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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Political Beatdown with Ben Macellis and Michael Cohen.

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On today's show, we will discuss the new bombshell court

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filing and Dominion's one point six billion dollar defamation lawsuit

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against Fox set to go to trial in April. The

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new filing has unsealed text messages and unsealed deposition transcripts

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and unsealed emails, and we will react to this because

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this is some blockbuster stuff here, and Donald Trump is

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reacting to the release of these messages in the dominion filing,

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and Trump is now attacking Rupert Murdoch for testifying accurately

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in the deposition about what the text messages say. Apparently

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Trump wanted Murdoch to lie under oat, something that Trump

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probably does all the time, and Trump's accused Murdoch of

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throwing the Fox anchors quote under the table. We will

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discuss that in some of Trump's other unhinged rants over

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the past forty eight hours. And there were more committee

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hearings taking place this week, and these are committee hearings

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that are scheduled by the MAGA Republicans because they think

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that leaning into their conspiracy theories and public forums where

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there's actual ability to have debate and not just facts

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fox soundbites is like a good look for them. But

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I'm just loving these committee hearings because you actually can

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see the contrast between the MAGA Republican conspiracy theories and

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taking things out of context and Democrats on the Committee's

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just telling it how it is. But we are going

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to start off by checking in with Michael Cohen. Always

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at the top of the show, we see how Cohen

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is doing. Michael Cohen, how are you?

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Speaker 2: You know? Tay is another crazy day, so to share

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with my political beating down brigade. The meeting that I

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will go to next, which is the District Attorney of

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New York, is not going to be Thursday. It was

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pushed back to Friday due to scheduling issues. Most probably

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the scheduling issue was really Lannie, who's coming in from DC,

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and maybe Thursday wasn't a good day for him, And

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obviously I need Lanni there for both support as well

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as your loyal support. Yes, my lawyer suffice it to say,

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this is not and I want people to understand that

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this is no longer sit down's investigatory work and so on,

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but rather this is preparation for what I suspect is

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going to be a grand jury preparation and possibly to

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discuss my appearance and my presentation before the grand jury.

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So it's extremely excited. You know. The other day on

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my mea Culpa podcast and soon to be released, I

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have Glenn Kirshner from Justice Matters as the guest, and

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we actually bet one dollar. I almost felt like it

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was trading places. We bet a dollar on who would

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be right. I believe that the District Attorney of New

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York will be the very first indictment to come against

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Trump and to hold him accountable for the various things

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that you know, he's alleged to have done. You know,

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I tried to couch the terms, you know, allegations, you know,

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potential simply because we don't want to find ourselves in

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trouble for anything. So obviously that's something that the DA himself,

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Alban Bragg, has to do. But I am a firm

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believer that Bregg now sees the truth and that his

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misimpression of me early on, based upon the things that

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Donald Trump has done and said about me all in

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the past that has been echoed by the Republicans, on

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and on and on as well as whether it be

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Fox News, an Newsmax and so on. I believe he's

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seeing the truth and the fact that all of these

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allegations about me and all of the misrepresentations about me

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are inaccurate, and that you know who's the real liar here?

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Is it me? Or is it Donald Trump? And look,

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I've acknowledged what I lied to. I acknowledged that I

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lied about the number of times I spoke, you know,

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to Donald about the failed real estate project in Moscow,

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the Trump Tower Moscow. I stated before Congress the number three. However,

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the real number was ten. Yeah, that's a that's a misstatement. Uh.

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Is it anything on part to the thirty five thousand

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plus lies that Donald has told or that the Republicans

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are telling, or like a George sai As or a

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Marjorie Taylor Green or a Lauren Bobert or any of

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these other animals. The answer is no, And yes, I

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acknowledge that the campaign finance violation. I acknowledge the one

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that deal would store me Daniels, not the one with

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Karen McDougall that I also pled guilty to. And obviously,

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if hopefully, hopefully, I'll a political beatdown Brigade already knows this.

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Hopefully that you've already read it in my book Revenge.

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If not, I please ask you to do it so

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that I don't have to repeat myself. But going back,

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I am appearing again before the District Attorney's office this week,

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of course, will keep you guys posted. You will see

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us again, of course on Thursday. I'll regularly schedule time

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here at three o'clock Eastern, twelve o'clock Pacific. So that's

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just one part. The second part that I need to

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also discuss is thank God for people like Congressman Jamie Raskin,

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Thank God for people like Congressman Steve Cohen of Tennessee.

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No relation, by the way, Steve Cohen, and it's just

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been reported in Ross story Steve Cohen Sault. You got

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it there. So Steve Cohen basically went head to head

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with Jim Jordan, who happens to be the chair of

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that committee, basically again talking about the weaponization of the

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Justice Department, and if this is to be bipartisan and

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not some sort of a kangaroo Mickey mouse type court,

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it is imperative that they look into not just the weaponization,

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as Jim Jordan would like and the other Republicans would

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like to show that there's a weaponization by the Biden

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administration against the former president and other Republicans. But what

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about the weaponization of the Justice Department against you, against

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people like myself by the former president. If you can't

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look back, how do you look forward? And today there

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was a nice exchange of words by Congressman Steve Cohen

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and by Jim Jordan, and I certainly recommend everybody if

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you go to my Twitter page you can find it there.

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I'll get a post it as well on my Instagram,

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so you could follow me there or on my TikTok.

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This has to be a precedent. We must ensure that

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no president today, tomorrow, or ever has the ability to

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weaponize the Justice Department to do the things that Donald

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Trump has done, which is to incarcerate, to literally have

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me incarcerated because they did not want me to publish

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the first book, which was called Disloyal. So you know,

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I'm all fired up on this shit. I can't handle

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it anymore. I would love to see bipartisan the fact

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that there aren't Republicans screaming like I am, Like Congressman

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Cohen like Congressman Raskin, like Congressman Eric Swolwell, like Congressman

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lew And Hakim Jeffries, and even Senator Dick Durbin, the

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fact that there are more people screaming from the rooftops

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that this is not acceptable behavior in America, this is

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not acceptable behavior by a president. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: That's what's so powerful about these committee hearings because everything

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the Maga Republicans do is projection. And when they go

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on Fox and we'll be talking about the new emails

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and the new deposition testimony and the new text messages

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that have come out, which is and a lot of

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messages from Rupert Murdoch as well, who knew and very

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clearly approved of the platforming of election disinformation to keep viewers.

