WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast. 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.919 If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn. 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:12.599 With your host Corey Winfield, you. 4 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:14.439 Know how you know fish as bad as you can't 5 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:15.599 put it on pizza. 6 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.440 And special guest Justin Burke. 7 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.960 I said something about that to our master radio broadcaster 8 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:27.920 and he said that he didn't hear nothing got your ass. 9 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.960 It is Friday, January tenth, twenty twenty five. My name's 10 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.000 Corey Winfield and I'm Justin Burke. Welcome the two seventeen 11 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:42.399 Recovery Podcast. Justin Burke. Very special day for you yesterday. Yeah, 12 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.320 it was is your five years continued? Sobriety? 13 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:46.960 Yep? 14 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:48.159 How that feel? 15 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.799 It felt amazing? Actually five years five years. I never 16 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:57.880 thought I would achieve the things I did in five years. 17 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:02.200 Like when they talk about the promises and stuff, you 18 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.959 know how things take time, and just trust the process, 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.000 and like really trust the process. And even though it's 20 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.640 going to take some time, be okay with that because 21 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.560 evidently there's somewhere else in your life that needs improving 22 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.959 before the thing that you want to happen happens. 23 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.560 Yeah them stack Guy used to be a huge stack 24 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.760 guy and I'm so dumb. I would look up treatment 25 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.040 centers based on their success rate and I will call 26 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.920 them and be like, what's your success rate? And because 27 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:33.480 I wanted to know that, and they'll be like, oh, 28 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.879 seventy eight percent. If you ever call a place and 29 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:37.519 you ask them that and they give you a number, 30 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.200 hang up, Yeah, don't go to that place because they're 31 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.040 straight uplying to you because they don't know. They don't 32 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.159 call back, like they can tell you how many people 33 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:48.319 successfully complete treatment. But that's not what I was wanting 34 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:49.719 to know. I wanted to know was I was I 35 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.640 going to be healed? Were they gonna fix me? 36 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.079 And I think that's where they get their success rate from, 37 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.959 is how many people actually complete their program from the 38 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:57.959 people that don't. 39 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.560 Right, which is not what I want to know. I 40 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.400 want to know. I wants to be fixed. And I 41 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.439 didn't realize at the time that was like early on 42 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:07.040 when I was going to treatment, I have to fix myself. Yeah, 43 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.439 you know, like you can't go to treatment and expect 44 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.360 them to fix you. Like, no one's going to fix you, 45 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:13.439 not at all. It's all on you. 46 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:19.240 It's on you being willingness to have the willingness to 47 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:23.639 be guided through a process of recovery. And by guided, 48 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.599 I mean by the peers that are around you, whether 49 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:31.039 if it's your sponsor, a recovery coach, or whoever that 50 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.280 you talk to on a daily basis. Those are the 51 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.520 people that's trying to guide you. It could even be 52 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.560 the people in the treatment center while you're there for 53 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.280 the thirty sixty ninety days that are trying to show 54 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.599 you the right direction to take. And like when I 55 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.159 went through treatment, I found that out very quickly. Like 56 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.080 a lot of people told me don't go to this 57 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:56.159 sober living house because I wouldn't fit in, and you 58 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.960 were like, no, you should really go there, Yeah, Like 59 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:00.520 you want a good life, go there. 