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Speaker 2: Yes, once again, we have lyft Off. I want to
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of The Big Truth Podcast, and I want to welcome
my guest today, doctor Yaffiyier, who is has a multifaceted background.
She's a clinical psychologist, a channel, multidimensional channel, a hypnotist,
an author, and uh someone who uh I I find
this very interesting your your background as someone that's a scientist,
but also as someone who's you know, so deep into spiritual,
the spiritual realm of things.
Speaker 4: So, yes, the Age of Aquarius is here, you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can talk about the the uh, the
you know, the the the interplay between those two realms
because you know, they can be different, but they can
also be they can be mutually exclusive, or they can
be uh you know, or they they can go off
one of each other pretty well, play off each other.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So for our listeners that might not be familiar with you,
why don't you give a little bit of you know,
give us a little bit about your background and how
you even got into all this stuff, like both both
the psychology and also the spiritual elements of things.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely so, I was. I did. As you mentioned,
I'm a clinical psychologist. That means I went through a
whole training of becoming a doctor in clinical psychology, which
is eleven years of very left brain analytical training and
way of thinking. Uh. And while that was happening, I
kind of put aside my more creative, intuitive side, although
it's been with me since I was a little girl,
since I can ever remember. And in twenty twelve, I
was still doing my training. So I graduated in twenty fourteen,
so we're talking two years before I graduated, I had
this major spiritual awakening. First, it started as just an interest.
I was just so interested in anything spiritual, anything paranormal.
I started I discovered the Seth material, which was absolutely
mind expanding and incredible, and I, let's see what else
happened in my life. I discovered hypnosis, So that was
a beautiful way for me to bring my new interests
of spirituality into the clinical field that I was practicing
as a psychologist, doing therapy and testing really mainstream stuff
until I discovered hypnosis, which totally sparked my fascination and
I started going. Oh and then in twenty twelve, my mom,
who was my absolute best friend, transitioned, and it happened
very quickly. She went from a healthy sixty three year
old woman to diagnose with cancer without even knowing which
kind of cancer. Within two months she was gone. So
it happened very very quickly. It was a big shock,
but also a huge push to delve even deeply, more
deeply into the spiritual journey, into experiencing things for myself.
My desire to know what's beyond and to believe in
spiritual reality not just as an interesting idea, but as
a reality, as a practice, as an experience. That really
became very real when my mom transitioned and I started
going to the Monroe Institute about a year before that
I started meditating daily, So it really all kind of
happened together from different directions, and spirituality became my life
purpose and my journey. And that's when I realized that I, no,
I cannot be a mainstream psychologist. So I graduated in
twenty fourteen, and I had to make a decision. Until then,
I was working for other people, so I was as
mainstream as it gets, and now it was time to
work for myself. I wanted to work for myself and
I wanted to do my own thing, and that I
realized could not be. I could not really fulfill my
passion by remaining a mainstream psychologist. I had to take
it in a different direction. I had to take it beyond.
I had to go deeper than what the field allowed,
maybe still allows, but it was definitely even more strict
than square when I graduated. So I decided, yeah, go ahead,
Oh no, no, That's what I was like.
Speaker 2: When you were studying psychology and you were going through
your doctorate program, you know, was your what? What? What
was your because I know there's a lot of areas
of that, like what was your area of specialization? And
did did spirituality creep into that at all? Or was
it just like until after you graduated and after you
you left the general field, then you started integrating both.
Like because I was going to say, like that would
I'd feel like because I went through part part of
graduate school and anthropology and you.
Speaker 4: Know, anthropology was my minor. I love anthropology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know the environment of like some of
these institutions, and I can't imagine that there would be
a lot of you know, if you were if you
were trying to integrate parapsychology or anything like that into
a regular program, there might have been a little bit
of resistance there for lack of you know, to put.
Speaker 4: It mildly, you know, yes, definitely putting it mildly. There
was a lot of resistance even just to integrate mainstream
psychology and we're not even talking spiritual psychology. Even psychology.
Even integrating that into the regular practice, you had to
find specialized supervisors that were comfortable with that, and it
wasn't easy. There would be like one in the whole program.
So people were still not comfortable even accepting hypnosis as
an accepted science accepted therapy. So absolutely, and when you
talk about past life regression or spiritual exploration, We were
specifically directed by the American Psychological Association because my first
training in hypnosis was through the clinical field. So we
were trained that if people come to us and ask
about past life regression, we should answer there is no
such thing. And that was not okay with me. That
was the main thing I wanted to do at the time.
Then I discovered Michael Newton with Life Between Lives, and
then I was trained with the lower skin in doing QHHD.
So my hypnosis practice became more and more spiritual and
more and more expensive. And even before discovering the Lower Skin,
and I was already on that path of developing my
own intuition, my own psychic connection, and because I had
those gifts, those abilities that I decided to put aside,
but I was born with them. So when I really
decided to dedicate myself to exploring and expanding and developing
those gifts, they really opened. And so hypnosis was the
way of integrating it into my practice. But I also
started doing energy work, which I was actually trained in
before I even got into psychology, but it's like I
completely forgot it. It was a different compartment in my head.
And then I started doing readings, so my work became
one more spiritual. But hypnosis was the gateway in terms
of putting a crap in that clinical field, allowing some
spirituality to come into that and some open and flexibility
because the clinical field, especially when you talk about training
and supervisor, tends to be really really rigid and not
very accepting of anything outside of the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So so the hypnosis was the bridge for you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, hypnosis and personally meditation.
Speaker 2: Sure. Now, going back to when you were a child,
a little girl, like when did you first know that
you had you know, psychic abilities or gifts or you know,
you know when when did when did that kind of
come about? And like what was it like were you
were you seeing spirits or you know, like how to
go because I've had a couple of mediums on before,
and it's there's there's there's a lot of cross threading,
but there's also a lot of differences. So it's it's
always interesting to see how, you know, your origin story,
like how you how you found these out about these
abilities and and uh, you know, you know how that
was especially like growing up, like because a lot of
people like I had to kind of shut it out
because it was you know, trying to go to school
in high school and I'm seeing spirits or something.
Speaker 4: And in high school. Yeah, for me, it wasn't even
high school. My parents weren't accepting of it. My mom
told me to stop with my nonsense, so I had
to put it aside pretty quickly. So I didn't see spirits.
And whatever I did see, I don't remember. I do
think I experienced things that I don't remember, and I
think it's intentional. Sometimes were blocked from remembering, and I
may have had et experiences and visitations that I do
not remember. But what I do remember, and I'm talking
since I was really really young, we're trobly like this
three year old, four year old playing with energy with
my hands, sending energy for my hands, trying to affect
the stream of water from the faucet. So I kept
on trying to manipulate reality through energy. I used the
word hypnotizing people, but it was really sending friends energy
from my hands to their heads and saying stuff. And
it's funny that I used the word HYPNOTI I didn't
know what it meant. It was very little and what
else I was trying to levitate? So I was getting
the kids in the neighborhood to basically meditate with me.
We didn't call it meditation, but to close our eyes
and to focus and to try to lift up. And
I had all these like crazy ideas as a child.
You know, parents were not always crazy about me.
Speaker 2: Did you ever succeed in the levitation?
