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<v Speaker 1>Let's say good morning to ABC's tech reporter. It's Mike Debusky.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Mike, Good morning, Amy. How are you good.

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<v Speaker 1>So Meta is making moves to make itself really really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. So Meta is investing in what's called a

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<v Speaker 2>super intelligence lab, and they are making this major investment,

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<v Speaker 2>more than fourteen billion dollars in this company called Scale Ai,

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<v Speaker 2>in order to do that. So what Scale Ai is

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<v Speaker 2>is they are a human verified AI research firm. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>they're a picks and shovels company. They're a company that

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<v Speaker 2>gives the larger large language models, right the Googles and

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<v Speaker 2>the Open Ayes of the world, the material they need

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<v Speaker 2>to train their chatbots and AI systems. So they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of behind the scenes, but they're really important in the

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<v Speaker 2>AI space. Meta is making a more than fourteen billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar investment in this company. They are making a forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent acquisition stake in this company, and they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>their CEO in the process, a guy named Alexander or Wang,

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<v Speaker 2>to head up this new super intelligence lab with the

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<v Speaker 2>goal of creating technology that they say will be smarter

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<v Speaker 2>than the human brain, that will go beyond the capabilities

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<v Speaker 2>of what we can do as humans and usher in

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<v Speaker 2>this new era of technology. Amy I can already tell

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<v Speaker 2>that your eyebrow is raising. But there is reason to

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<v Speaker 2>be skeptical here. But that is what they say they

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<v Speaker 2>are doing, and Meta seems very committed to the idea

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<v Speaker 2>because fourteen billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Mike is is it to catch up to

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<v Speaker 1>like open AI or is it to go beyond them both?

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially? So Meta has found itself sort of behind in

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<v Speaker 2>the AI race right. Their large latest large language model,

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<v Speaker 2>it's known as LAMA four, kind of you know, failed

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<v Speaker 2>to meet expectations. It doesn't do quite as well on

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<v Speaker 2>some of the tests that we subject these large language

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<v Speaker 2>models to. And open AI and and some others out

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<v Speaker 2>there anthropic Google are kind of at the head of

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<v Speaker 2>this and Meta doesn't want to be left behind because

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<v Speaker 2>they see this as again kind of the next turn

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<v Speaker 2>of the screw, the next evolution in the world of technology,

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<v Speaker 2>and they think that scale AI are the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>guys to help do this. So that is part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There are again some reasons to be skeptical of this

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a superintelligence that's gonna, you know, change our

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<v Speaker 2>lives and let us all go on vacation and have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, computers handle things. For example, Apple recently put

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<v Speaker 2>out a reportant Apple itself is very much in the

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<v Speaker 2>AI race that found that the current cutting edge of

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<v Speaker 2>large language models, known as large reasoning models, have quote

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<v Speaker 2>fundamental limitations, that they're not quite as smart as we

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<v Speaker 2>think they are, that they're not really reasoning in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that our human brains do. Reports from Arizona State

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<v Speaker 2>University and others sort of back that claim up. Even still,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a hot topic in Silicon Valley, with Sam Altman,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the CEO of Open Ai, telling President Trump recently

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<v Speaker 2>that they are going to achieve this super intelligent computer

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<v Speaker 2>that matches or surpasses the capabilities of the human brain

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of his term. Dario Amiday, who's the

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<v Speaker 2>head of Anthropics, said that we could see major disruptions

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<v Speaker 2>from this type of technology in the next two to

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<v Speaker 2>three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's exciting and scary al at the same time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so cool job. Yeah, let's talk about this big, beautiful phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So on Monday here in New York City, the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump Organization announced that they are making a major move

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<v Speaker 2>into the world of telecom. They are announcing Trump Mobile,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what's known as an mv and O, a

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<v Speaker 2>mobile virtual network operator, which is essentially a small cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone provider that kind of piggybacks off the networks of

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<v Speaker 2>the larger providers. So it's like Mint Mobile, It's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>like Minmobile. These two companies are going to compete with

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<v Speaker 2>one another. Cricket Wireless is another one that is in

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<v Speaker 2>this space. And as part of this, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they say Trump Mobile will work with pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>any modern smartphone, they are launching their own proprietary device.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the T one. Technically its full name is

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<v Speaker 2>the T one eight thousand and two Gold version, and

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<v Speaker 2>that name is not a missedover. It is gold. It

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<v Speaker 2>is true in gold leaf for or some sort of gold.

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<v Speaker 1>Effect, and it seems to be if it's tied to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of course. And it has a big T on

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<v Speaker 2>the back and an American flag as you would expect,

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<v Speaker 2>and it appears to be a pretty standard Android device.

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<v Speaker 2>They are saying that this is going to go for

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<v Speaker 2>about five hundred dollars and that you know, runs Android fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It has a six point eight inch screen, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty hertz for fresh rate, what you would kind

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<v Speaker 2>of expect from a phone at that price point in

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<v Speaker 2>the Android ecosystem. But once you dive a little deeper

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<v Speaker 2>into the specs that we have on the website, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty much all we have on this phone, no

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<v Speaker 2>one's really gotten a chance to play around with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets a little confusing. Under the storage section, they

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<v Speaker 2>say that it has twelve gigabytes of RAM, and RAM

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<v Speaker 2>and storage are two different things. There's no information about

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<v Speaker 2>a processor, and a processor is pretty important to the

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<v Speaker 2>world of smartphones, and up until recently on the website

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<v Speaker 2>they claimed it had a five thousand millionamp hour camera,

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<v Speaker 2>but milliamp hours are used to describe batteries, so there

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<v Speaker 2>were some typos on the website, it seems like. And

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<v Speaker 2>the photo that they have, again the only photo that

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<v Speaker 2>we have of this device, appears to be a rendering,

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<v Speaker 2>a computer generated image, or some sort of photoshopped deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it has three camera array it looks sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like an iPhone trimmed in gold. But there's no flash

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<v Speaker 2>on that camera array, which is what you would expect

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<v Speaker 2>to see on something like that. So maybe reason for

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<v Speaker 2>pause if you're thinking about purchasing a t one, but

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<v Speaker 2>you still can put down one hundred dollars deposit. If

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<v Speaker 2>none of that is enough to dissuade you, do we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Any idea of a timeframe, like when they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>launch the service and start selling the phones.

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<v Speaker 2>So on the website it says coming soon. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>other reporting out there that says that it could be

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the fall. But a real wrench in

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<v Speaker 2>all this amy is that the Trump organization says they

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<v Speaker 2>plan to build this phone in the United States. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no major smartphone that is built in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't really have an infrastructure to do it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that would mean that, you know, if they are serious

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<v Speaker 2>about this, they would have to spin up a factory,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have to hire workers, they would have to

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<v Speaker 2>train workers don't train workers to build smartphones here, set

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<v Speaker 2>up supply chains and suppliers and what have you. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be really a monumental task that we have not

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<v Speaker 2>seen undertaken in the United States, and at five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>that is I think a big reason for skepticism because,

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<v Speaker 2>especially within that timeframe, that's that's that's kind of unrealistic.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is possible that they're going to import a

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<v Speaker 2>phone from elsewhere, but also that would run counter to

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump organizations kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of made in America thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Attempt to get yeah, manufacturing back to America. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just have to wait and see

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ABC's tech reporter Mike Debuski, thanks so much,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Amy take he
