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Speaker 2: Yes, once again, we have lyft Off. I want to

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thank you to tune in for tuning into this episode

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of The Big Truth Podcast, and I want to welcome

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my guest today, doctor Yaffiyier, who is has a multifaceted background.

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She's a clinical psychologist, a channel, multidimensional channel, a hypnotist,

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an author, and uh someone who uh I I find

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this very interesting your your background as someone that's a scientist,

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but also as someone who's you know, so deep into spiritual,

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the spiritual realm of things.

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Speaker 4: So, yes, the Age of Aquarius is here, you go.

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you know, the the the interplay between those two realms

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also be they can be mutually exclusive, or they can

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be uh you know, or they they can go off

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one of each other pretty well, play off each other.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So for our listeners that might not be familiar with you,

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why don't you give a little bit of you know,

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give us a little bit about your background and how

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you even got into all this stuff, like both both

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the psychology and also the spiritual elements of things.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely so, I was. I did. As you mentioned,

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I'm a clinical psychologist. That means I went through a

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way of thinking. Uh. And while that was happening, I

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it's been with me since I was a little girl,

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since I can ever remember. And in twenty twelve, I

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so we're talking two years before I graduated, I had

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this major spiritual awakening. First, it started as just an interest.

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I started I discovered the Seth material, which was absolutely

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mind expanding and incredible, and I, let's see what else

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happened in my life. I discovered hypnosis, So that was

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a beautiful way for me to bring my new interests

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of spirituality into the clinical field that I was practicing

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as a psychologist, doing therapy and testing really mainstream stuff

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until I discovered hypnosis, which totally sparked my fascination and

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I started going. Oh and then in twenty twelve, my mom,

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who was my absolute best friend, transitioned, and it happened

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very quickly. She went from a healthy sixty three year

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old woman to diagnose with cancer without even knowing which

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kind of cancer. Within two months she was gone. So

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it happened very very quickly. It was a big shock,

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but also a huge push to delve even deeply, more

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deeply into the spiritual journey, into experiencing things for myself.

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My desire to know what's beyond and to believe in

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spiritual reality not just as an interesting idea, but as

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a reality, as a practice, as an experience. That really

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became very real when my mom transitioned and I started

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going to the Monroe Institute about a year before that

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I started meditating daily, So it really all kind of

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happened together from different directions, and spirituality became my life

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purpose and my journey. And that's when I realized that I, no,

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I cannot be a mainstream psychologist. So I graduated in

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twenty fourteen, and I had to make a decision. Until then,

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mainstream as it gets, and now it was time to

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work for myself. I wanted to work for myself and

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I wanted to do my own thing, and that I

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realized could not be. I could not really fulfill my

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passion by remaining a mainstream psychologist. I had to take

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it in a different direction. I had to take it beyond.

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I had to go deeper than what the field allowed,

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maybe still allows, but it was definitely even more strict

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your doctorate program, you know, was your what? What? What

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of that, like what was your area of specialization? And

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did did spirituality creep into that at all? Or was

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it just like until after you graduated and after you

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graduate school and anthropology and you.

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Speaker 4: Know, anthropology was my minor. I love anthropology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know the environment of like some of

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these institutions, and I can't imagine that there would be

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were trying to integrate parapsychology or anything like that into

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a regular program, there might have been a little bit

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of resistance there for lack of you know, to put.

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Speaker 4: It mildly, you know, yes, definitely putting it mildly. There

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was a lot of resistance even just to integrate mainstream

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psychology and we're not even talking spiritual psychology. Even psychology.

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Even integrating that into the regular practice, you had to

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find specialized supervisors that were comfortable with that, and it

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wasn't easy. There would be like one in the whole program.

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an accepted science accepted therapy. So absolutely, and when you

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talk about past life regression or spiritual exploration, We were

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specifically directed by the American Psychological Association because my first

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training in hypnosis was through the clinical field. So we

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were trained that if people come to us and ask

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about past life regression, we should answer there is no

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such thing. And that was not okay with me. That

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was the main thing I wanted to do at the time.

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Then I discovered Michael Newton with Life Between Lives, and

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then I was trained with the lower skin in doing QHHD.

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So my hypnosis practice became more and more spiritual and

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more and more expensive. And even before discovering the Lower Skin,

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and I was already on that path of developing my

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those gifts, those abilities that I decided to put aside,

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but I was born with them. So when I really

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those gifts, they really opened. And so hypnosis was the

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way of integrating it into my practice. But I also

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before I even got into psychology, but it's like I

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completely forgot it. It was a different compartment in my head.

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one more spiritual. But hypnosis was the gateway in terms

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of putting a crap in that clinical field, allowing some

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spirituality to come into that and some open and flexibility

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and supervisor, tends to be really really rigid and not

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very accepting of anything outside of the box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So so the hypnosis was the bridge for you.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, hypnosis and personally meditation.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Now, going back to when you were a child,

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a little girl, like when did you first know that

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you had you know, psychic abilities or gifts or you know,

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you know when when did when did that kind of

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come about? And like what was it like were you

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were you seeing spirits or you know, like how to

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go because I've had a couple of mediums on before,

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and it's there's there's there's a lot of cross threading,

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but there's also a lot of differences. So it's it's

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always interesting to see how, you know, your origin story,

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like how you how you found these out about these

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abilities and and uh, you know, you know how that

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was especially like growing up, like because a lot of

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people like I had to kind of shut it out

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because it was you know, trying to go to school

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in high school and I'm seeing spirits or something.

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Speaker 4: And in high school. Yeah, for me, it wasn't even

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high school. My parents weren't accepting of it. My mom

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told me to stop with my nonsense, so I had

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to put it aside pretty quickly. So I didn't see spirits.

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think I experienced things that I don't remember, and I

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think it's intentional. Sometimes were blocked from remembering, and I

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may have had et experiences and visitations that I do

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not remember. But what I do remember, and I'm talking

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since I was really really young, we're trobly like this

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three year old, four year old playing with energy with

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my hands, sending energy for my hands, trying to affect

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the stream of water from the faucet. So I kept

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on trying to manipulate reality through energy. I used the

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word hypnotizing people, but it was really sending friends energy

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from my hands to their heads and saying stuff. And

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it's funny that I used the word HYPNOTI I didn't

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know what it meant. It was very little and what

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else I was trying to levitate? So I was getting

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the kids in the neighborhood to basically meditate with me.

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and to focus and to try to lift up. And

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Speaker 2: Did you ever succeed in the levitation?

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Speaker 4: No, not not livitation. I couldn't affect material, physical material

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with my hands with my energy. And it was almost

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frustrating for me as a child because for some reason

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I had that sense that it was possible, and I

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didn't know why it wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the drive to do it, but you

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couldn't figure out how to how to how to make

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it go.

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Speaker 4: And since then I've heard from other people. From two

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other people I heard that that have since then had

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remembrance of being abducted as children, and abducted is really

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an antiquated term. But being taken on board ships and

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being trained to manipulate energy and to do different games

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that has to do with paranormal abilities in esp and

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everything that I did as a child seems very consistent

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with the training that is typically done with children on

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board ships. And when I was eight years old, I

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did see a spaceship. It was daylight sighting and it

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was basically leaving it zigzagged in the sky and then

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it took off. And back then it was my only memory,

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so I thought it was my first experience. Now looking back,

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and I had this realization relatively recently, I think actually

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that was a goodbye. I think that's when I was

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old enough to maybe, I don't know, start remembering. I

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don't know what's the reason. I can make up reasons,

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but I think that was when they left and that

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was a goodbye, but leaving me with this validation that

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magical things and extraordinary things are real. So living this

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drop of knowing, drop of validation and then disappearing for

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my life.

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Speaker 2: Sure, now the just you know, I'm not trying to

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skip in a fast forward here, but you had mentioned

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that you know that there was possible et uh you're

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you know, taken by ET's or UFOs and but you

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don't fully remember, but you do pass life aggressive. Have

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you ever undergone past life regression to yourself to try

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and recall any of this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've done as a participant QHHT session, which

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is the lowest cannon system, and I've also done several

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passive regressions, and I've had many experiences through the Monroe

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Institute or even meditating it. So I had all kinds

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of experiences with memories of past life, of different existences,

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but never of I was never able to remember anything

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from my childhood in terms of interacting with ET's and

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I've tried. Oh, I have tried, so as far as

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I know, I haven't had any experiences. But I have

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so many indications, even a mark in the back of

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my neck that used to trigger the airport scanner for

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years until I actually considered removing it and then it disappeared.

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of interactions, but nothing that I could bring to you

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a memory Oh one day, I hope sure.

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Speaker 2: Now do you think do you think it's you just

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haven't you know, got down the pathway of remembering that,

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or do you think there's like a purposeful block on that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think there's there has to be a purposeful block.

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Will it will be removed. I'm usually being told by

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other people, not by my guides, that had similar experiences,

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that at some point it's usually removed and we can remember.

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But you know, for me, this is all hypothesis. I

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don't know. I know I've had that sighting an eight

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year old Since then, I've had many sidings in recent years,

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but as I said, not beings, not face to face

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with beings, which is of course what I want the most,

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not only to remember in the past, but that's what

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I'm looking forward in terms of the future. As this

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is jumping way ahead, but this is I believe and

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what I've been told that is for my guides from

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Hathor is where we're headed. So that's something I'm really

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really looking forward to, and I'm seeing it as a

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maybe even the most exciting and fascinating aspect of my

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journey and my path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. And so you mentioned Monroe Institute. That's

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the same Monroe Institute that's been around for a long time, right,

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Like didn't wasn't there, Like government didn't it. The government

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did experiments and working there like the FIA or one

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of them.