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But when they do that whole projection routine on Fox

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or on their other right wing echo chamber, me they

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get away with it. And frankly a lot of times too,

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when they go on large media networks that both sides

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it cust is only a certain amount of information and

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questions you could ask in a format where there's three

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to five minutes of questioning. You know, the MAGA Republicans

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can go on those Sunday morning shows and basically filibuster

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it and get their talking points out and then basically

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not get grilled with any of the actual facts. But

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these committee hearings with very smart, fact based approach, the

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same type of approach we have here on the Midas

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Touch Network on political beatdown being utilized by Democrats is

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just so compelling, and there's so many examples of it.

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So I want to show some of the clips from

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the committee hearings taking place as we speak, and Michael,

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I want to get your reactions to it. So the

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first clip I want to show you mentioned Jamie Raskin,

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and Jamie Raskin reminds Lauren bober Does Boberts trying to,

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I guess, blame President Biden for COVID. You have Raskin

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reminding Bobert that, guess what, Donald Trump, when he was

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in office, was praising the Chinese president she for the

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way he handled things. It was Trump who was the

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one who was saying that China's doing a great job.

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I'm gonna want your reaction to this one, and let's

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just go through a few of these clips today, so

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salty play the clip.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 3: President Trump was in office when the COVID virus was

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released from a lab in China, from the Wuhan lab,

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and he tried to make that very clear that this

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came from China, and reporters regularly dismissed that.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the General Lady's passion. There are two facts

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that she should perhaps be alerted to. One is that

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Donald Trump, on more than twenty different occasions, defended the

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performance of the Chinese government and specifically President she in

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terms of his treatment of COVID nineteen, and said he

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was doing a wonderful job and a great job, and

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they were working closely and they were constantly in touch.

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So if there's a problem with the Chinese government unleashing

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a virus which has not been proven anywhere, but it

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certainly could be true, you would have to pin that

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on your favorite President Donald Trump, not on Joe Biden.

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The second thing is President Trump's own special advisor.

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Speaker 5: On COVID nineteen, Deborah Brooks.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you're aware, and you'm sure you've read her book,

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said that the lethal recklessness of Donald Trump's policies about

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COVID nineteen cost Americans hundreds of thousands of lives, So

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you don't have to believe anybody on the Democratic side

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of the aisle. That's Donald Trump's own special advisor on

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COVID nineteen. Thank you for yielding, and I heavily yell back.

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Speaker 1: Facts matter, Facts matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, thank god, Thank God for Jamie Right,

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and you know, I hope he's feeling better and speedy recovery,

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you know, from you know his situation. But thank God

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for him for literally calling out to stupid because Lauren

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Bobert is just that, she's just stupid. And what is this?

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This is merely projection. I would love for each and

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every one of our brigaders to think, first, let's stop

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for one second, and I would like for each and

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every one of you to think, name one specific time

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that Donald Trump acknowledged that he made a mistake, that

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he did something wrong. And the answer is you can't.

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I know for a fact, because again I was with

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him for more than a decade before he ever decided

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to join into this political reef. Donald Trump is incapable

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of acknowledging error. Do we not remember when that moron

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Mike Pence got up onto the stage. I think it

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was at Sea Pack, another fucking joke of an organization, right, seapac.

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He's standing there and he's saying that he has facts

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and information from the President that says that this is

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just like a flu and that everybody should go back

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to work. He's got this under control. It will be

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gone before the end of the week. Well, really, after

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a million people, a million Americans died. Think about that

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for a second. When you think about people sitting at

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the dinner table and missing somebody at that table, right,

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think about, you know, at family functions when an aunt

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and uncle, a mother, father, sister, brother, cousin, you know,

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friend is not going to be there. Why Because Donald

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Trump does not acknowledge that science exists. He does not

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acknowledge that this coronavirus was as serious, and he tried

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to whitewash it. And this is not my words, insulted

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if you can find it. Do you remember when Donald

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Trump turned around and said to the American people that

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he did not want Americans to get nervous, he didn't

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want to scare them, and so he downplayed the coronavirus.

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The fact that he did something like that to me

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should have been an automatic impeachment. This is the president

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of the United States, a man who was elected right

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whether you voted for him or not. He was elected

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president to serve the American people, and he's afraid to

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tell you the truth because he doesn't want it to

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cause some sort of pandemonium. That's not even the truth either.

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The bottom line is that this fucking moron refused to

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listen to people like doctor Anthony Fauci. He refused to

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listen to anybody other than the people that were feeding

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him the same stupidity and the same false misinformation, disinformation

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or malin form me that he wanted to speak so

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that he could then what hope that maybe it disappears

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on its own, then he could be you know, the winner.

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I mean, it's like Munchausen by proxy, that's really what

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it is. He expected this thing would go away like

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a fluid go I mean, do we not remember this

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idiot said, Hey, let's maybe inject chlorine or a life

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sool into people's lungs. Hey, And then he said remember

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to doctor Berks, he goes, you know what about using

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like light therapy? I mean, I know that you've studied

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that really significantly, very strongly, because you know he's got

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the best words. I know you did that very strongly.

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And people say that it's a possibility. I mean, what

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fucking episode of Star Trek does this idiot think he's

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living in. Enough is enough? And at the end of

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the day, he lied to the American people all right

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about what he should have known had he he listened

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to the experts. But then again, he'll tell you he

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has an uncle who works at MIT. Not even know

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if that's true, because I've actually asked Don and Eric

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whether they have an uncle that works and he didn't

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know who he was talking about. So that he is

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an uncle that works at MIT, which of course makes

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him smarter than everybody else. He knows more about the

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military than the generals. Have you not noticed that the

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man claims to know more about everything than everybody else,

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especially the experts. He knows more about religion than the clergy,

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he knows more about military than the generals, he knows

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more about science than the scientists. The guy's a fucking idiot.

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And the fact that we are even contemplating the fact

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that there's even an American out there that's contemplating Donald

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Trump running again in twenty twenty four, and providing their

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support for him, whether it has a vote or monetarily,

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really should scare a shit out of each and every

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one of us.

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Speaker 1: Look, this isn't WWE wrestling, This isn't some bizarro movie.

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You know, this is life or death. And so when

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we think about the video clip of Lauren Bobert doing

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her kind of fascist stick and then you have Jamie

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Raskin again just stating the facts in a very just

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objective way, here are what the facts are. Americans have

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to think, who do I want to make the decisions

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for my life? Who do I want to make the

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decisions for my family's life, for my community's life, for

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our country, for our neighborhoods. Do you want Lauren Bobert

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doing it? Or do you want Jamie Raskin? And look,

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I think it is important that Jamie Raskin's approach, though,

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also comes from the fact that he's a renowned constitutional scholar.

