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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everone, to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist and

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David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just as

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a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please

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do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. First

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of all, I'd like to apologize for the less than

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reliable audio. I'm without a microphone. It will be back

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to normal next week. So Molly, we're back on basically

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the same story, which I think is one of the

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big story, really huge stories of the last few years,

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the Biden presidential cover up of now not just his

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mental and physical well, not just his mental decline, but cancer.

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So he announced this week, Joe Biden did that he

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had an aggressive stage. You know, he's for prostate cancer.

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I don't think the prognosis is great on something like that,

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especially at his age, but I'm not a doctor. It's

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just what I read. But I think the implications of

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this are is even bigger in many ways. The question,

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of course is how long has he had this? Did

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he know he had a lot of doctors say that

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this sort of cancer at the stage it's at would

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have had to have been years old, maybe a decade old.

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What are your first impressions when you heard?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean everything about this is so interesting to me,

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including the way that we found out that Joe Biden

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has advanced stage four cancer that where the prognosis is

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not great. It came out when on Sunday Night or

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something like that, in the midst of Jake Tapper hawking

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a book about Biden's mental decline and the cover up

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by him, and I didn't really admit that he covered

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it up, but that's the stories about Joe Biden's mental

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decline and how the media were complicit in covering it up.

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And a lot of people assumed that Biden released this

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information as a way to make the conversations about Biden

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be less angry, which I don't think that really worked

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in that people were now had an additional reason to

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be angry. You saw some Democrat operatives saying, with this news,

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we must be very careful on how we talk about Biden.

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A bunch of people were like, no, it seems like

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this news makes it even worse the level of cover up.

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So then more recently they had an anonymous person with

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no name come out and say, oh, actually, this was

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not diagnosed ten years ago. The first we heard of

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it was last Friday, and that's why we released it

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at the time. And people are like having a very

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hard time believing this because of all the other lies

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that the bidenministration topic said about all sorts of things,

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and also because this type of cancer does not just

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spring up on you. It was the other night on

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Special Report, this doctor was on and he was explaining,

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you know, for prostate cancer, it starts in the prostate,

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it spreads to the area around the prostate, and then

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like much later, it goes into the bones, which is

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where the Biden team says the cancer is now. And

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he's just saying, kind of hard to imagine that this

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wasn't years in the making, and also hard for people

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to imagine that someone with the best healthcare in the

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world that would be the president, that they would not

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have flagged this screen for this, found this, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to be fair, it's plausible to some extent

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that he might not have known, because after seventy sometimes

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doctors stopped checking for various reasons, because you know, it's

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more harmful to do things than not for people but

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I already I've seen some media stories, establishment media stories

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framing people who are questioned about who ask questions about this,

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as conspiracy theorists. You would have to be a journalist,

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would have to be incredibly irresponsible or completely lacking not

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to wonder and to ask questions. Everything we have been

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told that was a conspiracy theory about Joe Biden has

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come true in the past five or so years. The

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laptop story was real. The contention that he knew what

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his family is influenced about, his family's influenced peddling business

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was true. He's probably participated and maybe let it. That

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was true. And his physical and mental decline was true.

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So why would we believe that he You know, why

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wouldn't we wonder if he knew about this? We know

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that the cancer has been around a long time. We

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don't know what his doctor checked in for because we

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don't get medical reports from presence. We get summaries and

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they bring in their own doctors and people will be trusted.

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And I think that is fine. You know, you want

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to have your own doctor. But it would be very

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easy to cover up something like this, and there's no

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reason for us to believe that it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: No, that's the exactly, there's no benefit of the doubt

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they're given. One of the consequences of all the lies

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that they've told that we know of and that we

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also suspect, is that them saying that he was not

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diagnosed until Friday. Like you said, it could be true.

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I guess I have a hard time believing that, very

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hard time, And there's nothing about their track record that

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would make me reflexively accept an anonymously sourced claim like that.

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Like one thing that would help would be to have

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his doctor come out and say that, for instance, because

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there would be you know, someone who actually has some

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say on your own. And also if he could explain

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why he wasn't screening for this for a man whose

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family has a serious history of cancer, who's a press

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in the United States, when he himself is an oncologist, Like,

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those are all tough questions, like he might be scared,

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but that's the type of person we need to have

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come out and say stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, liked did Biden tell him not to give him

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the test? Did Biden? You know if he hadn't had

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he had one, it's just you know, you can do

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it with the blood tests you know it works, and

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also you have a this is not just some person

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is the president, but not just the president. He's obviously

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on the decline, and he's going to run for president

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again for another four years. Shouldn't the doctor say, let's

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see if you know you have any cancer. I think

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it's fair to say, I guess that Biden wasn't making

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decisions as president. We don't know now, you know, if

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he was the one, and I think this is a

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fair thing to talk about. If he was the one

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who signed the unprecedented ten year blanket retro you know,

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retroactive pardons for his family and for political allies. What

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if it's his political allies who came up with that idea?

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And I think at least this is one of the

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biggest scandals in American presidential history, and the idea that

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we had a president who was incapable of making decisions

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on foreign policy and domestic policy that affected people in

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really serious ways. I don't think. I guess we could

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go back to Wilson, who's wife who had a stroke,

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and I guess nineteen nineteen and whose wife ran the

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country for fifteen months without him is a scandal. But

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you know it was a different time than it was

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easier to hide things. There's no reason this should have happened.

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The press is responsible. So let me ask you this.

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You know, Jake Tapper was out there this week and

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said the whole media needs to do soul searching about this,

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not the cancer in general, and that even he needs

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to do soul searching, and the conservative media was correct. You.

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I don't know if do you buy it.

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Speaker 2: So I was on a radio show last week where

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they were complimenting me on the Federalists coverage of Biden's

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mental decline, And maybe I mentioned this to you already,

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but I was saying that I'm very proud of our

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coverage of the Kavanaugh rape hoax and the Russia collusion hoax,

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how we responded to COVID hysteria. I'm not particularly proud

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of how we responded to Biden's obvious mental decline because

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we really didn't do anything that one hundred million casual

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observers didn't see, Like we weren't digging deep to reveal

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some hidden thing. We were just commenting on what we

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all saw, and we would just be there to say,

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you're not crazy for thinking that Biden's had declined, and

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that serves a function. But it wasn't like explosive reporting.

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It was just we were using our eyes. So for

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for Jake Tapper to say, oh, there needs to be

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soul search or he keeps on saying I have tremendous humility,

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No he doesn't. He's trying to make a lot of

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money selling a book. Like if he had humility or

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if he were taking responsibility, he of course would quit journalism.