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Speaker 4: Like, yes, So the Monroe Institute was founded in nineteen

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seventy one by Robert Monroe aka Bob, who had his

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first out of body experience spontaneously at age forty three.

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So it's not like he has always been doing it

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and it was a sound engineer. So once it was

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convinced that it was not going crazy, he started investigating

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and how we could back science, back replicate whatever the

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word is the brain frequency of people to take them

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into those deep states. And that's what he did with hemisynk.

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He worked with different binural beats and he layered them

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and indeed the government got involved and they helped train

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their remote viewers through that program. And many people know

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the name, for example, Joel mcmonagall, who is still associated

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with the Monroe Institute teaching remote viewing.

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Speaker 2: There have you ever done remote viewing? I was just

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I was looking at your resume and you know, like

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you're on your site, there's so much you know what

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I mean. And I printed it out too so I

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could refer to it if I had to. But yeah,

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so that's why I was like, you know, there's so

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much there. So so you know, it sounded like there

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was like a culmination of things that pushed you into

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moving from traditional psychology into more spiritual realms or or bridging,

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bridging the two absolutely, and then you know, how did

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what was the process like of like opening up and

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you started to touch on it, But was there anything

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else about the process of kind of developing that skill

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set and developing those abilities? And you know, I know

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you you work at the neuro Institute and maybe other

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places or are the other people, but like how did

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you go about kind of developing that and and kind

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of embracing it and going from from you know, doctor

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Yaffi to to all these other things that you're doing

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because you know, I know people that are mediums, but

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like the you're into a lot of things, like you

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do a lot of it, like you said, like energy work,

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you know, hypnosis, you know everything. So like and I'm

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sure it's just like it sounded like you just had

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like a mind kind of like expansion and all of

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this just started coming in or finding you. Like what

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was that process like like in like how long did

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you did you take like developing that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would say it took me about two

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years of daily meditation. And I'm talking meditating an hour

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day every single day. And that really clicked in for

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me when I discovered Monroe's sound technology. Even before I

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went to the Monroe Institute, I would meditate with their

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audio tracks and I meditated an hour day every day

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for two years before I could actually detect and feel

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the differences in me and I could really feel my

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intuition opening, and you know, the At first, it's all

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kind of little knowings, just knowing this, knowing that. And

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then I started playing with decks of cards. We're talking

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like oracle decks and tarot decks, and first just for myself,

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then for family and friends, and eventually professionally, so it

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kind of slowly built up. And at the same time,

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I also started repracticing, going back to doing energy work,

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so I became better at trusting the energy and being

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in the flow with that. Still not really feeling the

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energy that came later with my channeling training, but I

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learned to trust it so even when I did energy work. Still,

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when I do energy work, you know, the body moved

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or it wants to move, and I learned how to

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really trust it and just be one hundred percent present

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without questioning it. And as I said, I started doing

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reading professionally, which opened me up even more, and I

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kept on going back to the Monroe Institute. I just

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got back from there just a few days ago. There

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wasn't a one time thing. I've been going regularly, so

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learning even greater discernment of different states of consciousness and

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different altered states and different depth. So all of that

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has been building up and building up, and then approximately

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five years ago, during the COVID shutdown, I signed up

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to do a long form channeling training. And I've done

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some channeling before, so I wasn't completely new to it.

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But I didn't really like it because as a professional,

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it didn't seem reliable enough for me. I couldn't trust

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it completely, so I just felt like, hmmm, not enough

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for my left brain to really like. I just wasn't

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comfortable with that, definitely not offering it professionally, so I

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put it aside until the channeling training and the teacher,

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Lisa Royalholt the same thing as my awakening in twenty twelve.

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In twenty twenty or maybe even twenty nineteen, her name

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just popped from different directions out of nowhere. And before

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that I would get the message from my guides for

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months it's time for a teacher. It's time for a teacher,

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and I'm like, how am I going to find a teacher?

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And all of a sudden, of course, she just popped

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out of nowhere. So I and then COVID shutdown happens,

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which means there's so much free time. I could really

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dedicate my days into the practice. And it was months

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and months and months of really extensive practice, breath work

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to build up my energy, and exercises to become more

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discerning of the energy, and body work to build up

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my physical energy. There were so many different parts to

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the training and the practice, and I really dove in

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and really dedicated myself, and Hathor was one of the

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first guides that came through. However, at the time when

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I was new and it was in the framework of

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practicing plagued with it, I was calling many, many, many

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different sources to channel. I was channeling the Moon and

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different Earth elements and different galactic races and different collectives

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and anything you can imagine. Anything that could be channeled

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and was of high vibration that I was interested in,

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I would call through to channel. And like I said,

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Hathor was one of the first that came to me.

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I didn't know the name Hathor. I had no idea

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what I was getting myself into.

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Speaker 2: Egyptian deity, correct, that's right, So we know the name

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Hathor from ancient Egypt.

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Speaker 4: But one of the first first messages they had coming

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through me. So first of all, they refer to themselves

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as implural. They always speak as day and we, not they,

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but we when they speak. And also they said Hawthor

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is just one name that we were given by civilization.

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In reality, other civilizations called us venus or for diety,

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00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:02,839
and not a civilization called us kwan Yin. So the

476
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,799
idea is, are this essence of the divine feminine that

477
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,039
is as broad as divine feminine and as specific as

478
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,960
individual gods which are really people advance beings that can

479
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,599
manifest physically and interact with humans, so that we're talking

480
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,759
about a very broad spectrum from completely obstruct and told

481
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:28,599
only consciousness based to as physical as densely physical as

482
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,119
we can interact with. That has been called many names

483
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,079
and has been given different identities over the eras and

484
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,240
over different civilizations, but have always been interacting with humanity

485
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:47,960
and especially at critical times of accelerated changes, just like

486
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,359
we're going through right now as humanity and as a planet,

487
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,319
which is why they're here.

488
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Again, there's a lot to unpack there.

489
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: Welcome to my life.

490
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you you mentioned, you know, with channeling that

491
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,279
you brought up you were channeling you know a multitude

492
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,599
of different Uh, I don't know, would you say entities?

493
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,440
I don't know what the correct word.

494
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:20,799
Speaker 4: Would be, Yeah, entities, essences, intelligences, There's so many words

495
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,519
we could use. Yes, what.

496
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Now? I got like thirty questions. I'm trying to figure

497
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,079
out which one ask first. You know, when you when

498
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:36,960
you're channeling these different essences or entities, like, dude, are

499
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920
they how are you finding out? Like who's coming through?

500
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,079
Speaker 4: They?

501
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,079
Speaker 2: Are they? They're obviously are they introducing themselves and saying

502
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,319
who they are and where they're from or or or

503
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:45,920
what they are.

504
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,039
Speaker 4: So there are two parts to it. One is who

505
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,720
am I inviting? Who am I calling? In? And two, yes,

506
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,720
they do introduce themselves. And the reason both are necessary

507
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,440
is because who I'm calling is an opening, but it

508
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,720
does give them some flexibility to maneuver. So I could

509
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:09,240
be calling Hathor but maybe isis is squeezing? Which is

510
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200
I think is related to Hathor maybe even a part

511
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,799
of the Hathors, But that's a different story altogether. So

512
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:20,720
there's some maneuverability there. And also if I have channeled

513
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:24,920
an entity regularly, so I'm really comfortable with them. They

514
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,599
may come through as a surprise. So there's who I'm calling,

515
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920
And there's also some flexibility for them to maneuver and

516
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,599
squeeze in someone a little different if they want to,

517
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:39,480
or an additional energy if they want to. All as

518
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,559
long as they know I'm comfortable with it.

519
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Sure, so they just pop in just a drop by.

520
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: Oh it happens.

521
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:50,759
Speaker 2: Yes, So you know, the other mediums I've talked to

522
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,759
are dealing directly more with like have dealt more with

523
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,200
like human spirits of like people that are passed or

524
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,440
you know that are around somebody that you know have

525
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,079
a message to pass on. These kind of essences that

526
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,960
are coming through to you sound like they have more broader,

527
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:10,440
bigger messages and bigger implications. So like what did you start?

528
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,279
Like obviously when you first start, you don't know you

529
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,799
haven't had experience with any of these entities before, So

530
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,440
like how do you know who to invite? Or do

531
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:22,880
you just do you put out a specific like hey,

532
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:24,880
give me some you know, I'm looking for someone high

533
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,519
vibration because I'm assuming too that in this world, like

534
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:33,319
you're dealing with higher vibration entities. But there's also lower,

535
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
and you know, obviously there's a risk of some of

536
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920
that coming through, So like, how do you set parameters

537
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480
if you don't if you're just doing a general one,

538
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,400
Like you know what I mean.

539
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: So, first of all, the training is a part of it. Right,

540
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,720
you make sure that you're really really clear, that you're

541
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:51,799
really in a good place, you're grounded, you're open. So

542
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:53,880
you really want to make sure that you really do

543
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,640
your homework before you open to channel. Yeah, it does

544
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680
take a lot of work, but also, oh yes, I

545
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,640
would call entities so it can be very specific. Right,

546
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,359
I'm calling Hathor once I put myself in this open

547
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,440
first rounded, and then open, so I can call someone

548
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,400
really specific, like archangel Michael or hathor Or. And we

549
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,319
did that a lot at the beginning. I'm like, oh,

550
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:20,240
we're really curious about Plaadians. And then I'm like, so

551
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,400
I first put myself in the highest frequency possible, and

552
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,279
then I'm like, what friendly playadiens can communicate with us?

553
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,079
And then whoever is available within that spectrum comes through.