60 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.319 Yeah. And Jason the Beck was one thrown out numbers 61 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:05.120 and I remember he said one time, and they could 62 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.639 be bullshit numbers or whatever. I don't know, but he 63 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:11.080 was like, if you live in sober living for six 64 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.840 months after treatment and you do what you need to 65 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.000 do and successfully move out of sober living, you have 66 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.000 like a seventy eight percent chance to make it to 67 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.159 a year. And then you start throwing other numbers out, 68 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.280 and I remember one, I want to say it was him, 69 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:25.879 threw it out there. But he said, if you make 70 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.080 it to five years, you have like a ninety or 71 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.759 ninety five percent chance to remain sober the rest of 72 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.159 your life. Yeah, And I was like, hell yeah, so 73 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:35.960 like a five year mark. It was a big deal. 74 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:41.560 And so congratulations on that job. And then we had 75 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.159 to go to a meeting last night. Yep. He used 76 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.719 to be Families Against Narcotics. They changed their name to 77 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.879 Face Addiction now. Yeah, so they're still fan, but just 78 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:56.439 different fan. Yeah, and we were there, the two seventeen guys. 79 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.159 We all showed up. Martie came, Little Parker was there, 80 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.159 Corey jes see, Mitch. I mean the whole crew pretty 81 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.680 much missing a couple of people, but the whole crew 82 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.080 is there to show our support for Face Addiction now 83 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:11.719 in Grand Travers County, and they support us and they 84 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.960 actually have I guess you'd call it a scholarship for 85 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.959 one of the services we provide as a transportation. And 86 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.879 you know how it's funded. Right now, if somebody is 87 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:26.040 in the Region two, which is NMR Northern Michigan, if 88 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.920 they have Medicaid and they go to treatment and they 89 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.199 have that, we can hook them up with a ride. 90 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.720 But people who live in Lansing in southwest Michigan and 91 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.480 in other areas they can't use the services because they 92 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:40.480 have a different they you know, does their medicaid and stuff. 93 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.879 And there's also people who have insurance but don't have 94 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.600 three four hundred bucks to get to treatment, you know, 95 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:53.439 and and that sucks. But Fan stepped in and they're like, hey, 96 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.639 you know we can, we can help out and kind 97 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.079 of get those people where they need to go. So 98 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.839 we're like, all right, cool. So they did I don't know, 99 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.959 five rides they. 100 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.879 Yeah, pretty much out average, like five to seven rides. 101 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.240 Yeah, since September when they started talking about, hey, we 102 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.879 want to help out. So yeah, big props to them 103 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.680 on that. And we wanted to shore Sport for them. 104 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.399 And Jeff who's the president, comes to our events and 105 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.519 he supports us. I'm like, we have to support them. 106 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.439 You know. The last few meetings, they didn't have one 107 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.800 in December, but I think November and October we were 108 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:27.160 busy and nobody could make it. 109 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.439 I actually went to the one in November, did you yep? 110 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.759 Because that's when he said there was going to be 111 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.720 board opportunities on DH that's right, And I came back 112 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:38.720 to you because I took Justine because you said I 113 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.000 actually really go to that. Yeah, I actually had the time. 114 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:42.720 I said, well, if you don't mind me cutting not 115 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.800 a few minutes to work early to be able to 116 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.399 go get my daughter and take her to it, because 117 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:50.800 she enjoys hanging around Jeff and and the rest of 118 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:54.720 the board members there, like she's actually become part of 119 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.120 who I am up here, and everybody knows. They're like, well, 120 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.160 where's your daughter at? Yeah, you know, and it's it's 121 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.240 kind of a great feeling to actually have that. But 122 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.600 he said there was open board seats in November, and 123 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.720 I came back past you. I was like, would you 124 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.800 support me if I did that? You know, because sometimes 125 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.040 they do their own things, you know, and on the weekends, 126 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.839 it means I would be doing stuff for them, and 127 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.160 if that was okay, you know, And you're like, no, 128 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.240 I totally support that, and I fill up my applicate, 129 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.480 finished filling it out what yesterday I had. I asked 130 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.000 Mitch for a little bit of help. I was like, 131 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.439 don't worry about hurting my feelings, just tell me the 132 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:45.439 truth because I'm not really good at really deciding, like 133 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:50.480 skills for myself, if that makes any sense, And like 134 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:56.079 sometimes I'm a little too blunt, and so I'm like, well, oh, 135 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.759 I don't think this one would work. And he's like, yeah, no, 136 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:02.480 he was like, you're you're not the best at that 137 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.240 justin He's like, you know what you're talking about, but 138 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.319 you don't articulate good enough to be able to do 139 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:13.199 that obviously. So thanks Mitch. 