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I think that's an important fact about his background versus

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Lauren Bobert. You know, struggled, you know, to even be

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able to run a you know, a restaurant that frequently

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was cited for causing lots of people to get sick,

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very very very frequently.

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Speaker 2: But Ben, one thing that I just want to jump

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in here with you and share with you is as

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the president of the United States, he is responsible for

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not just those that voted for him or the Republicans

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that are MAGA. He's responsible for all of us. And

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when the President of the United States speaking on behalf

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of all of the people that work underneath him, the

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entire cabinet, the entire administration, that it's it's nothing more

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than a flu. It's just a it's a virus. It'll

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go away in a few days. You could, you know,

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go on and live your life. You know what people did, Ben,

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They went ahead and they lived their life. They went

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out and and you know what they also did. They

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ended up contracting the coronavirus and they died. All right,

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that's the truth. And I can't tell you the number

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of people, including people in my family, who died as

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a result of the coronavirus. All right. So when Donald

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Trump turns around and he tells you something, you can't

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believe it. And the fact again that the guy is

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potentially going to be the Republican nominee, how do we

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get the Republicans to wake the fuck up and understand.

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This is a man who will lie to you, right

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to your face. He will lie to the people who

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are supporting him, even if it will cost you your life.

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And why because he thinks it will benefit him, that

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it would make him look like a strong leader. If

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he tells you that is nothing there, move on, go

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on with your life, go back to work. Nothing to

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see here, folks, And then you end up dying, and

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not one person, not a thousand, not like sixty five

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thousand people who allegedly die each and every year of

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the flu. We're talking about a specific type of flu.

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We're talking about a specific virus, the coronavirus that people

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like doctor Anthony Fauci and epidemiologists extraordinary warned him and

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warned the administration and warned the American people not to

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take this lightly. He then told him, you're wrong, I'm right.

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Americans listened to him, and a million people died here

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in America. A million Americans died. All right, that's the

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guy that you want as the president. This is really

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scary stuff, then.

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Speaker 1: Which is why they have to spread conspiracy. It's why

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they're outrage. Echo Chamber in the outrage they manufacture they

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are in is so important because if they could keep

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you very scared about pronouns and get your very scared

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about Disney movies or very scared about mister potato Head

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or artificial intelligence or whatever the new boogeyman du jour is,

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you're not focused on the fact that the Maga Republicans

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or picking your pockets. They're literally stealing your money and

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giving it to their billionaire friends, and you're not focused

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on the things that are actually really things to try

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to address things that are really killing you because of

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their policies and as we say, it's all projection when

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it comes to Maga Republicans, and these committee hearings really

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prove that point. Here's another PLI.

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Speaker 2: And before we go to the clip, can we not

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just sort of use as an example Jim Jones from

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the Jonestown massacre. He didn't tell the people, his followers,

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his cult followers, that he was going to poison them

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with the kool aid, with the poison and kool aid,

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and how many tens of thousands of people ended up dying.

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Is there any difference between what Jim Jones did and

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what Donald Trump did? Donald Trump either he refused to

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listen to what the experts were saying, or he purposefully

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ignored it. Either way, it's silence, and it's the same

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type of silence and misdirection and lies that Jim Jones

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told his followers on that faithful day. So you know, again,

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you know, it's just something that came to mind, because

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we do have to sometimes, you know, make these comparisons,

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as ugly as they are, right, we do have to

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make these comparisons, especially in light of the fact a

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million people, a million Americans died unnecessarily.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you gave Jim Jones the nuclear codes, and

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you gave Jim Jones full access over the federal government,

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you'd probably have a slightly less worse result than what

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Donald Trump brought to the United States, if we're being

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completely honest. And I saw a comment to this point,

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and I'll just make this point before going back to

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Jamie Raskin. Look, do I agree with President Biden and

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the Democrats on every single issue. No, I probably disagree

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on a lot of issues. I just know that there

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are adults in the room right now who are trying

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to take these matters seriously and try to come up

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with the right solution, whether it's on jobs, healthcare, education,

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making sure that women can control their own bodies, making

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sure that LGBTQ plus people can marry who they love,

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and focusing on our military evets. It's a serious approach

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versus a very unseerious approach. And these are very serious times,

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and a very serious person in these very serious times

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is Jamie Raskin, and he points out that Comber who

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is MAGA Republican, Comer who's like the head now of

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the Oversight Committee. You know, all these MAGA Republicans are

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talking about weaponization and Twitter was weaponized by the Democrats.

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And it's like, wait a minute, who was the president

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of the United States during the time period that you

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are talking about weaponization? Like y'all realize that in October

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of twenty twenty, Donald Trump was the president, that Christopher

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Ray was appointed by Donald Trump, that Bill Barr works

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for Donald Trump and covered up all of Donald Trump's stuff.

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You're calling these people rhinos or Democrats now, they couldn't

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be further from Democrats. And one of the things that

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Jamie Raskin points out here in addition to that is, look, Comer,

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you and the MAGA Republicans stated over the weekend that

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you are calling up the head of AT and T

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who has an not put Newsmax as not renewed to

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their contract with Newsmax, not because of any political view. Heck,

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AT and T is one of the top donors to

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the repub to the Republican parties. There are less people

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who watch Newsmax than who watch the Midas Touch network.

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In the first five minutes of our video, like let's

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be clear, like the Newsmax ratings are so far less

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than the Midas Touch ratings. Like we get five, ten,

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twenty fifty, sometimes one hundred times the views of Newsmax.

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And you don't see us saying you need to make

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sure we get on every cable network or else. Yet

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you have the maga Republican members of Congress who are

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threatening AT and T that you need to platform Newsmax.

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This right here is actual weaponization. This is collusion, This

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is using the government, and it's out in the open.

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Jamie Raskin does an incredible job pointing this out here.

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Speaker 4: Play this clip and Facebook, and if we're going to

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confront this problem of people using their public offices in

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state power to try to intimidate. Then let's do it

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in a comprehensive way. Let's take an example, mister Chairman,

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that you'll recognize. Immediately over the weekend, you appeared on

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Newsmas and you boasted that you had told AT and T,

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a private company, that they needed to restore Newsmas to

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carrying DirecTV or face the consequences. To quote you verbatim quote,

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I'm very upset that DirectTV doesn't have Newsmax on there.