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Of course, like there's no other option. You miss a

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story like that, you don't miss it. By the way,

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we're not stupid. Nobody missed it. He saw what we saw.

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We all saw the same thing. He lied. He lied.

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He's a liar. He lies about a lot of stuff,

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and this is just one of the many examples of

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him lying. There's no humility, there's no accountability. He's you know.

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And then if you put the very possible best construction

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on what he's saying, what he's saying is someone with

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my observational skills should not be in the business of journalism, right,

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So that would be an appropriate response, not selling a

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book to kind of cover it up further. And that's

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what it is. This book is all about saying, Oh,

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so it turns out you're gonna be surprised to learn

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that Joe Biden had some mental decline. And the reason

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why none of us knew. Again, we all knew, we

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all knew. But the reason why none of us knew

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is that there was this small cabal of people close

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to Joe Biden and they conspired to hide it from us.

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It's like again, no, no, Like yes, politicians lie one

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hundred percent of them or something very close to that.

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That's their job. It's the job of the media to

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not regurgitate those lies. That's all Jake Tapper has done

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his entire career. He regurgitates lies that he knows or lies.

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That's not journalism. Sorry for going off on that.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I think that's right. I think we will know.

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We will understand and accept that he has changed and

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others have changed when they actually put themselves out there

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on a story in the future that isn't easy.

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Speaker 2: Wait, like a story that would actually hurt their political party, yeah, or.

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Speaker 1: Put them up against the democratic machine in the last Like, no,

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Joe Byen is useless to Democrats now, it's easy to punch.

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For him to be a punching bag for them. It

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was easy today that the first presidential debate against Donald

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Trump happened in twenty twenty four and everyone turned on him.

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They did it to save the Democratic Party. They didn't

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do it for journalism. So the entire idea that he's

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done something brave or so searching, you know, or is

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doing some so searching, I don't buy it. He's making

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a lot of money. It's almost like and I'm not

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comparing being a soldier to being a journalist, but it's like,

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in a journalistic way, stolen valor, you know. He's like,

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you know, we were writing about I was writing and

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you were writing about this a long time ago, and

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now we don't or at least I don't have any

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kind of access. So they do. They're in the White House.

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you know, on a big network as far as news goes.

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And yet he did nothing. So once he does something,

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once he comes out against a Democrat when it matters,

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when it can hurt them in an election, then I'll

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believe him. And I can pretty sure that that is never.

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Speaker 2: Going to happen, going to exactly, So listen, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're bashing him because he's kind of cashing

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in on it, But it wasn't just him. It was

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everyone every and I'm not this is not an exaggeration.

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It's not virtually every it's every major publication on the

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left or establishment media gaslight us over and over again,

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called us conspiracy theorists when we pointed out that Joe

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Biden was not running the country probably not running the country.

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And again, for the historical record, we should know what happened.

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We should know if he had cancer and if he

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knew it, but we should also know who was making decisions.

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And I think we talked about you know before, but

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no names, no names so far in what we've seen

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from original Sin his book, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, my favorite example of this is that they were

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releasing this like explosive detail about how the Wall Street Journal,

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four years after everybody else noticed, wrote a piece saying, yeah,

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Biden's got some decline issues and it's like a serious thing.

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no joke, We've all noticed, We've noticed it for a

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very very long period of time. But they were vilified

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for their coverage of this. Jake Tapper mocked them, derided

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them as being puppets of Rupert Murdoch and because he

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owns the Wall Street Journal and he would bring on

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Democrats to discount the story. So then he writes with

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Alex Thompson that a different media outlet was going to

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write a similar story, but then someone close to Joe

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Biden yelled at them, and so they decided not to

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do it. And they don't name who the other outlet is.

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They don't name who the other reporters are. There's nothing

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not to write stuff. We all know that that's not news,

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and that's also, by the way, not news for any politician.

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don't follow what Republicans say. But tell and unless they

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named the media outlet and the reporters involved, it's not

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Speaker 1: You know. I took a quick, quick dip into the

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book which came out this week, and I haven't read

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the whole thing or anything, but there are no names,

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like all the stories themselves are in a way, as

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you alluded to a cover up operation protecting people who

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were involved, we don't know who was involved, but maybe

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in the White aff again one day. Shouldn't we know

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that they did this? This is a this is a

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were their laws broken? Right? Were their laws broken? But

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also I noticed something that was interesting and there was

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a outtake somewhere about this. But there is an incident

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they can I say this. They try to kind of

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take Democrats and show that show that they had acted well.

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and there's an incident where he tried this is after

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the first debate, so like everyone knew it was over anyway,

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so that they make shapirat to be this hero that

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he really isn't. But whatever. Joe Biden asks him, how

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do you think things are going? And he tries to

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tell Joe Biden things are going very poorly, right, he

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goes and they're not going that well, and he wants

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to tell him more, and Jill Biden whisks stops the

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meeting and whisks Joe away. Remember, by the end of

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the campaign list, I'm not one of those people who

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knows or thinks for sure that Jill Biden was running

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the doctor Jill Biden was running the country anything. Remember

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she sent out pictures of herself prepping for the G

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seven and then she was at a cabinet meeting and

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PolitiFact told us that she's not running the US quote.

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I'm like, are you sure about that? But it was

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obvious that he was. You know that Jill was kind

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of controlling the things that he would hear and see,

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which is is problematic. She's not elected official now. Obviously

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if she was doing it for good reasons, like to

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protect him because things were going you know, his health

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was declined, and that'd be one thing, but then he

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wouldn't have been running in the first place. She would

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have stopped him from running. Last thing I quickly want

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to say on Joe Biden here is that I have

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seen this kind of effort I guess, and I actually

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see it among Republicans now to rationalize and justify Biden's

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role completely in this that he is not blameless. He

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has always been reckless, always been corrupt in a sense.