140 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.879 Having fun with the board. Yeah, and Mitch's on the 141 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.439 board as well for fan and I suggested he do 142 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:20.600 that like last year and stuff because he wanted to 143 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:22.920 be more involved in the community and the recovery community 144 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.720 and stuff like that. And it's like it's a good 145 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.040 way to be involved, you know, is to get out 146 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.279 and do things. You just come to work and go home, 147 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.759 Like sure, you accomplish some things, and but to be 148 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:35.600 a real part of it, you know, and kind of 149 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.600 step into a different role. And I think it's it's 150 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.160 kind of big that we do kind of stuff like that. 151 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.399 But you get accepted onto the board, yep. And then 152 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:51.879 then then oh, they say, does anybody want to be Uh, 153 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:55.519 we have some open seats in our you know, executive 154 00:07:55.959 --> 00:08:00.199 board member positions and we're looking for vice president we're 155 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.040 looking for treasure secretary. 156 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.199 Well, secretary was already off the table for me, right, Yeah, 157 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.800 I'm not I'm not good at typing. I mean I 158 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.839 can type, but it's like chicken peck. I never learned 159 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.720 how to type in school. I may have allegedly paid 160 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.319 someone else to do all my typing lessons the past 161 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:19.160 typing class. 162 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.079 So you're just like, I'll just go for a vice president. 163 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.519 Well, treasure, I mean I could handle numbers. 164 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.079 You know, like SCEL a little bit. 165 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:31.680 Yeah, yeah, well right, I do know a little bit 166 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.440 from doing our invoices here and stuff and how we 167 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.559 record our data. We're how we've talked about recording our 168 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.360 data and everything else. So I'm pretty fluent in that stuff. 169 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:51.279 So treasure wouldn't have been too bad. But vice president 170 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:52.200 why not? 171 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:52.559 Right? 172 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:58.639 Why not the least responsibility role, and you're the vice president, 173 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.679 it's like being the vice president of the United States. 174 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.799 I was like, oh my god. And then Corey Smoker, 175 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.240 our very own Corey Smoker, She's like, wait a minute, 176 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.960 I just get my board application to you then too, 177 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:18.080 because I'll be secretary. So then she steps in the secretary. Yeah, 178 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:21.360 It's like wow, like we're two seventeen recoveries taking this 179 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.600 over and I jokingly said, then, I'm like, they're not 180 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.720 on our boards, but they're on this board. That's great, 181 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:32.320 you know, but we'll see. I hopefully you guys aren't 182 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:35.639 biting off more than you can chew. And like you said, 183 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:38.120 what does the vice president do that? 184 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:41.600 Filling for Jeff when he's not there right, which he 185 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.080 told me in April he won't be there. Which I'm 186 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:46.440 kind of nervous about that because, like I mean, I've 187 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.279 gone to a few fan meetings over the years, but 188 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.399 to actually have to step in and fill that role, 189 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:55.480 I'm actually kind of nervous. 190 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:57.480 How mad would you be if there's a fan meeting 191 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:00.960 the night that we go to the Tigers game and 192 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:04.360 Jeff's there and you're not sorry to the Tigers game. 193 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:08.480 Yeah, well I think we would invite. 194 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:09.720 Them to cancel the meeting that night. 195 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.720 Well, if it's just a board meeting, just a board meeting, 196 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.200 I mean, I'm sure we could rearrange that a little bit. 197 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:21.279 Say sorry, two seventeens invited us all out to the 198 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.039 Tigers game with them. You know, do you guys mind 199 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.240 postponing in the game the meeting for a week. You know, 200 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:30.919 let's go have some fun and recovery. 