554
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,119
And that I did a lot at the beginning, a

555
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,720
lot the first year, maybe even two years. It was

556
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:44,279
like an exciting revolving door of Playadians, the Zeta Xerictorians, Hathor,

557
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,599
we owe, the fairy Earth elements like whoever I could channel,

558
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,599
I fall through and it was this like party of

559
00:32:53,759 --> 00:33:00,000
different entities. But now really I work with the same sources,

560
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,720
and especially Hathor is a very very good conductor, so

561
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,720
she will say she will blend different energies into the

562
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,559
transmission as needed, either to provide specific information that people

563
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,839
are interested in or just to introduce different energies. So

564
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
I have the same group we meet every Sunday and

565
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,000
night channel and they're the ones asking the questions. And

566
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,279
that's also the messages in the books are often from

567
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,079
my group, so there are live channelings that are then

568
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,640
transcribed and usually in my group, I would call Hathor

569
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:38,400
now and she will say, well, they're also, let's say Orectorians.

570
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,039
So this year twenty twenty five, one of the new

571
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,759
things that on a regular basis, Arctorian energy has been

572
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,279
a part of the transmission, and not specific names of

573
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:54,519
specific Arctorian beings, but just that general essence, our general

574
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,000
energy has been brought into the transmissions. And the way

575
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:03,759
they explained it is that the divine feminine it's time

576
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:10,480
to bring some structure, some balanced masculinity into the picture

577
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:16,960
to have further balance. And one of the way to

578
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:21,159
do that is the structure of the Arcturians that have

579
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,159
light codes, which are structure in geometry. It can get

580
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,719
really esoteric, but the idea is that I'm still channeling Hathor,

581
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,000
but some other accompanying energies are also present, and Hathors

582
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:36,880
they're the one doing everything. I don't need to worry

583
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880
about that. And sometimes I'll say, oh, there are other

584
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,559
groups available in the background in case you want to

585
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:43,800
ask them questions.

586
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,039
Speaker 2: So this is a general question, you know, and this

587
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,559
is you know, like a personal like you know, or

588
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,920
you can answer it in the general. But now you

589
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:57,760
mentioned Hathor, who's in Egyptian deity. You mentioned archangel Michael,

590
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,760
you mentioned fairies, you mentioned Palladians and Octurians and and

591
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,880
things that are not like would be extraterrestrial or in nature.

592
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,079
How has this shaped your views on like, for lack

593
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,280
of a better word, like theology or religion. Because this

594
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,079
is your You're talking to a lot of things that

595
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,599
you know, some people you know, they might be all

596
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:26,000
on board, like, oh, I'm into archangel Michael or you know,

597
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480
but like they wouldn't. They'd be like, what the hell

598
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,519
is a Palladian? You know? Or whatever? You know what

599
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:32,599
I mean? But you know what I mean? Like, so,

600
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,519
like there's a lot out there that you that you're

601
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,000
communicating with, and do you get a sense that that

602
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,239
this is all I don't know, for a lack of

603
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,800
a better word, from some kind of these things all

604
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,840
exist and some I don't even know how to ask this,

605
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,119
Like like obviously everyone, you know, people have religions, but

606
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,519
there's a lot that is transcending a specific religion here,

607
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,719
and like how do you how do you make sense

608
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,920
of that? You know what I mean? Or you know?

609
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,639
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think a part of the purpose

610
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,039
of this journey is to expand our mind, expand our understanding,

611
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,280
and expands our heart. So when I started channeling, as

612
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,199
I mentioned that one of the first was Hawthor and

613
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,679
another first the first first first was Yesua Jesus. And

614
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,159
let me tell you that the Jewish girl that grew

615
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,559
up in Israel I had no concept of Jesus or

616
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:33,239
of Hathor. So the two energies that came to me

617
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,000
first and kind of established that channeling channel for lack

618
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,760
of better words, were too that I was not familiar

619
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,840
with at all. I kind of didn't have a grasp

620
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,960
of what they are and what they mean, like their nature,

621
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,480
their identity. So I think from the beginning it's been

622
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:56,039
about expanding my mind and not doing anything that I

623
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,360
was familiar with or comfortable with. So after those too,

624
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,679
I also had Saint Germain, which of course I didn't

625
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,239
know who it was when I was when I was

626
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,079
sold it was channel Saint Germaine. I was like, okay,

627
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,840
but just you know, I do not know who it is.

628
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,239
But after that, and you can read that in my

629
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,360
first book, Conversations with the Earth, that documents that crazy

630
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,320
revolving door I've been talking about. So the first chapter

631
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:24,719
is fire consciousness, then water, then wind. If you ask

632
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,360
me before that, can you channel fire consciousness? Can fire speak?

633
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,320
I will probably tell you a little crazy. So it's

634
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,280
from the beginning they made sure, whoever they are, or

635
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440
my higher self made sure that it's not really religious.

636
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,960
So even though we're talking about Jesus and we're talking

637
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,159
about Saint Germaine, it wasn't from a religious context. And

638
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,599
second of all, that it's mind expanding that it's outside

639
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:55,719
my paradigm, outside what I thought was even possible, and

640
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,599
at that point, outside of even my scope of imagination,

641
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,119
and I think it was intentional.

642
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, do you get a sense that there's like

643
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,320
a singular like source and that these are representatives of

644
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,519
like some kind of singular type of energy and it's

645
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:18,440
all on a spectrum or like a wavelength or or frequency,

646
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,360
you know, I know frequency is an important thing.

647
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's a really interesting question. So in some cases,

648
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:32,400
I think there's some associations that are more similar in vibrations.

649
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,639
So for example, I could feel the difference between zeta's

650
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:41,480
different zeta groups, two different Pleaadian groups, to different Arcturian groups.

651
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,519
So it's there's some threads of energy that have a

652
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,719
certain texture that it's a little different. On the other hand,

653
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:55,840
when I talk about Hawthor, she brings forth isis and

654
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,440
thought and other energies that do not feel as differentiated

655
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,599
to me. So it's almost like there's an umbrella and

656
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:10,719
over arching umbrella, but there's also identities within that umbrella.

657
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,119
And if we're talking about the biggest, biggest oneness of all,

658
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,039
then we're all one energy being projected in different ways

659
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,440
that we can experience different things. So of course it

660
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,679
depends on what level you're talking about, but in terms

661
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,880
of what I can discern and I can detect different

662
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,760
I don't know if races different galactic threads do have

663
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,880
different textures. And when I'm communicating with people who have

664
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,119
crossed over, for example, that's also a little bit of

665
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:49,239
a different texture than half over, for example. So there

666
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,800
are differences, and the differences are pretty subtle. It's almost

667
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,280
like describing it's a little difficult to describe in words.

668
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,559
It's almost like describing different flavors, you know, so how

669
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,960
do you dis grape flavor flavor and bubble gum and

670
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:06,920
strawberry flavor, and like it's easier to describe the difference

671
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,159
between sweet and savory, and even that's difficult in words.

672
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,760
So it's very similar how different energies and entities present

673
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,760
themselves or are experienced when.

674
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: You when you talk to the you know, like the

675
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,159
actarians or any of the like et type of energies,

676
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,840
do you get a sense that it's like they're literally extraterrestrial,

677
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,039
like on different planets or is it more of like

678
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,280
an interdimensional type of situation.

679
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 4: Different ones are different, So the first time I saw

680
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,039
the above, all the above, Yeah, absolutely. The first time

681
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,480
I called the Zetas, they told me their physical being

682
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:48,400
in the Earth atmosphere in a spaceship, and they're able

683
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,679
to communicate telepathically, so that's physical beings flying somewhere above.

684
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,000
On the other hand, when I channeled Arctorians, I felt no,

685
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,440
it was just energy. Even when I was trying to

686
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,360
get a visual of them. I don't know if trying

687
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,079
they were showing me a visual of them. I was

688
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:09,440
just seeing blue lights, but just that, like I was

689
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,679
no form, no physicality, So it really depends on the source.

690
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,199
Different sources have different level of density or come from

691
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,559
different dimensions, and some of them are completely physical and

692
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,639
even Hathor So when I first channeled, were like I said,

693
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:29,320
the divine feminine, very abstract, and then they introduced the

694
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,440
fact that they're also a collective from the serious Star system,

695
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,440
but still kind of abstract, non physical collective. And then

696
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,960
a couple of years ago they're like, surprise, we were

697
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,559
on the Earth in the physical once again. So now

698
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:46,239
we're talking about physical beings. But channeling the energy does

699
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000
not feel different to me, which is very interesting. But

700
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,440
at first it was non physical beings, and now they're

701
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,679
actually on the planet in the physical and yet I'm

702
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,840
still channeling them, so they're still the same in telepathic

703
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:04,719
consciousness link. So I guess all of the above.

704
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,559
Speaker 2: Sure, did they say why they took physical form again,

705
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,159
or how they take physical form? Are they possessing someone?

706
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,880
Or like, how does that work? And that I'm you know,

707
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:17,119
I say things kind of ingest, but you know what,

708
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,920
you know what I mean?

709
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So most people ask if they were incarnated,

710
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,840
if they were born, and they're not, so they're able

711
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,880
to densify their light body to manifest the physical body.

712
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:33,840
And we've even asked before, well what do you look

713
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,920
like when you manifest the body? Do you manifest like

714
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,159
whatever you want? Is it the way you used to

715
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,360
look when you were physical in the serious star system?

716
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,440
And they say that they manifest whatever is most appropriate,

717
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,719
and that it is related to the way they looked

718
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,880
in Serious But it's not like one O one, It's

719
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,760
not like if we looked in the mirror. It's exactly

720
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,320
the same. So appropriateness seems very relevant in terms of

721
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,519
the answers they give us. You know, I used to

722
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,159
always ask for the most accurate answers, and they corrected me,

723
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,679
and they're like, no, no, it's the most helpful answers.