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He's you know, just a liar, his key, A person

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who can't acknowledge his granddaughter's existence for years is the

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kind of person who would lie about his health to

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be president. I just don't think he is. We should

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whitewash his role in what happened here. Are conscientious, patriotic

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person does not run for president at his age with

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what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Har mean. I think part of what you're seeing happen there, though,

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is that people are trying to say, well, Biden's got

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stage four cancer and mental decline, so don't beat up

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on him. And so I think what other people are saying,

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I'm not really focused on Biden. I'm focused on all

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the people around him who were breaking laws. They're trying

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to say, don't use Biden's illness mental and physical as

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an excuse to not hold people accountable for the greatest

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presidential scandal we've ever seen in this country.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk now, though, about Jeffrey Epstein. Cash Retel came

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out this week and said another FBI officials came out

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and said that actually, yeah, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. That

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created a lot of blowback because there's an expectation, I

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guess among people mostly online, so I assume there in

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the real world as well, that this had to be

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some kind of cover up. I've seen, you know, certain

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types talking about Mosa did it, and other types you

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know this or that, And obviously Epstein was connected to

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a lot of powerful people. I never really thought any differently,

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And to me, this is just kind of welcome in

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a way. Because the JFK files came out, there was

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nothing there soul like we knew forever. Sole Gunman, a

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communist killed jfkrkid Junior Palestinian killed him. Those Epstein files

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that were that embarrassing incident where all the influencers showed

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up with the white asse and got empty Epstein files.

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I mean it was clear to me then that there's

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not going to be anything interesting here. I don't know.

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I never I don't think we've ever talked about Epstein.

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What do you make of all this?

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Speaker 2: Oh man? I have many thoughts and they're all convoluted,

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so bear with me. So first off, I laughed when

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people were angry at Dan Bongino and Cash Ptel for

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saying that they looked at the files and looked like

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he had killed himself, because I said something similar like

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I looked at the files, but I just said something

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similar to that after his death on Fox News, back

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when Tucker Carlson was on air, And I have never

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come close to getting the amount of hate mail I

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got for when I said this. I said something like

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I'd see no evidence that he had not killed himself,

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and people were like, Molly Hemingway, I thought you were smart,

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you are stupid.

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Speaker 1: Really your own research, do your own research.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they just were like, this is this is

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ridiculous of you. Now, I do think that there are

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fishy things surrounding his death. I just think he still

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might have killed himself, meaning yes, it is very weird

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that the cameras at his cell block just happened to

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be out the night that he killed himself, or that

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the guards happened to fall asleep the night that he

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killed himself. That's all weird. And do I think that

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maybe everybody was paid money to have these things happen,

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and that Jeffrey Epstein was induced to kill himself by

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powerful people to protect other people involved in the corruption.

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Very possibly. I just still think he killed himself, or

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I still think there's no evidence that he did not

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kill himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I think people watch

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too many movies, you know, and they think that it's

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just so easy to pull together some kind of conspiracy. Listen,

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what you're saying is somewhat plausible. Obviously was connected to

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a lot of powerful people. But I just don't know

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why people can't accept the fact that sometimes people kill

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themselves who are in trouble.

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Speaker 2: You get those? Do you get those emails from people

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who are like in prison and they're like, I've figured

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out the conspiracy. Do you ever get those?

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Speaker 1: Or no? Yes? Better in the old days, I used

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to get the mail. Have you ever gotten those where

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people write so I get like fifty page letters, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like on yellow legal pad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I've unraveled how my wife framed me for the you

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know whatever, so I have I just kind of file

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all that stuff away into a conspiracy theory folder. And

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I am embarrassed at how many people were alerting me

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to the Epstein situation years before he was arrested, and

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they would just say, there's this dramatic criminal conspiracy involving

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some of the most high level people in the world

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and child sex trafficking, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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and I feel very embarrassed about it. It was hard

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to separate out the real ones from the fake ones,

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and if you don't have time to dig into it,

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you just kind of have to put them all away.

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And there are so many fake ones, but the Epstein

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one was real, and he really was engaged in child

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sex trafficking with powerful people from around the world. And

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I don't think we have come close to understanding exactly

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what was going on there, how he was able to

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get away with so much, And in fact, it bothers me.

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I just want to say, it bothers me that people

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get mad that when he was charged in Florida for

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a few things he did, and they're like, why did

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the federal government not charge him with the full panopoly

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of what he did. But people forget that that was

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the only successful prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein, and he clearly

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was difficult to prosecute and had powerful people and enough

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money for excellent legal representation. But that was the only

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time he was ever held accountable before his day now

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burning in hell.

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Speaker 1: So I assume and know he was a bad guy

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and did some bad stuff, right, but you know, you

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have to we still believe you need to be prosecuted

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and found guilty. I don't know that he did every

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single thing that everyone says about him, like automatically. I

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don't believe that every single person who ever met him

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or knew him or was friendly with him was involved

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in this stuff. Donald Trump was friends with him, so

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now he must have done it, and this one was

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friends with him, and Woody Allen was friend you know whatever, whoever.

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I mean, he knew everyone, like in New York circles

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he was. He was a powerful, successful guy, and he

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probably met a lot of people who didn't participate in

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the kind of illegality. I just think it's we've gone,

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We've gotten to the place with him, because we'll never

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we may never know exactly the extent of what he

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did that we just assume anyone who ever met him

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is sort of guilty. I've just noticed this thing, so

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I don't know the full extent of I never have

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taken a deep dive. I find stuff like that creepy.

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I wish it wasn't there. Child. I want to close

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my eyes and just not think about it. But that's

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all I'm saying. I mean, I feel like sometimes I

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see online people get mad at me because I'm like

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aggressively anti conspiratorial, that they buy everything with each of

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these people so on that. I also want to mention that,

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you know, I wrote a book about conspiracy theories, and

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I've heard lately many people say, you know, everything we

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were told was a conspiracy, we turned out conspiracy theory,

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it turned out to be true, And I just don't

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think that's the case. I think we're seeing now that

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most of the things that you thought were conspiracy theories

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were not JFK RFK, Junior, I've seen probably, I don't know.

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I feel now a lot more secure in my anti

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conspiratorial position.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if at this point in time,

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I know that you're a contrarian, but this might not

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be the greatest era to feel confirmed against conspiracy theories

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turning out to be true, because we've had some real

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doozies recently of things that we were told were a

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criminal conspiracy theory that you weren't allowed to even talk

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about that turned out to be true, most notably that

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COVID was not of natural origin in all likelihood, and

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that in all likelihood it escaped from the Wuhan Institute

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of Virology where they were doing gain of function research

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on how to supercharge viruses. And if you said anything

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about that, you were kicked off social media. You were

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kicked out of the marketplace of ideas, off Twitter, off

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of Facebook. It was totally true, and it was not

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allowed to say it. Or if you thought that Democrats

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and a few people at the FBI conspired to frame

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Donald Trump as a Russian age, you were derided as

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a conspiracy theorist, when in fact they there was a conspiracy.