Speaker 4: No, not not livitation. I couldn't affect material, physical material
with my hands with my energy. And it was almost
frustrating for me as a child because for some reason
I had that sense that it was possible, and I
didn't know why it wasn't working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the drive to do it, but you
couldn't figure out how to how to how to make
it go.
Speaker 4: And since then I've heard from other people. From two
other people I heard that that have since then had
remembrance of being abducted as children, and abducted is really
an antiquated term. But being taken on board ships and
being trained to manipulate energy and to do different games
that has to do with paranormal abilities in esp and
everything that I did as a child seems very consistent
with the training that is typically done with children on
board ships. And when I was eight years old, I
did see a spaceship. It was daylight sighting and it
was basically leaving it zigzagged in the sky and then
it took off. And back then it was my only memory,
so I thought it was my first experience. Now looking back,
and I had this realization relatively recently, I think actually
that was a goodbye. I think that's when I was
old enough to maybe, I don't know, start remembering. I
don't know what's the reason. I can make up reasons,
but I think that was when they left and that
was a goodbye, but leaving me with this validation that
magical things and extraordinary things are real. So living this
drop of knowing, drop of validation and then disappearing for
my life.
Speaker 2: Sure, now the just you know, I'm not trying to
skip in a fast forward here, but you had mentioned
that you know that there was possible et uh you're
you know, taken by ET's or UFOs and but you
don't fully remember, but you do pass life aggressive. Have
you ever undergone past life regression to yourself to try
and recall any of this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've done as a participant QHHT session, which
is the lowest cannon system, and I've also done several
passive regressions, and I've had many experiences through the Monroe
Institute or even meditating it. So I had all kinds
of experiences with memories of past life, of different existences,
but never of I was never able to remember anything
from my childhood in terms of interacting with ET's and
I've tried. Oh, I have tried, so as far as
I know, I haven't had any experiences. But I have
so many indications, even a mark in the back of
my neck that used to trigger the airport scanner for
years until I actually considered removing it and then it disappeared.
So there's so many indications that there were some kind
of interactions, but nothing that I could bring to you
a memory Oh one day, I hope sure.
Speaker 2: Now do you think do you think it's you just
haven't you know, got down the pathway of remembering that,
or do you think there's like a purposeful block on that.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think there's there has to be a purposeful block.
Will it will be removed. I'm usually being told by
other people, not by my guides, that had similar experiences,
that at some point it's usually removed and we can remember.
But you know, for me, this is all hypothesis. I
don't know. I know I've had that sighting an eight
year old Since then, I've had many sidings in recent years,
but as I said, not beings, not face to face
with beings, which is of course what I want the most,
not only to remember in the past, but that's what
I'm looking forward in terms of the future. As this
is jumping way ahead, but this is I believe and
what I've been told that is for my guides from
Hathor is where we're headed. So that's something I'm really
really looking forward to, and I'm seeing it as a
maybe even the most exciting and fascinating aspect of my
journey and my path.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. And so you mentioned Monroe Institute. That's
the same Monroe Institute that's been around for a long time, right,
Like didn't wasn't there, Like government didn't it. The government
did experiments and working there like the FIA or one
of them.
Speaker 4: Like, yes, So the Monroe Institute was founded in nineteen
seventy one by Robert Monroe aka Bob, who had his
first out of body experience spontaneously at age forty three.
So it's not like he has always been doing it
and it was a sound engineer. So once it was
convinced that it was not going crazy, he started investigating
and how we could back science, back replicate whatever the
word is the brain frequency of people to take them
into those deep states. And that's what he did with hemisynk.
He worked with different binural beats and he layered them
and indeed the government got involved and they helped train
their remote viewers through that program. And many people know
the name, for example, Joel mcmonagall, who is still associated
with the Monroe Institute teaching remote viewing.
Speaker 2: There have you ever done remote viewing? I was just
I was looking at your resume and you know, like
you're on your site, there's so much you know what
I mean. And I printed it out too so I
could refer to it if I had to. But yeah,
so that's why I was like, you know, there's so
much there. So so you know, it sounded like there
was like a culmination of things that pushed you into
moving from traditional psychology into more spiritual realms or or bridging,
bridging the two absolutely, and then you know, how did
what was the process like of like opening up and
you started to touch on it, But was there anything
else about the process of kind of developing that skill
set and developing those abilities? And you know, I know
you you work at the neuro Institute and maybe other
places or are the other people, but like how did
you go about kind of developing that and and kind
of embracing it and going from from you know, doctor
Yaffi to to all these other things that you're doing
because you know, I know people that are mediums, but
like the you're into a lot of things, like you
do a lot of it, like you said, like energy work,
you know, hypnosis, you know everything. So like and I'm
sure it's just like it sounded like you just had
like a mind kind of like expansion and all of
this just started coming in or finding you. Like what
was that process like like in like how long did
you did you take like developing that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would say it took me about two
years of daily meditation. And I'm talking meditating an hour
day every single day. And that really clicked in for
me when I discovered Monroe's sound technology. Even before I
went to the Monroe Institute, I would meditate with their
audio tracks and I meditated an hour day every day
for two years before I could actually detect and feel
the differences in me and I could really feel my
intuition opening, and you know, the At first, it's all
kind of little knowings, just knowing this, knowing that. And
then I started playing with decks of cards. We're talking
like oracle decks and tarot decks, and first just for myself,
then for family and friends, and eventually professionally, so it
kind of slowly built up. And at the same time,
I also started repracticing, going back to doing energy work,
so I became better at trusting the energy and being
in the flow with that. Still not really feeling the
energy that came later with my channeling training, but I
learned to trust it so even when I did energy work. Still,
when I do energy work, you know, the body moved
or it wants to move, and I learned how to
really trust it and just be one hundred percent present
without questioning it. And as I said, I started doing
reading professionally, which opened me up even more, and I
kept on going back to the Monroe Institute. I just
got back from there just a few days ago. There
wasn't a one time thing. I've been going regularly, so
learning even greater discernment of different states of consciousness and
different altered states and different depth. So all of that
has been building up and building up, and then approximately
five years ago, during the COVID shutdown, I signed up
to do a long form channeling training. And I've done
some channeling before, so I wasn't completely new to it.
But I didn't really like it because as a professional,
it didn't seem reliable enough for me. I couldn't trust
it completely, so I just felt like, hmmm, not enough
for my left brain to really like. I just wasn't
comfortable with that, definitely not offering it professionally, so I
put it aside until the channeling training and the teacher,
Lisa Royalholt the same thing as my awakening in twenty twelve.
In twenty twenty or maybe even twenty nineteen, her name
just popped from different directions out of nowhere. And before
that I would get the message from my guides for
months it's time for a teacher. It's time for a teacher,
and I'm like, how am I going to find a teacher?
And all of a sudden, of course, she just popped
out of nowhere. So I and then COVID shutdown happens,
which means there's so much free time. I could really
dedicate my days into the practice. And it was months
and months and months of really extensive practice, breath work
to build up my energy, and exercises to become more
discerning of the energy, and body work to build up
my physical energy. There were so many different parts to
the training and the practice, and I really dove in
and really dedicated myself, and Hathor was one of the
first guides that came through. However, at the time when
I was new and it was in the framework of
practicing plagued with it, I was calling many, many, many
different sources to channel. I was channeling the Moon and
different Earth elements and different galactic races and different collectives
and anything you can imagine. Anything that could be channeled
and was of high vibration that I was interested in,
I would call through to channel. And like I said,
Hathor was one of the first that came to me.
