

1170
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:23,079
of him choking.

1171
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,039
Speaker 6: Him, and then what happens and just kept.

1172
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,599
Speaker 2: Telling go to sleep, And so I don't remember everything

1173
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,760
I said. I just remember saying that he was very

1174
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,320
cruel to me.

1175
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 24: And you know, I think I remember I said I

1176
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:38,639
didn't want to do this.

1177
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,199
Speaker 4: To him, and that it was that I said.

1178
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 24: He was very cruel to me, and I probably said

1179
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,599
a couple other things, but I don't remember what that

1180
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,039
was really until passed away.

1181
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:54,559
Speaker 1: Jane Norman's final moments were violent and horrific. While bleeding

1182
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:58,079
out from more than two dozen stab wounds, the last

1183
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:02,559
thing he saw was his own son choking him to death.

1184
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Burn that image into the back of your retna. Imagine

1185
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:12,159
seeing your own son choking the life out of you.

1186
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 6: How did you know that he was dead?

1187
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:17,519
Speaker 4: I saw the life of his eyes.

1188
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 17: Okay, did you see him breathing at all?

1189
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,719
Speaker 2: It's not like he was breathing, but like his body

1190
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,599
was like reacting, like like it was like trying to

1191
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,440
have air or something. I kept I thought, I thought,

1192
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,760
maybe it's still alive. So I kept like forcing his

1193
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,239
windpipe down. And but then I realized, like when I

1194
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,280
took my hands off, it was just his body like

1195
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,119
doing something, that he was dead, and like I took

1196
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,159
my hands off and like a huge amount of hair

1197
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:45,159
like sucked into him.

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00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: I got off with him.

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00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,159
Speaker 1: After killing his father, Jared abandoned his plan to move

1200
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:56,159
the body to the beach. It was a pretty fucking

1201
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,000
dumb plan to begin with, because a lot of people

1202
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,360
like to go to the beach. It's a very populated area,

1203
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:06,000
so probably not a great place to bury a body.

1204
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:11,000
And again this homeless city, it was a homeless city.

1205
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:14,800
So he simply fled the scene, leaving Jay where he

1206
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,760
had fallen. Evidence and all the crime would not be

1207
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,519
discovered until the following morning, but that was soon enough.

1208
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: I tried to use the trash bag, but then I

1209
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,440
just like I saw across the apartment that there was

1210
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,079
a light on, and I didn't know if I was being

1211
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:33,679
washed or something.

1212
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: So I got really scared and I just said, oh,

1213
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,159
I can't be here or something like that. And then

1214
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:38,800
I got.

1215
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,519
Speaker 2: In in the in the car and just you know,

1216
00:58:41,559 --> 00:58:43,039
I took these keys and I got in the car

1217
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,800
and just took off immediately and then yeah, and then

1218
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,719
I just started heading north and then that's when the

1219
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,800
del Rey police stopped me and saw the blood all

1220
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,199
over me.

1221
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,679
Speaker 7: Hey, there amongst us was the reason why I pulled

1222
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:54,880
you over.

1223
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,719
Speaker 5: You know't have any lights on? Are you okay, bod?

1224
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had a movie.

1225
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 5: Are you sure you don't need paramatics or anything.

1226
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:06,679
Speaker 1: After pulling Jared over and finding him covered in blood,

1227
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,400
Delray Beach police allowed him to walk away. He wouldn't

1228
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,599
be arrested or questioned about his father's death until after

1229
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,599
Jay's body was discovered. During that initial interview, Jared lied

1230
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:24,360
repeatedly as detectives pressed him for the truth and tried

1231
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,039
to uncover a motive. But the following day, he returned

1232
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,559
to the police station, and this time he explained why

1233
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:32,119
he did it.

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00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:34,559
Speaker 6: You're upset because he wanted to wait here up in

1235
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:35,039
the morning.

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00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I just I didn't

1237
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,559
want to get up.

1238
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:41,679
Speaker 2: Like he was saying, like you know that, you know,

1239
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,280
he needs to go to work and stuff.

1240
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,079
Speaker 4: He was, oh right, he was.

1241
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: Talking about like okay, well if you don't want to

1242
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,679
get woken up, just sleep outside, you know, and you

1243
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,760
take the blankets I said, no, I.

1244
00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:52,199
Speaker 4: Can't do that.

1245
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:52,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1246
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: I said it's too cold, I can't do it.

1247
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: And then he said, you know, I don't know how

1248
00:59:58,079 --> 00:59:59,119
God at this point really.

1249
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: Was for some reason. He said, you know, what would

1250
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:01,559
you make your happy?

1251
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: Bodes left outside, and I just said yeah.

1252
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,079
Speaker 1: This confession eventually ended and detectives left the room. Jared

1253
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:13,079
remained seated at the table. The camera is still recording

1254
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,880
alone in the interrogation room. He began to speak out loud,

1255
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:24,840
not to the detectives but to his father after.