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You were theorizing about it, and you were right. There

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was a cabal of people who were lying in order

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to have political gain. There are so many different examples

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of people being told that things are conspiracy theories and

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then finding out that they are in fact true, and

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this loss of trust in institutions is not great, but

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it's entirely well deserved. Right, Like, the people don't trust

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the powers that be to report news accurately or to

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say things with any kind of like whether it's public

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health or journalists or whatever. It's not great that we've

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lost this trust in institutions, but they earned that loss

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of trust.

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Speaker 1: I think that we have a confusing usage of the

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term conspiracy theory, and it's frustrating for me too. I

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wrote a book about it, and a lot of times

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that we're talking about aren't really conspiracy theories. They're just

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be belying to us. In my view, the Russia collusion

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hopes people who believed that that was the conspiracy theory.

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The conspiracy theory is that Donald Trump was a stooge

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or a Manchurian candidate for Putin. That's the conspiracy theory.

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,079
You diult, Yeah, you debunked that conspiracy theory. The COVID

478
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,319
thing was just an effort, probably were Chinese money to

479
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,759
deflect from the truth and shut people down. I'm not

480
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,839
sure that's a conspiracy theory. I totally agree with you.

481
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240
We don't trust the institutions because they lie to us.

482
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,680
They weaponized the term conspiracy theory to try to make

483
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,039
to gas slightly or try to make you sound like

484
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:41,559
your nuts. That's not to say everything they're talking about

485
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:47,640
is conspiracy theory. The JFK assassination, what people believe happened,

486
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,799
that's a conspiracy between powerful people, a lot of people,

487
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,759
just like the Russia collusion hopes. But I think you did,

488
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:01,880
you and others debunk that rather quickly in historic terms.

489
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,839
Some people still out there probably believe it's true. But

490
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,160
I think with the Internet you get a lot of

491
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,319
conspiracy theorists, a lot of it, it's all over, But

492
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,480
you also have an easier time getting the word out

493
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,200
to debunk certain things as well. So it's kind of

494
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,839
you know, goes both ways. But I don't know. I

495
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,079
guess I was just talking about the big ones. I

496
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,440
think like forty or fifty percent of people. I'm making

497
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,680
that up, but it's some big number. Believe that you

498
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,119
know that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone. That's a

499
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,200
big one, I think, because when it happened, we didn't

500
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,839
have the kind of access that we do now to

501
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,119
people and events, you know what I mean.

502
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, but even that is like to me, Wow,

503
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,759
I'm not a JFK person, JFK killing person. I'm not

504
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,160
read well on it. But I've talked with a lot

505
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,119
of people. I think I've mentioned that I love to

506
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,559
ask people i'm interviewing what would be the one conspiracy

507
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,880
theory they believe in, like the one they most likely

508
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,119
to believe in far and away. The politicians always say

509
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,640
something about JFK that they feel like that was not

510
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,759
fully explained as it was. And I've talked to them

511
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,599
about it, and usually what they're saying is not the

512
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,759
Lee Harvey Oswald. Didn't you know that he wasn't the

513
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,240
person who killed him. But it's usually about who Lee

514
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,319
Harvey Oswald was, what his background was, whether he was

515
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:30,039
kind of an agent of some people, whether we were

516
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,839
using him to try to infiltrate him into Russia, and

517
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,200
whether like how things went with that. They have always

518
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,559
these interesting stories about, you know, tape recordings of him

519
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,039
being in the Mexican embassy. You know, I don't know,

520
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:46,039
I'm not into it, but they're not there. I think

521
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:47,759
we need to make sure that we understand that when

522
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:49,720
they talk about it being a conspiracy theory, it's not

523
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640
necessarily as dramatic as it sounds of like a couple

524
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,680
of powerful people all engaged in an attempt. It could

525
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,279
be just like a handful of people engaged in an attempt

526
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720
to use this person to take someone out.

527
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just recommend jern Ol Posner's Bookcase Closed.

528
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:11,319
He goes through each of these claims and talks about them.

529
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,519
There's other good books on it. I got into it

530
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,799
for a while, but you know, it's a real time side.

531
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,559
You're like, why am I doing this? But I find

532
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,640
it interesting. I don't. I don't. It reminds me of

533
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,559
nine to eleven conspiracies. I don't understand why people been

534
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,240
on al Qaeda said they wanted to do this. They

535
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,519
try others tried to do it before, to take down

536
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,680
the towers. They did it, they took responsibility for it.

537
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
We know the people who were involved all of that,

538
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,039
and yet people are still like, nah, it's got to

539
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,960
be something else. Le Lee Harvey Oswald was a comedy

540
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
He went he lived in the Soviet Union. He tried

541
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,559
to go to Cuba. He went to Mexico to try

542
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:51,279
to get to Cuba.

543
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: He had a lot of connections with the CIA, there's

544
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,839
no need to deny that, right, I am denying that.

545
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was an idiot. He was an idiot, and

546
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,799
the FBI knew he was an idiot. Anyway, Listen, we don't.

547
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,839
Speaker 2: Have to take a deep I think, and that doesn't

548
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,279
that doesn't contradict that you know, when they're when they're

549
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,160
working with people. I think they're frequently working with idiots

550
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,640
or easily controllable people.

551
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I think because of recent events, I want to say this, uh,

552
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,880
with intelligence agencies CIA, starting even with Iraq, but before

553
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,279
then even maybe WAKO, with with kind of internal policing

554
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:32,240
and stuff. People think that these groups are more powerful

555
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:35,920
and more corrupt than they probably probably are, or more

556
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,359
competent than they probably are to pull off things historically

557
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:45,640
in this way. But who knows. Anyway, Well, maybe we'll

558
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,559
have a conspiracy theory episode. We'll take a little deeper dive.

559
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,400
My let's talk about Christie Known for a moment she

560
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,160
was in front of Congress the other day. It's a

561
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:00,759
Democrat was kind of drilling her on the old Haitian thing,

562
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,079
including the Venezuela and gang members and so on, and

563
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,480
asked her to define habeas corpus and she just bungled

564
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
it like it seems to me like she probably didn't

565
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,759
really understand what it was, which is not good. I've

566
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,799
never been a real fan of hers to begin with.

567
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,319
She was kind of if I remember correctly, wasn't like

568
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:26,759
she wasn't she like a total coward on like keeping

569
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,279
boys out of girls sports or something like that when

570
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,720
she was governor. She's just I just think she's in

571
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:33,599
over her head and this is the sort of person

572
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,079
I don't want in the government. I don't know, what

573
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:38,720
do you think of her?