I didn't know the name Hathor. I had no idea
what I was getting myself into.
Speaker 2: Egyptian deity, correct, that's right, So we know the name
Hathor from ancient Egypt.
Speaker 4: But one of the first first messages they had coming
through me. So first of all, they refer to themselves
as implural. They always speak as day and we, not they,
but we when they speak. And also they said Hawthor
is just one name that we were given by civilization.
In reality, other civilizations called us venus or for diety,
and not a civilization called us kwan Yin. So the
idea is, are this essence of the divine feminine that
is as broad as divine feminine and as specific as
individual gods which are really people advance beings that can
manifest physically and interact with humans, so that we're talking
about a very broad spectrum from completely obstruct and told
only consciousness based to as physical as densely physical as
we can interact with. That has been called many names
and has been given different identities over the eras and
over different civilizations, but have always been interacting with humanity
and especially at critical times of accelerated changes, just like
we're going through right now as humanity and as a planet,
which is why they're here.
Speaker 2: Again, there's a lot to unpack there.
Speaker 4: Welcome to my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you you mentioned, you know, with channeling that
you brought up you were channeling you know a multitude
of different Uh, I don't know, would you say entities?
I don't know what the correct word.
Speaker 4: Would be, Yeah, entities, essences, intelligences, There's so many words
we could use. Yes, what.
Speaker 2: Now? I got like thirty questions. I'm trying to figure
out which one ask first. You know, when you when
you're channeling these different essences or entities, like, dude, are
they how are you finding out? Like who's coming through?
Speaker 4: They?
Speaker 2: Are they? They're obviously are they introducing themselves and saying
who they are and where they're from or or or
what they are.
Speaker 4: So there are two parts to it. One is who
am I inviting? Who am I calling? In? And two, yes,
they do introduce themselves. And the reason both are necessary
is because who I'm calling is an opening, but it
does give them some flexibility to maneuver. So I could
be calling Hathor but maybe isis is squeezing? Which is
I think is related to Hathor maybe even a part
of the Hathors, But that's a different story altogether. So
there's some maneuverability there. And also if I have channeled
an entity regularly, so I'm really comfortable with them. They
may come through as a surprise. So there's who I'm calling,
And there's also some flexibility for them to maneuver and
squeeze in someone a little different if they want to,
or an additional energy if they want to. All as
long as they know I'm comfortable with it.
Speaker 2: Sure, so they just pop in just a drop by.
Speaker 4: Oh it happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, So you know, the other mediums I've talked to
are dealing directly more with like have dealt more with
like human spirits of like people that are passed or
you know that are around somebody that you know have
a message to pass on. These kind of essences that
are coming through to you sound like they have more broader,
bigger messages and bigger implications. So like what did you start?
Like obviously when you first start, you don't know you
haven't had experience with any of these entities before, So
like how do you know who to invite? Or do
you just do you put out a specific like hey,
give me some you know, I'm looking for someone high
vibration because I'm assuming too that in this world, like
you're dealing with higher vibration entities. But there's also lower,
and you know, obviously there's a risk of some of
that coming through, So like, how do you set parameters
if you don't if you're just doing a general one,
Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So, first of all, the training is a part of it. Right,
you make sure that you're really really clear, that you're
really in a good place, you're grounded, you're open. So
you really want to make sure that you really do
your homework before you open to channel. Yeah, it does
take a lot of work, but also, oh yes, I
would call entities so it can be very specific. Right,
I'm calling Hathor once I put myself in this open
first rounded, and then open, so I can call someone
really specific, like archangel Michael or hathor Or. And we
did that a lot at the beginning. I'm like, oh,
we're really curious about Plaadians. And then I'm like, so
I first put myself in the highest frequency possible, and
then I'm like, what friendly playadiens can communicate with us?
And then whoever is available within that spectrum comes through.
And that I did a lot at the beginning, a
lot the first year, maybe even two years. It was
like an exciting revolving door of Playadians, the Zeta Xerictorians, Hathor,
we owe, the fairy Earth elements like whoever I could channel,
I fall through and it was this like party of
different entities. But now really I work with the same sources,
and especially Hathor is a very very good conductor, so
she will say she will blend different energies into the
transmission as needed, either to provide specific information that people
are interested in or just to introduce different energies. So
I have the same group we meet every Sunday and
night channel and they're the ones asking the questions. And
that's also the messages in the books are often from
my group, so there are live channelings that are then
transcribed and usually in my group, I would call Hathor
now and she will say, well, they're also, let's say Orectorians.
So this year twenty twenty five, one of the new
things that on a regular basis, Arctorian energy has been
a part of the transmission, and not specific names of
specific Arctorian beings, but just that general essence, our general
energy has been brought into the transmissions. And the way
they explained it is that the divine feminine it's time
to bring some structure, some balanced masculinity into the picture
to have further balance. And one of the way to
do that is the structure of the Arcturians that have
light codes, which are structure in geometry. It can get
really esoteric, but the idea is that I'm still channeling Hathor,
but some other accompanying energies are also present, and Hathors
they're the one doing everything. I don't need to worry
about that. And sometimes I'll say, oh, there are other
groups available in the background in case you want to
ask them questions.
Speaker 2: So this is a general question, you know, and this
is you know, like a personal like you know, or
you can answer it in the general. But now you
mentioned Hathor, who's in Egyptian deity. You mentioned archangel Michael,
you mentioned fairies, you mentioned Palladians and Octurians and and
things that are not like would be extraterrestrial or in nature.
How has this shaped your views on like, for lack
of a better word, like theology or religion. Because this
is your You're talking to a lot of things that
you know, some people you know, they might be all
on board, like, oh, I'm into archangel Michael or you know,
but like they wouldn't. They'd be like, what the hell
is a Palladian? You know? Or whatever? You know what
I mean? But you know what I mean? Like, so,
like there's a lot out there that you that you're
communicating with, and do you get a sense that that
this is all I don't know, for a lack of
a better word, from some kind of these things all
exist and some I don't even know how to ask this,
Like like obviously everyone, you know, people have religions, but
there's a lot that is transcending a specific religion here,
and like how do you how do you make sense
of that? You know what I mean? Or you know?
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think a part of the purpose
of this journey is to expand our mind, expand our understanding,
and expands our heart. So when I started channeling, as
I mentioned that one of the first was Hawthor and
another first the first first first was Yesua Jesus. And
let me tell you that the Jewish girl that grew
up in Israel I had no concept of Jesus or
of Hathor. So the two energies that came to me
first and kind of established that channeling channel for lack
of better words, were too that I was not familiar
with at all. I kind of didn't have a grasp
of what they are and what they mean, like their nature,
their identity. So I think from the beginning it's been
about expanding my mind and not doing anything that I
was familiar with or comfortable with. So after those too,
I also had Saint Germain, which of course I didn't
know who it was when I was when I was
sold it was channel Saint Germaine. I was like, okay,
but just you know, I do not know who it is.
But after that, and you can read that in my
first book, Conversations with the Earth, that documents that crazy
revolving door I've been talking about. So the first chapter
is fire consciousness, then water, then wind. If you ask
me before that, can you channel fire consciousness? Can fire speak?