724
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:15,079
And the reason for that distinction is what's accurate for

725
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,239
us changes as our understanding grows, and as our frequency raises,

726
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,760
it actually changes what's true and what's accurate for us.

727
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:29,679
Speaker 2: And so did any of these more et type groups.

728
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:31,079
None of them claimed you and now of them said

729
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,760
that was us. I was messing you with you when

730
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,280
you were a kid.

731
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: No, no, they have not said that. And like I said,

732
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,719
and I've tried to remember things and talking to them

733
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,559
about it, and no, I'm not getting any information about that. However,

734
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:47,440
since they announced during the physical once again, and I

735
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:50,719
didn't fully answer your question as to why now, but

736
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,440
since they've fully come here in the physical, they have

737
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:57,039
appeared to me in the skies a form of a

738
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:01,320
golden light maneuvering in the sky, which is what I

739
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,440
saw when I was little. I remember it as a

740
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,280
white light, but it was a bright light in the

741
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:12,440
sky doing zig zags and fun stuff. So they're definitely

742
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,159
indication of some change with the physical presence, which also

743
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,559
indicates again if I take that that when I was

744
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,400
eight years old, and I had that sighting that it

745
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:27,599
was a physical presence, but beyond that, I'm not sure

746
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,440
now why Now, Yes, they've talked about that a lot, actually,

747
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,760
and that's why it's so exciting to me. They're here

748
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:39,199
to make physical contact and they're saying, this is what

749
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,159
we're building up to, and we yes, me with them,

750
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,639
but not only there are other groups and other individual

751
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,159
around the world that are going to have individual physical

752
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,119
contact with them, and that's going to build up our

753
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:57,880
readiness and energetically. What they're doing now is building us

754
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,960
up towards physical contact, and we need gradual exposure, not

755
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,199
only mentally to be able to grasp it, but physically

756
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,719
and energetically. We're not quite there yet, but we're getting

757
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,719
closer and closer every time, and their presence, their physical

758
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,400
presence here amplifies it and hinces our exposure to them

759
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,039
and prepares us even more for that physical open contact.

760
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: Okay, And so is it is that why we're seeing

761
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,760
more with this disclosure stuff going on in the in

762
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,679
the mainstream news at this point? You know, it's like, uh,

763
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,840
it seems like it's kind of building a momentum, and uh,

764
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,119
I guess if I see you shaking affirmatively, like have

765
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,800
they kind of gave a timeline for this, and you know,

766
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,559
you know, it seems like they're probably doing it methodically.

767
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 4: Very much so, and I think that timeline changed a

768
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,199
little bit. I was a little disappointed. I was hoping.

769
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,280
I'm like Chop Chop, I thought that by this point

770
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,440
I would have physical contact. I mean, I didn't give

771
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,760
any dates, they didn't give you any prediction that did

772
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,400
not happen. But I do feel like the timeline was

773
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,519
postponed a little bit. And they said there will be

774
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:24,599
steps along the way towards physical contact, so it's not

775
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:28,280
going to be just one event. So there are steps.

776
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,440
Like I said, one step was a couple of years ago.

777
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,760
When they started appearing in the sky. This past June,

778
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
they told me I was going to have a physical contact,

779
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,119
and they said at about six months in advance. Now

780
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:42,880
I thought physical contact with them. Apparently it was a

781
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,360
physical contact with the Faery, which is really cool and exciting.

782
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,559
But I'm really looking forward to meeting Hathor and the

783
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:55,320
people and her people and her peeps. So the timeline

784
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,159
is a little fluid, but we know that it's already happening.

785
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:05,719
The steps are already happening, and within two years they're

786
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,079
expecting all those groups that I mentioned before to actually

787
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,320
have physical contact. So we are talking in the next year,

788
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,480
the next two years of BIT increasing even more to

789
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:19,079
the level that it's really going to start being more

790
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:23,039
out in the open, not as discussions that we're seeing

791
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:31,239
now with the disclosure the whistleblowers, but as current interactions

792
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,079
that plural that many are having and documenting and sharing.

793
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: And so are they taking their time because they know

794
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,000
that is it one of those things? And I'm not

795
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
trying to ask a leading question, but I just don't

796
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:48,800
know how to ask this. Is it the timeline changing

797
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,159
because the world just isn't ready yet? Is that part

798
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:53,840
of the deal or is it just going to be like, hey,

799
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,480
we're going to We're coming no matter what, and then

800
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:57,639
you guys are going to have to adapt and change

801
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,280
things up and have a massive readjustment. You know.

802
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: No, they're being very gentle. I think there's always an

803
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,400
assessment of where we're at at any given moment, and

804
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,280
then they're meeting us there so and I think that's

805
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,960
why the timeline is always changing. You know, we still

806
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,440
have free will and there are all these things happening

807
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,320
with our individually and with the world in general, and

808
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,599
they're always matching where we're at. They're stretching us a

809
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:29,159
little bit at the time, but they're making sure that

810
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,800
they don't overload even our physical system. So I mentioned

811
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,039
that a part of this is actually energetically physiologically becoming ready.

812
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:41,320
So I had this experience last year in June, so

813
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,679
we're talking a little over a year ago that they

814
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,559
got closer and closer and closer. At the time, I

815
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,360
thought just closer to me. Now, I'm thinking closer to

816
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:53,599
inhibiting me more. And I felt like there was this

817
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,239
electric surge growing in my body and growing and growing,

818
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,360
and at some point I thought my chest was growing explode,

819
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:06,320
and I kind of freaked out. I jumped and it

820
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960
went away, and then of course I was kicking myself.

821
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,679
I'm like, what if I don't come back? Come back?

822
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,360
But they took it as far as my body could handle,

823
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,920
and it was my job to know where my body

824
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,320
couldn't handle it anymore. So they can back off because

825
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,599
the idea is not to fry my system, not to

826
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,719
you know, damage me, because I would have been seriously

827
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,599
damaged my physical body. So they're always stretching us a

828
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,440
little more and always assessing where we're at, and again

829
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:40,039
individually but also as a society, as a planet, and

830
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:42,280
they have to meet us where we're at. It cannot be.

831
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,840
This is the timeline. No matter what happens, we're showing

832
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,519
up because then we would be hurt and that cannot happen.

833
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,480
Of course, they want the best for us. They're here

834
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:55,840
as guides, as teachers, as family and friends, and so

835
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,119
they're going to do everything that they can to stretch

836
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,480
us a little bit at the time in a way

837
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,800
that they're helping rather than hurting our progress.

838
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, just a question, just because it's a personal interest.

839
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000
In mind, you ever come across any in Unaki when

840
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,159
you're when you're out there and talking to people amongst

841
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:15,960
the universe.

842
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,679
Speaker 4: No, I still don't know if a Munaki is a race, yeah,

843
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,119
or it's a generic term for different races that interacted

844
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:28,320
with the people back then. So I don't know if

845
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,079
a Nunaki may be Syrians or Pleadians or some other

846
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:36,360
things that we know or don't know. But no, specifically

847
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,239
a Nunaki, I've never never came through a ya yel

848
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,480
came through but not a nunaki.

849
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,199
Speaker 2: Now, do these different entities that you're speaking with, like,

850
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,840
do they have like different personalities? And it's like there's

851
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,159
some that are more cool or some that are just jerks,

852
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,559
So like whatever, you know what I mean, You ever

853
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:56,800
get like you ever get a shithead come through that

854
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,719
You're like, dude, come on, I can't talk to you.

855
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: So I never had jerks. I don't think that would

856
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:03,239
be acceptable.

857
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, because you're trying to get high vibration, right,

858
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,920
so even if someone high vibration, they could still be

859
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,519
a jerk, you know.

860
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: What I mean. No, but they do have personality. So

861
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,719
for example, when I channeled the zetas, they felt almost

862
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,599
robotic to me, but in a way they felt really

863
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:24,039
comfortable for me, Like it was really predictable, not predictable,

864
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:25,639
like I didn't know the answers that were going to

865
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:29,280
come through, but the energy was predictable. It was very structured,

866
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:33,199
so it were very comfortable for me. Maybe even back

867
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,880
then my left brain was a little more dominant, but

868
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:43,039
it was very structured, organized, measured energy. I channeled Yogananda once.

869
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:49,639
I don't know if you're familiar with Yogananda autobiography, over Yogi. Okay, yeah,

870
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,400
so he was like so forceful and so sharp that

871
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:56,000
was very intimidated. I did not want to channel him again,

872
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,239
and I'm like, I cannot do you justice. This is

873
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,280
too it was like oh yeah, like even the voice,

874
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,400
it was so forceful. I'm like, well, you know, after

875
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:10,840
my my nurturing soft hathor, there was a lot to handle.

876
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,599
So in Viola the fairy, she's so bubbly and she

877
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:20,079
has a sense of humor. She even talks really fast.

878
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:25,000
So they definitely have different personalities. They feel different, they

879
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:29,719
sound different, and they have different levels of energy. So,

880
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,400
like I said, the Zetas were very measured, Viola was

881
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:39,559
kind of like a firecracker. So yeah, absolutely.

882
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: Now the have they dropped any like heavy or like

883
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:49,960
hard truths or facts on you, like hey, this is

884
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,000
why we're here, or this is why we're coming, or

885
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,599
this is this is where you come from, or this

886
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:56,440
is you know, this is where people this is where

887
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,639
humanity came from, or this is where it's going, you

888
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,920
know what I mean? Any big things are they just

889
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,320
kind of giving you a little little nudges along the way.