574
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not sure what I think of her. I'm

575
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:49,480
not the biggest fan, mostly dating back to how she Yeah,

576
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,000
she did not handle the effort to put boys in

577
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,480
girls sports, and you know she did not handle that

578
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,319
well or the effort to stop that from happening. She

579
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,400
has a lot of ties to powerful corporate interests in

580
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400
South Dakota that I think affected her in ways that

581
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,079
were not great. But when she was asked about habeas

582
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,319
corpus and she said that it was the means by

583
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:13,400
which you can detain to deport people, I was just surprised, Like,

584
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,920
that's not it's not a total trick question here. I mean,

585
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,759
that's what we're debating right now is how much due

586
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,599
process is afforded to people who are in the country illegally.

587
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,079
It's a really important question, and the Supreme Court has

588
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:32,519
already said that due process is afforded to these people,

589
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
but they haven't really clarified in any way the amount

590
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,640
of due process that should be there. And most Americans

591
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
I think, range from Okay, they're here illegally, so we

592
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,960
just need to make sure we have the right person

593
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,640
and then get them out to On the other hand,

594
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,839
people say we need to run through twelve, fifteen, eighteen

595
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:57,200
years of court processes before we decide to keep these

596
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,640
people here anyway. And the spread between these two things

597
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,440
is massive. But most people think, like, you need to

598
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,880
at least make sure you got the right person and

599
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,639
you didn't like pick up an American citizen or something.

600
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,639
Speaker 1: I hate when people say that illegal aliens don't have

601
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,920
constitutional rights. I hear that every day all the time.

602
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,760
They do have constitutional rights. Everyone has a right to

603
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,679
some level of due process. The question is what level

604
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,400
of due process do illegal immigrants have or not have.

605
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:32,719
That's always been the case, right with the Supreme Court.

606
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:36,440
The idea that everyone gets to have the same court

607
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:38,800
process that a citizen has, you know, and all of

608
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
that is just simply not true. We actually have courts

609
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,039
and a process set up for people who are illegally

610
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,960
to deport them or to let them stay for some reason.

611
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,559
We do that now. We can change that anytime we

612
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,000
want through legislation, right, I mean, if it becomes too

613
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,719
owners for this country or whatever, because people have created.

614
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, if it becomes too onerous. We have

615
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,960
a system where we've had ten million people come in

616
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,440
in just the last few years illegally or staying here illegally,

617
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:13,159
and it's impossible to deport them. It's not an if situation.

618
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,480
It's actually a crisis. And that's why you're seeing fewer

619
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,039
and fewer people support even any due process for these

620
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,000
criminal illegal aliens who are being deported. It's I mean,

621
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,159
I don't know how the country survives this where when

622
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,559
Joe Biden and the people who handle Joe Biden just

623
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,480
open the gates wide open and say come on in,

624
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,119
and then the courts, through this like judicial coup, say oh,

625
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,679
by the way, there's nothing you can really do to

626
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,679
stop it or take care of the problem. I mean

627
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,440
that you cease to be a country when that's the

628
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
general system in play.

629
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: But none of that excuses a highlight level official, cabinet

630
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,280
official not understanding how it works. I think if you're

631
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,159
going to do things like this, you want to have

632
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,519
people who are confident and can explain why and how

633
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:02,719
we're doing things right.

634
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,639
Speaker 2: So, well, it's like what we just talked about, it's

635
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:09,079
important to explain. Okay, yes, of course there's some you know,

636
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:10,519
we want to make sure that they have a right

637
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,559
to say that we've got the wrong person. But that's it,

638
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,280
you know, that's that's the only thing we're going to allow.

639
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,679
Before they're deported, they can just make the case that

640
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,239
they aren't who we think they are. Yeah, if you

641
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,320
don't even understand the particulars, you're not going to make

642
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,159
that case very well.

643
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,039
Speaker 1: I mean, if she believes you can just start going

644
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,000
around imprisoning people without you know that the president can

645
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:36,039
just remove habeas corpus just for I don't even think

646
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,360
she understands it on a high school civic level, So

647
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,480
I think that's problematic.

648
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's worth noting there have been times in

649
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,840
our country's history where we have suspended habeas corpus and

650
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:51,760
war times constitutional Yeah, well, sure, I mean, that's it's

651
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,480
a worthy.

652
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,599
Speaker 1: Twice right twice so Adams and then link in. But

653
00:36:55,679 --> 00:37:00,480
I believe that was also done through legislation, whatever it is.

654
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not I'm not disputing at all that

655
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,400
the Supreme Court has long held that people in the

656
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,760
country illegally do get some due process. I'm not sure

657
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,800
if I agree with the idea that people who are

658
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,199
not citizens of this country are protected by the Constitution,

659
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,719
which is like separate than saying that they shouldn't get

660
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,880
some due process rights. But I'm just saying the Constitution

661
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,719
is for the citizens of the country, I think, and

662
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,239
not for non citizens or people in other countries.

663
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: I guess that's up for I've always found it confusing

664
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,960
in the sense that, Okay, the people tell me that

665
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,599
illegals have constitutional rights, that's fine, they have due process rights. Well,

666
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:47,840
do they have Second Amendment rights? I mean, if they

667
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,280
have First Amendment rights, do they have Second Amendment rights?

668
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,719
Do they have you know, the other individual rights or

669
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,360
in the Constitution or just some of them. I'm fine

670
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,599
with acting humanly towards people, and part of acting humanly

671
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,800
towards people, even those who break the laws that they

672
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,440
do get some sort of due process. So I'm fine

673
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,599
with that. Like, I don't want to send a person

674
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,599
who came in here seasonally to deal with crops into

675
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:12,000
an l Salvadory in prison or whatever. Like, I want

676
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960
to make sure we send people back to the right place,

677
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,320
whatever it is, but I do want to send them out.

678
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,719
It's become very difficult to do that, as you say.

679
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,960
So anyway, I just wanted to talk about her. You

680
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,599
think she kind of is a grand standard, the way

681
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,320
she dresses for the part and goes to like Dantel Salvador.

682
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,159
It's just be a professional, get the job done. It's

683
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:32,519
not a photo shoot. You know.