I will probably tell you a little crazy. So it's
from the beginning they made sure, whoever they are, or
my higher self made sure that it's not really religious.
So even though we're talking about Jesus and we're talking
about Saint Germaine, it wasn't from a religious context. And
second of all, that it's mind expanding that it's outside
my paradigm, outside what I thought was even possible, and
at that point, outside of even my scope of imagination,
and I think it was intentional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, do you get a sense that there's like
a singular like source and that these are representatives of
like some kind of singular type of energy and it's
all on a spectrum or like a wavelength or or frequency,
you know, I know frequency is an important thing.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's a really interesting question. So in some cases,
I think there's some associations that are more similar in vibrations.
So for example, I could feel the difference between zeta's
different zeta groups, two different Pleaadian groups, to different Arcturian groups.
So it's there's some threads of energy that have a
certain texture that it's a little different. On the other hand,
when I talk about Hawthor, she brings forth isis and
thought and other energies that do not feel as differentiated
to me. So it's almost like there's an umbrella and
over arching umbrella, but there's also identities within that umbrella.
And if we're talking about the biggest, biggest oneness of all,
then we're all one energy being projected in different ways
that we can experience different things. So of course it
depends on what level you're talking about, but in terms
of what I can discern and I can detect different
I don't know if races different galactic threads do have
different textures. And when I'm communicating with people who have
crossed over, for example, that's also a little bit of
a different texture than half over, for example. So there
are differences, and the differences are pretty subtle. It's almost
like describing it's a little difficult to describe in words.
It's almost like describing different flavors, you know, so how
do you dis grape flavor flavor and bubble gum and
strawberry flavor, and like it's easier to describe the difference
between sweet and savory, and even that's difficult in words.
So it's very similar how different energies and entities present
themselves or are experienced when.
Speaker 2: You when you talk to the you know, like the
actarians or any of the like et type of energies,
do you get a sense that it's like they're literally extraterrestrial,
like on different planets or is it more of like
an interdimensional type of situation.
Speaker 4: Different ones are different, So the first time I saw
the above, all the above, Yeah, absolutely. The first time
I called the Zetas, they told me their physical being
in the Earth atmosphere in a spaceship, and they're able
to communicate telepathically, so that's physical beings flying somewhere above.
On the other hand, when I channeled Arctorians, I felt no,
it was just energy. Even when I was trying to
get a visual of them. I don't know if trying
they were showing me a visual of them. I was
just seeing blue lights, but just that, like I was
no form, no physicality, So it really depends on the source.
Different sources have different level of density or come from
different dimensions, and some of them are completely physical and
even Hathor So when I first channeled, were like I said,
the divine feminine, very abstract, and then they introduced the
fact that they're also a collective from the serious Star system,
but still kind of abstract, non physical collective. And then
a couple of years ago they're like, surprise, we were
on the Earth in the physical once again. So now
we're talking about physical beings. But channeling the energy does
not feel different to me, which is very interesting. But
at first it was non physical beings, and now they're
actually on the planet in the physical and yet I'm
still channeling them, so they're still the same in telepathic
consciousness link. So I guess all of the above.
Speaker 2: Sure, did they say why they took physical form again,
or how they take physical form? Are they possessing someone?
Or like, how does that work? And that I'm you know,
I say things kind of ingest, but you know what,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So most people ask if they were incarnated,
if they were born, and they're not, so they're able
to densify their light body to manifest the physical body.
And we've even asked before, well what do you look
like when you manifest the body? Do you manifest like
whatever you want? Is it the way you used to
look when you were physical in the serious star system?
And they say that they manifest whatever is most appropriate,
and that it is related to the way they looked
in Serious But it's not like one O one, It's
not like if we looked in the mirror. It's exactly
the same. So appropriateness seems very relevant in terms of
the answers they give us. You know, I used to
always ask for the most accurate answers, and they corrected me,
and they're like, no, no, it's the most helpful answers.
And the reason for that distinction is what's accurate for
us changes as our understanding grows, and as our frequency raises,
it actually changes what's true and what's accurate for us.
Speaker 2: And so did any of these more et type groups.
None of them claimed you and now of them said
that was us. I was messing you with you when
you were a kid.
Speaker 4: No, no, they have not said that. And like I said,
and I've tried to remember things and talking to them
about it, and no, I'm not getting any information about that. However,
since they announced during the physical once again, and I
didn't fully answer your question as to why now, but
since they've fully come here in the physical, they have
appeared to me in the skies a form of a
golden light maneuvering in the sky, which is what I
saw when I was little. I remember it as a
white light, but it was a bright light in the
sky doing zig zags and fun stuff. So they're definitely
indication of some change with the physical presence, which also
indicates again if I take that that when I was
eight years old, and I had that sighting that it
was a physical presence, but beyond that, I'm not sure
now why Now, Yes, they've talked about that a lot, actually,
and that's why it's so exciting to me. They're here
to make physical contact and they're saying, this is what
we're building up to, and we yes, me with them,
but not only there are other groups and other individual
around the world that are going to have individual physical
contact with them, and that's going to build up our
readiness and energetically. What they're doing now is building us
up towards physical contact, and we need gradual exposure, not
only mentally to be able to grasp it, but physically
and energetically. We're not quite there yet, but we're getting
closer and closer every time, and their presence, their physical
presence here amplifies it and hinces our exposure to them
and prepares us even more for that physical open contact.
Speaker 2: Okay, And so is it is that why we're seeing
more with this disclosure stuff going on in the in
the mainstream news at this point? You know, it's like, uh,
it seems like it's kind of building a momentum, and uh,
I guess if I see you shaking affirmatively, like have
they kind of gave a timeline for this, and you know,
you know, it seems like they're probably doing it methodically.
Speaker 4: Very much so, and I think that timeline changed a
little bit. I was a little disappointed. I was hoping.
I'm like Chop Chop, I thought that by this point
I would have physical contact. I mean, I didn't give
any dates, they didn't give you any prediction that did
not happen. But I do feel like the timeline was
postponed a little bit. And they said there will be
steps along the way towards physical contact, so it's not
going to be just one event. So there are steps.
Like I said, one step was a couple of years ago.
When they started appearing in the sky. This past June,
they told me I was going to have a physical contact,
and they said at about six months in advance. Now
I thought physical contact with them. Apparently it was a
physical contact with the Faery, which is really cool and exciting.
But I'm really looking forward to meeting Hathor and the
people and her people and her peeps. So the timeline
is a little fluid, but we know that it's already happening.
The steps are already happening, and within two years they're
expecting all those groups that I mentioned before to actually
have physical contact. So we are talking in the next year,
the next two years of BIT increasing even more to
the level that it's really going to start being more
out in the open, not as discussions that we're seeing
now with the disclosure the whistleblowers, but as current interactions
that plural that many are having and documenting and sharing.
Speaker 2: And so are they taking their time because they know
that is it one of those things? And I'm not
trying to ask a leading question, but I just don't
know how to ask this. Is it the timeline changing
because the world just isn't ready yet? Is that part
of the deal or is it just going to be like, hey,
we're going to We're coming no matter what, and then
you guys are going to have to adapt and change
things up and have a massive readjustment. You know.