1256
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 11: Hearing all that, I'm sure you very furious. I don't

1257
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,199
have an excuse, so I saw then I don't know. Sure,

1258
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,559
you're very angry. He can be mad at me. I

1259
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:39,079
did what's wrong and stupid. I should never did that.

1260
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,480
I have to forget me. It was wrong, very wrong.

1261
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,920
I turned myself in, Okay.

1262
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,159
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to do what I can do. May

1263
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,679
come before you, though, I can make joy.

1264
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:13,119
Speaker 23: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1265
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 5: I was so sick.

1266
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,239
Speaker 1: A short time later, Jared was escorted out of the

1267
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:24,519
interrogation room and formally booked on murder charges.

1268
01:01:25,239 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 20: Twenty six year old Jared Neuman is now charged with

1269
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,480
first degree murder after the police say he turned himself

1270
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,760
into day and confessed to murdering his father in this

1271
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,039
parking garage Monday morning. Police also say surveillance video identified

1272
01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:40,199
Neyman as a suspect. Police say Noyman confessed to stabbing

1273
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,519
and strangling his father as he slept because he did

1274
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,360
not like the way his father treated him. Neuman remains

1275
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,280
in jail for premeditated first degree murder with no bond.

1276
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,559
He's scheduled to appear in court Thursday morning.

1277
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: After his arrest, Jared's legal battle began. Any remorse he

1278
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,519
had expressed during his confession faded away as he entered

1279
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:03,400
a plea not guilty, much like any sympathy you may

1280
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,199
have had for him should have faded away after learning

1281
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,280
that this manipulative sociopath murdered his own father, admitted to it,

1282
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,920
and rather than accept responsibility and take punishment, he pleads

1283
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,559
not guilty because why not waste a bunch of taxpayer money.

1284
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,119
Also at trial, Jared claimed he had killed his father

1285
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,920
in self defense. That claim unraveled during cross examination.

1286
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 5: Your statement on the polices so different than it is today,

1287
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:36,239
right a little bit?

1288
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 13: Well, now you're saying you bought a knife or self defense, right,

1289
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:43,639
so you can kill your father in self defense?

1290
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 5: What you bought the knife?

1291
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 6: I wanted to protect myself, yes, So.

1292
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,239
Speaker 4: You planned out this self defense where you were.

1293
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:56,039
Speaker 13: Purchasing a knife in anticipation of self if I needed to, Yeah,

1294
01:02:56,639 --> 01:02:59,239
and you bought trash bags and self dedaia I did.

1295
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 18: Well, no was thinking it, but if that happened, I

1296
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:04,559
would like I was like stupid, and I was thinking

1297
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:04,960
there was.

1298
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,199
Speaker 5: Like a way to like hide this body, but it

1299
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:08,599
wasn't right.

1300
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,159
Speaker 13: You're gonna hide a body in self defense too, that's part.

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01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 5: Of the play.

1302
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 18: Well, if I kill somebody's self defense, I don't want like,

1303
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,760
you know, you gotta hide this body somewhere, right.

1304
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like I did your.

1305
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 13: Bod gloves to defend yourself as well.

1306
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I didn't want to leave fingerprints.

1307
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 10: Right.

1308
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,519
Speaker 5: You don't want to get caught when you killed when

1309
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,360
you killed them in self defense, right, right? You donne

1310
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,480
a whole of the beach in self defense. Right?

1311
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 18: That was like stupid, but I guess yeah, I was

1312
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:38,159
like thinking, uh that I could have buried him, but

1313
01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:38,599
I didn't.

1314
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to do that.

1315
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: During the trial, prosecutors argued that Jared's claim of self

1316
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:50,559
defense was a lot because it was a story constructed

1317
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,960
after the fact to avoid responsibility. They told jurors the

1318
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,679
evidence showed something much more deliberate. Jared had grown resentful

1319
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:05,800
of his father, planned the killing meticulously, and then carried

1320
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,440
it out.

1321
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 13: Hours upon hours of conversations with police officers, telling them

1322
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,320
what happened in all these lives?

1323
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:13,599
Speaker 17: Right?

1324
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, and.

1325
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 13: The first time you came up with this story was today,

1326
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,719
five years after you murdered your father.

1327
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 4: Right, I just might have said it differently.

1328
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, when did you.

1329
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 9: Make up the story about what you just When did it.

1330
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 18: Come to you in your mind to make up the story.

1331
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,880
It's not a story I made up. I mean, I

1332
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,760
was just not telling the police everything.

1333
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 9: Feel like you're dead? No, right?

1334
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,159
Speaker 4: Hated you dead, maybe a little bit.