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I've been in constant communication with the leadership of AT

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and T and DirecTV. I've strongly encouraged them to meet

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with your CEO, mister Ruddy, to get this worked out

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or else or else. Now, I have no opinion about

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whether or not AT and T should carry Newsmacs. Apparently

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it was purely a business decision, according to the Wall

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Street Journal, And I'll ask unanimous consent to introduce this

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editorial by the Wall Street Journal called rights wrong attack

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on Direct TV over Newsmas. A commercial dispute isn't about

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censoring conservatives without objection, so we can submit that there

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was also a letter written by forty two of our colleagues,

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including the Chairman, to directly to AT and D demanding

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that they carry Newsmax now, and the premise of it, it

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was there some kind of left wing conspiracy or so on.

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In the Wall Street Journal completely debunked that saying political

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coercion of business is as distasteful from the right as

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it is from the left. But if threatening official course

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of pressure like this follow our orders or else applied

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against it, not just private social media entities, which is

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what they're proposing this bill, but against any media entity,

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it would transform politics in America in the meaning of

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the First Amendment. But if we're going to do it,

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let's do it. And the First Amendment says, if this

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is going to apply to the Internet, if it's going

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to protect Twitter arguably, which is the conceit where pretense

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of this bill, it should also protect AT and T

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against getting coerced into making a deal it doesn't want

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to make and spending millions of dollars it doesn't want

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to spend with Newsmax.

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Speaker 1: I think it's such a good point right there. I mean,

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what is more coercive than the chairman, a Republican chairman

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of the Oversight Committee, threatening AT and t's executives to

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carry Newsmax when it's not a profitable network. They're forcing

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a company to pay millions of dollars. You know, it's

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a carriage feed dispute where Newsmax claims that they are

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entitled to money that is inconsistent with their very low viewership,

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and AT and T is like, well, if you drop

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your carriage fee, we will still carry you on the network.

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We're just not going to pay you tens of millions

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or hundreds of millions of dollars because it's just you're

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not getting the views.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, there's a bigger problem that goes on here. Now,

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all of a sudden you have Newsmax, which of course

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is it's part of the Donald Trump campaign arm. So

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Chris Ruddy, the president's CEO, is somehow exerting pressure over

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the likes of a Jim Jordan or some of these

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maga Republicans in order to do his bidding and to

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go up against it to David and Goliath scenario. But

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let me then give you a better example. Something that

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you should be entitled to, something that I should be

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entitled to, and something I'm desperately trying to get, which

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would show the weaponization of the Justice Department, which you

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know it goes right back to my whole story on

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an unconstitutional Remand so for example, I have an a

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turning by the name of Mark Zaid. The Mark Zaid

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has brought Foyer requests against the government in order to

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get documents, and those documents will show beyond a reasonable

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doubt to anybody, including maggots, that what the government did

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was unconstitutional and illegal. But of course they don't want

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to do it. The court has told the Foyer office.

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They have told government that you need to start processing

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what was originally zero documents that related to the Foyer

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request to over four hundred and eighty thousand documents that

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relate to that Foyer request. So now they're required to

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provide five hundred documents a month that was supposed to

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start going back to August of twenty twenty two. And

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I tell this story not because it's my story, but

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simply because we, as the American people, we are entitled

477
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to this information. It's unless it's top secret then, which

478
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,799
of course you see, it goes into everybody's houses, you know,

479
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:08,720
from Donald all the way down. But here's what we

480
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:14,279
just got after seven additional months and another court directive

481
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for them to start to provide the documentation we received,

482
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literally on the twenty third of the month, we received

483
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from the FBI a document stating that as of today,

484
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five hundred and four pages were reviewed and zero pages

485
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,559
are being released. Could you imagine we're talking about my case,

486
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:40,000
which was pleading guilty to a one page information, five

487
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hundred four pages reviewed, zero being released, four hundred and

488
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:49,880
ninety seven pages are being withheld for referral or additional

489
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consult while seven pages are being withheld as being duplicative.

490
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I mean, could you imagine the frustration that I have

491
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,079
Mark Z Brian Caram, you know, a journalist who helped

492
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me with my book Revenge. Could you imagine the frustration

493
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that Americans have in order to get something that we

494
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:16,880
are entitled to. Instead, you have now these Moga Republicans.

495
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You have the likes of Jim Jordan and others Lauren

496
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:24,519
Blobert asking for things that they're not even permitted to

497
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,279
ask for that they're doing things that they're not even

498
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,680
legally entitled to do, and they're acting in a way

499
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,839
which goes against the Constitution of the United States. So,

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once again to the brigaders, this bullshit has to stop,

501
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which is why I continuously say we need to build

502
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this brigade so big that when it comes to a Newsmax, right,

503
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,000
when it comes to Oan, when it comes to Trump's

504
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:56,440
fake social media platform, that we have the ability us,

505
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,400
the political beatdown Brigade, have the ability to put an

506
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end to it. And the fact that somebody like Lauren

507
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:09,319
Bobert or Jim Jordan that they should be exerting influence

508
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on AT and T in order to force a private

509
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business transaction. I didn't know that we have the ability

510
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to get our members of Congress to do our bidding

511
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for us. I mean, I know I haven't had that,

512
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and I'm pretty sure none of you had either. But

513
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then again, you're not up thes of Donald J. Trump,

514
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,880
and you're not his you're not his political campaign on

515
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,680
of misinformation, disinformation and malinformation. Maybe if we were, then

516
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,480
maybe we would be entitled to the things that I'm

517
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asking for or the things that they're asking for. What's

518
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happening to this country? It's really talking that.

519
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Speaker 1: As he asked that question, you know who apparently is

520
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,599
entitled to it? Cohen the insurrectionists who Republicans call political prisoners.

521
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In addition to turning over the surveillance footage, from the

522
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Capital Building on January sixth, to Tucker Carlson and Tucker

523
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,760
Carlson's producers, we are now also learning that the Republican

524
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,119
leadership in the House of Representatives are moving to let

525
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the January sixth insurrectionists who are defendants have access to

526
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the Capital security footage as well. The MAGA Republicans in

527
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,840
the House of Representatives are fighting really hard against the

528
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,639
objections of the Department of Justice to make sure that

529
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these insurrectionists get information that could indeed lead to the

530
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,320
insurrectionist learning about things like the movements of members of

531
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,559
the Senate and the House of Representatives and security on

532
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,559
January sixth, then secret rooms and safe rooms and things

533
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,239
like that. And look, the MAGA Republicans say, oh, don't worry,

534
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,599
that's not the stuff we're going to share with them.