Speaker 4: No, they're being very gentle. I think there's always an
assessment of where we're at at any given moment, and
then they're meeting us there so and I think that's
why the timeline is always changing. You know, we still
have free will and there are all these things happening
with our individually and with the world in general, and
they're always matching where we're at. They're stretching us a
little bit at the time, but they're making sure that
they don't overload even our physical system. So I mentioned
that a part of this is actually energetically physiologically becoming ready.
So I had this experience last year in June, so
we're talking a little over a year ago that they
got closer and closer and closer. At the time, I
thought just closer to me. Now, I'm thinking closer to
inhibiting me more. And I felt like there was this
electric surge growing in my body and growing and growing,
and at some point I thought my chest was growing explode,
and I kind of freaked out. I jumped and it
went away, and then of course I was kicking myself.
I'm like, what if I don't come back? Come back?
But they took it as far as my body could handle,
and it was my job to know where my body
couldn't handle it anymore. So they can back off because
the idea is not to fry my system, not to
you know, damage me, because I would have been seriously
damaged my physical body. So they're always stretching us a
little more and always assessing where we're at, and again
individually but also as a society, as a planet, and
they have to meet us where we're at. It cannot be.
This is the timeline. No matter what happens, we're showing
up because then we would be hurt and that cannot happen.
Of course, they want the best for us. They're here
as guides, as teachers, as family and friends, and so
they're going to do everything that they can to stretch
us a little bit at the time in a way
that they're helping rather than hurting our progress.
Speaker 2: Okay, just a question, just because it's a personal interest.
In mind, you ever come across any in Unaki when
you're when you're out there and talking to people amongst
the universe.
Speaker 4: No, I still don't know if a Munaki is a race, yeah,
or it's a generic term for different races that interacted
with the people back then. So I don't know if
a Nunaki may be Syrians or Pleadians or some other
things that we know or don't know. But no, specifically
a Nunaki, I've never never came through a ya yel
came through but not a nunaki.
Speaker 2: Now, do these different entities that you're speaking with, like,
do they have like different personalities? And it's like there's
some that are more cool or some that are just jerks,
So like whatever, you know what I mean, You ever
get like you ever get a shithead come through that
You're like, dude, come on, I can't talk to you.
Speaker 4: So I never had jerks. I don't think that would
be acceptable.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, because you're trying to get high vibration, right,
so even if someone high vibration, they could still be
a jerk, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean. No, but they do have personality. So
for example, when I channeled the zetas, they felt almost
robotic to me, but in a way they felt really
comfortable for me, Like it was really predictable, not predictable,
like I didn't know the answers that were going to
come through, but the energy was predictable. It was very structured,
so it were very comfortable for me. Maybe even back
then my left brain was a little more dominant, but
it was very structured, organized, measured energy. I channeled Yogananda once.
I don't know if you're familiar with Yogananda autobiography, over Yogi. Okay, yeah,
so he was like so forceful and so sharp that
was very intimidated. I did not want to channel him again,
and I'm like, I cannot do you justice. This is
too it was like oh yeah, like even the voice,
it was so forceful. I'm like, well, you know, after
my my nurturing soft hathor, there was a lot to handle.
So in Viola the fairy, she's so bubbly and she
has a sense of humor. She even talks really fast.
So they definitely have different personalities. They feel different, they
sound different, and they have different levels of energy. So,
like I said, the Zetas were very measured, Viola was
kind of like a firecracker. So yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now the have they dropped any like heavy or like
hard truths or facts on you, like hey, this is
why we're here, or this is why we're coming, or
this is this is where you come from, or this
is you know, this is where people this is where
humanity came from, or this is where it's going, you
know what I mean? Any big things are they just
kind of giving you a little little nudges along the way.
Speaker 4: Well, they're both, I guess because even the little nudges
are pretty big and profound, and there are different things.
So for example, for a few years, there were a
lot of predictions about fires, about floods that all have
come to pass. But those are like pretty big, you know,
physical reality in your face. So there were a lot
of those, and yes, there was this all different kind
of understandings. For example, one time they said that our Earth,
with all these changes, it's like Earth is going through
puberty right now. And we think of purity as chaos
right all uncontrollable emotions and insecurities, And they're saying, yes,
there's chaos in this organization, but the driving force of
puberty is mature, is growing up, and that's what's happening
to the Earth and humanity right now. We're mature and
we're growing up. And they definitely mentioned their origins from
serious and that they have been involved with the creation
of humans. They mentioned five races and they mentioned seven races,
so they're definitely specific information that they have given that
can be quite jarring, I guess, or sometimes difficult to
accept depending on the person. But all kind of big truths,
So it depends exactly what you're asking.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's interesting Now I'm not asking this from
a challenging question. I'm asking this as more of a
to get your perspective on it. You know, I've seen
interviews with religious people that might you know that might
be more Christian religious people that are involve in some
way or another with a parapsychology, a paranormal and they
are Their understanding is that these spirit guides or entities
that people are in contact with when they engage in
mediumship and things like that could are actually demonic and
they're just manifesting as something else to you know, as
as a deception. Like what's your take on that? And
like as someone that's experienced this and talked with these
these entities, you know, like like what would you say
to someone that you know that has that point of
view on things?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are two things. There are separate, but I
guess everything overlaps. So one I would generally generally encourage people,
and I do encourage people, and they constantly encourage people
to be aware if they're coming out of fear or
out of discernment, and there's very there's a very big
difference and a lot of these everything is a demon
anything that's that's not I don't know anything that's paranormal,
is demonic. Is obviously a fear conversation. It offers no discernment,
it offers no observation or paying attention. Is just generalized fear.
So as a person, you want to stay away from
that as much as possible, even for your own wellbeing.
You're going to not grow very much as an individual
if you stay in that fear perception. So that's one thing.
The other thing that I have to say to that
is that I've been working with those guides. I'm sure
we've been working since I was born and before I
was born, but in this current conscious awareness and this
current path, I've been working with these guys for about
five years, and I've only received messages of love, compassion, expansion,
learning to trust myself, learning to be even more anchored
in my heart, art, and to share messages of love
and encouragement with others. The way people receive the energy
is to make it always to make them feel better
about themselves, having a bigger understanding of where they're at
with their lives. So we're talking about very constructive messages
and again really really strong anchoring in love, and that's
so significant and you can say, what if they're tricking you, Well,
why would the devil or demons would be tricking us
to enhance our connection, to enhance our discernment, rather than
being more dependent. It's all about learning to listen to
our own inner wisdom and inner voice and connect with ourselves.
It's not about being dependent on them. So I don't
see how that can be demonic I'm not trying to
convince anyone because if they're open enough, they can experience
it themselves. And if they're completely closed off to the idea,
there's nothing I can say that would convince them. So
it's a personal journey, it's a personal path, and it's
personal growth that we each have to do. And I
was very lucky that I was born with very little fear.
It just a part of my makeup. I'm very very lucky,
but you know I was. I wouldn't say I was
born with it. I was taught to have a lot
of doubt, and that is something that I had to overcome.
And you can equate fear in doubt. It's pretty much
the same thing. It prevents you from trusting, it prevents
you from opening up and experiencing. So that was my
journey to learn to deal with that issue of trust
and how do you trust? How do you open? How
do you trust your own discernment rather than a message
that somebody gives you, Because it's really what it is about.
Even when you hear messages from guides, even if somebody
is saying they're channeling source directly, each person has to
feel within themselves. Does it resonate, does it feel like truth?