684
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:39,079
Speaker 2: I saw someone refer to her as Ice Barbie. But

685
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,039
it is also clear that President Trump picked for his

686
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:47,360
cabinet secretaries people who are good on TV or who

687
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,480
look good on TV, who can make the case in

688
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,760
a compelling way publicly. That's why what she said was

689
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,320
such a failure, because her role is to basically communicate

690
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,119
the strategy in a congressional hearing or on television, and

691
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:06,440
her deputy should be the one actually implementing all the

692
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,360
policies in a competent, careful way.

693
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,639
Speaker 1: Rubio was on the other day with Van Holland. He

694
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,840
did a fantastic job pushing back again on this very

695
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,599
issue I believe, and he just always does a good job.

696
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,280
And I think, you know, he has experience he as

697
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,440
a senator and he's just I don't love everything you

698
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,840
know about him as a senator, but I do think

699
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,119
he's perfect for that position in the sense. I mean,

700
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,039
you might not disagree on his policy views sometimes, but you.

701
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: Know, I just have to say, of all the cabinet secretaries,

702
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,280
he has to be the most impressive in terms of

703
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,079
what he's been dealing with and how he's put things forward.

704
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,559
His performance, I hate that word. It sounds like I'm diminishing.

705
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:51,840
What he did against the Democrat senators was amazing. A

706
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,719
lot of people paid attention to his interactions with Chris

707
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,639
van Holland, who disparaged him, and then when Rubio responded,

708
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,039
he talked about how Van Hallen is working to protect

709
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:05,480
these criminal people, like he's like the one you had

710
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,000
a margarita with, which I don't think technically was margarita,

711
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,360
but I thought an even more important exchange between Rubio

712
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,920
and I can't remember which senator it was, and forgive

713
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,559
me was about oh, it was Tim Kaine, my senator.

714
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,000
It was about bringing in the fifty nine africaners, and

715
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,840
my senator was extremely upset about this. He just was

716
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,000
appalled that these people were brought in, and it sounded

717
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,079
like he was saying he was appalled because they were white.

718
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,039
He kept on bringing up race and talking about like

719
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:43,320
black people coming in and why aren't you know? It

720
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,360
was such such a weird thing because it's only fifty

721
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,960
nine people. And Rubio had such excellent responses. I highly

722
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,920
encourage people to go and listen to the clips where

723
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:59,360
he was explaining that our entire immigration policy, including refugee policy,

724
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,599
should be built around what is in our country's interest.

725
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,639
He's like, there are millions of deserving refugees each year,

726
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,480
we cannot possibly bring them all in, and so we

727
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,960
have to think about who is right to bring in.

728
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:17,039
He's like these fifty nine farmers who are checking every

729
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:22,000
box for persecution in South Africa. There's a horrific land

730
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,880
seizing and persecution of white farmers in South Africa. Unfortunately,

731
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,320
he said, you know, these are a really good match.

732
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,480
They will assimilate very easily. And it was so funny,

733
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,239
like I don't know if you used the word assimilate,

734
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,440
but do you remember how we used to understand that

735
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,559
assimilation was an important part of immigration, and now it's

736
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,239
just never talked about or almost viewed as something wrong

737
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,159
if you want people in fact, I remember in college

738
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,000
at the University of Colorado, they would always get very

739
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:54,079
angry at the melting pot symbolism that we used to

740
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,519
use to talk about when you come to America. You

741
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,159
might have your own flavor, but you want to make

742
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,599
a particularly flavorful soup, so you have to think about

743
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,159
like what ingredients go in and then have them work

744
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,159
together in a way that's conducive to the eventual meal.

745
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:11,239
And people are so upset about that, and so they

746
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,920
would say, like, less bad is an analogy of a

747
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,719
chopped salad, where you don't lose yourself in the salad,

748
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,880
you don't melt down. But now it's like we're not

749
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,159
even talking salads. We're talking about just everybody, come in

750
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,480
with your own culture. It doesn't matter what your views are,

751
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:30,480
what your norms are, what anything is. Just come on in,

752
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,480
doesn't matter if you're illegally or illegally, and we're never

753
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:36,119
going to talk about assimilation. And I just loved that

754
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:39,239
Marco Rubio was talking about it and talking about what

755
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,920
serves our country instead of just acting like we're supposed

756
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,639
to let everybody in regardless of how it affects us.

757
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, of course. I mean it is racism

758
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:54,360
against these Africanners who are being thrown out of their

759
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,199
farms and being persecuted in ways that are just as

760
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,360
bad as a lot of people come here. I've seen

761
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,960
people saying the these are the people, you know, these people,

762
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,320
these refugees, were the ones who like inflicted the terror

763
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,960
of apartheid on everyone. Well, we're really going to do

764
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,760
that kind of collective guilt. I don't know what these

765
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,199
people thought, and they weren't. There hasn't been apartheid in

766
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,079
a long time. They did not participate in that. We

767
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,800
can't allow people from places that have some kind of

768
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,119
fascistic government, for instance. We should diversify or immigration a

769
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,000
lot so that we don't get big chunks of the

770
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,119
same kind of people here, because then they're going to

771
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,360
have a harder time assimilating. So why can't we bring

772
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,800
in fifty people from South Africa? And why do why

773
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,199
does it have to be I think that during the

774
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:39,159
Obama and by the years, like the most people came

775
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,440
here were from Islamic countries. Well, I'm sorry if this

776
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,719
offends people. They have a lot of Islamic people with

777
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,880
a lot harder time assimilating and integrating into free societies.

778
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,559
We see that happen in Europe and that's bad for

779
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,400
them and it's bad for us. So if we can

780
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,519
bring people who have a tradition, a Western, traditional understanding

781
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,280
of the world, they're going to assimilate easier. And that's

782
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,920
just how it is. We should bring in more people

783
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,239
like that. I don't know, I find it really ridiculous

784
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,519
how you can be racist. I'm not saying white people

785
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,800
are persecuted, he or anything, but it is you can

786
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,280
freely be racist against white people in this country. I mean,

787
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
you see it all the time, and you know, it's

788
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,519
just accepting.

789
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Like my senator Tim Kaine, who was just livid that

790
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,320
white people would be considered refugees, it was really shocking

791
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,880
to watch it.

792
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they become so identitarian, they think that a white

793
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,800
person can't be oppressed in this world. It's ridiculous. It's

794
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,280
my senator to Unfortunately, all right, you want to talk

795
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,000
about culture, all right, do you want to go first?

796
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:41,000
You want me to go first?

797
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 2: You go?

798
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:48,199
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I did a lot of traveling this weekend

799
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,360
and I drove out to Indiana, and it's a very

800
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,480
boring drive, though I will say I love love West Virginia.