535
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,679
But guess what there actually is something called courts, right,

536
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,159
and in these cases, the criminal defendants in federal court

537
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:06,159
are entitled to discovery that is relevant to their case.

538
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000
And guess who makes the decisions of what is the

539
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,440
relevant information. It's not supposed to be people like Kevin McCarthy,

540
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,840
supposed to be Article three federal judges who make that decision,

541
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and so discovery requests are made to turn over video footage,

542
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,039
which all of the January sixth insurrectionists and their lawyers

543
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:30,079
make those requests, and as it relates to them, they

544
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:33,760
can get that information, but they don't need and usually

545
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,840
aren't allowed to get information that is part of criminal

546
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,840
investigations by the Department of Justice that don't relate to them.

547
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:46,599
But this is what I mean, Like to me, is

548
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
this show a political show? Well, it's called political beatdown,

549
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,239
But in the sense what we're trying to beat down

550
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,880
is the fact that our politics have been infected by

551
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,239
fascism masquerading as a political party when we should all

552
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,760
as Americans say, wait a minute, we're giving the capital

553
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,239
surveillance footage over to the terrorists, and that's what a

554
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960
group of people are fighting for. That's a very bad thing,

555
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:16,480
you know, we.

556
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Speaker 2: Should be looking at. Yeah, but let's break this whole

557
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,760
thing down here, right, forty thousand hours we're given to

558
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:31,239
fucker Carlson and Fox News exclusively. Now, you and I

559
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:38,519
may not agree on everything, I believe wholeheartedly in transparency,

560
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
and I hear a lot of the Democrats in this

561
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:48,239
specific case saying, well, those tapes show the positioning of cameras,

562
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,159
and you can see angles and so on. First of all,

563
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,559
those cameras need to move. They need to be rotating

564
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so that there is not a single inch of the

565
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People's House that is not covered by video. So anyone

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00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:06,119
that goes into that capital needs to understand every single

567
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,400
movement except inside of the lavatories are being recorded, not

568
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:14,800
just for your protection, but for the protection of members

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00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,599
of Congress, for the protection of the People's House, and

570
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so on. I have no issue with the fact that

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it was given away. What I have an issue is

572
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:29,760
why Kevin McCarthy had the sole ability to give it

573
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to one group, meaning Fox News, who are election deniers,

574
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:41,920
who are insurrectionist deniers, propagandists, that they give it to

575
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,639
this fucker Carlson, who we already have information. We have

576
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,400
text messages on him with Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham

577
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,079
sending back and forth messages that could you believe how

578
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,400
stupid this is? And they go and they then continue

579
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:04,960
to promote this again lies the misinformation, disinformation, malinformation to

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the American people. And let me then jump in once

581
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again on something that I routinely say, and yet their

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00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,639
programs are still top rated, that there are still god

583
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,320
knows how many millions of people that are watching their shows.

584
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,599
How could you possibly watch somebody who called you stupid,

585
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,679
who called you nuts, who lie to your face, as

586
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,199
a journalist, as a reporter, as the host of a

587
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,800
show that's supposed to be promoting the news. I believe

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that if it was given to Fox, it should be

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:49,039
made available to everyone, ABC, NBC, EMAS, NBCCNN, CBS, everybody, PBS.

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,960
It should be made available to all Americans. No one group,

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especially not Fox News, especially not fucker Carlson should have

592
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the right to becaussess all of that information.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know, I think I've said this before.

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You know, fascism is a form of an abusive relationship,

595
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and where you have someone like Donald Trump so abuse

596
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,760
his base, but then feed them lies and feed them peanuts.

597
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,599
Life is very complicated. We live in very complicated times,

598
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and you could try to unpack the complicated nature and

599
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,119
try to find solutions, which is what the pro democracy

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00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,519
community and Democrats are offering. Okay, let's focus on bringing

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manufacturing jobs. Let's actually build infrastructure here, Let's increase wages.

602
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Let's focus on strengthening unions, Let's focus on lowering prescription

603
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:51,760
drug prices, let's make healthcare accessible to all. But those

604
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,960
things also to implement are hard and messy and take

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a lot of thought and process. Fascism some times works

606
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,079
because it's easy just to say it's the China virus.

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That's it, and just repeat it over and over again.

608
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And it takes complicated topics and makes it in a

609
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way that people can just say, you know, okay, got it,

610
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,719
that's it. That's a good problem, not their situations. But

611
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that's why the messaging is so important.

612
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Speaker 2: Sure, but the problem here is that the way that

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Trump uses information, the way that he relays the information

614
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to the American people, it's comical. I mean, think of

615
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,199
that fat orange face with the with the candy sweep,

616
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you know, flip flap flop, as I like to have

617
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,840
called it in my first book. Think about him sitting

618
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there and going, it's the China virus, all right, the

619
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China virus, China, China, and everybody thinks it's funny. By

620
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:56,079
the way, the president is not supposed to be a comedian.

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Funny as shit is the fact that the Ukrainian president

622
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,519
log Mia Zelenski is actually a comedian who's acting like

623
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a president. Here in America, we had a president who

624
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,159
thought he was gonna act like a fucking comedian, but

625
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,159
he's just not funny. There's nothing funny about a virus

626
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:18,320
that can wipe out the you know, a million people

627
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
like that, And to sit there and to tell people,

628
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,599
look again, I could go on and on this. You know,

629
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this is so ridiculous on so many levels. And allowing

630
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our members of Congress to act like the mob, which

631
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is what they're doing when you have somebody as a

632
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:43,400
member of Congress using political sway to threaten a private entity,

633
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,360
even though att is a publicly traded company, right, did

634
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,800
threaten that other company? That either you do something that

635
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:59,760
our fearless leader, the self proclaimed feurer, monarch, dictator, supreme leader,

636
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,719
that what he wants. That's a real problem. That to

637
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,840
me is if you go back and you start watching

638
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,000
The Godfather, that's exactly the same mentality that exists in

639
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:15,039
that movie that's existing right now in our Congress.