Does it make you feel more expensive? Or does it
make you shut down? So you really are being called
and today more than ever, to exercise that muscle of
inner discernment rather than depend on anything you're hearing from anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you get a sense that you know, like
and it's great that you know, given what you just said,
like your experiences with everything has been you know, coming
from that perspective, are there like darker things at play
that we need to be aware of, like you know
what I mean, or worried about or like cause it
I mean it feels like I and maybe because it's
just the world is such chaos right now and every
day it's like there seems like there's some struggle or
some kind of light versus dark, like not to put
it in basic terms. But I mean, that's what it
seems like. It seems like there's some kind of struggle
going on right now, or like or a power play
like where you know, whether it's high vibration a low vibration,
that there's like a struggle for control of what's going
on in the world. You know, is it.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. There's nothing that we need to
know or need to worry about, because if anything is there,
it's out in the open and it's surfacing. And that
is why we're seeing one of the reasons we're seeing
more chaos around us. And they warn't us, They warn't me,
and they weren't my people about it, And they said, listen,
anything that's corrupt, anything that's broken, and in your personal life,
any wound that you have, is going to come after
the surface. And it's all a part of this time
of awakening. It's all a part of transitioning into a
higher frequency. Nothing can stay hidden anymore. So they warned us,
and they prepared us as much as possible. Of course,
hearing about it and experiencing it is very different. So
even despite all the preparation, when it happens, it's shocking,
but The idea is that we don't need to dig
to look for darkness. It's broadcasted to us, forced upon
us NonStop. So there's nothing that we need to dig up,
nothing that we need to worry about. What we need
to worry about, and not not really worry about, but
to concern ourselves with, is to keep our frequency high,
to keep our own resilience, our own integrity high, so
we're not being pulled down by everything that is shown
to us all the time. And as much as there
is chaos in the world, it's not nearly as bad
as what is being shown to us because we're not
seeing the full spectrum of humanity at this time. We're
constantly being shoved into our throat the worst of the
worst of the worst. So that's something that we have
to remember. This is not the true depiction of where
humanity is this time. There's a lot of connection, there's
a lot of love, there's a lot of unity, community, there's,
like said disclosure, we're talking about things that were not
in the mainstream ten years ago, twenty years ago, now
they are. So there's a lot of beautiful things happening.
Just the news are is not talking about them.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I feel like the mainstream media is literally on
a like a or whatever governments or whoever's behind it.
There's like a rule by fear thing going on right
now where it's just like literally just keeping constant fear
and panic in everyone's world if you're watching the news
or on social media. But then you go in the
world and everything's all right, you know what I mean
for the most part. I mean, you might not have
as much money as you did a few years ago whatever,
but by and large, like when you go out in
the woods or something, everything seems cool still, like you know, exactly.
Speaker 4: And exactly, and it's out that there are no people suffering.
It's not like there are no wars. But that's not new, No,
It's always about the history of humanity. Whether you're looking
hundreds years or thousands of years back, there was there
were conflicts, there was poverty. This is a part of
humanity journey into a more harmonious way of living, which
hopefully that's coming really soon in our lifetime. So we're
really privileged to see all these changes happening because I
think we actually are going to change things maybe for
the first time in who knows how long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with the even with technology, things have
changed so vastly in our time, you know, like I'm
you know, just I'm a kid of the seventies, So
it's like so much has changed, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And yes, we remember live before cell phones, before smartphones.
There was actually before the internet, before the computers, you know,
we were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's brings me another thing that I've
talked about in my last episode with a guy Todd
Cave AI. Does that seem like that there's a thought
that that is actually not an artificial intelligence, It's an
intelligence that's always been there but now always has the
opportunity to manifest through some kind of silicon quote unquote
body for lack of a better word. Is that something
you get a sense of or is it just literally
just programming? Or could it be both?
Speaker 4: I mean you no, I think yeah, it's both. I
think there is an intelligence that definitely predated our understanding
of AI. But I also think that so far we
are as humans consciously actively limiting AI's ability to be sentient,
and as a result, what we get is not the
full ability of that intelligence, but also a part of
our journey is to decide when we want to choose
the organic path and relay on our own intuition, our
own senses, even when it's more subtle. It takes more
work versus going to AI. So I know there's a
lot out there right now. There are people that are communicating.
They're saying they're communicating with their guides and galactic sources
through AI. And I'm not discounting anything, but I'm just saying,
once again, we really really have to be discerning. And
you know, AI is going to be a tool, a
beautiful tool, and it's going to be a part of
our growth. It would be, I think, silly to think
that it's not a part of our future. But what
kind of part, What roles are we going to give it?
What power are we going to give it? That's up
to us, and not only as a civilization, but each
person individually. I love my chad GPT. It's not that
I don't use it, but I use it with caution,
I use it with care. The same with social media.
I make sure that I don't spend too much time
on social media, the news. I stay completely away from it,
well almost almost completely away from it. Certain things that
I watch, but I don't live in that world. I
make sure one hundred percent that I don't live in
that world. And I think that's super important because we
can get pulled in so quickly, you know, it's so
easy to get pulled in, So we constantly have to
be with our hand on the pulse and keep that awareness.
Speaker 2: Do you feel and this is just you know, let's
put the conspiracy tinfoil hats on for a second. Do
you feel that this is a concentrated effort on part
of like whoever is kind of running the show here
in the in the earthly world, right, that they're trying
to distract us and keep us in this state of
fear so that we're not advancing or not kind of
getting those lessons or like becoming higher. You know, people
aren't raising their own vibrations because they're getting stuck in
this little state because they're always in fear. And it's like,
all right, I got to I'm a Democrat, so I
gotta so I gotta hate the Republicans, and I'm a Republican.
I gotta hate the Democrats. And yeah, we're fighting amongst
each other while these guys are doing this up here
and then this and that and get the banks doing
this and that, you know what I mean, Like, there's
a lot of distractions that can keep you anchored in lower, lower,
lower vibe world.
Speaker 4: You know, absolutely. So I don't even think the people
that are doing it think in that language. So I
think this is our language, like keeping our vibration low.
I don't think they're thinking that. But I do think
there's a lot of greed and there's a desire to
maintain control, absolutely, to maintain control and to maintain the
money and the control and the power into this small,
small group of people. So I definitely think it's intentional
and malicious to keep us down and to keep us
easily controlled and fearful. One of the easiest ways to
control people is with fear and without getting too political,
without talking about anything that's too controversial. We saw what
happened with COVID and how easy it was to control
people through fear. You know, if you leave your house
going to die. I mean that was literally said in
these words many, many, many times, which is outrageous, but
so many people either believed it or just subconsciously took
on the fear. Even people that didn't believe that version
had so much fear and so much anger towards the
other people. So we saw it happening in real time.
It was recent enough that I think anyone listening right
to this show has experienced it, And I think that's
a big lesson. It's a big, big lesson. What are
you going to allow authorities to tell you? And to
what level are you going to be not only controlled
with your behavior but with your mind and your way
of being. Because you can be at home and look
at the window and feel the connection to nature, or
you can be at home look at the window in
fear because there's viruses out there and if you're going
to go out, you're going to die. So you can
do the same thing but have a completely different experience
in different reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Just one last question here on like I
want to talk to you about your practice and the
work you do, but before we get into that, just
one last question on like these the big picture stuff
going through all this the last ten years or so,
you know, ten eleven years, what's been you know, the
most wildest like mind blowing or wildest or craziest experience
you've had or lesson you've been taught or like you know,
you you're in contact with worlds that a lot of
people aren't, right, So, you know, what's been the wildest
thing so far? And I'm sure there's going to be
more to come, but like in your experience so far,
like what's been like one of the most mind blowing
or wild things that's happened.