801
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:58,920
It is so beautiful. It's my favorite state. I decided

802
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,199
this time that I would stop in every time I

803
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,000
could and go to the local record store. So I

804
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,639
did that and it was like a funny little adventure

805
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,840
on this kind of you know, twelve hour drive, which

806
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,639
I split up into two days. So I went to

807
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:18,320
record stores. One in the Shenando Valley Stoughton is at

808
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,000
like where Widrow Wilson was born, was went there. Then

809
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,320
I stopped in Charleston, West Virginia, had a very nice

810
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,239
record store there. Then I went up to Columbus, Ohio,

811
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,760
and I have to mention this record store. It's called

812
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Used Kids. I don't know enough about Columbus to tell

813
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,440
you what neighborhood it is it's in. It was one

814
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,519
of the best record stores I've ever been in. Cool.

815
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,119
It had all kinds of weird stuff that I liked,

816
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,079
but it also had mainstream stuff, had a whole jazz

817
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:49,760
section had a whole like, so you know record store

818
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,199
is going to be good when there's like metal rock, indie,

819
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,880
post honk, jazz, blues like it had it all in

820
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,800
all well stocked. So I showed up there. It open

821
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,760
it ten thirty and so I showed up there ten

822
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,920
thirty in the morning and the place was already packed.

823
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,960
Just fantastic place if you're ever in Columbus. Then I

824
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,280
went to Indianapolis and then I went Yeah, I went

825
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,840
to Indianapolis. So I bought like twenty records. I shouldn't

826
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,320
have bought vinyl. New vinyl is so expensive. I just

827
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,679
don't even understand how like a young person can get

828
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,199
into it, Like thirty five forty bucks a record. Have

829
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,559
you noticed that I have? It's insane. And yes, I

830
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,199
spent a lot of my disposable cash on records. I

831
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,320
feel like I should grow up. But anyway, so that's

832
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,079
what I did. Do you want to know some of

833
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,519
the records I got? I do? Or is this going

834
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:43,159
to board people? I found this cool old Jethrotel record.

835
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:43,679
Look at that.

836
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome.

837
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,639
Speaker 1: We'll stand up. Yeah, A soft machine. Have you ever

838
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,679
listened to them? Kind of like a seventies jazz. This

839
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,400
is a weird like prog band from the seventies. Oh yeah,

840
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,519
isn't it kind of funky? Yeah? Kerub Have you ever

841
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,519
heard of them? They're amazing. They were like, uh, not

842
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,480
the Hoople, I.

843
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,599
Speaker 2: Like not the hoopel and one song in particular, but

844
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:12,599
I can't remember what that is right now, so sorry.

845
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:17,159
Speaker 1: And then I got John mcgaughlan, who was kind of

846
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:19,559
like a jet. He was in Maha Vishnu Orchestra. Have

847
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:20,320
you ever heard of that?

848
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I have a lot of their albums.

849
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Then I got two or three more I think Guided

850
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,119
by Voices done this for five dollars?

851
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,599
Speaker 2: Cool? I have that album Red.

852
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,519
Speaker 1: Cross New Rotica. Have you ever heard of this album?

853
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: That at all?

854
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,519
Speaker 1: You would love this album? I who suggests you? You

855
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:37,199
listen to it?

856
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

857
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: And then last but not at least, I got the

858
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,480
first Meat Puppets album, which I've been searching for forever.

859
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: That's so exciting for you.

860
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, super exciting, So thank you. How about you?

861
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember what it was, but I remember

862
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,239
where I was that we recently got an album for

863
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,760
you for next time we see you. Like, I was like, oh,

864
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,280
we have to get that for David, but I can't

865
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,000
remember what it was.

866
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,559
Speaker 1: I told Mark that I have a bunch of albums

867
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:04,559
for you, and guess why, because I have not ever

868
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,360
listed the albums I have and I buy doubles all

869
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,519
the time. So I have XDC albums for you. If

870
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:14,760
you don't have them, I have a bunch of albums coming.

871
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: So so yeah, So we got that in Frederick, which

872
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,400
is a very good town for records.

873
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:23,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a great record store there anything.

874
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Or is it Fredericksburg? I get the two confirmed.

875
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: Frederick has a real Maryland has a really good store.

876
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,679
Speaker 2: Okay, it was Fredericksburg, which has a ton of really

877
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:38,039
good good records. And while I was in so our

878
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,480
kid was playing softball down there, and so we we

879
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:45,760
went and we went to the record stories while we

880
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,199
were waiting for the game to start, and I got

881
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,880
a couple of nine inch Nails records, which you cannot

882
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,840
play around the kids.

883
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,519
Speaker 1: You know. It is weird how much of the music

884
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,320
you can't play around the kids that we listened to,

885
00:48:59,599 --> 00:48:59,840
you know.

886
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then Mark had been somewhere I don't remember

887
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:04,880
where he was, maybe it was in Portland, and he

888
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,159
got smashing Pumpkins Siamese stream. Funny thing was this is like, oh, Henry,

889
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,199
you know. I was in New York and I went

890
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,960
into a record store and was with one of my kids,

891
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,639
and I was like, oh, we should get this for dad.

892
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,360
And then when we both came home from our shared trips,

893
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:27,280
he had already gotten the Siamese stream. Okay. So for

894
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,079
other culture stuff, last night I went to a Five

895
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,280
for Fighting concert at the Birchmere, which is a great

896
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:42,280
venue right by our like our neighborhood basically, and a

897
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,480
bunch of acts come through there that are just great.

898
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,719
And so Five for Fighting is John Andre Sick and

899
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:53,519
he does this tour with like four stringed instruments and

900
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,119
he's just such a great songwriter and it was a

901
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:02,440
really great thing. Also, of interest, Senator Jonie Ernst did

902
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,679
a guest appearance singing on one of the songs. And

903
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,159
also John Roberts, my colleague at Fox News, guested on

904
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:16,159
two songs and he is a really great guitar player

905
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,679
and did a great job and he closed out the

906
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
show and people were losing their minds, so that was great,

907
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,760
and there were a lot of people like sorry, there

908
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,599
were a lot of people like DC people at the

909
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:38,320
show like former National Security Advisor and nominated UN Ambassador

910
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:44,639
Mike Waltz and Jennifer Griffin from Fox News and Hugh

911
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,360
Hewitt and Larry O'Connor, who I love. I mean not

912
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,320
to single him out, because there were many good people there,

913
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,760
but so it's just kind of funny to see all

914
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,119
sorts of people there that we knew too.