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Speaker 1: And this is gross, And you know it's important because

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00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,480
large media networks did not take that threat seriously. So

642
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:29,320
and they still don't take that seriously. They still want

643
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,280
to promote the next fascist in DeSantis, and they lean

644
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,800
into that there are so many great democratic governors. I mean,

645
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,679
look at the great work that Gretchen Whitmer's doing in Michigan.

646
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,519
Do you ever even hear the national media talk about

647
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,159
Governor Whitmer? But how many times do they talk about

648
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,679
DeSantis each and every day when he is espousing these

649
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,280
very fascist policies. But we need to bring that contrast

650
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here as Political beat Down. The other shows on the

651
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,679
Midas Touch network, as Maya Kulpa and others now have

652
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,239
the same audience, in fact larger audiences on many shows

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than large media networks. Now, speaking about the contrast, I

654
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also want to show you from the committee hearings earlier

655
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in the day a clip from Eric Swalwell who points

656
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,559
out that, you know, when the MAGA Republicans wanted to

657
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,280
do this kind of performative pledge of allegiance before they

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hold these committee hearings, You're already do the pledge earlier.

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So they want to do the pledge each and every time.

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I guess they thought that Democrats were not going to

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00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,039
vote in favor of the pledge of allegiance because Maga

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Republicans focus on just those performative issues. Well, the first person,

663
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it turns out that Gates brought to do the Pledge

664
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of allegiance was actually a murderer. He found a murderer,

665
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brought the murderer into the Capitol building, who he claims

666
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he met at a gun shop, and that is who

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led our pledge of allegiance in the Capitol building. Watch

668
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this clip from Eric Swalwell exposing it all.

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Speaker 6: One of the very first committee is the very first

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committee hearing of this Congress. Mister Gates, after we'd all

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agreed on what the committee's plan was gonna be, it

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was gonna be voice voted. Everyone agreed, mister Gates wanted

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to offer an amendment to say the Pledge of allegiance.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 6: Every single person on our side supported that. Now I

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don't think he really genuinely cares about saying the Pledge

677
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,800
of Allegiance, but he wanted to do it again to

678
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,559
own the Libs and to see if we would vote

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against it.

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Speaker 5: We didn't.

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Speaker 6: But who did he bring in here to say the

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Pledge of allegiance? Who did he parade in here in

683
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a uniform? Somebody that he met at a gun club?

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He said, locally. Okay, mister Sicillini had the crazy idea

685
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that maybe we should vet the people who come in here,

686
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make sure they're not insurrectionists. Mister McClintock, I am not

687
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kidding you. Mister McClintock said, well, it's not like we're

688
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gonna invite somebody who committed murder. No, he literally said that,

689
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it's not like we're gonna invite somebody who committed murder. Okay, well,

690
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who did mister Gate? He brought Corey Beakman. Corey Beakman

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00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,559
in twenty nineteen was in a standoff with the Michigan

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police after he was arrested and charged with murder, assault

693
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to an intent to commit murder, and two counts of

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felony firearm possession. The family of the victims said, mister

695
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Gates doing that it was like getting a dagger stuck

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in our heart again. We were infuriated when we first

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saw it. I was disgusted with the whole thing. That's

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why there's a trust deficit here. You'd pull off a

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public stunt to try and owen the Libs, and what

700
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you did was you brought in a guy who allegedly

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shot two people and killed one of them. That's where

702
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,159
the trust deficit is. So you can play your games,

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00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,679
conduct your stunts. We're here to get shited done.

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Speaker 1: You're here to play your games, conduct your stunts. We're

705
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here to get shit done. Congressman Ericswell, and here's one

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other clip I want to show. This is Gates questioning

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a witness who works I think in the State Department,

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and what Gates is citing has his evidence is actually

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just Chinese propaganda. Like he's literally reading the Chinese propaganda.

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The Global Times is a Daly tabloid newspaper under the

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auspices of the Chinese Communist Party flagship newspaper, The People's Daily,

712
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commenting on international issues from a Chinese ultra nationalistic perspective.

713
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This is the source that Gates is reading in the

714
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MAGA Republicans reading here play this clip.

715
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Speaker 7: Is the azof Battalion getting access to US.

716
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Speaker 5: Weapons, Not that I'm aware of, but.

717
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Speaker 7: If you have information, I entered to the record the

718
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Global Times investigative report that indicate that talks about training.

719
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It's from the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensics Research Lab, citing

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Diaz of Battalion was even getting stuff as far back

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as twenty.

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Speaker 5: Eighteen, without objection, show ordered.

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Speaker 7: Any reason to disagree with that assessment.

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Speaker 5: Doctor, is this the I'm sorry? Is this the Global

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Times from China?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: This is.

728
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Speaker 5: Well that's what you read.

729
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 7: Yeah it might be, Yeah, woulout the reason.

730
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Speaker 5: As a general matter, I don't take Beijing's no.

731
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Speaker 7: No, yeah, just tell me if if the allegation is

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true or false.

733
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Speaker 5: I mean I don't have any evidence one way or

734
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the other. As a general matter, I don't take Beijing's

735
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propaganda at face value.

736
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Speaker 7: Fair enough, I would agree with that assessment. April twenty

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twenty two, I've got and that's crazy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You can't make you can't make this stuff up, you know.

739
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I actually, after Matt Gates somehow successfully avoided prosecution despite

740
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the fact that his buddy Joel Greenberg is doing time,

741
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you know, for a crime that they both committed, that

742
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there is documentation, whether it's the transfer of money through

743
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venmo to emails and text messages. I really thought that

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Matt Gates was going to do something better. He wanted

745
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to be better, right, And I don't know why I

746
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had that hope. I was hopeful, not optimistic, but I

747
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was hopeful the same way that I was hopeful and

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I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to

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Jim Jordan that this entire committee, this weaponization come the

750
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Subcommittee on Weaponization by the Department of Justice, was not

751
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going to be a fucking joke kangaroo court that you know,

752
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:48,000
it's basically Hunter Biden's laptop. Hunter Biden's laptop. You know. Oh,

753
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we're talking about right now sending military aid to Ukraine

754
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in order to fend off the Russian attack, which I'm

755
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sure everybody will acknowledge. We would rather the war take

756
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place on someone else's soil than on ours instead. Fuck that,

757
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,559
nobody cares about that. If you're a maga Republican, all

758
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they care about is Hunter Biden's laptop and Barisma. And

759
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,719
so I mean this. We are we are so divided

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as a country. And it's not just divided between Republicans

761
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and Democrats. We are divided now between the insane and

762
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the sane, between the you know, the patriots and the anarchists,