1335
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:50,079
Speaker 1: Prosecutors also emphasized a critical detail. When Jay Noyman was attacked,

1336
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,760
he was asleep. They argued that fact alone undermined any

1337
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,719
claim of self defense. You can't get attacked by someone

1338
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,920
who unconscious. Didn't we learn that from the door dash girl?

1339
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:06,599
Speaker 5: When you stabbed him with the knife, he wasn't awake.

1340
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 13: Right, yes, eyes were closed, yes, and you took off

1341
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,639
your shoes so that he wouldn't hear.

1342
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:18,639
Speaker 5: You coming right, yes, And do you remember telling the

1343
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:19,199
police that.

1344
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:22,039
Speaker 9: He told you stop? Yeah?

1345
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 4: I remember that, yeah, right, and you didn't stop.

1346
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 22: No.

1347
01:05:28,199 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 13: You stabbed them multiple times, yes, some of them to

1348
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,440
his back.

1349
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 5: Because I'm back. When you stabbed someone in.

1350
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: The back, that's not self defense, right, If.

1351
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:42,719
Speaker 18: You were trying to defend yourself and you had to

1352
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,840
like keep hitting them, maybe hit them in the back

1353
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,519
by accident.

1354
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 5: Defend yourself from a sleeping man?

1355
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,719
Speaker 18: Uh no, No, but I mean if it was like

1356
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,039
situation where somebody.

1357
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,239
Speaker 13: Was doing defended yourself from a person that's asleep on

1358
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:56,239
the ground.

1359
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:56,719
Speaker 5: No.

1360
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, the jury sided with prosecutters and returned to guilty verdict.

1361
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,760
Jared was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to

1362
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,840
life in prison for killing his father.

1363
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:11,119
Speaker 5: What happened to your dad that things kind of spiral?

1364
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:14,599
Speaker 9: Then you and him are living out of his truck together.

1365
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,320
Did he just have a bad turn of events? Business

1366
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:18,840
went bad?

1367
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 21: What was the You can ask him, But that's kind

1368
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,559
of They're going from having a business and a condo

1369
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:27,000
and that to you guys living out of the same truck.

1370
01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:27,599
Speaker 9: It's kind of.

1371
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 4: That's that's his problem.

1372
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 9: I'm saying it's a problem.

1373
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 21: I'm just curious as to did he mismanage his money,

1374
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:39,480
did someone take advantage of him drugs with alcohol, bad luck?

1375
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,519
Speaker 4: I'm not that involved.

1376
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,599
Speaker 1: It's unclear how or why j Noyman ultimately found himself

1377
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:50,199
living out of a Ford Explorer with his son. What

1378
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:53,559
we do know was that life inside that vehicle wasn't

1379
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:58,000
easy for either of them. Living in such close quarters

1380
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:05,639
is hard. The space is small, the privacy nonexistent. Every

1381
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,239
little frustration lingers a bit longer when there's nowhere to

1382
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,239
escape it. By all accounts, Jay was trying to make

1383
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,440
it work. Friends had offered him a place to stay

1384
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,280
away out, but he refused. He knew his son was

1385
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,119
struggling and he didn't want to leave him alone. At

1386
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:30,199
the same time, Jay understood that Jared could be violent

1387
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,360
and volatile. Moving his son into a friend's home simply

1388
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:42,360
wasn't an option, so Jay chose another path. He continued

1389
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,199
living out of his vehicle alongside his son. That kind

1390
01:07:46,239 --> 01:07:50,920
of loyalty is difficult to measure. It's the quiet, stubborn

1391
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,239
kind of love that doesn't disappear when things get messy,

1392
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:59,159
the kind that stays, even when staying is the hardest

1393
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:05,000
thing on earth. Jay chose to remain with his son. Tragically,

1394
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:10,559
his son chose something else. In the end. This wasn't

1395
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:15,159
a crime born of imminent danger or desperate survival. It

1396
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:21,920
was a calculated decision rooted in resentment, in small grievances

1397
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,600
that were allowed to grow unchecked, dealt with by an

1398
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:32,600
emotionally immature idiot. Jay Neuman stayed with his child when

1399
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,319
others might have walked away, and that choice cost him

1400
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,119
his life. Some people spend their entire life searching for

1401
01:08:43,319 --> 01:09:14,520
unconditional love. J Noyman died by giving it. Well, that

1402
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:20,520
does it for another tragedy. I don't know why you

1403
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,880
guys listen to this stuff, but I guess it's nothing new.

1404
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:29,960
I mean, the Greeks loved their tragedy, right, So not

1405
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:35,000
much has changed in thousands of years. I don't suspect

1406
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:39,199
much will change in thousands of years. So until next week,

1407
01:09:40,560 --> 01:10:38,600
stay safe, usual

1408
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:07,319
Speaker 5: Begining coming completely authentic at prop