915
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: That's nice. I don't know anything about that band, and

916
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,039
I know five for Fighting is it that hockey?

917
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:07,079
Speaker 2: But other than that, yeah, so John Andresik just he

918
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,960
has like a couple like super super hits, including Superman.

919
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,559
But he's just also a really great songwriter and performer,

920
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:15,920
so it's always a good show. This is I think

921
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,920
the third time I've seen him, and he's really good. Okay,

922
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,159
So my other cultural thing is that we saw Gaslight

923
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:26,079
at the request of one of our kids who really

924
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:28,960
wanted to see it. Have you seen this movie? No,

925
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,679
Holy schmolly. It is really great movie that I highly

926
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,480
recommend people watch. You used the term earlier in the

927
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:42,199
show of Gaslighting, right, and so that's where it comes from.

928
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Is this movie, which is Ingrid Bergmann plays a wife

929
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,880
of a man who kind of slowly makes her think

930
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,599
she's crazy, and she gives such an amazing performance, Like

931
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:58,639
I cannot stop thinking about it. And it's set in

932
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:04,639
Victorian England and Italy, and the performances are just great.

933
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,400
And it's like a not a super quick movie. It's

934
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,440
kind of a slow, deliberate movie. But and I also,

935
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,400
I'm gonna say, I think it might be more of

936
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239
a female movie than a male movie, which is not

937
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,000
to say that it isn't an Oscar winning movie for reason,

938
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,519
but it really gets into that way that men have

939
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:28,039
some you know, they have authority in marriages, and how

940
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,880
that can be abused. And I think that's going to

941
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,559
be a message that might be more terrifying to women

942
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:37,000
than to men. But I really enjoyed it, Like, I

943
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:38,280
will definitely watch that again.

944
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Now I've heard of it. I thought you were talking

945
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,960
about some new movies, so it kind of like escaped me.

946
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,960
But yeah, I've never seen it. I will watch it

947
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,280
on your recommendation. Anything else I problem?

948
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, sorry. There was also this great thing which

949
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,320
my church puts on a spring concert series, and we

950
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had that this Saturday and it was just magnificent. So

951
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we so it's my church my church is choir, and

952
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then our like elite choir, which is the back collegium.

953
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And then we also bring in a ton of ringers,

954
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you know, like professional singers who were magnificent. And then

955
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we have people in our church with tremendous musical gifts,

956
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including a harpist and a violinist, and and they're both great.

957
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The violinist is like a young lady and the feeling

958
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:40,440
she has already is just tremendous. But they did selections

959
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from Arvox Part and Talis and Schubert, and oh, it's

960
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so great.

961
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Speaker 1: He's like from some Baltic bodies Estonian I always forgot.

962
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, Oh you know what. Actually it was

963
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a it was a listener to our podcast who wrote

964
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the program notes for this, and they were hilarious and

965
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,320
I wish I had them right now. They're really well done.

966
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But I felt silly that I didn't realize Arvo Part

967
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is still alive.

968
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Speaker 1: Yea, he's old, but he is. I'm such a fan, Yeah,

969
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,199
such a fan that I have a bunch of his records.

970
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Deers Cry and Morning Star were what they performed,

971
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and then from Tallis it was a New Commandment and

972
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if he loved me, and then the Schubert. Oh there's

973
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another Arvo part was the Spiegel m Spiegel, which was

974
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the harp and violinist doing that, and then saw him

975
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twenty three from Schubert and the mass in g Major.

976
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It was truly magnificent. Like I'm just I love that

977
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my church does this once a year and you go

978
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to some churches and the choir, you know, it's great,

979
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but it's like there are people like me, you know,

980
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amateurs who cannot sing that great. But our choir, under

981
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,320
the direction of our canter Stephanie mcconan, is just like

982
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it's amazing, it's so well done.

983
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Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you. You know, we

984
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can probably hear you. You're a little under the weather,

985
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and you did a fantastic job. I just want to

986
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say that. And I also want to mention that this

987
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was believe it or not, our one hundred and fiftieth

988
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,000
episode of Your Wrong Wow. Yeah, not counting you know

989
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the stuff we did before them.

990
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:19,519
Speaker 2: We used to do a podcast under a different name. Yeah,

991
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,599
so wait, this reminds me too. We got an email

992
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:25,880
like this week or last week that was like, why

993
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,559
are you guys always asking for emails. We love our emails.

994
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That's how we that's the only way we can communicate with.

995
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Speaker 1: I don't think you should speak for me. I don't

996
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,000
really love all of that. He still love.

997
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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll get a ton of nice email too.

998
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: I know I love those well. Anyway, if you want

999
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to email us, if you email us is Radio at

1000
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Federalist dot com. We actually read and sometimes talk about them. Obviously,

1001
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,599
Molly is too overwhelmed with work all the time. She

1002
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:56,920
can answer all your emails, and I choose not to

1003
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answer your emails even though I have the time.

1004
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Speaker 2: Can I One thing we got from a listener, this

1005
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,960
amazing coffee, which, by the way, it was supposed to

1006
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,400
be for you and for me, but I think I'm

1007
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,000
just going to be using all of it because it's

1008
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,039
too hard to get it to you.

1009
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to off the coffee.

1010
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Speaker 2: Oh this is so good. So I just wanted to

1011
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,519
mention it because it was just a listener. And remember

1012
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:26,559
when we talked about drinking coffee and how Mark Hemingway

1013
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,519
doesn't drink coffee and stuff like that. So he sent

1014
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:32,079
something in and it's great, and it's Whacker Coffee Company

1015
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:36,800
and it's so yummy, and it's just like really great blend.

1016
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And I got it in Bean for him and it

1017
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,559
was just great. And they have like very sort of

1018
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,000
coated names for the coffee blends, Red Tape e Pluribus Unim,

1019
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,920
some per Vegelunds, and then Wright Country, which was something

1020
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done for a podcast by Brian Dean.

1021
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Speaker 1: Right.

1022
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Speaker 2: Anyway, it was all really good and I just wanted

1023
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to mention it because that was so nice of him

1024
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:02,360
to send it to us. And I'm sorry if I

1025
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don't get.

1026
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Speaker 1: It to you, maybe I'll just order Ferguson for myself.

1027
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, great, that's it.

1028
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, nice seeing you, Molly, and we'll

1029
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see everyone next week. Until then, be lovers of freedom

1030
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and anxious for the friend