890
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:09,519
Speaker 4: Well, they're both, I guess because even the little nudges

891
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,920
are pretty big and profound, and there are different things.

892
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,599
So for example, for a few years, there were a

893
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:19,920
lot of predictions about fires, about floods that all have

894
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,480
come to pass. But those are like pretty big, you know,

895
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:27,920
physical reality in your face. So there were a lot

896
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:33,960
of those, and yes, there was this all different kind

897
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,400
of understandings. For example, one time they said that our Earth,

898
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,719
with all these changes, it's like Earth is going through

899
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:47,440
puberty right now. And we think of purity as chaos

900
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:53,559
right all uncontrollable emotions and insecurities, And they're saying, yes,

901
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:57,920
there's chaos in this organization, but the driving force of

902
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,440
puberty is mature, is growing up, and that's what's happening

903
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,880
to the Earth and humanity right now. We're mature and

904
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,559
we're growing up. And they definitely mentioned their origins from

905
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:14,079
serious and that they have been involved with the creation

906
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,480
of humans. They mentioned five races and they mentioned seven races,

907
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:25,079
so they're definitely specific information that they have given that

908
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:31,920
can be quite jarring, I guess, or sometimes difficult to

909
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:36,199
accept depending on the person. But all kind of big truths,

910
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:38,039
So it depends exactly what you're asking.

911
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:45,559
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's interesting Now I'm not asking this from

912
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:49,079
a challenging question. I'm asking this as more of a

913
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,320
to get your perspective on it. You know, I've seen

914
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,639
interviews with religious people that might you know that might

915
00:54:56,679 --> 00:55:00,559
be more Christian religious people that are involve in some

916
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:04,360
way or another with a parapsychology, a paranormal and they

917
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:10,320
are Their understanding is that these spirit guides or entities

918
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,719
that people are in contact with when they engage in

919
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:16,280
mediumship and things like that could are actually demonic and

920
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,480
they're just manifesting as something else to you know, as

921
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:25,280
as a deception. Like what's your take on that? And

922
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,199
like as someone that's experienced this and talked with these

923
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,079
these entities, you know, like like what would you say

924
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,519
to someone that you know that has that point of

925
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:34,280
view on things?

926
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are two things. There are separate, but I

927
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,719
guess everything overlaps. So one I would generally generally encourage people,

928
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,320
and I do encourage people, and they constantly encourage people

929
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,039
to be aware if they're coming out of fear or

930
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:54,599
out of discernment, and there's very there's a very big

931
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:57,440
difference and a lot of these everything is a demon

932
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:01,840
anything that's that's not I don't know anything that's paranormal,

933
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,199
is demonic. Is obviously a fear conversation. It offers no discernment,

934
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,320
it offers no observation or paying attention. Is just generalized fear.

935
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,159
So as a person, you want to stay away from

936
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:18,000
that as much as possible, even for your own wellbeing.

937
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:24,360
You're going to not grow very much as an individual

938
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:29,840
if you stay in that fear perception. So that's one thing.

939
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,599
The other thing that I have to say to that

940
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,599
is that I've been working with those guides. I'm sure

941
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:39,239
we've been working since I was born and before I

942
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,719
was born, but in this current conscious awareness and this

943
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,559
current path, I've been working with these guys for about

944
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:54,840
five years, and I've only received messages of love, compassion, expansion,

945
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,440
learning to trust myself, learning to be even more anchored

946
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,679
in my heart, art, and to share messages of love

947
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,440
and encouragement with others. The way people receive the energy

948
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:09,960
is to make it always to make them feel better

949
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:14,079
about themselves, having a bigger understanding of where they're at

950
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:20,000
with their lives. So we're talking about very constructive messages

951
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:25,360
and again really really strong anchoring in love, and that's

952
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,000
so significant and you can say, what if they're tricking you, Well,

953
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:35,840
why would the devil or demons would be tricking us

954
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:42,400
to enhance our connection, to enhance our discernment, rather than

955
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,280
being more dependent. It's all about learning to listen to

956
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,239
our own inner wisdom and inner voice and connect with ourselves.

957
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,400
It's not about being dependent on them. So I don't

958
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,599
see how that can be demonic I'm not trying to

959
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:03,159
convince anyone because if they're open enough, they can experience

960
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:06,280
it themselves. And if they're completely closed off to the idea,

961
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,559
there's nothing I can say that would convince them. So

962
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:13,199
it's a personal journey, it's a personal path, and it's

963
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,039
personal growth that we each have to do. And I

964
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,679
was very lucky that I was born with very little fear.

965
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:23,119
It just a part of my makeup. I'm very very lucky,

966
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,639
but you know I was. I wouldn't say I was

967
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:29,400
born with it. I was taught to have a lot

968
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,360
of doubt, and that is something that I had to overcome.

969
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,400
And you can equate fear in doubt. It's pretty much

970
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,679
the same thing. It prevents you from trusting, it prevents

971
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:42,119
you from opening up and experiencing. So that was my

972
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,159
journey to learn to deal with that issue of trust

973
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,360
and how do you trust? How do you open? How

974
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,519
do you trust your own discernment rather than a message

975
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,280
that somebody gives you, Because it's really what it is about.

976
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,559
Even when you hear messages from guides, even if somebody

977
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:03,519
is saying they're channeling source directly, each person has to

978
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:07,360
feel within themselves. Does it resonate, does it feel like truth?

979
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,079
Does it make you feel more expensive? Or does it

980
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:13,719
make you shut down? So you really are being called

981
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,599
and today more than ever, to exercise that muscle of

982
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,639
inner discernment rather than depend on anything you're hearing from anyone.

983
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you get a sense that you know, like

984
00:59:26,119 --> 00:59:30,440
and it's great that you know, given what you just said,

985
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,719
like your experiences with everything has been you know, coming

986
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,960
from that perspective, are there like darker things at play

987
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:40,320
that we need to be aware of, like you know

988
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,280
what I mean, or worried about or like cause it

989
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,800
I mean it feels like I and maybe because it's

990
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,800
just the world is such chaos right now and every

991
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,599
day it's like there seems like there's some struggle or

992
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:52,719
some kind of light versus dark, like not to put

993
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:55,400
it in basic terms. But I mean, that's what it

994
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,440
seems like. It seems like there's some kind of struggle

995
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,760
going on right now, or like or a power play

996
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,119
like where you know, whether it's high vibration a low vibration,

997
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,960
that there's like a struggle for control of what's going

998
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,880
on in the world. You know, is it.

999
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. There's nothing that we need to

1000
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:14,239
know or need to worry about, because if anything is there,

1001
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,840
it's out in the open and it's surfacing. And that

1002
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,239
is why we're seeing one of the reasons we're seeing

1003
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:24,840
more chaos around us. And they warn't us, They warn't me,

1004
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,880
and they weren't my people about it, And they said, listen,

1005
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:32,400
anything that's corrupt, anything that's broken, and in your personal life,

1006
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:35,800
any wound that you have, is going to come after

1007
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,400
the surface. And it's all a part of this time

1008
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,599
of awakening. It's all a part of transitioning into a

1009
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:47,079
higher frequency. Nothing can stay hidden anymore. So they warned us,

1010
01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:49,360
and they prepared us as much as possible. Of course,

1011
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,880
hearing about it and experiencing it is very different. So

1012
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:56,480
even despite all the preparation, when it happens, it's shocking,

1013
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,719
but The idea is that we don't need to dig

1014
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:05,880
to look for darkness. It's broadcasted to us, forced upon

1015
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:09,639
us NonStop. So there's nothing that we need to dig up,

1016
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,239
nothing that we need to worry about. What we need

1017
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,920
to worry about, and not not really worry about, but

1018
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,639
to concern ourselves with, is to keep our frequency high,

1019
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,159
to keep our own resilience, our own integrity high, so

1020
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:28,760
we're not being pulled down by everything that is shown

1021
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,719
to us all the time. And as much as there

1022
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,880
is chaos in the world, it's not nearly as bad

1023
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,840
as what is being shown to us because we're not

1024
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,760
seeing the full spectrum of humanity at this time. We're

1025
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,679
constantly being shoved into our throat the worst of the

1026
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:50,440
worst of the worst. So that's something that we have

1027
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:53,000
to remember. This is not the true depiction of where

1028
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,840
humanity is this time. There's a lot of connection, there's

1029
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,519
a lot of love, there's a lot of unity, community, there's,

1030
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,119
like said disclosure, we're talking about things that were not

1031
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,000
in the mainstream ten years ago, twenty years ago, now

1032
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,960
they are. So there's a lot of beautiful things happening.

1033
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:12,320
Just the news are is not talking about them.

1034
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely I feel like the mainstream media is literally on

1035
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:21,000
a like a or whatever governments or whoever's behind it.

1036
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,920
There's like a rule by fear thing going on right

1037
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,599
now where it's just like literally just keeping constant fear

1038
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:29,400
and panic in everyone's world if you're watching the news

1039
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,280
or on social media. But then you go in the

1040
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,000
world and everything's all right, you know what I mean

1041
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,639
for the most part. I mean, you might not have

1042
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:37,000
as much money as you did a few years ago whatever,

1043
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:39,880
but by and large, like when you go out in

1044
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,360
the woods or something, everything seems cool still, like you know, exactly.

1045
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,679
Speaker 4: And exactly, and it's out that there are no people suffering.