201 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:32.720 Lots of fun and recovery. 202 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.159 We had because we took Jeff last year to the 203 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.200 Tigers game, right, So I mean that's nothing new that 204 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:42.600 we don't. I mean that we do play well with 205 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.919 others and in our community and everything else. 206 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:49.600 With inviting them, do you believe they're still together? Who 207 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.559 all the ship they've been through? Fan where the Tigers 208 00:10:53.840 --> 00:11:01.279 not your butt cheeks? I was waiting this whole podcast 209 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:09.120 to do that joke that's triggered. Nah, But yeah, congrats 210 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.279 on the five years and you know, on the role 211 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:17.039 of being vice president and you know you're continuing journey 212 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:21.679 in recovery and then the recovery community around here. It 213 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.080 means a lot to be involved, man, and to have 214 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.399 those responsibilities. And you might look at it like, oh, 215 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.039 you know, there's not a lot to do, but there 216 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.320 are some responsibilities. You know, like you said, you're already 217 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.200 kind of nervous about it, but it'll all work out 218 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:36.039 how it's supposed to. But to just sit back and go, 219 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:37.440 I wish I would have been on the board. I 220 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:38.799 wish I would have done this. I wish I would 221 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.559 have done that. You know, like there's a lot of 222 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.360 things I don't have to say because I just went 223 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:44.279 out and did it. You know, I was on a 224 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.120 fans board for a minute and it was a little 225 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.120 too much for me. I had to step down. I 226 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:50.960 was he and Rights Commissioner here in Traverse City for 227 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.159 a while. Then Parker's birth. I was like, I really 228 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:55.960 don't have time for this, and we're trying to expand 229 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.000 and do different things at two seventeen Recovery, it is 230 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.360 like I can't do it. Like I got on the 231 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:04.679 MARCO board, which MARCO is the Michigan Association Recovery Community Organizations, 232 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.320 And I don't know how much long' I gonna stand that. 233 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.080 You know, I'm so busy trying to do this thing 234 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:17.720 and do this and we really don't have a lot 235 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.080 of time for tom foolery too, you know. 236 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.039 And you have and you hold a lot of meetings 237 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.799 just for what we do here and what we're trying 238 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.679 to do in the future. And so like when someone says, oh, 239 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:34.480 well we got a MARCO meeting, where a qRT meeting 240 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:40.080 or whatever, You're like, man, can I just skip says today? 241 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.320 Like I got it's more important to it. 242 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.240 I know, and there's a lot of times where, you know, 243 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.080 I would skip those meetings, and I thought to myself, like, 244 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:48.600 how do these people have time to go to this 245 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.480 so many meetings? Like they stink that in radio, you know, 246 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.960 they would have meetings in Ben Harbor anyway. They would 247 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.120 have meetings just to have meetings. They have a meeting 248 00:12:58.159 --> 00:12:59.360 of they had One time, I had a meeting about 249 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:00.919 a meeting that was up, and I said, You've got 250 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.039 to be shitting me, Like I have a radio station 251 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.200 to run, I have stuff to do, and you guys 252 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.039 are having a meeting about the upcoming meeting. That is stupid, 253 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.159 like nothing's gonna have wasn't like an important like oh 254 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.080 we got it. No, it was just they had nothing 255 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.320 else to do in their job, and so they like 256 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.679 to have meetings. It makes them feel good. But I'm 257 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.320 not a big fan of that, Like I'll have a 258 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.320 meeting when I need one, right. But and I'm not 259 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:25.720 talking about AA meetings or recovering me. I'm talking about 260 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.039 just like a meeting, a business meeting, you know, but 261 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.080 some of these are just like oh my god. 262 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.600 Well, honestly, if you're actually running things right, I mean, 263 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.759 as the executive director I mean, like you have a 264 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.399 lot on your plate with just day to day operations, 265 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.960 looking for new grants and everything else, Like these grants 266 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:48.639 just don't land in your lap. 267 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.759 