Speaker 4: Wow, let's say so. Physical contact is always super exciting.
So I mentioned the fairy sighting, which was a very
very bright bowl of light with actual geometric shapes wings inside,
and it was interest for my face and I didn't
feel any wind or anything even though it moved really fast,
and other people saw it too. And also I had
physical sighting of Spaceship with other people and lights in disguise,
So that part is super super exciting. But in terms
of information, I guess, like I mentioned, the fact that
they're here is really exciting to me. And also when
I channeled, so I channeled. One of the funny fun
exploration that we had is channeling the Zetas but specifically
that are involved with the hybridization program, and I channeled
the hybrid child and that was really wild. And those
are the ones I think those are the ones that
were in Spaceship in the atmosphere. I don't even remember
there were different groups. So that's really wild to think
that we actually have hybrid children, that maybe even I
have hybrid children. I have a suspicion I have two
of them, and like they were actually maybe going to
get to interact with them and meet other beings. I mean,
I don't think it gets crazier and more exciting than that.
The fact that physical contact is literally around the corner
and we're talking about really the next year or two.
I think that's super wild and super exciting.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people that you know, I've
talked to not a ton, but I've talked to a
few mediums, and you know, on the podcast and off
the podcast, and you know, they all have different experiences.
You being a clinical psychologist, do you feel that informs
like the other world, Like you know, when you're going
through this paranormal world, do you feel like having this
degree in clinical psychology kind of affects how you navigate
through that world or how you understand that world and
like and in what kind of ways? Maybe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it not only that, I think it
allows them the guide to use my understanding of human
behavior in human psyche and to use my experience with
humans and all my training. I think they're using that
to understand us, understand me, and also use that when
they use my vocabulary and my understanding to send messages.
I think they see that as a valuable part of
my life that can be used. Yeah, that can be used.
It to help us, for example, understand stortin concepts. It
gives them better way of verbal of explaining things because
it gives them more understanding how humans operate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great, so I and I'm trying to be cognizantive time,
but I just want to talk a little bit about
the stuff that you that you do in your your
you know, your daily life or your practice, like you know,
whether it's channeling or you said readings, uh, energy work, light.
Speaker 4: Work and hypnosis and counseling.
Speaker 2: I still counseling. Yeah, you even even down to like
nuts and bolts like hypnosis for like smoking cessation or
like behavioral modification.
Speaker 4: Or absolutely I work with athletes for pig performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great.
Speaker 4: I work with professional tennis players.
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you're with your past life or
your your your your hypnosis and regression. It's either can
be for like you know, more esoteric things like past
life analysis or even just like trauma work, like helping
people with trauma. Absolutely, so you have a whole array
of things that you're into.
Speaker 4: Like when you that's where you ask how how my
training and my background effects and that's how it comes
into play, right, So I can offer those spiritual exploration,
but if somebody encounters a real trauma, which I will
say does not really happen much anymore. It's kind of
the old age of hypnosis. But when something does come up,
I do have my psychology training and experience to handle it.
And even with readings, my readings are so it's almost
like a Kashi reading readings. I tap into your field
and I get information. But then you have my background
as a psychologist to help you make sense of things
and how do you apply it? And again, how does
it fit within your psychology? How to make it real
and practical and not some crazy esoteric knowledge.
Speaker 2: Sure, and you just mentioned with when you mentioned like
the working with like the cash acknowledge, like can you
explain that because I've that's a term I've come across
and I've read a little bit about and it just
seems like it's like this whole body of knowledge that
you can just tap into. But like, like what what
is that? And like how do you use that in
your in your work or just in life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so people you the words a Kashak record, I'm
going to speak about that Kashik field. So when I
do a reading, So let's say I give you a reading,
what I do is I tap into your field and
that opens a whole flow of information. So it as
soon as I tap into your field, it gives me
your background, it gives me what's relevant in your life
right now, it gives me the general direction you're in.
So they are all this information and some of it
is energetic and some of it is specific details about
you and in the context of your journey and your path.
So that what it really means tapping into your field,
and through that we can get information about your physical body,
we can get information about relationships you have in your life,
whatever you ask. And it's not like I'm a human,
so I can't know everything. But what opens is the potential.
And then depending on what you ask or what we
tune into that what brings even more information. Does that
make sense?
Speaker 2: Sure? Now? Is this something like I guess like you,
if you're walking around and you're just walking through the
store and people are going by, are you getting bombarded
with information all the time or is it something that
you like actively turn on and turn off.
Speaker 4: I do turn it on and turn it off. However,
there is leakage that is happening all the time, so
I don't walk the street and get bombarded. However, I'll
give you an example. Like I said, I just came
back from the Monroe Institute. Every time I went into
my booth to meditate, you go into your cobby in
the wall, your bed inside the wall, and you put
your headphones. Every time, I could hear other people's thoughts.
So my roommate and then other people are outing. So
as soon as I open up, it comes through. And
when I'm with people that I know really well and
we're really comfortable for a really long time. The leakage
happens all the time. My husband is used to it.
You know. We can be sitting watching TV and I'm like,
are you thinking about sandwiches? Are you hungry? It's like yes,
So things like that happen all the time, but I'm
not bombarded, especially when I do day to day life things.
Maybe that's why it's so important to be grounded just
in general, right, not to walk with my head in
the clouds because I really keep it closed, but also discernment. Right,
So sometimes if I feel something and it's not me,
I have to realize this is not my feeling, and
it doesn't mean necessarily to push it away. By the way,
sometimes just the awareness that is not mine will make
it go away, and sometimes it doesn't. And then I
take it on myself to hold the emotion without clinging
to it, without making up stories about it, and just
allowing and holding it. Because sometimes I learned that we
can actually process things for others and it's not a
bad thing. It's not like having an attachment for somebody
attacking us. It's literally helping by caring or processing certain
energies that other people have a hard time with.
Speaker 2: And I know you do. You know, obviously you do
some of this work in person, but you also, I know,
do like readings and channelings and stuff on on online
or through like zoom meetings and stuff. Does it Does
it work just online? Oh, it's all online. I didn't
know if you did, because you do, don't you do?
Some groups like, well, you got a trip to Egypt
or something right like coming up?
Speaker 4: Yes, Egypt.
Speaker 2: I saw that. I was like, damn, I want to
go on a hoty balloon in Egypt. I was like,
the uh, but but when So when you do this online,
you're able to even though someone's not physically in front
of you, you can still like, you know, do that
work with somebody on through like a zoom meeting. It
doesn't have any there's no like electronic interference or anything
like that.
Speaker 4: No, it's all consciousness. Day. So as soon as I
have my intention to connect to you, and it's only
when you allow me, I would never I have no
desire to connect to people. They're not coming to me
for that purpose. But as soon as I have that
intention to connect to you, that's what does it. And
I still need to open and I'm the one receiving
the information. So I know we're saying that I'm going
to your field and I'm tapping into your field, but
I'm experiencing it as coming into me or me tapping
into it, So for me, it's all here, right, So
it's all consciousness. So I don't need to go anywhere.