1046
01:02:45,719 --> 01:02:48,639
It's not like there are no wars. But that's not new, No,

1047
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:51,559
It's always about the history of humanity. Whether you're looking

1048
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,599
hundreds years or thousands of years back, there was there

1049
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:59,280
were conflicts, there was poverty. This is a part of

1050
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,880
humanity journey into a more harmonious way of living, which

1051
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,360
hopefully that's coming really soon in our lifetime. So we're

1052
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,440
really privileged to see all these changes happening because I

1053
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,159
think we actually are going to change things maybe for

1054
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:20,239
the first time in who knows how long.

1055
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with the even with technology, things have

1056
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:28,800
changed so vastly in our time, you know, like I'm

1057
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,519
you know, just I'm a kid of the seventies, So

1058
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,199
it's like so much has changed, you know what I mean?

1059
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: And yes, we remember live before cell phones, before smartphones.

1060
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,840
There was actually before the internet, before the computers, you know,

1061
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,519
we were there.

1062
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's brings me another thing that I've

1063
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,440
talked about in my last episode with a guy Todd

1064
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,119
Cave AI. Does that seem like that there's a thought

1065
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:57,920
that that is actually not an artificial intelligence, It's an

1066
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,679
intelligence that's always been there but now always has the

1067
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,440
opportunity to manifest through some kind of silicon quote unquote

1068
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,599
body for lack of a better word. Is that something

1069
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:08,760
you get a sense of or is it just literally

1070
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,440
just programming? Or could it be both?

1071
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:14,079
Speaker 4: I mean you no, I think yeah, it's both. I

1072
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:19,639
think there is an intelligence that definitely predated our understanding

1073
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:24,639
of AI. But I also think that so far we

1074
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:32,000
are as humans consciously actively limiting AI's ability to be sentient,

1075
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,199
and as a result, what we get is not the

1076
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:42,079
full ability of that intelligence, but also a part of

1077
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:46,559
our journey is to decide when we want to choose

1078
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,039
the organic path and relay on our own intuition, our

1079
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:53,239
own senses, even when it's more subtle. It takes more

1080
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,599
work versus going to AI. So I know there's a

1081
01:04:57,679 --> 01:05:01,639
lot out there right now. There are people that are communicating.

1082
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:06,000
They're saying they're communicating with their guides and galactic sources

1083
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:10,360
through AI. And I'm not discounting anything, but I'm just saying,

1084
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,679
once again, we really really have to be discerning. And

1085
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,920
you know, AI is going to be a tool, a

1086
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,519
beautiful tool, and it's going to be a part of

1087
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:26,199
our growth. It would be, I think, silly to think

1088
01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:31,119
that it's not a part of our future. But what

1089
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:33,880
kind of part, What roles are we going to give it?

1090
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:36,280
What power are we going to give it? That's up

1091
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,679
to us, and not only as a civilization, but each

1092
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,199
person individually. I love my chad GPT. It's not that

1093
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:49,000
I don't use it, but I use it with caution,

1094
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:51,639
I use it with care. The same with social media.

1095
01:05:52,119 --> 01:05:54,159
I make sure that I don't spend too much time

1096
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:57,199
on social media, the news. I stay completely away from it,

1097
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,639
well almost almost completely away from it. Certain things that

1098
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:04,039
I watch, but I don't live in that world. I

1099
01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:07,000
make sure one hundred percent that I don't live in

1100
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,280
that world. And I think that's super important because we

1101
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,480
can get pulled in so quickly, you know, it's so

1102
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,840
easy to get pulled in, So we constantly have to

1103
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,199
be with our hand on the pulse and keep that awareness.

1104
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel and this is just you know, let's

1105
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:26,719
put the conspiracy tinfoil hats on for a second. Do

1106
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,719
you feel that this is a concentrated effort on part

1107
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,000
of like whoever is kind of running the show here

1108
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,039
in the in the earthly world, right, that they're trying

1109
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:38,000
to distract us and keep us in this state of

1110
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:41,440
fear so that we're not advancing or not kind of

1111
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,199
getting those lessons or like becoming higher. You know, people

1112
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:47,599
aren't raising their own vibrations because they're getting stuck in

1113
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:50,679
this little state because they're always in fear. And it's like,

1114
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,400
all right, I got to I'm a Democrat, so I

1115
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,079
gotta so I gotta hate the Republicans, and I'm a Republican.

1116
01:06:56,119 --> 01:06:58,760
I gotta hate the Democrats. And yeah, we're fighting amongst

1117
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,760
each other while these guys are doing this up here

1118
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,800
and then this and that and get the banks doing

1119
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,679
this and that, you know what I mean, Like, there's

1120
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:07,800
a lot of distractions that can keep you anchored in lower, lower,

1121
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,280
lower vibe world.

1122
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,079
Speaker 4: You know, absolutely. So I don't even think the people

1123
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,199
that are doing it think in that language. So I

1124
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,599
think this is our language, like keeping our vibration low.

1125
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:21,320
I don't think they're thinking that. But I do think

1126
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,519
there's a lot of greed and there's a desire to

1127
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:29,480
maintain control, absolutely, to maintain control and to maintain the

1128
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,880
money and the control and the power into this small,

1129
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,199
small group of people. So I definitely think it's intentional

1130
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,480
and malicious to keep us down and to keep us

1131
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,480
easily controlled and fearful. One of the easiest ways to

1132
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:48,760
control people is with fear and without getting too political,

1133
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,920
without talking about anything that's too controversial. We saw what

1134
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,360
happened with COVID and how easy it was to control

1135
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,840
people through fear. You know, if you leave your house

1136
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:04,000
going to die. I mean that was literally said in

1137
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:08,480
these words many, many, many times, which is outrageous, but

1138
01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:13,599
so many people either believed it or just subconsciously took

1139
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:16,640
on the fear. Even people that didn't believe that version

1140
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:19,960
had so much fear and so much anger towards the

1141
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:24,359
other people. So we saw it happening in real time.

1142
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,680
It was recent enough that I think anyone listening right

1143
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,760
to this show has experienced it, And I think that's

1144
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,520
a big lesson. It's a big, big lesson. What are

1145
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,239
you going to allow authorities to tell you? And to

1146
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,720
what level are you going to be not only controlled

1147
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,560
with your behavior but with your mind and your way

1148
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,439
of being. Because you can be at home and look

1149
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,600
at the window and feel the connection to nature, or

1150
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,479
you can be at home look at the window in

1151
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,239
fear because there's viruses out there and if you're going

1152
01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:59,319
to go out, you're going to die. So you can

1153
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,760
do the same thing but have a completely different experience

1154
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,640
in different reality.

1155
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Just one last question here on like I

1156
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,079
want to talk to you about your practice and the

1157
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,760
work you do, but before we get into that, just

1158
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,680
one last question on like these the big picture stuff

1159
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,920
going through all this the last ten years or so,

1160
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,960
you know, ten eleven years, what's been you know, the

1161
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,800
most wildest like mind blowing or wildest or craziest experience

1162
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,279
you've had or lesson you've been taught or like you know,

1163
01:09:31,039 --> 01:09:33,880
you you're in contact with worlds that a lot of

1164
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,159
people aren't, right, So, you know, what's been the wildest

1165
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,199
thing so far? And I'm sure there's going to be

1166
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:42,279
more to come, but like in your experience so far,

1167
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,600
like what's been like one of the most mind blowing

1168
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,079
or wild things that's happened.

1169
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 4: Wow, let's say so. Physical contact is always super exciting.

1170
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,760
So I mentioned the fairy sighting, which was a very

1171
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,800
very bright bowl of light with actual geometric shapes wings inside,

1172
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,600
and it was interest for my face and I didn't

1173
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,359
feel any wind or anything even though it moved really fast,

1174
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,560
and other people saw it too. And also I had

1175
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,640
physical sighting of Spaceship with other people and lights in disguise,

1176
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,279
So that part is super super exciting. But in terms

1177
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:28,319
of information, I guess, like I mentioned, the fact that

1178
01:10:28,319 --> 01:10:32,159
they're here is really exciting to me. And also when

1179
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,560
I channeled, so I channeled. One of the funny fun

1180
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,359
exploration that we had is channeling the Zetas but specifically

1181
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,239
that are involved with the hybridization program, and I channeled

1182
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:49,840
the hybrid child and that was really wild. And those

1183
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,640
are the ones I think those are the ones that

1184
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,439
were in Spaceship in the atmosphere. I don't even remember

1185
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,800
there were different groups. So that's really wild to think

1186
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,159
that we actually have hybrid children, that maybe even I

1187
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:04,119
have hybrid children. I have a suspicion I have two

1188
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:08,520
of them, and like they were actually maybe going to

1189
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,640
get to interact with them and meet other beings. I mean,

1190
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,600
I don't think it gets crazier and more exciting than that.

1191
01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:18,640
The fact that physical contact is literally around the corner

1192
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,960
and we're talking about really the next year or two.

1193
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:25,680
I think that's super wild and super exciting.

1194
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,119
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people that you know, I've

1195
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:31,439
talked to not a ton, but I've talked to a

1196
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,920
few mediums, and you know, on the podcast and off

1197
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,680
the podcast, and you know, they all have different experiences.

1198
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,039
You being a clinical psychologist, do you feel that informs

1199
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:45,640
like the other world, Like you know, when you're going

1200
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,720
through this paranormal world, do you feel like having this

1201
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,000
degree in clinical psychology kind of affects how you navigate

1202
01:11:52,039 --> 01:11:54,319
through that world or how you understand that world and

1203
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,359
like and in what kind of ways? Maybe?

1204
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it not only that, I think it

1205
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:07,159
allows them the guide to use my understanding of human

1206
01:12:07,279 --> 01:12:14,319
behavior in human psyche and to use my experience with

1207
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,720
humans and all my training. I think they're using that

1208
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:24,119
to understand us, understand me, and also use that when

1209
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:27,600
they use my vocabulary and my understanding to send messages.