Sometimes. Not just kidding, no, but yeah, but you're right, 268 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.679 and you know, like I said, the things that we 269 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.720 want to do, and I know Marnie's a big part 270 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.200 of that too, and she's picking up the slack and 271 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.480 that aspect of like it's spinning off a totally different direction, 272 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:10.279 which I think would be great for us. I personally 273 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:15.000 can't invest much time in that project because we have 274 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.039 to do what we're doing now because we do have funding, 275 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.799 and we do have things that we have to accomplish 276 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.440 with these grants that we have now. So it's like 277 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.759 we got to take care of business here. But doesn't 278 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:29.759 mean we can't expand and do other things. It's just 279 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.279 I can't be that much invested in that project, you know, 280 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:35.759 like in the end that I can just look at 281 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.480 some things. Okay, maybe this may bee that, but you know, 282 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:40.080 if you guys want to make it happen, you know, 283 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.679 this is this is your baby, And I told her, 284 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.559 this is your baby. You you can go figure that 285 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:47.559 one out and. 286 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.879 I'll help you with it, but just bring me like 287 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.360 abrough draft of the project. 288 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.480 Yeah, and yeah, I've been praying yeah, you know, that's 289 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.480 a huge part of it right there. And some people 290 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.159 are like, I don't believe it that. Oh that's cool, 291 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.279 don't I do? And God has set with me and 292 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.879 he will come to me in dreams. You know. He 293 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:09.000 doesn't come down and be like, hey, do this, but 294 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:10.840 I'll just have a dream, a weird dream, and I'll 295 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:13.080 be like, why didn't I think about that? You know? 296 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.639 And then I'm like, damn, there was a grant that 297 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.000 came out that said those exact words, and let me 298 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:20.639 go back and see it. I'm like, yep, we could 299 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.039 have funded that with that dang. But when I saw it, 300 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.679 I didn't even think about it because it wasn't on 301 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.240 my mind. It wasn't on my radar. And that's why 302 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:27.799 I'm saying, like God like talks to me, because he 303 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.000 puts it in my head and it's like boom, like 304 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.240 do this yeah, and they're like damn. 305 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.000 And that's actually been well known through a lot of 306 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:42.279 different cultures that the creator, God, whatever your pathway is, 307 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.159 will come to you in dreams, and things like that 308 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.159 were just maybe by hearing a clip on a radio 309 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.720 station or something, you know, like ding light bob oh, 310 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.639 he was definitely talking. That was there for that exact 311 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.960 time for me to listen to it, because that was 312 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:01.559 talking to me. 313 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:05.679 Yeah. So I do my praying and then as I'm 314 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.120 praying about it, and then all of a sudden, people 315 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.600 start reaching out like, hey, how come that this doesn't 316 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.440 exist and how would we do that? I'm like, that's 317 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.440 what we're working on. You want to be a part 318 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.000 of it because we can definitely use the support. Yeah, 319 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.159 you know, if you guys are saying, hey, we need 320 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.519 this and let's talk, let's chat, you know, because we're 321 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.120 already kind of going down that road. Yep. So it'll 322 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.559 be interesting. But yeah, it does take up time though, 323 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:34.759 and when you're involved in other things. But it's a 324 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.759 good thing because at least you won't ever look back 325 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:39.039 and go Man, I wish I would have been on 326 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.440 the fan board. I wish I would have just went 327 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:42.799 for it. I wish I would have done it to 328 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.960 gain more experience and you know, to meet more people 329 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.799 and to be more involved. And you can sit on 330 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.559 the sideline all day, but sometimes you got to get 331 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:52.039 in the game. 332 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.279 Yeah, and I know a few of the four board 333 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:58.039 members were fans from a previous organization I worked at. 334 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.519 So I mean, it's not horrible. 