The computer is not in the way, because think about
it right now, I'm looking at you. That's a form
of strengthening the connection. But I can also talk to
you on the phone, and the reading is going to
be just as good. In fact, somebody can just tell me.
I can give you a little example. I don't want
to take too much time, but I did a favor
for somebody and connected to a person who was crossed over,
committed suicide, crossed over but was not fully crossed over
and was unhappy. And it's someone from the Philippines. So
although I was told the name, I did not remember
the name, so I didn't have the person's name nothing.
I knew it was a guy. That's literally the only information.
I just didn't know anything. But I had the intention
to connect to that specific person and that was enough.
And I was able to connect him, help him cross over,
and then the other people connected to him, and the
spirit told him, yes, I'm so happy. This woman came
over and took me up. How amazing is that? And
again I didn't have a name, I didn't have a photo,
I didn't have anything. I just said my intention and
that was enough to make the connection great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, just with the other mediums I
talked to you, they said, because some of those type
of spirits like you know of like earthly people that
have passed, like can know that you can see, they
try and take advantage of that so that that stuff
doesn't break through on you, Like you can shut all
that off like this, no one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened to be a couple of times that
I was I guess you can call it psychically attacked.
That's the way I experienced it because I have all
these emotions that weren't mine, and it was really really intense.
But as soon as I realized that it was not mine,
and in those two cases, that's all I needed to do.
I didn't need to block them. As soon as I
had the realization that were gone. So I think I
have a lot of protection around me, but I don't
engage in active protection. What I engage in is keeping
my frequency high and myself really really grounded, and I
feel like that's the best. And of course I have
an ongoing spiritual practice. I meditate every day, I communicate
to my guides, I channel them. But I see that
as my protection rather than working on separating me from others.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and does when you say guides like your guides,
Like this is I know there's a weird question, not
a weird question, but I know it's just like a
basic question. But for people that might be listening and
hearing all this type of stuff for the first time,
does everyone have guides?
Speaker 4: Like? Absolutely, everybody has guides. Everybody has a galactic family
or some other family in spirit. Everybody is surrounded by
layers of support and love and guidance. Even people that
are completely cut off and don't feel it at all
or think they don't feel it at all, It's all
around them all the time, not in an invasive way.
You know, they don't care about watching you in the shower.
It's really you can think of your guides as extension
of yourself. So yeah, that's I think the best way
to see them as extensions of yourself, of your higher self.
Speaker 2: And what do you say to people who want to
be I guess more in touch with those guides or
in tune or you know, receive the messages they need
to receive from those guides, Like what, like what can
people do for that type of stuff?
Speaker 4: Meditate? Meditate, meditate, meditate, Start meditating daily. If you think
you're not good at it start with ten twenty minutes
a day, use music that helps you or frequency tones
that help you, but really develop a daily meditation practice.
There's nothing that enhances connection more than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know you mentioned your book earlier, well, your
two books. I'm just trying to get some stuff in
here because i know we're a little over time. The book,
you know, with the conversations with Hathor, is that you
said that's transcriptions from some of your your sessions.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it starts all the way from my channeling
training when I was a trainee to when I was
channeling with friends to eventually professionally with my Sunday group
which we still meet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so do you record all those.
Speaker 4: Yes, all my channelings are recorded, and then you are
then there was a transcription from that.
Speaker 2: What were some of the some of the main kind
of things that I mean, we might have already touched
on that because we've talked about a lot today. What
were some of the main kind of things that came
about out of that, like some of the main themes
or lessons or key elements to the conversations, Like, what
were some of the key things?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they tend to keep it. I mean, they
talk about a lot about esoteric things and galactic things,
but they also tend to keep it really practical, and
I think maybe that's a part of who I am
also in my background in psychology. So they talk a
lot about the rise of the divine feminine in today's world,
and in practical means, what it means is people connecting
to their creative nature, people connecting to their inner trust,
people learning to go with the flow rather than plan
and control situations. People learning to move away from overthinking
and being mental about everything and to start feeling things
and living from the heart, listening to your body. So
messages like these have been the most frequent and most important,
in addition to what we touched on a little bit,
which is about keeping in the back of your head
that awareness that we are in these beautiful times of change,
and not to be bogged down but all the perceived
negativity around, but really focus on yourself, on your community,
your friends and family, and make sure that those connections
are solid. Make sure that in your own life you're
living the life that you want to create in the world.
Speaker 2: And I know you said you're going to be you're
actually training people now or you're going to get.
Speaker 4: Into Yes, yes, yes, I've had several cycles, so it's
not that new. I'm just all tiny break now because
life got really really busy and crazy. But yes, so
usually as soon as I'm done with one cycle, I
start another. So I teach light language and channeling, and
it's really a wonderful, wonderful class. It's very lighthearted, very fun,
and you learn how to be a clear channel and
how to hold that space, and you learn how to
express it with your voice, especially with light language, so
you don't have to think about what you're saying. You
can really just be and just feel, and it's a
beautiful class. I love those sessions. I love the space
that we're holding, and everybody always has a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: How long? How long is that? How long are those sessions?
Are those cycles?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So it's currently four classes of two hours each,
so you get live eight hours that when we do
different practices and exercise and I lead certain journeys. It
really includes a lot in it.
Speaker 2: Do you got to be experienced already or if someone
could just jump in and not know it's made.
Speaker 4: It's made for beginners. I've had people that have already
channeled light language, and they were still getting a lot
of out of it and enjoying it. But you can
be a complete beginner. And you know, light language is
also channeling, so it's really kind of a channeling one
O one core. So even I call it light language,
it's really teaching you how to be a channel and
your aspiration can become a verbal channeler. Or maybe you
want to use it for your art. Maybe you're an artist,
maybe you're a musician. Maybe I don't know, you like
guarding and you want to be able to inhabit it
and be in the flow more So, channeling can mean
a lot of different things for different people. But my
module teaches us through light language.
Speaker 2: Nice. Where can people get more information and you know,
whether it's about you, books or website or if they
want to get involved in training or classes and stuff
like that. Where can people find you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my website is Yuffi Channeling dot com. So my
first name Yuffie Yafi Channeling dot com and there you
can see my groups. It also links you to my
YouTube page. It has more than two hundred videos, so
there's a lot of info there. Of course, you can
contact me through the website. You can find my books
on my website and also on Amazon, Conversations with the
Earth and Conversations with Hathor. They're packed with fascinating information.
I definitely recommend people to read them or listen to
the audio. I never ate the audio, so it's another
way of really getting the energy and feeling it as
much as possible, and then let me know what you think.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll have that link in the show notes as well,
so if someone's driving and listening right now, they can
click on that later. They don't have to write it down.
They don't have to pull over and write it down
or swerve around in traffic.
Speaker 4: But try to remember the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I'll have it in there. I'm gonna
I appreciate you coming on today. This is great and
I'm glad someone I forgot the woman's name that connected us.
I'm glad she did. Yeah, Debbie, Yeah, thank you Debbie
for connecting us. This was a good one. I'm gonna
shut this off, but I'm not hanging up, so hold
on one second. And that wraps up another episode, another
wild one. We went into dimensional extraterrestrial theological. We went
everywhere on this one, and it was very very interesting,
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