763
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between the fascists and the demo and the democracy. You know,

764
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this is insane what we're even watching the fact that

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Matt Gates, who is not a stupid guy, I want

766
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to be clear, he's not stupid. The fact that he

767
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would quote or his people would give him a document

768
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by the Chinese government to quote, and a congressional hearing

769
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when he is deposing somebody, you know, where's the sanctions,

770
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where's the reprimands? Where's the removal from the committee? If

771
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you're going to waste not just the committee's time, but

772
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the American people's time and the witnesses time. And there's

773
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no repercussions, But what do you expect? Yeah, why don't

774
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we just quote, you know, let's quote the guy who

775
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was the artist for what was the uh, stupid Dilbert Right,

776
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:31,920
that's no longer you know, able to act as a

777
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comic artist or whatever. For me, you know, for saying

778
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stupid racist shit, he is now suffering repercussions. Point being,

779
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:46,480
there are no repercussions for anyone who's successful in winning

780
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an election. That then gives you immunity from being an asshole.

781
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Speaker 1: Cohen, though that I think that you said. I don't

782
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know why I hoped that they would take it seriously,

783
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but I held out a slim hope. And here's why

784
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I think you did. Because you still care about our country,

785
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and because you care about our country. You do want

786
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people who possess positions of power to act like adults,

787
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and maybe you hope that once they get into those

788
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positions that they will understand the importance of their role

789
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and that they will change. But I think, as President

790
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:29,480
Barack Obama once said, when people get these positions of power,

791
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whether it's becoming the president of the United States or

792
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:36,440
one of these other high level positions, it tends to

793
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basically accentuate the characteristics that you've had. So if you

794
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are a diligent person who cared about humanity, it should

795
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,000
bring out those qualities more. If you are a horrible person,

796
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once you get that taste of that power, it actually

797
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accentuates that more. And when you gave those dic economies

798
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that exist of the divisions, I think it was important

799
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that you pointed out that these divisions are really no longer.

800
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Here's Democrats and here's Republicans, and we don't even really

801
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,159
talk about it that way. On the Midas Touch Network,

802
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,039
we talk about pro democracy and then we talk about

803
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:25,119
the fascism that has infected our politics. Because within pro democracy,

804
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I want to be very welcoming of people who truly

805
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:32,000
identify as conservatives and not just use that name, but

806
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:35,880
do things that are actually the opposite of conservative. I

807
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,000
want to welcome former Republicans. I want to welcome independents.

808
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,000
I want to welcome people who are not affiliated with

809
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,840
any political party or who don't like politics. I want

810
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,880
to welcome progressives. I want to welcome liberals. I want

811
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,960
to welcome everybody who's ready to have a serious conversation

812
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,679
about advancing our national discourse, about improving our country, and

813
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,920
who take these issues very, very very seriously. And I'll

814
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,639
give you the juxtaposition again here that you laid out

815
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between normalcy of President Biden tweeting out and posting things

816
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about jobs and infrastructure and protecting social security and making

817
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sure seniors are protected, and on and on and on.

818
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:21,800
You compare it with what Trump with Trump was saying

819
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,519
over the past forty eight hours, you know, calling Jack

820
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Smith a mad dog psycho. I think we have the

821
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psycho prosecutor assigned to me for the document hopes Jack Smith,

822
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,519
question Mark is not only together with his wife, family

823
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,800
and friends, a massive Trump payter, blah blah blah blah blah.

824
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There's the other one where he just calls him mad

825
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,960
dog psycho over the weekend, you know, and by the way,

826
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you know why he does the question mark after Jack

827
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,800
Smith and what he's the dog whistle there. He's saying

828
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,519
that Jack Smith is not Jack Smith's real name. That's

829
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part of the conspiracy theory, and implying in his own way,

830
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:02,840
this is the signal that you know, Jack Smith, like

831
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,000
the Jewish globalist whose name really isn't Smith. That's the

832
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:08,480
wink and the nod of why he does the question

833
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:11,159
mark there, and he'll he'll deny that, but that's very

834
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:15,559
specifically the reason why he does that. And then you

835
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:18,559
also have Donald Trump attacking Rupert Murdoch and we've got

836
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:22,280
those posts as well, where he says that Rupert Murdoch

837
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,239
is throwing his anchors under the table, which also happens

838
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,159
to be killing his case and infuriating his viewers who

839
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:33,280
will again be leaving him in droves they already are.

840
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,119
There's massive evidence blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

841
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,719
Where then he spreads election disinformation and he's basing that

842
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,800
on some of this new information that dropped in the

843
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,119
Fox legal filings.

844
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: Or did you notice what Donald did you notice and

845
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:56,320
did our brigade notice what that with that tweet by

846
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,199
Donald on his untruth social platform, what it was really saying?

847
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,360
You know how I always referred to Donald as like

848
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,480
a mob boss, that he speaks in code. So if

849
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:10,760
you read through the lines, what is he basically doing.

850
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:16,280
He's reminding Rupert that he has a massive contingency of

851
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:24,679
followers that are or could be former Fox viewership, and

852
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,760
so that they are leaving now in droves. Right because

853
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,119
you're throwing the anchor under the table, which makes no

854
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,000
fucking sense in and of itself. You don't throw, you know,

855
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,519
want to throw shoes under the table. How are you

856
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,920
throwing an anchor under a table? One is in a boat,

857
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,199
the other is no.

858
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: No, no no no no no. I analyze this, Coen, You

859
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,320
and I both thought the same way. This is what

860
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,159
he means, and I had the exact same feeling that

861
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:50,519
you did.

862
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh trust me, I know what he means here. This

863
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:56,800
is basically a It's an implied threat to Rupert to

864
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:00,719
stop the ship against him. All right, come back on

865
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:06,239
board right with what Jared used to be. Because Evanka

866
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:12,039
happens to be Rupert's kids godmother and Wendy, Rupert's ex wife,

867
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:16,960
is Evanka and Jared's kids, you know, godmother as well.

868
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,360
So they play that bullshit back and forth somehow. What

869
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,480
this is really doing is this is supposed to be

870
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:30,320
a threat to Rupert that get in line or you're

871
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,760
going to financially suffer. I'm sorry you were saying, Ben,

872
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,840
So I was.

873
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,079
Speaker 1: Trying to look up idioms and say anchor under the table,

874
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,760
like is this some expression that I've never heard before?