335 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.240 Right, And our phone is ringing? 336 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.640 Yeah I heard that when obviously phones start ringing in 337 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:09.720 your office. 338 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.200 When people don't answer it at the front desk. 339 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:13.440 I thought that thing was on silent. 340 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:19.079 No, oh you changed it. Yeah, someone changed it. It 341 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.599 rings and irritates this what we're doing podcasts now, it 342 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.000 doesn't irritate us, but it does irritate us when it's 343 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.960 the people calling that the wrong numbers are not the 344 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:31.000 wrong numbers, but they have a right number. But just 345 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.319 that person hasn't lived here in five years? Is chain? 346 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.839 There is merry there. Yeah, that gets old and we're like, no, 347 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:38.559 please don't call back, and then they cuss us out. 348 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.319 We're like, I just said not to call back. Man. 349 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.480 We both experienced that, Yeah, in the same day. Take 350 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:46.240 us off your list. 351 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:50.519 No, Mary doesn't live here, right, And sometimes we get 352 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.880 animated with it. Sometimes it is fun, though, but a 353 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:54.640 lot of times it's more irritating because you'll be on 354 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:56.279 the other side of the building and then phone ring 355 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:57.400 in and you got to go find it, and you 356 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.240 get it and they're like hello, it's marry there like 357 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:06.880 no nop click and then say bye, no hang up 358 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:09.160 on you. I'm like, okay, cool, So I shouldn't feel 359 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.880 bad hanging up on them next time, not one bit. Yeah, 360 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:18.319 but yeah, today though, is a Friday in Michigan. It's 361 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.920 it's a little little cold. I mean it's January, that's 362 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:21.440 what happens. 363 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:27.200 But out in California, man, man, they are burning up, dude, 364 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:32.240 are they? Yeah, the whole LA region are they? It's 365 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:32.880 on fire? 366 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:35.839 Are they? Are we getting fake news? 367 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:43.519 I don't think it's fake news. I do think. I 368 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.920 do think there has to do with something with the 369 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:53.119 president to be elected telling them four or five years 370 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.599 ago that hey, you really need to fix this before 371 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:01.720 something devastating happens, and no one bothered to fix it. 372 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.920 They were giving monies to build reservoirs, and reservoirs were 373 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.720 never built in these areas, and just so happen to be, 374 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.319 these strong winds come in, like hurricane force winds they 375 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.559 call him, like the Sierra winds or something, and someone 376 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.119 decided they were gonna go light some fires where maybe 377 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.079 televopole broke and sparked a fire. 378 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.119 I heard it started in someone's backyard garden. 379 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:31.839 I'm really not for sure. The one fire, the newest fire. 380 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.599 They did catch someone leaving the area where the fire 381 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:39.160 was started. Now, is he just the fall guy? 382 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.960 I don't know, he's the patsy. Yeah, because my brother 383 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.839 who lives out there, because I was like, bro, like 384 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.519 what's going on? He lives in West Hollywood. I'm like, dude, 385 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.920 why are you starting fires in your back garden? And 386 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.960 he said it wasn't him, And he took a picture 387 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.119 and sent it to us and you could see some 388 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:57.799 some kind of burning or whatever. And I was like, 389 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.319 so are you going to evacuate? And he's like now, 390 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.680 I was like, this is not that bad? Is the news? 391 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.920 Are they exaggerating it? He's like both. He's like some 392 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:12.160 under exaggerated, others over exaggerate it, you know. And I 393 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.559 think the national ones are over exaggerating it. But some 394 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:17.720 of the videos coming in are crazy. Man, Like I 395 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.160 saw this one dude. He had like this sprinkler system 396 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:22.640 or what, I don't even know what it's called, but 397 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.480 it's set up to like just kind of it just 398 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.480 kind of just seeps out water all over his house. 399 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:32.599 And he's in there with his kid or whoever it was, 400 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.079 and their dog and they're just watching the fire like 401 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:38.000