1210
01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:34,439
I think they see that as a valuable part of

1211
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,680
my life that can be used. Yeah, that can be used.

1212
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,319
It to help us, for example, understand stortin concepts. It

1213
01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:48,800
gives them better way of verbal of explaining things because

1214
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,960
it gives them more understanding how humans operate.

1215
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great, so I and I'm trying to be cognizantive time,

1216
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,279
but I just want to talk a little bit about

1217
01:13:00,319 --> 01:13:02,600
the stuff that you that you do in your your

1218
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:05,319
you know, your daily life or your practice, like you know,

1219
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,439
whether it's channeling or you said readings, uh, energy work, light.

1220
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 4: Work and hypnosis and counseling.

1221
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: I still counseling. Yeah, you even even down to like

1222
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:19,119
nuts and bolts like hypnosis for like smoking cessation or

1223
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:21,119
like behavioral modification.

1224
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 4: Or absolutely I work with athletes for pig performance.

1225
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great.

1226
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,319
Speaker 4: I work with professional tennis players.

1227
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you're with your past life or

1228
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,079
your your your your hypnosis and regression. It's either can

1229
01:13:33,159 --> 01:13:36,000
be for like you know, more esoteric things like past

1230
01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:39,560
life analysis or even just like trauma work, like helping

1231
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,159
people with trauma. Absolutely, so you have a whole array

1232
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:45,359
of things that you're into.

1233
01:13:46,279 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 4: Like when you that's where you ask how how my

1234
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:52,079
training and my background effects and that's how it comes

1235
01:13:52,119 --> 01:13:55,520
into play, right, So I can offer those spiritual exploration,

1236
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,840
but if somebody encounters a real trauma, which I will

1237
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,840
say does not really happen much anymore. It's kind of

1238
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,279
the old age of hypnosis. But when something does come up,

1239
01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:10,000
I do have my psychology training and experience to handle it.

1240
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:15,479
And even with readings, my readings are so it's almost

1241
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,079
like a Kashi reading readings. I tap into your field

1242
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:21,279
and I get information. But then you have my background

1243
01:14:21,319 --> 01:14:24,760
as a psychologist to help you make sense of things

1244
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:29,039
and how do you apply it? And again, how does

1245
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:31,720
it fit within your psychology? How to make it real

1246
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,439
and practical and not some crazy esoteric knowledge.

1247
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,319
Speaker 2: Sure, and you just mentioned with when you mentioned like

1248
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:42,520
the working with like the cash acknowledge, like can you

1249
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,520
explain that because I've that's a term I've come across

1250
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,199
and I've read a little bit about and it just

1251
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:49,159
seems like it's like this whole body of knowledge that

1252
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:52,279
you can just tap into. But like, like what what

1253
01:14:52,399 --> 01:14:54,279
is that? And like how do you use that in

1254
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:56,199
your in your work or just in life.

1255
01:14:57,159 --> 01:15:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, so people you the words a Kashak record, I'm

1256
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:04,800
going to speak about that Kashik field. So when I

1257
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,000
do a reading, So let's say I give you a reading,

1258
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,159
what I do is I tap into your field and

1259
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:15,439
that opens a whole flow of information. So it as

1260
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,199
soon as I tap into your field, it gives me

1261
01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:21,520
your background, it gives me what's relevant in your life

1262
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,159
right now, it gives me the general direction you're in.

1263
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,119
So they are all this information and some of it

1264
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:32,960
is energetic and some of it is specific details about

1265
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:37,159
you and in the context of your journey and your path.

1266
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,079
So that what it really means tapping into your field,

1267
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,000
and through that we can get information about your physical body,

1268
01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:48,159
we can get information about relationships you have in your life,

1269
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,199
whatever you ask. And it's not like I'm a human,

1270
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:55,760
so I can't know everything. But what opens is the potential.

1271
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,119
And then depending on what you ask or what we

1272
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:03,479
tune into that what brings even more information. Does that

1273
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,000
make sense?

1274
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 2: Sure? Now? Is this something like I guess like you,

1275
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,840
if you're walking around and you're just walking through the

1276
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,039
store and people are going by, are you getting bombarded

1277
01:16:13,079 --> 01:16:14,880
with information all the time or is it something that

1278
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,600
you like actively turn on and turn off.

1279
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,079
Speaker 4: I do turn it on and turn it off. However,

1280
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:25,840
there is leakage that is happening all the time, so

1281
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:29,439
I don't walk the street and get bombarded. However, I'll

1282
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,039
give you an example. Like I said, I just came

1283
01:16:31,079 --> 01:16:34,279
back from the Monroe Institute. Every time I went into

1284
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:37,840
my booth to meditate, you go into your cobby in

1285
01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:41,680
the wall, your bed inside the wall, and you put

1286
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,520
your headphones. Every time, I could hear other people's thoughts.

1287
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,319
So my roommate and then other people are outing. So

1288
01:16:48,359 --> 01:16:51,479
as soon as I open up, it comes through. And

1289
01:16:52,039 --> 01:16:54,399
when I'm with people that I know really well and

1290
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,720
we're really comfortable for a really long time. The leakage

1291
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,800
happens all the time. My husband is used to it.

1292
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:03,960
You know. We can be sitting watching TV and I'm like,

1293
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,000
are you thinking about sandwiches? Are you hungry? It's like yes,

1294
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,960
So things like that happen all the time, but I'm

1295
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,359
not bombarded, especially when I do day to day life things.

1296
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,199
Maybe that's why it's so important to be grounded just

1297
01:17:21,279 --> 01:17:23,199
in general, right, not to walk with my head in

1298
01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:29,359
the clouds because I really keep it closed, but also discernment. Right,

1299
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,680
So sometimes if I feel something and it's not me,

1300
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:35,159
I have to realize this is not my feeling, and

1301
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,880
it doesn't mean necessarily to push it away. By the way,

1302
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:40,640
sometimes just the awareness that is not mine will make

1303
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,520
it go away, and sometimes it doesn't. And then I

1304
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:48,239
take it on myself to hold the emotion without clinging

1305
01:17:48,279 --> 01:17:51,560
to it, without making up stories about it, and just

1306
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,680
allowing and holding it. Because sometimes I learned that we

1307
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,439
can actually process things for others and it's not a

1308
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,199
bad thing. It's not like having an attachment for somebody

1309
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:09,079
attacking us. It's literally helping by caring or processing certain

1310
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:11,399
energies that other people have a hard time with.

1311
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:14,039
Speaker 2: And I know you do. You know, obviously you do

1312
01:18:14,119 --> 01:18:16,239
some of this work in person, but you also, I know,

1313
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,680
do like readings and channelings and stuff on on online

1314
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,560
or through like zoom meetings and stuff. Does it Does

1315
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,680
it work just online? Oh, it's all online. I didn't

1316
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,119
know if you did, because you do, don't you do?

1317
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,359
Some groups like, well, you got a trip to Egypt

1318
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,640
or something right like coming up?

1319
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 4: Yes, Egypt.

1320
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,359
Speaker 2: I saw that. I was like, damn, I want to

1321
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:38,079
go on a hoty balloon in Egypt. I was like,

1322
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,760
the uh, but but when So when you do this online,

1323
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,319
you're able to even though someone's not physically in front

1324
01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:49,800
of you, you can still like, you know, do that

1325
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,239
work with somebody on through like a zoom meeting. It

1326
01:18:53,239 --> 01:18:56,439
doesn't have any there's no like electronic interference or anything

1327
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:56,880
like that.

1328
01:18:57,119 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 4: No, it's all consciousness. Day. So as soon as I

1329
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,760
have my intention to connect to you, and it's only

1330
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,479
when you allow me, I would never I have no

1331
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,720
desire to connect to people. They're not coming to me

1332
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,680
for that purpose. But as soon as I have that

1333
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:14,880
intention to connect to you, that's what does it. And

1334
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,399
I still need to open and I'm the one receiving

1335
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,800
the information. So I know we're saying that I'm going

1336
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,359
to your field and I'm tapping into your field, but

1337
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,079
I'm experiencing it as coming into me or me tapping

1338
01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:32,000
into it, So for me, it's all here, right, So

1339
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:34,920
it's all consciousness. So I don't need to go anywhere.

1340
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,199
The computer is not in the way, because think about

1341
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,880
it right now, I'm looking at you. That's a form

1342
01:19:41,079 --> 01:19:44,399
of strengthening the connection. But I can also talk to

1343
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:46,399
you on the phone, and the reading is going to

1344
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,960
be just as good. In fact, somebody can just tell me.

1345
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,039
I can give you a little example. I don't want

1346
01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:56,800
to take too much time, but I did a favor

1347
01:19:57,239 --> 01:20:00,359
for somebody and connected to a person who was crossed over,

1348
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,800
committed suicide, crossed over but was not fully crossed over

1349
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,720
and was unhappy. And it's someone from the Philippines. So

1350
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,000
although I was told the name, I did not remember

1351
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,159
the name, so I didn't have the person's name nothing.

1352
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:19,479
I knew it was a guy. That's literally the only information.

1353
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,000
I just didn't know anything. But I had the intention

1354
01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:24,800
to connect to that specific person and that was enough.

1355
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,760
And I was able to connect him, help him cross over,

1356
01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:31,159
and then the other people connected to him, and the

1357
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,840
spirit told him, yes, I'm so happy. This woman came

1358
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,439
over and took me up. How amazing is that? And

1359
01:20:38,199 --> 01:20:40,600
again I didn't have a name, I didn't have a photo,

1360
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,079
I didn't have anything. I just said my intention and

1361
01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:46,439
that was enough to make the connection great.