875
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,719
And you know, Trump barely makes sense in the statements

876
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,360
that he that he says. But what he's actually saying,

877
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:51,599
what I believe he's trying to say, is you're throwing

878
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:56,599
your anchors, your news anchors like Tucker and Ingraham and

879
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Hannity under the bus. But he doesn't know the expression

880
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,079
under the bus. So he's saying you're throwing them under

881
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,440
the table when he means under the bus. And what

882
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,280
he's specifically referring to is the deposition testimony we have

883
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,039
from the New Dominion filing in their one point six

884
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,880
billion dollar defamation lawsuit, and specifically there's this one transcript

885
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,159
in salty. It's one of the last ones we have

886
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,280
where it talks about the next day was January sixth,

887
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,119
and it cites deposition transcripts where it says Rupert understood

888
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:38,800
that Fox could do something about the false claims. Indeed,

889
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,519
he believed Fox was uniquely positioned to state the message

890
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,199
that the election was not stolen. On January fifth, Rupert

891
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:53,639
and Scott discussed whether Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham should say

892
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,320
some version of quote, the election is over and Joe

893
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,920
Biden won. He hoped those words quote would go a

894
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,320
long way to stop the Trump myth that the election

895
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,159
was stolen. Scott, that's Suzanne Scott, the CEO of Fox.

896
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:12,760
When you're seeing Scott, so the CEO. Scott told Rupert

897
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,320
Murdoch that quote. Privately, they are all there, but quote,

898
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,840
we need to be careful about using the shows and

899
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,159
pissing off the viewers. So nobody ever made a statement.

900
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:31,760
The next day was January sixth, So privately, they are

901
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,320
all there, meaning Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham all were there,

902
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,960
that the election is over and Joe Biden won. Privately,

903
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:46,000
they all made that statement, and they were uniquely positioned

904
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,199
to state that message. However, they were worried about this.

905
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: As much as I would like to believe, as much

906
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,039
as i'd like to believe you are giving a rational

907
00:58:56,199 --> 00:59:03,480
explanation to an improper again statement made by Donald who

908
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:07,760
really has no command of the English language. The idiom

909
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:10,960
that you're referring anchor under the table, it doesn't exist.

910
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:13,800
I looked at up while you were reading this. It

911
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,039
does not exist. There's no such a thing. And maybe

912
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:18,280
he wants to make one up and he'll say, he's

913
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,239
so clever, be with this man woman TV camera, right,

914
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,719
I mean, you know person, you know, maybe he thinks

915
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,159
he's going to make up some sort of a statement

916
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,679
anchor under the table. Oh yeah, I love saying. I

917
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,079
was saying that what is he's not? But he's not

918
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,880
referring to the anchor you know of a show. He's yeah,

919
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,039
I don't know. Listen again, why are we trying to

920
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:48,400
figure out the as they said in Young Frankenstein, the

921
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:52,840
nonsensical rantings of a lunatic mind? Right, you remember that

922
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,960
with the famous line by Gene Wilder, Right, it's the

923
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,639
nonsensical rantings of a lunatic mind. That's unfortun who we had.

924
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,239
And if we all don't get together and we don't

925
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:09,360
all start, you know, ensuring that the brigade continues and

926
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,519
we are growing, folks. I hope that you continue, you know,

927
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:15,639
to see how great the show is actually doing in

928
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:19,559
the you know, in the charts where really, I mean,

929
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,840
we're killing it. So thank you all for being a

930
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,239
part of that. But we need to grow this to

931
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,519
ensure that our voices are really heard and heard with

932
01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:33,000
the force and the power of a brigade. And that's

933
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,039
why again, you know, please make sure that you support

934
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:39,800
Midas Touched the Midas Network. If you have a chance,

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check out my Maya Culpa podcast, check out Legal af,

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checkout Politics Girl, check out Midas Mighty. Check just try

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to ensure that you stay within this group because this

938
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:56,280
is the place that you will get your raw, unfiltered

939
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:03,280
and totally truthful information. No shit here, not accepted, not accepted,

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01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:06,960
not accepted. So we ask you stay with us, please

941
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:09,920
support them so that we could continue to do this

942
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,679
and we could continue to bring you updated news. And

943
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:17,360
I promise you one thing, my brigaders. A lot of

944
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,679
shit's happening right now in New York, whether it's the

945
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Attorney General and God bless our unsinkable Attorney General Tis James,

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who is going to financially slap that fat ass of

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Donald's like he's never been slapped before. All right, maybe

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mommy and Daddy should have done it, But what he's

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going to do to that fat ass is something grotesque.

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I mean, I think it's so grotesque it would make

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the devil vomit. But at the end of the day,

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it's going to be in my opinion, Alvin Bragg, who

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is sort of the he's like the long shot that

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nobody thought was going to happen. You're going to see

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a lot of things coming out of the DA's office,

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and I think he'll deserve a lot of kudos if

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when that happens. I do believe that it's going to

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be sooner than later. So stay here, stay with Ben

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and myself and be the first to learn what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for watching this episode of Political Beatdown.

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Just to give you all the specific number because I

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saw some of the comments in the Jonestown Massinger massacred.

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Speaker 2: It was about a thousand.

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Speaker 1: It was nine hundred cultists. Two hundred children were killed

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in the massacre.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you all get Cohen's new book, Revenge. It's

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out wherever you can get books and audio books. Revenge.

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Definitely check that out check out Cohen's other pod, Maya Kulpa.

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It is great. We had the exclusive footage on the

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Midas Touch YouTube channel of his interview with Lev Parness

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That was one of the most compelling interviews. I think

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you can just do a full documentary of just you

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and Lev speaking for two hours and sharing stories, but

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for those who want to check it out on our

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YouTube channel, you at least get that hour for free

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right there. Make sure you see Cohen's interview with Levparnis

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and make sure you subscribe as well to Maya Kulpa

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with that set as well, make sure you subscribe to

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this YouTube channel. We are marching to one million subscribers

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audio podcasts, please also subscribe to Political Beatdown. Wherever audio

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able to get it there. Also check out Patreon dot com,

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could also check out store dotmitastouch dot com for the

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I want to thank everybody for watching this episode of

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Political Beatdown. If you want the full breakdown of the

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Fox filing, there's a forty five minute video that I

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did which goes through every single page. It's on our

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YouTube channel. We will see you next time here on

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Political Beatdown. That will be on Thursday. Michael Cohen, always

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so much fun spending this time with you bretting the

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truth and everybody we really really obrigators.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the Midas Mighty