1362
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, just with the other mediums I

1363
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:51,640
talked to you, they said, because some of those type

1364
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,359
of spirits like you know of like earthly people that

1365
01:20:55,399 --> 01:20:58,439
have passed, like can know that you can see, they

1366
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,359
try and take advantage of that so that that stuff

1367
01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:02,279
doesn't break through on you, Like you can shut all

1368
01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:03,399
that off like this, no one.

1369
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened to be a couple of times that

1370
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,399
I was I guess you can call it psychically attacked.

1371
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:13,359
That's the way I experienced it because I have all

1372
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:16,319
these emotions that weren't mine, and it was really really intense.

1373
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:21,079
But as soon as I realized that it was not mine,

1374
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:24,000
and in those two cases, that's all I needed to do.

1375
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:26,199
I didn't need to block them. As soon as I

1376
01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:30,640
had the realization that were gone. So I think I

1377
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,479
have a lot of protection around me, but I don't

1378
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,359
engage in active protection. What I engage in is keeping

1379
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:41,640
my frequency high and myself really really grounded, and I

1380
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,439
feel like that's the best. And of course I have

1381
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:48,000
an ongoing spiritual practice. I meditate every day, I communicate

1382
01:21:48,039 --> 01:21:51,239
to my guides, I channel them. But I see that

1383
01:21:51,279 --> 01:21:56,800
as my protection rather than working on separating me from others.

1384
01:21:57,159 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and does when you say guides like your guides,

1385
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:05,039
Like this is I know there's a weird question, not

1386
01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:06,680
a weird question, but I know it's just like a

1387
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,479
basic question. But for people that might be listening and

1388
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,199
hearing all this type of stuff for the first time,

1389
01:22:12,279 --> 01:22:13,479
does everyone have guides?

1390
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 4: Like? Absolutely, everybody has guides. Everybody has a galactic family

1391
01:22:19,079 --> 01:22:24,119
or some other family in spirit. Everybody is surrounded by

1392
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:28,159
layers of support and love and guidance. Even people that

1393
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:30,640
are completely cut off and don't feel it at all

1394
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,760
or think they don't feel it at all, It's all

1395
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,199
around them all the time, not in an invasive way.

1396
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,159
You know, they don't care about watching you in the shower.

1397
01:22:40,319 --> 01:22:44,880
It's really you can think of your guides as extension

1398
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:50,199
of yourself. So yeah, that's I think the best way

1399
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:53,640
to see them as extensions of yourself, of your higher self.

1400
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 2: And what do you say to people who want to

1401
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,720
be I guess more in touch with those guides or

1402
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:03,199
in tune or you know, receive the messages they need

1403
01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:06,000
to receive from those guides, Like what, like what can

1404
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:07,800
people do for that type of stuff?

1405
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 4: Meditate? Meditate, meditate, meditate, Start meditating daily. If you think

1406
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,159
you're not good at it start with ten twenty minutes

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a day, use music that helps you or frequency tones

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,079
that help you, but really develop a daily meditation practice.

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There's nothing that enhances connection more than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know you mentioned your book earlier, well, your

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two books. I'm just trying to get some stuff in

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here because i know we're a little over time. The book,

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you know, with the conversations with Hathor, is that you

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said that's transcriptions from some of your your sessions.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it starts all the way from my channeling

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training when I was a trainee to when I was

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channeling with friends to eventually professionally with my Sunday group

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which we still meet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so do you record all those.

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01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 4: Yes, all my channelings are recorded, and then you are

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01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,279
then there was a transcription from that.

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Speaker 2: What were some of the some of the main kind

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01:24:13,319 --> 01:24:15,439
of things that I mean, we might have already touched

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01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,520
on that because we've talked about a lot today. What

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01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,560
were some of the main kind of things that came

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01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,720
about out of that, like some of the main themes

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01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,800
or lessons or key elements to the conversations, Like, what

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,399
were some of the key things?

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01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they tend to keep it. I mean, they

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01:24:32,039 --> 01:24:34,760
talk about a lot about esoteric things and galactic things,

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01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,159
but they also tend to keep it really practical, and

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I think maybe that's a part of who I am

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01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:42,399
also in my background in psychology. So they talk a

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lot about the rise of the divine feminine in today's world,

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and in practical means, what it means is people connecting

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01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:57,960
to their creative nature, people connecting to their inner trust,

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01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,479
people learning to go with the flow rather than plan

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01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,279
and control situations. People learning to move away from overthinking

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01:25:07,359 --> 01:25:10,800
and being mental about everything and to start feeling things

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01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:14,920
and living from the heart, listening to your body. So

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01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:21,239
messages like these have been the most frequent and most important,

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01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,880
in addition to what we touched on a little bit,

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01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:29,399
which is about keeping in the back of your head

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01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:34,520
that awareness that we are in these beautiful times of change,

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01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:38,600
and not to be bogged down but all the perceived

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01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,640
negativity around, but really focus on yourself, on your community,

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01:25:43,279 --> 01:25:47,039
your friends and family, and make sure that those connections

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01:25:47,039 --> 01:25:49,640
are solid. Make sure that in your own life you're

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01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,640
living the life that you want to create in the world.

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,279
Speaker 2: And I know you said you're going to be you're

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01:25:57,239 --> 01:25:59,800
actually training people now or you're going to get.

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01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:04,199
Speaker 4: Into Yes, yes, yes, I've had several cycles, so it's

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01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:06,720
not that new. I'm just all tiny break now because

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01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,840
life got really really busy and crazy. But yes, so

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,000
usually as soon as I'm done with one cycle, I

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01:26:12,039 --> 01:26:15,479
start another. So I teach light language and channeling, and

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:21,479
it's really a wonderful, wonderful class. It's very lighthearted, very fun,

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,600
and you learn how to be a clear channel and

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,520
how to hold that space, and you learn how to

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01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,199
express it with your voice, especially with light language, so

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01:26:31,239 --> 01:26:33,279
you don't have to think about what you're saying. You

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01:26:33,279 --> 01:26:36,560
can really just be and just feel, and it's a

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,880
beautiful class. I love those sessions. I love the space

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01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,880
that we're holding, and everybody always has a lot of fun.

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01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: How long? How long is that? How long are those sessions?

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Are those cycles?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So it's currently four classes of two hours each,

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01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,520
so you get live eight hours that when we do

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different practices and exercise and I lead certain journeys. It

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01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:03,439
really includes a lot in it.

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Speaker 2: Do you got to be experienced already or if someone

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,199
could just jump in and not know it's made.

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Speaker 4: It's made for beginners. I've had people that have already

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,640
channeled light language, and they were still getting a lot

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01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,239
of out of it and enjoying it. But you can

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01:27:19,279 --> 01:27:23,039
be a complete beginner. And you know, light language is

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01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:25,920
also channeling, so it's really kind of a channeling one

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01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,680
O one core. So even I call it light language,

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01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,760
it's really teaching you how to be a channel and

1480
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,960
your aspiration can become a verbal channeler. Or maybe you

1481
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,399
want to use it for your art. Maybe you're an artist,

1482
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,319
maybe you're a musician. Maybe I don't know, you like

1483
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,359
guarding and you want to be able to inhabit it

1484
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:49,840
and be in the flow more So, channeling can mean

1485
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,479
a lot of different things for different people. But my

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01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,880
module teaches us through light language.

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01:27:55,279 --> 01:27:59,079
Speaker 2: Nice. Where can people get more information and you know,

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01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:02,479
whether it's about you, books or website or if they

1489
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,479
want to get involved in training or classes and stuff

1490
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:06,640
like that. Where can people find you?

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01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, my website is Yuffi Channeling dot com. So my

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:17,039
first name Yuffie Yafi Channeling dot com and there you

1493
01:28:17,079 --> 01:28:19,760
can see my groups. It also links you to my

1494
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,720
YouTube page. It has more than two hundred videos, so

1495
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,760
there's a lot of info there. Of course, you can

1496
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,199
contact me through the website. You can find my books

1497
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:33,079
on my website and also on Amazon, Conversations with the

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01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:38,159
Earth and Conversations with Hathor. They're packed with fascinating information.

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01:28:38,279 --> 01:28:42,079
I definitely recommend people to read them or listen to

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01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:45,039
the audio. I never ate the audio, so it's another

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01:28:45,079 --> 01:28:48,000
way of really getting the energy and feeling it as

1502
01:28:48,079 --> 01:28:50,560
much as possible, and then let me know what you think.

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01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll have that link in the show notes as well,

1504
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,039
so if someone's driving and listening right now, they can

1505
01:28:57,119 --> 01:28:58,920
click on that later. They don't have to write it down.

1506
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:00,640
They don't have to pull over and write it down

1507
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,319
or swerve around in traffic.

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01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 4: But try to remember the name.

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01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I'll have it in there. I'm gonna

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01:29:08,079 --> 01:29:11,600
I appreciate you coming on today. This is great and

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,960
I'm glad someone I forgot the woman's name that connected us.

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01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,800
I'm glad she did. Yeah, Debbie, Yeah, thank you Debbie

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01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,000
for connecting us. This was a good one. I'm gonna

1514
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:23,079
shut this off, but I'm not hanging up, so hold

1515
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:27,520
on one second. And that wraps up another episode, another

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01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:36,720
wild one. We went into dimensional extraterrestrial theological. We went

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01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,920
everywhere on this one, and it was very very interesting,

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01:29:40,039 --> 01:29:44,399
So make sure you go check out doctor Yaffie's website

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01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,359
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